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masahitohi all, time to blazar meeting :-)09:00
masahito#startmeeting blazar09:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 10 09:00:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:00
masahito#topic RollCall09:00
*** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:00
priteau_o/09:00
hiro-kobayashio/09:00
hritoo/09:01
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masahitopriteau_, hiro-kobayashi, hrito: hello09:01
masahitoToday's agenda is09:01
masahito1. Onboarding Room09:01
masahito2. Team Mascot09:01
masahito3. AOB09:02
masahitoanything else?09:02
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GeraldKhi09:03
masahitookay, let's start first item09:03
tejaswihi09:03
masahito#topic Onboarding Room09:03
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masahitoGeraldK, tejaswi: hi09:03
masahitoAs I mentioned the last meeting, Blazar team have the onboarding session in the Sydney Summit.09:03
masahitoI plan to talk about following topics in it.09:04
masahito1. Blazar introduction, 2. Blazar usecase, 3. Blazar Demo and 4. feature plan09:04
masahitoDoes someone have other idea that we need to talk there?09:05
priteau_Do you cover the internal architecture of Blazar in one of the topics?09:06
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masahitopriteau_: I'm thinking #1 covers the architecture.09:07
priteau_OK09:07
GeraldKWill 4. feature plan include a description of the relationship with other projects?09:07
masahitoGeraldK: okay. We only have the relationship with PlacementAPI (Nova) team, right?09:08
masahitoIf someone speaks to other project, please let me know. I'll add it :-)09:09
GeraldKthere may be some relationship with the to-be reaper service that is also of interest to other projects09:09
masahitos/speaks to/speaks with/09:09
GeraldKwhen we look at future plans we may also need to talk to Neutron and Cinder folks?09:10
masahitoGeraldK: yes. If we mention it, it's good to start to talk to other team.09:11
GeraldKok09:12
masahitoGeraldK: but I'm still not clear the requirements for Cinder(Storage/Volume) reservation.09:12
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masahitoother comments for the session?09:14
hiro-kobayashiIs the schedule fixed?09:14
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masahitohiro-kobayashi: not yet b/c other forum sessions are in selection phase.09:15
hiro-kobayashiOK09:15
masahito#topic Team Mascot09:17
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masahitoOfficial OpenStack project can have its mascot.09:18
GeraldK#link https://www.openstack.org/project-mascots09:18
masahitohttps://www.openstack.org/project-mascots09:18
masahitoGeraldK: Thanks :-)09:18
masahitoBlazar is now official project so we can apply our log.09:19
GeraldK+1 to do so09:19
hiro-kobayashi+109:19
masahitoWe can gather the idea this week, then decides the order in the next meeting.09:20
GeraldKmy proposal was a "house mouse"09:20
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priteau_Blazar (astronomy) is an obvious choice, but I don't even know why we are named Blazar…09:21
masahitoIf you have an idea, please listing here or later.09:21
GeraldKmice are territorial animals and dominant males respect each other's territories.09:21
GeraldKalso, we are just a small project :)09:21
hiro-kobayashiGeraldK: Sounds good :-)09:21
priteau_If we go animal like most projects, I would propose a squirrel, because they09:22
priteau_"reserve" nuts for the winter09:22
masahitoGeraldK: sound nice.09:22
masahitopriteau_: me neither. I'm not clear the reason of "Blazar"09:23
hiro-kobayashipriteau: Nice idea!09:23
masahitopriteau_: Glance choose a squirrel, isn't it?09:23
hiro-kobayashimasahito: Oh, yes09:23
GeraldKI like squirrel as we are shelving resources. when it comes to re-using the resources prior to a reservation that does not fit anymore09:23
priteau_masahito: it's a chipmunk09:24
priteau_But I like the mouse too, as long as it's a cute mascot09:24
hiro-kobayashimashito: a bit different, haha09:24
hiro-kobayashis/masahito/priteau/09:24
priteau_GeraldK: in the winter squirrels go dig back the nuts to eat them ;-)09:25
masahitopriteau_: oh, I didn't know there is difference. haha09:25
priteau_I would imagine our mascot would show the entire squirell with a nut in its hands09:26
priteau_so quite different from Glance which shows only the face09:26
hiro-kobayashipriteau_: sounds good!09:27
priteau_GeraldK: how did you envision your mouse would look?09:27
hiro-kobayashiI don't have another idea09:27
masahitoshrike does same behaviors.09:27
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priteau_squirrel could look like this: http://7-themes.com/data_images/out/70/7011607-squirrel-nut.jpg09:28
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GeraldKchipmunk and squirrel as quite close and belong to the same family09:29
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GeraldKany other proposals?09:29
masahitoCurrent proposals are 1. house mouse, 2. squirrel, 3, shrike (4. blazar?), aren't these?09:30
priteau_Forget the squirrel :(09:31
priteau_Each project mascot must be distinct in stylized cartoon illustrations. Therefore, if one team chooses a “squirrel,” another team can’t choose a "chipmunk.”09:31
