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| dkrol | #startmeeting trove | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 5 14:00:41 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkrol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 14:00 |
| dkrol | Hello All | 14:00 |
| dkrol | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:01 | |
| bzurkowski | Hello | 14:01 |
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| mpiwowarczy | hi | 14:02 |
| dkrol | Let's wait for 5 more minutes | 14:02 |
| bzurkowski | mpiwowarczy: Hello :) | 14:02 |
| mpiwowarczy | bzurkowski: hi | 14:02 |
| dkrol | is there anyone else out there for Trove meeting ? :) | 14:03 |
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| dkrol | #topic Recent changes and reviews | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Recent changes and reviews (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:06 | |
| dkrol | Ok, I have 3 items on agenda for today | 14:07 |
| dkrol | and first one is recent changes and reviews | 14:07 |
| dkrol | did you found some time to work on upstream ? | 14:07 |
| mpiwowarczy | no much changes last week | 14:08 |
| mpiwowarczy | I'm still waiting for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596699/ | 14:08 |
| mpiwowarczy | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572986/ | 14:09 |
| mpiwowarczy | bzurkowski has added some comments, thanks | 14:09 |
| mpiwowarczy | I have fixed them, if anyone has time it would be fine to merge thers changes | 14:10 |
| bzurkowski | Generally, these changes are fine, but it would be good if someone else looked at them. | 14:11 |
| bzurkowski | From my side, I added one new change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/600013/ | 14:11 |
| bzurkowski | It's the first testing scenario in Trove Tempest plugin convering instance provisioning | 14:12 |
| bzurkowski | The change is not perfect, but I decided to give it to your review early to speed up the progress. | 14:13 |
| bzurkowski | Scenario is not gonna pass at this point, because required infrastructure is not present yet (guest images, Tempest configuration, etc.) | 14:14 |
| dkrol | I noticed we have a new potential contributor | 14:14 |
| dkrol | - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/594904/ | 14:15 |
| bzurkowski | Me or somebody else could work on the infrastructure in parallel. | 14:15 |
| dkrol | - not sure what to do about it | 14:15 |
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| dkrol | - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596179/ | 14:15 |
| dkrol | I reviewed this one but it has not tests | 14:15 |
| dkrol | bzurkowski: so how we should test it ? :) or do you only want to ask about code quality ? | 14:17 |
| bzurkowski | dkrol: Yes, I'm asking for review. | 14:17 |
| dkrol | do you know what should be done for trove-tempest-plugin tests to work with this change ? | 14:19 |
| bzurkowski | I want people to get familiar with new testing scenario concept, and in the meantime, we can work on the infrastructure. | 14:19 |
| bzurkowski | dkrol: We already had some discussion on this during weekly meetings. It's related to trovestack-redesign topic. | 14:19 |
| dkrol | "guest images, tempest configuration, etc" - do we have a list of necessary changes ? | 14:19 |
| dkrol | ok, but is there a detailed list of things to be done ? | 14:20 |
| bzurkowski | dkrol: Not yet. We could add it to the etherpad with trovestack-redesign. | 14:20 |
| dkrol | ok, IMHO without a specific list of tasks we will not do much work | 14:21 |
| dkrol | etherpad is a great place so we can start writing it down | 14:22 |
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| dkrol | ok, so maybe lets change topic | 14:23 |
| bzurkowski | dkrol: Agree. Let's list all required changes there. | 14:23 |
| dkrol | #topic Trovestack redesign | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Trovestack redesign (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:23 | |
| dkrol | is there anything new about it ? | 14:23 |
| bzurkowski | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trovestack-redesign | 14:24 |
| bzurkowski | There is quite a lot of information in this pad | 14:24 |
| dkrol | yes, but did you work on it lately ? or mpiwowarczy ? | 14:25 |
| bzurkowski | I added note about Octavia | 14:26 |
| mpiwowarczy | dkrol: I have added notes about Integration tests to Related topics section | 14:26 |
| dkrol | great | 14:26 |
| mpiwowarczy | this is what we agree on last meeting | 14:26 |
| bzurkowski | They are building amphora images in devstack plugin and also have dedicated role for building images in CI pipeline | 14:27 |
| bzurkowski | I suggest reviewing their work as the first step | 14:27 |
| bzurkowski | https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/88649d95477f63100ae64ee174347da8a7ddd903/devstack/plugin.sh#L48 | 14:27 |
| bzurkowski | https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/e5f0a1c76eb0e10aeb011cc31eb1527989ff5e6e/playbooks/image-build/run.yaml | 14:27 |
| dkrol | ok, I was about to ask what should be our first step | 14:28 |
| dkrol | so building images | 14:28 |
