Wednesday, 2018-04-18

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zhaochao#startmeeting trove14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 18 14:00:17 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is zhaochao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'trove'14:00
zhaochao#topic roll call14:00
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ganghi14:01
zhaochaogang: hi14:01
zhaochaolooks like today we only very few people to the meeting...14:01
gangyes...14:02
kumarmnhi14:02
zhaochaowait some minutes for others to show up14:02
zhaochaokumarmn: hi14:02
fanzhang_hi sorry for a little bit late14:03
zhaochaofanzhang_: :)14:04
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zhaochaoOK, let's start14:05
zhaochao#topic Rocky goal updates14:05
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zhaochaoThis week we're on rocky milestone-1, so I may have to submit some patches for it14:06
zhaochaoin the first and a half months of rocky cycle, we may don't have many changes14:07
fanzhang_There are some patches from you, and great work!14:08
zhaochaofanzhang_: thanks14:08
fanzhang_Should we approve the nova file injection bp before rocky milestone-1? Maybe I can start developing ?14:09
kumarmnzhaochao: You do have to submit a patch to the openstack/releases repository14:09
kumarmnhttps://github.com/openstack/releases14:09
kumarmnTake a look at the README.14:09
zhaochaokumarmn: thanks, I'm just going to ask, anything more about the milestone ?14:10
zhaochaofanzhang_: I think you could start developing14:10
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kumarmnsomething like 'tox -e venv -- new-release rocky trove milestone'14:10
fanzhang_zhaochao  sure, I guess I have to code step by step :)14:11
kumarmnThat will take care of trove and trove-dashboard. I believe for python-troveclient, you have to create the snapshot yourself.14:11
zhaochaofanzhang_: I approved the bp, and will wait for another week for the other core members to approve it14:11
zhaochaokumarmn: where should I run the tox command , in trove repo or the releases repo ?14:12
kumarmnreleases repo14:12
fanzhang_zhaochao thanks :) really appreciate that anyone can help review this spec :https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557583/14:12
zhaochaokumarmn: got that, thanks14:12
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zhaochao#action zhaochao have to do the tasks about Rocky milestone-114:13
gangfangzhang: so, need a workflow+1?14:13
fanzhang_#action fanzhang_ should start coding about nova file injection spec.14:13
fanzhang_I'd like you actually review this spec first :)14:14
zhaochaoand for the global goal, mox-removal14:14
zhaochaoit's already solved in the Trove repo14:14
gangof course :)14:14
zhaochaoand the other repo have to be dealed is trove-dashboard14:15
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zhaochaowe now have https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/trove-dashboard+topic:mox-removal14:15
fanzhang_ok, will do review later14:15
zhaochao5 patches for this topic in trove-dashboard14:15
zhaochaoone of them from Chuck Short, but no updates recently to address my comments, so I also updated it today14:16
zhaochaofanzhang_: thanks, :)14:16
zhaochaoand https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562144/14:17
zhaochaothis one is related, without it, we cannot merge any patches... :(14:17
fanzhang_better to add them to # link14:17
zhaochaofanzhang_: good point, I'll do that14:18
zhaochao#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/trove-dashboard+topic:mox-removal14:18
zhaochao#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562144/14:18
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zhaochaoanother patch need to mention from me14:19
zhaochaohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/562144/14:19
zhaochao#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562144/14:19
zhaochaoI'm going to migrate the zuul jobs to Zuul v3 native14:19
zhaochaothe above is the first one, the jobs of trove repo will go after14:20
zhaochaoI have 10(or 11) patches recently, please help to review, thanks14:21
gangzhaohcao: must say you really have done a lot of work!14:22
zhaochaothat's all from me14:22
zhaochaogang: :)14:22
zhaochaoone more thing about the stable branches, you guys may have seen the mails in the mailinglist about this14:23
fanzhang_Yes, thanks to Sean and Matt14:23
fanzhang_we got the patches merged14:23
zhaochaoYes, I think as we don't have much resouce, so currently we will rely on the core stable team to help us to got the patches merged14:24
zhaochaoIf you want some fixes merged into the stable branch, please add the core stable team members to the reviewer list14:25
fanzhang_IMHO, it's better this way right now, since we don't have much time focus on the upstream community as our full-time job :-(14:25
zhaochaoagreed, I may be kind of full-time from time to time, like these two weeks, :), but cannot permit that for a longer period14:27
zhaochaoOK, do you have more on the rocky update topic, gang have added another topic about cluster supporting, we could jump to that one14:28
zhaochaothen let's move on14:29
zhaochao#topic cluster supporting14:29
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gangyes, I am not think clearly about trove cluster, need some advises from you guys14:29
zhaochaogang: would you tell more about your thoughts about this?14:30
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zhaochaofor me, "Remove all instance API and treate instance as a single node cluster." seems not the right way, but I don't know what's your detailed plan14:31
gangI get some thought from the email and from my production experience.14:31
gangAnd I had add to the agenda14:31
gangfor production env, cluster is more import than instance.14:32
zhaochaogang: agree with the importance of cluster in product env14:32
fanzhang_+114:32
