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masahitohi blazar folks, time to weekly meeting09:01
masahito#startmeeting blazar09:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 12 09:02:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:02
masahito#topic RollCall09:02
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hiro-kobayashio/09:02
priteauo/09:02
tetsuroo/09:02
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masahitohiro-kobayashi, priteau: hi09:02
masahitotetsuro: hi09:02
masahitotoday's agenda is09:02
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masahito1. R-2 milestone09:03
masahito2. AOB09:03
masahitoanything else?09:03
masahitoless topics.09:03
hiro-kobayashiI’m joining from mobile and will be temporally unavailable today.09:03
masahitohiro-kobayashi: got it.09:03
masahito#topic R-2 milestone09:04
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masahitoAs I mentioned last meeting, I pushed the patch for gate failure and merged it.09:04
priteauThanks!09:05
masahitoI tagged 2.0.0.0b2 tag later commit the patch merged.09:05
hiro-kobayashithank you for quickly solving the problem!09:05
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masahitoI guess Blazar server of the tag works well.09:06
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masahitoany comments? if nothing, move on to next.09:07
priteauI submitted a patch for python-blazarclient which unfortunately didn't make it to the tagged release09:07
priteau(for region support)09:07
priteauDo you think we could release a new client on PyPI before Rocky?09:08
masahitopriteau: thanks the patch!09:08
masahitoyes. I plan to release a new python client 2.0.0 for Rocky.09:09
masahitoIMO, the tag numbering among blazar, blazar-nova, python-blazarclient, dashboard should be synchronized at major release.09:09
priteauDo you think we could backport the patch to Queens and release a minor version?09:10
priteauCurrently Chameleon users have to install our fork on GitHub, which is not convenient09:10
masahitomeaning backport to stable/queens branch or backport to 1.x.y?09:11
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priteauboth?09:12
priteauBackport to stable/queens branch and tag 1.0.209:12
priteauIs that the correct process?09:12
masahitoIIRC, backport is only for bug fix or security issue in OpenStack09:13
priteauIt is a bug fix09:13
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masahitoah, Does Chameleon's client fork from stable/queens?09:15
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priteauJust from master. We only forked because the patch is still being reviewed.09:16
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priteauBut this is a bug fix that should be included in the python-blazarclient version that is installed with pip.09:16
masahitoI see. I understand your situation.09:17
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masahitoI already tagged 1.1.0.  Is 1.1.1 OK?09:18
priteauSure09:19
masahitoThe client freeze is same time at R-3 milestone. Before 2.0.0 release, I'll put the 1.1.1.09:20
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masahitolet't move on to next09:21
masahito#topic AOB09:21
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masahitoDoes someone have topic to share/discuss?09:21
priteauThanks masahito! Sorry, my question was more AOB than Rocky-related in the end09:22
priteauNothing else from me09:22
masahitoI have an update09:23
masahitoI pushed a spec for resource-availability API https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574628/09:23
hiro-kobayashigood news! thanks09:24
masahitoI noticed two points while I was writing the spec.09:24
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masahito1. Should the API return or only pending and active reservation or terminated reservation as well?09:25
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masahito2. The API response could be huge if there're lots of hosts or reservation.09:26
hiro-kobayashifor 1, I think terminated lease info is not useful for users who want to create a lease09:27
masahitoIn general, #2 can be solved once get and list API support paging feature.09:27
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priteau1. This could be useful for admins who want to track past usage. Could be an option though?09:28
priteau2. Can we use pagination?09:28
hiro-kobayashicurrent Lease List API and Host List API have the same problems  with #209:29
masahitoright. So I could imagine adding query parameter, terminated=True/False, to handle the problem.09:29
hiro-kobayashimake sense09:30
masahitoBlazar API doesn't support pagination mechanism now. If needed, we need to implement it.09:30
masahitopriteau: In your cloud, does listing all leases have performance issue now?09:31
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priteauWe could probably release this feature without pagination at first09:31
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masahitoYes, so I wrote the issue in the performance impact section.09:32
masahitoThank you for your feedback. I'll update the spec based on the discussion.09:33
priteaumasahito: Not so much. It takes just a few seconds to list all leases09:33
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priteauAnd that's including getting a token09:34
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masahitopriteau: Good to hear. we could start the API without pagination.09:34
priteau2 seconds with a pre-allocated token09:34
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masahitoThat's from my side.09:35
priteauThat is for 1025 leases09:35
hiro-kobayashipriteau: better than my expectation :-)09:36
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hiro-kobayashimy update is that I pushed all patches for policy-in-code.09:36
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hiro-kobayashiIt’s already in review, thanks!09:37
priteauActually what takes more time to list is the hosts, almost 10 seconds for 370 hosts, but we have lots of extra capabilities09:38
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priteauIt's on my TODO list to investigate if there is any unoptimised query to get all hosts09:39
masahitoThat's a nice feedback. I didn't know the query issue.09:40
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priteauThanks both for submitting spec and patches09:42
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masahitoanything else? If nothing, let's finish early.a09:42
