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| edleafe | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 18 14:00:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| ttsiouts | o/ | 14:00 |
| edleafe | Welcome to the last scheduler meeting of 2017! | 14:00 |
| edleafe | Who's here? | 14:00 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 14:00 |
| leakypipes | o/ | 14:01 |
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| edleafe | Small crowd today, so let's make this a quick one | 14:02 |
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| edleafe | #topic Specs and Reviews | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs and Reviews (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:02 | |
| edleafe | Does anyone have a review that needs discussion? | 14:02 |
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| alex_xu | I have question about whether we still need a microversion for trait parameter in AllocationCandidates API? or just let Eric's granular request cover that? | 14:03 |
| edleafe | alex_xu: which patch actually changes the placement API? | 14:03 |
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| leakypipes | alex_xu: I think probably just letting Eric's granular requests patch can cover that. | 14:04 |
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| cdent | mlllebbb | 14:05 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517757/ | 14:05 |
| alex_xu | ^ the Eric one | 14:05 |
| alex_xu | leakypipes: yea, I'm also thinking about that | 14:05 |
| alex_xu | I didn't get any reason why we need a separate version for that, but want to double check with you guys | 14:06 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/479776 | 14:07 |
| alex_xu | btw ^ the old one for a separate microversion | 14:07 |
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| edleafe | Any other questions about reviews? | 14:08 |
| leakypipes | alex_xu: sounds like there's no real disagreement... let's just use eric's granular patch as the patch to add the microversion addition. | 14:08 |
| alex_xu | leakypipes: yea, agree with that | 14:09 |
| leakypipes | cool | 14:09 |
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| edleafe | #topic Bugs | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:11 | |
| edleafe | No new bugs this week | 14:11 |
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| edleafe | Anyone know any good bug jokes? | 14:11 |
| edleafe | #topic Open discussion | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:12 | |
| edleafe | Anything? Last chance to speak up until Jan 8 | 14:12 |
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| edleafe | All right, then. Happy holidays to all! | 14:14 |
| cdent | yay! silence for a few weeks! | 14:14 |
| edleafe | #endmeeting | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:14 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 18 14:14:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-12-18-14.00.html | 14:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-12-18-14.00.txt | 14:14 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2017/nova_scheduler.2017-12-18-14.00.log.html | 14:14 |
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| jeblair | hi, are zuul folks around? | 22:00 |
| jlk | o/ | 22:00 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 22:00 |
| clarkb | hello | 22:00 |
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| jeblair | mordred, SpamapS, tobiash, tristanC: courtesy ping :) | 22:01 |
| jeblair | #startmeeting zuul | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 18 22:02:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zuul' | 22:02 |
| SpamapS | o/ | 22:02 |
| jeblair | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zuul | 22:02 |
| jeblair | #link previous meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-12-11-22.01.html | 22:03 |
| jeblair | #topic roadmap | 22:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roadmap (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:03 | |
| jeblair | we've cleared a *lot* of stuff off the road map! | 22:03 |
| jeblair | #link roadmap changes: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FFbJanDCQ7 | 22:03 |
| SpamapS | Indeed | 22:03 |
| jeblair | i just went over the list, and that's all the 3.0 blockers sorted by status | 22:03 |
| SpamapS | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/search?tags=zuulv3.0 | 22:04 |
| SpamapS | Lot 'o green | 22:04 |
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| * mordred waves | 22:04 | |
| jeblair | since the last meeting we've merged nodepool quota, zuul-web, the git driver, the finger gateway, the private api key url fix, and bumped the gitpython dep! | 22:04 |
