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| felipemonteiro__ | #startmeeting murano | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 18 13:00:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is felipemonteiro__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 13:00 |
| felipemonteiro__ | #topic Roll Call | 13:00 |
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| kzaitsev_ws | o/ | 13:02 |
| kzaitsev_ws | I'm finally at my desktop when the meeting starts =) | 13:02 |
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| felipemonteiro__ | kzaitsev_ws: yeah, that definitely helps | 13:05 |
| learnmore | o/ | 13:06 |
| felipemonteiro__ | #topic Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 13:08 |
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| kzaitsev_ws | felipemonteiro__: a quick thing. I don't see you on the presenter list in the project-update presentation | 13:08 |
| kzaitsev_ws | can you pls check | 13:09 |
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| kzaitsev_ws | they haven't put up voting links yet, but you should be able to see it in the list of your presentations | 13:09 |
| felipemonteiro__ | kzaitsev_ws: don't know why i wouldn't be on there; i added all 3 of us | 13:10 |
| kzaitsev_ws | maybe it's an error on my or zhurong's side and someone of us got you deleted =( | 13:10 |
| kzaitsev_ws | not sure | 13:10 |
| kzaitsev_ws | I'm sure it can be fixed easily, but we'll have to email the orgs | 13:10 |
| felipemonteiro__ | the form was extremely buggy when i submitted it. i'll have to contact the tc or possibly diablo_rojo to see if they can add me. | 13:12 |
| felipemonteiro__ | shouldn't be an issue since i submitted it :) | 13:12 |
| gbuteau | zhurong: the heat patch for volume attachments has been submitted, I think we should be able to revert the murano patch that removed attachments from CinderVolume.yaml. Please see details in https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1703387 | 13:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1703387 in Murano "cinder volume attachments are no longer available" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Gerry Buteau (gerry.buteau) | 13:13 |
| felipemonteiro__ | @learnmore: going through pbourke's murano-dashboard code review | 13:13 |
| felipemonteiro__ | don't know why i included the "@"; been using slack too much lately | 13:13 |
| learnmore | felipemonteiro_: Thanks. I was just going to ask you about this review. | 13:13 |
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| learnmore | Once we are able to encrypt properties, we will be able to encrypt our passwords and put them in the database encrypted. | 13:16 |
| learnmore | This is critical for us. We are also looking into how to remove plain-text passwords from the murano log files. | 13:16 |
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| felipemonteiro__ | gbuteau: thanks for doing that, hopefully it'll resolve the issue as you say murano-side now | 13:17 |
| kzaitsev_ws | learnmore: I think we had metadata for that | 13:19 |
| kzaitsev_ws | I mean if you add a meta-field for some property saying that it is sensitive and then never log these sensitive things | 13:19 |
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| kzaitsev_ws | that could be the solution | 13:20 |
| learnmore | kzaitsev_ws: Good to know. The murano-agent log files can contain passwords in clear text since we use our passwords in our scripts. | 13:21 |
| kzaitsev_ws | ltomasbo: oh right. that's different | 13:21 |
| felipemonteiro__ | learnmore: just submitted initial review | 13:22 |
| learnmore | felipemonteiro_: many thanks. | 13:23 |
| felipemonteiro__ | learnmore: yes, that's something i think stanlagun and others have known about for quite some time, it's definitely an issue | 13:24 |
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| felipemonteiro__ | #topic Open Discussion | 13:29 |
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| kzaitsev_ws | is anyone going to the PTG? =) | 13:32 |
| kzaitsev_ws | I'm most probably not. | 13:33 |
| learnmore | I don't know anyone going. | 13:33 |
| kzaitsev_ws | I heard they wanted to have the next one in europe | 13:34 |
| kzaitsev_ws | that one I'll try to attend (although it's still too far away to say for sure ) | 13:34 |
| kzaitsev_ws | but yeah, most folks I work with at the moment are skipping too | 13:34 |
| felipemonteiro__ | kzaitsev_ws: funding this year is limited for that, so probably not. | 13:34 |
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| felipemonteiro__ | it'll depend mostly on the agenda we have and whether i need to be there | 13:35 |
| kzaitsev_ws | felipemonteiro__: if no one's coming, then it's probably safe to skip and myabe have a virtual PTG at around the same time | 13:35 |
| felipemonteiro__ | kzaitsev_ws: a virtual PTG is a good idea and a good substitute for not being able to meet in person | 13:36 |
| learnmore | sounds good to me too. | 13:37 |
| felipemonteiro__ | after all, we need to plan for murano roadmap for the summit talk | 13:37 |
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| learnmore | Fyi, Oracle has submitted a talk for the summit. The talk is about deploying the Oracle database using Murano. Hopefully it will get accepted. | 13:38 |
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| felipemonteiro__ | learnmore: well, oracledb is very popular so i wouldn't see why not | 13:39 |