| dkrol | are we talking mariadb only or something else ? | 14:28 |
| bzurkowski | We may build image for MySQL or MariaDB by default and optionally allow user to specify other datastore | 14:30 |
| dkrol | ok | 14:31 |
| dkrol | how do you see timeframe for it ? | 14:31 |
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| bzurkowski | It's a lot of work :) | 14:32 |
| dkrol | 3 weeks ? | 14:32 |
| bzurkowski | I have no experience in developing devstack plugins | 14:33 |
| bzurkowski | Have no idea about the workflow | 14:33 |
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| bzurkowski | But I guess that implementing that would take at least one week | 14:34 |
| dkrol | ok | 14:34 |
| mpiwowarczy | IMHO we could investigate it and estimate it later | 14:34 |
| dkrol | sure, but probably we need to start working on it | 14:35 |
| bzurkowski | s/that/this | 14:35 |
| dkrol | ok | 14:37 |
| dkrol | let's change topic | 14:38 |
| dkrol | #topic Stein goal discussion | 14:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stein goal discussion (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:38 | |
| dkrol | I wanted to ask about python3 | 14:38 |
| dkrol | how far are we from completing this task ? | 14:38 |
| mpiwowarczy | tox for python3 is almost finished | 14:39 |
| bzurkowski | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/stein/python3-first.html#completion-criteria | 14:39 |
| dkrol | "There are functional test jobs running under python 3." | 14:40 |
| dkrol | how about this ? | 14:40 |
| mpiwowarczy | I saw this doc | 14:40 |
| mpiwowarczy | I think we can mark this point as finished when mentioned changes will be merged | 14:41 |
| dkrol | ok, so we are thinking that tempest doesn't have to run under python 3 ? | 14:42 |
| dkrol | and what about trovestack ? | 14:44 |
| mpiwowarczy | they should be, but I do not classify them as functional test | 14:44 |
| mpiwowarczy | trovestack tests will be as the only still executed under python2 | 14:44 |
| mpiwowarczy | I have added notes about it to trovestack-redesign etherpad | 14:45 |
| bzurkowski | I see. Trovestack is going to be the tough one. | 14:46 |
| dkrol | IMHO if we have tempest running under python 3 than trovestack is not so important | 14:46 |
| dkrol | but there is also https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180529-python2-deprecation-timeline.html#python2-deprecation-timeline | 14:47 |
| dkrol | mpiwowarczy: how much work do you see on tox for python 3 ? | 14:48 |
| bzurkowski | #info Python 3 support deadline: Jan. 1, 2020 | 14:48 |
| mpiwowarczy | It is almost finished | 14:50 |
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| mpiwowarczy | I'm waiting for review now | 14:50 |
| mpiwowarczy | once it will be done we will be able to merge all tox tasks | 14:50 |
| dkrol | great | 14:51 |
| dkrol | review only from bzurkowski ? | 14:51 |
| mpiwowarczy | as bzurkowski mentioned, it would be nice if any more will also look on these changes | 14:52 |
| dkrol | ok | 14:53 |
| bzurkowski | One more thought about Python 3 support for Trovestack | 14:53 |
| bzurkowski | Since we don't know how much time is needed for covering Trove API with Tempest tests it might be reasonable to seriously consider support for Trovestack as well | 14:53 |
| dkrol | yes, I agree | 14:54 |
| dkrol | the main issue is with testing library, which seems to be supporting python3 but we didn't check it yet | 14:54 |
| bzurkowski | In case we did not manage to finish it before the deadline | 14:54 |
| dkrol | it seems we should focus more on this task as it is the main openstack-wide goal for this release | 14:54 |
| dkrol | also TroveClient - OSC migration is high on my list | 14:55 |
| dkrol | but I didn't have time to check status of this task :/ | 14:55 |
| dkrol | anyway, let's try to focus on python3, tempest and trovestack design for now | 14:56 |
| dkrol | and resolve them | 14:56 |
| mpiwowarczy | dkrol: got it | 14:56 |
| dkrol | ok, I think we can finish for today | 14:57 |
| dkrol | do we have anything else ? | 14:57 |
| bzurkowski | Nothing from my side | 14:57 |
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| mpiwowarczy | nothing | 14:57 |
| dkrol | great | 14:57 |
| dkrol | then thanks for the meeting | 14:57 |
| bzurkowski | Thank you and goodbye :) | 14:58 |
| dkrol | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 5 14:58:12 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-09-05-14.00.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-09-05-14.00.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-09-05-14.00.log.html | 14:58 |
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| e0ne | #startmeeting horizon | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 5 15:02:58 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 15:03 |
| e0ne | hi everybody | 15:03 |
| rdopiera | o/ | 15:03 |
| e0ne | amotoki, dklyle, betherly_ : are you around? | 15:06 |
| dklyle | o/ | 15:07 |
| betherly_ | o/ | 15:07 |
| betherly_ | sorry im late | 15:07 |
| e0ne | ok, let's start | 15:09 |
| e0ne | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon | 15:09 |
| e0ne | #topic Notices | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:09 | |
