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| dkrol | #startmeeting trove | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 26 14:01:39 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkrol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 14:01 |
| dkrol | Hello | 14:01 |
| bzurkowski | Hello | 14:01 |
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| mpiwowarczy | hi | 14:02 |
| dkrol | let's wait a few more minutes for others | 14:02 |
| dkrol | mpiwowarczy: hi | 14:02 |
| dkrol | #topic roll call | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:03 | |
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| dkrol | so only three of us today ? :) | 14:06 |
| mpiwowarczy | still stable :) | 14:06 |
| bzurkowski | I think we can start | 14:06 |
| dkrol | great | 14:06 |
| dkrol | #topic Core team members | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Core team members (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:07 | |
| dkrol | bzurkowski: you added this topic to our discussion | 14:07 |
| bzurkowski | Yes | 14:07 |
| bzurkowski | I did the math and it turns out that we have only 4 active core members in this release | 14:08 |
| bzurkowski | Marcin is with us for a longer time a does great job reviewing changes and commiting new fixes | 14:08 |
| bzurkowski | I suggest adding him to the core team | 14:09 |
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| dkrol | hmm... but why do we need more core contributors ? | 14:09 |
| bzurkowski | Because we need to facilitate the progress in the project | 14:10 |
| bzurkowski | We have a lot of opened changes with many +1s or single +2s | 14:10 |
| dkrol | do you think our current progress (I mean pace of merging) is too low ? | 14:11 |
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| mpiwowarczy | from my side I offer my work on review work | 14:12 |
| bzurkowski | I have an impression that often a second core is missing that would approve the change | 14:12 |
| mpiwowarczy | if it is needed I can help as core member :) | 14:12 |
| dkrol | I get it | 14:13 |
| dkrol | so we can vote but there are only two of us right now ? | 14:13 |
| dkrol | it's not a lot :) | 14:13 |
| mpiwowarczy | but I do not vote for nothing as it is about me :) | 14:14 |
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| dkrol | it seems we don't have quorum of core contributors right now | 14:15 |
| dkrol | otherwise I agree with you, Marcin should be recognized as a core contributor | 14:15 |
| bzurkowski | dkrol: You are right, but this is what we had for several past meetings... | 14:16 |
| bzurkowski | I'm voting in favor of adding Marcin to the core team | 14:16 |
| dkrol | shouldn't we try to contact them first ? | 14:17 |
| dkrol | at least try to | 14:17 |
| mpiwowarczy | can we do that on mailing list or somewhere? | 14:18 |
| dkrol | we can get emails from gerrit and send them an invitation | 14:19 |
| dkrol | and do the voting next week | 14:19 |
| bzurkowski | dkrol: Yes, let's ask others about their opinion | 14:19 |
| dkrol | will it be ok for you ? | 14:19 |
| bzurkowski | dkrol: Sure | 14:20 |
| dkrol | ok, thank you for understanding | 14:20 |
| dkrol | #topic Recent changes and reviews | 14:21 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Recent changes and reviews (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:21 | |
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| dkrol | lets move to recent changes | 14:21 |
| dkrol | from my side ... | 14:21 |
| dkrol | I saw several python3-first changes | 14:22 |
| dkrol | and I sent an email to stable branches mainteners | 14:22 |
| dkrol | and I was asked a question: "is python3 support going to be backported to stable branches?" | 14:22 |
| dkrol | and this seems to be a very good question | 14:23 |
| dkrol | my first impression after reading https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html | 14:23 |
| dkrol | #link https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html | 14:23 |
| mpiwowarczy | how it is in other projects? | 14:24 |
| dkrol | was that python3 should not be backported to stable branches | 14:24 |
| dkrol | I didn't check it | 14:24 |
| dkrol | but we should have our own opinion as well | 14:24 |
