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| masahito | hi, time to blazar meeting | 09:00 |
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| masahito | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 17 09:00:52 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| masahito | #topic RollCall | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:01 | |
| hiro-kobayashi | o/ | 09:01 |
| hrito | o/ | 09:01 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi hrito: hi | 09:02 |
| GeraldK | o/ | 09:02 |
| masahito | Today's agenda is | 09:02 |
| masahito | 1. Team Mascot | 09:02 |
| priteau | o/ | 09:02 |
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| masahito | 2. State Machine | 09:02 |
| masahito | 3. Q-1 milestone | 09:02 |
| masahito | 4. AOB | 09:02 |
| masahito | anything else? | 09:02 |
| masahito | GeraldK priteau: hello | 09:02 |
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| masahito | #chair hiro-kobayashi, priteau | 09:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hiro-kobayashi masahito priteau | 09:03 |
| masahito | #topic Team Mascot | 09:03 |
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| masahito | As we discussed at the last meeting, we can choose our team mascot. | 09:04 |
| GeraldK | how do you want to proceed with the selection? | 09:05 |
| masahito | we have 5 candidates b/c bauzas replayed the mail in openstack-dev. | 09:05 |
| masahito | 1. house mouse, 2. squirrel, 3. shrike, 4. blazar, 5. weather frog | 09:05 |
| masahito | GeraldK: I think the selection is done by +1 voting here. | 09:06 |
| masahito | and decides the order by the number of +1 | 09:07 |
| GeraldK | masahito: okay | 09:08 |
| masahito | it's easy to count +1 on irc because we are small team :-) | 09:08 |
| priteau | We should give the option to vote by email if some contributors are not here | 09:08 |
| priteau | e.g. Bertrand is not online? | 09:09 |
| GeraldK | priteau: I will ask him to join | 09:09 |
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| masahito | bertys: hi | 09:11 |
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| bertys | masahito: hi, sorry for being late | 09:11 |
| masahito | bertys: we'll start the voting +1 for our team mascot. | 09:12 |
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| masahito | the candidates are 1. house mouse, 2. squirrel, 3. shrike, 4. blazar, 5. weather frog | 09:12 |
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| priteau | Do we choose a single candidate? | 09:13 |
| masahito | I wanted to ask same question :-> | 09:13 |
| GeraldK | priteau: i guess so as we can only have one mascot | 09:14 |
| priteau | GeraldK: yes, of course. But I mean, can each of us express a preference for just one candidate, or several (maybe ordered?) | 09:15 |
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| masahito | priteau GeraldK: to ask the Foundation of our mascot, we needs multi mascot because they check regal problem for it. | 09:15 |
| masahito | priteau: we're 6 or 7. so IMO, everyone can choose multi candidates. | 09:15 |
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| GeraldK | priteau: okay | 09:16 |
| masahito | okay. I'll start to ask voting from #1. if you like the candidate, please write +1. | 09:17 |
| hiro-kobayashi | +1 | 09:17 |
| priteau | +1 | 09:17 |
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| masahito | +1 | 09:18 |
| hrito | +1 | 09:18 |
| masahito | #1 is house mouse | 09:18 |
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| tejaswi | +1 | 09:19 |
| GeraldK | +1 | 09:19 |
| masahito | does anyone else have +1 for house mouse? I'll wait in 30 secs | 09:19 |
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| masahito | okay 6 +1s for #1 | 09:20 |
| masahito | next, voting for #2, squirrel | 09:21 |
| priteau | +1 | 09:21 |
| masahito | +1 | 09:21 |
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| masahito | does anyone else have +1 for squirrel? I'll wait in 1 min. | 09:22 |
| bauzas | masahito: just got highlighted so I won't interfere, but openstackstatus provides #startvote for that exact purpose :p | 09:23 |
| masahito | bauzas: oh... thanks :p I didn't know that. I'll try to use it next. | 09:25 |
| masahito | squirrel gets 2 +1s. | 09:25 |
| masahito | next is voting for #3, shrike. | 09:25 |
| masahito | +1 | 09:26 |
| hrito | +1 | 09:26 |
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| GeraldK | +1 | 09:27 |
| masahito | Does anyone else have +1 for shrike? I'll finish it in 1 min. | 09:27 |
| masahito | shrike gets 3 +1s. | 09:28 |
| masahito | next voting is for #4, blazar. | 09:29 |
| hrito | +1 | 09:29 |
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| GeraldK | +1 | 09:29 |
| tejaswi | +1 | 09:30 |
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| masahito | Does anyone else have +1 for blazar? I'll finish in 1 min. | 09:30 |
| masahito | blazar gets 3 +1s. | 09:31 |