gangSo, my opinion is maybe we should re-architect clusters.14:33
gangBut it seems a big change.14:33
zhaochaohowever from the api level, cluster is already the first citizen as instance14:33
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zhaochaoand simple instance as single-node cluster, seems not correct and not easy to achieve14:34
zhaochaowe also support replication of instances14:34
fanzhang_As I mentioned before, we have to figure it out what has been supported in trove, and what has not. And then we can add more useful and urgent functions that user desires most14:34
fanzhang_as for re-architect, if you got the time, well, I think maybe you can try14:35
fanzhang_detail spec should be needed definitely14:35
gangwell, if we can split it into some smaller task, maybe I can try.14:35
gangIt just what I thought trove should looks like...14:36
zhaochaogang: fanzhang_ yes, bp is needed. the first design is important, any good ideas about this?14:37
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gangLike replication of instances, I mean maybe it should be "transparent" to end user.14:37
zhaochaoor what are problems do you think about the current design of clusters?14:38
zhaochaogang: ok, I may got some points from that, replications could be a kind of cluster(or strategy, maybe)14:38
fanzhang_the end users may want to know what they're using, replication or real cluster, that really depends on them, not us.14:39
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zhaochaofanzhang_: from gang's idea, we could design something like "cluster type" -> replication/sharded/...14:41
fanzhang_yeah, exposing cluster type to end users may be a great feature14:43
gangfanzhang_: yes, in some case user want to know the details, this is why we discuss.14:43
zhaochaohowever we still have a lot changes for this14:44
gangzhaochao: yes, if we do this, it will be a huge work.14:44
gangso, do you think there need a spec?14:45
zhaochaogang: would you add the related links in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-priorities-and-specs-tracking, under "Improve cluster supporting"14:45
zhaochaogang: yes, we need a spec14:46
gangOK14:46
zhaochaogang: we may need more discussions about this14:46
fanzhang_definitely14:46
gangzhaochao: can't agree more14:46
zhaochaogang: if you like to push this, you could create a new pad for it, or add your thoughts under "Improve cluster supporting" of the tracking page14:47
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zhaochaoeveryone could help to improve this14:47
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zhaochaoI think this coud be a good direction14:48
gangzhaochao: I will, if I have some step that I would ask you and fan.14:48
fanzhang_would love to help with that14:49
gangfanzhang: thanks in advance  :)14:50
zhaochaogang: great, I will aslo do some investigation about this topic after I finish the global goals and Zuul v3 migration(may not take too long, one or two weeks maybe)14:50
gangzhaochao: thanks!14:50
zhaochao#action gang do the first draft design about improving cluster support, fanzhang and zhaochao will help on the that14:51
zhaochaogang: no problem14:51
zhaochaoSo any thing more about this topic? gang fanzhang_14:52
gangno14:53
fanzhang_no14:53
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fanzhang_really tired from work and gym 🤣14:53
zhaochaofanzhang_: good for gym14:54
zhaochaoOK, I'll go the open discussiong topic14:54
zhaochao#topic Open discussion14:54
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kumarmn_I wanted to discuss on the Trove project updated at the Summit in Vancouver14:54
kumarmn_I am not able to go due to a personal trip/vacation.14:54
kumarmn_Any of you planning to go?14:55
zhaochaokumarmn_: sorry, I'm not going14:56
fanzhang_sorry, can not make it14:56
zhaochaokumarmn_: I just forgot another question about the rocky-1, do we have a deadline? tomorrow?14:56
kumarmn_Sometime this week, preferably by tomorrow.14:56
gangme too... sorry14:56
zhaochaokumarmn_: got that, thanks14:57
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zhaochaokumarmn_: I don't know wether any other core member will go the Vancouver summit14:57
kumarmn_I will check with Maciej14:58
zhaochaoOK, most of the other core members are in China, I didn't hear some of them will go to the summit. fanzhang_ , do you know some of us will go?15:00
fanzhang_no sorry15:00
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zhaochaoOK, time's up15:00
zhaochaothat's all today, thanks, everyone15:00
fanzhang_will  ask songjian  tomorrow15:00
zhaochaofanzhang_: thanks15:01
zhaochao#endmeeting15:01
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e0ne#startmeeting horizon15:05
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 18 15:05:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:05
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'15:05
betherly_o/15:05
e0neI'm sorry for the delay with begining15:06
e0ne#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon15:06
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rdopierao/15:07
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e0newe don't have a lot in the agenda15:08
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e0ne#topic rocky-1 milestone this week15:09
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e0ne#link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html15:09
e0neI'm going to cut rocky-1 release tomorrow15:09
e0nedo we need something that must be included?15:09
e0neI'll go throw in-progress bugs and blueprints today and move them to rocky-2 if we can't get them landed now15:11
e0nebetherly_: do you have any updates on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/network-bandwidth-limiting-qos?15:12
betherly_e0ne: patches up for delete action and working on getting tests passing15:14
e0nebetherly_: ok, let's move this blueprint to the next milestone15:14
betherly_e0ne: thanks15:15
