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aspiers | morning | 09:00 |
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aspiers | or afternoon or evening :) | 09:01 |
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aspiers | #startmeeting ha | 09:05 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 26 09:05:54 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:05 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:05 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha' | 09:05 |
aspiers | hi | 09:06 |
samP | hi | 09:06 |
rkmrHonjo | Hello | 09:06 |
aspiers | samP: anything to discuss today? not much from my side | 09:06 |
aspiers | hi rkmrHonjo | 09:06 |
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samP | I would like to introduce rkmrHonjo from masakari | 09:06 |
rkmrHonjo | samP: thanks. | 09:07 |
samP | He will be working on converting masakari monitors to RA with moduler architecture | 09:07 |
aspiers | cool! | 09:08 |
aspiers | rkmrHonjo: nice to meet you :) | 09:08 |
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aspiers | #topic modular architecture | 09:08 |
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rkmrHonjo | aspiers: Nice to meet you. I've checked openstack-ra repository. | 09:09 |
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aspiers | rkmrHonjo: let me know if I can help | 09:09 |
rkmrHonjo | aspiers: Thanks a lot! I'll ask to you if I have any questions. | 09:10 |
aspiers | rkmrHonjo: do you know which bit you want to work on first? | 09:10 |
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samP | aspiers: can you share the link for latest link for modular architecture? | 09:10 |
aspiers | #link https://aspiers.github.io/openstack-day-israel-2017-compute-ha/#/modular | 09:11 |
samP | aspiers: thanks. | 09:11 |
aspiers | press Space to go through the slides | 09:11 |
rkmrHonjo | thanks... | 09:12 |
aspiers | rkmrHonjo: are you going to Denver PTG? | 09:12 |
rkmrHonjo | OK, I read it after that. | 09:12 |
rkmrHonjo | aspiers: Sorry, I won't participate. | 09:13 |
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samP | aspiers: Which part would you think is best to start? Host monitor? | 09:14 |
samP | aspiers: Are you already working on some of those? | 09:14 |
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aspiers | samP: yes I think host monitor is probably best | 09:15 |
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samP | aspiers: OK then, me and rkmrHonjo can start creating PoC on Host monitoring part. | 09:21 |
aspiers | I haven't had a chance to do anything significant on it yet, since we are busy with the HPE merger :-/ | 09:21 |
samP | aspiers: NP | 09:21 |
aspiers | samP: I guess the first step is to update the spec | 09:21 |
samP | aspiers: sure | 09:21 |
aspiers | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-resource-agents-specs/blob/master/specs/newton/approved/newton-instance-ha-host-recovery.rst | 09:21 |
aspiers | it would describe https://aspiers.github.io/openstack-day-israel-2017-compute-ha/#/nova-host-alerter | 09:21 |
samP | aspiers: spec for "nova-host-alerter" will be in instance-ha-host-recovery spec? | 09:21 |
samP | aspiers: or will it be a separate spec for modular architecture? | 09:21 |
aspiers | well, technically we also need a instance-ha-host-monitoring spec | 09:21 |
aspiers | since nova-host-alerter is in the top half of the diagram (monitoring) not the bottom (recovery) | 09:21 |
samP | aspiers: agree | 09:21 |
aspiers | see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-instance-ha line 119 | 09:21 |
aspiers | line 124 is out of date now | 09:21 |
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rkmrHonjo | samP, aspiers: OK. I start to design host monitor at first. | 09:21 |
rkmrHonjo | Should I design RA monitor with moduler architecture now? or, without it until completing implementation? | 09:21 |
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aspiers | previously we thought that Pacemaker would do all the monitoring | 09:21 |
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aspiers | rkmrHonjo: I think we should finish the two host monitoring/recovery specs first, to make sure we all agree on the design | 09:22 |
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rkmrHonjo | aspires: OK. | 09:23 |
aspiers | so the monitoring part is pacemaker + pacemaker_remote + fence_compute + nova-host-alerter | 09:23 |
samP | aspiers: agree | 09:23 |
aspiers | great | 09:23 |
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samP | aspiers: however, "nova-host-alerter" or something like that would be common for all the monitors? | 09:24 |
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aspiers | you mean for VM monitoring/recovery? | 09:25 |
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samP | aspiers: yes | 09:25 |
