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| tbarron | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 27 15:00:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 15:00 |
| tbarron | ping ganso | 15:00 |
| dustins | \o | 15:00 |
| xyang | hi | 15:00 |
| tbarron | ping erlon | 15:00 |
| ganso | hello | 15:00 |
| tbarron | ping gouthamr | 15:01 |
| tbarron | ping tpsilva | 15:01 |
| tbarron | ping zhongjun2_ | 15:01 |
| tbarron | vkmc is on PTO | 15:01 |
| zhongjun2_ | Hi | 15:01 |
| tbarron | amito is just returning from PTO and is driving atm | 15:01 |
| tbarron | That's all on my ping list. | 15:01 |
| tbarron | Hi all! | 15:01 |
| tbarron | Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:02 |
| tbarron | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
| tbarron | Forum Submission deadline was yesterday. | 15:02 |
| tbarron | I used our brainstorm etherpad as the basis of a submisision more or less along | 15:03 |
| tbarron | the lines of last time: get operator feedback on what we're doing and | 15:03 |
| tbarron | on what is needed. | 15:03 |
| tbarron | Last time they gave us good feedback and we learned of use of manila in new places, e.g. | 15:04 |
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| tbarron | Square Kilometre Array and Minnesota supercomputing Center | 15:04 |
| tbarron | You can see all the submissions here: | 15:05 |
| tbarron | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/vote-for-speakers | 15:05 |
| tbarron | Despite the name in the link, there is no vote; they're just reusing the web interface to collect the submissions | 15:05 |
| tbarron | Selection is by 9 October. | 15:06 |
| tbarron | Next: there has been a recent discussion of T-series goals, with a lot of support for | 15:06 |
| tbarron | requiring projects to have OpenStack client support | 15:06 |
| tbarron | manila was called out specifically | 15:07 |
| tbarron | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/135107.html | 15:07 |
| tbarron | I was happy to be able to respond that this is something operators asked for in the last forum and | 15:07 |
| tbarron | that we have it as a Stein cycle goal. | 15:07 |
| tbarron | Any other announcements? | 15:08 |
| tbarron | ok | 15:08 |
| tbarron | #topic MidCycle and Bug Swat days. | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "MidCycle and Bug Swat days. (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:09 | |
| tbarron | Last meeting we agreed to think about having a virtual 1-day midcycle. | 15:09 |
| tbarron | Does that still seem like a good idea? | 15:09 |
| bswartz | Back to the old ways | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | When would we aim to do it? | 15:10 |
| tbarron | Yeah, that's the next question. | 15:10 |
| bswartz | It think having a higher-bandwidth get together is a good idea | 15:10 |
| tbarron | Here's the Stein cycle calendar: | 15:10 |
| bswartz | Whether it should be 1 or 2 days depends on how much we have to discuss | 15:10 |
| tbarron | #link https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html | 15:10 |
| bswartz | No longer than 2 days though | 15:10 |
| tbarron | We could allocate two days and try to do it all in one. | 15:11 |
| ganso | 1.5 days is not bad either | 15:11 |
| tbarron | mid January right after Stein2 milestone? | 15:12 |
| ganso | tbarron: +1 | 15:12 |
| tbarron | That's after the end-of-year holidays and before Chinese New Year. | 15:12 |
| zhongjun2_ | +1 | 15:13 |
| tbarron | Wednesday and Thursday 16-17 January? | 15:13 |
| bswartz | That's not bad | 15:13 |
| tbarron | Sounds like we have some level of agreement. I will send email to the dev list indicating that decision with a note that if there are objections or counter-proposals to please respond. | 15:15 |
| tbarron | Given that not everyone who may be interested is able to attend this meeting on IRC let's also email for such decisions. | 15:16 |
| tbarron | zhongjun2_: do you know if there is a bug swat in China this year, and when? | 15:16 |
| zhongjun2_ | Not sure now | 15:17 |
| bswartz | Are we calling them bug swats now? | 15:17 |
| bswartz | What happened to bug smashes and bug squashes? | 15:17 |
| zhongjun2_ | Bug smash | 15:17 |
| tbarron | #action tbarron will write 'bug smash' on the blackboard 100 times | 15:17 |
| zhongjun2_ | ;) | 15:18 |
| ganso | lol | 15:18 |
| tbarron | We are thinking of also having a (virtual) Americas-time-zone bug smash | 15:18 |
| tbarron | Would we want to do this around RC1? | 15:19 |
| tbarron | That's 21 march I think. | 15:19 |
| bswartz | Yeah as long as it's after feature freeze | 15:19 |
| bswartz | The week or 2 after feature freeze are the best times | 15:19 |
| tbarron | Feature Freeze i s7 March. | 15:20 |
| tbarron | When are Easter and Passover? | 15:20 |
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| tbarron | not till mid-april | 15:20 |
| dustins | tbarron: Easter is April 21 | 15:21 |
| dustins | and Passover is April 19-27 | 15:22 |
| tbarron | if it's ok then I'll include in that email a proposal for a couple of days of bug smash -- say march 13-14 | 15:22 |