priteau_Found this on http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/defcore-committee/2016-July/001151.html09:32
priteau_Unless these rules don't apply anymore09:32
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hiro-kobayashiWow09:32
priteau_Although if it looks different enough09:32
priteau_maybe it could work09:33
GeraldKpriteau_: the mouse should hold some cheese09:33
GeraldKhttps://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/tomandjerry/images/2/23/Jerry_with_a_cheese.jpg/revision/latest?cb=2016120703221509:34
GeraldKs/should/could/09:34
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masahitoAnyway, I'll send the list to the openstack-dev. If you come to mind other idea, please replay it.09:34
hiro-kobayashithanks09:35
priteau_Looks like the guidelines have changed a bit since this mailing list post09:35
priteau_Now the mascot page says:09:35
priteau_Mascots are assigned are on a first-come, first-served basis. For example, if a cat has already been selected by one project, then another project interested in a cat-like mascot should choose a significantly different type of cat, such as a leopard or tiger.09:35
masahitoIt's important discussion for us ;-)09:35
priteau_So significantly different species are OK09:36
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hiro-kobayashiSo we have 4 candidates (including blazar)?09:36
masahitoyes.09:36
GeraldKyes. include the blazar.09:37
priteau_What is shrike? The bird? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrike09:37
GeraldKpriteau_: was wondering the same. there should be a page with explanations behind each mascot.09:38
masahitopriteau_: yes. The bird reserves their foods on tree for winter.09:38
priteau_I didn't know about that09:38
GeraldKbirds are also quite territorial animals, so that would also match well09:39
priteau_The problem with a bird like that is that it will be hard to identify when in cartoon form09:39
priteau_It's not very distinctive from any other small bird09:40
GeraldKpriteau_ : yes, and there are already few birds in the list09:40
GeraldK#link https://www.openstack.org/assets/software/mascots/OS-Mascot-Key.pdf09:40
priteau_yes, and the existing birds are very distinctive (parrot, raven, swift, pigeon…)09:40
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masahitopriteau_: yea... right.09:43
masahitoBut final decision, duplication or etc, is done by the Foundation. IMO, it's okay to listing it.09:43
masahitoother comments about mascot?09:44
masahitoif nothing, move on to next.09:44
masahito#topic AOB09:45
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masahitoDoes someone have something to share/discuss/talk?09:46
hiro-kobayashiI have09:47
hiro-kobayashiAbout the state-machine blueprint, I've changed states graphs.09:47
hiro-kobayashiI care backward compatibility for the reservation state machine09:48
hiro-kobayashiPlease check if it is acceptable for Chameleon, priteau09:49
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priteau_hiro-kobayashi: Thanks. I haven't had time to review it yet, but will do ASAP09:50
hiro-kobayashipriteau: thanks!09:50
hiro-kobayashiAfter we make a consensus on the state-machine blueprint, I will also work on the resource monitoring blueprint09:50
GeraldKthanks hiro09:50
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hiro-kobayashiAnd I've been working on the dashboard blueprint: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/blazar-dashboard+branch:master+topic:bp/host-operation-with-dashboard09:51
hiro-kobayashiZuul vote -1 but it does not block merging. So, please review them ;-)09:52
hiro-kobayashiI think Zuul -1 can be solved by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509078/09:52
masahitohiro-kobayashi: Thanks for the great works!09:53
hiro-kobayashiBut there is no way to recheck Zuul check. recheck comment triggers only Jenkins job (Zuul v2).09:53
masahitoI'll review it ASAP.09:53
hiro-kobayashimasahito: thanks!09:53
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hiro-kobayashi2 more patches may come for the dashboard blueprint ;-)09:54
hiro-kobayashiThat's all from me09:54
masahitohiro-kobayashi: thanks again. If you need any help, please let us know.09:55
hiro-kobayashiOK09:55
masahitolast 5 mins09:55
masahitoif nothing, finish the meeting earlier than as usual.09:56
GeraldKokay. thanks and bye to everyone09:58
priteau_Thanks all, good bye!09:58
masahitothanks all, bye09:58
hiro-kobayashiThanks. bye!09:58
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masahito#endmeeting09:58
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Oct 10 09:58:58 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)09:59
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zhurong#startmeeting murano13:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 10 13:01:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is zhurong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'murano'13:01
zhurong#topic RoleCall13:01
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learnmoreHello.13:04
zhuronghi learnmore13:05
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zhurongseems recently everyone are busy with business work :(13:06
