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| gouthamr | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 2 15:01:13 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| lseki | o/ | 15:01 |
| dviroel | o/ | 15:01 |
| danielarthurt | o/ | 15:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:01 |
| carthaca | Hi | 15:01 |
| andrebeltrami | hello! | 15:01 |
| carloss | hi :) | 15:01 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | courtesy ping: xyang toabctl ganso amito lseki | 15:01 |
| ganso | o/ | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | hey lseki | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:02 |
| tbarron | ganso! I saw you in cinder and thought you might love them more than us. | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | hello everyone o/ | 15:02 |
| * tbarron is relieved | 15:02 | |
| vhari | o/ | 15:02 |
| ganso | tbarron: rofl | 15:02 |
| lseki | lol | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
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| gouthamr | I hope everyone is staying home and staying healthy | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | We're quietly approaching feature freeze for the Ussuri release | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | that's exactly in one week | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html | 15:03 |
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| * ganso is in a conflicting meeting | 15:04 | |
| gouthamr | we'll discuss patches in a bit, but, this milestone is a freeze for all new features/api changes - we'll also be making releases for python-manilaclient and manila-ui | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | ganso: ack | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | i'd like to not have any exceptions - but, we're living in exceptional times, so if you feel like some work of yours is going to be delayed, please let me know either on irc or via the openstack-discuss mailing list | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | no other announcements for today, it's busy around here :) | 15:07 |
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| gouthamr | anyone else got any? | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | #topic Tracking our work | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tracking our work (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:08 | |
| gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ussuri-review-focus | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | lets go down that list | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | Support query user message by timestamp | 15:08 |
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| gouthamr | thanks for reviewing this, i see two patches workflowed | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/716848/ | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | haixin added a test patch: | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | no rush to get this one in, we've time beyond feature freeze to merge tests too | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | [Unity] Manage/unmanage share server/share/snap | 15:10 |
| tbarron | unity CI seems problematic | 15:10 |
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| gouthamr | yes, dviroel suggested a fix yesterday, i'm not sure how far that's progressing | 15:11 |
| tbarron | or rather, maybe it is working, catching issues since the code under review is changing in response | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | ack, that too - its a good thing to insist for tempest test coverage | 15:12 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: I recommend that we not rush merge but allow exception if needed *if* consistent effort continues to be applied | 15:12 |
| tbarron | it's an isolated feature | 15:12 |
| tbarron | back end specific | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | yeah, we'll keep this at the top of the backlog | 15:12 |
| dviroel | +1 | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | Graduate share groups feature | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/graduate-share-groups-feature+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | I haven't personally gotten to this, but, it's been up there for a bit | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | oh boy, looks like we've had no eyes besides carloss | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | dviroel vkmc - can you please take a look | 15:13 |
| vkmc | gouthamr, will do | 15:14 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: sure | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | awesome thank you | 15:14 |
| carloss | gouthamr: vkmc reviewed the manila one, I have addressed the answers | 15:14 |
| carloss | ty vkmc dviroel | 15:14 |
| vkmc | thanks carloss, I'll review again | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | ah i missed that, ty vkmc carloss | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | Tenant based quotas for share replicas and replica sizes | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/limit-share-replicas-per-share+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | this is proceeding well i presume, you'll need to rebase because of the microversion bump | 15:15 |
| dviroel | currently reviewing these changes, also did some QA that I'll comment on the etherpad | 15:15 |
| carloss | I have got a new review from dviroel few minutes ago. will address it today. thanks for the review and qa dviroel | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | good stuff... | 15:16 |
| carloss | s/will address it today/will address the answers today | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | Create share from snapshot in another pool or backend | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/create-share-from-snapshot-in-another-pool-or-backend+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | some good conversations happened wrt this one | 15:17 |
