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| edleafe | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 12 14:00:08 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
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| tssurya | o/ | 14:00 |
| gibi | o/ | 14:00 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 14:00 |
| edleafe | Good UGT morning! Especially to those recently switched to DST | 14:00 |
| alex_xu_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| * bauzas ressurects from his house | 14:01 | |
| arvindn05 | DST got me up 1 hr early :) | 14:01 |
| edleafe | arvindn05: I usually need lots of coffee to do that :) | 14:02 |
| edleafe | Small crowd today - guess we'll blame DST for that | 14:03 |
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| edleafe | Let's try to make this quick | 14:03 |
| edleafe | #topic Specs | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:03 | |
| edleafe | There are a bunch of 'em | 14:04 |
| edleafe | I've listed them in the agenda: | 14:04 |
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| edleafe | #link Meeting Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaScheduler#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:04 |
| * gibi just inserted an extra one to the end of that list | 14:04 | |
| cdent | o/ | 14:04 |
| bauzas | I also need to add another one | 14:04 |
| bauzas | for NUMA | 14:04 |
| edleafe | Please do! | 14:04 |
| cdent | was distracted trying to explain cache allocation support to non-openstack person... | 14:05 |
| edleafe | Rather than go through each, I wanted to have a central list of those we need to review | 14:05 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: you can remove the second one. it was just some ideas I had after the PTG and is long-term thinking, not for Rocky. | 14:05 |
| edleafe | And then only discuss the ones that have questions | 14:05 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: ack | 14:05 |
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| edleafe | I should give credit - I compiled the list of things (and review topics) from cdent | 14:06 |
| * efried waves late (IRC client disconnected without warning) | 14:06 | |
| edleafe | the placement email is wonderful | 14:06 |
| jaypipes | ++ | 14:06 |
| edleafe | saves me a lot of time :) | 14:06 |
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| edleafe | So... anything in those specs we need to discuss? | 14:07 |
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| arvindn05 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541507/ - latest comment from john garbutt | 14:08 |
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| cdent | not specifically on the traits, but perhaps later for the opens, some general things came up | 14:08 |
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| cdent | (my comment is semi-related to arvindn05's spec too) | 14:10 |
| bauzas | I need to review those specs, that's it :) | 14:10 |
| arvindn05 | the concern seems to be user can add traits on glance image which can request "chargable" traits without the need to go through flavor | 14:10 |
| edleafe | I have it open for re-review, too | 14:10 |
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| arvindn05 | we could solve it by adding a configuration option to force image traits with flavor traits and not be a union....but wanted to get thoughts | 14:12 |
| edleafe | arvindn05: it doesn't seem to to be fresh in anyone's mind at the moment | 14:12 |
| edleafe | Let's review and leave comments / thoughts there | 14:13 |
| bauzas | ++ | 14:13 |
| arvindn05 | ahh..k...i will leave the comments there....not major so should be able to resovle via comments | 14:13 |
| edleafe | Any other specs to discuss? Noting cdent's traits thing for Open | 14:13 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: it's fresh in my mind. just not sure it's something we want to tackle at this point. frankly, certain image metadata has *always* been a "chargeable" trait -- for instance all the NUMA crap -- and it's not like we have a special solution to that other the protected properties. | 14:14 |
| jaypipes | this is just one of those problems with having billing based on a tightly-coupled concept like flavors. | 14:15 |
| * edleafe shakes his fist at Rackspace | 14:15 | |
| jaypipes | not just RAX :) AWS, GCE, Azure all do billing this way... | 14:16 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: but it was RAX that insisted it be that way in Nova | 14:16 |
| bauzas | ... | 14:16 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: sure, but that's ancient history ;) | 14:16 |
| edleafe | Well, I'm an ancient guy | 14:16 |
| jaypipes | hehe | 14:17 |
| jaypipes | anyway, I'm happy to move on past this and just say protected image properties are, well, protected... | 14:17 |
| edleafe | OK, let's move on then | 14:17 |
| bauzas | fortunately, image metadata changed a lot since 1.5 years | 14:17 |
| edleafe | #topic Reviews | 14:17 |
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| bauzas | now they are objectified | 14:17 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: actually, it's barely changed in 7 years. | 14:17 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: at least, what's coming from glance I mean. | 14:18 |
| edleafe | I listed the "main themes" of development that cdent had in his email in the agenda | 14:18 |
