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| alexchadin | #startmeeting watcher | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 10 08:00:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 08:00 |
| alexchadin | o/ | 08:01 |
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| alexchadin | #endmeeting | 08:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 10 08:15:18 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2018/watcher.2018-10-10-08.00.html | 08:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2018/watcher.2018-10-10-08.00.txt | 08:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2018/watcher.2018-10-10-08.00.log.html | 08:15 |
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| dkrol | #startmeeting trove | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 10 14:00:33 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkrol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 14:00 |
| dkrol | Hello All Trove developers :) | 14:00 |
| pgodek | Hi Dariusz | 14:01 |
| cezary_zukowski | hi guys | 14:02 |
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| dkrol | we should wait a few more minutes for the rest | 14:04 |
| fanzhang | hi | 14:04 |
| dkrol | fanzhang: hello | 14:04 |
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| bzurkowski | Hello, hello | 14:05 |
| fanzhang | Did you get me email reply | 14:05 |
| fanzhang | Hey bzurkowski | 14:06 |
| dkrol | fanzhang: no, I did not receive anything | 14:06 |
| fanzhang | Reply to your weekly meeting invitation at 2nd Oct. | 14:07 |
| dkrol | this one I received :) | 14:07 |
| fanzhang | Oh good. | 14:08 |
| dkrol | unfortunately no one else responded | 14:08 |
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| rdopiera | o/ | 14:08 |
| rdopiera | sorry, wrong meeting :) | 14:09 |
| dkrol | rdopiera: no problem :) | 14:09 |
| dkrol | I think we can start | 14:11 |
| dkrol | #topic Recent changes and reviews | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Recent changes and reviews (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:11 | |
| dkrol | did you have time to work on any new reviews or changes ? | 14:11 |
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| bzurkowski | This week I added two minor changes | 14:13 |
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| bzurkowski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608640/ | 14:13 |
| bzurkowski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608653/ | 14:13 |
| cezary_zukowski | in fact, I started (today) working on documentation (/trove/doc/source/admin/building_guest_images.rst) and editing, rephrasing, making language more academic and augmenting with examples - from perspective of a newcomer, will commit asap | 14:13 |
| fanzhang | Cool, I can help review that, but TBH, I am not familiar with devstack plugin | 14:14 |
| bzurkowski | cezary_zukowski: This is great, this is what we need to attract new users and developers | 14:14 |
| cezary_zukowski | bzurkowski: thanks, and I really want to find time to review your changes :) btw. Zuul is an automate to test the changes? | 14:15 |
| dkrol | bzurkowski: is your change only related to vitrage ? | 14:16 |
| dkrol | cezary_zukowski: great, please share it once it is ready and we can review it | 14:16 |
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| bzurkowski | dkrol: Yes, I need it for my Vitrage PoC to fetch all instances into Entity Graph | 14:17 |
| fanzhang | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608640/ | 14:17 |
| dkrol | but as bzurkowski said - it is very important to work on changes that can attract more users | 14:17 |
| bzurkowski | However it might by useful for future integrations with other services | 14:17 |
| fanzhang | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608653/ | 14:17 |
| dkrol | ok, great - I saw Marcin already added a few comments | 14:18 |
| bzurkowski | I am trying to build Entity Graph with Trove instances and clusters, connected to VMs, storage and neutron ports; and then conduct Trove-oriented RCA | 14:19 |
| dkrol | I see | 14:20 |
| dkrol | I suppose we can move to our next topic | 14:21 |
| cezary_zukowski | RCA - root cause analysis? What are main difficulties there? | 14:21 |
| cezary_zukowski | ok | 14:21 |
| dkrol | #topic Trovestack redesign | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Trovestack redesign (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:22 | |
| bzurkowski | cezary_zukowski: We can continue discussion about RCA after the meeting ;) | 14:22 |
| dkrol | I'm still working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608653/ | 14:22 |
| cezary_zukowski | bzurkowski: sure, time's up | 14:22 |
| dkrol | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608653/ | 14:23 |
| dkrol | there are some difficulties with stack user on the machine as I moved trove guest image build to devstack plugin | 14:23 |
| cezary_zukowski | correct link? | 14:23 |
| dkrol | I still need to debug it but it seems to be related to openstack infra and permissions | 14:23 |
| bzurkowski | dkrol: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/606960/ | 14:24 |
| fanzhang | lol correct link ^ | 14:24 |
| dkrol | yes :) | 14:24 |
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| dkrol | too many tabs opened :) | 14:24 |
| dkrol | anyway, this task still requires additional work | 14:25 |
| cezary_zukowski | fingers crossed | 14:26 |
| dkrol | I hope I will have better news next time | 14:26 |
| dkrol | next topic should be about python3-first support but Marcin Piwowarczyk is absent so we can skip it | 14:27 |
| dkrol | #topic Building the community | 14:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Building the community (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:27 | |
| dkrol | bzurkowski: do you want to comment on this ? | 14:27 |
