Tuesday, 2017-06-06

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masahitohi all. time for blazar team meeting.09:00
masahito#startmeeting blazar09:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  6 09:00:59 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:01
masahito#topic RollCall09:01
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hiro-kobayashio/09:01
hritoo/09:01
tejaswio/09:01
masahitohi hiro-kobayashi, hrito, tejaswi09:01
masahitotoday's agenda is09:02
masahito1. gate failure09:02
masahito2. instance reservation09:02
masahito3. next weekly meeting09:02
masahito4. AOB09:02
masahitoanything else?09:02
priteauo/09:02
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masahitohello, priteau09:02
priteaumasahito: Big Tent?09:02
masahito#chair hiro-kobayashi priteau09:03
openstackCurrent chairs: hiro-kobayashi masahito priteau09:03
masahitopriteau: right.09:03
masahito4. BigTent09:03
masahitolet's move on to first item.09:03
masahito#topic gate failure09:03
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masahitoThe gate failure in tempest tests appears again.09:04
masahitoThe log of blazar-a shows oslo.messaging fails to send a message to blazar-manager.09:05
masahitohttp://logs.openstack.org/64/467064/6/gate/gate-blazar-devstack-dsvm/97b6df3/logs/screen-blazar-a.txt.gz#_Jun_05_19_13_57_99625509:05
priteauCould it be a regression from a requirements lib?09:06
masahitoThis issue seemed to be fixed last week, but show up again.09:06
priteauI don't think we have changed anything related to messaging recently09:06
masahitopriteau: maybe09:06
hiro-kobayashiI guess that's caused by the update of oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470975/09:07
hiro-kobayashiBut I'm not sure the root cause09:08
masahitoif the change is a root cause, we can check it by reverting the requirements.txt.09:08
priteauThere was a blacklist added for 5.25.0: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469539/09:08
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masahitos/reverting/revicing/09:08
priteauBut gate fails even with this blacklist: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470084/809:09
masahitoanother package could have upper constraints with 5.25.0.09:10
masahitoif so, it hits the bug.09:10
masahitowe should add !=5.25.0 to our requirements.txt to avoid the error.09:12
masahitodoes it make sense?09:12
hiro-kobayashiAnd 5.26, maybe09:12
masahitoright.09:13
priteaumasahito: that's what is proposed by the bot: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470084/8/requirements.txt09:13
priteaumaybe 5.26 is buggy too but hasn't been noticed?09:13
priteauwe can try a WIP patch forcing oslo.messaging to an older version09:14
hiro-kobayashiI think it hasn't09:14
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masahitoaccording to the commit message, we can avoid the bug with config in devstack.09:16
masahitohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/469539/09:16
masahitoanyway, check the result of the patch hiro-kobayashi is pushing now. Then if it works, we can do quick fix.09:17
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masahitos/do quick fix/apply the fix/09:17
hiro-kobayashiI pushed the patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471177/509:17
hiro-kobayashiI'm sorry but it also contains another changes. But I think they doesn't effect the result09:18
priteauWhat are the non-requirements changes for?09:18
hiro-kobayashiThey are the remains of my investigation09:19
masahitoi think it's different change he is working on now.09:19
priteauOK, I'll ignore :-)09:20
hiro-kobayashithanks09:20
priteauLet's see what happens with the gate then09:20
masahitolet's jump on next :-)09:21
masahito#topic instance reservation09:21
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masahitoI saw some of patches related to instance reservation has CR+2 and WR+109:22
masahitohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/467064/09:22
masahitobut spec of the feature is still in review status. so the above patch will wait the spec is merged.09:23
masahitospec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459533/09:23
priteauShould I remove my W+1?09:23
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masahitoor add CR+2 and/or W+1 to spec :-)09:24
priteauNeed to review still :-)09:24
masahitozuul handles the dependency. so you don't need to remove W+1.09:24
priteauI don't see a way to remove it anyway09:24
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priteauI just happened to see this patch in my inbox and it was a quick one to review09:25
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masahitogot it.09:26
masahitopriteau: please review the spec.09:26
priteauOK09:26
masahitoany comments about instance reservation?09:27
masahitoif nothing, move on to next.09:27
masahito#topic next weekly meeting09:28
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masahitohiro-kobayashi and me will attend OPNFV summit next week. So we can't chair the meeting.09:29
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priteauAnd Gerald is on vacation09:30
masahitoDoes it make sense to skip next meeting? or we'll have the meeting?09:30