| bauzas | yeah from the glance standpoint, I agree | 14:18 |
| bauzas | but from a nova standpoint, that's much better | 14:18 |
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| edleafe | We can go through them quickly | 14:18 |
| * jaypipes has one patch to discuss -- more about resource tracking.. | 14:18 | |
| edleafe | efried: I assume Update Provider Tree work hasn't moved much since PTG? | 14:18 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: needs a rebase. | 14:19 |
| efried | edleafe: I haven't had a chance to check up on it yet. | 14:19 |
| efried | okay, I'll try to get to that today, unless someone else wants to volunteer. | 14:19 |
| edleafe | efried: cool, just checking | 14:19 |
| jaypipes | efried: I would, but I'm going to be busy on the mirroring aggs thing | 14:20 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: yeah, I had you to talk about the mirroring work | 14:21 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: anything to discuss? Or still being worked on? | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: still need to finalize the spec. haven't started on the code yet. | 14:21 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: gotcha | 14:21 |
| edleafe | next theme: Request Filters | 14:22 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: around? | 14:22 |
| dansmith | yeah | 14:22 |
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| edleafe | I'm just starting the API change for agg filtering of A/Cs | 14:22 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: besides reviews on your series, anything you need to bring up? | 14:22 |
| dansmith | my series is blocked on getting that api added to placement, | 14:23 |
| dansmith | which edleafe is gonna do | 14:23 |
| dansmith | so I haven't really been doing much with it until that happens | 14:23 |
| jaypipes | k | 14:23 |
| edleafe | dansmith: will have something by late today or tomorrow, I hope | 14:23 |
| dansmith | sweet, thanks | 14:23 |
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| * edleafe hopes he doesn't keep getting pulled into meetings | 14:24 | |
| edleafe | Next: the tantalizingly-titled "Forbidden Traits" | 14:24 |
| jaypipes | heh | 14:24 |
| edleafe | cdent? | 14:24 |
| * jaypipes still needs to finalize that spec review. | 14:24 | |
| bauzas | just a question, why "forbidden" and not "avoided" ? | 14:25 |
| * bauzas loves to rathole during meetings | 14:25 | |
| cdent | I was waiting on the spec to resolve before starting on an implementation | 14:25 |
| bauzas | call me pedantic | 14:25 |
| edleafe | bauzas: dunno - I wanted "negative" | 14:25 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: avoided is not the right word, IMHO | 14:25 |
| cdent | forbidden and avoided mean different things | 14:25 |
| bauzas | heh, no worries | 14:25 |
| efried | ditto negative | 14:25 |
| dansmith | negative would be okay, although I personally like forbidden | 14:25 |
| bauzas | anyway, it was just a pun | 14:25 |
| bauzas | won't comment on the spec for that :) | 14:26 |
| jaypipes | I try to avoid rat-holing on semantics, but I'm not forbidden from doing so. | 14:26 |
| edleafe | it's just adding a boolean NOT | 14:26 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: NOT any or NOT all? | 14:26 |
| bauzas | shit, I created a discussion just about a pun | 14:26 |
| bauzas | kill me | 14:26 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: since required is all, forbidden should be all too, no? | 14:26 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: I would actually think it should be NOT any... | 14:27 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: i.e. "if the provider has any of these traits, filter it out" | 14:27 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: yeah, that's what I thought I was saying | 14:27 |
| edleafe | IOW, all are forbidden | 14:28 |
| * cdent gets out his semantics workbook | 14:28 | |
| bauzas | anyway | 14:28 |
| bauzas | let's call it "forbidden" and just add a nice documentation explaining what's for | 14:28 |
| edleafe | It was noted in the placement email that Consumer Generations has not been started, so the last main theme to discuss is Extraction | 14:29 |
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| cdent | I split up the resource provider object move into three patches as requested by dansmith | 14:29 |
| cdent | including above those are some other extraction related patches | 14:30 |
| bauzas | Inventories, Allocations, RPs ? | 14:30 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: no... resource class fields, nova/objects/resource_provider.py move, and oslo.versionedobjects basing. | 14:30 |
| cdent | #link move rp objs to placement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540049/ | 14:30 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: this isn't about splitting out the objects inside resource_provider.py but rather removing it from the nova/objects directory. | 14:31 |
| bauzas | ack | 14:31 |
| bauzas | thanks | 14:31 |
| jaypipes | np | 14:31 |
| cdent | splitting up the file based on object type would be nice to do eventually but is not currently on the radar (as far as I know) | 14:31 |
| jaypipes | ack | 14:31 |
| * bauzas nods (about not being a priority) | 14:31 | |
| edleafe | yeah, the file is big but not unworkable | 14:32 |
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| edleafe | Any other reviews anyone wants to discuss | 14:32 |