| dkrol | before taking a look at other projects | 14:25 |
| dkrol | what is your opinion ? | 14:26 |
| mpiwowarczy | definitely you are right | 14:26 |
| mpiwowarczy | but AIK only important changes are backported to stable branches | 14:27 |
| mpiwowarczy | moreover python3-fists doeasnt have any functional changes, hence, what is a reason to backort them? | 14:28 |
| mpiwowarczy | if anybody want to use trove trove in new python, will also use latest Trove version | 14:29 |
| bzurkowski | I'm wondering why they are pushing python3-first changes so deep, up to ocata stable branch | 14:29 |
| dkrol | I would think so too | 14:29 |
| dkrol | maybe we could ask goal champions about it ? :) | 14:30 |
| bzurkowski | Ocata and some subsequent branches will be dropped until Python 3 comes | 14:30 |
| bzurkowski | The thing is that this is not happening by mistake, but defined explicitely in goal tools | 14:30 |
| bzurkowski | #link https://github.com/openstack/goal-tools/blob/4125c31e74776a7dc6a15d2276ab51ff3e73cd16/goal_tools/python3_first/jobs.py#L54 | 14:30 |
| bzurkowski | dkrol: We should ask goal champions as you suggest | 14:30 |
| dkrol | #action ask python3-first goal champions about supporting stable branches | 14:31 |
| dkrol | ok | 14:32 |
| mpiwowarczy | keep in mind, there is a lot of changes in python3-firsts tasks | 14:32 |
| dkrol | besides this - do you have anything elso ? | 14:32 |
| dkrol | else about recent changes ? | 14:32 |
| mpiwowarczy | it is always a little risky to pull these changes to stable releases | 14:32 |
| bzurkowski | dkrol: Nothing more from my side | 14:33 |
| mpiwowarczy | im working on moving functional tests to python3 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604816/ | 14:33 |
| mpiwowarczy | but it is still in progress | 14:33 |
| mpiwowarczy | want to use tox and wrap trovestack script in virtualenv to execute int_tests | 14:34 |
| mpiwowarczy | that is all from my side | 14:34 |
| dkrol | ok | 14:34 |
| dkrol | from my side - I'm working on trovestack redesign but I didn't push anything yet | 14:34 |
| dkrol | I think in the following week there will be something to report :) | 14:35 |
| dkrol | #topic Trovestack redesign | 14:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Trovestack redesign (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:35 | |
| dkrol | we can change a topic now | 14:36 |
| bzurkowski | One moment | 14:36 |
| dkrol | so basically I was working on extracting minimal code to build mysql image | 14:36 |
| bzurkowski | OK, continue | 14:36 |
| dkrol | ok | 14:37 |
| bzurkowski | I thought you were gonna skip trovestack redesign topic | 14:37 |
| dkrol | it turned out trovestack is a bigger monolith I was thinking | 14:37 |
| dkrol | it is not trivial to extract anything from it | 14:38 |
| dkrol | there is a mix of functions in trovestack, functions and functions_qemu files | 14:38 |
| dkrol | and they are tightly coupled :) | 14:39 |
| dkrol | I'm at the moment where I have a seperate script for building minimal ubuntu mysql image which passes trovestack tests | 14:40 |
| dkrol | I need to do some working on refactoring and verification but it should be ready for review in the follwoing week | 14:41 |
| dkrol | how about you ? do you have anything on this topic ? | 14:41 |
| bzurkowski | So finally you wrote image building script from scratch, right? | 14:42 |
| bzurkowski | Based on existing code in trovestack | 14:42 |
| dkrol | yes | 14:42 |
| dkrol | and also trove registration script | 14:43 |
| dkrol | once the image is built it has to be registered | 14:43 |
| dkrol | ok, lets move on to the next topic | 14:44 |
| dkrol | since we are running out of time | 14:44 |
| dkrol | #topic Python 3 first support | 14:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Python 3 first support (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:45 | |
| dkrol | mpiwowarczy: do you have any update about it ? | 14:45 |
| mpiwowarczy | nothing more than functional test | 14:46 |
| mpiwowarczy | we are still unable to update any point from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-python-3 | 14:46 |
| dkrol | :( | 14:46 |
| dkrol | ok | 14:47 |
| dkrol | lets move to the last topic | 14:47 |
| mpiwowarczy | dont worry, work goes forward :) | 14:47 |