masahitopriteau: right.09:30
priteauMaybe skip due to few people attending?09:30
masahitoIn other words, who can join next week?09:30
hritoI can. but I dont have any topic09:31
priteauI can too09:31
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priteauSo maybe skip if it's just the two of us?09:33
masahitoyes. I think it's ok.09:33
masahitopriteau hrito, if either of you have topics, we'll have.09:34
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priteauI don't have any topic for now09:35
masahitoI'm thinking to send 'skip meeting mail' this weekend. If you have topics, please update the agenda wiki page.09:35
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masahito#topic BigTent09:37
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masahitopriteau: thanks the review of the proposal.09:37
masahitohttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/blazar-project-definition09:37
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masahitoI'll try to push the patch in this week.09:38
hiro-kobayashiWhat is the tag "team:single-vendor "?09:39
priteauhttps://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tags/team_single-vendor.html09:40
masahitoAnd I asked TC of what we need to BigTent. then thierry replied the mail.09:40
priteauThe conditions of the team tag are listed on this page09:40
priteauIn principle we are not single vendor, as there are three organizations in the active core reviewers, and more in the active non-core reviewers09:41
masahitothe definition's of the tag is written here. https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/tags/team_single-vendor.rst09:41
priteauHowever, for the past 6 months lots of patches came from NTT, so maybe the script will detect us as single vendor09:42
priteaumasahito: Have you been able to run the script?09:42
hiro-kobayashiGot it09:42
masahitopriteau: I run the script and it doesn't say "blazar shouldn't have the tag".09:42
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priteauWhat does it say? For me the script throws an exception09:43
masahitothe script just check whether each project shouldn't have tags.09:43
masahitoif the project doesn't have the tag, the script says nothing.09:44
masahitosorry, wrong sentence.09:44
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masahitoif Blazar doesn't have single-vender tag, the script says nothing.09:45
masahitoif Blazar have single-vender tag, the script says nothing.09:45
masahitoit means the script only shows "wrong tags" in projects.yaml.09:46
priteauSo do you think we should keep the tag for proposal?09:47
masahitoIMO, it's not good to hide the fact.09:47
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priteauI agree09:48
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masahitobut we can also write the truth that we have some contributers from many organizations in the commit message.09:49
hiro-kobayashi+109:49
masahitoand the history of the project shows the tag, too.09:49
priteauHopefully we can remove the tag in the future09:50
hiro-kobayashidefinitely09:50
masahitoright.09:51
masahitoany comments for the proposal?09:52
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hiro-kobayashi+1 for the proposal. I have no additional comment09:52
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hiro-kobayashithanks masahito!09:53
masahitohiro-kobayashi: thanks.09:53
masahito#topic AOB09:53
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masahitolast 7 mins.09:53
hiro-kobayashiThe gate still fails...09:53
masahitoany update or info?09:53
hiro-kobayashiLooks the same log from blazar-a09:54
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hiro-kobayashiBTW, I have an idea for getting rid of blazar-nova filter09:54
hiro-kobayashifor the host reservation09:54
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hiro-kobayashiThe solution is using AggregateMultiTenancyIsolation just like the new instance reservation feature09:55
hiro-kobayashiReservation owners specify the reserved resource my the availability_zone parameter when creates servers09:56
hiro-kobayashiNot to use sheduler-hint09:56
priteauInteresting approach09:57
masahitosounds nice.09:57
hiro-kobayashiI'll right details in Gerrit in this week maybe. So please review it!09:57
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masahitocould you write down the idea in the bp?09:57
hiro-kobayashimashito: yes09:58
masahitoof course, spec is ok :-)09:58
masahitoone fyi from my side09:58
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masahitoOPNFV Promise team will show a quick demo that shows blazar's reservation feature in next week.09:59
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masahitoThe scenario is L34-44 in this etherpad. https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/doctor_poc_at_summit_201709:59
masahitoit only shows a host reservation barriers non-reserved instance can't be scheduled to the reserved hosts.10:00
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masahitothe scenario is quit similar to the tempest scenario we have.10:00
masahitothat's my fyi.10:01
masahitooops, running out of time.10:01
masahitothanks all!10:02
priteauthanks10:02