| edleafe | ? | 14:32 |
| jaypipes | yes | 14:33 |
| jaypipes | this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532924/ | 14:33 |
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| bauzas | hah | 14:34 |
| bauzas | it's related to the allocations discussion | 14:34 |
| jaypipes | with all respect to maciej, the mess of default values and upgrade steps in there is too dangerous to mess with like that, IMHO. | 14:35 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: well, we should maybe add him to the convo we had about alloc ratios | 14:35 |
| bauzas | and the spec itself | 14:35 |
| bauzas | the fact that people would like to change the ratio default value is understandable | 14:36 |
| jaypipes | the whole block of cruft in the ComputeNode._from_db_obj() to deal with "Liberty computes" is going to lead to a situation where it will be impossible to tell whether or not an allocation ratio on an aggregate should be applied to a resource provider or not. | 14:36 |
| bauzas | but maybe those operators would prefer to rather discuss about the next spec;) | 14:36 |
| bauzas | like, I don't remember whether OVH said they were okay with deprecating the possibility to set ratios thru nova.conf | 14:37 |
| bauzas | but that folk was at the PTG | 14:37 |
| jaypipes | and if the default allocation ratios are changed (back) to 16.0/1.5/1.0 from the current 0.0 values, there will be no conceivable way to determine what to set the dang values to. | 14:37 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: at the PTG, dansmith offered up a solution to use new configuration options (default_xxx_allocation_ratios) that would only be used for initializing a new compute node's allocation ratios | 14:38 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I'll comment the patch and tell him to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/544683/ | 14:38 |
| bauzas | yeah I remember | 14:38 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: and I think dansmith is correct to say that we will need a new option and not try to jury-rig this crap any more than it already has been | 14:38 |
| bauzas | what I'm trying to explain is that instead of him working on his sole patch, I'd be interested in him chiming on the spec :) | 14:38 |
| dansmith | we need *something* other than just this | 14:39 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: so if you don't mind, I'm going to -2 that particular patch./ | 14:39 |
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| bauzas | I'm fine with that | 14:39 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: that's cool with me, of course. | 14:39 |
| bauzas | again, just make sure that he knows https://review.openstack.org/#/c/544683/ | 14:39 |
| bauzas | if you -2 it | 14:39 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: did we decide at the PTG who might be responsible for doing this? you didn't volunteer for that right? just want to make sure I'm not stepping on something you wanted to work on. | 14:40 |
| bauzas | the spec needs an update | 14:40 |
| bauzas | at least | 14:40 |
| bauzas | with what we agreed at the PTG | 14:40 |
| dansmith | no, I guess I didn't think it got much traction, so I don't know that anyone is on the hook for it | 14:40 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: yeah, I'm not even talking about the agg allocation ratio spec (yet). | 14:40 |
| bauzas | I'll *try* to help | 14:40 |
| bauzas | once I'm done with shitty paperworking | 14:41 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: k, I will work with bauzas and maciej on this then. we definitely need to solve this default allocation ratio (for the compute node, not agg) before proceeding with anything else on the aggregate side. | 14:41 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: heh.. yeah, I need to expense report stuff today as well. | 14:41 |
| dansmith | ack | 14:41 |
| * edleafe just realized he has expense report crap too | 14:42 | |
| bauzas | jaypipes: see my note on #nova about the paperwork thingy | 14:42 |
| jaypipes | heh. ok, back to you edleafe | 14:43 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: thank you kind sir | 14:43 |
| edleafe | #topic Bugs | 14:43 |
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| edleafe | #link Placement bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement&orderby=-id | 14:43 |
| edleafe | No new bugs this week | 14:43 |
| bauzas | sec | 14:43 |
| bauzas | abotu bugs | 14:43 |
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| edleafe | go for it | 14:43 |
| bauzas | I haven't triaged for 3 weeks | 14:43 |
| bauzas | now we have a shit number of untriaged and new bugs | 14:43 |
| bauzas | so, disclaimer: that's not because you had no new placement bugs that there couldn't be placement bugs :p | 14:44 |
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| cdent | there is a new bug this week: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1751692 | 14:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1751692 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "os_region_name an unnecessary required option for placement " [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:44 |
| bauzas | if folks feel enough brave to face the beast and fight it | 14:44 |
| bauzas | ... | 14:44 |
| cdent | which I think needs some deciding | 14:44 |
| edleafe | cdent: oh, that was from a few weeks ago | 14:45 |
