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efried#startmeeting nova_scheduler13:59
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul 16 13:59:59 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler'14:00
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cdento_14:00
takashino/14:00
gibio/14:00
efriedGet up cdent!14:00
alex_xuo/14:00
* cdent is tired14:00
edleafe\o14:00
efried#topic last meeting14:01
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efried#link last minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-07-09-14.01.html14:01
efriedAny old business to bring up?14:01
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jaypipeso/14:02
tssuryao/14:02
efried#topic specs and review14:02
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efried#link latest pupdate: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-July/132252.html (Thanks for covering this, Jay)14:03
efriedHighest priority at the moment is the14:03
efried#link reshaper series: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/reshape-provider-tree+status:open14:03
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efriedcdent: jaypipes and I are working through stuff this morning.14:04
efrieds/:/,/14:04
cdentI _almost_ managed to reshape something. but not quite14:04
jaypipescdent: what did you run into?14:05
jaypipescdent: you mean reshaping with gabbits? or something else?14:05
cdentresource provider generation conflict in set_allocations14:05
cdentyes, reshaping over http14:05
cdentI noted it in my latest push. it's the last test in reshaper.yaml14:05
jaypipesack14:05
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jaypipesok, will look shortly.14:05
efriedLast week we stuffed all of the patches into a single series; we'll see if multiple-authors-on-a-series is more or less painful than maintaining dependencies in other ways.14:06
efriedNote that there's a14:07
efried#link reshaper spec update: https://review.openstack.org/58235014:07
efriedopen to collect design tweaks as needed for implementation.14:07
* efried re -Ws that...14:07
efriedGoing to hold that open until we're pretty much done. Folks should feel free to submit patch sets there.14:08
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efriedAny other specs or reviews people would like to highlight at this time?14:08
efriedor discussion needed on the above?14:08
jaypipesnot from me, no14:09
cdentcarry on14:09
efried#topic bugs14:09
efried#link placement bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement&orderby=-id14:09
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efriedWe've closed the more urgent consumer gen related bugs, which was probably the most important/urgent thing.14:10
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jaypipeshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1781439 should be an easy one for people looking for low-hanging-fruit14:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1781439 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Test & document 1.28 (consumer gen) changes for /resource_providers/{u}/allocations" [Undecided,New]14:10
* jaypipes adds tag in LP14:11
jaypipesI'll shoot a note to the ML14:11
efriedI'd like to point out that bug #1781430 should still be fixed, but is no longer in the critical path since latest tweaks to the reshaper db patch.14:11
openstackbug 1781430 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "AllocationList.delete_all() incorrectly assumes a single consumer" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1781430 - Assigned to Jay Pipes (jaypipes)14:11
efriedAny other bugs anyone would like to highlight or discuss at this time?14:12
jaypipesefried: err, isn't that bug fixed in the bottom patch of the reshaper series?14:13
jaypipesi.e. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/582382/14:13
efriedjaypipes: Yes it is, but not yet merged, and no longer essential for the series.14:13
jaypipesefried: or were you thinking of a different bug?14:13
efriedjaypipes: I don't anticipate it coming to this, but if necessary, it could be yanked out of the series.14:14
gibiefried: that fix is on the gate now :)14:14
jaypipesk14:14
efriedgibi: Thanks. That's the easiest thing :)14:14
efriedmoving on...14:15
efried#topic opens14:15
efriedPlanning/Doing support in nova/report client for: consumer generation handling14:15
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cdentI added that because I figured we needed the reminder, but I don't have much to say beyond that14:15
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efriedThis entails scouring the rt/reportclient for stuff related to allocations, bumping the calls to microversions that handle consumer generations, and possibly handling retries/races accordingly.14:16
efriedI'm guessing cdent jaypipes efried will probably not have the bandwidth to look at this until reshaper winds down. If anyone else wishes to jump in here, that help would be welcomed.14:17
gibiefried, cdent: I will try to keep that on my radar14:17
efriedThanks gibi14:17
efriednext up:14:18
efriedPlanning/Doing support in nova/report client for: nested and shared providers when modifying migration (and other?) allocations14:18
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efriedSimilar in spirit to the above, though probably considerably more complicated.14:18
