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| cdent | #startmeeting nova sheduler | 14:00 |
|---|---|---|
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 11 14:00:41 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova sheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_sheduler' | 14:00 |
| efried | ō/ | 14:00 |
| mriedem | <:-) | 14:00 |
| cdent | #chair efried edleafe mriedem | 14:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent edleafe efried mriedem | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:01 |
| cdent | I believe jaypipes is at training today | 14:01 |
| efried | cdent: oh, s/sheduler/scheduler/ or the logs go wrong place | 14:01 |
| tetsuro | o/ | 14:01 |
| cdent | #endmeeting | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 11 14:01:20 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_sheduler/2018/nova_sheduler.2018-06-11-14.00.html | 14:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_sheduler/2018/nova_sheduler.2018-06-11-14.00.txt | 14:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_sheduler/2018/nova_sheduler.2018-06-11-14.00.log.html | 14:01 |
| cdent | #starting meeting nova scheduler | 14:01 |
| mriedem | underscore? | 14:01 |
| cdent | #chair efried edleafe mriedem | 14:01 |
| efried | s/starting meeting/startmeeting | 14:01 |
| cdent | ffs | 14:01 |
| efried | third time's a charm | 14:01 |
| cdent | #startmeeting nova scheduler | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 11 14:02:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova scheduler)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:02 |
| efried | ō/ again | 14:02 |
| efried | whee! | 14:02 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:02 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:02 |
| cdent | mriedem: the underscore gets added automagic | 14:02 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 14:02 |
| tetsuro | o/ | 14:02 |
| cdent | #chair efried mriedem edleafe | 14:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent edleafe efried mriedem | 14:02 |
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| cdent | today I'd like to blame my keyboard, where none of the keys work any more unless I hit them like nails | 14:02 |
| cdent | anyway | 14:03 |
| cdent | welcome | 14:03 |
| efried | a likely exuse | 14:03 |
| cdent | no specific agenda items | 14:03 |
| cdent | #topic reviews to discuss | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews to discuss (Meeting topic: nova scheduler)" | 14:03 | |
| cdent | any reviews that people think need some sync discussion? | 14:03 |
| mriedem | bottom of the consumer generatoin patch is just waiting for dansmith https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567678/ | 14:04 |
| mriedem | s/patch/series/ | 14:04 |
| * bauzas forgot to wave | 14:04 | |
| efried | I'd like to draw attention to the performance issue in the reshape spec. | 14:04 |
| efried | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572583/ | 14:04 |
| efried | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/reshape-provider-tree-performance | 14:05 |
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| efried | TL;DR we don't want to gather allocations every periodic, so we're looking for a way not to do that. | 14:05 |
| efried | Because CERN will point their supercollider at us if we do. | 14:05 |
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| cdent | will that turn us into superheroes? cuz if so, let's leave all the bugs | 14:05 |
| bauzas | it's fine, it's just light | 14:05 |
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| efried | My favorite right now is: we pass allocations=None to update_provider_tree(), and if the virt driver thinks it needs to do a migration, it raises MigrationNeeded, which we catch, gather allocations, and call again. | 14:06 |
| cdent | efried: has anything changed since I expressed an opinion? | 14:06 |
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| efried | cdent: I added the `except MigrationNeeded` wrinkle to your favorite option. | 14:06 |
| efried | cdent: otherwise, no. | 14:06 |
| cdent | efried: I saw that, and I'm not sure I like it, because if there are expensive operations before migration needed is raised, we're doing them twice | 14:07 |
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| efried | True, but it saves us adding a weird special-case ComputeDriver method. | 14:07 |
| mriedem | so the virt driver thinks it needs to do a migration for vgpus because the vgpu inventory is still on the root compute node provider? | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | in this example? | 14:07 |
| efried | mriedem: Yes, that would be an example. | 14:08 |
| bauzas | I was proposing the virt driver to know when to ask for a migration | 14:08 |
| bauzas | because for example what mriedem said | 14:08 |
| efried | cdent: I think the virt driver can do the check up front in whatever way it would have done in the new method anyway. | 14:08 |