| edleafe | I thought it would have been discussed last week | 14:45 |
| bauzas | cdent: we used that option for a signal | 14:45 |
| cdent | its the wrong option | 14:45 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: signal for what? | 14:45 |
| cdent | edleafe: yeah, not new, rather unchanged | 14:45 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: for finding whether nova.conf was set for placement | 14:46 |
| bauzas | I don't exactly remember why the others were not possible to use, but AFAIK os_region_name was like the rare only ones that were good for signaling | 14:46 |
| * edleafe is very calendar-literal | 14:47 | |
| * jaypipes doesn't remember the patch that added this signal or discussing it | 14:47 | |
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| bauzas | the idea was that you had to amend nova.conf to amend placement things before restarting nova-compute in Ocata | 14:47 |
| bauzas | now we are post that, maybe that defensive approach becomes useless | 14:47 |
| bauzas | it was more for an upgrade perspective | 14:48 |
| bauzas | like, you have to make things in order to have things to works | 14:48 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: right, but just trying to connect to the placement service would provide the same signal, no? | 14:48 |
| efried | os_region_name should be deprecated at this point, since the ksa adapter work. | 14:48 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: IIRC, we weren't hard-failing when I introduced that | 14:49 |
| bauzas | ie. the RT was just working "the old way" | 14:49 |
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| bauzas | now, it's indeed a blocking error | 14:49 |
| cdent | efried: that's the exact point of the bug | 14:49 |
| bauzas | hence my point, just kill the conditional I guess | 14:49 |
| bauzas | but the ideal would be to test | 14:50 |
| bauzas | my point being that configuring access to placement is a prerequisite | 14:50 |
| bauzas | if you haven't done that in Rocky, you should be already in serious trouble | 14:51 |
| edleafe | So are we agreed? | 14:52 |
| bauzas | I guess | 14:52 |
| * bauzas just adding a bug comment | 14:52 | |
| edleafe | Let's move on, then | 14:53 |
| edleafe | #topic Open Discussion | 14:53 |
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| edleafe | cdent: did you have something about traits? | 14:53 |
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| cdent | my two comments on the end of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541507/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/497733/ are related to the general topic of "what's authoritative about traits" and "do we ever need to block them being reported" | 14:53 |
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| cdent | neither comments is directly related to the reviews, just inspired by them | 14:54 |
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| bauzas | that reminds me some good efried's point about removing traits if the virt driver tells nothing | 14:55 |
| cdent | yes, that's part of it | 14:55 |
| bauzas | so, I think there is an agreement that if the driver reports nothing, then remove the trait | 14:56 |
| bauzas | trait(s) even | 14:56 |
| edleafe | since traits are on RPs, then the RP should be authoritative. For compute, that would be the virt driver, right? | 14:57 |
| bauzas | I'm not sure a CPU feature could just suddently disappear, but from a conceptual PoV, I just feel we need to keep the driver responsible for passing the traits accordingly | 14:57 |
| efried | That's how I feel edleafe | 14:57 |
| bauzas | yeah that | 14:57 |
| efried | But there was disagreement at the PTG. | 14:57 |
| bauzas | now, there is a trap | 14:57 |
| bauzas | ironic can have some intermittent issues | 14:57 |
| bauzas | where it could report dumb | 14:57 |
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| efried | That sounds like an ironic bug (title: Ironic reports dumb) | 14:58 |
| bauzas | I think we basically said that that special case was just an exception handling | 14:58 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: if the virt driver reports nothing, but an admin has set a trait on the compute node, we delete what the admin set? I don't think that's correct. | 14:58 |
| bauzas | during the ironic/nova discussion at the super loudy and noisy breakfast room | 14:58 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: hah, sec | 14:59 |
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| bauzas | that's another concern | 14:59 |
| bauzas | here, I'm just talking of the fact that if the driver says "I have foo" and later says "I have bar", then we should add bar and remove foo | 14:59 |
| cdent | nearly out of time, continue in #openstack-nova? | 14:59 |
| efried | jaypipes: IMO, what that means is that "admin sets a trait" needs to take some form that ultimately means "virt driver sets that trait". | 14:59 |
| jaypipes | FTR, I have the exact same concern about allocation ratios being set externally by an admin and being overwritten by the compute node resource tracker every periodic interval | 14:59 |
| efried | jaypipes: Which may or may not be what your spec suggests. | 15:00 |
| bauzas | I think at the PTG, we agreed on the fact that we can merge operator's defined traits with driver's defined traits | 15:00 |
| bauzas | on an additive way | 15:00 |
| efried | That way lies madness ^ | 15:00 |