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masahitoOkay, then thanks all!09:44
masahitobye.09:44
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masahito#endmeeting09:45
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lbragstad#startmeeting keystone16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 12 16:00:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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lbragstadayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, gagehugo, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar, jdennis, ruan_he, wxy, sonuk16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'16:00
hrybackio/16:00
lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting16:00
lamto/16:00
sonuko/16:00
wxy|o/16:00
ayoungOyez oyez16:00
knikollao/16:00
kmalloco/16:00
cmurphyo/16:01
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gagehugo_o/16:01
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lbragstad#topic Announcements16:02
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lbragstad#info Specification freeze is in effect16:02
lbragstadlast friday was rocky-216:02
lbragstadso - we're past the specification deadline16:02
lbragstadand with that16:03
lbragstad#info feature freeze is in a month16:03
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lbragstad#topic Reviews16:03
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lbragstadthere are several efforts/specifications that are in need of feedback16:04
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lbragstadjgrassler: has asked for early feedback on the migration for app creds16:04
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572776/16:04
lbragstadhrybacki: has been working on the default roles support, which is ready for reviews now that tempest is passing16:05
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:basic-default-roles16:05
lbragstadwxy|: has a bunch of things up for unified limits16:05
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/unified-limits+status:open16:05
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/strict-two-level-model+status:open16:05
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1754184+status:open16:05
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:bp/unified-limit-improve16:05
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lbragstadand there is a patch up for MFA receipts16:06
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lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572776/16:06
lbragstadso - plenty of things to review16:06
hrybacki:)16:06
lbragstaddoes anyone else have things to share as far as feature/spec reviews?16:07
lbragstador specific reviews to call out?16:07
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kmallocto unblock the triple-o folks we need eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574735/16:07
wxy|and this one yaml catalog backend: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483514/16:07
ayoungI guess that means me16:08
kmallocthe flask-conversion dispatching support caused an issue with JSON Home on / (I also need to add an added test)16:08
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ayoungand you hrybacki16:08
ayoungneed a non RH er to look at is as well.  We should remember that rule16:09
lbragstadi have the flask reviews pulled up, i can take a look too16:09
hrybackialways a best practice16:09
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kmallocayoung: it's not really a "rule" due to small(er) numbers of cores. but all added eyes, red hat or not are welcome16:09
ayoungkmalloc, yeah.  Just realized how the dynamic has changed.  Any IBMers left?16:10
kmallocHenry is still core16:10
lbragstadhenry posted to the mailing list last week16:10
ayoungand stevemar does drivebys...ok16:11
knikollabeen looking at that patch for the last half-hour, took me a bit to decrypt the router composition16:11
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lbragstadhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-May/130854.html16:11
kmallocah henry has said he's hanging up his core status.16:11
ayoungknikolla, yeah, I can see how that is funky.16:11
ayoungI guess I've been deep enough in it.16:12
kmallocthe router composition stuff is ... dense16:12
knikollaayoung: It's routers all the way down!16:12
ayoungHeh16:12
kmallocit's all going away16:12
kmallocbut it's a slow roll to go away- losing the composing router code is a win.16:12
ayoungYes16:12
ayoungthere was another flask side effect I just saw16:13
knikolla\o/16:13
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/568377/16:13
ayoungno not that16:13
ayoungone sec16:13
ayoungah, yes...last comment there:16:14
ayoungafter transition to flask:-16:14
ayoungbelow unversioned url is not working:-16:14
ayoungpython -c "import requests,json;r=requests.get('http://<ip>:5000',verify=False,headers={'Accept': 'application/json-home'});print(r.content)"16:14
ayoungversioned one works:-16:14
ayoungpython -c "import requests,json;r=requests.get('http://<ip>:5000/v3',verify=False,headers={'Accept': 'application/json-home'});print(r.content)"16:14
ayoungneed to bump that to its own bug16:14
lbragstadayoung: kmalloc has a patch up to fix that16:14
kmallocright, that is bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/177650616:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1776506 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Keystone JSON HOME on / fails" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Morgan Fainberg (mdrnstm)16:14
ayoungcool16:14
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kmallocand closed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574735/16:14
kmallocbut https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574735/ needs another test to ensure we don't regress.16:14
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ayoung++16:14
kmalloci'll get that test post meeting16:14
kmallocand expand commit message16:15
ayoungOK16:15
kmallocayoung: that is the triple-o blocking bug, btw16:15
ayoung+2 from me.16:15
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kmallocmy plan is to add a test but otherwise leave the code as is, extra eyes are welcome to ensure the code is good16:15
kmalloci can rebase it off the chain i think, but it's in a flask chain right now.16:16
kmallocso it has parent patches.16:16
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ayounglbragstad, of the ones you posted above, what is burining?16:16