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| masahito | the final candidate is weather frog. | 09:32 |
| bertys | +1 | 09:33 |
| masahito | Does anyone else have +1 for weather frog? I'll finish in 1 min. | 09:34 |
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| masahito | weather frog gets one +1. | 09:35 |
| masahito | then the voting result is.... | 09:36 |
| masahito | house mouse got 6 +1s | 09:36 |
| masahito | shrike and blazar got 3 +1s | 09:36 |
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| masahito | squirrel got 2 +1s. | 09:37 |
| masahito | then weather frog got one +1 | 09:37 |
| masahito | I'll ask the Foundation of our team Mascot with following order. | 09:38 |
| masahito | house mouse, blazar or shrike. | 09:39 |
| masahito | any comments? | 09:39 |
| masahito | okay, then move on to the next topic. | 09:41 |
| masahito | #topic State Machine | 09:41 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | I proposed this agenda | 09:42 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: you have some topics? | 09:42 |
| hiro-kobayashi | yes. I proposed a spec for the state-machine bp https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508093/ | 09:42 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Thanks for reviewing it | 09:43 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | http://docs-draft.openstack.org/93/508093/3/check/gate-blazar-docs-ubuntu-xenial/82ed0a6//doc/build/html/devref/specs/queens/state-machine.html | 09:43 |
| hiro-kobayashi | In the spec, I proposed *_DEGRADED states for the lease, and *_RESOURCES_CHANGED and *_MISSING_RESOURCES states for the reservation | 09:44 |
| hiro-kobayashi | And priteau proposed to remove these states | 09:44 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Instead, priteau proposed to add new boolean fields: ‘degraded' field for the lease, ‘missing_resources' and ‘resources_changed' field for the reservation | 09:44 |
| hiro-kobayashi | priteau's idea LGTM | 09:45 |
| priteau | Note that I am not sure if that's a good idea. Just something that occurred to me while reviewing. | 09:45 |
| priteau | I am thinking from the point of view of a developer using the API | 09:45 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I think pros/cons of introducing new boolean fields are: | 09:46 |
| hiro-kobayashi | pros: state graph becomes simpler than current spec | 09:46 |
| hiro-kobayashi | pros: implementation may be simpler | 09:46 |
| hiro-kobayashi | cons: DB schema changes | 09:47 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Any other pros/cons? | 09:47 |
| priteau | They might have to write code like "if status == NOT_STARTED_DEGRADED or status == ACTIVE_DEGRADED: alert user" | 09:47 |
| priteau | rather than "if lease.degraded: alert user" | 09:47 |
| masahito | another cons is undesired status could happen, like status == pending and changed flag is True | 09:48 |
| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: yes. So, degraded flag may simplify implementation | 09:48 |
| priteau | Thinking about how the Ironic state machine work, they have an "active" node status, even though the node can be in "maintenance" (boolean) at the same time | 09:48 |
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| masahito | priteau: It looks strange situation for me. How do they handle it? | 09:50 |
| hiro-kobayashi | masahito: I think lease can ignore the changed flag when it's NOT_STARTED | 09:50 |
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| priteau | masahito: maintenance is a flag that can be set by the admin for any state | 09:51 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: of course, lease can ignore the situation. My concern is the situation happens by bugs. | 09:52 |
| masahito | priteau: only the status change is triggered by admin? if so it makes sense. | 09:53 |
| hiro-kobayashi | masahito: yes, we need a mechanism that checks relationships between the status and flags. | 09:53 |
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| masahito | From my experience, if the flag is changed by both admin and blazar internal tasks, the undesired status could happen. | 09:54 |
| priteau | in our case the admin wouldn't change these flags | 09:55 |
| priteau | It would be managed by blazar | 09:55 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | I think degraded and related flags should be updated only by blazar internal tasks | 09:55 |
| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: +1 | 09:55 |
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| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: there is a mechanism that avoid the situation, I'm ok to use the flag. | 09:56 |
| hiro-kobayashi | masahito: ok | 09:57 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: do you have proc/cons for only using status? | 09:57 |
| hiro-kobayashi | pros: do not need to care flags | 09:57 |