masahitosee you in next two week.10:02
hiro-kobayashithanks! see you!10:02
hritobye10:02
masahito#endmeeting10:02
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EmilienMhola14:00
EmilienM#startmeeting tripleo14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  6 14:00:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)"14:00
EmilienM#topic agenda14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tripleo'14:00
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jristo/14:00
EmilienM* review past action items14:00
EmilienM* one off agenda items14:00
mwhahahahola14:00
EmilienM* bugs14:00
EmilienM* Projects releases or stable backports14:00
EmilienM* CI14:01
EmilienM* Specs14:01
EmilienM* open discussion14:01
EmilienMAnyone can use the #link, #action and #info commands, not just the moderatorǃ14:01
EmilienMHi everyone! who is around today?14:01
d0ugalo/14:01
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sshnaidmo\14:01
cdearborn\014:01
jpicho/14:01
akrivokahi o/14:01
marioshello tripleowls14:01
pandaii14:01
ccamachoo/14:01
shardyo/14:02
radekso/14:02
EmilienM#topic review past action items14:02
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EmilienM(postponed) rasca follow up tripleo-quickstart-utils discussion on ML14:02
EmilienMI see rasca sent out an email today14:02
rascao/14:02
adarazso/14:02
weshay0/14:03
lyarwood_o/14:03
EmilienM(I haven't looked at it yet, still catching up emails)14:03
jankio/14:03
EmilienMif folks interested by this topic could participate in the thread it would be great14:03
rascaEmilienM, no prob, it's something we can discuss inside the thread14:03
EmilienMrasca: yeah, thanks14:03
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EmilienM#topic one off agenda items14:03
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rascaEmilienM, and sorry again for being late in the answer14:04
fultonjo/14:04
EmilienMccamacho: go ahead14:04
ccamachohey EmilienM, mm didn't know how to ask correctly, ill try. There are some folks interested in know better how the upstream CI is working /me among them (In my case the upgrades jobs) in order to help making it greener.14:04
EmilienMrasca: no problem at all14:04
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trowno/14:04
jtomaseko/14:04
EmilienMccamacho: you want a deep dive about tripleo CI?14:04
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ccamachoEmilienM that would be awesome14:04
florianfo/14:04
bogdandoo/14:04
ccamachobut at first14:04
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jistro/14:04
EmilienMI think we've already had some deep dives about things more or less related14:04
ccamachoto at least know were to see14:04
EmilienMwe might want to be more specific maybe14:04
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ccamachosince it moved to quickstart for me its been a little more tricky to debug.14:05
adarazsccamacho: did you watch panda's quickstart deep dive?14:05
adarazsthat's sort of what you're asking here.14:05
dtrainorhi14:06
adarazsof course the CI system is a lot more, but that's pretty much the starting point for it.14:06
ccamachoadarazs, this one you mean? http://www.anstack.com/blog/2017/05/05/tripleo-deep-dive-session-9.html14:06
EmilienMccamacho: yes this one14:07
adarazsyep, that looks like it.14:07
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trownalso upgrades jobs are still of the old type14:07
mariosccamacho: so fwiw i don't think it can hurt to have a deepdive on ci/latest state of things, assuming you get a volunteer comfortable enough to run it. i know jistr is going to talk about containers and possibly ci related to that.14:07
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sshnaidmccamacho, maybe it's better to focus on specific CI jobs, i.e. upgrades?14:07
mariossomeone already mentioned panda but i know he'd hate me to say his name again so i wont ;)14:07
EmilienMmarios: i'm ok to run it, but we need more context14:07
shardyyeah the baremetal upgrade job is still the old script, but the new upgrade-to-containers one uses quickstart IIRC14:07
jistryea in the containers deep dive, i want to have a part about where to look in the CI logs14:07
jistrand how the container CI was done14:08
trownnice jistr14:08
ccamachosshnaidm for me it would be awesome to focus on the upgrades jobs14:08
sshnaidmI'm +1 to have deep dive about upgrades14:08
adarazsjistr: \o/14:08
EmilienMjistr: ++14:08
jistrsee https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-deep-dive-containers14:08
jistrfeel free to add more suggestions at the bottom14:08
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jistri've already addressed some14:08
ccamachothanks!14:08
jistrif it grows too much we can split it into 2 deep dives14:08
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EmilienMjistr: excellent idea14:08
ccamachothanks jistr Ill look it :)14:09
jistrwe'd probably do this next week (15th) if that's ok14:09
EmilienMccamacho: please have a look at what jistr is preparing and if some things are missing, please dress a list and we'll see if we can schedule another deep dive14:09
sshnaidmmaybe after containers deep dives it will be great to have upgrades deep dive :)14:09