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| felipemonteiro__ | Any other items? Otherwise we can end the meeting early to get back some of our time | 13:44 |
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| learnmore | Till next week! | 13:46 |
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| felipemonteiro__ | kzaitsev_ws learnmore: thanks for joining | 13:47 |
| felipemonteiro__ | #endmeeting | 13:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 18 13:47:38 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-07-18-13.00.html | 13:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-07-18-13.00.txt | 13:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-07-18-13.00.log.html | 13:47 |
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| EmilienM | hello, tripleo meeting on #tripleo today - I'll probably repeat it in 2 min | 13:59 |
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| adarazs | *chirp* | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | reminder: meeting is on #tripleo (if you missed the email yesterday) | 14:03 |
| adarazs | oh. I did. :) | 14:03 |
| adarazs | thanks | 14:03 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 18 19:00:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
| pvaneck | o/ | 19:01 |
| chandankumar | \o/ | 19:01 |
| mguiney | o/ | 19:01 |
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| catherineD | chandankumar: Welcome to the RefStack team ! | 19:02 |
| chandankumar | catherineD: Thanks :-) | 19:02 |
| luzC | o/ | 19:03 |
| catherineD | Let's wait for a couple minutes .. | 19:03 |
| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-07-18 | 19:03 |
| catherineD | Alright let's start | 19:04 |
| catherineD | #topic Run tool to update the verification field | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Run tool to update the verification field (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:04 | |
| mguiney | currently in the middle of testing for that one | 19:05 |
| catherineD | mguiney: great .. thx | 19:05 |
| catherineD | Please make sure to take a copy before the real update | 19:05 |
| mguiney | absolutely | 19:06 |
| catherineD | Thanks | 19:06 |
| catherineD | #topic subunit result files upload | 19:06 |
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| mguiney | there actually are a few things i wanted to bring up rgarding this one | 19:06 |
| catherineD | chandankumar: please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480298/ for background information | 19:07 |
| mguiney | most importantly the way we want to manage the new data within refstack | 19:07 |
| chandankumar | catherineD: sure! | 19:07 |
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| catherineD | first we need to decide on the formats pls see 2.1.1, 2.12, and 2.13 in the agenda | 19:08 |
| catherineD | we can discuss the pro and con of each option | 19:09 |
| mguiney | ah yes | 19:09 |
| sslypushenko_ | o? | 19:09 |
| sslypushenko_ | o/ | 19:09 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: Hi ... we have a new RefStack member joining us ... please meet chandankumar: | 19:10 |
| catherineD | chandankumar: you are from RedHat right? | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko_ | Hi chandankumar! Welcome to the team =) | 19:11 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: we are now at topic 2: subunit result files upload | 19:11 |
| chandankumar | catherineD: yup, I am basically gatekeeper for tempest and its plugins for RDO and RHOS. | 19:11 |
| catherineD | we are discussing the option to save the subunut data in RefStack | 19:11 |
| chandankumar | sslypushenko_: Thanks :-) | 19:12 |
| sslypushenko_ | catherineD: it is hart decision | 19:12 |
| catherineD | chandankumar: good then you must be familiar to subunit file and subunit2SQL | 19:13 |
| chandankumar | yes | 19:13 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: absolutely ... l would like us to discuss the pro and con before making the best decision for RefStack | 19:13 |
| sslypushenko_ | I don't really understand benefits from saving subunit data... but looks like hogepodge does | 19:14 |
| catherineD | I trust that everyone knows why RefStack adopted to process the subunit data into a json file of on passed test for uploading to RefStack | 19:14 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko_: yea we discussed a lot in the early days of RefStack/DefCore ... | 19:15 |
| hogepodge | Many companies reach out to get help with their tests, this gives me a place to receive that which is common and won't get lost like in email | 19:15 |
| catherineD | but for today ... we already decide to implement it ... so we need to discuss the best way for implementation | 19:16 |
| hogepodge | This also allows for validation of test results. The json passed test list is really forged | 19:16 |
| hogepodge | Using a service is much more secure than plain text email | 19:16 |
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| sslypushenko_ | Basically, I'm pretty sure that it can be done without significant changes in RefStack security policy | 19:17 |
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| luzC | so subunit2sql creates a DB to register the file as 1 execution plus each test case on that execution and whether or not it passed or failed... if it is used I see some duplication with current DB schema... | 19:17 |
| chandankumar | I like the idea of using a service instead of saving in a file | 19:17 |
| hogepodge | It's signed and transmitted over TLD, much better than email | 19:17 |
