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| zhaochao | #startmeeting trove | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 20 14:00:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhaochao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 14:00 |
| zhaochao | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:00 | |
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| gang | hi | 14:01 |
| songjian1994 | o/ | 14:02 |
| zhaochao | Courtesy ping fanzhang kumarmn maciejjozefczyk songjian1994 wangyao zhanggang | 14:02 |
| zhaochao | gang: songjian1994 hi | 14:02 |
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| zhaochao | let's wait some more minutes to see if any other ones will show up | 14:03 |
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| zhaochao | OK, let's start | 14:05 |
| zhaochao | #topic Rocky goal updates | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky goal updates (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:05 | |
| zhaochao | I updated the mox-removal patches in trove-dashboard, hopefully we could get them merged soon | 14:06 |
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| zhaochao | and the cluster modules support in troveclient OSC is finally merged, thanks for yao and gang | 14:07 |
| zhaochao | I also noticed several patches of the python3-first topic | 14:07 |
| gang | I saw the update, all has passed the zuul gate, I think we could add +2 to merge them. | 14:08 |
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| zhaochao | yes, the first patch of this serie in trove repo could be merged | 14:08 |
| zhaochao | but we have some problems in trove and troveclient for python3 support, which were not known by us before | 14:09 |
| gang | zhaochao: you mean the gettext problem? | 14:09 |
| zhaochao | gang: no, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/trove+branch:master+topic:python3-first | 14:10 |
| zhaochao | though the checking jobs failed by pylint, the root causes are in trove api and troveclient | 14:11 |
| zhaochao | we have some python3 issues inside trove api and troveclient, mostly by the distinction bwteen 'str' and 'bytes' in python 3 | 14:12 |
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| zhaochao | there may be some more furture problems for python3 support, we have to do some investigation on that | 14:13 |
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| zhaochao | if all these pathes finally get merged, as tox environment defaults to python3, then we could say trove is python3 compatible | 14:14 |
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| gang | it seems should treat python3 support as the first priority. | 14:15 |
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| zhaochao | I also think python3 support is important, and I'll try to help to get these patches to be merged, some other patches may have to be submitted and merged before that | 14:17 |
| songjian1994 | I remember that the community has a time plan for all project support py3? | 14:18 |
| zhaochao | as we decided to limit our rocky goals, we may have time to get all these goals finished before rocky release | 14:19 |
| songjian1994 | ok,I see | 14:19 |
| zhaochao | songjian1994: I didn't get a clear plan for that, but it seems py3 support is one of the global goals in Pike(?) cycle | 14:20 |
| songjian1994 | I remember it was once there, but it is not clear enough | 14:21 |
| zhaochao | yes, anyway, it's better the community finnally start this work, and we also found there are problems for py3 support in trove | 14:22 |
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| zhaochao | let me mark the link about python3 first | 14:23 |
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| zhaochao | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/python3-first | 14:23 |
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| zhaochao | that's all from me today. anything updated from you? | 14:25 |
| gang | zhaochao: you can list the problems about lack of py3 support in trove, may we could do some work for some of them. | 14:25 |
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| gang | I just update two patch about the readme.rst and a volume_type apischema. Please review. | 14:26 |
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| zhaochao | gang: yes, I get the notification email, will review them later | 14:26 |
| songjian1994 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571652/ | 14:27 |
| songjian1994 | I discussed this with gang. Maybe we can discuss it again. | 14:27 |
| gang | yes, almost forget. | 14:28 |
| zhaochao | f/me doing a quick looking through on review 571652 | 14:29 |
| * zhaochao doing a quick looking through on review 571652 | 14:29 | |
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| zhaochao | ok, this seems still another problem about datastore versioning support | 14:30 |
| songjian1994 | yes | 14:30 |
| songjian1994 | gang tends to create multi-version control, and I prefer to simply make judgments on the back-end storage itself. | 14:30 |
| zhaochao | yes, it seems we don't have many better solutions before we get more capabilities to datastore version | 14:31 |
| gang | and songjian and I didn't find a beautiful way to do the multi-version control. | 14:32 |
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| songjian1994 | Yes, the version of the database that mysqlcommon manages looks a lot | 14:33 |
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| songjian1994 | I think that such a change looks even more impressive from a more flexible perspective. Our users may have a variety of small version changes, and we can hardly take care of these。 | 14:35 |
| songjian1994 | Although our trovestack can control the version while doing mirroring, customers seem to prefer a more liberal way | 14:35 |