EmilienMccamacho: also, don't hesitate to be very specific14:09
matbuo/14:09
weshayI was thinking to eventually make the ocata -> pike containerized upgrade gating.. and make an experimental non-containerized -> non-containerized upgrade for ocata to pike in experimental14:09
ccamachosure thing EmilienM thanks!14:09
EmilienMweshay: maybe a bit out of context now, isn't?14:10
weshaysorry..14:10
EmilienMccamacho: I'll let you keep track on this topic14:10
EmilienMccamacho: and see if some topics haven't been covered by deep dive14:10
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EmilienMccamacho: thanks for bringing this up, it's important to share knowledge14:10
EmilienMbogdando: go ahead14:11
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bogdandohi folks14:11
bogdandoI'm seeking for COW solutions to de-duplicated the space consumed by docker images, in cache and in registry as well14:12
bogdandonothing interesting googled out, asked for internal openshift ML as well. So, I'll need some help from experienced folks14:12
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EmilienMhave you kicked off some discussion on openstack-dev ML?14:13
bogdandoand also wondering if that would be applicable for CI & nodepool images at all14:13
EmilienMI'm pretty sure this is a cross-project topic14:13
bogdandoEmilienM: not yet, will do14:13
trownseems applicable to CI since we are already running out of space on the undercloud14:13
bogdandotrown: yeah, I mean the btrfs partitions for VMs14:14
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bogdandoif assumed they could help us14:14
shardywhen I discussed this with mandre last week, I wondered why we're populating the undercloud registry for CI jobs, vs just pulling from dockerhub and relying on infra caching?14:14
shardye.g if we did that we wouldn't use any additional undercloud space?14:14
shardydoes anyone know if that was looked at?14:14
bogdandoshardy: even if we don't deploy the registry, there is still room to de-duplicate kolla images fetched14:15
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bogdandoif I do docker save | gzip -6, the resulting tarball is <3G!14:15
shardybogdando: agreed, I'm sure we can optimize, I was commenting re running out of space on the undercloud14:15
bogdando< 3G14:15
* beagles wanders in late14:15
bogdandoI mean for all images, like 30+14:16
bogdandothere is not much info wrt btrfs online de-duplication and COW and docker , sadly14:16
bogdandoso I wanted to research. That's it from my side14:17
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EmilienMI suggest to follow-up, maybe on the mailing-list if you don't mind14:17
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bogdandookay14:17
EmilienM#topic bugs14:18
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EmilienM#link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/pike-214:18
EmilienM#link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/pike-314:18
EmilienMdo we have outstanding bugs to discuss this week?14:18
beaglesI've one on my plate https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/169588514:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1695885 in tripleo "nf_conntrack_proto_sctp is not compiled as a module in newer RHEL release" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Brent Eagles (beagles)14:19
EmilienMCritical?14:19
EmilienMI've seen a tendency of use Critical for a bunch of things14:20
beagleshave we run into a situation like this before where different kernels have had different build options14:20
EmilienMis it blocking CI?14:20
beaglesEmilienM: yeah, you're right I'll set to high14:20
beaglesEmilienM: it blocks upcoming distro changes, but doesn't affect the current state of t hings14:21
EmilienMyeah, let's use Critical when it's really critical, like you can't deploy anything14:21
beaglesack14:21
EmilienMfor example, promotion blockers are critical14:21
EmilienMsince we consider promotion important to keep track on trunk14:21
beaglesgotcha14:21
EmilienMbut classic bugs are High, unless they affect the whole deployment14:21
EmilienMI'll move to the next topic14:22
EmilienM#topic projects releases or stable backports14:22
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EmilienMthis week is pike-2 milestone14:22
EmilienMexcept tripleo-ui where I'm already in touch with jtomasek, do we have blockers in tripleo that we need to fix / merge before the m2 release?14:22
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florianfEmilienM: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469554/ this is currently breaking validtions when there's no existing stack14:23
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EmilienMflorianf: good to know, added on my review list14:23
florianfEmilienM: not sure if this accounts for a blocker, but it should really be merged before m214:23
florianfEmilienM: excellent, thanks!14:23
EmilienMflorianf: it will merge before14:24
EmilienMi'll propose the release tomorrow night or Thursday14:24
EmilienMto make sure we can do it before Thursday night14:24
EmilienM#topic CI14:25
