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daidv | Morning! | 01:42 |
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masahito | hi all. time for blazar team meeting. | 09:00 |
masahito | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 6 09:00:59 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:01 |
masahito | #topic RollCall | 09:01 |
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*** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:01 | |
hiro-kobayashi | o/ | 09:01 |
hrito | o/ | 09:01 |
tejaswi | o/ | 09:01 |
masahito | hi hiro-kobayashi, hrito, tejaswi | 09:01 |
masahito | today's agenda is | 09:02 |
masahito | 1. gate failure | 09:02 |
masahito | 2. instance reservation | 09:02 |
masahito | 3. next weekly meeting | 09:02 |
masahito | 4. AOB | 09:02 |
masahito | anything else? | 09:02 |
priteau | o/ | 09:02 |
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masahito | hello, priteau | 09:02 |
priteau | masahito: Big Tent? | 09:02 |
masahito | #chair hiro-kobayashi priteau | 09:03 |
openstack | Current chairs: hiro-kobayashi masahito priteau | 09:03 |
masahito | priteau: right. | 09:03 |
masahito | 4. BigTent | 09:03 |
masahito | let's move on to first item. | 09:03 |
masahito | #topic gate failure | 09:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "gate failure (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:03 | |
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masahito | The gate failure in tempest tests appears again. | 09:04 |
masahito | The log of blazar-a shows oslo.messaging fails to send a message to blazar-manager. | 09:05 |
masahito | http://logs.openstack.org/64/467064/6/gate/gate-blazar-devstack-dsvm/97b6df3/logs/screen-blazar-a.txt.gz#_Jun_05_19_13_57_996255 | 09:05 |
priteau | Could it be a regression from a requirements lib? | 09:06 |
masahito | This issue seemed to be fixed last week, but show up again. | 09:06 |
priteau | I don't think we have changed anything related to messaging recently | 09:06 |
masahito | priteau: maybe | 09:06 |
hiro-kobayashi | I guess that's caused by the update of oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470975/ | 09:07 |
hiro-kobayashi | But I'm not sure the root cause | 09:08 |
masahito | if the change is a root cause, we can check it by reverting the requirements.txt. | 09:08 |
priteau | There was a blacklist added for 5.25.0: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469539/ | 09:08 |
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masahito | s/reverting/revicing/ | 09:08 |
priteau | But gate fails even with this blacklist: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470084/8 | 09:09 |
masahito | another package could have upper constraints with 5.25.0. | 09:10 |
masahito | if so, it hits the bug. | 09:10 |
masahito | we should add !=5.25.0 to our requirements.txt to avoid the error. | 09:12 |
masahito | does it make sense? | 09:12 |
hiro-kobayashi | And 5.26, maybe | 09:12 |
masahito | right. | 09:13 |
priteau | masahito: that's what is proposed by the bot: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470084/8/requirements.txt | 09:13 |
priteau | maybe 5.26 is buggy too but hasn't been noticed? | 09:13 |
priteau | we can try a WIP patch forcing oslo.messaging to an older version | 09:14 |
hiro-kobayashi | I think it hasn't | 09:14 |
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masahito | according to the commit message, we can avoid the bug with config in devstack. | 09:16 |
masahito | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469539/ | 09:16 |
masahito | anyway, check the result of the patch hiro-kobayashi is pushing now. Then if it works, we can do quick fix. | 09:17 |
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masahito | s/do quick fix/apply the fix/ | 09:17 |
hiro-kobayashi | I pushed the patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471177/5 | 09:17 |
hiro-kobayashi | I'm sorry but it also contains another changes. But I think they doesn't effect the result | 09:18 |
priteau | What are the non-requirements changes for? | 09:18 |
hiro-kobayashi | They are the remains of my investigation | 09:19 |
masahito | i think it's different change he is working on now. | 09:19 |
priteau | OK, I'll ignore :-) | 09:20 |
hiro-kobayashi | thanks | 09:20 |
priteau | Let's see what happens with the gate then | 09:20 |
masahito | let's jump on next :-) | 09:21 |
masahito | #topic instance reservation | 09:21 |
*** openstack changes topic to "instance reservation (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:21 | |
masahito | I saw some of patches related to instance reservation has CR+2 and WR+1 | 09:22 |
masahito | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467064/ | 09:22 |
masahito | but spec of the feature is still in review status. so the above patch will wait the spec is merged. | 09:23 |
masahito | spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459533/ | 09:23 |
priteau | Should I remove my W+1? | 09:23 |
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masahito | or add CR+2 and/or W+1 to spec :-) | 09:24 |
priteau | Need to review still :-) | 09:24 |
masahito | zuul handles the dependency. so you don't need to remove W+1. | 09:24 |
priteau | I don't see a way to remove it anyway | 09:24 |
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priteau | I just happened to see this patch in my inbox and it was a quick one to review | 09:25 |
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masahito | got it. | 09:26 |
masahito | priteau: please review the spec. | 09:26 |
priteau | OK | 09:26 |
masahito | any comments about instance reservation? | 09:27 |
masahito | if nothing, move on to next. | 09:27 |
masahito | #topic next weekly meeting | 09:28 |
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masahito | hiro-kobayashi and me will attend OPNFV summit next week. So we can't chair the meeting. | 09:29 |
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priteau | And Gerald is on vacation | 09:30 |