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| zhaochao | I was thinking about datastore version capability about mapping configuration paramters to versions, though this may be a bigger change(and we could also mapping charset and collation to datastore versions too) | 14:39 |
| zhaochao | datastore versions should first defined as some stricter type data in database, and we could compare them, currently datastore version behaves just like a name | 14:41 |
| songjian1994 | I think it is worth planning | 14:42 |
| songjian1994 | Configuration also have this problem | 14:43 |
| gang | yes, it is worth not just for mysql | 14:43 |
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| zhaochao | yes, I remember the basic ideas about this kind of change have been raised before(both bp and commits were submitted), but none of them worked out(maybe only because the developer didn't work on them anymore) | 14:46 |
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| zhaochao | I'll also add this to my todo list | 14:47 |
| songjian1994 | ok,no more from me | 14:49 |
| zhaochao | #action zhaochao do the basic research about datastore versioning improvement, submit a bp if possible | 14:50 |
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| zhaochao | ok, back to the python 3 support | 14:50 |
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| zhaochao | I did some basic research yesterday, in trove api (base_wsgi) we're assigning raw text values to webob response body, this is not permitted under python 3 | 14:53 |
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| zhaochao | on the other side, troveclient, (we're still using troveclient compat part, which is based on httplib2), the reqeust response body is bytes other str under python 3 | 14:54 |
| zhaochao | currently these two problems are blocking the senario tests | 14:55 |
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| zhaochao | pylint also produce more errors under python 3, but those ones could be fixed by modifying the trove-pylint.conf, although removing trove-pylint is also suggested, but I think currently we may not have bandwith to do that | 14:56 |
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| gang | It is a pain from py2 to py3 0.0 | 14:56 |
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| zhaochao | however it was decided that python 2 will be no longer supported after 2020, and many linux distribution are following this direction | 14:59 |
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| zhaochao | oh, didn't notice the time is up | 15:00 |
| zhaochao | thanks, songjian1994 gang | 15:00 |
| zhaochao | if you have time, please help to finish the python 3 first tasks | 15:01 |
| zhaochao | thanks again | 15:01 |
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| zhaochao | Good night! | 15:01 |
| gang | good night! | 15:01 |
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| zhaochao | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 20 15:01:41 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-06-20-14.00.html | 15:01 |
| songjian1994 | good night | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-06-20-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-06-20-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
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| e0ne | #startmeeting horizon | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 20 15:02:38 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 15:02 |
| e0ne | hi Team | 15:03 |
| betherly | o/ | 15:03 |
| vladiskuz | hi | 15:03 |
| e0ne | let's wait few minutes more until more people join us | 15:03 |
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| e0ne | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon | 15:04 |
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| e0ne | our agenda contains release priorities, so feel free to add anything to open discussion section | 15:05 |
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| e0ne | there are no updates from me, so let's skip Notices topic | 15:06 |
| e0ne | #topic mox => mock migration | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "mox => mock migration (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:06 | |
| e0ne | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-unittest-mock-migration - here is our current progress | 15:07 |
| e0ne | I'll propose a patch for openstack_auth later this week | 15:07 |
| e0ne | we can still meet this community goal in Rocky :) | 15:08 |
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| e0ne | #topic horizon release model | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "horizon release model (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:08 | |
| dklyle | o/ | 15:08 |
| e0ne | dklyle: welcome, David:) | 15:09 |
| e0ne | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131458.html | 15:09 |
| e0ne | it would be good to have more feedback on this ^^ mailing thread to discuss it later or at PTG | 15:09 |
| e0ne | it's very important topic for plugins and horizon itsef | 15:10 |
| e0ne | there are two proposals at the moment: | 15:10 |
| e0ne | 1) introduce horizon lib | 15:11 |
| e0ne | 2) release Horizon using the cycle-with-intermediar | 15:11 |
| e0ne | I'll create an etherpad with pros and cons for both options and will send it to the mailing list | 15:11 |
| e0ne | that's all from me | 15:12 |
| e0ne | dklyle: do you have any inputs on this? | 15:12 |
| dklyle | changing release cycle is much lighter weight | 15:13 |
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| dklyle | also are we expecting plugins to used without horizon? | 15:13 |
| dklyle | creating a particial dependency rather than full may not make sense if not | 15:13 |
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| e0ne | dklyle: AFAIK, plugins are not used without horizon | 15:14 |
| e0ne | that's a good point | 15:15 |
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| e0ne | I'm afraid that without good amount of active contributors, we'll have less releases and new features with new cycle | 15:16 |