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EmilienMright now, the main blocker to promote tripleo CI is https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/169609414:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1696094 in tripleo "CI: ovb-ha promotion job fails with 504 gateway timeout" [Critical,Triaged]14:25
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EmilienMnetworking folks are working on it afik14:25
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EmilienMother than that, it seems like we're close to have CI promotion14:25
adarazsyay, I hope that happens today. :S14:26
EmilienMis there anything CI-related thing that we need discuss this week, beside what is being discussed in the tripleo ci squad meeting?14:26
EmilienMadarazs: I hope too, 16 days without promotion is bad :(14:26
EmilienMmoving to the next topic14:27
sshnaidmcontainers job have problems sometimes to pull docker images from dockerhub14:27
EmilienM#topic specs14:27
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EmilienM#undo14:27
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #topic specs14:27
sshnaidmtonight it happened about 10 times, it's always some other image14:27
EmilienMsshnaidm: is it reported in launchpad?14:27
sshnaidmEmilienM, no, will do14:27
EmilienMsshnaidm: don't we use AFS for that yet?14:27
sshnaidmjust wanted to be sure - do we use AFS??14:28
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EmilienMI thought dprince (not online) did some work around this thing14:28
EmilienMI haven't looked at it recently14:28
sshnaidmI don't know too how it's finished..14:28
sshnaidmok, will open LP meanwhile14:29
shardysshnaidm: we should chat with pabelanger as IIRC he did some caching work which we were going to use to avoid this14:29
EmilienMthat was done: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454893/14:29
EmilienMwe use in-rack HTTP docker registry proxy14:29
EmilienMsshnaidm: let's follow-up with pabelanger and dprince14:30
sshnaidmEmilienM, sure14:30
shardyEmilienM: dprince did that for the OVB jobs IIRC but there was an infra solution planned for the multinode container jobs IIRC14:30
EmilienMshardy: yeah, it makes sense14:30
EmilienManything else CI related?14:30
sshnaidmnope14:31
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EmilienM#topic specs14:31
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EmilienM#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open14:31
EmilienMdo we have any spec to discuss this week?14:31
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shardyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/composable-networks14:32
shardyI raised that BP to cover some patches I started aiming to j2 render network related parts of t-h-t14:32
shardyit's been discussed for a while, trying to move it forward14:32
shardyNo spec, just a blueprint FYI14:33
EmilienMshardy: do you need reviews on the patches?14:33
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shardyEmilienM: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/composable-networks14:33
shardyI'll get those passing CI and chase for reviews during the week14:34
EmilienMcool14:34
EmilienMthanks!14:34
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EmilienManything else for the specs?14:34
EmilienM#topic open discussion14:35
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EmilienMquick note :14:35
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EmilienMyou probably saw the discussion on openstack-dev about PTG14:35
EmilienMwe'll keep the same kind of schedule than last time14:35
EmilienMwhere monday / tuesday are for horizontal topics and wednesday / thursday / friday are for vertical14:35
EmilienMand tripleo is vertial14:35
EmilienMvertical*14:36
EmilienMI proposed to do the tripleo sessions between Wednesday and Friday morning, so folks can travel on the afternoon14:36
EmilienMthe sessions on Friday morning won't be as critical as the ones on Wednesday & Thursday, so folks can also travel on Friday morning or even Thursday night if needed14:36
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EmilienMhow does it sound? Is 2 days enough? Do we need 3 days?14:36
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shardyI think 2 days with Friday for any follow-up topics is enough14:37
EmilienMyeah14:37
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EmilienMI thought on Friday morning we could do more hands-on sessions14:37
EmilienMif folks want to work together or do some hands on training, etc14:38
shardy+1 sounds good to me14:38
EmilienMcool14:38
EmilienManything feedback on ^ is welcome, on the thread or IRC (to me directly)14:38
EmilienMthanks everyone, let's go back to work now ;-)14:38
EmilienM#endmeeting14:38
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tmorin1#startmeeting bgpvpn15:24
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  6 15:24:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tmorin1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:24
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:24
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tmorin1hi everyone15:24
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn'15:24
tmorin1sorry for starting late15:24
tmorin1let's see who is here15:24
