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| masahito | hi blazar folks, time to blazar meeting :-> | 09:00 |
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| masahito | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 19 09:00:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| masahito | #topic RollCall | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| priteau | o/ | 09:01 |
| bertys__ | o/ | 09:01 |
| masahito | priteau, bertys__: hello | 09:01 |
| masahito | Today's agenda is | 09:01 |
| masahito | 1. resource monitoring | 09:02 |
| masahito | 2. next meeting | 09:02 |
| masahito | 3. AOB | 09:02 |
| masahito | anything else? | 09:02 |
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| masahito | hiro-kobayashi is out of town today | 09:02 |
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| masahito | #topic resource monitoring | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "resource monitoring (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:04 | |
| masahito | This topic is raised by hiro-kobayashi. | 09:04 |
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| masahito | As I commented in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524054/, resource-monitoring re-calculate ALL allocations on a failed host. | 09:05 |
| masahito | My comment and hiro's replay are https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524054/10/blazar/plugins/oshosts/host_plugin.py@690 | 09:06 |
| masahito | priteau: do you have a preference or an idea for this because you're an operator of Blazar. | 09:07 |
| priteau | I haven't seen these comments yet, just a minute | 09:07 |
| masahito | got it. | 09:07 |
| priteau | I had a day off yesterday | 09:07 |
| masahito | np | 09:07 |
| bertys__ | masahito: this is related to what we discussed last week during the code review. The first challenge is that Masakari, Vitrage and Congress behave differently once a host failure has been detected | 09:07 |
| bertys__ | masahito: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526598/1/masakari/engine/drivers/taskflow/host_failure.py | 09:08 |
| bertys__ | For Masakari for instance, the compute node is first disabled | 09:08 |
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| priteau | It's a hard problem because Nova doesn't give information about how long a node might be disabled for | 09:09 |
| bertys__ | Whereas for Vitrage and Congress, the compute node is marked down | 09:09 |
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| masahito | The summary is that resource-monitoring tries to re-allocate ALL reservations which use the failed host. | 09:09 |
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| masahito | but the question is that should Blazar re-allocate a reservation which will starts in a year later? | 09:10 |
| priteau | As operators, we often have to do a quick maintenance session on a node which has errors, but it could last only a few minutes | 09:10 |
| masahito | bertys__: thanks for sharing the info. | 09:10 |
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| priteau | masahito: I think we could combine "time since the node has been down or disabled" plus "time until the lease start" to come up with something sensible | 09:11 |
| priteau | e.g., if a node has been disabled only for 30 minutes, there is no urgency in reallocating leases that are a month away | 09:12 |
| GeraldK | I agree. We could define a threshold of e.g. 1 day | 09:12 |
| GeraldK | we could also introduce a background service that is then 1 day ahead of the start time verifying that resources are still available and trying to re-allocate otherwise | 09:13 |
| masahito | GeraldK: meaning 1 day for detecting failure? or 1 day advance re-allocation? | 09:13 |
| GeraldK | masahito: 1-day advance re-allocation | 09:14 |
| masahito | GeraldK: got it. | 09:14 |
| priteau | Should be configurable | 09:15 |
| GeraldK | the operator can set the parameter according to his requirements and preferences | 09:15 |
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| masahito | yes, of course. | 09:15 |
| masahito | Looks like approach #2 is better for this | 09:16 |
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| bertys__ | Does this mean that we would implement a new event "before_start_date"? | 09:16 |
| masahito | bertys__: I don't think it's needed. | 09:17 |
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| masahito | bertys__: I though the approach we discuss is Blazar re-allocate reservations which starts in configured time. | 09:18 |
| masahito | so the Blazar checks only start_time of each lease. | 09:19 |
| bertys__ | ok it seems I have misunderstood GeraldK's intention | 09:20 |
| GeraldK | we may have some misunderstanding here | 09:20 |
| masahito | priteau's idea is adding a decision time frame to detect whether the host is really failed or not. | 09:21 |
| GeraldK | let me try to summarize my proposal: | 09:21 |
| GeraldK | host down event and reservation start time is more than 1 day (configurable) ahead -> no re-allocation | 09:22 |
| GeraldK | as we don't know how long the host will be down, a background service/before-start-date event will check 1 day ahead of the start time whether the node is still down. if yes, try to re-allocate | 09:23 |
| GeraldK | if host down and start time less then 1 day ahead -> immediate re-allocation | 09:23 |
| GeraldK | does that make sense? | 09:24 |
| priteau | We already have the event processing pool running every 10 seconds. The manager could create an event to remind itself of checking whether the lease is ok | 09:25 |