| jeblair | okay i lied about the git driver | 22:05 |
| jeblair | it's been approved but ran into the sphinx issues | 22:05 |
| jeblair | it's as good as merged though | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001336 is done then? | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | Oh right | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | lagfail | 22:05 |
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| jeblair | so YAAAY! thanks everyone for doing those! | 22:06 |
| pabelanger | o/ | 22:06 |
| jhesketh | nice work :-) | 22:06 |
| mordred | jeblair: fwiw, sphinx fix has landed, rechecking the git driver patch | 22:06 |
| jeblair | and thanks to the the reviewers, and folks that have stuff in progress -- which is most of the rest of the list! :) | 22:06 |
| rcarrillocruz | does it mean zuul-web now consumes GH POST ? | 22:07 |
| SpamapS | I don't think that part is quite done. | 22:07 |
| SpamapS | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001327 | 22:07 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: oops missed that on the etherpad list. i think that one is in progress? | 22:07 |
| rcarrillocruz | ack | 22:08 |
| jeblair | some combination of tobiash/jlk are working on that, i think? | 22:08 |
| jlk | Mostly tobiash at this point, I'm distracted elsewhere | 22:08 |
| SpamapS | My understanding is that tobiash is making the GHE tech preview of apps work. | 22:08 |
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| jeblair | cool | 22:08 |
| rcarrillocruz | yeah, someone had been rebasing, just wondered i missed that getting merged | 22:08 |
| SpamapS | but could be also working on the ingestion in zuul-web | 22:09 |
| jeblair | it may be worth a checkin with tobiash to see if that's still on his list or if it could use another volunteer to push it along | 22:09 |
| jeblair | mordred: should we talk about the javascript patches for a sec? | 22:10 |
| mordred | ++ - it might also be worthwhile to either rebase that patch on top of tobiash's patches for ghe apps or vice versa - but certainly in coordination with tobiash | 22:10 |
| mordred | jeblair: yup | 22:10 |
| jeblair | i haven't dived in to review them yet -- will probably be tomorrow at this point for me | 22:10 |
| mordred | so - I was doing to write an email about what reviewers might want to look at - but I'll just do that here :) | 22:10 |
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| mordred | the first and most important thing is - do the results still work - just like storyboard, the patches add a 'draft' publication that points to the live zuulv3 endpoint | 22:11 |
| jeblair | that's so cool i love it | 22:11 |
| mordred | so: http://logs.openstack.org/38/487538/15/check/build-javascript-content/3432950/npm/html/status.html?source_url=http://zuulv3.openstack.org | 22:11 |
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| jeblair | if you switch views, you have to stick the source_url on the end again, yeah? | 22:12 |
| mordred | the builds and jobs links from the status page do not curently work in the draft setup - I'll get that fixed soon | 22:12 |
| mordred | jeblair: yes - that's where I was getting with that | 22:12 |
| SpamapS | that's.. kind of amazing | 22:12 |
| mordred | builds don't work right in the first patch ... | 22:13 |
| mordred | but if you go down the stack a little ways, http://logs.openstack.org/98/528298/10/check/build-javascript-content/2e5b6ac/npm/html/builds.html?source_url=http:%2F%2Fzuulv3.openstack.org | 22:13 |
| SpamapS | Note that it makes me also want to have a static "good example" json that we stick in there that can be used so that they don't have to do the whole dance with zuulv3.openstack.org | 22:13 |
| mordred | http://logs.openstack.org/98/528298/10/check/build-javascript-content/2e5b6ac/npm/html/jobs.html?source_url=http:%2F%2Fzuulv3.openstack.org | 22:13 |
| jeblair | ah goot to know :) | 22:13 |
| mordred | SpamapS: we have one! | 22:13 |
| mordred | SpamapS: (lucky for you) | 22:13 |
| clarkb | mordred: did the old status vs new status stuff get untangled in the stack (that was the one thing I ran into when I briefly poked at things) | 22:13 |
| jeblair | clarkb: old status / new status? | 22:14 |
| mordred | clarkb: can you define "old status vs new status"? | 22:14 |
| clarkb | jeblair: mordred was making changes to make all the old status stuff keep working, but it should just be deleted imo and reduce the review overhead | 22:14 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes- it's all collapsed into one | 22:14 |
| jeblair | ++ | 22:14 |