tmorin1matrohon ? pcarver ? doude ?15:24
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pcarverhi15:25
tmorin1hi paul15:25
pcarverTotally lost track of time, but I guess I didn't miss much15:25
tmorin1I don't have an overwhelming amount of items that I see we should discuss today15:25
tmorin1we didn't even start15:25
tmorin1I was very late as well15:26
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tmorin1#topic bugs/gate15:26
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tmorin1not much to say here15:26
tmorin1we merged minor bugfixes15:26
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tmorin1including a change to pin our dependency to networking-odl, which was (again) causing our functional test to break15:26
tmorin1this is solved15:26
tmorin1details at : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471230/15:27
tmorin1#topic BGPVPN port associations and static routes15:27
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tmorin1there have been useful/positive reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467277/15:27
tmorin1#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467277/15:27
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tmorin1my understanding is that all comments have been addressed15:27
tmorin1but I think that more reviews would be useful to have before we merge15:28
tmorin1I've asked Nuage folks to review15:28
tmorin1having feedback from ODL crowd would be nice as well15:28
pcarverI plan to give it another look15:28
tmorin1pcarver: this will be welcome15:28
tmorin1there is one area where I think the doc is too implicit: what happens when a Port is associated to BGPVPNs and its Network is also associated to a different set of BGPVPNs... ?15:29
tmorin1my idea is that the Port should inherit, and hence end up being associated with all which is above it15:30
tmorin1and I think we could discuss generalizing this to Port/Network/Router15:30
pcarverThat seems like a logical approach15:30
tmorin1even though, until now, we have prevented doing both Network and Router associations15:30
tmorin1https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/networking/v2/#association-constraints15:30
tmorin1I think we may want to revisit this constraint15:31
tmorin1I'm not sure that the restriction is actually strongly relevant, and we know that it is actually hard to ensure this constraint in backends15:31
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tmorin1at least in some of them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/164851015:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1648510 in networking-bgpvpn "Constraint enforcment might not work for contrail driver" [Undecided,New]15:31
tmorin1so well, food for thought...15:32
tmorin1pcarver: anything else to add ?15:32
pcarvertmorin1: no, not really. I know there are a few Gerrit notifications from you in my inbox that I need to get to.15:32
tmorin1possible, I don't have any specific one in mind though15:33
tmorin1I've got (non network related) constraints today, so if nothing else, I would close the meeting.... ?15:33
tmorin1ok for you ?15:33
pcarversounds good15:33
tmorin1ok, thank you15:33
tmorin1let's follow up next week15:34
tmorin1bye!15:34
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tmorin1#endmeeting15:34
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felipemonteiro#startmeeting murano17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  6 17:00:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is felipemonteiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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felipemonteiro#topic Roll Call17:00
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felipemonteiroo/17:01
kzaitsev_o/17:01
kzaitsev_from my phone here :)17:01
felipemonteirokzaitsev_: nice17:02
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kzaitsev_my schedule shifted a bit so the meeting is now around the time I'm heading home :(17:02
felipemonteiroshouldn't be a long meeting as this time is currently incovenient to many17:03
felipemonteiro#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468182/17:03
felipemonteirolinking for archives17:03
felipemonteirousually infra reviews really fast, hopefully it gets merged before next meeting17:03
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kzaitsev_well we can always just put that to ML and have next meeting on new time :)17:04
felipemonteiro#topic Open Discussion17:04
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felipemonteirokzaitsev_: i was attempted but i didn't reschedule today because of worse case situation where another project did the same thing with another open review17:05
felipemonteirotempted*17:05
kzaitsev_this week is pike-2 week, so I'm going to request respective releases tomorrow17:05
felipemonteirothanks17:06
felipemonteirothe policy stuff should be done before pike-317:06
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kzaitsev_99my connection may disappear for a couple of moments. will be better in a min17:06
felipemonteirowanted to ask you about api versioning in murano...i don't believe it's currently supported?17:08