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| dkrol | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-revitalization | 14:27 |
| cezary_zukowski | btw. is distributing guest images a part of "Trove redisign"? it could attract more people (as Docker images) | 14:28 |
| bzurkowski | cezary_zukowski: It is already included in Trove revitalization pad | 14:28 |
| dkrol | cezary_zukowski: the idea is to build images automatically during devstack instalation | 14:28 |
| cezary_zukowski | okay, but all this happens at the local installation? no public image repositor online? | 14:29 |
| dkrol | no public images repo | 14:29 |
| bzurkowski | Looking at our ideas in the pad there are several actions that we could undertake as the first step | 14:30 |
| cezary_zukowski | dkrol: okay, just curious | 14:30 |
| bzurkowski | 1. Write emails to each contributor that participated in reviews or development in Rocky and Stein releases | 14:30 |
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| bzurkowski | 2. Write email to OpenStack "community support" asking about the guideline | 14:31 |
| bzurkowski | e.g. Kendall Nelson (Upstream Developer Advocate) and Ildiko Vancsa (Ecosystem Technical Lead) | 14:31 |
| bzurkowski | 3. Add mailing list to inform interested people about the roadmap, progress and issues | 14:32 |
| bzurkowski | What do you think? | 14:32 |
| cezary_zukowski | good points, growing the network always counts | 14:32 |
| bzurkowski | These actions shouldn't take much effort | 14:33 |
| dkrol | yes, they look good to me | 14:33 |
| pgodek | so no reason for asking - just do it | 14:33 |
| cezary_zukowski | 4. make #openstack-trove not as silent as now :) | 14:33 |
| dkrol | we can get email addresses from stackanalytics | 14:34 |
| dkrol | so 1. is oriented towards previous users/developers | 14:34 |
| dkrol | 2. and 3. is about new users | 14:34 |
| fanzhang | About feature matrix, my experience is that we only have MySQL in production, redis and mongodb is stable but simple. I am not sure how we define experimental nowadays. | 14:35 |
| dkrol | but I'm wondering how can we get direct access to existing users | 14:35 |
| bzurkowski | Datastore maturity was defined years ago: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/trove-specs/specs/kilo/experimental-datastores.html | 14:36 |
| fanzhang | Email is the only way I guess, maybe some social networking apps | 14:36 |
| dkrol | fanzhang: reviewing datastore support status was an action point for Rocky release | 14:36 |
| dkrol | it was not touch due to lack of resources I suppose | 14:36 |
| dkrol | it is something in the update documentation task as well | 14:38 |
| bzurkowski | cezary_zukowski: Since you started updating docs maybe it would be a good idea to look at current state of datastore capability matrix? | 14:38 |
| pgodek | we can bring casandra to next level with not big effort but the question is " is it our goal for now " ? | 14:39 |
| dkrol | I would like also to emphasize that ongoing development and stable number of pushed and merged changes should be one of our priorities | 14:39 |
| cezary_zukowski | bzurkowski: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove/DatastoreCompatibilityMatrix | 14:40 |
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| bzurkowski | cezary_zukowski: Yes, this one | 14:40 |
| dkrol | pgodek: I think we have other more important priorities and we don't have enough men power :/ | 14:40 |
| pgodek | @dkrol this is alos my impression | 14:41 |
| bzurkowski | Maybe we should we put the matrix into better accessible place to show that Trove is versatile and powerful tool | 14:41 |
| dkrol | bzurkowski: Let's do it. | 14:41 |
| dkrol | I have just impression that if we will not show stable development Trove will be visible as a dead project | 14:42 |
| fanzhang | Good point | 14:43 |
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| fanzhang | Working on docs maybe a fresh start. | 14:43 |
| cezary_zukowski | bzurkowski: I will have a closer look at the document and whether it's up-to-date | 14:43 |
| bzurkowski | We also have one talk about Trove at OpenStack Summit in Berlin | 14:44 |
| bzurkowski | That could help advertise the project | 14:44 |
| dkrol | having documentation updated is very important for new people | 14:44 |
| bzurkowski | I mean, the talk + project update | 14:44 |
| fanzhang | Is there any etherpad notes about the discussion? bzurkowski | 14:45 |
| dkrol | bzurkowski: yes, this will give us audience but it would be great to have some progress to show in terms of merged changes | 14:45 |
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| bzurkowski | dkrol: Right, we must prepare something concrete | 14:46 |
| bzurkowski | fanzhang: What discussion? | 14:46 |
| dkrol | it is great we have the same point of view :) now we should just deliver | 14:46 |
| fanzhang | I thought you mean you guys have had a talk at the past summit | 14:47 |
| fanzhang | :) | 14:48 |
| pgodek | we will have thalk in berlin ( next month ) | 14:48 |
| pgodek | https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/events/22273/towards-production-grade-database-as-a-service-in-openstack | 14:48 |
| bzurkowski | fanzhang: I meant, we are presenting the talk at the conference in Berlin, mid-November | 14:48 |
| fanzhang | Yeah I see. Don’t realize summit in Berlin is the coming one. :( | 14:49 |
| dkrol | fanzhang: I suppose you are not coming to Berlin then ? :) | 14:52 |
| fanzhang | No I will not go to Berlin. | 14:52 |
| dkrol | ok, do we have any other open discussion topics ? | 14:53 |
| fanzhang | No more from my side. Thanks for all of you taking over trove and trying to make it great again. | 14:54 |
| pgodek | No more from me either | 14:55 |
| dkrol | fanzhang: thanks, I hope you will be still around | 14:55 |
