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| edleafe | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 17 14:00:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
| jaypipes | o../ | 14:00 |
| edleafe | Anyone around? | 14:00 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 14:00 |
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| * bauzas waves hand | 14:02 | |
| cdent | o/ | 14:02 |
| * edleafe waves foot | 14:02 | |
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| cdent | i took me many seconds to go from /join to joined | 14:02 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: going all Daniel Day Lewis today? | 14:02 |
| * cdent shakes his tired tiny fist once more | 14:02 | |
| edleafe | ok, let's get started | 14:02 |
| edleafe | #topic Specs & Reviews | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs & Reviews (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:03 | |
| edleafe | #link Amend spec for Custom Resource Classes in Flavors https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481748/ | 14:03 |
| edleafe | This seems ok, but still a little fuzzy on the details | 14:03 |
| jaypipes | I read through your comments, edleafe. | 14:03 |
| edleafe | I'm working on the code for this, but it seems setting up a devstack on a VM to think it's running Ironic is no small thing | 14:03 |
| jaypipes | I'm wondering if I can help clarify anything for you on there? | 14:04 |
| jaypipes | Matt has responded to you, but we can discuss your remaining concerns here. | 14:04 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: it wasn't clear that the flavor for the instance wouldn't have the extra_specs in it | 14:04 |
| dtantsur | any help with ironic needed? /me did not quite understand the comment above | 14:05 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: you mean for *existing* instances? | 14:05 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: also, I figured out the whole node name confusion (I think) | 14:05 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: well, yeah - that's the only thing the spec is concerned with | 14:05 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: k, are you clear on that now though? you mentioned still being a little fuzzy on some things. | 14:06 |
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| edleafe | IOW, I didn't know if the update that the operators did to flavors was propagated to existing instances | 14:06 |
| jaypipes | ah. | 14:06 |
| jaypipes | no, it definitely is not. | 14:06 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: the wording in the spec is fuzzy. I've since figure a bunch out | 14:06 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: I could use some help testing ironic behavior with only a devstack VM | 14:07 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: k. what's the remaining fuzziness we can help with? | 14:07 |
| dtantsur | edleafe: sure, ping me after the meeting | 14:07 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: ok, will do | 14:07 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: it's the wording of the spec, not my brain | 14:07 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: heh, I know. and I'm asking how we can reword the spec to make it more clear. | 14:08 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: I guess that's not a big priority, is it? | 14:08 |
| jaypipes | not sure... | 14:08 |
| jaypipes | would be good to get the spec amendment finalized and agree on its clarity. | 14:08 |
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| edleafe | I know what I need to do. Now to fo it... | 14:08 |
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| edleafe | do it, even | 14:09 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: that's good with me, then. | 14:09 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: if you want I could try to push a revision to the spec | 14:09 |
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| bauzas | tbh, I'd love to make sure we can land something about custom RCs for Pike | 14:09 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: go for it. | 14:09 |
| bauzas | the spec being amended or not doesn't seem to me super urgent | 14:09 |
| cdent | bauzas: a good spec makes it a lot easier to review the code | 14:10 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: agreed. code is more important. as long as edleafe is clear, I'm good. | 14:10 |
| bauzas | cdent: sure, I'm talking of merging that spec amendment | 14:10 |
| edleafe | ok, maybe I can revise it once I get working code | 14:10 |
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| edleafe | Let's move on | 14:10 |
| edleafe | #link Claims in the Scheduler - sereis starting with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483564/ | 14:10 |
| cdent | edleafe++ | 14:10 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: status update? | 14:10 |
| bauzas | edleafe: tbh, I'll review your implementation changes | 14:10 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: bottom two patches in that series are approved. just fixing up the p_sums thing now in the third. | 14:11 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: reviews on the final patch in that series that does the claiming would be great | 14:11 |