| masahito | GeraldK: Blazar doesn't re-allocate 1 day ahead reservations in second check for host status, right? | 09:25 |
| masahito | GeraldK: meaning 3 days ahead leases at the event of host failure are re-allocated 2 days later. | 09:26 |
| priteau | That's my understanding of GeraldK's proposal | 09:27 |
| masahito | me too. | 09:27 |
| GeraldK | masahito: no, so far it does not. but if we want to omit re-allocation of reservations that are in the long future (>1 day ahead), wouldn't we need such option ? | 09:27 |
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| GeraldK | priteau's proposal to have the manager create an event to remind itself (to check periodically, e.g. every 24 h, or to check 1 day ahead of start time) sounds good to me | 09:29 |
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| priteau | And my additional proposal is to add to GeraldK's by having a minimum time required to confirm that a host is down | 09:29 |
| GeraldK | masahito: sorry, mis-read you message. yes. that is true. | 09:29 |
| priteau | e.g. 30 seconds, or 5 minutes (configurable) | 09:29 |
| masahito | Users can reserve resources that start in 1 month or year. So it could have lot's of re-allocations. | 09:29 |
| masahito | priteau: it's good to have. the monitor system has polling, so we can use the periodic task. | 09:30 |
| GeraldK | masahito: that is why I proposed to re-allocate only in the case the node is still unavailable 1 day ahead of the start time | 09:30 |
| masahito | GeraldK: np, my wrong grammar could miss lead you. | 09:31 |
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| masahito | okay, looks like we got a good idea for the problem. | 09:33 |
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| masahito | any comments for the topic? | 09:34 |
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| masahito | #topic next meeting | 09:36 |
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| masahito | Next week is a last week of this year. | 09:37 |
| GeraldK | I will be out of office in the next two weeks | 09:37 |
| masahito | So lots of area could be in holiday weeks or days. | 09:38 |
| masahito | And I'm also out of office in two weeks. | 09:38 |
| masahito | If there is less people we can skip next two meetings. | 09:39 |
| priteau | That's fine for me | 09:40 |
| masahito | okay. | 09:40 |
| masahito | Then next meeting is 9th January. | 09:40 |
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| masahito | I'll announce it in openstack-dev. | 09:40 |
| masahito | #topic AOB | 09:41 |
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| masahito | Does someone have something to share/discuss? | 09:41 |
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| masahito | FYI: Q-2 is released on last Friday. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526616/ | 09:43 |
| masahito | Thank you everyone in the team! This milestone was good progress to the team. | 09:43 |
| GeraldK | Congratulations to the team for this milestone. | 09:44 |
| priteau | Are we going to release a new client soon? | 09:44 |
| priteau | We now have the gate jobs to push to PyPI | 09:44 |
| masahito | priteau: thanks for heading up this. | 09:44 |
| masahito | I'll push the patch soon. | 09:44 |
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| priteau | Thanks | 09:46 |
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| masahito | anything else? | 09:50 |
| masahito | If nothing we can finish early today. | 09:50 |
| priteau | Thanks everyone | 09:51 |
| priteau | Enjoy the holidays | 09:51 |
| GeraldK | thx. happy holidays. | 09:52 |
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| masahito | Thanks all. have a good holidays! | 09:53 |
| masahito | #endmeeting | 09:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 19 09:53:40 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-12-19-09.00.html | 09:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-12-19-09.00.txt | 09:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-12-19-09.00.log.html | 09:53 |
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| strigazi | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 19 16:00:35 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is strigazi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:00 |
| strigazi | agenda: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2017-12-19_1600_UTC | 16:01 |
| strigazi | #topic Roll Call | 16:01 |
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| oikiki | o/ | 16:02 |
| oikiki | I'm here! | 16:02 |
| rochapor1o | o/ | 16:02 |
| strigazi | hi oikiki | 16:02 |
| oikiki | hi strigazi! | 16:02 |
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| strigazi | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:04 | |
| strigazi | Next Meeting on the 9th of January 2018 | 16:04 |
| strigazi | And | 16:04 |
| strigazi | Change of meeing time | 16:05 |
| slunkad | hi | 16:06 |
| oikiki | what will be the new time? | 16:06 |
| strigazi | I'm trying to find a time more convenient for New Zealand and China since there is a lot of interest from there recently comparatively to the US, sorry oikiki :( | 16:06 |
| oikiki | aww :( | 16:07 |
| oikiki | i'll have to read the archives then | 16:07 |
| strigazi | #action strigazi to look for a new meeting time APAC friendly | 16:07 |
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| slunkad | hopefully it's not to early for us | 16:08 |
| strigazi | slunkad: morning in Europe would work for youright? | 16:08 |
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| slunkad | :D | 16:08 |
