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| toabctl | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 12:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 27 12:03:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is toabctl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 12:03 |
| toabctl | ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof | 12:03 |
| number80 | o/ | 12:03 |
| toabctl | anybody arround? | 12:03 |
| toabctl | hey | 12:03 |
| number80 | jpena is in PTO this week | 12:03 |
| toabctl | as usual, let's collect agenda topics at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 12:04 |
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| toabctl | let's start | 12:05 |
| toabctl | #topic PTL candidates | 12:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTL candidates (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:06 | |
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| toabctl | we had that on the agenda last week and postponed it. | 12:06 |
| toabctl | maybe we should postpone it again. | 12:07 |
| toabctl | number80, any opinion on that one? | 12:08 |
| number80 | I agreed with Dirk that you'd make a great one :) | 12:08 |
| toabctl | number80, :-) | 12:09 |
| toabctl | number80, but I'll be on parental leave for some time... | 12:09 |
| toabctl | and during that time I won't be online much. if there is a backup I could do it. | 12:09 |
| number80 | toabctl: well, we can appoint release contacts I think | 12:09 |
| number80 | We just need to let the release mgmt team know about that | 12:10 |
| number80 | it would also distribute the load | 12:10 |
| toabctl | for that, there is a release laison (next topic) | 12:10 |
| number80 | *nods* | 12:10 |
| toabctl | #topic release liason | 12:11 |
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| toabctl | we postponed that as well because we were not enough people to decide it | 12:11 |
| toabctl | dirk would like todo it, I managed a lot of recent releases so I would also be fine with doing it. | 12:11 |
| toabctl | it's just that we need to decide it. but I would wait for jpena with that one. it's not blocking because I can do releases when I talk to ttx | 12:12 |
| toabctl | number80, anything about that topic? | 12:12 |
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| dirk | o/ | 12:13 |
| number80 | Well, it's fine to appoint people on addition of PTL to manage releases | 12:13 |
| number80 | o/ | 12:13 |
| dirk | toabctl: would be convenient as a PTL standin during your absence then as well | 12:14 |
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| toabctl | ok | 12:14 |
| toabctl | I see - there is no way out this time ;) | 12:14 |
| number80 | toabctl: you're forking, so that means another process to help you? | 12:16 |
| toabctl | number80, it's more like a starting a blocking task I guess :) | 12:17 |
| toabctl | #topic packaging reviews | 12:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "packaging reviews (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:17 | |
| toabctl | would be nice to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487818/ quickly merged. that's blocking the karbor guys currently | 12:17 |
| toabctl | number80, RDO CI is red for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482318/ . could you have a look there? | 12:18 |
| number80 | sure | 12:18 |
| dirk | i believe the RDO failure is due to rebuild ordering issues | 12:19 |
| dirk | I think we should just merge it | 12:19 |
| dirk | it is a bit of a pain that we always end up in this death spiral | 12:19 |
| toabctl | RDO CI passed without all the extra patches added.. | 12:19 |
| number80 | no, I see tests failure in logs | 12:20 |
| number80 | https://logs.rdoproject.org/18/482318/7/openstack-check/DLRN-rpmbuild-rpm-packaging/Za6adb659cad44f7dbb7f625ccef80236/centos/repos/c6/93/c69304e3d365dc2c67fab298eba0b9097d3819da_dev/rpmbuild.log | 12:20 |
| number80 | at the bottom | 12:20 |
| number80 | I'll try to see what's happening here | 12:21 |
| toabctl | number80, openstackclient should use the newly build osc-lib | 12:21 |
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| toabctl | number80, I had the same failure locall | 12:21 |
| toabctl | y | 12:21 |
| number80 | ack | 12:21 |
| toabctl | anything else in the queue that we want to discuss? | 12:23 |
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| dirk | toabctl: so it is just build ordering | 12:24 |
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| dirk | can we agree to merge it? | 12:24 |
| dirk | osc-lib update is important to unblock all the other reviews | 12:25 |
| toabctl | dirk, from my side, yes | 12:25 |
| toabctl | jepp | 12:25 |
| dirk | number80: ok? | 12:25 |
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| number80 | Yes | 12:25 |
| number80 | I may have to have to request manual fix on the CI instance though | 12:27 |
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| toabctl | #topic open floor | 12:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 12:29 | |
| toabctl | the wonderful python3 topic is still on my list but I had not much progress. I still try to figure out a nice way to improve renderspec to be able to render yaml descriptions | 12:29 |
| toabctl | so nothing new here | 12:29 |
| toabctl | anything else? | 12:30 |
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| * number80 has to jump to another call | 12:32 | |
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| toabctl | ok. I think we are done | 12:33 |
| toabctl | thanks everybody | 12:33 |