| edleafe | great - thanks for fixing that | 14:12 |
| * bauzas shakes his boots | 14:12 | |
| edleafe | next up: | 14:12 |
| edleafe | #link Devstack to use resource classes by default https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476968/ | 14:12 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: anything to say about that one? | 14:12 |
| dtantsur | I was out for 2 weeks, so not really, sorry | 14:14 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: ok, ping us in -nova if we can help | 14:14 |
| edleafe | #link Update allocation-candidates.yaml for gabbi 1.35 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484356/ | 14:14 |
| dtantsur | sure, I'll get to it eventually | 14:14 |
| jaypipes | dtantsur: pfft. they let you take vacation?! | 14:14 |
| edleafe | That looks straightforward enough | 14:15 |
| dtantsur | jaypipes: naive people, right? | 14:15 |
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| edleafe | next up: | 14:15 |
| edleafe | #link Add traits to the ResourceProviders filters https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474602/ | 14:15 |
| edleafe | That's largely on hold until the AllocationCandidate stuff merges | 14:16 |
| jaypipes | dtantsur: :) | 14:16 |
| edleafe | Then I can probably duplicate the code there, since they are essentially the same query | 14:16 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: doesn't really need to be, though... | 14:16 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: meaning the resource providers query stuff can be reviewed and merged since it's not used by claims in the scheduler but is still useful. | 14:17 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: sure, but it would simplify reviewing to have them together | 14:17 |
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| jaypipes | understood. | 14:17 |
| edleafe | and since it isn't in the critical path, no rush | 14:18 |
| edleafe | moving on | 14:18 |
| edleafe | #link Nested Resource Providers - series starting with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470575/ | 14:18 |
| edleafe | Still in a coma | 14:18 |
| edleafe | :) | 14:18 |
| jaypipes | indeed. | 14:18 |
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| edleafe | next up: | 14:19 |
| edleafe | #link Traits support in the Allocation Candidates https://review.openstack.org/478464/ | 14:19 |
| edleafe | I haven't had a chance to review this yet. Is it a dupe of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474602/? | 14:19 |
| edleafe | IOW, could that be the AllocCand version of the RP version? | 14:20 |
| edleafe | if so, we should ensure that they are working the same way | 14:20 |
| jaypipes | agreed | 14:20 |
| jaypipes | or, frankly, it looks like both patches could build on a common patch that adds support for a helper method that returns all resource providers having all traits in a list. | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | similar to the _get_all_shared_with() helper method. | 14:21 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: yeah, I was thinking something like that | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: instead of both patches adding what amounts to the same subquery. | 14:22 |
| edleafe | but without first seeing the code, I didn't want to assume | 14:22 |
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| jaypipes | yeah, I'll review both. | 14:22 |
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| edleafe | ok, great | 14:22 |
| alex_xu | a common patch return a subquery? | 14:22 |
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| edleafe | yes, since we need to add a filter for traits in both | 14:23 |
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| jaypipes | alex_xu: a common patch that returns a list of resource provider IDs would be my preference instead of making the _get_all_with_shared() function even bigger. but I'll comment on the patches. | 14:23 |
| alex_xu | ah, I see | 14:23 |
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| alex_xu | jaypipes: ok, thanks | 14:23 |
| edleafe | Last up on the agenda: | 14:24 |
| edleafe | #link Placement api-ref docs https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:cd/placement-api-ref+status:open | 14:24 |
| edleafe | Looks like steady progress there | 14:24 |
| jaypipes | yup | 14:24 |
| jaypipes | slow but steady | 14:24 |
| edleafe | Anything else for specs and/or reviews? | 14:25 |
| jaypipes | not from me. | 14:25 |
| cdent | I wanted to ask about that bug fix I did: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484162/ | 14:25 |
| cdent | for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1704574 | 14:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1704574 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "[placement] attempt to put allocation to resource provide that does not host class of resource causes 500" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Chris Dent (cdent) | 14:25 |
