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| alexchadin | #startmeeting watcher | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 28 08:00:10 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 08:00 |
| alexchadin | morning folks | 08:00 |
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| licanwei | alexchadin: hi | 08:01 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: hi | 08:01 |
| hidekazu | hi | 08:01 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: how are you? | 08:02 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: hi! | 08:02 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: fine, and you? | 08:02 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: better than in last weeks :) | 08:02 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: :) | 08:03 |
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| licanwei | hidekazu: hi~ | 08:03 |
| hidekazu | licanwei: ~ | 08:04 |
| alexchadin | #topic Announcements | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 08:04 | |
| alexchadin | Aditi Sharma and Yumeng Bao will take Watcher Project Update on Vancouver Summit! | 08:04 |
| alexchadin | licanwei hidekazu do you plan to be there? | 08:05 |
| alexchadin | Unfortunately, I won't be there | 08:05 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: i am not sure. maybe not. | 08:05 |
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| licanwei | alexchadin: I won't be there, too | 08:06 |
| alexchadin | ah, it's so far... | 08:07 |
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| alexchadin | All watcher jobs have been migrated to zuulv3 syntax. Rest of strategy scenarios should be delivered during this cycle. | 08:08 |
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| alexchadin | There are last some nits with watcherclient job, hope to fix it today | 08:08 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: thanks | 08:09 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: great! | 08:10 |
| alexchadin | as we have discussed on PTG, here is the list of assignments to scenario jobs: | 08:10 |
| -alexchadin- (alexchadin) Provide functional job for workload stabilization strategy. | 08:10 | |
| -alexchadin- (hidekazu) Provide functional job for zone migration strategy. | 08:10 | |
| -alexchadin- (yushiro) Provide functional job for noisy neighbor strategy. | 08:10 | |
| -alexchadin- (Yumeng) Provide functional job for storage capacity strategy. | 08:10 | |
| alexchadin | licanwei: I propose you to take some strategy to implement its scenario job | 08:10 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: ok | 08:11 |
| alexchadin | workload stabilization job has already been done, I plan to take outlet_temp_control strategy | 08:11 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng: hi, are you here? | 08:12 |
| Yumeng | yes | 08:12 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng: hi! | 08:12 |
| Yumeng | hi | 08:12 |
| alexchadin | should be provide either blueprint for each scenario job or bug? | 08:13 |
| adisky__ | hi all | 08:14 |
| adisky__ | sorry for joining late | 08:14 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: for tracking implementing scenario job, it is good to register blueprint. | 08:14 |
| adisky__ | hidekazu: +1 | 08:15 |
| Yumeng | alexchadin,hidekazu: agree. we can propose one blueprint for all scenarios | 08:15 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: +1 | 08:16 |
| alexchadin | Who'd like to register it? | 08:16 |
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| Yumeng | I can hel[ | 08:16 |
| Yumeng | help | 08:16 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng: thanks | 08:16 |
| alexchadin | #action Yumeng register blueprint to track scenarios jobs | 08:17 |
| Yumeng | :) | 08:17 |
| alexchadin | adisky__: hi! | 08:17 |
| alexchadin | any other announcements? | 08:17 |
| alexchadin | adisky__ Yumeng congratulations with taking Watcher Project Update! :) | 08:17 |
| adisky__ | alexchadin: thanks | 08:18 |
| alexchadin | let's move on | 08:19 |
| alexchadin | #topic OpenStack-wide Goals | 08:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack-wide Goals (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 08:20 | |
| alexchadin | Enable mutable configuration is assigned to Egor Panfilov. We have to track this goal via storyboard #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001545 | 08:20 |
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| alexchadin | there should be pretty trivial fix | 08:20 |
| alexchadin | Remove Use of mox/mox3 for Testing should be assigned and fixed in watcher-dashboard #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1758388 | 08:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1758388 in watcher "Remove Use of mox/mox3 for Testing" [High,Triaged] | 08:21 |
| alexchadin | who'd like to take this one? | 08:21 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: me | 08:24 |
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| alexchadin | licanwei: you're in | 08:24 |
| alexchadin | #action licanwei implement https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1758388 | 08:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1758388 in watcher "Remove Use of mox/mox3 for Testing" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to licanwei (li-canwei2) | 08:24 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: thank you! | 08:24 |
| alexchadin | #Review Action Items | 08:25 |
| alexchadin | #topic Review Action Items | 08:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 08:25 | |
| alexchadin | Watcher specs | 08:25 |
| alexchadin | Exclude Project By Audit Scope needs to be updated #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546960/ | 08:25 |