| toabctl | #endmeeting | 12:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 12:33 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 27 12:33:50 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-07-27-12.03.html | 12:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-07-27-12.03.txt | 12:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2017/rpm_packaging.2017-07-27-12.03.log.html | 12:33 |
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| dirk | toabctl: thanks | 12:40 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 27 15:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | hello o/ | 15:00 |
| xyang2 | hi | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | Hello | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:00 |
| dustins | \o | 15:00 |
| bswartz | #topic announcements | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| bswartz | hopefully it's not news to anyone that today is the feature freeze | 15:01 |
| bswartz | there's a few things left to wrap up, more on those later | 15:01 |
| bswartz | reminder that next week, Wednesday 2 August is our bug squash day | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | the official schedule has our RC-1 target in 2 weeks | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | so without further ado, let's dive into the agenda | 15:03 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #topic Feature Freeze | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Feature Freeze (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/pike-3 | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | so LP is unfortunately not caught up to date with reality | 15:03 |
| bswartz | many of these BPs are implemented | 15:04 |
| bswartz | I haven't had time to go through them all and fix them | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | aside from IPv6 and ensure share, what is still left to be workflowed? | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468899/ failed at the gate.. | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | ^ that's the last of share groups stuff | 15:05 |
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| tbarron | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-manila-code-review-focus s/b up to date | 15:06 |
| bswartz | what's py27dj19 and py27dj110? | 15:06 |
| tbarron | django versions | 15:06 |
| tbarron | not too long ago these passed so the question is whether the | 15:07 |
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| tbarron | failure is due to the patch | 15:07 |
| zhongjun | Could we continue to work on ensure share feature | 15:07 |
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| vponomaryov | failure is due to django ==1.11 | 15:07 |
| bswartz | smh | 15:07 |
| tbarron | vponomaryov: so we would fail w/o the patch | 15:07 |
| bswartz | why does the django version matter so much? | 15:07 |
| vponomaryov | tbarron: I suspect yes | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: major version has been changed | 15:08 |
| tbarron | we get caught by this stuff in UI b/c CI is patch driven and patches are sparse over time | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | 1.10 -> 1.11 isn't a major version, it's a minor version | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | why didn't they call it 2.0? | 15:09 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: not sure, I know that mnor versions are third part | 15:09 |
| vponomaryov | s/mnor/minor/ | 15:09 |
| vponomaryov | like in latest django version which 1.11.3 | 15:10 |
| bswartz | why does django feel okay with breaking users on a version update? | 15:10 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: actually, it is expected that some features appear and some disappear | 15:10 |
| vponomaryov | we support 1.9 and 1.10 | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | but not 1.11 yes | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | s/yes/yet/ | 15:11 |
| bswartz | maybe I'm just old fashioned, but I remember when backwards compatibility was something people cared about | 15:11 |
| bswartz | okay well what does u-c for pike say about django? | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: Django>=1.8,<2.0 | 15:12 |
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| vponomaryov | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/cd180a84/global-requirements.txt#L35 | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | so this is something we have to fix then right? | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | yes | 15:13 |
| bswartz | does anyone know how significant the breakage is? | 15:14 |
| vponomaryov | i guess, it is better to ask Horizon guys | 15:14 |
| bswartz | I see 22 error out of 174 tests | 15:14 |
| tbarron | presumably this is being fixed as well in main horizon code | 15:14 |
| tbarron | or was recently fixed | 15:14 |
| bswartz | AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'ChoiceFieldRenderer' | 15:15 |
| bswartz | NoReverseMatch: None is not a registered namespace | 15:15 |
| vponomaryov | looks like our master works -> http://logs.openstack.org/00/487900/1/check/gate-manila-ui-python27-ubuntu-xenial/eecaf7e/ | 15:15 |
| vponomaryov | and it is question of only my patch then | 15:15 |
| bswartz | those are the only 2 errors I see | 15:15 |
| bswartz | repeated several times | 15:15 |
| bswartz | okay well let's table this UI issue and move on | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov are you going to follow up and see what we can do to push this patch in today? | 15:16 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: will try and inform you about investigation results | 15:17 |