| sslypushenko_ | For example we can encrypt subunit data before saving | 19:17 |
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| sslypushenko_ | I guess only Foundation admins really need access to these data | 19:18 |
| luzC | but the api will still receive the file just instead of saving it, it would be processed right? | 19:18 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: I understand ... but we have discussed this and the direction today is to save the entire subunit data not just the passed test | 19:19 |
| sslypushenko_ | catherineD: that is clear | 19:19 |
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| catherineD | I all cases we will need to to create REST APIs .. | 19:19 |
| sslypushenko_ | so, lets save all the data, but in encrypted way | 19:19 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: option is in what format do we save the data ... | 19:20 |
| catherineD | in a file as is ? in DB? | 19:20 |
| catherineD | if in DB separated DB or RefStack DB | 19:21 |
| mguiney | I'm a big fan of storing in a db | 19:21 |
| sslypushenko_ | DB should work good enough | 19:21 |
| mguiney | and using a separate db vs a refstack db of whether it is worth the effort to reinvent the wheel, from what i have seen | 19:21 |
| catherineD | luzC: hogepodge: pvaneck: your thoughts? | 19:21 |
| sslypushenko_ | Object store will be more suitable here , but we don't have such option | 19:22 |
| luzC | +1 on the db | 19:22 |
| catherineD | chandankumar: how about you? | 19:23 |
| hogepodge | DB, we have upstream tooling for it | 19:23 |
| hogepodge | I'm indifferent on single or separate | 19:23 |
| chandankumar | I am good with DB, but i am not sure with which DB, | 19:23 |
| catherineD | #agreed The subunit data will be saved in database | 19:23 |
| sslypushenko_ | +1 for separate database | 19:23 |
| catherineD | +1 for separate database | 19:24 |
| chandankumar | But as above said using seperate db, we need to reinvent the wheel? | 19:24 |
| mguiney | +1 for separate database | 19:24 |
| chandankumar | or using refstack DB we donot need to add extra stuff. | 19:24 |
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| * chandankumar does not looked at refstack DB. | 19:25 | |
| catherineD | chandankumar: we don't ... this give us a path to eventually migrate to subunit2SQL | 19:25 |
| mguiney | we would have to add a significant amount of tooling and 7 tables to refstack to keep it in the refstack db | 19:25 |
| catherineD | mguiney: ++ | 19:25 |
| luzC | +1 for separate database | 19:25 |
| mguiney | to use the internal db would require us to reinvent the wheel | 19:25 |
| catherineD | for the DB path, it is cleaner with separated db | 19:26 |
| chandankumar | Go it, +1 with seperate DB | 19:26 |
| chandankumar | *got | 19:26 |
| luzC | agree on having a future path to have test results only on subunit2sql db, hence somehow deprecate that from current refstack db | 19:26 |
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| luzC | catherineD do you refer to that wiht " a path to migrate to subunit2sql" | 19:27 |
| luzC | ? | 19:27 |
| catherineD | luzC: yea that is the idea .. if we are goiing to do it now .. let do it in a way that it has a migration path in thefuture | 19:27 |
| catherineD | luzC: yes | 19:27 |
| catherineD | the reason we do not use subunit2sql before because we only want to save passed data ... | 19:28 |
| luzC | catherineD: totally agree | 19:28 |
| catherineD | now that we decide to save everything it makes sense to use upstream tooling | 19:29 |
| catherineD | #agreed Use subunit2SQL to save the entire subunit data in a separated db. | 19:30 |
| catherineD | great .. thank you all! | 19:30 |
| mguiney | excellent. I'll update the spec | 19:30 |
| catherineD | This is much cleaner ... | 19:31 |
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| catherineD | since RefStack has a meta data table in place ... | 19:31 |
| catherineD | Initiallty, we can add a key value pair to the meta data table to tie back the test in the new db to RefStack | 19:32 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: the meta data table design comes in handy :-) | 19:32 |
| catherineD | we do not need any change to the RefStack data model at this time | 19:33 |
| mguiney | awesome. | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko_ | catherineD: that was the main intention to have meta table) | 19:33 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: yup .. | 19:34 |
| catherineD | anything else to discuss? | 19:34 |
| pvaneck | if subunit will be the primary way to upload data, should probably have a reference in the refstack.test table to the subunit2sql.test_runs table to link the two in a more direct way | 19:34 |
| mguiney | that was the main matter to be discussed on this patch for the moment | 19:34 |
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| catherineD | pvaneck: that link will be saved in the meta table for kow as a key-value pair | 19:35 |
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| mguiney | i do plan on fleshing out plans for what changes will need to be made to the api, but havnt gotten there yet | 19:35 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: for phase 1, it is not the primary way to upload data ... but it may be in the future | 19:35 |
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| pvaneck | sure | 19:37 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: is it doable ? or should we go ahead adding a reference to the test table? | 19:37 |