masahito | Does it make sense to skip next meeting? or we'll have the meeting? | 09:30 |
masahito | priteau: right. | 09:30 |
priteau | Maybe skip due to few people attending? | 09:30 |
masahito | In other words, who can join next week? | 09:30 |
hrito | I can. but I dont have any topic | 09:31 |
priteau | I can too | 09:31 |
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priteau | So maybe skip if it's just the two of us? | 09:33 |
masahito | yes. I think it's ok. | 09:33 |
masahito | priteau hrito, if either of you have topics, we'll have. | 09:34 |
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priteau | I don't have any topic for now | 09:35 |
masahito | I'm thinking to send 'skip meeting mail' this weekend. If you have topics, please update the agenda wiki page. | 09:35 |
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hrito | ok | 09:35 |
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masahito | #topic BigTent | 09:37 |
*** openstack changes topic to "BigTent (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:37 | |
masahito | priteau: thanks the review of the proposal. | 09:37 |
masahito | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/blazar-project-definition | 09:37 |
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masahito | I'll try to push the patch in this week. | 09:38 |
hiro-kobayashi | What is the tag "team:single-vendor "? | 09:39 |
priteau | https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tags/team_single-vendor.html | 09:40 |
masahito | And I asked TC of what we need to BigTent. then thierry replied the mail. | 09:40 |
priteau | The conditions of the team tag are listed on this page | 09:40 |
priteau | In principle we are not single vendor, as there are three organizations in the active core reviewers, and more in the active non-core reviewers | 09:41 |
masahito | the definition's of the tag is written here. https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/tags/team_single-vendor.rst | 09:41 |
priteau | However, for the past 6 months lots of patches came from NTT, so maybe the script will detect us as single vendor | 09:42 |
priteau | masahito: Have you been able to run the script? | 09:42 |
hiro-kobayashi | Got it | 09:42 |
masahito | priteau: I run the script and it doesn't say "blazar shouldn't have the tag". | 09:42 |
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priteau | What does it say? For me the script throws an exception | 09:43 |
masahito | the script just check whether each project shouldn't have tags. | 09:43 |
masahito | if the project doesn't have the tag, the script says nothing. | 09:44 |
masahito | sorry, wrong sentence. | 09:44 |
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masahito | if Blazar doesn't have single-vender tag, the script says nothing. | 09:45 |
masahito | if Blazar have single-vender tag, the script says nothing. | 09:45 |
masahito | it means the script only shows "wrong tags" in projects.yaml. | 09:46 |
priteau | So do you think we should keep the tag for proposal? | 09:47 |
masahito | IMO, it's not good to hide the fact. | 09:47 |
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priteau | I agree | 09:48 |
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masahito | but we can also write the truth that we have some contributers from many organizations in the commit message. | 09:49 |
hiro-kobayashi | +1 | 09:49 |
masahito | and the history of the project shows the tag, too. | 09:49 |
priteau | Hopefully we can remove the tag in the future | 09:50 |
hiro-kobayashi | definitely | 09:50 |
masahito | right. | 09:51 |
masahito | any comments for the proposal? | 09:52 |
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hiro-kobayashi | +1 for the proposal. I have no additional comment | 09:52 |
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hiro-kobayashi | thanks masahito! | 09:53 |
masahito | hiro-kobayashi: thanks. | 09:53 |
masahito | #topic AOB | 09:53 |
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masahito | last 7 mins. | 09:53 |
hiro-kobayashi | The gate still fails... | 09:53 |
masahito | any update or info? | 09:53 |
hiro-kobayashi | Looks the same log from blazar-a | 09:54 |
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hiro-kobayashi | BTW, I have an idea for getting rid of blazar-nova filter | 09:54 |
hiro-kobayashi | for the host reservation | 09:54 |
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hiro-kobayashi | The solution is using AggregateMultiTenancyIsolation just like the new instance reservation feature | 09:55 |
hiro-kobayashi | Reservation owners specify the reserved resource my the availability_zone parameter when creates servers | 09:56 |
hiro-kobayashi | Not to use sheduler-hint | 09:56 |
priteau | Interesting approach | 09:57 |
masahito | sounds nice. | 09:57 |
hiro-kobayashi | I'll right details in Gerrit in this week maybe. So please review it! | 09:57 |
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masahito | could you write down the idea in the bp? | 09:57 |
hiro-kobayashi | mashito: yes | 09:58 |
masahito | of course, spec is ok :-) | 09:58 |
masahito | one fyi from my side | 09:58 |
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masahito | OPNFV Promise team will show a quick demo that shows blazar's reservation feature in next week. | 09:59 |
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masahito | The scenario is L34-44 in this etherpad. https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/doctor_poc_at_summit_2017 | 09:59 |
masahito | it only shows a host reservation barriers non-reserved instance can't be scheduled to the reserved hosts. | 10:00 |
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masahito | the scenario is quit similar to the tempest scenario we have. | 10:00 |
masahito | that's my fyi. | 10:01 |
masahito | oops, running out of time. | 10:01 |
masahito | thanks all! | 10:02 |