| dkrol | #topic Building the community | 14:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Building the community (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:47 | |
| dkrol | bzurkowski: :) | 14:47 |
| bzurkowski | dkrol: :) | 14:47 |
| bzurkowski | I added this topic to talk about condition of Trove community | 14:48 |
| dkrol | bzurkowski: the floor is yours | 14:48 |
| bzurkowski | We all want to achieve great goals in this project by introducing advanced features and improvements | 14:49 |
| dkrol | +1 | 14:50 |
| bzurkowski | However, we cannot make progress without the right number of people involved in the project | 14:50 |
| bzurkowski | I looked at previous meetings from several years ago | 14:51 |
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| bzurkowski | There were 20 people instead of three during each weekly meeting | 14:52 |
| bzurkowski | There were special meetings for discussing only blueprints | 14:52 |
| bzurkowski | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveBPMeeting | 14:52 |
| mpiwowarczy | maybe we sould consider add something like "quick start" to documentation | 14:53 |
| bzurkowski | Let's collect ideas about how we could put life back into the project | 14:53 |
| mpiwowarczy | it will make it easier start working with Trove | 14:53 |
| dkrol | bzurkowski: do you have anything specific on mind ? or do you want to start brainstorming about it ? | 14:54 |
| mpiwowarczy | for now it isnt easy for newbies bring up trove with instances | 14:54 |
| bzurkowski | The meeting is almost over so I suggest creating a pad for ideas | 14:54 |
| bzurkowski | We could review it in the next week | 14:54 |
| bzurkowski | dkrol: Rather start brainstorming | 14:55 |
| dkrol | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-revitalization | 14:55 |
| bzurkowski | Marcin's idea is a good start | 14:55 |
| dkrol | how about it ? :) | 14:55 |
| bzurkowski | dkrol: Thanks :) | 14:56 |
| dkrol | ok, so let's have this discussion next week | 14:56 |
| dkrol | thanks for coming today | 14:56 |
| mpiwowarczy | bye | 14:57 |
| dkrol | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:57 | |
| bzurkowski | Thank you, bye | 14:57 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 26 14:57:18 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-09-26-14.01.html | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-09-26-14.01.txt | 14:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-09-26-14.01.log.html | 14:57 |
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| e0ne | #startmeeting horizon | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 26 15:00:38 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 15:00 |
| e0ne | hi team | 15:00 |
| e0ne | is anybody around for Horizon meeting? | 15:01 |
| rdopiera | o/ | 15:04 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: hi | 15:04 |
| rdopiera | are were the only two here? | 15:04 |
| e0ne | looks like we are :( | 15:04 |
| e0ne | it means, we'll have short meeting | 15:04 |
| e0ne | #topic Notices | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:05 | |
| e0ne | we've fixed or gates:( | 15:05 |
| e0ne | horizon was affected with new XStatic-jQuery release | 15:05 |
| e0ne | I had to cap the max version in the global requirements | 15:06 |
| e0ne | will do the same for stable branches | 15:06 |
| rdopiera | I'm really sorry for not passing the message on, I was convinced we can handle newer versions | 15:06 |
| rdopiera | I should have checked | 15:06 |
| e0ne | I want to finish this patch | 15:07 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604613/ | 15:07 |
| e0ne | to prevent such issues in the future | 15:07 |
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| e0ne | in a long-term perspective, it would be good to have the latest js libs in horizon | 15:07 |
| rdopiera | they change so fast | 15:08 |
| e0ne | +1 | 15:08 |
| e0ne | at lease, it would be good to have supported libs in our dependencies | 15:09 |
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| e0ne | *at least | 15:09 |
| e0ne | #topic PTG | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:11 | |