| mordred | SpamapS: your question leads to the next thing I'd suggest people review ... which is the README file in web/README.rst | 22:15 |
| mordred | I tried to write it so that it has enough information for people to casually touch it or for people who want to go deeper | 22:15 |
| mordred | I *highly* recommend trying out "npm run start:status" - as that launches the status page in a local dev webserver - and is plubmed in to trigger hot refreshes of the app when you make local code chagnes | 22:15 |
| mordred | (and for me is one of the things that's nice enough to make me value learning the new tools) | 22:16 |
| clarkb | mordred: my first reaction was "I'm glad pip doesn't run a web server" | 22:16 |
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| mordred | clarkb: yah. :) | 22:17 |
| mordred | clarkb: 'npm run build' will justmake the static files as if they were for production and then put them into zuul/web/static | 22:17 |
| mordred | other things to mention - the build produces 'map' files, so that exceptions thrown in browser can be debugged with pre-minified source code (which is nice) | 22:18 |
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| mordred | the stack also sets up transpiling using a javascript tool called "babel" (not the same as the python one with the same name) | 22:18 |
| pabelanger | mordred: are you still considering move the JS / web bits in different repo (eg: zuul-dashboard)? | 22:18 |
| mordred | that allows us to write modern javascript without having to worry about old browsers | 22:18 |
| clarkb | mordred: so its compiling js to js | 22:19 |
| clarkb | just different versions of browsres | 22:19 |
| mordred | pabelanger: not today - that's a deeper conversation that has pros and cons, but the stuff is done right now assuming all-in-one-repo | 22:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: yah | 22:19 |
| pabelanger | ack | 22:20 |
| mordred | oh - that brings up the largest gotcha on my TDL for this code - which is that we have a zuul unittest that assumes the existence of the html/js files (it checks that streaming is working) | 22:20 |
| jeblair | mordred: which test? | 22:20 |
| mordred | I'm assuming it's going to take a few days for folks to review - so I should have a solution to that before it's time to land (same thing with the status/builds/jobs links) | 22:20 |
| mordred | jeblair: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487538/15/tests/unit/test_streaming.py | 22:21 |
| clarkb | couldn't you just test the python bits directly? | 22:21 |
| mordred | yah - that's what I'm thinking - rewrite it to just hit the websocket API | 22:21 |
| jeblair | mordred: i thought that just opened a websocket connection? | 22:21 |
| mordred | jeblair: it becomes rather unhappy if the html files aren't there - it's next on my list of things to debug properly | 22:22 |
| jeblair | mordred: ok cool. i think the *intention* is that it's just testing websocket, so i think a fix to that that ignores any static/js deps that have leaked in sounds reasonable | 22:22 |
| mordred | I *think* it's because it starts ZuulWeb in a thread, and ZuulWeb becomes unhappy that it can't find its static files - rather than anything actually impacting the test itself | 22:23 |
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| mordred | jeblair: cool | 22:23 |
| mordred | I'll probably do that as a followon patch for now so that we don't need another rebase patch flood | 22:23 |
| jeblair | mordred: ++. anything else we should know? | 22:24 |
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| mordred | don't think so - mostly having people grok the docs and play with the build/run commands to make sure things make sense | 22:24 |
| mordred | I've also started on a similar patch for our friends with storyboard-webclient - since the tooling in use there is actually deprecated | 22:25 |
| * jhesketh adds topic:zuul-javascript-tooling to his review queue | 22:25 | |
| clarkb | should we expect all this tooling to be deprecated in 6 months too :) | 22:25 |
| jeblair | ya -- if folks can play with that this week, it's probably a good idea to get lots of devs trying it out since we don't all use mordred's laptop | 22:26 |
| mordred | but nobody here needs to necessarily review that - just saying trying to apply the learning from here to over there so that those of us who look at both can look at a thing that's the same | 22:26 |
| jhesketh | looks awesome mordred (& whoever else worked on it) | 22:26 |
| mordred | jhesketh: thanks! remind me to tell you some stories about all the things I've learned about javascript frameworks, btw | 22:26 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: i think feverish-mordred also worked on it, but hopefully all his code has been replaced :) | 22:26 |