priteau | thanks | 10:02 |
masahito | see you in next two week. | 10:02 |
hiro-kobayashi | thanks! see you! | 10:02 |
hrito | bye | 10:02 |
masahito | #endmeeting | 10:02 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 6 10:02:41 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:02 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-06-06-09.00.html | 10:02 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-06-06-09.00.txt | 10:02 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-06-06-09.00.log.html | 10:02 |
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EmilienM | hola | 14:00 |
EmilienM | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 6 14:00:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
EmilienM | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
jrist | o/ | 14:00 |
EmilienM | * review past action items | 14:00 |
EmilienM | * one off agenda items | 14:00 |
mwhahaha | hola | 14:00 |
EmilienM | * bugs | 14:00 |
EmilienM | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:00 |
EmilienM | * CI | 14:01 |
EmilienM | * Specs | 14:01 |
EmilienM | * open discussion | 14:01 |
EmilienM | Anyone can use the #link, #action and #info commands, not just the moderatorǃ | 14:01 |
EmilienM | Hi everyone! who is around today? | 14:01 |
d0ugal | o/ | 14:01 |
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sshnaidm | o\ | 14:01 |
cdearborn | \0 | 14:01 |
jpich | o/ | 14:01 |
akrivoka | hi o/ | 14:01 |
marios | hello tripleowls | 14:01 |
panda | ii | 14:01 |
ccamacho | o/ | 14:01 |
shardy | o/ | 14:02 |
radeks | o/ | 14:02 |
EmilienM | #topic review past action items | 14:02 |
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EmilienM | (postponed) rasca follow up tripleo-quickstart-utils discussion on ML | 14:02 |
EmilienM | I see rasca sent out an email today | 14:02 |
rasca | o/ | 14:02 |
adarazs | o/ | 14:02 |
weshay | 0/ | 14:03 |
lyarwood_ | o/ | 14:03 |
EmilienM | (I haven't looked at it yet, still catching up emails) | 14:03 |
janki | o/ | 14:03 |
EmilienM | if folks interested by this topic could participate in the thread it would be great | 14:03 |
rasca | EmilienM, no prob, it's something we can discuss inside the thread | 14:03 |
EmilienM | rasca: yeah, thanks | 14:03 |
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EmilienM | #topic one off agenda items | 14:03 |
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rasca | EmilienM, and sorry again for being late in the answer | 14:04 |
fultonj | o/ | 14:04 |
EmilienM | ccamacho: go ahead | 14:04 |
ccamacho | hey EmilienM, mm didn't know how to ask correctly, ill try. There are some folks interested in know better how the upstream CI is working /me among them (In my case the upgrades jobs) in order to help making it greener. | 14:04 |
EmilienM | rasca: no problem at all | 14:04 |
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trown | o/ | 14:04 |
jtomasek | o/ | 14:04 |
EmilienM | ccamacho: you want a deep dive about tripleo CI? | 14:04 |
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ccamacho | EmilienM that would be awesome | 14:04 |
florianf | o/ | 14:04 |
bogdando | o/ | 14:04 |
ccamacho | but at first | 14:04 |
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jistr | o/ | 14:04 |
EmilienM | I think we've already had some deep dives about things more or less related | 14:04 |
ccamacho | to at least know were to see | 14:04 |
EmilienM | we might want to be more specific maybe | 14:04 |
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ccamacho | since it moved to quickstart for me its been a little more tricky to debug. | 14:05 |
adarazs | ccamacho: did you watch panda's quickstart deep dive? | 14:05 |
adarazs | that's sort of what you're asking here. | 14:05 |
dtrainor | hi | 14:06 |
adarazs | of course the CI system is a lot more, but that's pretty much the starting point for it. | 14:06 |
ccamacho | adarazs, this one you mean? http://www.anstack.com/blog/2017/05/05/tripleo-deep-dive-session-9.html | 14:06 |
EmilienM | ccamacho: yes this one | 14:07 |
adarazs | yep, that looks like it. | 14:07 |
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trown | also upgrades jobs are still of the old type | 14:07 |
marios | ccamacho: so fwiw i don't think it can hurt to have a deepdive on ci/latest state of things, assuming you get a volunteer comfortable enough to run it. i know jistr is going to talk about containers and possibly ci related to that. | 14:07 |
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sshnaidm | ccamacho, maybe it's better to focus on specific CI jobs, i.e. upgrades? | 14:07 |
marios | someone already mentioned panda but i know he'd hate me to say his name again so i wont ;) | 14:07 |
EmilienM | marios: i'm ok to run it, but we need more context | 14:07 |
shardy | yeah the baremetal upgrade job is still the old script, but the new upgrade-to-containers one uses quickstart IIRC | 14:07 |
jistr | yea in the containers deep dive, i want to have a part about where to look in the CI logs | 14:07 |
jistr | and how the container CI was done | 14:08 |
trown | nice jistr | 14:08 |
ccamacho | sshnaidm for me it would be awesome to focus on the upgrades jobs | 14:08 |
sshnaidm | I'm +1 to have deep dive about upgrades | 14:08 |
adarazs | jistr: \o/ | 14:08 |
EmilienM | jistr: ++ | 14:08 |
jistr | see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-deep-dive-containers | 14:08 |
jistr | feel free to add more suggestions at the bottom | 14:08 |
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jistr | i've already addressed some | 14:08 |
ccamacho | thanks! | 14:08 |
jistr | if it grows too much we can split it into 2 deep dives | 14:08 |
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EmilienM | jistr: excellent idea | 14:08 |
ccamacho | thanks jistr Ill look it :) | 14:09 |
jistr | we'd probably do this next week (15th) if that's ok | 14:09 |
EmilienM | ccamacho: please have a look at what jistr is preparing and if some things are missing, please dress a list and we'll see if we can schedule another deep dive | 14:09 |