| edleafe | Moving to -nova. Thanks everyone! | 15:00 |
| edleafe | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| efried | But yes, that's what we "agreed" on. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 12 15:00:44 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| cdent | thanks edleafe | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-03-12-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-03-12-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-03-12-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| corvus | anyone around for a zuul meeting? | 22:00 |
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| clarkb | hello | 22:00 |
| Shrews | around-ish (making dinner) | 22:00 |
| fungi | definitely around | 22:01 |
| corvus | #startmeeting zuul | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 12 22:01:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is corvus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zuul' | 22:01 |
| corvus | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zuul | 22:01 |
| corvus | #link previous meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zuul/2018/zuul.2018-02-19-22.01.html | 22:01 |
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| SpamapS | o/ | 22:01 |
| corvus | #topic Action items | 22:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:01 | |
| tobiash | o/ | 22:02 |
| corvus | rbergeron to mail list with times she signed people up for after thorough research and hope for non-conflict to do zuul interviews for yayyyy, content | 22:02 |
| corvus | that, or something like it, happened! | 22:02 |
| corvus | i think zuul interviews were had at the ptg | 22:02 |
| fungi | i didn't see the interviews. anybody have a link? | 22:02 |
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| corvus | and there should be stuff up on youtube | 22:02 |
| corvus | i haven't seen it yet, myself | 22:02 |
| tobiash | yes saw the zuul video :) | 22:03 |
| Shrews | i saw the jim & jesse show. captivating! | 22:03 |
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| corvus | there was also a second one | 22:03 |
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| clarkb | and I did one for infra | 22:03 |
| clarkb | wiht pabelanger | 22:04 |
| corvus | #link jim and jesse interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1Ae_gkXOiQ | 22:04 |
| fungi | thanks! | 22:04 |
| dmsimard | corvus: I think that's the version without the audio fix | 22:04 |
| dmsimard | There's an "edited" version with less background noises/air conditioning | 22:05 |
| corvus | dmsimard: oh i thought that was the fixed version | 22:05 |
| dmsimard | Maybe it is, I'll check | 22:05 |
| dmsimard | Doh, it is the fixed version, my bad | 22:05 |
| corvus | cool | 22:06 |
| corvus | i can't find others right now, i guess let's dig for them later | 22:06 |
| corvus | #topic Possibility to shift meeting back about two hours? (tobiash) | 22:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Possibility to shift meeting back about two hours? (tobiash) (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:06 | |
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| tobiash | yah, I'd really like to attend the zuul meeting | 22:07 |
| tobiash | but it's currently 23:00 for me and 0:00 in summer time | 22:07 |
| fungi | yuck | 22:07 |
| Shrews | i'm all for earlier times | 22:07 |
| fungi | i'm free mondays at 2000z | 22:07 |
| corvus | i'll note that no one west of me has announced their presence at this meeting, so we may not have much in the way of objections from this group :) | 22:07 |
| tobiash | so I'd kindly ask if it's possible to shift it to an earlier time | 22:07 |
| tobiash | :) | 22:08 |
| ianw | mostly works for .au ... that will be 7am for the next little while, 6am after daylight savings changes | 22:08 |
| corvus | i think when we set the time we had more late-rising apac folks | 22:08 |
| fungi | it's still an hour later than we've been doing openstack-infra team meetings, which i'll grant is terribad for apac attendees | 22:08 |
| corvus | and fewer eu folks | 22:08 |
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| clarkb | is jhesketh here too? | 22:09 |
| clarkb | that said there probably isn't a time that is good for eu, na, and apac | 22:09 |
| fungi | i heard someone say that TristanC is moving back to the americas, so if that's the case he's one less apac-timer | 22:09 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: right. Maybe we could post the meeting notes to the mailing list ? | 22:10 |
| corvus | i think in the entire history of openstack, the best time we've come up with is 20:00 +/- one hour -- it seems to be about the sweet spot in terms of equalizing the pain. | 22:10 |
| fungi | discussing the meeting time change proposal on zuul-discuss would probably be a good way to get more inclusive feedback from other timezones | 22:10 |
| corvus | that's why we had the infra, tc, and project-wide meetings on those times | 22:11 |
| corvus | fungi: definitely -- i think that's the next step | 22:11 |
| corvus | while we're thinking about it, do we want to stick with monday, or move it to tuesday? there's no longer an openstack conflict at 20:00... :| | 22:12 |
| tobiash | I'm fine with both days | 22:13 |
| clarkb | moving it to tuesday would certainly simplify my meeting line up | 22:13 |
| corvus | the advantage to moving it is that we can be adjacent to the openstack-infra meeting, and we don't get canceled for holidays as much. | 22:13 |