| hiro-kobayashi | cons: state graphs becomes complex | 09:58 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I think introducing degraded flags are better than including them in the status. | 09:58 |
| hiro-kobayashi | So I'm going to update the spec to introduce degraded flags. | 09:59 |
| hiro-kobayashi | How do you think? | 09:59 |
| masahito | okay, I'll check it once you have updated it. | 09:59 |
| priteau | One advantage of flags is that if we need more of them in the future, existing client code that use states should remain compatible | 09:59 |
| hiro-kobayashi | masahito: thanks! | 09:59 |
| bertys | hiro-kobayashi: from our past discussions, the description of case 3 should be: At least one of reservation states is ACTIVE (best effort approach)? Is this the correct understanding? | 10:00 |
| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: yes, it is important | 10:00 |
| hiro-kobayashi | bertys: are you talking about the resource-monitoring spec? | 10:00 |
| bertys | hiro-kobayashi: I am looking at lease_states.png | 10:01 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Oh, sorry. misunderstood. | 10:01 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Yes, I think it should be At least one of reservation states is ACTIVE (best effort approach) | 10:02 |
| masahito | hi all, time is running out. I'll end the meeting and move to #openstack-blazar. | 10:02 |
| bertys | hiro-kobayashi: ok, thanks | 10:02 |
| hiro-kobayashi | or, become ERROR even if at least one reservation is not ACTIVE | 10:02 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I think the former is better. | 10:03 |
| hiro-kobayashi | masahito: ok | 10:03 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Anyway, keep discussion at gerrit :-) | 10:04 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I'll propose the update in this week | 10:04 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: I'll wait it. | 10:05 |
| masahito | bye | 10:05 |
| masahito | #endmeeting | 10:05 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 17 10:05:21 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-10-17-09.00.html | 10:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-10-17-09.00.txt | 10:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-10-17-09.00.log.html | 10:05 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Thanks! see you! | 10:05 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 17 15:02:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:02 |
| pcarver | hi | 15:03 |
| tmorin | hi pcarver | 15:03 |
| tmorin | pcarver: not seeing much people around except the two of us | 15:03 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: do you have anything you would like to bring up | 15:09 |
| tmorin | pcarver: if not, I would do a short summary for the record, and be done | 15:09 |
| pcarver | not really. There's been a little bit going on with networking-opencontrail in relation to networking-bgpvpn, but my time has mostly been on OpenContrail governance, not specific to development. | 15:10 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: yes, I saw the opencontrail BGPVPN gerrit changes, and noticed they were put on hold by sukhdev | 15:14 |
| tmorin | pcarver: can you tell what is their exact status ? | 15:14 |
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| pcarver | not really, we have a general strategy but I'm not sure how close we are to having a fully solidified design | 15:15 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: ok... | 15:26 |
| tmorin | #topic tldr summary | 15:26 |
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| tmorin | few people => shot meeting | 15:26 |
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| tmorin | current work in progress is: ... | 15:27 |
| tmorin | * BGPVPN EVPN VNI is on its path (neutron-lib change landed, waiting for a neutron-lib release before python-neutronclient and networking-bgpvpn changes can have tests passing) | 15:27 |
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| tmorin | * BGPVPN routes-control extension is on track as well, with a discussion pending around a change I would prefer to land in neutron to avoid a kludge (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511280/) | 15:30 |
| tmorin | * bagpipe driver: RPC refactoring with OVO-based push/pull is also progressing | 15:30 |
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| tmorin | that's is | 15:36 |
| tmorin | I'm closing the meeting now before I forgot and block the room :-/ | 15:37 |
| tmorin | thanks pcarver! | 15:37 |
| tmorin | bye | 15:37 |
| tmorin | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
| pcarver | bye | 15:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 17 15:37:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-10-17-15.02.html | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-10-17-15.02.txt | 15:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-10-17-15.02.log.html | 15:37 |
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