| cdent | not sure about the completeness or location of the fix | 14:25 |
| edleafe | wait your turn!!!! | 14:25 |
| edleafe | #topic Bugs | 14:26 |
| edleafe | #link Placement bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement | 14:26 |
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| edleafe | #link fix 500 error when allocating to bad class https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704574 | 14:26 |
| edleafe | #link Proposed fix for 1704574 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484162/ | 14:26 |
| cdent | I never understand these topics. | 14:26 |
| * edleafe mutters about cdent jumping the gun | 14:26 | |
| cdent | other story of my life | 14:26 |
| edleafe | Do you want to summarize your concern about the fix? | 14:27 |
| cdent | there’s three concerns, I guess: | 14:28 |
| cdent | a) I don’t understand why the other sanity checks on the data aren’t catching the problem | 14:28 |
| cdent | b) it seems like the early set() checks might be capable of also checking for this problem | 14:29 |
| cdent | c) ed identified yet another KeyError that may also need more effective handling | 14:29 |
| cdent | a) is probably more correctly stated as “why didn’t we already see this?” | 14:29 |
| jaypipes | cdent: reviewed. | 14:29 |
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| edleafe | cdent: guess we haven't wandered too far from the happy path | 14:30 |
| cdent | (sorry my internets are being very slow) | 14:31 |
| cdent | jaypipes: those uuids are the result of uuidgen, they are just in there because in ‘latest’ microversion we need them | 14:31 |
| edleafe | cdent: but if you put in some nonsense uuid like 'aaaaa-aaaa-...' would it still work? | 14:32 |
| jaypipes | cdent: k | 14:32 |
| cdent | jaypipes: can you explain why the issue only shows up when there are at least two resoure classes (one of them bad)? | 14:32 |
| edleafe | IOW, is there anything 'magical' about those uuids? | 14:32 |
| cdent | edleafe: no, they are uuids | 14:32 |
| cdent | I don’t understand what is being asked? | 14:33 |
| edleafe | cdent: I meant "defined elsewhere and need to match that other definition" | 14:33 |
| cdent | no, that’s why I’m using static uuids instead of $ENVIRON | 14:34 |
| jaypipes | cdent: I'm looking at that now... not sure off top of my head. | 14:35 |
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| jaypipes | cdent: also, shouldn't these be 400s not 409s? | 14:36 |
| cdent | in any case, that change is a good example of what I’m intending to do while you guys are doing the meat: searching for bugs, edges, etc | 14:36 |
| jaypipes | no, I guess 409 is appropriate. the structure of the request is correct. | 14:36 |
| cdent | jaypipes: I thought that too, but was trying to be consistent with the 409s that were already there and could not decide | 14:36 |
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| cdent | I _think_ 409 is saying “the resource’s state of inventory is not aligned with what you are asking for" | 14:37 |
| jaypipes | right | 14:37 |
| jaypipes | and like I said, the request structure is proper, so 400 isn't appropriate. | 14:37 |
| edleafe | 409 seems OK, as long as it has a good error message so we can distinguish the different failures | 14:38 |
| edleafe | So... anything else on bugs? | 14:39 |
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| jaypipes | cdent: ah... I figured it out. | 14:40 |
| bauzas | folks, I'll need to bail out in a very few | 14:40 |
| edleafe | ok bauzas | 14:40 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/480379 | 14:41 |
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| alex_xu | ^ just waiting for review | 14:41 |
| alex_xu | oops, there is commment from ken'ichi | 14:41 |
| edleafe | ok, thanks for the link alex_xu. Added to my review list | 14:42 |
| alex_xu | edleafe: thanks | 14:42 |
| jaypipes | cdent: line 1600 adds providers with *any inventory of any requested resource* to the provs_with_inv set. however, if that provider only has some and not all of the inventory requested, it passes the check in lines 1602-1608 but will fail the check on line 1616 | 14:42 |
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| jaypipes | cdent: so, before your patch, if you were to try allocating for two resource classes, neither of which existed for a resource provider, you'd get back the 409 result. | 14:43 |
| jaypipes | cdent: it's just when you request two resource classes and one of them actually does exist that the 500 is returned | 14:43 |
| jaypipes | alex_xu: ah, yeah, I will re-review that patch as well. | 14:44 |
| alex_xu | jaypipes: thanks | 14:44 |
| cdent | jaypipes: yeah, that’s what I surmised, but couldn’t think of a good way to catch it in the earlier block (especially not on sunday’s brain) | 14:44 |
| jaypipes | heh, yeah :) | 14:44 |
| jaypipes | ok, folks, I need to run to a dentist appt. fun! | 14:45 |
| jaypipes | ciao | 14:45 |
| edleafe | Then let's move on to... | 14:45 |
| edleafe | #topic Open discussion | 14:45 |
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| edleafe | got anything to discuss? | 14:45 |
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| ralonsoh | not for discussion, but a request, if possible: | 14:46 |