| clarkb | but thats not a major concern | 22:13 |
| corvus | the advantage to keeping it on monday is that we get to cancel it more often for holidays :) | 22:13 |
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| Shrews | i wouldn't like tuesday, but that's purely for selfish reasons | 22:14 |
| corvus | (all my other meetings are on tuesday, so this would mean i'd get to go back to just writing off one day for meetings, and i'd "gain" a workday :) | 22:15 |
| jlk | blarg, I missed the start of the meeting. oops. | 22:15 |
| corvus | jlk: a surprisingly on-topic comment! :) | 22:15 |
| corvus | okay, let's solicit feedback from the mailing list on both the date and time changes.... | 22:15 |
| corvus | tobiash: you want to send a mail, or should i? | 22:15 |
| fungi | i'd be fine with tuesday at this point. after the tc went long enough not using that slot we officially removed it from the schedule | 22:15 |
| jlk | heh I even asked about it before hand. My calendar entry didn't have an alarm associated with it. | 22:16 |
| tobiash | I can send it tomorrow | 22:16 |
| corvus | (i'm also fine with either day, fwiw) | 22:16 |
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| corvus | anything else on this topic? | 22:16 |
| corvus | #action tobiash send a proposal to the mailing list to discuss moving meeting to 20:00 or thereabouts | 22:17 |
| corvus | #topic Security notification process (corvus) | 22:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Security notification process (corvus) (Meeting topic: zuul)" | 22:17 | |
| corvus | we're about to send out a notification about a vulnerability in zuul we just fixed | 22:18 |
| fungi | good thing we didn't release v3 already! ;) | 22:18 |
| corvus | fortunately, it's not bad, as it does not seem possible to exploit in the standard configuration | 22:19 |
| corvus | but it has pointed out we don't really have a documented process for security issues | 22:19 |
| fungi | yes, i think, before we _do_ have our big v3 release splash, it would be swell to have a clear process for reporting and announcing them | 22:20 |
| fungi | i think we can likely borrow a lot from the process the openstack vmt uses: | 22:20 |
| fungi | #link https://security.openstack.org/vmt-process.html OpenStack Vulnerability Management Process | 22:20 |
| fungi | a number of other communities outside openstack have adopted some or most of that since we started maintaining documentation about how it's done | 22:21 |
| corvus | fungi: does storyboard support security bugs yet? | 22:21 |
| fungi | it does! | 22:21 |
| fungi | though there's a bit of a wrinkle which needs some work | 22:21 |
| corvus | maybe we can jump straight to that and skip the "private email" option? | 22:21 |
| fungi | the biggest missing piece at this point, i think, is setting up some sort of bridge from configuration management to populating teams through the sb api | 22:21 |
| clarkb | fungi: to restrict who can see them? | 22:22 |
| fungi | right now at least, sb only allows admins to configure (and even view the membership of) its teams | 22:22 |
| fungi | so it seems like if we want to start supporting arbitrary teams for adding to private stories, having a way to handle team creation and population through code review would be nice | 22:22 |
| fungi | rather than putting team management on the shoulders of a handful of sb site admins | 22:23 |
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| fungi | the next biggest missing bit is that there's currently no feature to be able to set initial teams to subscribe to a new private story, so that would at least for now rely on us providing some instructions to reporters on how to pick an appropriate team to subscribe | 22:24 |
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| clarkb | that could lead to "missing" bugs which wouldn't be great | 22:24 |
| fungi | e.g., "make sure to add the 'zuul-coresec' team to the story by clicking the ..." | 22:24 |
| corvus | i'm not too worried about that -- when you click the "private" button, it's pretty obvious you need to add a team | 22:25 |
| corvus | or person | 22:25 |
| clarkb | ah | 22:25 |
| fungi | right | 22:25 |
| fungi | the ui tries to make it hard for you to miss, but... | 22:25 |
| fungi | so anyway, those are the extent of the rough edges i'm aware of for doing this with sb | 22:25 |
| corvus | in other words, if we've succeeded in getting a person to check the private box, adding the team seems easy. the big challenge is getting folks to that point. :) | 22:25 |
| fungi | that said, we don't currently have anyone doing it (i only just added a vmt team last week and it's apaprently team id #1) | 22:26 |
| corvus | so, um, i'd volunteer to create a team for us, so we can help exercise this. is that unfair? | 22:26 |
| fungi | corvus: oh, so insofar as convincing them to click teh private box, we _can_ also use custom reporting urls which default to private and hide the checkbox for that during story creation if we wanted to have a "go here to report suspected vulnerabilities..." instruction in docs | 22:26 |
| corvus | fungi: that sounds good, though "hide the checkbox" worries me unless there's some other confirmation that "yes this bug is private" | 22:27 |
| fungi | support for that just merged in storyboard-webclient in the past month | 22:27 |
| fungi | i'll have to pull up details on how that bit works | 22:28 |