| bswartz | I'd really like to have it in pike | 15:17 |
| bswartz | ok | 15:17 |
| bswartz | so regarding IPv6 | 15:17 |
| bswartz | we have these 2 patches: | 15:18 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328932/ | 15:18 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357320/ | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | oh wait, that last one is abandoned | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | just the client patch | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | is anyone currently looking at the ipv6 client patch? | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | I'll take that as a no... | 15:21 |
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| zhongjun | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328932 | 15:21 |
| bswartz | markstur, gouthamr, vponomaryov, you've all had previous reviews here | 15:21 |
| bswartz | oh tbarron too | 15:21 |
| tbarron | i'm looking again now, it has been a bit but mostly looks like rebasing | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: i can take a look right after this meeting | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468277/19 | 15:22 |
| bswartz | thanks | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | we've three conflicts to resolve and all three patches can get in | 15:22 |
| bswartz | okay that leasts ensure-share | 15:23 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: will look | 15:23 |
| tbarron | and like-filter | 15:23 |
| bswartz | we previously agreed that ensure share was lower priority | 15:23 |
| bswartz | I personally would like to revisit it in queens | 15:23 |
| bswartz | and the current patch seems to be failing jenkins | 15:24 |
| bswartz | any objection to pushing it out now? | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | personally haven't looked at it... agree with tbarron and bswartz | 15:24 |
| * bswartz checks to make sure zhongjun is here | 15:24 | |
| bswartz | oh I see zhongjun | 15:25 |
| bswartz | zhongjun: what do you mean continue to work on it? you mean try to get it in today? | 15:25 |
| zhongjun | Not actually failing now | 15:25 |
| tbarron | i don't think we've had enough review attention to this patch to do it in pike | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | no you don't | 15:25 |
| * tbarron points at himself when he says that | 15:25 | |
| zhongjun | For next one week? | 15:25 |
| bswartz | zhongjun: http://logs.openstack.org/45/457545/32/check/gate-manila-tempest-minimal-dsvm-lvm-ubuntu-xenial/2ff0819/console.html | 15:26 |
| tbarron | it's more than just tests failing | 15:26 |
| tbarron | I'm not sure we're doing what we agreed to do yet | 15:26 |
| bswartz | okay perhaps the test failure I see is a random one, not related to the patch | 15:26 |
| tbarron | zhongjun has done great work on this, but we haven't as a community worked on it | 15:26 |
| tbarron | to the extent we should | 15:27 |
| bswartz | yes out attention has been stretched in many directions this release | 15:27 |
| bswartz | s/out/our/ | 15:27 |
| tbarron | I don't think it's anyone's fault, it's just the way it is. | 15:27 |
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| tbarron | like-filter on the other hand has had lots of review attention and is almost ready. | 15:27 |
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| bswartz | well I'll repeat what I've said before to zhongjun -- I really appreciate you trying to do so much, but it's more valuable to focus on a smaller number of things and do them well | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | the rest of us haven't been able to focus on ensure share | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | I think it's clear we need to push it out -- that doesn't mean you can't keep working on it -- it just means that we won't consider merging it until queens opens up | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | let's make sure ensure share ends up on the agenda for PTG this fall | 15:31 |
| bswartz | so that covers all the stuff on LP | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | let me make sure we capture remaining work | 15:31 |
| bswartz | #action gouthamr review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328932/ | 15:31 |
| tbarron | bswartz: but we have like-filter in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-manila-code-review-focus | 15:32 |
| bswartz | #action tbarron review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468277 | 15:32 |
| bswartz | err | 15:32 |
| bswartz | did I miss something | 15:32 |
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| gouthamr | vponomaryov, will you help with the manila-ui fix? | 15:33 |
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| vponomaryov | gouthamr: yes | 15:34 |
| bswartz | #action vponomaryov fix dj111 bugs in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468899/ | 15:34 |
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| gouthamr | vponomaryov: thank you.. happy to review.. | 15:34 |
| * gouthamr and leave the hard work to vponomaryov | 15:35 | |
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| bswartz | tbarron: where is the blueprint for the like filter stuff | 15:35 |
| * bswartz headdesk | 15:35 | |
| * tbarron looks | 15:35 | |
| bswartz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/like-filter | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | okay I jumped the gun here because I didn't see the client patch | 15:36 |