lbragstadhmm16:17
lbragstadthat's a tough questions16:17
lbragstadbecause i'm inclined to say everything :)16:17
ayoungHa16:17
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lbragstadIMO - the unified limits stuff needs eyes16:17
lbragstadbecause it's a lot of moving pieces16:17
lbragstadsame with default roles16:18
lbragstadthere isn't a ton up for review for app creds or MFA receipts, yet...16:18
lbragstadbut early feedback is always valuable16:18
lbragstadi'm also going to be spending a bunch of time working on unified limit support in the clients, so that should help people if they want to test manually16:19
kmallocplease review the client parts of limits, there are few people with experience in clients, at least this gets folks familiar with it.16:20
kmallocand anything default roles.16:20
kmallocthe other things are smouldering vs outright on fire :)16:21
lbragstadyeah - we're going to have a lot of patches queued up for default role usage after that patch lands16:21
hrybackiplease help me make sure I'm covering bases with those tests16:21
ayounghrybacki, on the default roles. The code as is looks good.  BUt, have we done the "how will we resolve conflicts?"  analysis if, say a role exist but is not in the config file or something?16:21
hrybackiayoung: in an automated fashion?16:21
ayounghrybacki, lets start with "written down somewhere" first16:22
hrybackiayoung: in the spec, yes16:22
hrybackiand will likely be in release note verbage16:22
ayoungOK, so we've asked "how can someone break default roles."  THos need to end up in the tests somehow16:22
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hrybackigood point16:23
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ayoungAll we are doing is creating the role if it does not exist.  That should not break anything16:24
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lbragstadright16:25
ayoungwe have not yet done the "banana test" as that is outside the scope.  Ok.  I think I can endorse this patch16:25
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* lbragstad has no idea what a banana test is16:25
ayounglbragstad, that was from the summit16:26
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ayoungthe guy from....Verison?  had a test where he creaded a role called banana16:26
ayoungand assigned it to  user16:26
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ayoungsince no policy was written to use that role, it should have had 0 effect16:26
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ayoungif it allowed the user to perform some operation, "it slipped on the banana"16:26
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hrybackiVerizon or AT&T (felipe?)16:27
lbragstadlol16:27
lbragstadthat's clever16:27
ayoungWanna say it was Verison16:27
ayounglbragstad, yeah, I want that in Tempest16:27
ayounganything else burninating?16:28
ayoungOh, on default roles16:28
* hrybacki ayoung american politics are burninating 16:28
lbragstadi think those are the main ones16:28
kmallocwell, by default, remember *any* role on a project allows some level of access16:28
ayoungdo we want to add a rule that says "admin implies memeber?"16:28
kmallocit's the core concept of what "member" was.16:29
ayoungexcept spelled right16:29
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knikollain the current state yes16:29
kmallocso, i'm not surprised banana allowed that.16:29
knikollabut I assume we want to fix that with default roles16:29
hrybackiayoung: can we do implications in policy files?16:29
kmallocthat's a hard fix knikolla, but i'd like to seethat fixed16:29
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ayounghrybacki, yes, but it is messy16:29
ayoungrole:member or role:admin becomes a rule16:30
ayoungand then rule:member:  role:memeber or role:admin16:30
knikollahrybacki: but i don't think you need to. keystone will expand implications on token validation IIRC.16:30
hrybackiah, interesting. I didn't realize you could do that16:30
ayoungand then update the various rules...it is messy16:30
ayoungknikolla, it is a config option to expand16:30
knikollaso you only need member in the policy file.16:30
knikollaayoung: argh.16:30
ayoungon by defualt16:31
ayoungwe gave them an opt out16:31
hrybackimy next question ^^16:31
ayounghttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/conf/token.py#n11416:32
ayoungon by default: [token] infer_roles = True16:32
knikollacan we deprecate and eventually remove that option?16:32
ayoungYes16:32
kmallocwe can deprecate and remove a bunch of the token revoke options.16:33
kmallocbut that one, definitely16:33
ayoungknikolla, oh yes16:33
knikollaRemove in S? T?16:34
kmallocthe net impact of just dropping the option on the floor is effectively zero16:34
lbragstadi think S would be too soon to remove it16:34
kmallocwe could just deprecate and never reference it.16:35
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ayoungSo, one reason that was in there was if we were going to generate the policy files from the keystone side.  I think we are safe in saying we are not going to do that16:36
kmalloc++16:36
ayoungIf we generated the policy, then it would be more efficient to expand implied roles in the policy file.16:36
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lbragstaddoes anyone have anything else regarding reviews or specs?16:38
lbragstadotherwise i'll switch to open discussion16:38
lbragstad#topic open discussion16:40
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lbragstadfloor is open if anyone has anything they'd like to talk about16:40
hrybackiI think you are all swell people. EoM16:41
lbragstadha16:42
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kmalloc<success command omitted> hrybacki is a positive influence on the keystone community (he always was, but specifically told everyone they are swell)16:42
hrybackilol16:43
knikolla\o/16:43
hrybackio/\o16:43
hrybackiangry bird or high five, the real topic of discussion16:43
kmalloc^  ^16:44
kmalloco/\o16:44
kmalloc(^_^)/\(^_^)16:44
kmalloc^516:44
lbragstadsounds like we can get some time back before office hours16:44
hrybacki:)16:45
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lbragstadthanks for coming!16:45
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lbragstad#endmeeting16:45
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hrybackithanks lbragstad !16:45
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