sshnaidm | maybe after containers deep dives it will be great to have upgrades deep dive :) | 14:09 |
EmilienM | ccamacho: also, don't hesitate to be very specific | 14:09 |
matbu | o/ | 14:09 |
weshay | I was thinking to eventually make the ocata -> pike containerized upgrade gating.. and make an experimental non-containerized -> non-containerized upgrade for ocata to pike in experimental | 14:09 |
ccamacho | sure thing EmilienM thanks! | 14:09 |
EmilienM | weshay: maybe a bit out of context now, isn't? | 14:10 |
weshay | sorry.. | 14:10 |
EmilienM | ccamacho: I'll let you keep track on this topic | 14:10 |
EmilienM | ccamacho: and see if some topics haven't been covered by deep dive | 14:10 |
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EmilienM | ccamacho: thanks for bringing this up, it's important to share knowledge | 14:10 |
EmilienM | bogdando: go ahead | 14:11 |
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bogdando | hi folks | 14:11 |
bogdando | I'm seeking for COW solutions to de-duplicated the space consumed by docker images, in cache and in registry as well | 14:12 |
bogdando | nothing interesting googled out, asked for internal openshift ML as well. So, I'll need some help from experienced folks | 14:12 |
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EmilienM | have you kicked off some discussion on openstack-dev ML? | 14:13 |
bogdando | and also wondering if that would be applicable for CI & nodepool images at all | 14:13 |
EmilienM | I'm pretty sure this is a cross-project topic | 14:13 |
bogdando | EmilienM: not yet, will do | 14:13 |
trown | seems applicable to CI since we are already running out of space on the undercloud | 14:13 |
bogdando | trown: yeah, I mean the btrfs partitions for VMs | 14:14 |
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bogdando | if assumed they could help us | 14:14 |
shardy | when I discussed this with mandre last week, I wondered why we're populating the undercloud registry for CI jobs, vs just pulling from dockerhub and relying on infra caching? | 14:14 |
shardy | e.g if we did that we wouldn't use any additional undercloud space? | 14:14 |
shardy | does anyone know if that was looked at? | 14:14 |
bogdando | shardy: even if we don't deploy the registry, there is still room to de-duplicate kolla images fetched | 14:15 |
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bogdando | if I do docker save | gzip -6, the resulting tarball is <3G! | 14:15 |
shardy | bogdando: agreed, I'm sure we can optimize, I was commenting re running out of space on the undercloud | 14:15 |
bogdando | < 3G | 14:15 |
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bogdando | I mean for all images, like 30+ | 14:16 |
bogdando | there is not much info wrt btrfs online de-duplication and COW and docker , sadly | 14:16 |
bogdando | so I wanted to research. That's it from my side | 14:17 |
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EmilienM | I suggest to follow-up, maybe on the mailing-list if you don't mind | 14:17 |
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bogdando | okay | 14:17 |
EmilienM | #topic bugs | 14:18 |
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EmilienM | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/pike-2 | 14:18 |
EmilienM | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/pike-3 | 14:18 |
EmilienM | do we have outstanding bugs to discuss this week? | 14:18 |
beagles | I've one on my plate https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1695885 | 14:19 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1695885 in tripleo "nf_conntrack_proto_sctp is not compiled as a module in newer RHEL release" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Brent Eagles (beagles) | 14:19 |
EmilienM | Critical? | 14:19 |
EmilienM | I've seen a tendency of use Critical for a bunch of things | 14:20 |
beagles | have we run into a situation like this before where different kernels have had different build options | 14:20 |
EmilienM | is it blocking CI? | 14:20 |
beagles | EmilienM: yeah, you're right I'll set to high | 14:20 |
beagles | EmilienM: it blocks upcoming distro changes, but doesn't affect the current state of t hings | 14:21 |
EmilienM | yeah, let's use Critical when it's really critical, like you can't deploy anything | 14:21 |
beagles | ack | 14:21 |
EmilienM | for example, promotion blockers are critical | 14:21 |
EmilienM | since we consider promotion important to keep track on trunk | 14:21 |
beagles | gotcha | 14:21 |
EmilienM | but classic bugs are High, unless they affect the whole deployment | 14:21 |
EmilienM | I'll move to the next topic | 14:22 |
EmilienM | #topic projects releases or stable backports | 14:22 |
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EmilienM | this week is pike-2 milestone | 14:22 |
EmilienM | except tripleo-ui where I'm already in touch with jtomasek, do we have blockers in tripleo that we need to fix / merge before the m2 release? | 14:22 |
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florianf | EmilienM: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469554/ this is currently breaking validtions when there's no existing stack | 14:23 |
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EmilienM | florianf: good to know, added on my review list | 14:23 |
florianf | EmilienM: not sure if this accounts for a blocker, but it should really be merged before m2 | 14:23 |
florianf | EmilienM: excellent, thanks! | 14:23 |
EmilienM | florianf: it will merge before | 14:24 |
EmilienM | i'll propose the release tomorrow night or Thursday | 14:24 |
EmilienM | to make sure we can do it before Thursday night | 14:24 |
EmilienM | #topic CI | 14:25 |