kzaitsev_99I believe there was a letter, that all libraries should release before p-2 so there'll be client release also17:09
kzaitsev_99you mean micro-versions?17:09
felipemonteiroyes, api wg will require it going forward for pretty much most api changes17:10
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kzaitsev_99well, generally no. i don't think we implemented micro versions17:10
felipemonteirosomething i'll look at for next release because many things in the api are unclear or inconsistent, imo it could undergo some cleaning up17:11
kzaitsev_99there probably was some discussion back in the day. but i don't think there ever was a bp or smth17:11
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felipemonteiroalso looks like freerunner is attempting to get murano ci to work with xenial?17:12
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kzaitsev_he's still with mirantis and in a different city than i am :) i'll try to ping him :)17:13
kzaitsev_to get some info17:14
kzaitsev_saw both yours and his CI patches.17:14
kzaitsev_also the cinder tests got super annoying lately :(17:15
felipemonteiroi experimented with putting it in infra (for murano) but i don't think it's viable. i do believe it can be done with murano dashboard ci and splitting classes across multiple gates.17:15
felipemonteirohaven't been focusing on it though because keep getting dragged into different things17:15
felipemonteirobut if freerunner fixes murano ci internally that would be ideal17:16
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kzaitsev_freerunner: used to brag, he understands how to make infra run CI tests, but I never got down in the weeds of how to do that17:17
kzaitsev_:)17:17
felipemonteiroyes, cinder tests have been. some functions in murano's tempest plugin might need to be looked at for proper clean up. some places even use deprecated functionality and other gotchas if i remember correctly.17:17
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felipemonteirokzaitsev_: did it for patrole, our company project, very annoying, but absolutely necessary for testing framework17:18
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felipemonteirodon't know if you saw, pbourke also has a spec up17:19
felipemonteiroi have yet to read through it, will try to get to it today17:20
kzaitsev_saw, reviewed a bit. need to go through the 2d ver17:20
kzaitsev_i'm mostly ok with it as long as it's optional.17:21
felipemonteiroyes because it opts to use Castellan which is external resource17:21
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kzaitsev_ideally the encryption thing should be pluggable, so that we could get a dummy plugin or smth more complex17:22
felipemonteiroalthough i believe that once implemented documentation should be written to encourage its use for obvious reasons17:22
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kzaitsev_although..17:22
kzaitsev_no it's probably better not to tempt users :) if you want encryption — use Barbican :) if not — ok but not smth homebrewrd17:23
kzaitsev_will disappear for a sec17:24
felipemonteiroi haven't looked through castellan project, i figured it was a wrapper around barbican and other storage back-ends17:25
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felipemonteirokzaitsev_: anything else for discussion? appears  no one else is joining us this week17:30
kzaitsev_nope.17:31
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kzaitsev_was glad to hear from you :)17:31
felipemonteirosame, thanks for joining and congrats on the new job at...samsung?17:32
kzaitsev_yeah :)17:32
felipemonteirowill end a bit early then this week, hopefully our new meeting time gets approved for next week so we get better attendance17:33
kzaitsev_i keep my stackalytics account updated :)17:33
felipemonteiroi was curious as to whether you were in russia to determine your time zone :)17:33
felipemonteirosee you next wee17:34
felipemonteirok17:34
kzaitsev_yep i'm in moscow :)17:34
kzaitsev_k. see you :)17:34
felipemonteiro#endmeeting17:35
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catherineD#startmeeting refstack19:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  6 19:00:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
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catherineD#link meeting agenda and notes,  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-06-0619:01
mguineyo/19:01
catherineDhi everyone19:02
catherineDit should be a shiort meeting today19:02
catherineDlet's start19:02
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catherineD#topic Next week IRC meeting19:03
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luzCo/19:03
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catherineDPaul wll  run the IRC meeting on June 13 and 2019:04
catherineDpvaneck: thanks for hosting the meetings19:04
pvaneckyep :)19:05
catherineD#topic Displaying RefStack documentation19:05
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catherineDpvaneck: I guess we just need an other +2 on the last patch  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460746/19:07
pvaneckyea, will ask again soon19:07
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catherineDpvaneck:  thanks19:07