| jhesketh | sounds like a great beer conversation | 22:26 |
| mordred | jeblair: oh - one more thing ... | 22:26 |
| mordred | there are a couple of diffrent approaches we can take to some of how this works, I've picked one that made the most sense to me at the time - but I think that once people poke at this a bit having a discussion to make sure we're happy about that would be nice to have with the team | 22:27 |
| mordred | most notably as it relates to the intersection of html and javascript - webpack happily supports having no html files, generating small stubs and then building the html in javascript directly, which is similar to how status works | 22:28 |
| * SpamapS has to flip to a diff meeting now | 22:28 | |
| jeblair | mordred: are there notes about other options in the changes themselves, or should we just have a general discussion after the holidays? | 22:28 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: o/ | 22:28 |
| mordred | then angular has a notion of html templates that are being used in builds and jobs which require us to have at least some amont of html in the tree | 22:28 |
| mordred | jeblair: I think we should just have a general discussion - it won't be hugely invasive to change our approach, even in a few months | 22:29 |
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| mordred | it's more of a "which worldview do we like, and which one would we, as a team, prefer to focus on" | 22:29 |
| jeblair | mordred: sounds good. so as long as this approach works, we can try it out and gain context for that discussion later... | 22:29 |
| mordred | but I think people likely need to get their hands dirty first | 22:29 |
| mordred | jeblair: ++ | 22:30 |
| clarkb | mordred: fwiw I found the angular to be really easy to understand as a non front end webby person | 22:30 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ++ i like this approach to angular | 22:30 |
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| mordred | clarkb: me too - although I now finally understand what's going on in the other angular too - but I don't think I would hav egotten there without tristanC's excellent work | 22:31 |
| jeblair | mordred: thanks for all this work, i'm excited :) | 22:31 |
| jeblair | jlk: you want to update us on your latest adventures with github3.py? | 22:32 |
| jlk | sure! | 22:32 |
| jlk | So github3.py is going through a refactor: https://github.com/sigmavirus24/github3.py/issues/670 | 22:33 |
| jlk | and the upstream author would like that to conclude before making a release | 22:33 |
| jeblair | there's a 'work items' list in that issue, btw | 22:33 |
| jeblair | have to scroll down to it, i don't see a way to deep-link | 22:34 |
| jlk | I've offered to help with that work, and upstream took me up on it. I now have merge / review rights, and my presence has spurred upstream to start work again | 22:34 |
| jlk | of note, https://github.com/sigmavirus24/github3.py/pull/747 landed just recently, my first stab at a work item | 22:34 |
| jlk | now I can take on further items from that work list, and together we may get this done relatively soon. (weeks, given the holiday). | 22:35 |
| jeblair | sweet! | 22:35 |
| jlk | I also ran across another library https://github.com/PyGithub/PyGithub which may be worth looking into, if github3.py work draws out. | 22:35 |
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| jlk | and I dug into what it would take to just do our own thing with requests. | 22:36 |
| jlk | It'd be a fair amount of work to do our own thing, re-implementing some things like iterating over paginated returns and such | 22:36 |
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| mordred | yah - those are where all the fun is | 22:37 |
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| jlk | "easy" enough to copy/paste, but that's kinda shitty behaviour | 22:38 |
| jlk | anyway, that's where things are. I'm going to keep banging on github3.py this week, and some of next week around the holiday. | 22:38 |
| mordred | jlk: do you have a good sense for whether that work list is a month, several months or a year? | 22:39 |
| mordred | (now that you're diving in and landing stuff) | 22:39 |
| SpamapS | Is there some reason a release can't happen in a sort of stable-bugfix fashion? | 22:40 |
| jlk | mordred: Im' guessing weeks, not months | 22:40 |
| jlk | SpamapS: well, it'd be "no features, except for this one we really want" type release. Might be possible, but I wanted to try this path first | 22:41 |
| SpamapS | Like the refactor is 0.9.6, but I see there's a 1.0.0a4 .. can we maybe help get a 0.9.7 out with the fixes we need? | 22:41 |