| ralonsoh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449257/ | 14:46 |
| ralonsoh | and the following patch | 14:46 |
| ralonsoh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451777/ | 14:46 |
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| ralonsoh | To modify the pci_passthough filter | 14:47 |
| edleafe | #link Neutron port patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449257/ | 14:47 |
| ralonsoh | Reviews will be welcome | 14:47 |
| edleafe | #link Another Neutron port patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451777/ | 14:47 |
| edleafe | ralonsoh: thanks - added to the review queue | 14:48 |
| cdent | me too | 14:48 |
| ralonsoh | thanks! | 14:48 |
| edleafe | Anyone have anything else? | 14:49 |
| cdent | no sir | 14:49 |
| edleafe | ok, then, enjoy the rest of what's left of your day! And maybe even the day after that! | 14:50 |
| edleafe | #endmeeting | 14:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 17 14:50:51 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-07-17-14.00.html | 14:50 |
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| lennyb | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 17 15:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lennyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| jeblair | any zuul folks around? | 22:00 |
| fungi | heyhey kids! | 22:00 |
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| pabelanger | present | 22:00 |
| clarkb | I'm sort of here | 22:00 |
| Shrews | o/ | 22:01 |
| fungi | alt.meeting.openstack | 22:01 |
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| jeblair | #startmeeting zuul | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 17 22:02:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zuul' | 22:02 |
| jeblair | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zuul | 22:02 |
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| jeblair | #link previous meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-07-10-22.02.html | 22:02 |
| jeblair | #topic Announcements | 22:03 |
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| jeblair | i reckon since the "roll out near/at PTG" plan garnered good feedback at the infra meeting last week, we should probably suggest that interested zuul folks plan on being at the ptg | 22:04 |
| fungi | i'll be there! | 22:04 |
| jeblair | mordred, fungi: that sound about right to you? | 22:04 |
| fungi | totally | 22:04 |
| Shrews | Have we decided on a day? I saw suggestions of doing it the weekend before, which might necessitate arriving earlier | 22:04 |
| jeblair | there's a page here | 22:04 |
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| jeblair | #link openstack ptg https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 22:04 |
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| pabelanger | working on manager approval now | 22:05 |
| clarkb | I think there are other meetings that people will be distracted by on the weekend before | 22:05 |
| clarkb | board/tc things | 22:05 |
| jeblair | Shrews: i don't think so | 22:05 |
| fungi | yeah, i'm flying in saturday and sequestered with the tc/uc/bod all sunday | 22:05 |
| jeblair | clarkb: heh, is that an argument for or against doing it on the weekend? ;) | 22:05 |
| fungi | but don't let my absence those days stop a good plan if others are available | 22:06 |
| clarkb | fungi: as would be mordred I expect | 22:06 |
| jeblair | Shrews: yeah, sounds like we should seek clarity asap. | 22:06 |
| jeblair | mordred: thoughts? | 22:06 |
| fungi | in all honesty, i'm likely one of the least useful people to a zuul cut-over since i've been spending my time trying to make sure the rest of you are free to focus on zuul development... but i'm happy to help when i'm around/undistracted | 22:07 |
| mordred | jeblair: I will have the board/tc thing ... but I doubt I'll be very distracted by it | 22:08 |
| pabelanger | Ya, I'm sure I could fly in a day or so early too | 22:08 |
| mordred | which is to say - I'll be available whenever I need to be available other than the specific board/tc overlap hours | 22:08 |
| pabelanger | if we are going that route | 22:08 |
| jeblair | mordred: can you work on a proposal for timing for us to discuss this week? | 22:09 |
| fungi | mordred: keep in mind the board/tc overlap hours are like 9am-5pm sunday or something like that. it's not our usual half-day joint thing we do at the summit | 22:09 |
| mordred | fwiw - the cutover ITSELF should be take less time than a gerrit upgrade - prepping to make sure we're comfortable with the process and then fielding human interaction and fixing things we missed after is, I think, going to be the bulk of the work | 22:09 |
| mordred | jeblair: yes, I can | 22:09 |
| mordred | fungi: oh - good point | 22:09 |
| jeblair | that way we're not under pressure to make a snap decision right now, but we should make a decision soon since it affects travel plans | 22:10 |
| mordred | ++ | 22:10 |
| jeblair | #action mordred propose ptg-related cutover timeline | 22:10 |
| jeblair | mordred: thanks! | 22:10 |