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EmilienM | right now, the main blocker to promote tripleo CI is https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1696094 | 14:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1696094 in tripleo "CI: ovb-ha promotion job fails with 504 gateway timeout" [Critical,Triaged] | 14:25 |
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EmilienM | networking folks are working on it afik | 14:25 |
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EmilienM | other than that, it seems like we're close to have CI promotion | 14:25 |
adarazs | yay, I hope that happens today. :S | 14:26 |
EmilienM | is there anything CI-related thing that we need discuss this week, beside what is being discussed in the tripleo ci squad meeting? | 14:26 |
EmilienM | adarazs: I hope too, 16 days without promotion is bad :( | 14:26 |
EmilienM | moving to the next topic | 14:27 |
sshnaidm | containers job have problems sometimes to pull docker images from dockerhub | 14:27 |
EmilienM | #topic specs | 14:27 |
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EmilienM | #undo | 14:27 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic specs | 14:27 |
sshnaidm | tonight it happened about 10 times, it's always some other image | 14:27 |
EmilienM | sshnaidm: is it reported in launchpad? | 14:27 |
sshnaidm | EmilienM, no, will do | 14:27 |
EmilienM | sshnaidm: don't we use AFS for that yet? | 14:27 |
sshnaidm | just wanted to be sure - do we use AFS?? | 14:28 |
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EmilienM | I thought dprince (not online) did some work around this thing | 14:28 |
EmilienM | I haven't looked at it recently | 14:28 |
sshnaidm | I don't know too how it's finished.. | 14:28 |
sshnaidm | ok, will open LP meanwhile | 14:29 |
shardy | sshnaidm: we should chat with pabelanger as IIRC he did some caching work which we were going to use to avoid this | 14:29 |
EmilienM | that was done: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454893/ | 14:29 |
EmilienM | we use in-rack HTTP docker registry proxy | 14:29 |
EmilienM | sshnaidm: let's follow-up with pabelanger and dprince | 14:30 |
sshnaidm | EmilienM, sure | 14:30 |
shardy | EmilienM: dprince did that for the OVB jobs IIRC but there was an infra solution planned for the multinode container jobs IIRC | 14:30 |
EmilienM | shardy: yeah, it makes sense | 14:30 |
EmilienM | anything else CI related? | 14:30 |
sshnaidm | nope | 14:31 |
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EmilienM | #topic specs | 14:31 |
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EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:31 |
EmilienM | do we have any spec to discuss this week? | 14:31 |
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shardy | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/composable-networks | 14:32 |
shardy | I raised that BP to cover some patches I started aiming to j2 render network related parts of t-h-t | 14:32 |
shardy | it's been discussed for a while, trying to move it forward | 14:32 |
shardy | No spec, just a blueprint FYI | 14:33 |
EmilienM | shardy: do you need reviews on the patches? | 14:33 |
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shardy | EmilienM: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/composable-networks | 14:33 |
shardy | I'll get those passing CI and chase for reviews during the week | 14:34 |
EmilienM | cool | 14:34 |
EmilienM | thanks! | 14:34 |
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EmilienM | anything else for the specs? | 14:34 |
EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 14:35 |
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EmilienM | quick note : | 14:35 |
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EmilienM | you probably saw the discussion on openstack-dev about PTG | 14:35 |
EmilienM | we'll keep the same kind of schedule than last time | 14:35 |
EmilienM | where monday / tuesday are for horizontal topics and wednesday / thursday / friday are for vertical | 14:35 |
EmilienM | and tripleo is vertial | 14:35 |
EmilienM | vertical* | 14:36 |
EmilienM | I proposed to do the tripleo sessions between Wednesday and Friday morning, so folks can travel on the afternoon | 14:36 |
EmilienM | the sessions on Friday morning won't be as critical as the ones on Wednesday & Thursday, so folks can also travel on Friday morning or even Thursday night if needed | 14:36 |
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EmilienM | how does it sound? Is 2 days enough? Do we need 3 days? | 14:36 |
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shardy | I think 2 days with Friday for any follow-up topics is enough | 14:37 |
EmilienM | yeah | 14:37 |
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EmilienM | I thought on Friday morning we could do more hands-on sessions | 14:37 |
EmilienM | if folks want to work together or do some hands on training, etc | 14:38 |
shardy | +1 sounds good to me | 14:38 |
EmilienM | cool | 14:38 |
EmilienM | anything feedback on ^ is welcome, on the thread or IRC (to me directly) | 14:38 |
EmilienM | thanks everyone, let's go back to work now ;-) | 14:38 |
EmilienM | #endmeeting | 14:38 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 6 14:38:51 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:38 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-06-06-14.00.html | 14:38 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-06-06-14.00.txt | 14:38 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-06-06-14.00.log.html | 14:38 |
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tmorin1 | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:24 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 6 15:24:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:24 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:24 |
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tmorin1 | hi everyone | 15:24 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:24 |
tmorin1 | sorry for starting late | 15:24 |
tmorin1 | let's see who is here | 15:24 |