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| mordred | jlk: cool. so it sounds like you jumping in and helping should potentially let us cut a release without taking on the cost of any work-around behaviors | 22:42 |
| jlk | that's my hope | 22:42 |
| jlk | SpamapS: I also hoped to gain some good will, and show some good faith, before asking for special treatment, or pushing to be allowed to do a point release (with our needed feature). | 22:43 |
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| SpamapS | Yeah sounds like Ian's stretched a bit thin on it. | 22:44 |
| jeblair | jlk: ++ that seems like the nice thing to do. | 22:44 |
| jeblair | sounds like maybe we stay on this course for now, and check in after holidays about whether we should continue, beg for a release, or change to pygithub. | 22:44 |
| jlk | sounds fair | 22:45 |
| jeblair | also, i'm assuming if anyone wants to pick up one of those work items and earn more brownie points, they are available :) | 22:45 |
| mordred | ++ | 22:45 |
| jlk | I can help anybody who wishes to do that. | 22:46 |
| jeblair | jlk: thanks for diving in! yay cross-project collaboration! | 22:46 |
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| mordred | \o/ | 22:47 |
| jeblair | i want to update folks on the zuul-ci.org work i've been doing | 22:47 |
| jeblair | the openstack-infra spec to host such sites was approved | 22:47 |
| jeblair | and i'm very close to having both dns and mailing list hosting implemented | 22:47 |
| * mordred hands jeblair a pie | 22:48 | |
| jeblair | i'm optimistic that shortly after the holidays, at the latest, we'll be able to have zuul-specific mailing lists at lists.zuul-ci.org | 22:48 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: have you had a chance to go through my reviews on the mailman stuff? | 22:49 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: not yet | 22:49 |
| jeblair | clarkb: are they 'fix small things' or 'it will never work' reviews? :) | 22:50 |
| clarkb | fix small things | 22:50 |
| jeblair | cool; i'll switch back to that as soon as i get the dns stuff up | 22:50 |
| clarkb | and I think we need to semi schedule a cut over as the config has laready drifted enough that some things were missed in the update openstacl lists list | 22:50 |
| jeblair | folks may have noticed an openstack-infra/zone-zuul-ci.org repo | 22:51 |
| jeblair | that will contain the dns entries for zuul-ci.org | 22:51 |
| jeblair | i'm expecting that to be managed by us -- probably just give zuul-core rights on that? | 22:51 |
| jeblair | (though, i'm also not expecting it to change very often) | 22:51 |
| * SpamapS returns from other lame meeting | 22:52 | |
| jeblair | or, zuul-core + infra-core to be more specific | 22:52 |
| SpamapS | very excited to hear there's a zuul website going up! | 22:52 |
| clarkb | well no A records in the zone when I last read it :) | 22:53 |
| clarkb | but this is step 0 to that | 22:53 |
| mordred | clarkb: who needs A records :) | 22:53 |
| jeblair | yeah, that's like step 3 or 4. it is in the plan. :) | 22:53 |
| * SpamapS wants AAAA records | 22:54 | |
| jeblair | SpamapS: they will be there :) | 22:54 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: along with RRSIG :) | 22:54 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: have you had a moment to work on the github reporting? | 22:54 |
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| jeblair | also, in parallel, since we're almost out of time -- i think the next time this meeting is scheduled not on a holiday is january 8, 2018 | 22:55 |
| jeblair | shall we plan on skipping until then? | 22:56 |
| clarkb | I will not be around on a monday until then | 22:56 |
| clarkb | the 2nd we will have the infra meeting though so can talk important things there if they come up | 22:56 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ++ like how much our heads still hurt | 22:57 |
| jeblair | #info next meeting january 8, 2018 | 22:58 |
| clarkb | exactly | 22:58 |
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| jeblair | thanks everyone! | 23:00 |
| jeblair | have happy holidays! :) | 23:00 |
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| jeblair | #endmeeting | 23:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 18 23:01:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-12-18-22.02.html | 23:01 |
| jhesketh | Cheers, happy holidays! | 23:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-12-18-22.02.txt | 23:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2017/zuul.2017-12-18-22.02.log.html | 23:01 |
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