| mordred | \o/ | 22:10 |
| jeblair | #topic Actions from last meeting | 22:10 |
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| jeblair | jlk add meat to github docs re app setup and depends-on | 22:11 |
| jeblair | i don't think that happened yet? | 22:11 |
| jeblair | but jlk is on vacation, so he's off the hook | 22:12 |
| jeblair | #action jlk add meat to github docs re app setup and depends-on | 22:12 |
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| jeblair | #action jeblair make anchors for keywords | 22:12 |
| jeblair | that ^ also hasn't happened | 22:12 |
| jeblair | mordred add v3 doc link to readme | 22:12 |
| mordred | I remember doing that? | 22:12 |
| jeblair | yes! that happened! | 22:12 |
| mordred | \o/ | 22:12 |
| * mordred getting stuff done | 22:12 | |
| jeblair | mordred make infra init script for zuul-web in puppet-zuul | 22:12 |
| pabelanger | think I seen that | 22:13 |
| fungi | sounds like a useful thing to have | 22:13 |
| jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/482889 | 22:13 |
| pabelanger | I did https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471456/ a while back too | 22:14 |
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| jeblair | cool, let's see if we infra-core folks can get that landed | 22:14 |
| jeblair | i'd really like to see the web console streaming :) | 22:14 |
| fungi | starred | 22:14 |
| mordred | I need to fix cmurphy's feedback on the followup too | 22:14 |
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| jeblair | #topic Status Updates: Standard job library | 22:14 |
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| clarkb | re init scripts we should be thinking about moving away from kill -9 | 22:14 |
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| mordred | clarkb: yah - that's on the list | 22:14 |
| jeblair | i'll go first here: | 22:15 |
| jeblair | i've updated the openstack base job to be slightly less insane | 22:15 |
| jeblair | we now pass the log url back to zuul from ansible | 22:15 |
| jeblair | which is really cool as it means we don't have to do double-entry bookeeping in both the job definition and the job itself | 22:16 |
| mordred | yay! | 22:16 |
| jeblair | *eventually* that will let us have a base job definition with log publishing in zuul-jobs, but it doesn't quite make sense yet | 22:16 |
| jeblair | i think in order for it to make sense there, we also have to have site-local variables | 22:16 |
| jeblair | so that we can parameterize things like "the log host's name", etc, in the base job | 22:17 |
| jeblair | (also, we may want to add other methods of log publishing to the base job, and parameterize the use of those) | 22:17 |
| jeblair | however, i always expect sites to be able to override the base job with their own implementation | 22:17 |
| jeblair | which is what we're doing now | 22:17 |
| jeblair | so i've but a simplified base job in zuul-jobs, which just does the git repo setup, but not log copying | 22:18 |
| jeblair | and openstack overrides that in project-config with a version which adds log copying | 22:18 |
| jeblair | so we're demonstrating that facility at least | 22:18 |
| jeblair | i think i'm done touching that for a while, at lest until site-local vars lands | 22:19 |
| fungi | very cool! | 22:19 |
| pabelanger | indeed | 22:19 |
| mordred | good. I'm glad that the number of places to look for content is much smaller with that shift landed too | 22:19 |
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| jeblair | yeah, openstack-zuul-roles is about to be emptied out | 22:20 |
| mordred | and the times when it's somewhere else are exptremely specific | 22:20 |
| jeblair | so we're basically just project-config, zuul-jobs, and openstack-zuul-jobs now | 22:20 |
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| fungi | 3 is better than 4 | 22:20 |
| jeblair | and all the roles used by our base job in project-config are actually in zuul-jobs | 22:20 |
| fungi | there's a zuul-base-jobs too right? | 22:20 |
| mordred | yup. and the majority of jobs people will be most likely to look at more frequently will be in openstack-zuul-jobs | 22:20 |
| pabelanger | for sure, I was finding myself grepping alot of git repos | 22:20 |
| mordred | fungi: that's zuul-jobs | 22:20 |
| mordred | pabelanger: ++ | 22:20 |
| jeblair | fungi: yes, but we're not using it either at the moment | 22:20 |
| mordred | ah | 22:21 |
| fungi | just making sure | 22:21 |
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| jeblair | it *was* going to hold the base job before we invented config shadowing | 22:21 |
| fungi | we gave ourselves... lots of options for places to put this stuff | 22:21 |
| pabelanger | fungi: ya | 22:21 |
| mordred | yup. turns out spreading across tons of repos is not advantageous :) | 22:21 |
| jeblair | yeah, we should go through and leave closed signs on some of these repos soon | 22:21 |
| mordred | ++ | 22:21 |
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| jeblair | spreading out over the right number is :) | 22:21 |
| mordred | yup | 22:21 |
| fungi | i have an infra meeting topic about retiring some unused repos, i can add those to the list | 22:22 |