| dviroel | I've uploaded a new patch on the core change, adding the check that we talked yesterday | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | vkmc, tbarron, i know there were plans to build on this for cephfs - so can you please take a look as well? | 15:17 |
| tbarron | +1 | 15:18 |
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| gouthamr | cool dviroel - lets aim to merge early next week, if we can satisfy ourselves | 15:18 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: ack, ty | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | there's a driver implementation from NetApp: | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712642/ | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | it's related | 15:19 |
| tbarron | yeah, kinda part of the same bunch | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | cool, that's all from this pile | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | do we have any python-manilaclient changes and manila-ui changes besides the ones called out above, that need to be there in our ussuri release? | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | i know we're still looking at a bunch of changes maaritamm proposed, we can opportunistically get those into this release, but, i don't think we need to rush them all through next week | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | (o/ maaritamm) | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | also gather that the manila-ui gate's currently broken | 15:22 |
| tbarron | +1 | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | huh, tenant quotas? | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | oh well, i'll report a launchpad bug and find vkmc | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | i mean owners | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | :) | 15:24 |
| vkmc | haha | 15:24 |
| tbarron | we had ui breakage before when core horizon did something with quotas | 15:24 |
| vkmc | I'm checking out that one... I'm digging into config files for the gate and latest changes in dependencies | 15:24 |
| tbarron | we were relying on horizon internals allegedly, might have some of that still | 15:24 |
| vkmc | believe so yes | 15:24 |
| vkmc | weird thing is that errors cannot be reproduced locally | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | oh | 15:25 |
| vkmc | I'm finding really funny stuff on the way as well | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | not even running the same unit tests? | 15:25 |
| tbarron | jaja | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | gremlins | 15:25 |
| vkmc | :D | 15:25 |
| vkmc | smurfs | 15:25 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: i ran same unit tests and don't hit it, but I was on fedora | 15:25 |
| vkmc | I ran those on bionic, same we are using in the gate | 15:26 |
| tbarron | vkmc++ | 15:26 |
| vkmc | still no clue though | 15:26 |
| vkmc | but will let you know when I find something | 15:26 |
| vkmc | currently looking the diff on horizon :) | 15:27 |
| tbarron | maybe horizon folks can tell us if there's any recent change on their side that could explain it | 15:27 |
| tbarron | jinx | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | concerning, thank you for chasing this down vkmc | 15:27 |
| tbarron | client change: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712543/ looks close to merge | 15:27 |
| tbarron | andrebeltrami: I think you could make carthaca happy pretty easilly on that one | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | it will need to change, tbarron | 15:28 |
| dviroel | ^ this one will need to be update, microversion will be bumped | 15:28 |
| andrebeltrami | @tbarron for sure! | 15:28 |
| tbarron | ok, picky picky picky | 15:29 |
| gouthamr | yep, bear with these microversion churns | 15:29 |
| gouthamr | cool, please pop anything else that you need reviewed on the review etherpad | 15:29 |
| * gouthamr speaks to those reading meeting logs too | 15:29 | |
| gouthamr | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ussuri-review-focus (Review Focus Etherpad for Ussuri Feature Freeze) | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | moving on | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | #topic Driver interface changing with new snapshot cloning behavior | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Driver interface changing with new snapshot cloning behavior (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:30 | |
| gouthamr | okay, snapshot cloning, it's a term now | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709697/ | 15:31 |
| gouthamr | we discussed this patch, so this is an informational update | 15:31 |
| gouthamr | the create_share_from_snapshot driver interface is changing | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | the change will be updating all in-tree drivers | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | and break any out-of-tree drivers | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | we don't know who/how many of them exist | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | we don't often make these kind of changes lightly | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: i think it's fitting to send a note to openstack-discuss when you get a chance regarding this, what do you think? | 15:33 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: agree, its a good idea. Will do | 15:34 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: lets wait a little bit to see if will be approved :) | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | thank you, in general i think it's a good idea to hand down the source/parent share - we should have always done it | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: ack, we should do around feature freeze | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | anything else about $topic? | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | #topic Bugs (vhari) | 15:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (vhari) (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:36 | |