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learnmoreAre we the only 2 here?13:06
zhurongyep, just you and me13:07
learnmoreWhen you get a chance, can you review this:  https://review.openstack.org/51011313:07
zhurongI am also busy with business work, Just work overtime to get home13:07
zhurongsure13:08
learnmoreIs the tool, murano-pkg-check supported?13:09
zhuronglearnmore yep, murano now support murano-pkg-check13:09
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learnmoreThe reason I ask is that I tried to use it yesterday and it failed miserably.13:10
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learnmoreFor example, one error I got was :  Incorrect version of UI file "2.4"13:11
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zhurongyou mean upload a murano package, then got the error?13:12
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learnmoreNo, the murano-pkg-check tool does not upload a package.  It's goal is to check if a package is valid.  For example, it checks the format of the UI yaml file.13:13
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zhuronglearnmore UI_VERSION = frozenset(('1.0', '1', '2', '2.0', '2.1', '2.2', '2.3'))13:13
zhurongNow the support version13:14
learnmoreSo this set needs to be updated then.13:14
zhuronghttps://github.com/openstack/murano-pkg-check/blob/master/muranopkgcheck/validators/ui.py13:14
learnmoreIt also gives 3 more errors that are related to new features in 2.4.13:16
learnmoreDo you agree that I should file a bug on this?13:16
zhurongwhy you want to use the version 2.4?13:17
learnmoreWe are  using version 2.4 because it has several new features that we need.  For example, it allows one to call a method to determine the value of a parameter.13:19
learnmoreThe new keyword for this feature is ParameterSource (which also gives an error with murano-pkg-check).13:20
zhurongok, got it, do you want to make the features the the upstream?13:21
zhurongIn this case, you need change the murano-pkg-check valid check code13:22
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learnmoreWhat do you mean 'want to make the features the upstream?'  The features are upstream.13:24
zhurongoh..  sorry13:24
learnmoreI do agree with you that the murano-pkg-check tool needs to be updated wrt valid checks.13:24
zhurongyeah, I agree with this13:25
learnmoreOk.  I'll enter a bug.13:25
zhurongthanks13:25
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learnmoreJust wondering what you are working on in Murano these days?13:25
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zhurongrecently we have the National Day holiday, But I still work overtime at the company13:28
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zhurongWork within the company's products, don't have much time in Murano13:29
learnmoreOvertime...sorry to hear this.13:29
zhurong:(13:29
zhurongevery nigth13:29
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learnmoreHow did you get involved with Murano?13:29
zhurongevery night need too..13:29
learnmoreToo much work and not enough time, eh?13:30
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zhurongrecently is, but this also the company tradition13:31
zhurongIn china, many company need overtime work13:32
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zhurongNow our time is 9:30pm13:33
learnmoreSo we are 12 hours difference.13:33
learnmoreOur time is 9:30am.13:33
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zhurongI am arrived home at 9:00 pm13:33
learnmoreThat is a long work day :(13:34
learnmoreHow did you get involved in Murano?13:34
zhurongyep :(13:34
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zhurongI involved in Murano because the pre-company plan to use murano13:35
zhurongbut didn't use in product at last13:35
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learnmoreThat's too bad they are not using it.  Murano is a good product but it doesn't seem like many people/companies are using it.13:36
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zhurongyep, good to know oracle and AT&T are using it13:37
learnmoreAnyways, I don't have any more questions/comments for you today.  It was nice chatting with you.13:37
zhurongthanks for joining13:38
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learnmoreTil next week.13:38
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zhurongsee you next week, i will end the meeting. :)13:38
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zhurong#endmeeting13:39
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strigazi#startmeeting containers16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 10 16:00:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is strigazi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'containers'16:00
strigazi#topic Roll Call16:00
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slunkad_laptopSayali Lunkad16:00
strigaziSpyros Trigazis16:00
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KwozyManCostin Gamenț16:01
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strigaziThanks for joining the meeting slunkad_laptop KwozyMan16:02