| cdent | true | 14:08 |
| efried | cdent: ...if expense is an issue. | 14:08 |
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| efried | bauzas: Yes, it's a given that the virt driver is the only thing that can know if a migration is necessary. The question is, how do we ask it? | 14:09 |
| bauzas | I'm not understanding the relation within the "reshape migration" and the fact we pass all the allocations | 14:09 |
| bauzas | we already pass all the allocations to the virt driver when calling update_blah() right? | 14:10 |
| efried | bauzas: No. The allocations param is newly proposed in the spec. | 14:10 |
| bauzas | oh right | 14:10 |
| efried | bauzas: The problem is that gathering the allocs is expensive, so we don't want to do it on every periodic. | 14:10 |
| efried | bauzas: Because that will make the Swiss mad. | 14:11 |
| bauzas | gotcha | 14:11 |
| bauzas | no, s/swiss/swiss_and_french/ | 14:11 |
| gibi | efried: if the virt the only thing that knows that it needs the allocations then can the virt ask for that allocations from placement? | 14:11 |
| efried | We've never really seen the Swiss break out a can of whup-ass before. | 14:11 |
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| bauzas | CERN is both in France and Swizerland :p | 14:11 |
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| efried | gibi: That's also an idea, BUT we've so far wanted to avoid the virt driver talking directly to placement. | 14:12 |
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| gibi | efried: ahh true | 14:12 |
| efried | bauzas: Well, we're really not worried about the FRENCH getting mad. | 14:12 |
| efried | :P | 14:12 |
| bauzas | French are *always* mad, right | 14:12 |
| bauzas | anyway, trying to think about the problem | 14:12 |
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| efried | So, we don't necessarily need to settle it right here, but if you have strong feelings one way or another, hit the etherpad. | 14:12 |
| bauzas | when I started to think about the migration, I was thinking about the virt driver discovering the problem | 14:12 |
| gibi | efried: passing down a lazy allocations list to the virt and if the virt touches it it indirectly calls placement to load the allocations | 14:13 |
| bauzas | like, 'heh, look, this RC is atm on the root RP' | 14:13 |
| efried | gibi: That's a neat idea. A bit heavyweight, perhaps? | 14:13 |
| efried | bauzas: Exactly. | 14:13 |
| gibi | efried: I know I know. I'm in brainstorming mode I guess :) | 14:13 |
| mriedem | it would be cleaner, | 14:13 |
| mriedem | and lazy loading would match what we do elsewhere for optional fields on objects | 14:14 |
| mriedem | but, it could also be an optimization / cleanup later once we get something that actually works | 14:14 |
| bauzas | if so, yes, an exception provided by the virt could be nice | 14:14 |
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| efried | atm we don't *have* an object for allocations, so we would have to make that, but it's a doable thing. | 14:14 |
| mriedem | anything is doable, but that's why i'm saying it could be later | 14:14 |
| bauzas | like try: update_blah(); except exception.virtMigration: get_allocations(), update_blah | 14:14 |
| cdent | a lazy list (in the same process) seems kind of an artificial way to overcome an arbitrary boundary | 14:14 |
| mriedem | we're starting to get crunched for time in this release | 14:14 |
| * cdent nods | 14:15 | |
| cdent | especially since we keep adding more stuff | 14:15 |
| mriedem | i remember talking about the flag option on friday but couldn't remember where we said we could store that flag in the db | 14:15 |
| * cdent STATES THE OBVIOUS | 14:15 | |
| efried | mriedem: Right, because dansmith pointed out that it wasn't per-instance. | 14:15 |
| mriedem | etcd! | 14:15 |
| * dansmith nods | 14:15 | |
| mriedem | basic service! | 14:15 |
| efried | And the db flag also seems like a heavyweight solution to me. | 14:16 |
| efried | This is really simple and local: | 14:16 |
| efried | try: | 14:16 |
| efried | update_provider_tree(provider_tree, None) | 14:16 |
| efried | except MigrationNeeded: | 14:16 |
| efried | update_provider_tree(provider_tree, expensive_allocation_retrieval()) | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | so for the virt option, | 14:16 |
| mriedem | do we just have that as a check in the compute driver temporarily and then we can drop later right? | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | _check_if_vgpu_migrated() # TODO: remove in T? | 14:17 |
| efried | mriedem: We have the check as part of update_provider_tree. And it can be permanent. | 14:17 |
| dansmith | mriedem: only if we provide an offline way to do it remember :) | 14:17 |
| bauzas | I need to leave you in 5/10 mins btw. | 14:17 |
| efried | mriedem: Because it's not just vgpu (or the short list of specific things we know about now). These kinds of migrations could happen at any point in the future, for any number of possible scenarios. This mechanism covers those. | 14:17 |