| alexchadin | adisky__: Yumeng left some comments for you | 08:25 |
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| adisky__ | alexchadin: sure, i will update | 08:27 |
| adisky__ | Yumeng: help me out in updating watcher dashboard :0 | 08:27 |
| Yumeng | adisky__:ok no pb | 08:27 |
| alexchadin | #action adisky__ update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546960/ | 08:28 |
| alexchadin | Add team priorities for Rocky has been merged #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551914/ | 08:28 |
| alexchadin | sometimes we approve additional 1-3 blueprints during the cycle, I suppose it's ok | 08:29 |
| hidekazu | tracking scenario jobs bp will be added though. | 08:29 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: +1 | 08:29 |
| alexchadin | and Egor Panfilov will take one of my blueprints | 08:30 |
| alexchadin | he consults with me about it, of course | 08:30 |
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| alexchadin | Support Watcher HA active-active Mode needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549706/ | 08:31 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: we definitely need new PS that takes into account out comments | 08:32 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: yea, I'll update | 08:32 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: thank you | 08:33 |
| alexchadin | #action licanwei submit new PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549706/ | 08:33 |
| alexchadin | Add the start and end time for CONTINUOUS audit needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551058/ | 08:33 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: I'll update this bp, too | 08:34 |
| alexchadin | #action licanwei submit new ps https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551058/ | 08:35 |
| alexchadin | Add replace cold migration to use nova API spec #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551851/ | 08:35 |
| alexchadin | has been merged | 08:35 |
| hidekazu | thanks reviewing. | 08:35 |
| alexchadin | Enhance Watcher workflow Engine needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551861/ | 08:37 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: I'll review it soon since I definitely have questions about it | 08:37 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: thanks! | 08:37 |
| alexchadin | who'd like to review it too? | 08:38 |
| suzhengwei | +1 | 08:38 |
| alexchadin | #action alexchadin suzhengwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551861/ | 08:39 |
| adisky__ | +1 | 08:39 |
| alexchadin | #action adisky__ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551861/ | 08:39 |
| alexchadin | Watcher | 08:39 |
| alexchadin | Replace cold migration to use Nova migration API needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555665/ | 08:39 |
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| hidekazu | i will update | 08:40 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: thanks | 08:41 |
| alexchadin | #action hidekazu https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555665/ | 08:41 |
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| alexchadin | add strategy host_maintenance should be updated to fix jobs issues #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479200/ | 08:42 |
| suzhengwei | I will | 08:42 |
| alexchadin | #action suzhengwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479200/ | 08:44 |
| alexchadin | #undo | 08:44 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action suzhengwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479200/ | 08:44 |
| alexchadin | #action suzhengwei submit new PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479200/ | 08:44 |
| alexchadin | filter exclude instances during migration needs final core review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508108/ | 08:44 |
| alexchadin | I will review | 08:45 |
| suzhengwei | thanks | 08:45 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: +1 | 08:45 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu adisky__ Yumeng what about you? | 08:46 |
| Yumeng | +1 | 08:46 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: yes, i will review it. | 08:46 |
| alexchadin | #action alexchadin licanwei Yumeng hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508108/ | 08:47 |
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| alexchadin | Watcher Bug Fixes | 08:47 |
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| alexchadin | add lower-constraints job needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556286/ | 08:47 |
| alexchadin | Update links in README needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551708/ | 08:47 |
| alexchadin | create audit failed needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530105/ | 08:47 |
| alexchadin | Fix sort of *list command output needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552534/ | 08:48 |
| alexchadin | please review it once you have some free time | 08:48 |
| alexchadin | so any other discussions? :) | 08:50 |
| alexchadin | we have good activity so far, let's keep it well | 08:51 |
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| hidekazu | bye | 08:52 |
| alexchadin | thank you for attending! | 08:53 |
| alexchadin | bye! | 08:53 |
| suzhengwei | bye | 08:54 |
| licanwei | bye~ | 08:54 |
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| alexchadin | #endmeeting | 08:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 08:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 28 08:56:15 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2018/watcher.2018-03-28-08.00.html | 08:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2018/watcher.2018-03-28-08.00.txt | 08:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2018/watcher.2018-03-28-08.00.log.html | 08:56 |