| bswartz | alright | 15:36 |
| bswartz | anything else I missed? | 15:36 |
| bswartz | #topic Bug Squash Day | 15:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Squash Day (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:38 | |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-manila-bug-squash | 15:38 |
| bswartz | I created an etherpad | 15:38 |
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| bswartz | I will be setting up a webex for this event | 15:38 |
| bswartz | there is an ML post about it too | 15:38 |
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| bswartz | feel free to start throwing bug onto the list | 15:39 |
| bswartz | the first thing we do when we start the event will be to go looking for bugs that need fixing or bugs that need filing | 15:39 |
| bswartz | then we'll do some prioritization and assigning of bugs to volunteers | 15:39 |
| bswartz | we might address some as teams or hand them off to individuals | 15:40 |
| bswartz | I hope to also use this time to try to capture some of our longstanding issues in written bug form that haven't been written down already | 15:40 |
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| gouthamr | we should perhaps break them into three levels of percieved complexity.. | 15:41 |
| bswartz | There's a long list of things in my heat that bother me, and only some of them are captured as bugs I'm sure | 15:41 |
| bswartz | s/heat/head/ | 15:41 |
| tbarron | hothead | 15:41 |
| ganso | bswartz: thought it was a type for heart | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | docs, low-hanging-fruit, others | 15:41 |
| ganso | bswartz: *typo | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | heated head | 15:41 |
| bswartz | yes they bother me in my heart too | 15:42 |
| bswartz | but the list is in my head | 15:42 |
| bswartz | anyways I set the time for basically all day east coast USA time | 15:42 |
| bswartz | if people can only join for part of the day that's fine | 15:43 |
| bswartz | I'll be there more or less all day to coordinate things | 15:43 |
| bswartz | this community has never done a bug squash day before so it will be interesting to see who shows up and what we accomplish | 15:43 |
| bswartz | I know these types of events have been very positive for other projects | 15:44 |
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| bswartz | and there's one other topic that's been weighing on me... | 15:44 |
| bswartz | #topic Python 3 in Queens | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Python 3 in Queens (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:44 | |
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| bswartz | the amount of time it's taken to transition from py2 to py3 is a kind of a joke | 15:45 |
| bswartz | it's an issue for the whole community, but I'd like to do what we can in Manila to speed up the process of dropping py2 | 15:45 |
| bswartz | in particular, I'd like to move every test job that's currently py2-only to be py3-only | 15:45 |
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| bswartz | stuff that's tested on both can continue to be tested on both | 15:46 |
| bswartz | but py3 should be our primary platform at this point, and py2 should be moving towards deprecation | 15:46 |
| bswartz | I suspect the TC will decide when py2 becomes officially deprecated | 15:46 |
| bswartz | I'm looking forward to a time when all of the "six" code in manila disappears | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | it's incredibly awkward to support both versions | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | okay that's all I had! | 15:48 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:48 | |
| bswartz | we have a few minutes left | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | any other urgent topics? | 15:49 |
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| bswartz | if not, let's get onto wrapping up loose ends for pike-3 | 15:49 |
| bswartz | I expect to push the milestone tags this afternoon | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python | 15:49 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: afternonn is in 10 minutes, isn't it? | 15:50 |
| bswartz | looks like ubuntu 18.04 won't have py2 installed by default | 15:50 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: or you mean soem other timezone? | 15:50 |
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| bswartz | huzzah for canonical! | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | "Overarching" goal though.. | 15:51 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: well I'm having lunch in 10 minutes... | 15:51 |
| bswartz | when I get back from lunch I'm going to check if the remaining stuff got through the gate and it so, I'll start pushing releases | 15:51 |
| dustins | Fedora has had Python 3.X as the default since F23, but you can install 2.X if you want | 15:52 |
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| bswartz | if not I'll work on shepherding those last few patches until they're merged | 15:52 |
| * dustins apparently needs to trim some whitespace O.o | 15:52 | |
| bswartz | dustins: can you say the same for RHEL? | 15:52 |
| dustins | bswartz: I cannot | 15:52 |
| dustins | Unfortunately | 15:52 |
| tbarron | bswartz: dustins there we have customers | 15:52 |
| tbarron | banks, hospitals, etc. | 15:53 |
| tbarron | but I digress | 15:53 |
| dustins | I'm sure some folks somewhere are looking at it, but I don't know timeframes | 15:53 |