| mriedem | i understand the mechanism does | 14:18 |
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| mriedem | i'm talking about the specific per-release check in each virt driver | 14:18 |
| mriedem | dansmith: we are providing an offline way to do this | 14:18 |
| mriedem | which just hooks into this same code i thought - or uses part of it | 14:18 |
| efried | oh, does it even need to be a separate method outside of update_provider_tree? | 14:18 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, I know | 14:18 |
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| cdent | efried: I think it ought to be possible to have a cli that calls stuff in update_provider_tree, yeah? | 14:19 |
| efried | Anyway, yeah, the specific internal stuff - wherever it lives - could have a "remove in T" TODO on it. | 14:19 |
| mriedem | efried: i'm talking about whatever logic exists in the virt driver to say that a migration is needed, gimme allocations | 14:19 |
| efried | cdent: That's what we've been figuring. Swhat's written in the spec. | 14:19 |
| efried | mriedem: yuh. | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | ok so this seems fine - agree to go this direction in the spec, get coding and adjust course if there is an unknown dragon? | 14:20 |
| efried | Sounds good to me. | 14:20 |
| * cdent nods | 14:20 | |
| mriedem | dansmith: ^? | 14:20 |
| efried | I've been waiting for dansmith to have a crack at the spec before I post another rev. But I'll put this tweak in the queue. | 14:20 |
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| cdent | The difference I'm seeing is that efried seems to be saying "this can happening magically" and mriedem is saying "each cycle the virt driver may need to know that how we structure things may be different"? | 14:21 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I'm not sure what you're agreeing to that is different than what we discussed, other than just implementation, | 14:21 |
| dansmith | but I'm still ramping up my morning and will have a look at the spec in a bit | 14:21 |
| mriedem | i think of this as a one-time thing specific to a release, that once you do that one thing we don't need to do that one thing again, e.g. move vgpu inventory from root to child | 14:21 |
| dansmith | mriedem: that's one way to look at it, | 14:22 |
| mriedem | and this is required to go from rocky to stein | 14:22 |
| dansmith | I think efried wanted it to be more of a permanent sort of thing | 14:22 |
| efried | mriedem: Does FFU run these offline script thingies on every release in between? | 14:22 |
| cdent | we need it to be more permanent for situations where hardware is added | 14:22 |
| mriedem | the mechanism is permanent | 14:22 |
| dansmith | efried: yes, but so far there has never been one of those that had to run on all the compute nodes | 14:22 |
| mriedem | as a framework | 14:22 |
| efried | cdent: No, for that it's not a migration | 14:22 |
| dansmith | cdent: hardware being added is different than migration | 14:22 |
| efried | cdent: Because allocations don't have to move. | 14:22 |
| dansmith | efried: right | 14:22 |
| cdent | I'm not talking the migration, I'm talking about the mechanism internal to the update_provider_tree "knowing" | 14:23 |
| cdent | it needs to always try to "know" | 14:23 |
| mriedem | cdent: sure i agree that is permanent | 14:23 |
| mriedem | the specific vgpu check is not | 14:23 |
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| cdent | so if we know there, why does there need to be a special thing for migrations? that's the part I'm missing | 14:23 |
| bauzas | well, number of times people said in the spec they want a generic solution | 14:24 |
| bauzas | even if my own point was just for VGPU migrations | 14:24 |
| bauzas | so, I'm not sure people 'd like to have a specific check | 14:24 |
| efried | Basically, if FFU runs its scripty thing against every release's codebase, then yes, we can have the migrationy virt driver stuff removed on every release. But if we can skip releases, then whatever code needs to know how the Q shape changed in R needs to stick around so it can figure that out if we're going from Q to T or whatever. | 14:24 |
| mriedem | cdent: because we don't want to do expensive allocation stuff every periodic for no reason | 14:24 |
| mriedem | efried: you can't skip releases | 14:25 |
| mriedem | FFU is rolling through each release's codebase | 14:25 |
| cdent | which the virtdriver decides if it wants to do at the start of its run, right? | 14:25 |
| mriedem | if T needs to know how things worked in newton, we'd be f'ced | 14:25 |
| dansmith | mriedem: we probably need to talk to some FFU people about the potential for having to run this on all computes though, | 14:25 |
| mriedem | cdent: yes | 14:25 |
| dansmith | because that is definitely a difference from what they have to do today | 14:25 |