gibiefried: also I think a bit depends on the former as the nested ac is a higher microversion than the consumer gen14:19
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cdentyeah, that too was "we needed the reminder"14:20
efriedgibi: Well, the nested microversion (1.29) only affects GET /a_c; whereas the consumer gen (1.28) affects the [resource_providers/{u}]/allocations[/{u}] paths.14:20
efriedSo they can still be done mutually exclusively.14:20
efriedHowever,14:20
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efriedI think we should broaden this topic (or add a precursor) for making sure our initial allocations work with nested + shared in the first place.14:21
efriedWe have one example where we've proven shared works on initial allocations - that's libvirt with shared DISK_GB.14:21
efriedI believe gibi is working on a patch for some func tests along these lines with nrp.  Finding...14:22
gibiefried: here is the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527728/ it shows that we need 1.29 for nested a_C14:22
efriedbeaut.14:23
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efriednext up:14:24
efriedPlanning/Doing support in nova/report client for: whatever else is not being remembered right now14:24
efriedCan anyone think of more things we should do on the rt/reportclient side to exploit work we've done in placement lately?14:24
cdentI think we need to be clear to separate what we must do from what we'd like to do. I'm not clear where that boundary currently is14:25
efriedAgree with that.14:25
efriedWe know we need reshaper before we can support nrp for vgpu or numa. That's an easy one.14:25
* cdent nods14:26
gibialso we need 1.28 and 1.29 support in the report client to support nrp at all outside of reshaping situations14:27
* mriedem forgot the meeting started14:27
efriedDo we need 1.28 though?14:27
efriedDo we actually need consumer gens for anything from nova right now, considering the big lock in the rt?14:28
gibiefried: I feel dangerous getting back allocation candidates from 1.29 and passing it back those to /allocations < 1.2814:28
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efriedThat's fair.14:29
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efriedSo that reminds me: generation support for aggregate operations.14:30
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efried#link Check provider generation and retry on conflict: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556669/14:31
efriedThis *is* crucial because we *do* have a race on aggregates, since we're mirroring host aggs in the api service.14:31
efriedThis patch has been through the wringer a fair bit, but I think it's ready to be reviewed now.14:32
efriedcdent, jaypipes, mriedem: you have had eyes on this previously; would you mind having another look please?14:32
cdentyessir14:32
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mriedemcurrently working on fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/178171014:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1781710 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ServersOnMultiNodesTest.test_create_server_with_scheduler_hint_group_anti_affinity failing with "Servers are on the same host"" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)14:33
mriedembut yeah for later14:33
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efriedSo I think making sure both initial and migrating allocs work for shared+nested <= this is in the critical path for nrp support, possibly even more important than reshaper because it affects even initial nrp impls (those not requiring reshaper to get started).14:34
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efriedcdent: Sounds like the answer is: It's all "must do" o_O14:35
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cdentyay?14:35
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gibibusiness as usual14:35
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efriedIf nobody else has volunteered by the time reshaper winds down, I'll probably hit that last one, because I'm going to be implementing such a driver (initial nrp not requiring reshaper).14:36
cdenti'll have a more clear picture in a few days14:37
efriedOkay; any other open discussion topics?14:38
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efriedHere's one then: anyone feel like (co-)proposing a placement (or other scheduler) topic for Berlin?14:39
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cdentI'm trying really hard to avoid presenting at summit.14:40
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cdentjaypipes: you continuing your plan of not going?14:41
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gibiefried: I and others proposed one for bandwidth14:42
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efriedOkay. I'm about 20% motivated to propose another placement update like the last one. It went well, but not sure the value:effort ratio is high enough.14:44
cdentefried: check with me about joining for one wherever the post berlin one is. I should be off the tc by then14:45
efriedroger wilco.14:45
efriedOkay, any other topics before we close?14:45
cdentlet's call it14:45
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efriedThanks all.14:46
efried#endmeeting14:46
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cdentthanks efried14:47
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