| pvaneck | both are doable, but if all test runs are going to eventually be linked to a subunit2sql test set, then should probably make the reference first class | 19:38 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: agree | 19:39 |
| mguiney | ++ | 19:39 |
| catherineD | for phase one let just do not change any data model in RefStack yet ... | 19:39 |
| mguiney | can do | 19:40 |
| mguiney | will update | 19:40 |
| catherineD | we may learn more as time go by and when we decide to migrate we will make change at that time ... because we will need to change RefStack data model anyway .. | 19:41 |
| catherineD | anything else? | 19:41 |
| catherineD | alright ... | 19:41 |
| catherineD | moving on | 19:41 |
| catherineD | #topic Automated tempest.conf Create spec and flow chart | 19:42 |
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| catherineD | Daniel Mellado referred Chandan Kumar to work with us on this topic ... | 19:42 |
| chandankumar | I have tried python-tempestconf tool with refstack https://gitlab.com/snippets/1668319 | 19:43 |
| chandankumar | I have gone through the notes mentioned here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-pike-ptg | 19:44 |
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| catherineD | chandankumar: thank you | 19:45 |
| chandankumar | Recently we have recently introduced os-cloud-config as well as test account files. | 19:45 |
| chandankumar | as well as remove option to remove something which we donot want | 19:45 |
| chandankumar | Below is the list of things which is missing from the etherpad or not decided. | 19:46 |
| catherineD | one of the main reason why RefStack user has issues with tempest config is because of the env | 19:46 |
| chandankumar | 1. config tool does not generate config for volume but generates for volume api extensions. | 19:47 |
| chandankumar | 2. It looks for flavors if got missing it will create it | 19:47 |
| chandankumar | that's it from myside | 19:47 |
| catherineD | RefStack test cloud that are built and maybe customized by the provider .. a lot of the default & assumption that exist in devstack are not applicable | 19:48 |
| chandankumar | catherineD: you mean env = openstack deployment environment | 19:48 |
| catherineD | yes | 19:48 |
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| chandankumar | catherineD: python-tempestconf really need love to satisfy the different cloud env customization | 19:49 |
| catherineD | a good trial may be built a RDO env from scratch and see how the tempest.config shoudl be built | 19:49 |
| catherineD | chandankumar: ++ | 19:50 |
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| chandankumar | catherineD: we generally run tempest config tool with tripleo https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras/blob/master/roles/validate-tempest/templates/configure-tempest.sh.j2#L135 | 19:51 |
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| chandankumar | in tripleo ci against periodic tempest jobs | 19:51 |
| catherineD | not all variable can be discovered ... and even that the variables are discovered .. often those may involve choices that a user need to make | 19:52 |
| chandankumar | catherineD: yes, correct. | 19:52 |
| catherineD | for example in an environment that have 2 fix netwoks .. which one should be used? | 19:52 |
| catherineD | anyway let us review https://gitlab.com/snippets/1668319 and we can discuss some more next week | 19:53 |
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| catherineD | #action everyone please review https://gitlab.com/snippets/1668319 | 19:54 |
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| chandankumar | currently if we have the multiple networks there is an options --network-id through which can specify network we want to use. | 19:54 |
| chandankumar | catherineD: what are the action items from here? | 19:54 |
| catherineD | chandankumar: correct ... so a human being will have to do that by editing the config file ... | 19:54 |
| catherineD | for me I want to see how https://gitlab.com/snippets/1668319 works | 19:55 |
| catherineD | the goal is to ease user pain when starts with RefStack test ... | 19:56 |
| catherineD | those users are usually not very familiar with Tempest . | 19:56 |
| catherineD | for me this is a very hard task .. thus we still do not have a good solution so far .. | 19:57 |
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| catherineD | we are about to run out of time ... | 19:59 |
| catherineD | let's move on .. we will revisit this topic next week | 19:59 |
| chandankumar | yup | 19:59 |
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| catherineD | everyone please review the patches listed in the pending review section | 20:00 |
| catherineD | thank you all !!! | 20:00 |
| luzC | bye | 20:00 |
| catherineD | I am glad that we had made the decision for the subunit format | 20:00 |
| mguiney | have a good day, y'all! | 20:00 |
| catherineD | bye everyone | 20:00 |
| mguiney | glad to have updates so i can move it forward | 20:00 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| chandankumar | thank you catherineD and good night all :-) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 18 20:00:46 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-07-18-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-07-18-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-07-18-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
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