| strigazi | I aim for 9am | 16:08 |
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| strigazi | #topic Blueprints/Bugs/Ideas | 16:09 |
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| slunkad | strigazi: 10am would be better, do you create a poll? | 16:09 |
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| rochapor1o | nz is +12h right now | 16:10 |
| strigazi | slunkad: I'll send an email aroundm 10 UTC in the winter is 11 in the summer though | 16:10 |
| rochapor1o | from central europe. so gmt+13 | 16:10 |
| slunkad | strigazi: alright, yeah it should be possible | 16:11 |
| strigazi | ok, I'll send an email to ask opinions but 8UTC look like a candidate | 16:12 |
| strigazi | back to the discussion for Bugs/Reviews | 16:13 |
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| strigazi | Pass OpenStack control place certificates to all nodes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525662/ is in pretty goot shape | 16:14 |
| strigazi | and as soon as is in we will backport since it is the number one problem that new magnum deployments face | 16:14 |
| strigazi | oikiki: Can you cherry-pike your verify_ca patch to stable/pike ? | 16:14 |
| strigazi | we will need this as well. | 16:15 |
| oikiki | strigazi: Sure, I'm not sure how to do that though | 16:15 |
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| strigazi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447687/ this one | 16:16 |
| strigazi | from the gerrit ui, click cheery-pick :) | 16:16 |
| oikiki | checkout stable/pike then take the verfiy_ca commit and commit to that branch? | 16:16 |
| oikiki | ooh | 16:16 |
| oikiki | ok | 16:16 |
| oikiki | i will do that! | 16:17 |
| slunkad | oikiki: you should use git cherry-pick | 16:17 |
| oikiki | thanks slunkad! Just found it :) | 16:17 |
| strigazi | Next, the patch to use software deployments with the heat-agent is in for kubernetes, I'll push it to the other drivers too. | 16:18 |
| rochapor1o | thanks for that, already using it :) | 16:18 |
| strigazi | Since we will have space now, rochapor1o is working on adding the option to enable an ingress controller | 16:19 |
| strigazi | starting with traefik | 16:19 |
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| strigazi | If there is demand we can add more options, nginx, octavia, envoy etc | 16:20 |
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| strigazi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528756/ | 16:21 |
| strigazi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1738808 | 16:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1738808 in Magnum "Configure ingress controller in kubernetes clusters" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Ricardo Rocha (rocha-porto) | 16:21 |
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| rochapor1o | the first patch adds traefik without ssl | 16:22 |
| rochapor1o | a follow-up patch will add ssl too | 16:22 |
| rochapor1o | later i'll try to add nginx too | 16:22 |
| rochapor1o | it's then up to users/operators to configure the backend in the template or cluster | 16:22 |
| strigazi | That was from me | 16:24 |
| strigazi | #topic Open Discussion | 16:24 |
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| strigazi | oikiki: I saw your patch, I'll have a look | 16:25 |
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| oikiki | strigazi: thank you! I'm not sure if I put the param in the correct place. | 16:25 |
| strigazi | slunkad: Do you have anything today? | 16:25 |
| slunkad | strigazi: no not really | 16:25 |
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| strigazi | slunkad: ok | 16:26 |
| strigazi | oikiki: we can have a look after the meeting | 16:27 |
| oikiki | ok | 16:27 |
| strigazi | Anything else to discuss? | 16:27 |
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| strigazi | let's end the meeting then. See you next year or in #openstack-containers | 16:28 |
| strigazi | #endmeeting | 16:28 |
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| rochapor1o | happy new year! | 16:28 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 19 16:28:52 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2017/containers.2017-12-19-16.00.html | 16:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2017/containers.2017-12-19-16.00.txt | 16:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2017/containers.2017-12-19-16.00.log.html | 16:28 |
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| mguiney | #startmeeting refstack | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 19 17:01:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mguiney. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 17:01 |
| mguiney | anyone here for refstack meeting? | 17:02 |
| mguiney | i know a few people are scheduled to be out, if nobody's around i may end the meeting super early | 17:02 |
| mguiney | in the meantime, i'll finish cleaning up the agenda and link it | 17:03 |
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| mguiney | #agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-12-19 | 17:06 |
| mguiney | or rather | 17:07 |
| mguiney | #link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-12-19 | 17:07 |
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| mguiney | aight. its 9:10, looks like everyone has headed out for the holidays, gonna call it a cancellation | 17:11 |
| mguiney | #endmeeting | 17:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 19 17:11:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-12-19-17.01.html | 17:11 |
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