| e0ne | I'll send a recap later this week | 15:11 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: you can find our notes in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-ptg-planning-denver-2018 | 15:12 |
| e0ne | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-ptg-planning-denver-2018 | 15:12 |
| e0ne | it was a productive week | 15:12 |
| e0ne | even with a small amount of people in Denver | 15:12 |
| e0ne | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 15:12 |
| rdopiera | a small team moves faster ;-) | 15:12 |
| e0ne | I've updated our meeting agenda due to the PTG discussion and priorities for the Stein release | 15:13 |
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| e0ne | rdopiera: if they have good capacity | 15:13 |
| e0ne | that's all updates from my side | 15:14 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: do you want to go throw the rest of topics? | 15:14 |
| rdopiera | throws? | 15:15 |
| e0ne | *through | 15:15 |
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| rdopiera | I'm not sure I will be useful with the discussion | 15:16 |
| e0ne | :( | 15:16 |
| rdopiera | let's wait for a meeting with more participants | 15:16 |
| e0ne | I thinks, it makes a sense to try re-schedule the meeting to get more people here | 15:16 |
| e0ne | #topic Open Discussion | 15:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:17 | |
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| e0ne | rdopiera: +1 | 15:17 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: thanks for joining me | 15:17 |
| rdopiera | I'm not sure it's the timing that makes people not come | 15:17 |
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| e0ne | +1 | 15:18 |
| e0ne | but we can try | 15:18 |
| rdopiera | by the way, I wanted to ask about one thing | 15:18 |
| e0ne | sure | 15:18 |
| rdopiera | we have this REST_API_REQUIRED_SETTINGS | 15:18 |
| rdopiera | in the local_settings | 15:18 |
| rdopiera | shouldn't it go to settings.py instead? | 15:18 |
| rdopiera | is there any use case where users would like to change it? | 15:19 |
| rdopiera | it feels to me like it's an implementation internal detail, not really a setting | 15:20 |
| e0ne | sounds reasonable | 15:20 |
| rdopiera | I will make a patch then | 15:21 |
| e0ne | we need to be careful with this setting. it could lead to some security issues | 15:21 |
| rdopiera | all the more reason to move it | 15:22 |
| e0ne | [ | 15:25 |
| e0ne | 'LAUNCH_INSTANCE_DEFAULTS', | 15:25 |
| e0ne | 'OPENSTACK_IMAGE_FORMATS', | 15:25 |
| e0ne | 'OPENSTACK_KEYSTONE_DEFAULT_DOMAIN', | 15:25 |
| e0ne | 'CREATE_IMAGE_DEFAULTS', | 15:25 |
| e0ne | ] | 15:25 |
| e0ne | IMO, ^^ it's ok to add these settings to default value | 15:26 |
| rdopiera | what about the rest? | 15:27 |
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| e0ne | I need to take a look on them more close | 15:28 |
| e0ne | I don't have their values in the mind | 15:29 |
| rdopiera | the thing is, without them the angular views won't work | 15:29 |
| e0ne | I understand this | 15:29 |
| rdopiera | we recently had a bug where we didn't update that setting in our configuration templates, that's why I suggest to move it | 15:29 |
| e0ne | that's why I agree with this idea | 15:29 |
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| e0ne | for such things I would like to get more feedback in the review | 15:32 |
| rdopiera | will do | 15:33 |
| rdopiera | perhaps we will end up moving that to individual view/panel definitions | 15:33 |
| e0ne | I loke this idea | 15:33 |
| e0ne | *like | 15:34 |
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| e0ne | do you have anything more to discuss? | 15:35 |
| rdopiera | nothing | 15:35 |
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| e0ne | ok, let's wrap up the meeting for today | 15:35 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: thanks for joining me! | 15:36 |
| rdopiera | thank you | 15:36 |
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| e0ne | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 26 15:42:39 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-09-26-15.00.html | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-09-26-15.00.txt | 15:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-09-26-15.00.log.html | 15:42 |
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