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| zhaochao | #startmeeting trove | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 28 14:00:11 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhaochao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 14:00 |
| zhaochao | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:00 | |
| fanzhang | o/ | 14:00 |
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| zhanggang | o/ | 14:01 |
| Yao | hi | 14:01 |
| zhaochao | hi | 14:01 |
| songjian | o/ | 14:01 |
| zhaochao | hi | 14:02 |
| fanzhang | I think kumarmn is here too | 14:03 |
| kumarmn | yes | 14:03 |
| zhaochao | ok, maciejjozefczyk may not show up, so let's start | 14:04 |
| kumarmn | I was traveling last week | 14:04 |
| Yao | coo | 14:04 |
| Yao | cool | 14:04 |
| zhaochao | #topic Rocky goal updates | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky goal updates (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:04 | |
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| zhaochao | as we decided on last weekly meeting, we could do some updates in the recent week | 14:05 |
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| zhaochao | kumarmn: songjian fyi, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-03-21-14.00.html | 14:05 |
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| zhaochao | we'll use the priority page to track updates, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-priorities-and-specs-tracking | 14:06 |
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| zhaochao | and https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Jz6TnmRHnhbg6J_tSBXv-SvYIrG4NLh4nWejupxqdeg for self assignment | 14:07 |
| Yao | I will commit some patches about osc this weekend, so busy recently, sorry for that. | 14:07 |
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| fanzhang | zhaochao I just updated my working progress about nova file injection deprecation. Still drafting spec. | 14:07 |
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| zhaochao | Yao: that's ok, all of us may not have time to focus on the upstream activities | 14:08 |
| Yao | yes | 14:08 |
| zhaochao | fanzhang: got that, thanks | 14:09 |
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| zhaochao | I'm still working on mox removal, this should be completed in the trove repo | 14:09 |
| zhaochao | and I'm working the first patch for trove-dashboard, it may be done in a few days | 14:10 |
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| fanzhang | huh, about Octavia way of communicating between API and guestagent, is huntxu around? | 14:11 |
| songjian | I think I can provide some help with offline image based on trovestack,like a doc. Of course, this is not the best way to build images. | 14:11 |
| zhanggang | About cluster supporting, do you have any idea of improvement direction. Next week I think I have time work around this. | 14:12 |
| zhaochao | songjian: thanks, documentation also do help | 14:13 |
| fanzhang | zhanggang IMHO, let's find the gaps first. Then you will be clear what needs to be done. | 14:13 |
| zhaochao | any other updates? zhanggang added another topic about cluster supporting, we could move on to it as the next topic | 14:14 |
| kumarmn | the reboot discussion that the previous PTL initiated was to make clusters a first-class citizen: | 14:14 |
| kumarmn | https://openstack.nimeyo.com/115325/openstack-dev-trove-all-tc-a-proposal-to-rearchitect-trove | 14:14 |
| kumarmn | Not sure whether there is anything specific you can get from that discussion. | 14:14 |
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| zhaochao | ok, let's move the next topic | 14:15 |
| zhaochao | #topic Improve cluster supportingļ¼improvement direction | 14:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Improve cluster supportingļ¼improvement direction (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:15 | |
| zhanggang | kumarmn: thanks, I will read the info. | 14:16 |
| zhaochao | yes, the discussion mentioned by kumarmn is the start, but no progress has been made | 14:16 |
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| kumarmn | There is nothing specific about how to improve, or what is broken. | 14:18 |
| fanzhang | songjian told me that this proposal made by amrith didn't get much support, and then ended up with nothing happened ? | 14:18 |
| fanzhang | yep, we may need to find the gaps by ourselves. | 14:19 |
| kumarmn | he was thinking that if we start from scratch we can make it like k8s. | 14:19 |
| zhanggang | One direction is functional improvement, like add resize_cluster_volume, resize_cluster_flavor etc. | 14:21 |
| songjian | fanzhang,I do not know this thing very clearly. . . Just heard of this plan, but the details are not clear | 14:21 |
| fanzhang | kumarmn it's kind a huge refactoring things which would take a lot time and development | 14:21 |
| fanzhang | maybe put it aside right now? But we can read this mail and try to find something useful. | 14:22 |
| kumarmn | right, I was not suggesting that we go that route. I agree that we should tackle the functional like zhanggang suggests. | 14:22 |
| fanzhang | +1 | 14:23 |
| zhaochao | zhanggang: these should work and help, we also can do some abstraction about the cluster implements of all the database backends we now supported | 14:23 |
| zhaochao | yes, all of us may agree on doing improvements based on the current Trove implements | 14:24 |
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| zhaochao | currently cluster implements are using the strategies framework, we could also do some improvements on that | 14:25 |
| fanzhang | Looks like zhanggang has to take some time to bring up a spec, and then we can discuss more detail things | 14:26 |