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strigazi#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2017-10-10_1600_UTC16:02
strigazi#topic Announcements16:02
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strigazichange on magnum jobs for zuulv3 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508676/16:02
strigaziI hope this week we can take it16:02
strigazizuulv3 is enabled again16:03
slunkad_laptopoh nice16:03
strigazi#topic Review Action Items16:03
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strigazistrigazi to update https://launchpad.net/~magnum-drivers/+members#active with the current magnum core reviewer list DONE16:03
strigazistrigazi to find an assignee for sync cluster task not running with send cluster metrics [couldn't find, I'll take it]16:03
strigazistrigazi to find an assignee for : OSC client can not delete cluster-template with . (period) in name https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1718930 [couldn't find, I'll take it]16:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1718930 in Magnum "OSC client can not delete cluster with . (period) in name" [Undecided,New]16:03
strigazistrigazi to draft a bp or bug for changes in cluster-update command DONE16:03
strigazihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/172257316:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1722573 in Magnum "Limit the scope of cluster-update for heat drivers" [Undecided,New]16:03
strigazi#topic Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas16:04
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strigazidd support of k8s cluster over opensuse distro https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/k8s-opensuse-support [good progress]16:04
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strigaziAdd support of k8s cluster over opensuse distro https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/k8s-opensuse-support [good progress]16:04
strigaziI added some input in the review, it is for the pep8 error16:05
strigaziwhile we are at it16:05
slunkad_laptopstrigazi: yes it seems to work now but still need add the tests16:05
strigazislunkad_laptop What you can do is16:05
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strigazisomething like this: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/magnum/tree/magnum/tests/functional/k8s_coreos/test_k8s_python_client.py16:06
slunkad_laptopand ya its mostly bashate stuff showing up on the previous files16:06
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strigaziand add the functional test in tox.ini16:07
strigazihttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/magnum/tree/tox.ini#n6816:07
slunkad_laptopstrigazi: ok, how about the image?16:07
strigazislunkad_laptop: is it custom? is it a standard opensuse image?16:07
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slunkad_laptopits a custom image16:07
strigazibuilt with?16:08
slunkad_laptopkiwi16:08
dirkstrigazi: we can build an opensuse image with diskimage builder16:08
strigazidirk: slunkad_laptop you can create a job to build the image on openstack infra16:08
strigazior16:09
strigaziwe can document that a team from opensuse takes care of the builds and hosts them somewhere16:09
dirkstrigazi: likely yes16:09
dirkI think I started it some time ago and never finished it16:09
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strigaziotherwise we can upload them to our space in fedorapeople.org/magnum but having it hosted in opensuse project sounds better to me16:10
strigaziAs you want16:10
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strigazido you have one now so I can use for testing?16:11
slunkad_laptopdirk: I think we can restart the work on building it upstream16:11
dirkstrigazi: if thats a first step that is acceptable then that might be a nice solution while dib issues and infra is sorted out16:12
dirkI definitely think building the images upstream is the good solution to aim for16:12
strigaziupstream to openstack-infra?16:12
dirkcorrect16:12
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strigaziok, maybe we can use kiwi on infra?16:13
dirkthat depends16:13
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dirkkiwi only runs on opensuse nodes easily, and we don't have those (we only have nodepool workers)16:13
dirkits possible that zuulv3 allows that though16:13
strigaziok, we can investigate. For starters a url that is usually up should be ok16:14
strigaziWhen you have an image just add it in the gerrit review so we can tests locally16:15
strigaziAnything else on that?16:16
dirkso you want to run the gerrit review on the xenial workers?16:16
dirkor on opensuse workers?16:16
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slunkad_laptopstrigazi: atm I am testing on a sles based image and we will get a opensuse based image soon so will add that then16:16
strigazidirk whatever works better :)16:16
slunkad_laptopdirk: don't think that would matter really..16:16
dirkstrigazi: ok, sounds like a plan to me. lets move on then16:17
strigaziok, next: Use the heat agent and Software Deployments in heat templates https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/heat-agent16:18
strigaziThe agent on fedora runs very well in a non-docker container16:18