tmorin1 | matrohon ? pcarver ? doude ? | 15:24 |
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pcarver | hi | 15:25 |
tmorin1 | hi paul | 15:25 |
pcarver | Totally lost track of time, but I guess I didn't miss much | 15:25 |
tmorin1 | I don't have an overwhelming amount of items that I see we should discuss today | 15:25 |
tmorin1 | we didn't even start | 15:25 |
tmorin1 | I was very late as well | 15:26 |
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tmorin1 | #topic bugs/gate | 15:26 |
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tmorin1 | not much to say here | 15:26 |
tmorin1 | we merged minor bugfixes | 15:26 |
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tmorin1 | including a change to pin our dependency to networking-odl, which was (again) causing our functional test to break | 15:26 |
tmorin1 | this is solved | 15:26 |
tmorin1 | details at : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471230/ | 15:27 |
tmorin1 | #topic BGPVPN port associations and static routes | 15:27 |
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tmorin1 | there have been useful/positive reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467277/ | 15:27 |
tmorin1 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467277/ | 15:27 |
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tmorin1 | my understanding is that all comments have been addressed | 15:27 |
tmorin1 | but I think that more reviews would be useful to have before we merge | 15:28 |
tmorin1 | I've asked Nuage folks to review | 15:28 |
tmorin1 | having feedback from ODL crowd would be nice as well | 15:28 |
pcarver | I plan to give it another look | 15:28 |
tmorin1 | pcarver: this will be welcome | 15:28 |
tmorin1 | there is one area where I think the doc is too implicit: what happens when a Port is associated to BGPVPNs and its Network is also associated to a different set of BGPVPNs... ? | 15:29 |
tmorin1 | my idea is that the Port should inherit, and hence end up being associated with all which is above it | 15:30 |
tmorin1 | and I think we could discuss generalizing this to Port/Network/Router | 15:30 |
pcarver | That seems like a logical approach | 15:30 |
tmorin1 | even though, until now, we have prevented doing both Network and Router associations | 15:30 |
tmorin1 | https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/networking/v2/#association-constraints | 15:30 |
tmorin1 | I think we may want to revisit this constraint | 15:31 |
tmorin1 | I'm not sure that the restriction is actually strongly relevant, and we know that it is actually hard to ensure this constraint in backends | 15:31 |
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tmorin1 | at least in some of them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1648510 | 15:31 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1648510 in networking-bgpvpn "Constraint enforcment might not work for contrail driver" [Undecided,New] | 15:31 |
tmorin1 | so well, food for thought... | 15:32 |
tmorin1 | pcarver: anything else to add ? | 15:32 |
pcarver | tmorin1: no, not really. I know there are a few Gerrit notifications from you in my inbox that I need to get to. | 15:32 |
tmorin1 | possible, I don't have any specific one in mind though | 15:33 |
tmorin1 | I've got (non network related) constraints today, so if nothing else, I would close the meeting.... ? | 15:33 |
tmorin1 | ok for you ? | 15:33 |
pcarver | sounds good | 15:33 |
tmorin1 | ok, thank you | 15:33 |
tmorin1 | let's follow up next week | 15:34 |
tmorin1 | bye! | 15:34 |
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tmorin1 | #endmeeting | 15:34 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 6 15:34:18 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:34 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-06-06-15.24.html | 15:34 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-06-06-15.24.txt | 15:34 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-06-06-15.24.log.html | 15:34 |
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felipemonteiro | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 6 17:00:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is felipemonteiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
felipemonteiro | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
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felipemonteiro | o/ | 17:01 |
kzaitsev_ | o/ | 17:01 |
kzaitsev_ | from my phone here :) | 17:01 |
felipemonteiro | kzaitsev_: nice | 17:02 |
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kzaitsev_ | my schedule shifted a bit so the meeting is now around the time I'm heading home :( | 17:02 |
felipemonteiro | shouldn't be a long meeting as this time is currently incovenient to many | 17:03 |
felipemonteiro | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468182/ | 17:03 |
felipemonteiro | linking for archives | 17:03 |
felipemonteiro | usually infra reviews really fast, hopefully it gets merged before next meeting | 17:03 |
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kzaitsev_ | well we can always just put that to ML and have next meeting on new time :) | 17:04 |
felipemonteiro | #topic Open Discussion | 17:04 |
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felipemonteiro | kzaitsev_: i was attempted but i didn't reschedule today because of worse case situation where another project did the same thing with another open review | 17:05 |
felipemonteiro | tempted* | 17:05 |
kzaitsev_ | this week is pike-2 week, so I'm going to request respective releases tomorrow | 17:05 |
felipemonteiro | thanks | 17:06 |
felipemonteiro | the policy stuff should be done before pike-3 | 17:06 |
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kzaitsev_99 | my connection may disappear for a couple of moments. will be better in a min | 17:06 |
felipemonteiro | wanted to ask you about api versioning in murano...i don't believe it's currently supported? | 17:08 |