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| efried | in order to know whether you have to run it on a compute, you have to .... ask that compute. | 14:26 |
| mriedem | dansmith: todo added to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/reshape-provider-tree-performance, L40 | 14:26 |
| efried | There's no other reliable way to know. | 14:26 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: you're likely closer to any FFU knowing people | 14:26 |
| dansmith | efried: I know | 14:26 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: ack | 14:27 |
| efried | ...whereupon you might as well just run the script on the compute. It'll be a no-op if migration wasn't necessary. | 14:27 |
| mriedem | i'll plead ignorance on what's different here | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | we didn't have to run the ironic flavor migration per compute b/c it was just a thing in the DB right | 14:28 |
| mriedem | ? | 14:28 |
| dansmith | efried: you'll have to, | 14:28 |
| dansmith | I'm just saying they currently don't have to run anything on the computes during the process | 14:28 |
| mriedem | we just re-used logic from the ironic virt driver | 14:28 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah | 14:28 |
| efried | mm | 14:28 |
| mriedem | i guess i thought this was going to be similar | 14:29 |
| dansmith | mriedem: but this will depend on the hardware on the compute | 14:29 |
| dansmith | mriedem: we won't have enough info in the db about every node to do that | 14:29 |
| mriedem | i thought it was just a matter of checking where the vgpu inventory is located in the provider tree? | 14:29 |
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| dansmith | nope | 14:29 |
| mriedem | ok then i'm missing something | 14:30 |
| dansmith | it requires looking at libvirt's topology of the system, seeing how sockets and memory are connected, which gpu is on which numa node, same for sriov, etc | 14:30 |
| dansmith | efried: right? | 14:30 |
| efried | yes. | 14:30 |
| mriedem | ok so seeing vgpu on root provider says "MigrationNeeded!" but we need ^ for actually determining WHERE to move that inventory | 14:30 |
| mriedem | yes? | 14:30 |
| dansmith | right | 14:30 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:30 |
| efried | mriedem: basically, the virt driver is going to have something it does to check whether a migration is needed, and it may or may not be as simple as "do I have VGPUs in the compute RP", but whatever it is, in order to do the check without asking the virt driver, you would have to duplicate that logic somewhere. | 14:31 |
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| efried | and then, yes, to actually *do* anything about it, you definitely need to ask the virt driver - because only the virt driver knows which VGPU is allocated to which instance. | 14:32 |
| dansmith | and, | 14:32 |
| mriedem | the topology would have to be in the db, and we would have had to populate that in an older release | 14:32 |
| mriedem | which we didn't, so we can't rely on it | 14:32 |
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| dansmith | only the virt driver knows which node the pci card is connected to | 14:32 |
| dansmith | efried: er, sorry, read yours as VCPU | 14:32 |
| mriedem | i don't know what alternative the FFU people have to this | 14:33 |
| efried | either way - VCPUs with NUMA-ification, whatever. | 14:33 |
| dansmith | yep | 14:33 |
| mriedem | if you don't do an online migration each release, to let the coputes heal this themselves, then you're doing FFU and this is how we handle this case | 14:33 |
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| mriedem | there will be gnashing of teeth | 14:33 |
| mriedem | but FFS FFU PPL! | 14:33 |
| dansmith | the thing I'm more worried about, | 14:33 |
| dansmith | is that it requires laying down code on the computes, even if you don't start the service, | 14:34 |
| dansmith | which is what they want to avoid in general | 14:34 |
| dansmith | because it makes rollback harder as well | 14:34 |
| dansmith | containers can help if you're that sophisticated, but.. | 14:34 |
| mriedem | run it in a venv? | 14:34 |
| cdent | this is why efried was suggesting that we just make it so these kinds of changes can happen at any release | 14:34 |
| dansmith | right, container | 14:34 |
| dansmith | cdent: yep, I know | 14:34 |
| cdent | a virt driver knows, at any release, that is sees new stuff | 14:34 |
| cdent | and just takes care of it | 14:34 |
| cdent | no ffu hoopa required | 14:35 |
| dansmith | cdent: we've been doing online transformation of simpler things for a long time, | 14:35 |
| dansmith | and the lessons I think we've learned are that keeping that code around and working for a long time is not as trivial as it sounds | 14:35 |
| cdent | why are these (nested rp topology) types of changes release-bound? | 14:35 |
| efried | wait, rollback?? | 14:35 |
| efried | cdent: They're not, I've kept saying. | 14:35 |