strigaziI just need feedback16:18
strigazi#link https://review.openstack.org/46881616:18
strigazidirk: slunkad_laptop do plan to include the heat-agent in the opensuse image?16:19
strigazior maybe run it in a container?16:19
strigaziwe can discuss it later, next16:20
slunkad_laptopstrigazi: no plans yet but we will look into it16:20
strigaziCluster upgrades https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cluster-upgrades have a look and +1 if you agree with the direction16:20
strigazislunkad_laptop: ack16:20
strigaziI did some good steps with the implementation and this week I'll a good prototype ready16:21
strigazifor now you can see a small demo here: http://test-strigazi-sharing.web.cern.ch/test-strigazi-sharing/upgrade-ish-demo/16:21
strigazi#link http://test-strigazi-sharing.web.cern.ch/test-strigazi-sharing/upgrade-ish-demo/16:22
strigazinext, regarding the bugs on pike:16:22
strigazikubernetes-fedora: Fix prometheus config  [merged]16:22
strigazisync cluster task not running with send cluster metrics enabled [assigned to strigazi]16:23
strigazikubernetes-dashboard is accesible without authorization or authentication with NodePort [no update this week]16:23
strigazidirk: slunkad_laptop you can add kubernetes-dashboard and monitoting with prometheus easily if you want.16:23
strigaziFinally, regarding imit the name of the Instance names https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1718947 , kwozyman will give it a go16:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1718947 in Magnum "Limit the name of the Instance names" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to kwozyman (kwozyman)16:24
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strigaziDo you want to add a comment on the above items?16:25
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strigazislunkad_laptop: dirk having in mind the upgrade capabilities for opensuse you start thinking how you want to do it?16:26
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strigazirebuild the nodes OR run some script inside with the heat-agent to the uprgade16:26
strigazi#topic Open Discussion16:27
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strigaziAny other business?16:27
slunkad_laptopstrigazi: the heat-agent option sounds interesting but will need to look into it further16:28
strigazislunkad_laptop: cool16:28
strigazicool, let's end the meeting early then16:30
slunkad_laptopok bye16:31
strigaziThanks for joining the meeting folks :)16:31
strigazisee you next week :)16:31
strigazi#endmeeting16:31
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dirkstrigazi: sorry, got pulled away, I'll followup16:39
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hogepodge#startmeeting refstack17:05
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openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 10 17:05:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hogepodge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:05
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:05
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mguineyo/17:06
toskyo/17:06
hogepodge#topic agenda17:07
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hogepodge#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-10-10 agenda17:07
pvanecko/17:07
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hogepodgePlease update the agenda, copy and pasted from last week.17:09
hogepodge#topic tempest autoconfig17:09
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hogepodgeStill waiting on this to merge17:10
hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508502/ tempest autoconfig project17:10
hogepodgeWe're put the autoconfig project from Red Hat and RDO under RefStack governance.17:10
hogepodgehaha I just realized that instead of putting +1, I put +!17:11
toskythanks!17:11
hogepodgedefinitely excited about it :-)17:11
hogepodgeany other comments on that work?17:11
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mguineysuper excited about it, tbh17:13
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hogepodge#topic Subunit Upload17:14
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mguineyhello all!17:14
hogepodgehoping to get this patch into shape soon for merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498735/17:14
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hogepodgeLooks like there was a regression?17:14
mguineyyeah, that seems to have been broken by the change we tried yesterday17:15
mguineyi have a syntax thing to try to fix it, planning on having that up by end of meeting, its very minor17:15
hogepodgehmm, ok17:15
mguineyiiiinteresting, it looks like that may not be the case at all17:16
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mguineyok, i will fix17:16
mguineysorry this has taken so long to get ironed out, please check back later today and review17:16
hogepodgeLooks like some syntax changes. Let's get the code in shape to go and if we're still having coverage failure we can revisit it in a later patch17:17
hogepodgethe api spec17:17
hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506826/ spec17:18
hogepodgeluzC mad some great comments on it17:18