kzaitsev_99 | I believe there was a letter, that all libraries should release before p-2 so there'll be client release also | 17:09 |
kzaitsev_99 | you mean micro-versions? | 17:09 |
felipemonteiro | yes, api wg will require it going forward for pretty much most api changes | 17:10 |
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kzaitsev_99 | well, generally no. i don't think we implemented micro versions | 17:10 |
felipemonteiro | something i'll look at for next release because many things in the api are unclear or inconsistent, imo it could undergo some cleaning up | 17:11 |
kzaitsev_99 | there probably was some discussion back in the day. but i don't think there ever was a bp or smth | 17:11 |
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felipemonteiro | also looks like freerunner is attempting to get murano ci to work with xenial? | 17:12 |
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kzaitsev_ | he's still with mirantis and in a different city than i am :) i'll try to ping him :) | 17:13 |
kzaitsev_ | to get some info | 17:14 |
kzaitsev_ | saw both yours and his CI patches. | 17:14 |
kzaitsev_ | also the cinder tests got super annoying lately :( | 17:15 |
felipemonteiro | i experimented with putting it in infra (for murano) but i don't think it's viable. i do believe it can be done with murano dashboard ci and splitting classes across multiple gates. | 17:15 |
felipemonteiro | haven't been focusing on it though because keep getting dragged into different things | 17:15 |
felipemonteiro | but if freerunner fixes murano ci internally that would be ideal | 17:16 |
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kzaitsev_ | freerunner: used to brag, he understands how to make infra run CI tests, but I never got down in the weeds of how to do that | 17:17 |
kzaitsev_ | :) | 17:17 |
felipemonteiro | yes, cinder tests have been. some functions in murano's tempest plugin might need to be looked at for proper clean up. some places even use deprecated functionality and other gotchas if i remember correctly. | 17:17 |
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felipemonteiro | kzaitsev_: did it for patrole, our company project, very annoying, but absolutely necessary for testing framework | 17:18 |
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felipemonteiro | don't know if you saw, pbourke also has a spec up | 17:19 |
felipemonteiro | i have yet to read through it, will try to get to it today | 17:20 |
kzaitsev_ | saw, reviewed a bit. need to go through the 2d ver | 17:20 |
kzaitsev_ | i'm mostly ok with it as long as it's optional. | 17:21 |
felipemonteiro | yes because it opts to use Castellan which is external resource | 17:21 |
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kzaitsev_ | ideally the encryption thing should be pluggable, so that we could get a dummy plugin or smth more complex | 17:22 |
felipemonteiro | although i believe that once implemented documentation should be written to encourage its use for obvious reasons | 17:22 |
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kzaitsev_ | although.. | 17:22 |
kzaitsev_ | no it's probably better not to tempt users :) if you want encryption — use Barbican :) if not — ok but not smth homebrewrd | 17:23 |
kzaitsev_ | will disappear for a sec | 17:24 |
felipemonteiro | i haven't looked through castellan project, i figured it was a wrapper around barbican and other storage back-ends | 17:25 |
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felipemonteiro | kzaitsev_: anything else for discussion? appears no one else is joining us this week | 17:30 |
kzaitsev_ | nope. | 17:31 |
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kzaitsev_ | was glad to hear from you :) | 17:31 |
felipemonteiro | same, thanks for joining and congrats on the new job at...samsung? | 17:32 |
kzaitsev_ | yeah :) | 17:32 |
felipemonteiro | will end a bit early then this week, hopefully our new meeting time gets approved for next week so we get better attendance | 17:33 |
kzaitsev_ | i keep my stackalytics account updated :) | 17:33 |
felipemonteiro | i was curious as to whether you were in russia to determine your time zone :) | 17:33 |
felipemonteiro | see you next wee | 17:34 |
felipemonteiro | k | 17:34 |
kzaitsev_ | yep i'm in moscow :) | 17:34 |
kzaitsev_ | k. see you :) | 17:34 |
felipemonteiro | #endmeeting | 17:35 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 6 17:35:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-06-06-17.00.html | 17:35 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-06-06-17.00.txt | 17:35 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-06-06-17.00.log.html | 17:35 |
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catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 6 19:00:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
pvaneck | o/ | 19:01 |
rockyg | o/ | 19:01 |
catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-06-06 | 19:01 |
mguiney | o/ | 19:01 |
catherineD | hi everyone | 19:02 |
catherineD | it should be a shiort meeting today | 19:02 |
catherineD | let's start | 19:02 |
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catherineD | #topic Next week IRC meeting | 19:03 |
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luzC | o/ | 19:03 |
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catherineD | Paul wll run the IRC meeting on June 13 and 20 | 19:04 |
catherineD | pvaneck: thanks for hosting the meetings | 19:04 |
pvaneck | yep :) | 19:05 |
catherineD | #topic Displaying RefStack documentation | 19:05 |
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catherineD | pvaneck: I guess we just need an other +2 on the last patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460746/ | 19:07 |
pvaneck | yea, will ask again soon | 19:07 |
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catherineD | pvaneck: thanks | 19:07 |
catherineD | #topic Tools to check whether test links in a spreadsheet are marked as verified in RefStack | 19:08 |