| jeblair | mordred: how goes the unittest, etc work? | 22:22 |
| mordred | I think we can explain the three places now - (four if you count 'in each project' as a place) | 22:22 |
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| mordred | jeblair: pabelanger has some patches up I owe him reviews on ... I've dived down the logging hole because debugging some of the jobs was getting annoying | 22:22 |
| pabelanger | I have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483936/ up for review too, which moves some openstack specific things into openstack-zuul-jobs | 22:22 |
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| jeblair | mordred: *nod*. i think 2001105 and 2001106 (report executor errors back to users) is the next high priority punchlist item | 22:24 |
| jeblair | mordred: the build log has gotten a lot better. thanks pabelanger too. :) | 22:25 |
| jeblair | i think once we get the json return out of it, it'll be shiny. | 22:25 |
| pabelanger | Ya, much eaiser to read now | 22:25 |
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| jeblair | anyone have anything else to say on this? | 22:26 |
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| pabelanger | I'll be pusing more tox changes up tomorrow | 22:26 |
| mordred | nope. | 22:26 |
| pabelanger | so reviews will be helpful | 22:26 |
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| jeblair | pabelanger, mordred: thanks! | 22:27 |
| jeblair | #topic Status Updates: (web) console streaming | 22:27 |
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| jeblair | i would have segued to this earlier if i were a better meeting chair | 22:27 |
| jeblair | anyway, we have an init script in progress | 22:27 |
| jeblair | we also need a client page | 22:28 |
| jeblair | did tobiash's sample page land, or did that get turned into the serve static html change? | 22:28 |
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| mordred | it's still in work | 22:29 |
| mordred | tobiash and I each have versions up | 22:29 |
| Shrews | https://review.openstack.org/483503 | 22:29 |
| mordred | the next step is to combine elements of each | 22:29 |
| mordred | which tobias has said he'll do when he gets back in on wednesday if I don't get to it before then | 22:29 |
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| jeblair | Shrews: ah thanks | 22:30 |
| mordred | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483947/ is the other one | 22:30 |
| mordred | so I tihnk we're close on that one | 22:30 |
| jeblair | and https://review.openstack.org/481599 was the other other one i guess | 22:30 |
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| jeblair | that's the one i was thinking about | 22:30 |
| mordred | yes - the final result will be a synthesis of those three patches | 22:31 |
| Shrews | jeblair: 599 should probably be abandoned. wrong direction on that one | 22:31 |
| jeblair | Shrews: it is already abandoned! | 22:31 |
| jeblair | though it is the parent of 947 | 22:31 |
| mordred | we need to squash | 22:32 |
| Shrews | jeblair: such efficiency (/me forgot) | 22:32 |
| jeblair | okay, so the way forward is for mordred and/or tobias to combine all that stuff, hopefully around the middle of the week | 22:32 |
| mordred | one of the new wrinkles we learned is that tobias has to run his websocket server on a different host | 22:33 |
| mordred | or, through a different proxy/domain more specifically | 22:33 |
| jeblair | the main question i wanted to raise was whether there was something simple we could do in the interim so we could at least try it, but it sounds like that's not the best path forward. | 22:33 |
| mordred | I've got a document started with that captured, as well as other things from this, that I'll try to get out by mid-week too | 22:33 |
| mordred | jeblair: we're really close - and once the websocket server is runing, one should be able to host the static file locally for a hacky version | 22:34 |
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| mordred | it seems websockets do not have the CORS restrictions | 22:34 |
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| mordred | so once the zuul-web is running, it shoudl be possible, if annoying, to play with it | 22:35 |
| jeblair | mordred: can you clarify? should we aim to get the websocket server running then host a static file locally? or should we push ahead with you and tobiash's change? | 22:35 |
| mordred | jeblair: we should push forward with the current changes | 22:35 |
| mordred | they're very close | 22:35 |
| mordred | I'm just saying that with the zuul-web puppet already in flight, there will be a thing running that one could physically poke at and stream content from should one choose between the time that starts existing and the time we get the patch finished | 22:36 |
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| jeblair | mordred: okay, my original question was whether we should attempt to do that or not, which is why i asked whether there was a simple static file we could put in place to do that | 22:36 |
| jeblair | but i'm still getting mixed messages on whether that's worth doing | 22:36 |