| bswartz | well it's not the end of the world to have py2+py3 installed on your boxes | 15:53 |
| bswartz | the key is that py3 is available and we can rely on it | 15:53 |
| * tbarron seems to remember bswartz talking about backwards compatability some time ago | 15:53 | |
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| tbarron | yeah, I'm all for moving *us* to python3 | 15:54 |
| bswartz | because that allows US to kill off py2 support from our code even manila end-users have it for other reasons | 15:54 |
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| bswartz | even though* | 15:54 |
| bswartz | alright I think we're done | 15:55 |
| bswartz | thanks to all the reviewers for all the reviews these last 2 weeks | 15:55 |
| bswartz | and thanks to the contributors for updating patches so often | 15:55 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 27 15:56:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-07-27-15.00.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-07-27-15.00.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2017/manila.2017-07-27-15.00.log.html | 15:56 |
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| lhinds | #startmeeting security | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 27 17:00:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lhinds. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:00 |
| lhinds | #chair hyakuhei | 17:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hyakuhei lhinds | 17:00 |
| lhinds | hi all, anyone around? | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | o/ | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | Whaddup! | 17:02 |
| lhinds | hi hyakuhei | 17:02 |
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| lhinds | michaelxin , trying to think of irc handles | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | heh | 17:02 |
| lhinds | who else should we wake up hyakuhei ? | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | tkelsey and capn0day are out I'm sure | 17:02 |
| lhinds | summer hols right now I guess | 17:02 |
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| lhinds | want to drive hyakuhei ? | 17:03 |
| lhinds | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | No passengers to drive anywhere :P | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | I guess we could talk to each other | 17:04 |
| lhinds | lol, lets go freestyle :) | 17:04 |
| lhinds | I guess one I was interested in is the PTG | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | I probably won't make the meeting next week because I'm travelling again | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | I won't make the PTG :( | 17:05 |
| lhinds | no worries, I can make next week, I then have 2 weeks off, if you're around then? | 17:05 |
| lhinds | second of those I will be back home, so could likely help out there | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei | I think I'll be around | 17:06 |
| lhinds | cool | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | I noticed there was an OSSN we were getting dinged on | 17:07 |
| lhinds | which one is that? | 17:07 |
| * fungi is curious too | 17:07 | |
| hyakuhei | I'll check my gmail, one sec | 17:07 |
| fungi | (not a passenger, just a hitchhiker) | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | bug 1649333 | 17:08 |
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| lhinds | ohhh, I still don't have access rights. | 17:08 |
| lhinds | "Lost something? | 17:09 |
| lhinds | This page does not exist, or you may not have permission to see it. | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | Ah ok, I'll seee if I can add you | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | I probably got added directly ? | 17:09 |
| fungi | same here | 17:09 |
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| fungi | no access for me | 17:09 |
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| fungi | so it's presumably nothing the vmt chucked over the wall ;) | 17:10 |
| lhinds | yep | 17:10 |
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| hyakuhei | Ah my 2FA is bricked. | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | grumble | 17:10 |
| fungi | no access for any of us! | 17:10 |
| fungi | very secure indeed :D | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | 1649333 that's the right one I'm sure | 17:10 |
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| hyakuhei | Yeah ok, how annoying, I was supposed to make this happen back in January | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | Right ok, lhinds I'll reply by email and get them to add you | 17:11 |
| fungi | feel free to ping/sub me if you need vmt input on it for any reason (once you get access again anyway) | 17:11 |
| lhinds | thanks hyakuhei | 17:11 |
| lhinds | actually on the topic of OSSN, we only have one pending, which I am working on right now | 17:12 |
| lhinds | the other went out last week. | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | well and this one that you can't see :P | 17:12 |
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| fungi | heh | 17:12 |
| lhinds | and that one too! | 17:12 |
| fungi | there's work for you, we just can't tell you what it is | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | I've emailed asking to add you | 17:13 |
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| hyakuhei | You're not on CC because permissions should be controlled through LP really so they can choose to bring you in | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | which I'm sure they will | 17:13 |