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mguiney | just about to push a patch for that now | 19:08 |
catherineD | mguiney: thanks! any thing we need to discuss ? | 19:09 |
mguiney | not a ton, decided to make the update success status logging an automatic thing rather than a flagged thing | 19:09 |
mguiney | because it's generally useful to have a record that you can go to for the last run, rather than needing to run the script again | 19:10 |
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mguiney | (once you realize things may have gone wrong, that is) | 19:11 |
catherineD | alright .. please ping if you need to discuss at the #refsack IRC | 19:12 |
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mguiney | o7 | 19:13 |
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catherineD | alright moving on | 19:15 |
catherineD | #topic Pending reviews | 19:16 |
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catherineD | #link Add scripts for running refstack-client in docker ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430701/ | 19:17 |
catherineD | so Anne had reviewed it still does not work on her Mac .. | 19:17 |
catherineD | it works for me on my Ubuntu ... I think for mguiney: too | 19:18 |
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catherineD | Chris mentioned last time that he can test on his Mac | 19:19 |
catherineD | I will ask him to review | 19:19 |
catherineD | mguiney: please mention this to Chris if you have a chance to talk to him | 19:20 |
catherineD | #link Add 'rm -f .testrepository/times.dbm' command in testenv ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459652/ ) | 19:21 |
mguiney | i will, should be talking to him later today | 19:22 |
catherineD | thanks | 19:22 |
hogepodge | o/ | 19:22 |
hogepodge | catherineD: I'll get on it | 19:22 |
catherineD | hogepodge: thank you ! I don't have a Mac env for the test ... | 19:23 |
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catherineD | for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459652/ I will contact Nitesh to make similar update to the one he did today | 19:25 |
catherineD | #link Added Defcore additional properties waiver https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370534/ | 19:26 |
luzC | needs some rework... on my pending list | 19:28 |
catherineD | luzC: do we still want to continue with this patch? | 19:28 |
catherineD | luzC: alright ... thanks | 19:29 |
luzC | that was my same question... not sure how often the waiver is being used... the rework might take a while, so if waiver is not in use, I can abandon the patch completely | 19:29 |
catherineD | luzC: ++ | 19:29 |
catherineD | hogepodge: your thought? | 19:29 |
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catherineD | luzC: How about bring this up for discussion on the Interop WG meeting tomorrow | 19:32 |
luzC | ok, sounds good | 19:33 |
luzC | I'll bring it there | 19:33 |
hogepodge | waiver isn't being used much | 19:33 |
hogepodge | not sure if it's going to be in effect much longer | 19:33 |
hogepodge | only one company has used it | 19:33 |
catherineD | ++ | 19:33 |
rockyg | I think it goes out with 2018.01? or 2017.08? | 19:34 |
rockyg | It was only for a year. | 19:34 |
catherineD | I thnk it will go out in 2017.08 ... if so it does not make sense to push this patch at RefStack... | 19:35 |
catherineD | let's confirm on that in tomorrow's meeting with the interop wg | 19:36 |
catherineD | moving on ... | 19:36 |
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catherineD | #Open discussion | 19:36 |
catherineD | any other topic to discuss? | 19:36 |
catherineD | hearing nothing. I think we can close up for the day | 19:39 |
rockyg | Just wanted to say there are acouple of *long* threads on dev on tempest, tempest plugins and the trademark programs | 19:39 |
rockyg | Of course, no one has thought to bring the interop ML into the discussions on the part that relates to trademark. | 19:39 |
rockyg | And there are assumptions that interopWG is aware of and remembers a couple of TC resolutions about what can be included in the guidelines and TM | 19:40 |
mguiney | on the forums, or? | 19:40 |
rockyg | On the dev ML | 19:41 |
mguiney | ahhhh makes sense | 19:41 |
mguiney | sorry, didnt pick that up on first read | 19:41 |
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rockyg | Yeah. It seems that some think InteropWG can't add any projects that aren't in some dev list that is part of an old resolution. Others think it has to have some tag. And the location of the tests also become an issue. | 19:42 |
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rockyg | Because of one of the old resolutions saying all defcore tests need to be in tempest. | 19:43 |
catherineD | rockyg: should Interop WG discuss that in tomorrow's meeting to evaluate the impact? | 19:43 |
rockyg | Oh, and interop WG doesn't add or modify many tests. So, slackers | 19:43 |
rockyg | Yes, we should. I'm going to post an email to the interop list with links to the threads, but if anyone else gets there first, great! | 19:44 |
catherineD | rockyg: ++ | 19:45 |
catherineD | anything else? | 19:45 |
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catherineD | ok let's close the meeting | 19:46 |
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catherineD | thank you all! | 19:46 |
rockyg | Thanks! | 19:47 |
catherineD | have a good day ! bye! | 19:47 |
catherineD | #endmeeting | 19:47 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 6 19:47:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:47 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-06-06-19.00.html | 19:47 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-06-06-19.00.txt | 19:47 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-06-06-19.00.log.html | 19:47 |
mguiney | have a good day, y'all! | 19:48 |
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