| mordred | gotcha. no. it is not | 22:36 |
| jeblair | mordred: how about we aim to get the websocket server running by wednesday, so when the new thing lands, we'll be ready to use it? | 22:37 |
| mordred | yes | 22:37 |
| jeblair | yay! a plan is planned! | 22:37 |
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| jeblair | anything else on console streaming? web or otherwise? | 22:37 |
| * fungi loves it when a plan comes together | 22:38 | |
| jeblair | #topic Status Updates: Zuul test enablement | 22:38 |
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| jeblair | i haven't done anything on this | 22:38 |
| pabelanger | same | 22:39 |
| jeblair | but maybe i should switch to this and get it off the agenda, if other folks have lost interest in it. | 22:39 |
| jeblair | #topic Should we continue allowing use of hostname for unique builder ID, or simply force use of UUID? (Shrews) | 22:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Should we continue allowing use of hostname for unique builder ID, or simply force use of UUID? (Shrews) (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:40 | |
| jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/484414 | 22:40 |
| Shrews | did a thing in 414 that got that off my "should-be-done-at-some-point" list | 22:40 |
| Shrews | based on suggestions from jeblair and SpamapS | 22:40 |
| fungi | uuid seems more consistent with the rest of what we have for ids of other components | 22:41 |
| jeblair | w00t | 22:41 |
| Shrews | pabelanger suggested that maybe we shouldn't support using hostname at all. i can find no argument against this | 22:41 |
| Shrews | but wanted concensus on it before i made it so | 22:41 |
| jeblair | i vote: force the use of uuid and make it automatic and (nearly) invisible. :) | 22:41 |
| jeblair | (except i like your transition plan) | 22:41 |
| mordred | ++ | 22:42 |
| jeblair | (so keep the hostname comparison in there for a release) | 22:42 |
| fungi | as long as there is a means to map them to one another for translating between nova and zuul/nodepool i have no problem with not having hostnames all over the place | 22:42 |
| * SpamapS ponders | 22:42 | |
| Shrews | jeblair: with your suggestion to use images-dir, we don't even need to add a new config option, so should be very transparent | 22:42 |
| SpamapS | So, if we want to be really careful about data models and such... | 22:43 |
| SpamapS | there should be a hostname and an id field | 22:43 |
| clarkb | ++ | 22:43 |
| SpamapS | and the hostname should only mean something if there's no ID. | 22:43 |
| clarkb | re SpamapS suggestion becuse humans want a hostname | 22:43 |
| SpamapS | (basically versioning the schema) | 22:43 |
| Shrews | SpamapS: yep, that was suggested by jeblair and i have a PS that adds that | 22:43 |
| SpamapS | and yeah, keep it there so we can see it. | 22:43 |
| mordred | ++ | 22:43 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: I'd keep using it but just for humans | 22:43 |
| jeblair | fungi: 414 addresses identifying image builders, so not changing anything about nodes | 22:44 |
| mordred | yah - unless someone has a bunch of builder servers all named darkstar | 22:44 |
| Shrews | the new hostname field will basically be decorative | 22:44 |
| SpamapS | That's up to them. :) | 22:44 |
| mordred | hostnames are much better for reporting :) | 22:44 |
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| Shrews | let me rephrase, the builder will not use the new hostname field :) | 22:44 |
| jeblair | and since we're just adding a field, we get to kick the "zookeeper data model versioning and upgrade" can down the road some more! | 22:44 |
| SpamapS | oh, I"m suggesting that the new field not be the same one we used to put the hostname in. | 22:44 |
| SpamapS | so that may be slightly different | 22:45 |
| SpamapS | I don't like changing the meaning of data fields. | 22:45 |
| Shrews | SpamapS: node.builder will still be used for matching. node.hostname will be just the hostname | 22:45 |
| fungi | oh, i should have looked closer. so uuids of builders instead of hostnames of builders. still seems reasonable as long as there's some means of reporting or otherwise looking up the hostname | 22:45 |
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| clarkb | fungi: I think we just keep the hostname field and populate it as we do today | 22:46 |
| Shrews | and node.builder will contain the UUID | 22:46 |
| SpamapS | Shrews: yeah, I'm suggesting you leave .builder alone, and add .builder_id | 22:46 |
| clarkb | fungi: we just don't use it for the comparison to check ownership of an image | 22:46 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: ya that | 22:46 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: ++ | 22:46 |
| fungi | wfm | 22:46 |
| Shrews | SpamapS: ah, i see. ya, we can do that | 22:46 |
| SpamapS | and then if there's no .builder_id, we fall back to old semantics in new code. Old code keeps working the same. | 22:46 |
| SpamapS | and as jeblair says... can goes down the road | 22:47 |
| SpamapS | (nobody likes that can anyway) | 22:47 |
| jeblair | i'm really excited about writing the equivalent of alembic for zookeeper. | 22:47 |