| tbarron | dustins: you're our bug czar, do those dates work for you? | 15:22 |
| dustins | Yup! Fine by me | 15:22 |
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| tbarron | OK, moving along unless anyone else has more on this topic ... | 15:23 |
| tbarron | #topic Planning Our Work | 15:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Planning Our Work (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:23 | |
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| tbarron | We came up with enough work at PTG to keep us going for a while :) | 15:24 |
| tbarron | Not all will get done this cycle I bet but | 15:24 |
| tbarron | we agreed to begin it, to have leaders for work items, and to track the work better than | 15:24 |
| tbarron | I at least | 15:24 |
| tbarron | was doing previously. | 15:24 |
| tbarron | So to that end, I've started to track the work on our wiki | 15:25 |
| tbarron | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/SteinCycle | 15:25 |
| tbarron | It's top down and there's lots to be filled in. | 15:25 |
| tbarron | At the bottom, under References, is a link to the etherpad from last week where we distilled from the PTG. | 15:26 |
| tbarron | That etherpad in turn points back to the raw PTG etherpad. | 15:26 |
| tbarron | Please look over the wiki and make sure your pet projects are there :) | 15:26 |
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| tbarron | Look for your nick as a Leader or Owner :) | 15:27 |
| tbarron | I'll be working with Leaders/Owners to fill out the tasks, reviews, etc. | 15:27 |
| tbarron | The idea is that leaders/owners will keep their own sections up to date. | 15:28 |
| tbarron | Clearly there's still a lot to fill in. | 15:28 |
| tbarron | questions? comments? | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | Is this wiki format new? | 15:28 |
| tbarron | yes, and I'm open to suggestions as to better ways to do it | 15:29 |
| bswartz | I actually like it | 15:29 |
| bswartz | Is the goal to not rely on blueprints, or does this augment the blueprint system? | 15:29 |
| tbarron | It would augment the blueprints. | 15:29 |
| bswartz | Also presumably we have this because storyboard doesn't meet our needs | 15:30 |
| tbarron | blueprints per se will go away when we migrate to storyboard | 15:30 |
| bswartz | s/when/if/ | 15:30 |
| bswartz | >_< | 15:30 |
| tbarron | storyboard may well meet our needs but we haven't built what we need on it yet | 15:30 |
| tbarron | jungleboyj and I agreed to try to do that together in this cycle | 15:31 |
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| tbarron | before we cut over | 15:31 |
| tbarron | maybe this wiki will go away but I think we'll want to track info of this sort in storyboard then | 15:31 |
| bswartz | Yeah it's good to have a centralized place | 15:31 |
| bswartz | +1 | 15:31 |
| tbarron | We need clear leaders/owners for "stories" and to have them drive the definition and tracking of their own work | 15:32 |
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| tbarron | You all need to hold me accountable for ensuring that we do that. | 15:32 |
| tbarron | Anything else on this topic today? | 15:33 |
| tbarron | OK, | 15:33 |
| tbarron | #topic Let's talk about bugs. | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Let's talk about bugs. (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:33 | |
| tbarron | dustins: I put a triage page in the Work Plan wiki | 15:34 |
| tbarron | dustins: right now it points to the etherpad | 15:34 |
| tbarron | dustins: up to you how to track | 15:34 |
| tbarron | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/SteinCycle#Bug_Triage | 15:34 |
| dustins | tbarron: Okay, awesome, I'll have a look at it | 15:35 |
| dustins | And add to it | 15:35 |
| dustins | Anyway, onto the bugs | 15:36 |
| dustins | #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1791103 | 15:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1791103 in Manila "NeutronBindNetworkPlugin disappeared after docs migration" [Undecided,New] | 15:36 |
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| dustins | ganso: You reported this, what exactly was going on with this one? | 15:38 |
| bswartz | So only the docs are gone, not the code? | 15:38 |
| ganso | dustins: so there was a doc migration effort in Pike release | 15:39 |
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| ganso | dustins: and after docs were migrated, the section for NeutronBindNetworkPlugin disappeared | 15:39 |
| tbarron | ganso asked me why I dropped those dods and I said "my bad, not intended" | 15:40 |
| ganso | I checked the commits, and the commit that added the pike pages did not contain any reference to NeutronBindNetworkPlugin | 15:40 |
| dustins | ganso: Ahh, so we just have to add them back | 15:40 |
| bswartz | Fixed the title | 15:40 |
| tbarron | bswartz: ty | 15:40 |
| ganso | dustins: yea, but I'd say it raises a flag that more things could have gone missing after the migration | 15:41 |
| ganso | bswartz: ty | 15:41 |
| dustins | ganso: Yeah, we'll have to have a look at the old docs and the new ones and make sure everything's where we expect it to be | 15:41 |