e0nebetherly_: np. thanks on working on it15:15
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e0nerdopiera: do you have any inputs on rocky-1 topic?15:16
rdopierae0ne: not really, I have two RFEs I wanted to work on, but I didn't even start on them, so there is no chance they would make it15:17
e0ne:(15:17
e0ne#topic Open Discussion15:17
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e0nerdopiera: did you see my " Improve Horizon testing" e-mail ?15:19
rdopieraI did15:19
rdopieraI agree with everything in it15:19
e0negreat15:20
e0neI'v got few patches in progress now15:21
e0nemostly, CI doesn't pass on them15:21
e0newill fix it early next week15:21
e0neif we haven't anything to discuss today, I'll end this meeting in few minutes15:23
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rdopieraI wonder if we could discuss any ideas for getting more participation15:24
rdopieraor otherwise attracting people to Horizon15:24
e0neI've got few ideas only15:24
e0newe need to start work with others teams who has plugins15:25
e0nemaybe we can get more contribution and better cross-project communications15:25
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e0newe'll also have Project Onboarding session at the Summit15:27
rdopieraoh, nice, I didn't know that15:27
rdopieraI wonder if we could prepare a list of some simple bugs to work on15:27
rdopierafor beginners15:27
e0negood idea15:28
e0newe should  mark such bugs with 'low hanging fruit' tag15:28
rdopieraI will keep an eye for ones that could be suitable for this15:28
e0nerdopiera: thanks15:29
betherly_++15:29
e0ne#action rdopiera to prepare list of 'low hanging fruit' bugs15:29
e0nebetherly_: are you going to attend the Summit?15:29
betherly_e0ne: no sorry i wont be there15:30
e0nebetherly_: :(15:30
e0nebtw, we've got dates for the next PTG15:30
e0ne Sept 10-14, North America15:31
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rdopieraso US or Canada?15:31
e0nerdopiera: I don't have any idea15:31
e0neI hope that it will be US because of I get a visa15:32
rdopieraI won't be able to come then15:32
e0ne:(15:32
rdopierawe'll see15:32
amotokihi15:32
e0neamotoki: hi15:32
betherly_rdopiera: sad times :(15:33
e0nebetherly_: +115:33
betherly_hopefully i will be there at the ptg but that is to be confirmed nearer the time15:33
rdopierabut the next Summit is in Berlin, so there is a large chance I will make it15:33
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e0nerdopiera: yes, I hope to see more people from EU there15:35
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e0neI mean from Europe, of course15:36
rdopierahehe, it's hard to not be political these days ;-)15:36
e0nerdopiera: my fail15:37
e0neamotoki: do you have anything to discuss?15:37
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amotokie0ne: nothing15:37
amotokiwed night is a day I have local meetups most and my appearance in the new time will be random15:38
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amotokihopefully you can review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560679/15:41
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amotokiit helps manila-ui15:41
e0neamotoki: will do it after the meeting15:41
amotokimanila-ui uses monkey-patching and the blueprint of pluggable info and quota tab breaks their monkey-patching15:42
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e0nehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/561457/ - it's needed by  octavia-dashboard15:42
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amotokiI would like folks familiar with AngularJS stuffs review it more.15:43
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betherly_ill take a look15:43
e0nebetherly_: thank you15:44
betherly_could you add an extra note re how to properly test it?15:44
betherly_ie where is hz-resource-property-list?15:44
amotokiI would like to see a bug report on an issue fixed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561457/15:45
e0nebetherly_: it should help you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561458/15:45
amotokino information on a bug report or Needed-By patch makes reviews difficult....15:46
betherly_amotoki: ++15:47
betherly_e0ne: thanks!15:47
e0nefair enough15:47
betherly_a bug report would also be really helpful though if poss15:47
amotokiI am personally okay to link a storyboard bug. it will not be linked to horizon launchpad but it provide information.15:48
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e0neI will ask author to add more details and bug report for horizon15:49
e0nea friendly 10 minutes reminder15:50
amotokiFYI: I approved this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/application-credentials for Rocky-2. this is nice to have in rocky15:51
e0neamotoki: +115:51
amotokianother FYI is we will merge this just after rocky-1 is cut https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558048/15:52
amotokithis might break some horizon plugins UT if they haven't take care mox testing.15:53
e0neamotoki: ok. I'll cut rocky-1 tomorrow15:53
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amotokiah... I have more thing to dicsuss.15:55
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amotokiis anyone interested in a release liaison?15:55
e0neamotoki: sure15:55
amotokiying is the current release liaison.15:55
amotokiPTL is the default release liaison, so it is not a big problem though.15:56
e0neamotoki: I think we have to change it to me for now15:56
e0ne#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons15:56
e0newe need Stable Branch Liaison too15:56
amotokiI am not sure what is Stable Branch Liaison responsible for.15:57
amotokiit is usually one of roles of stable reviewres.15:58
e0neamotoki: that's why I can't do it now:(15:59
e0ne#endmeeting16:00
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e0nethanks everybody16:00
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