| bzurkowski | No more from my side | 14:55 |
| dkrol | I suppose we can finish our meeting for today | 14:55 |
| fanzhang | Try my best. Thanks | 14:55 |
| cezary_zukowski | many thanks all :) | 14:55 |
| bzurkowski | Thank you all for great meeting :) | 14:56 |
| dkrol | see you all next time | 14:56 |
| dkrol | #endmeeting | 14:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 10 14:56:19 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-10-10-14.00.html | 14:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-10-10-14.00.txt | 14:56 |
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| e0ne | #startmeeting horizon | 15:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 10 15:06:37 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 15:06 |
| e0ne | hi everybody | 15:06 |
| e0ne | I'm sorry for the delay | 15:06 |
| e0ne | is anybody here for horizon meeting? | 15:06 |
| rdopiera | hey | 15:07 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: hi | 15:07 |
| e0ne | let's wait few minutes more until people join us | 15:08 |
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| e0ne | rdopiera: looks like nobody joins us today :( | 15:14 |
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| rdopiera | yeah | 15:14 |
| e0ne | let's quickly go over our agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 15:14 |
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| e0ne | I don't have any updates, so we'll skip this item | 15:15 |
| e0ne | #topic Action items from the previous meeting | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from the previous meeting (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:15 | |
| e0ne | unfortunately, I missed this :( | 15:15 |
| e0ne | my bad | 15:15 |
| dklyle | o/ | 15:16 |
| e0ne | #action e0ne to go over action items from http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-10-03-15.00.html and complete them | 15:16 |
| e0ne | dklyle: hi David | 15:16 |
| dklyle | hello e0ne | 15:16 |
| e0ne | #topic Community Goals | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Community Goals (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:16 | |
| e0ne | I almost finished openstack_auth tests migration from mox to mock | 15:16 |
| dklyle | \o/ | 15:17 |
| e0ne | there are 12 of ~65 tests failing on my env | 15:17 |
| e0ne | I'm going to propose a patch this week | 15:17 |
| rdopiera | great job | 15:17 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: thanks | 15:17 |
| e0ne | TBH, I do it too slow :( | 15:17 |
| e0ne | Python3 first goal - I need to check if something more is needed from horizon team | 15:18 |
| e0ne | I'm pretty sure that everything is already done | 15:18 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: do you have any progress on 'pre-upgrade check' goal? | 15:18 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: I'm looking into coopoerting with the tripleo validations, so as to not just build our own stuff separate from everything else | 15:19 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: I still need to talk with one more person | 15:19 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: ok, sounds good | 15:20 |
| e0ne | #topic Bug status | 15:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug status (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:20 | |
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| e0ne | we've got 467 Open bugs in the launchpad (+3 from the last week) | 15:21 |
| e0ne | 115 New bugs (-5 from the last week) | 15:21 |
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| e0ne | 38 low-hanging-fruit (the same as last week) | 15:21 |
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| e0ne | I'm adding components tags (cinder, keystone, etc) during triage | 15:22 |
| e0ne | I hope, it'll help us | 15:22 |
| e0ne | I'm not sure what should we do with old bugs | 15:22 |
| e0ne | we've got a lot of 3 years and older bugs in the launchpad | 15:23 |
| e0ne | I would like to get them open for a feature requests | 15:24 |
| e0ne | but how can we clean this list? | 15:24 |
| rdopiera | gradually | 15:24 |
| rdopiera | why does it need to be clean? | 15:24 |
| e0ne | I believe there are some outdated bugs | 15:24 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: I mean, it would be good to confirm that some of the 4-5 years old bugs are already fixed or are not reproducible now | 15:25 |
| rdopiera | yes, we will get to them eventually | 15:26 |
| e0ne | +1 | 15:26 |
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| rdopiera | which version should we use to test them, though? | 15:28 |
| e0ne | current master | 15:28 |
| e0ne | it's a general rule if there is no specific version in a bug report | 15:28 |
| rdopiera | and when there is? installing all the old versions to verify the bugs may be a chore | 15:29 |
| e0ne | +1 | 15:29 |
| rdopiera | especially if it's like Newton | 15:29 |
| e0ne | we can confirm that it's fixed or not in master | 15:30 |
| e0ne | so people can try to backport a fix into the stable branches if they are available | 15:30 |
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| e0ne | is anything else to add to this topic? | 15:32 |
| e0ne | ok, let's move to the next topic | 15:34 |
| e0ne | I don't have any updates related to the next topics | 15:35 |
| e0ne | so let's start Open Discussion if any | 15:35 |
| e0ne | #topic Open Discussion | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:35 | |
| e0ne | feel free to add anything related to topics from the agenda | 15:35 |
| e0ne | I'll wait 10 minutes and wrap up the meeting if we have nothing more to discuss | 15:37 |
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| e0ne | thanks everybody! see you next week | 15:44 |
| e0ne | #endmeeting | 15:44 |
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