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aspiers | maybe eventually, but I think it is good enough to stick with masakari-vmmonitor for now | 09:26 |
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samP | aspiers: ok | 09:26 |
aspiers | if there are other VM recovery services in the future, we could extend masakari-vmmonitor to talk to them | 09:26 |
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aspiers | I guess there's no advantage to generalising VM monitoring while there is only one option :) | 09:28 |
samP | aspiers: got it.. | 09:28 |
samP | aspiers: let's update the spec first. Once things get fixed in the spec, rkmrHonjo and me can start the PoC for this. | 09:29 |
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aspiers | sounds perfect, thanks a lot! | 09:30 |
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samP | aspiers: will you be able to update the spec? or should I start working on that? | 09:32 |
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aspiers | samP: there's already https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406659/ | 09:34 |
aspiers | it is not merged yet, so we can update to include nova-host-alerter | 09:34 |
aspiers | which is what ddeja's final comment suggested, anyway :) | 09:35 |
samP | aspiers: yep | 09:35 |
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aspiers | I will update that | 09:36 |
samP | aspiers: great..thanks | 09:36 |
aspiers | and we also need to update https://github.com/openstack/openstack-resource-agents-specs/blob/master/specs/newton/approved/newton-instance-ha-host-recovery.rst | 09:36 |
rkmrHonjo | aspiers: thank you... | 09:37 |
aspiers | rkmrHonjo: thank you for joining :) | 09:37 |
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rkmrHonjo | aspiers: You're welcome. | 09:39 |
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samP | aspiers: OK, if ddeja wouldn't mind, I can take over this.. | 09:41 |
aspiers | samP: ok I guess we're done, unless you have anything else today? | 09:41 |
aspiers | samP: I'm sure ddeja wouldn't mind | 09:41 |
samP | aspiers: ok then I will fix that | 09:41 |
aspiers | great, thanks! | 09:41 |
aspiers | alright. I will work on the monitoring spec ASAP | 09:41 |
samP | aspiers: session proposed for Ops Meetup in MEX | 09:41 |
aspiers | oh nice! | 09:42 |
samP | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEX-ops-meetup | 09:42 |
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aspiers | #action aspiers to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406659/ to latest architecture | 09:42 |
aspiers | #action samP to update https://github.com/openstack/openstack-resource-agents-specs/blob/master/specs/newton/approved/newton-instance-ha-host-recovery.rst to latest architecture | 09:42 |
samP | I will update you about ops meetup | 09:42 |
aspiers | great | 09:42 |
aspiers | my manager is finding out whether I can go to Denver | 09:42 |
aspiers | will you be there? | 09:42 |
samP | aspiers: yes, I will be there.. | 09:42 |
aspiers | cool | 09:42 |
aspiers | fingers crossed I can go :) | 09:43 |
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rkmrHonjo__ | Sorry, my network is unstable today. | 09:43 |
aspiers | rkmrHonjo__: np | 09:43 |
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samP | aspiers: ok then, nothing else from my side | 09:43 |
aspiers | rkmrHonjo__: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2017/ha.2017-07-26-09.05.log.txt | 09:44 |
samP | aspiers: I will update you on ML about ops and other topics | 09:44 |
aspiers | perfect | 09:44 |
aspiers | ok, so we can close the meeting - thanks a lot both, and see you on #openstack-ha! | 09:44 |
samP | aspiers: thank you.. | 09:44 |
samP | rkmrHonjo__: thank you | 09:44 |
aspiers | #endmeeting | 09:45 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 26 09:45:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:45 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2017/ha.2017-07-26-09.05.html | 09:45 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2017/ha.2017-07-26-09.05.txt | 09:45 |
rkmrHonjo__ | tahnk you all! | 09:45 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2017/ha.2017-07-26-09.05.log.html | 09:45 |
rkmrHonjo__ | s/tahnk/thank/ | 09:45 |
rkmrHonjo__ | bye | 09:45 |
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devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 26 14:00:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 14:00 |
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devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 14:42 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:42 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 26 14:42:38 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:42 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-07-26-14.00.html | 14:42 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-07-26-14.00.txt | 14:42 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2017/solum_team_meeting.2017-07-26-14.00.log.html | 14:42 |