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| dklyle | then sadly, the problem becomes less pressing | 15:17 |
| e0ne | anyway, I don't expect any decision sooner than PTG | 15:18 |
| e0ne | I'll support any decision which will help us with current issues and community will be OK with it | 15:19 |
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| e0ne | new release model will help us deliver new feature after openstack components will be released | 15:20 |
| e0ne | but I don't know how vendors support projects with cycle-with-intermediar release model in their distos | 15:21 |
| dklyle | that's a good point too | 15:21 |
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| dklyle | I think that prevented us from changing in the past | 15:21 |
| e0ne | rdopiera, betherly: it would be good have inputs from RedHat | 15:22 |
| betherly | e0ne: apologies my input has been sporadic lately! got some time at the moment to fix up some patches and get things going again | 15:23 |
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| e0ne | betherly: np. I just ping you because you've tot own distro and new release model could affect you | 15:24 |
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| betherly | e0ne: ye i need to look into how it works practically | 15:25 |
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| e0ne | betherly: it would be awesome | 15:26 |
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| e0ne | it seems that we've done with this topic | 15:27 |
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| e0ne | #topic Improve Horizon Testing | 15:27 |
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| e0ne | nothing new from the last week | 15:27 |
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| e0ne | I'm testing this patch | 15:28 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575538/ | 15:28 |
| e0ne | it'a fix of some our integration tests | 15:28 |
| betherly | ooo awesome | 15:29 |
| * e0ne forgot to publish patch with experimental integration job to gerrit :( | 15:29 | |
| betherly | ill take a look too | 15:29 |
| e0ne | betherly: thanks! | 15:29 |
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| betherly | whats the best way to test that patch? | 15:29 |
| e0ne | I discussed this topic at the Summit and found several volunteers to fix tests | 15:30 |
| e0ne | betherly: I just use 'tox -e py27integration' to run them | 15:30 |
| e0ne | some of them failed on my env now | 15:30 |
| e0ne | I'm trying to figure out why it happens | 15:30 |
| betherly | e0ne: perfect thanks! will do that | 15:31 |
| e0ne | cool | 15:31 |
| e0ne | #topic Django 2 support | 15:32 |
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| e0ne | nothing new since last week | 15:32 |
| e0ne | #link current status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/django20-support | 15:32 |
| e0ne | it looks pretty good | 15:32 |
| e0ne | only few plugins don't support django2 now | 15:32 |
| e0ne | some of them are not maintained :( | 15:33 |
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| betherly | e0ne: is that something we should discuss more at PTG too re what to do with those? | 15:33 |
| e0ne | betherly: are you talking about django2? | 15:33 |
| betherly | we dont have enough developers to improve horizon features quickly let alone plugins | 15:33 |
| betherly | e0ne: im talking about un-maintained plugins | 15:34 |
| e0ne | betherly: we just help plugin teams with fixing | 15:34 |
| e0ne | to not beak them with new horizon | 15:34 |
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| betherly | e0ne: ye absolutely. my question is are we going to maintain un-maintained plugins ourselves? | 15:35 |
| e0ne | betherly: I don't think so | 15:35 |
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| betherly | if so what is our plan for doing so and working through them | 15:35 |
| e0ne | we've got a very limited capacity | 15:35 |
| betherly | if not do we remove them? | 15:35 |
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| betherly | we dont want to lose functionality but equally if they are not fixed or maintained and then break, that looks worse than not having the functionality at all | 15:36 |
| e0ne | my idea is to have some CI job to verify that plugin works with current horizon | 15:36 |
| e0ne | betherly: +1 | 15:36 |
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| betherly | e0ne: good idea | 15:36 |
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| e0ne | that's why I removed nose almost from all plugins | 15:37 |
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| e0ne | amotoki also helps with plugins to migrate from mox and support django2 | 15:37 |
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| e0ne | betherly: I'll note somewhere to not forget to add this topic to the PTG agenda | 15:39 |
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| e0ne | #topic Open Discussion | 15:40 |
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| e0ne | technically, we started open discussion few minutes ago and there is nothing more in the agenda | 15:40 |
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| e0ne | does anybody want to discuss anything? | 15:42 |
| e0ne | looks like we've done for today | 15:44 |
| e0ne | thanks everybody for the participation | 15:44 |
| e0ne | see you next week! | 15:44 |
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| e0ne | #endmeeting | 15:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 20 15:45:06 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-06-20-15.02.html | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-06-20-15.02.txt | 15:45 |
| vladiskuz | thanks! hava a good one | 15:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-06-20-15.02.log.html | 15:45 |
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