| dansmith | efried: manual rollback, nothing fancy | 14:36 |
| cdent | yeah, I'm trying to agree with you | 14:36 |
| efried | cdent: Dammit, keep agreeing with me, wouldja? | 14:36 |
| efried | dansmith: I shudder to think of a *manual* rollback of a migration like this. | 14:36 |
| mriedem | can someone define release bound here? | 14:37 |
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| dansmith | efried: um, okay | 14:37 |
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| dansmith | efried: snapshot the db, if anything goes wrong, you reinstall old packages, restore the db and then call your vendor.. lots of people do that | 14:37 |
| mriedem | we aren't blocking you from getting to stein with this i don't think, the computes will do the migratoin on first startup once you hit your target release | 14:37 |
| efried | cdent: But for FFU purposes, you'd basically have to be "accumulating" the changes, because the FFU process is going to run one step per release. | 14:37 |
| efried | dansmith: Okay, I guess that works too :) Long as you didn't do anything after that that you want to preserve. | 14:38 |
| mriedem | if we dropped this rocky specific check in stein or T or U, and someone goes from queens to V, then they'd be screwed, but we don't support skip level releases | 14:38 |
| dansmith | efried: obviously that's a restriction yes | 14:38 |
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| efried | dansmith: That makes sense, sorry, I was trying to imagine manually issuing the appropriate API calls to unwind a migration like this. | 14:38 |
| cdent | efried: that accumulating is what I don't understand. there's state A (then) and state B (now) from the virt driver's standpoint. if there are states between A and B why do we care when we are planning to send "the state we want" to placement? | 14:39 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I think they should roll forward with the online bit here, and if we can't get to the manual force thing in rocky then we might need a blocker migration of some sort in the future where we make sure this happens in the next release before we touch anything, but the longer we go between those two, the harder it will be to make sure we did the right thing and didn't drop it, IMHO | 14:39 |
| efried | cdent: If the states are cumulative in some sense, don't we hypothetically need to understand how to go from A->B, B->C and also A->C? | 14:39 |
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| cdent | that's what I'm getting at: would they ever be cumulative and can we just say "no"? | 14:40 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: yeah, same for things like dropping old bdm attachment record / flows modeling - it's online now b/c it runs on the compute startup (because it has to) | 14:40 |
| mriedem | and i think we've said we'd have to do some kind of blocker migration before we could ever drop that old attach flow code | 14:41 |
| dansmith | mriedem: that is technically doable not on the computes though right? | 14:41 |
| dansmith | or does it require collecting attachment info only discoverable on the compute? | 14:41 |
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| mriedem | maybe, we need the host connector from the compute, but that is stored in the bdm record for anything created after i think liberty | 14:42 |
| dansmith | anyway | 14:42 |
| mriedem | and it requires a rest call to cinder | 14:42 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:42 |
| mriedem | so, | 14:42 |
| mriedem | we're in agreement to move forward in the spec? | 14:42 |
| mriedem | and we agree that data migrations are a giant pain in the ass | 14:43 |
| dansmith | I'm going to look at it when we're done here | 14:43 |
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| efried | cool cool. Let's move on. Thanks for the talk. | 14:43 |
| efried | Other reviews to discuss/highlight? | 14:45 |
| cdent | #link placement direct https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572576/ | 14:45 |
| cdent | I've got a question in there (the FIXME noted in the commit) about where to put the boundary for things | 14:45 |
| cdent | it doesn't necessarily need to be resolved this cycle | 14:45 |
| cdent | the latest version addressed efried and mriedem 's coments | 14:46 |
| efried | cdent: I haven't looked since PS1 - are we at an Adapter interface at this point? | 14:46 |
| cdent | it returns a NoAuthReportClient now | 14:46 |
| cdent | so yes | 14:46 |
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| efried | schweet | 14:46 |
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| cdent | doing that is part of what introduced the boundary confusion | 14:47 |
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| efried | Other things: | 14:47 |
| efried | consumer gens should be ready to start getting final reviews on. | 14:47 |
| efried | nrp-in-alloc-cands is moving along nicely. | 14:47 |