| e0ne | We'd got Rocky release last week | 15:11 |
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| e0ne | thanks everybody for contributions! | 15:11 |
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| amotoki | hi | 15:11 |
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| betherly_ | \o/ | 15:12 |
| e0ne | amotoki: hi | 15:12 |
| e0ne | #topic OpenStack PTG | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack PTG (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:12 | |
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| e0ne | we'll have PTG next week! | 15:12 |
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| e0ne | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-ptg-planning-denver-2018 | 15:12 |
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| e0ne | after the conversation with amotoki, I would like to move most of proposed topic to Tuesday | 15:13 |
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| e0ne | since on Monday there'll be operators meetup and few WGs sessions | 15:14 |
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| e0ne | I'll send a mail with proposed schedule tomorrow | 15:14 |
| amotoki | and other cross project sessions | 15:14 |
| e0ne | amotoki: +1 | 15:14 |
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| e0ne | please, add your name at the topic you're interested in, so we can adjust a schedule to get more attendees | 15:15 |
| e0ne | and you can add your topics to the etherpad too | 15:15 |
| e0ne | I think we'll have enough time to discuss anything needed | 15:16 |
| e0ne | also, we can get some food and drink on Monday somewhere nearby if people want it | 15:17 |
| e0ne | any more comments about the PTG? | 15:18 |
| e0ne | sounds like we've done with it | 15:19 |
| e0ne | I hope to get good conversations in Denver next week | 15:19 |
| e0ne | if nobody argue, I'll drop few topics from the agenda on this meeting | 15:20 |
| e0ne | they were added as priorities for Rocky release and it worked good | 15:20 |
| e0ne | I would like to do the same for Stein release right after the PTG | 15:21 |
| e0ne | #topic Removing Inactive Cores | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Removing Inactive Cores (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:21 | |
| e0ne | it's pretty sad, but we need to do it to keep project healthy | 15:21 |
| e0ne | I sent a mail to the openstack-dev@ mailing list earlier this week | 15:22 |
| e0ne | #http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134211.html | 15:22 |
| e0ne | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134211.html | 15:22 |
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| e0ne | if there are no objections, I'll cleanup horizon-core team in gerrit today and ask stable team to do the same for horizon-stable-maint group | 15:23 |
| e0ne | amotoki, dklyle, rdopiera: are you OK with this? | 15:23 |
| amotoki | +1 | 15:24 |
| e0ne | I would like to get some confirmation from the core team | 15:24 |
| amotoki | the horizon stable team was not updated for a long time just because it is managed by the stable maint team. | 15:25 |
| e0ne | I think, we can discuss how can we attract new reviewers at the PTG | 15:25 |
| e0ne | amotoki: +1 | 15:25 |
| dklyle | +1 | 15:25 |
| rdopiera | +1 | 15:25 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: by the way, I got an e-mail from launchpad telling me my membership is expiring | 15:26 |
| e0ne | thanks for the confirmation, guys! it's great to know that we're on the same page | 15:26 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: AFAIK, you can re-new your membership in the launchpad group by yourself | 15:26 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: it told me to contact you or dklyle | 15:27 |
| dklyle | e0ne, I think you need admin righst | 15:27 |
| e0ne | I need to check if it works for horizon-drivers group | 15:27 |
| dklyle | *rights | 15:27 |
| e0ne | dklyle: thanks for the information | 15:27 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: me or dklyle will update your membership date :) | 15:28 |
| rdopiera | much appreciated! | 15:28 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: np | 15:29 |
| e0ne | #topic Bug Triage | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Triage (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:29 | |
| amotoki | other members have no expiration date. I wonder why it is set only to rdopiera... | 15:29 |
| e0ne | amotoki, rdopiera: fixed | 15:29 |
| rdopiera | oh, that's because I'm evil >:) | 15:29 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: :) | 15:30 |
| amotoki | LOL | 15:30 |
| e0ne | amotoki: thanks for bug triage reminder | 15:30 |
| dklyle | sometimes I was lazy about that :) | 15:30 |
| dklyle | so many mouse clicks | 15:30 |
| rdopiera | poor mice | 15:30 |
| dklyle | they really do have a raw deal | 15:31 |
| e0ne | IMO, it's my fail because all mails from launchpad was filtered in my mail client and moved to some non-popular folder | 15:31 |
| amotoki | does anyone subscribe launchpad notification for new bugs? | 15:31 |
| e0ne | amotoki: I fixed it on Monday :( | 15:31 |