catherineD#topic Tools to check whether test links in a spreadsheet are marked as verified in RefStack19:08
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mguineyjust about to push a patch for that now19:08
catherineDmguiney: thanks! any thing we need to discuss ?19:09
mguineynot a ton, decided to make the update success status logging an automatic thing rather than a flagged thing19:09
mguineybecause it's generally useful to have a record that you can go to for the last run, rather than needing to run the script again19:10
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mguiney(once you realize things may have gone wrong, that is)19:11
catherineDalright .. please ping if you need to discuss at the #refsack IRC19:12
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catherineDalright moving on19:15
catherineD#topic Pending reviews19:16
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catherineD#link Add scripts for running refstack-client in docker (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430701/19:17
catherineDso Anne had reviewed it still does not work on her Mac ..19:17
catherineDit works for me on my Ubuntu ... I think for mguiney:  too19:18
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catherineDChris mentioned last time that he can test on his Mac19:19
catherineDI will ask him to review19:19
catherineDmguiney: please mention this to Chris if you have a chance to talk to him19:20
catherineD#link     Add 'rm -f .testrepository/times.dbm' command in testenv (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459652/ )19:21
mguineyi will, should be talking to him later today19:22
catherineDthanks19:22
hogepodgeo/19:22
hogepodgecatherineD: I'll get on it19:22
catherineDhogepodge: thank you !  I don't have a Mac env for the test ...19:23
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catherineDfor https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459652/  I will contact Nitesh to make similar update to the one he did today19:25
catherineD#link Added Defcore additional properties waiver  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370534/19:26
luzCneeds some rework... on my pending list19:28
catherineDluzC: do we still want to continue with  this patch?19:28
catherineDluzC: alright ... thanks19:29
luzCthat was my same question... not sure how often the waiver is being used... the rework might take a while, so if waiver is not in use, I can abandon the patch completely19:29
catherineDluzC: ++19:29
catherineDhogepodge: your thought?19:29
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catherineDluzC: How about bring this up for discussion on the Interop WG meeting tomorrow19:32
luzCok, sounds good19:33
luzCI'll bring it there19:33
hogepodgewaiver isn't being used much19:33
hogepodgenot sure if it's going to be in effect much longer19:33
hogepodgeonly one company has used it19:33
catherineD++19:33
rockygI think it goes out with 2018.01?  or 2017.08?19:34
rockygIt was only for a year.19:34
catherineDI thnk it will go out in 2017.08 ... if so it does not make sense to push this patch at RefStack...19:35
catherineDlet's confirm on that in tomorrow's meeting with the interop wg19:36
catherineDmoving on ...19:36
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catherineD#Open discussion19:36
catherineDany other topic to discuss?19:36
catherineDhearing nothing.  I think we can close up for the day19:39
rockygJust wanted to say there are acouple of *long* threads on dev on tempest, tempest plugins and the trademark programs19:39
rockygOf course, no one has thought to bring the interop ML into the discussions on the part that relates to trademark.19:39
rockygAnd there are assumptions that interopWG is aware of and remembers a couple of TC resolutions about what can be included in the guidelines and TM19:40
mguineyon the forums, or?19:40
rockygOn the dev ML19:41
mguineyahhhh makes sense19:41
mguineysorry, didnt pick that up on first read19:41
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rockygYeah.  It seems that some think InteropWG can't add any projects that aren't in some dev list that is part of an old resolution.  Others think it has to have some tag.  And the location of the tests also become an issue.19:42
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rockygBecause of one of the old resolutions saying all defcore tests need to be in tempest.19:43
catherineDrockyg: should Interop WG discuss that in tomorrow's meeting to evaluate the impact?19:43
rockygOh, and interop WG doesn't add or modify many tests.  So, slackers19:43
rockygYes, we should.  I'm going to post an email to the interop list with links to the threads, but if anyone else gets there first, great!19:44
catherineDrockyg: ++19:45
catherineDanything else?19:45
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catherineDok let's close the meeting19:46
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catherineDthank you all!19:46
rockygThanks!19:47
catherineDhave a good day ! bye!19:47
catherineD#endmeeting19:47
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mguineyhave a good day, y'all!19:48
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