| efried | placement extraction has several patches ready for review | 14:47 |
| efried | Lemme dig up some links for those... | 14:47 |
| cdent | (but it is the right thing to do and worked nicely. this was an especially productive review loop) | 14:47 |
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| efried | #link consumer gens https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567678/ | 14:48 |
| efried | #link nrp-in-alloc-cands https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559480/ | 14:48 |
| efried | #link placement extraction https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362766/ | 14:48 |
| mriedem | at this point i'd like to remind people again to put stuff in runways | 14:48 |
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| mriedem | because only 1 of those 3 ^ are in runways | 14:48 |
| cdent | I intend to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1773225 today, as the warning is getting to me | 14:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1773225 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "placement needs to stop using accept.best_match from webob it is deprecated" [Low,Triaged] | 14:48 |
| mriedem | and the one is because i told cdent that's how to get review on it | 14:49 |
| mriedem | i feel like the placement stuff is getting a lot of review attention even though it's mostly not in the runways etherpad | 14:49 |
| efried | mriedem: Yeah, one philosophy on runways was that we should put stuff there that wouldn't get as much attention otherwise. | 14:49 |
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| efried | mriedem: I.e. keep urgent top-of-mind placement stuff out of there to keep it clear for lower-pri items. | 14:50 |
| mriedem | i think by doing so, the stuff that's in runways is still not getting attention | 14:50 |
| mriedem | which was the point of runways, getting attention | 14:50 |
| mriedem | things can still be in the runways queue | 14:50 |
| efried | I don't disagree, just echoing info. | 14:50 |
| mriedem | and getting reviewed | 14:50 |
| mriedem | i think the consumer generation stuff would have been in a slot by now if it had been put in the queue weeks ago when it was ready for review | 14:50 |
| efried | though placement-extract wasn't getting as much attention as anything else anyway, so it definitely warrants a runway. | 14:51 |
| efried | That bottom change is 103 patch sets old. | 14:51 |
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| mriedem | i'm speaking out of general anxiety over being in the 3rd milestone and feeling unaware of what's actually going on wrt priorities for the release | 14:52 |
| mriedem | which is maybe just a personal problem :) | 14:52 |
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| efried | True, we kinda punted on the usual priorities list with some hand-waving about runways, but the latter doesn't replace the former. | 14:53 |
| efried | It's not too late for us to nail (or at least write) down a list of priorities for the release. | 14:53 |
| efried | That's probably a topic for the nova meeting tho. | 14:53 |
| mriedem | i wouldn't look at the specs repo for priorities, migrator wouldn't have been in there anyway | 14:54 |
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| cdent | nail is maybe a strong word: given what we added as a priority for placement just last week | 14:54 |
| mriedem | cdent: right | 14:54 |
| cdent | which is probably just the way it goes, sadly | 14:54 |
| mriedem | anyway, i would just like a state of the state or something, but maybe that's just me | 14:55 |
| mriedem | i always had an etherpad of all the approved blueprints and their status by the 3rd milestone to help gauge where things were at | 14:55 |
| cdent | I'll (finally) be able to get back to the placement update this friday (done with travelling) which will probably at least a bit of state | 14:55 |
| mriedem | cool. | 14:56 |
| mriedem | i guess we're done here? | 14:56 |
| cdent | before we all start crying, any last comments before endig the meeting? | 14:56 |
| * efried waits to see if cdent can spell #endmeeting | 14:56 | |
| cdent | other than good luck, and such like? | 14:56 |
| mriedem | too soon | 14:56 |
| cdent | see this is why it is so embarassing, I can spell just fine. I can't type. | 14:56 |
| cdent | #endfried | 14:56 |
| cdent | nope, that's not it | 14:57 |
| efried | hahahha | 14:57 |
| cdent | #endem | 14:57 |
| cdent | almost | 14:57 |
| cdent | going? | 14:57 |
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| cdent | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| cdent | gone | 14:57 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 11 14:57:22 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-06-11-14.02.html | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-06-11-14.02.txt | 14:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-06-11-14.02.log.html | 14:57 |
| gibi | :) | 14:57 |
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