| rdopiera | I do, but then I filter them all into a separate mailbox that I never look at... | 15:31 |
| e0ne | my plan is pretty simple | 15:32 |
| dklyle | rdopiera, +1 | 15:32 |
| e0ne | and I really want to follow it | 15:32 |
| amotoki | hehe | 15:32 |
| e0ne | I'll check all bugs on weekly basis and send email to openstack-dev@ with a numbers how many bugs were fixed, reported, triaged | 15:32 |
| e0ne | I added a weekly task in my calendar each Thursday | 15:33 |
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| e0ne | I hope, we'll clean up our new non-confirmed bugs queue pretty quick | 15:33 |
| e0ne | amotoki: does this sounds good for you? | 15:34 |
| amotoki | e0ne: it works but I am a bit afraid you try to do too much :) | 15:34 |
| e0ne | amotoki : I'm asking you because your proposed this topic to the agenda | 15:35 |
| e0ne | amotoki: let's try to do it and see how is going | 15:35 |
| amotoki | sounds good | 15:35 |
| amotoki | I usually subscribe two types of bug mails; new and all. | 15:35 |
| e0ne | btw, I finished with our product last week, so I'll have more time for upstream work next months | 15:36 |
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| amotoki | I can know if someone triages a bug by receiving followup bugs mails. | 15:36 |
| e0ne | amotoki: I did the same, but filter was broken and all mails were just archived :( | 15:36 |
| e0ne | maybe I have to clean up my gmail filters | 15:37 |
| e0ne | can we move to the next topic? I've got one more for this meeting | 15:38 |
| amotoki | let's move on | 15:38 |
| e0ne | ok:) | 15:38 |
| e0ne | #topic horizon review inbox | 15:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "horizon review inbox (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:39 | |
| e0ne | we've got about ~120 open patches in the gerrit | 15:39 |
| e0ne | not a big number even for a small team | 15:39 |
| e0ne | but there are a log of old patches if -1 from 2017 | 15:40 |
| e0ne | I know that sometime people just haven't time to address comments | 15:40 |
| rdopiera | I would be skeptical about them ever merging | 15:40 |
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| rdopiera | there was this "abandoned due to inactivity" thing? | 15:41 |
| e0ne | but I think it should be ok to abandon some old patches. e.g.: all patches with no updates for the last 3-4 months | 15:41 |
| rdopiera | people can always reopen them | 15:41 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: that's what I'm talking about | 15:42 |
| e0ne | #link https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/tools/abandon_old_reviews.sh | 15:42 |
| rdopiera | I think we always did it after a release or something like that? | 15:42 |
| e0ne | I just don't want to do it without notification | 15:42 |
| dklyle | yeah, I add that script | 15:43 |
| e0ne | dklyle: I'll test it soon :) | 15:43 |
| e0ne | it's some kind of task which we missed during the last release | 15:43 |
| dklyle | it posts info in the review that it was abandoned by script for being stale and gives the criteria | 15:43 |
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| dklyle | and instructions on how to make it active again | 15:44 |
| dklyle | it's very satisfying to run :) | 15:44 |
| amotoki | IIRC I clean up several numbers of stale patches which were apparently unnecessary manually at the beginning of Rocky cycle. | 15:44 |
| amotoki | There are two types of patches: new features and bug fixes. I tend to open bug fix reviews at that time. | 15:44 |
| amotoki | automatic cleanup would be nice | 15:45 |
| amotoki | but hopefully someone can take over bug fix patches. | 15:45 |
| e0ne | I'll do it today or tomorrow | 15:45 |
| e0ne | amotoki: I added some patches to my list to check if that bugs are still actual | 15:46 |
| amotoki | e0ne: nice :) | 15:46 |
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| e0ne | that's everything I've got for the meeting today | 15:47 |
| e0ne | we've got a bit more time to discuss anything else | 15:47 |
| e0ne | oh.. one more | 15:48 |
| e0ne | we'll skip a meeting next week | 15:48 |
| rdopiera | of course | 15:48 |
| e0ne | a lot of people will be at the PTG | 15:48 |
| e0ne | I'll send a note to the mailing list | 15:49 |
| rdopiera | I wonder if we could also update the egenda on the wiki every time the meeting is skipped | 15:49 |
| rdopiera | to say it's cancelled | 15:49 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: good point | 15:49 |
| e0ne | anything else to discuss today? | 15:50 |
| e0ne | seems that we've done | 15:51 |
| e0ne | thanks everybody who joined this meeting today! | 15:51 |
| e0ne | I hope to see all of you next week at the PTG | 15:51 |
| e0ne | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 5 15:51:54 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-09-05-15.02.html | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-09-05-15.02.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-09-05-15.02.log.html | 15:51 |
| amotoki | I added a message to the wiki page but we need a better highlighting of the message.... | 15:52 |
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| e0ne | amotoki: thank you! | 16:00 |
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