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| fungi | yeesh | 22:48 |
| Shrews | ok, we have a decision on this topic. thx all | 22:48 |
| Shrews | jeblair: i'm excited about you writing that too! :) | 22:48 |
| jeblair | #topic Open Discussion | 22:48 |
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| jeblair | free for all! | 22:49 |
| Shrews | o | 22:49 |
| Shrews | oops | 22:49 |
| jeblair | earlier today in infra, we got a question from an openstack developer about secrets | 22:49 |
| clarkb | I'm hoping to be back to the real world next week where I will be setting up a zuul v2.5 and v3 on review-dev to test gerrit 2.13.9. I will run both with tobiash's fix which seems sane at first glance | 22:49 |
| Shrews | i'll give you an open topic for discussion: zuulv3 stickers for ptg.... discuss | 22:49 |
| jeblair | and the answer was "yes, we have implemented that, and it works like this and should do what you need on day 1 of our rollout" | 22:50 |
| jeblair | and i think that marks a nice transition from "oh yeah we're totally going to do that later" which is what our answers have been. | 22:50 |
| fungi | it was awesome | 22:50 |
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| pabelanger | Shrews: I'm working to find a zuul t-shirt | 22:50 |
| pabelanger | Shrews: also, yes | 22:50 |
| clarkb | Shrews: pabelanger zuul is a dinosaur now btw | 22:51 |
| clarkb | which may make for good mascot | 22:51 |
| pabelanger | indeed | 22:51 |
| fungi | destroyer of shins! | 22:51 |
| jeblair | mascot *and* motto all in one | 22:51 |
| fungi | also the nickname of our youngest cat, who loves to shred my shins for inexplicable reasons | 22:51 |
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| SpamapS | speaking of day 1 | 22:51 |
| SpamapS | There's this PTG coming up | 22:51 |
| jeblair | clarkb: cool, thanks -- should we work on merging tobiash's change or you want to poke some more first? | 22:51 |
| SpamapS | last PTG was like, a turbo boost 5-day-energy shot for Zuul dev | 22:52 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i believe it has both master and zuulv3 versions now | 22:52 |
| clarkb | jeblair: it does | 22:52 |
| fungi | this one will be turbo boost 5-day-energy shot for zuul configs? ;) | 22:52 |
| mordred | that's what I'm imagining | 22:52 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I think we can work on merging both cahnges, at first glance it seems a direct way to solve the problem with little ambiguity | 22:53 |
| clarkb | zuul and gerrit must agree case sensitvely | 22:53 |
| jeblair | clarkb: cool | 22:53 |
| fungi | clarkb: oh, so you were able to confirm you see the issue on 2.13? | 22:53 |
| clarkb | fungi: no I haven't yet, but I trust tobiash | 22:54 |
| clarkb | actually we could ask wmf | 22:54 |
| clarkb | if we want more input | 22:54 |
| SpamapS | Well I'm just wondering if there's something we want to make sure we have ready before PTG.. so we can maybe broaden the effort and have lots of infra-eyes on zuulv3 | 22:55 |
| SpamapS | The current pace of role/job def looks good, so maybe we're already on track. | 22:55 |
| mordred | SpamapS: I feel like maybe you may have missed the top of the meeting? | 22:55 |
| SpamapS | Oh yes I did | 22:56 |
| SpamapS | overlap and such. I'll scroll back and you can pretend I said this then. | 22:56 |
| mordred | SpamapS: tl;dr tenantive plan is to go live with full transition of opentsack to zuul v3 at teh beginning of the PTG or immediately before | 22:56 |
| mordred | SpamapS: so - I verymuch agree with you :) | 22:56 |
| SpamapS | oh and now I need to read infra logs too.. yeah. :) | 22:56 |
| mordred | \o/ | 22:56 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv3-migration | 22:56 |
| fungi | yeah, we talked about it last week in the infra team meeting | 22:57 |
| SpamapS | been a bit distracted of late, so hopefully I can contribute as we get closer | 22:57 |
| pabelanger | pre-PTG FTW | 22:57 |
| jeblair | to be fair, we do need to send that out as an email :) | 22:57 |
| mordred | oh yeah. I'll put that on mylist | 22:57 |
| fungi | yes! ml or it didn't happen ;) | 22:57 |
| mordred | fungi, jeblair: infra list for now, dev list once we've more firm on the date? | 22:57 |
| jeblair | probably a good thing to do after we've thought through the exact logistics of a date a bit more (re: earlier discussion in this meeting) | 22:57 |
| fungi | i'll do a general ptg planning thread too | 22:57 |
| mordred | jeblair: jinx | 22:58 |
| fungi | mordred: sounds good | 22:58 |
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| jeblair | thanks everyone, and enjoy your near-minute of extra time! | 22:59 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 22:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 17 22:59:31 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-07-17-22.02.html | 22:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-07-17-22.02.txt | 22:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-07-17-22.02.log.html | 22:59 |
| fungi | thanks jeblair! | 22:59 |
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