| corvus | fungi: can a private bug be made public later? | 22:29 |
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| fungi | yep | 22:29 |
| fungi | this just hides the checkbox during initial story creation | 22:29 |
| corvus | ah, i see the edit option on existing stories, cool | 22:30 |
| fungi | something like /#!/story/new?title=my%20vulnerability&force_private=true&description=This%20is%20really%20bad... | 22:30 |
| fungi | there are a few settable options through custom reporting urls at the moment | 22:30 |
| corvus | clarkb: as infra ptl, i'll ask you to decide whether i should go ahead and create a zuul-security team, or whether we need to block on automating that... | 22:31 |
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| clarkb | corvus: considering its largely a one time thing its probably fine to just go ahead and make one | 22:31 |
| fungi | i wouldn't block on automating it for zuul to be able to use it | 22:31 |
| corvus | #action corvus create zuul-security team in storyboard | 22:31 |
| clarkb | I assume group membership is relatively easy to change and update later on similar to gerrit | 22:31 |
| clarkb | so not too worried about that | 22:32 |
| fungi | more that the openstack vmt is going to need lots of per-project coresec teams in sb when we start moving a lot of openstack projects there, and for _that_ purpose i think openstack-infra could stand to have some sb team management functionality which doesn't require teams to go as a sb admin every time they need a team adjusted | 22:32 |
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| fungi | er, to go ask | 22:32 |
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| corvus | okay, that gets us reporting, and possibly review for some smaller patches. i would not have wanted to do patch development in storyboard for the recent patch though -- it was large. my guess is we'll probably switch to email for that. but we can coordinate that in storyboard. this gets us a bootstrapping process at least. | 22:33 |
| fungi | one other thing custom reporting urls don't do yet, i think, is allow to prepopulate a project for the initial task | 22:33 |
| corvus | fungi: that would be handy. | 22:33 |
| fungi | i agree | 22:34 |
| fungi | it's been suggested | 22:34 |
| fungi | and yeah, i honestly haven't tried pasting diffs into sb comments yet to figure out how that would work... my guess is not well but i don't have evidence to back that up yet | 22:34 |
| corvus | skipping down the list a bit -- let's talk about cves... i'm imagining that at some point in the future, we may want to request them. but we can probably hold off on that at least until we've actually make a release...? | 22:35 |
| clarkb | you can use markdown to quote it but ya may not end up being great | 22:35 |
| fungi | i recommend holding off until you have a release, tes | 22:35 |
| fungi | er, yes | 22:36 |
| corvus | ie, can our policy be "don't request cve's for unreleased vulnerabilities"? | 22:36 |
| fungi | generally mitre discourages issuing a cve for vulnerabilities only present in unreleased code | 22:36 |
| corvus | so maybe even if we introduce a vuln in the future, as long as we don't release it, skip the cve, just fix it (and maybe let folks know on the mailing list) | 22:36 |
| SpamapS | +1 for that policy | 22:36 |
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| fungi | and that is the openstack vmt's policy as well, at least (you'll see in the process document i linked earlier it's one of the classes in our report taxonomy) | 22:36 |
| corvus | cool | 22:37 |
| fungi | we've found having a clear taxonomy of report classifications is an easy way to be able to explain why something doesn't get a cve and/or advisory | 22:37 |
| corvus | now, hypothetically, if we had released last week, and we were working on the current patch checking issue -- should we request a cve for that? it's not exploitable with bubblewrap in place... | 22:37 |
| clarkb | I think you would and then you'd just set the severity appropriately. Probably low/medium in this case? | 22:38 |
| fungi | the openstack vmt has requested cve assignment for and sent advisories about vulnerabilities in non-default, non-recommended configurations as long as they're not clearly marked as experimental/debugging or otherwise not for production use | 22:39 |
| corvus | here's what we say on the subject: https://docs.openstack.org/infra/zuul/admin/components.html#attr-executor.execution_wrapper | 22:40 |
| fungi | for example, if your installation and/or configuration documentation clearly stated that the option to disable bubblewrap was insecure and not intended for production usage, we wouldn't have recommended an advisory and cve | 22:40 |
| fungi | and yeah, that documentation in the admin guide seems like exactly that | 22:40 |
| clarkb | I guess in that case it does say nullwrap is unsafe | 22:40 |
| clarkb | hwoever we also know some users like tobias have to operate in this manner | 22:41 |
| corvus | clarkb: tobiash uses bwrap | 22:41 |
| clarkb | at the very least we probably want to communicate the situation even if not getting a cve so that users in that position don't have trouble going forward | 22:41 |
| clarkb | corvus: oh right he had to deploy his own openshift to get it working | 22:41 |
| corvus | he has an openshift with admin privs so he can use privileged containers | 22:41 |
| clarkb | ya | 22:41 |