| tbarron | I marked the bug confirmed, do we have an ownwer? | 15:41 |
| tbarron | for the specific task in *this* bug | 15:42 |
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| tbarron | cmon folks, this is just restoring a file and updating the corresponing index.html | 15:43 |
| dustins | tbarron: I can have a look, but I don't think it'll be immediately | 15:43 |
| tbarron | I didn't see anyone say it has to be fixed immediately. | 15:43 |
| tbarron | I marked it low priority. | 15:44 |
| dustins | tbarron: Just assigned myself, I'll have a look soon | 15:44 |
| tbarron | If someone disagrees, bump the priority, take ownership, and take 15 minutes to do it. | 15:44 |
| dustins | Agreed | 15:44 |
| dustins | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1742430 | 15:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1742430 in Manila "manila_tempest_test create_share fails because a share type not create or define in advance" [Undecided,New] | 15:45 |
| tbarron | dustins: it says the problem is solved | 15:46 |
| bswartz | The fix here is to make the test create its own share type | 15:46 |
| bswartz | Rather than relying on something to preexist | 15:46 |
| tbarron | and that's what vkmc's fixes did | 15:47 |
| ganso | tbarron: hmmm so that bug should already be fixed? | 15:47 |
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| tbarron | yes and that's what the last comment in the bug says | 15:47 |
| bswartz | It's pretty old | 15:47 |
| bswartz | Probably safe to close | 15:47 |
| tbarron | _+1 | 15:48 |
| dustins | works for me | 15:48 |
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| dustins | #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1790470 | 15:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1790470 in Manila "run_tests.sh fails with invalid command testr" [Undecided,New] | 15:49 |
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| dustins | So, I thought that run_tests.sh had been deprecated | 15:49 |
| bswartz | Me too | 15:50 |
| tbarron | but we never removed it | 15:50 |
| bswartz | It should be either removed or fixed though | 15:50 |
| tbarron | cause some people wanted to run it anyways b/c it | 15:50 |
| bswartz | It might be easy to just fix it | 15:50 |
| bswartz | What is the replacement? | 15:50 |
| tbarron | is faster b/c it doesn't do all the checks that tox does | 15:50 |
| tbarron | replacement is tox | 15:51 |
| bswartz | Well if run_tests.sh can easily be changed to invoke tox, then maybe that's the fix | 15:51 |
| bswartz | If that's a bad idea, then just remove it | 15:51 |
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| tbarron | then it will run as slowly as tox :) | 15:51 |
| tbarron | is there anyone here who still uses run_tests.sh? | 15:52 |
| * bswartz bids a fond farewell to run_tests.sh | 15:52 | |
| dustins | I use "tempest run" | 15:52 |
| tbarron | dustins: we're talking about unit tests, pep8, coverage, docs generation, etc. | 15:52 |
| tbarron | and some of that is out of scope for run_tests but in scope for tox | 15:53 |
| dustins | Whoops, then in that regard I use tox | 15:53 |
| tbarron | if no one objects, I will suggest to the reporter that we are goiing to remove run_tests.sh b/c it is no longer supported. | 15:53 |
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| bswartz | I commented in the bug | 15:54 |
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| tbarron | And that if he wants to fix it and maintian it he's welcome to do so. | 15:54 |
| tbarron | bswartz: ty! | 15:54 |
| dustins | Sounds good to me! | 15:54 |
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| dustins | #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1786059 | 15:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1786059 in Manila "Cannot Connect to Share Server when Creating Share with Generic Driver (DHSS=True)" [Undecided,New] | 15:54 |
| tbarron | so ganso responded to the reporter over a month ago | 15:55 |
| tbarron | indicating that we can't repro and that | 15:56 |
| tbarron | the issue doesn't occur in our CI | 15:56 |
| tbarron | Suggested he compare his env with our CI. | 15:56 |
| tbarron | Anyone not OK with a Closed/Invalid? Seems like an environmental issue rather than a manila issue. | 15:57 |
| dustins | Fine by me | 15:57 |
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| tbarron | k, I'm doing it | 15:58 |
| tbarron | we're out of time | 15:59 |
| tbarron | Thanks Dustin. | 15:59 |
| dustins | Anytime! | 15:59 |
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| tbarron | And thanks everyone! Please look at the work plan ... | 15:59 |
| tbarron | See you in #openstack-manila! | 15:59 |
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| tbarron | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 27 15:59:54 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-09-27-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-09-27-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2018/manila.2018-09-27-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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