mguineyits trying to grab the alembic config from a function that no longer exists where it thinks it does17:18
mguineyon it17:18
hogepodgepvaneck if you can take a look that would be great too17:18
mguineyanyways, yes! i really appreciated those17:18
pvanecksure, i'll review it17:19
mguineyi think that they really helped me to straighten out some unclear wordings, When I originally wrote this, I spent so much time dug into what I was working on that I think that things that make sense to me, in the context of the wordings, may not be entirely clear to anyone else17:20
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mguineybasically *i* know what i mean, independent of actual meaning17:20
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hogepodgemguiney: I'm glad we got some more eyes on it, it's a good spec17:21
hogepodgeany other items on the subunit work?17:21
mguineynope, gonna delve back into subunit2sql tests, as soon as i finish up the last of my first pass at 2018.01 scorings17:22
mguineythat got shoved onto the backburner for a minute, just because other things are shorter term and i know how long specs take to merge :)17:23
mguineyother than that, that is it17:23
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hogepodge#topic result verification17:23
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hogepodgemain script here17:24
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hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499956/ update script17:24
hogepodgewe still need to disable anonymous uploads so we don't have to keep running the script, but I haven't done any work on config and testing17:24
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hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507695/ disable anonymous upload17:25
hogepodgeI need to write tests for that, and also add a configuration option to not break other users17:25
hogepodgemguiney: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504358/ should be abandoned?17:25
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hogepodgeah, nevermind, it's already abandoned. My bad17:27
mguineyah yes, just merged it into the main patch17:27
mguineythe content of it, i mean17:27
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hogepodgemguiney: are you still working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499956/ ?17:28
hogepodgewill you let us know when it's ready for review?17:28
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mguineyit is!17:28
hogepodgeok, great!17:28
mguineyi just realized that i hadnt removed the misplaced tox.ini mods17:28
mguineyso since it was a 10 second fix, i reset it to master and pushed it. should pass tests, given that it was just a reset to master state17:29
hogepodgeok, I'll get a review in once jenkins/zuul has posted17:29
hogepodgeanything else on this work?17:29
mguineythank you!17:29
mguineykind of17:29
luzCo/17:30
mguineyI have a patch (i know i have a lot up, and we dont have a ton of review bandwith right now, but this is actually pretty handy, for the refstack db update process)17:30
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mguiney(hello luz! thank you for the excellent reviews!)17:30
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mguiney#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503495/17:31
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mguineythis patch, which was a feature originally suggested by CatherineD at the boston summit, was something that I didnt have time to get into the original script, but that makes life a lot easier in using it17:32
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mguineyit basically just builds in the option to generate a new token if you dont already have a currently valid one, along with letting you know if updated failed because of an invalid or nonexistent or expired token17:33
luzCmguiney: any time ;)17:33
hogepodgethis builds on the previous patch?17:34
hogepodgehi luzC !17:34
mguineyto be honest, i would love to add a more generalized version of this somewhere into refstack-client, because it does the token auth testing for you, but given how much is going on right now, it17:34
mguineyseems like a good idea to drop it, for the time being17:34
mguineyhogepodge: yes, this is built into the update script17:34
hogepodgemguiney: can you add it as a topic to the agenda so it will carry forward?17:34
mguineyoh absolutely, apologies17:35
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hogepodgeno need to apologize, I think it's a good idea and I want to capture it17:35
mguineyshould it be under the refstack db update, given that its actually not a critical thing to running the script on prod?17:35
hogepodgeyeah, we can stage the merges17:35
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mguiney(more of a thing to use for users who  arent as familiar with the landscape)17:35
mguineycool, will add17:36
mguineyi'd just forgotten to bring it up, last meeting17:36
mguineyah its already there. is that new?17:36
hogepodgeI don't think so17:37
mguineyprobably not. anyways, thank you!17:37
hogepodgeOk, that's a good lead into the next topic17:37
hogepodge#topic replace ostestr with tempest run17:37