| zhanggang | And another direction I thought is cluster_create. we may treated some parameters as cluster parameters instead of instance. For example, az, nics, just like configuration | 14:27 |
| zhanggang | configuration = body['cluster'].get('configuration') | 14:27 |
| zhanggang | and bugs like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556764/ will be fixed | 14:28 |
| fanzhang | that's more like what zhaochao says above, some abstraction works? | 14:28 |
| zhanggang | fanzhang: yes, do more abstraction. | 14:29 |
| zhaochao | yes, zhanggang, you can adding your ideas(and explanations) in the prioritiy tracking page, under the "Improve cluster supporting" topic | 14:29 |
| zhanggang | zhaochao: ok | 14:30 |
| zhaochao | zhanggang: and if you want to notify us about the updates on this topic, you can also talk about it in #openstack-trove channel, I'm on the channel most of the working time | 14:32 |
| zhaochao | ok, anything more about the cluster improvements? | 14:33 |
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| songjian | For this issue, I think I need to investigate some cluster features like roll restart etc... | 14:33 |
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| zhanggang | zhaochao: ok, if I have more thought, I will use that channel of email. | 14:34 |
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| zhaochao | songjian: that would be great, thanks | 14:34 |
| fanzhang | sounds great. you all have real use cases :) | 14:35 |
| songjian | nothing,It's interesting | 14:36 |
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| zhaochao | ok, we don't have any other topics this week, let's move to open discussion | 14:37 |
| zhaochao | #topic Open discussion | 14:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:37 | |
| fanzhang | about versioned object | 14:37 |
| fanzhang | I recently think it's kind a useful feature in trove to handle things nova microversion | 14:38 |
| fanzhang | like nova microversion | 14:38 |
| fanzhang | If we had some checks based on microversions, we could use more cross projects' features | 14:39 |
| zhaochao | fanzhang: yes, I also agree, but most of us think it's priority is not high, and maybe because we didn't do much modification about API before | 14:39 |
| zhaochao | however it will be great to add the basic microversion framework to Trove | 14:41 |
| fanzhang | I remembered that Samuel told us that we are using nova api 2.10, but the lates nova api microversion is 2.57. Why do we use 2.10, and how to control our api requests' version with nova, cinder etc? | 14:41 |
| zhaochao | I also didn't make it clear about why we stick with nova 2.10, but I did some changes about the novaclient and neutronclient usage, things may have changed | 14:42 |
| zhaochao | some feature will be remove from novaclient/neutronclient/cinderclient, even we're using an old api microversion | 14:43 |
| fanzhang | yeah, I am interested with that. My thought is if we have versioned things, we can be easily aware of api version we should use if we want some features in trove. Like we can specify api version 2.xx to not use nova 2.57 and something more or less. | 14:43 |
| fanzhang | zhaochao yep, that's one of my concerns | 14:43 |
| fanzhang | but do not have a clue about how to design that right now. | 14:44 |
| fanzhang | so what do you guys think? kumarmn songjian zhanggang Yao | 14:44 |
| zhaochao | the basic design about microversion is for client usage, i.e. if we changes the API, we should increase the micronversion, then client with old microversion specified won't be broken | 14:46 |
| zhaochao | but this is not about Trove using novaclient/cinderclient/neutronclient, micronversions in Trove should be used for the interaction between troveclient(and other client) with Trove API | 14:47 |
| fanzhang | fair enough. but how can we control the api version using novaclient/cinderclient/neutronclient, curious about that. | 14:48 |
| zhaochao | for the usage of novaclient/cinderclient/neutronclient, we could only follow the decision of these project, and update the way we use these client libraries | 14:48 |
| fanzhang | oh right, that could work. | 14:50 |
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| fanzhang | If i got some time, I would like to think it through | 14:52 |
| zhaochao | fanzhang: yes, though the versioned object is not on the top of the priorities list, but I think it would be great if we do some initial work on this | 14:52 |
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| zhanggang | Is any other project use microversion besides nova cinder neutron? | 14:53 |
| fanzhang | Sounds cool :) no more topics from me | 14:53 |
| fanzhang | zhanggang good question š¤£ I have no idea. | 14:54 |
| zhaochao | zhanggang: didn't read code of many other projects, some more active evolving projects should also use this method | 14:54 |
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| zhaochao | ok, I think that's all today. Do you have anything more to talk about? | 14:56 |
| zhanggang | No more :) | 14:56 |
| fanzhang | no, and have a good day, have a good night :) | 14:56 |
| Yao | no more for me | 14:56 |
| Yao | bye | 14:57 |
| zhaochao | Ok, Let's end here. Thanks, everyone. | 14:57 |
| songjian | no more for me | 14:57 |
| zhanggang | Bye | 14:57 |
| fanzhang | Bye | 14:57 |
| zhaochao | Bye | 14:57 |
| zhaochao | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 28 14:58:01 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-03-28-14.00.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-03-28-14.00.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-03-28-14.00.log.html | 14:58 |
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