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trevormc | o/ | 15:04 |
smatzek | o/ | 15:05 |
trevormc | hey smatzek, looks like amrith is not here. | 15:06 |
smatzek | looks to be the case | 15:07 |
trevormc | .. going to move into #openstack-trove. | 15:07 |
amrith | hi guys | 15:11 |
amrith | sorry, missed the time slot | 15:11 |
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trevormc | o/ | 16:04 |
trevormc | sorry im late. | 16:04 |
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timsim | #startmeeting designate | 17:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 26 17:01:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: designate)" | 17:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:01 |
timsim | #topic Roll Call | 17:01 |
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timsim | mugsie trungnv hieulq | 17:01 |
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trungnv_ | o/ | 17:01 |
mugsie | o/ | 17:01 |
timsim | i don't see any new bugs/bp-worth items | 17:02 |
timsim | #topic Open Discussion | 17:03 |
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trungnv_ | mugsie, Do you have any update for OVO testing? | 17:03 |
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mugsie | trungnv_: no - I was on vacation last weekend, so i did not get to finish testing | 17:04 |
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mugsie | and we were quite busy doing a release | 17:04 |
mugsie | but I think things are quieting down a bit soon | 17:04 |
trungnv_ | yep. I am understand your situation now. | 17:04 |
timsim | Oh that reminds me, I think P3 is friday | 17:04 |
trungnv_ | yep. | 17:05 |
timsim | Tomorrow, actually. | 17:05 |
timsim | Guess I better do that | 17:05 |
mugsie | :D | 17:05 |
mugsie | yes | 17:05 |
trungnv_ | mugsie, I got your comments in OSM PS. I am still working on it. | 17:07 |
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mugsie | great | 17:07 |
trungnv_ | How do you think about trigger-based solution for Designate at the moment? | 17:07 |
mugsie | I am not convinced - it looks quite complex | 17:08 |
mugsie | is it used anywhere else? | 17:08 |
trungnv_ | yep. you can look at keystone, glance | 17:09 |
mugsie | OK - maybe seeing how they use it might be OK | 17:09 |
trungnv_ | quite 2 approaches in this case | 17:10 |
trungnv_ | I still keep normal upgrade | 17:10 |
trungnv_ | on migrate-repo | 17:10 |
trungnv_ | and I will separate 3 new repos for upgrade with zero-downtime | 17:11 |
trungnv_ | *separate created | 17:11 |
mugsie | no - we need to have one way to upgrade | 17:11 |
mugsie | I will look at the keystone + glance - and see how they did it | 17:11 |
trungnv_ | yeo. sure. | 17:11 |
trungnv_ | keystone use both. | 17:12 |
mugsie | really? that seems .... dangerous | 17:13 |
mugsie | OK - I will look at it | 17:13 |
trungnv_ | Yep. please let me know your comments with my solution when you look at them on other project. | 17:14 |
mugsie | OK | 17:14 |
trungnv_ | I also a schedule to working on OVO solution for OSM which named trigger-less. | 17:14 |
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trungnv_ | but this solution need to merged OVO code-base first. | 17:16 |
mugsie | yeap | 17:16 |
trungnv_ | mugsie, Please understand then trigger-based which use to upgrade with zero-downtime. | 17:17 |
trungnv_ | and current solution via migrate-repo which use to upgrading with downtime(have downtime) | 17:18 |
mugsie | I will look at it | 17:19 |
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trungnv_ | yep. thanks. | 17:20 |
mugsie | is that everything? | 17:20 |
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timsim | Going once... | 17:21 |
trungnv_ | In the next time, OVO and OSM could be next future of Designate when you talk in summit? | 17:21 |
mugsie | yeah - they could be | 17:22 |
mugsie | the summit is a while away :) | 17:22 |
mugsie | it may be "the current" designate | 17:22 |
trungnv_ | wow. thanks. :) | 17:23 |
timsim | Alright, anything else to discuss? | 17:24 |
trungnv_ | no. thanks. | 17:24 |
mugsie | nothing from mew | 17:24 |
mugsie | me* | 17:24 |
timsim | Alright, see you all in #openstack-dns | 17:25 |
timsim | #endmeeting | 17:25 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 26 17:25:14 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:25 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-07-26-17.01.html | 17:25 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-07-26-17.01.txt | 17:25 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2017/designate.2017-07-26-17.01.log.html | 17:25 |
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mugsie | o/ | 17:25 |
timsim | o/ | 17:25 |
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