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hogepodgeTempest moved off of ostestr and it's been causing some problems for users.17:38
hogepodgeThese patches merging will require bump of tempest version17:38
hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503209/ ostestr to tempest run17:38
hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509934/ parallel test running17:39
hogepodgethe first being more critical than the second17:39
hogepodgeluzC: I don't understand why dynamic credentials won't work, but I'm probably missing something17:39
hogepodgeisn't refstack client just a front end for tempest, so any valid config would work?17:39
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luzCfor the credentials in particular... it support only pre-provisioned which comes with using the accounts.yaml17:41
hogepodgeluzC: why?17:42
luzCI think the reason is that we want tempest to be run with a non-admin user17:42
hogepodgeit's a policy choice and not a technical barrier though?17:42
luzCcorrect17:42
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hogepodgeok17:43
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luzCwhen you use dynamic credetials in tempest it requires admin credentials because it create the resources on the fly (including additional users/ tenants/ etc)17:43
hogepodgeI can remove that to discourage admin use. Anyone else have comments on that?17:44
hogepodgeyeah, some clouds just send their full test results up, because they're testing anyway so just use existing jobs17:44
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hogepodgewe don't reject results with admin credentials, we just don't require admin17:45
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hogepodgeluzC: I can make the change to only talk about additional creds in accounts.yaml, to be consistent with the rest of our policy17:46
luzCyes, that would be good17:46
hogepodgepvaneck: I made the changes you suggested to the first path. thanks for catching that17:46
luzCas you mentioned is just to discourage admin use17:47
hogepodgeany other comments on these patches?17:47
pvaneckhogepodge: good, probably good for merge then17:47
hogepodgepvaneck: cool. if luzC or catherine can take a look we can get it in.17:48
mguineyhogepodge: one thought-17:48
hogepodgeyeah?17:49
mguineyif we remove the admin credentials usage thing, would it perhaps make sense to add a refstack-client flag that would just autogenerate an accounts file, so the user doesnt even have to think about it?17:49
mguineythere is already a script that does that, of course, but just add a flag that's like "please run this script ahead of time, i dont even want to think about user credentials"17:50
hogepodgemguiney: one of the issues is creating a user account requires admin creds, and not all users would have them17:50
mguineyahhhhh fair17:50
hogepodgethere are other fixtures that need to be set up beforehand too17:50
* mguiney nods17:50
hogepodgelike images, networks, and so on. So it's presumed that in public clouds these things already exist17:50
hogepodgewith the time winding down, need to move on to scheduling for the next month17:51
hogepodge#topic upcoming meeting scheduling17:51
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hogepodgeI'm not going to be available on October 17, I'll be at a workshop in Austin.17:52
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hogepodgeI'll also be traveling on October 31 to the summit, and will be at the summit on the 7th17:52
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hogepodgeSo that leaves one meeting time left in the month, October 24. Are we ok with that? Does anyone want to run a the meeting next week or on the 31st?17:53
mguineyi'd definitely like to try and keep reviews/progress moving forward, if possible17:54
luzCI think we can skip next week and on the 24th assess again17:54
hogepodgeI lieu of a meeting next week, do you want to send out review reminders mguiney?17:55
mguineysounds good, what would be the best way to do that?17:55
hogepodgeto help keep moving things forward?17:55
mguineyand apologies, /me hates productivity choke points17:55
hogepodgejust send an email out to the regular team members and cores with a list of reviews?17:55
mguineysounds good!17:56
hogepodgeI'm hoping we get a few of these reviews merged this week to start moving things forward some more17:56
ltosky[m]or to openstack-dev@?17:56
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hogepodgeltosky[m]: sure, that works too. wider audience. use the [refstack] tag on it17:56
hogepodgethat's a good idea17:56
ltosky[m]yep17:57
mguineycan do17:57
hogepodgeI'll send a notice to the mailing list about the schedule for the next two weeks also17:57
mguineywill make a note in my calendar to have that on deck and ready send17:57
luzCsounds like a plan :)17:57
hogepodgeI'll leave the floor open for a few more minutes for discussion on any other topics.17:58
hogepodgeThanks everyone!17:58
mguineygood meeting!17:58
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hogepodge#endmeeting18:00
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"18:00
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mguineybye all, have a good week!18:00
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