| fungi | right, it's never cut-and-dried, so if you know these are risks some users need to take, you adjust your decision based on the information you have | 22:41 |
| tobiash | yah ;) | 22:41 |
| corvus | i think our conversation earlier suggested we don't know if any users currently required to task those risks... | 22:42 |
| fungi | that's also a takeaway for the project's documentation authors if they're marking a feature unsafe yet acknowledge that some people need it... this suggests a problem in the overall design ;) | 22:42 |
| clarkb | someone was running on vanilla openshift as a service, maybe rcarrillocruz ? | 22:43 |
| corvus | i just can't personally stand behind not using bwrap | 22:44 |
| tobiash | yes, rcarrillocruz ran/runs a non-production test env on openshift online | 22:44 |
| fungi | so anyway, for this case, if it had been present in 3.x after official release i'd have suggested not bothering with a formal advisory process unless you knew you had users relying on this clearly documented as unsafe feature, unless you just felt like it was warranted anyway | 22:44 |
| fungi | in particular, you could also consider that as a deciding factor for whether you need to bother with developing and reviewing the fix secretly under an embargo (if the project even wants to support embargoed vulnerabilities) | 22:45 |
| corvus | good point | 22:46 |
| fungi | kurt seifried had a good article posted to the red hat security blog about the trade-offs with embargoed vulnerabilities in open software | 22:47 |
| fungi | the permalinks i had for that are all screwed up so i'm trying to find it now | 22:47 |
| fungi | aha, here we go... | 22:48 |
| fungi | #link https://access.redhat.com/blogs/766093/posts/1976653 The hidden costs of embargoes | 22:48 |
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| corvus | yeah, i'm not sure what the right answer will be for us there... | 22:49 |
| fungi | it's a perfectly valid stance to just follow a full-disclosure model with no coordinated disclosure and embargoes | 22:51 |
| corvus | just disclose it as soon as a patch is ready? | 22:51 |
| fungi | depends on what you feel the predominant risk profile is and the ways in which downstream stakeholders consume the software | 22:51 |
| clarkb | if we take this as an example embargos probably do make sense so that you can update right away and don't have to turn zuul off for some unknown period of time | 22:52 |
| clarkb | (assuming the default setup wasn't secure) | 22:52 |
| clarkb | thankfully zuul makes it relatively easy to restart services | 22:52 |
| fungi | yeah, if you feel some vulnerabilities do warrant an embargo and pre-disclosure to some registered subset of stakeholders then i recommend at least having a clear set of rules on how you determine which sorts of reports actually need that level of paranoia | 22:53 |
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| corvus | the worst thing is probably 'exposure of secrets' | 22:54 |
| fungi | so that the people handling them don't unnecessarily impose a costly development overhead on fixes for lower-risk vulnerabilities | 22:54 |
| corvus | that's the thing where if there were an exploit for that in the wild, we'd stop zuul and wait for a patch. | 22:55 |
| fungi | makes sense | 22:55 |
| fungi | but yes, if there are reports where you can make a good case for a public development process then you get the usual benefits of people outside your closed set being able to spot potential issues with your proposed solution, the ability to rely on a public ci system to thoroughly pre-test the fix, and so on | 22:56 |
| corvus | fungi: do you have time to start on some zuul-specific docs for this process? | 22:56 |
| fungi | corvus: i can make that a priority for this week, sure. where would you like them to live/be published? | 22:57 |
| fungi | just so i know to ptopose the prose to the right repo | 22:57 |
| corvus | should we put it in the zuul documentation? maybe in the developer section? | 22:57 |
| fungi | wfm | 22:57 |
| corvus | (then maybe on the website, we can make a top-level link for it and deep-link to it) | 22:57 |
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| fungi | do we have a specific section on bug reporting? | 22:57 |
| corvus | like "report a bug" "report a security bug" links or something. | 22:58 |
| corvus | fungi: heh, i don't think there's anything more than what's in the contributing file | 22:58 |
| fungi | to compare to openstack's process, we actually have two pages one of which is the instructions on reporting a security bug and the other is the process for the people who will be handling the report | 22:58 |
| fungi | want to keep the instructions on reporting vulnerabilities short and sweet but also flexible | 22:59 |
| corvus | we could put the 'report' section inside the administrators guide even... | 22:59 |
| fungi | so we further include e-mail addresses and openpgp keys reporters can use to securely report via e-mail if they prefer | 22:59 |
| fungi | yeah, you want the bits on reporting to be as easy to find as possible | 23:00 |
| corvus | #action fungi start documenting vulnerability process | 23:00 |
| fungi | referencing them from the admin guide at a minimum would be a good idea | 23:00 |
| corvus | okay, we're at time now... | 23:00 |
| corvus | thanks everyone! | 23:01 |
| corvus | #endmeeting | 23:01 |
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