| lhinds | Coo, thanks hyakuhei . I don't its worth doing Syntribos / Bandit just now..can we chat PTG? | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah go straight to PTG | 17:13 |
| lhinds | #topic PTG | 17:13 |
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| lhinds | So I have seen the following: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xmOdT6uZ5XqViActr5sBOaz_mEgjKSCY7NEWcAEcT-A/pubhtml?gid=397241312&single=true | 17:14 |
| fungi | hopefully that says "draft" somewhere | 17:14 |
| fungi | pretty sure i know what that link is anyway, just not in a convenient spot to try and load google docs | 17:14 |
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| lhinds | do you know how confirm the room need fungi (security has a `?`) | 17:15 |
| fungi | diablo_rojo: ^ | 17:15 |
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| fungi | she should be our conduit to all things ptg, i believe | 17:16 |
| lhinds | thx fungi , hyakuhei was anything firmed up around room sharing with barbican? | 17:16 |
| fungi | worst case, e-mail knelson@o.o or follow up to the -dev ml thread from a while back discussing team needs for the ptg (i can't look it up easily at the moment) | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | Hmmm | 17:16 |
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| hyakuhei | Emailing Kendall CC: lhinds now | 17:17 |
| lhinds | thx, fungi - will drop an email out. | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | done. | 17:17 |
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| lhinds | thanks hyakuhei | 17:18 |
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| fungi | fwiw there's a ? next to infra/qa for mon-tue as well last i looked, i expect that's just leaving things open for a last-minute shuffle should something come up with the room sizes | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | lhinds I need to drop early, anything we can't discuss by email ? | 17:18 |
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| lhinds | sure, thats fine hyakuhei , maybe will give you a bell when you get back before I go away | 17:18 |
| diablo_rojo | lhinds, fungi I'm here :) | 17:19 |
| lhinds | hi diablo_rojo | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | Good plan, I'm stateside Sunday-Sunday | 17:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 17:19 |
| fungi | ooh, a diablo_rojo sighting | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | Cheers all :) | 17:19 |
| lhinds | we were just going over PTG room planning | 17:19 |
| diablo_rojo | lhinds, you for sure want Mon-Tues ? | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | bye diablo_rojo (emailed you but I'll defer to whatever lhinds says) | 17:19 |
| lhinds | This is for the security project & barbican | 17:19 |
| diablo_rojo | You want the two of them to share a room? | 17:20 |
| diablo_rojo | Or Security M-Tues and Barbican Wed-Thurs | 17:20 |
| fungi | diablo_rojo: infra for sure wants m-f too while you're updating your notes, fwiw (though pretty sure i said that on the ml thread a month or two back) | 17:20 |
| diablo_rojo | > | 17:20 |
| lhinds | diablo_rojo: yes, I think so..but I guess I may need to clarify with them first. | 17:20 |
| diablo_rojo | lhinds, if you want to share I will put both of you together for Wed & Thursday | 17:21 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, got it :) | 17:21 |
| fungi | :D | 17:21 |
| lhinds | diablo_rojo: I will align with barbican on monday, and then let you know the final ask by email / irc | 17:21 |
| lhinds | i think we might move into their slot diablo_rojo , let me clarify though | 17:21 |
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| lhinds | diablo_rojo: I will also reply with enterpads etc. | 17:22 |
| diablo_rojo | lhinds, sounds good :) Much appreciated. | 17:22 |
| lhinds | thx are all mine diablo_rojo | 17:22 |
| diablo_rojo | lhinds, :) | 17:22 |
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| lhinds | fungi: I spoke with some custodia folks earlier this week, and there were keen to come into the sec meeting. | 17:23 |
| fungi | oh, nice! | 17:23 |
| lhinds | fungi: they are also going into the oslo meeting to give an overview there with a driver proposal. | 17:23 |
| fungi | sounds like a cool synergy | 17:23 |
| lhinds | maybe we can get a short demo and overview. | 17:23 |
| fungi | granted, at least a few of those devs also work(ed) on openstack | 17:24 |
| lhinds | yep..there is a clear need for addressing clear text passwords, well in as much as operators ask about it a lot. | 17:25 |
| lhinds | ok, that's it for PTGs. | 17:25 |
| lhinds | Any VMT bugs need input fungi ? | 17:25 |
| lhinds | publics that is | 17:26 |
| fungi | nothing from me | 17:26 |
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| lhinds | ok, cool. well thanks for coming along fungi - catch you next time :)! | 17:26 |
| lhinds | #endmeeting | 17:27 |
| fungi | other than, you know, there are public vulnerability reports if anyone wants to help dig into them | 17:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:27 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 27 17:27:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-07-27-17.00.html | 17:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-07-27-17.00.txt | 17:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2017/security.2017-07-27-17.00.log.html | 17:27 |
| fungi | thanks lhinds and hyakuhei! | 17:27 |
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