| gouthamr | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug Triage etherpad) | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | o/ vhari | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | you're up | 15:36 |
| vhari | gouthamr, \o | 15:37 |
| vhari | gouthamr, let's look at a few new ones | 15:37 |
| vhari | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1870280 | 15:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1870280 in Manila "[RFE] add user message for share creation failure because of no share-type" [Undecided,New] | 15:37 |
| vkmc | heh | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | hmm, its a bug that we don't currently have a user message for this | 15:38 |
| vhari | gouthamr, we also hit this in our setup recently | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | its an classic asynchronous failure, and a non-privileged user is left wondering what they did wrong | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | you could think the bug's in two places: lack of user message | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | and python-manilaclient not preventing you from this issue | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | manila-ui sort of prevents you from hitting this | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | it reads share types from the server and makes it mandatory to pick one when creating a share | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | we could argue that it's probably unhelpful if there are no share types in that drop down, head scratcher - but, at least you don't wonder why your shares aren't going to error | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | with no explanation | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | vhari: lets triage this - i think its medium priority, and a low-hanging-fruit | 15:42 |
| vhari | gouthamr, ack | 15:43 |
| ganso | I don't see why we can't fail that synchronously | 15:43 |
| gouthamr | only difference is i think its a clear bug, not an RFE on manila | 15:43 |
| gouthamr | ganso: we could, but it'd involve slowing down the POST /shares API to retrieve share types | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | ganso: we don't commit the default share type to the database, so all share types must be retrieved and filtered | 15:44 |
| ganso | gouthamr: yea, the API does a bunch of DB queries today to perform validations. This would be one more | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | ganso: true, this was my initial assumption looking at the issue | 15:45 |
| ganso | gouthamr: oh I see there is no way the DB can know which share type is the default, so the query is not efficient | 15:45 |
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| gouthamr | yes, it's possible to add that check - but, in a multi-tenant cloud, this behavior may be intentional | 15:46 |
| gouthamr | cloud administrators may not have a default share type | 15:47 |
| ganso | well, since changing the default share type currently requires a restart, I don't see why we cannot save it in the database. Even if we change it to not require a restart later we could trigger an update whenever it would detect and apply the config change | 15:47 |
| gouthamr | ganso: hmm, as a share type attr? or a separate table? | 15:48 |
| ganso | gouthamr: that's even better for that scenario, we would fail immediately if the share type is not specified | 15:48 |
| ganso | gouthamr: share type attr sounds fine to me | 15:48 |
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| gouthamr | ganso: it'd be a multi-row update, and you're assuming that config is changed in all places at the same time? | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | we're slipping into design discussion, but i think we're onto something ganso | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | lets update the bug with these notes | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | i'll hold off on the "low-hanging-fruit" classification until we have arrived at a conclusion | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | vhari: perhaps pencil this in for revisiting in a few weeks, based off the discussion on the bug? | 15:51 |
| vhari | gouthamr, makes sense .. | 15:51 |
| vhari | moving on.. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1869712 | 15:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1869712 in Manila "Increased schedule time for non thin_provisioned backends" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Jose Castro Leon (jose-castro-leon) | 15:51 |
| vhari | this is new and has a proposed fix | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | vhari: this one has been triaged, we had a fix, but had to be reverted | 15:52 |
| vhari | floating out in case additional discussions | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/716683/ | 15:52 |
| vhari | gouthamr, ack | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | the revert hasn't merged yet, it's been stuck in the gate | 15:53 |
| gouthamr | josecastroleon will be reworking the solution based off a finding regarding some share backend capabilities being reported as either booleans or lists | 15:53 |
| vhari | gouthamr, will add note to the bug | 15:54 |
| vhari | gouthamr, that's a wrap for bugs - more next week | 15:55 |
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| gouthamr | thank you vhari | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | #topic Open Discussion | 15:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:55 | |
| vhari | anytime gouthamr :) | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | carthaca: I saw you hit an old bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1475351 | 15:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475351 in Manila "Bug: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'snapshot_delete'" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:56 |
| dviroel | was the next one in vhari's list | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | timely then | 15:56 |
| dviroel | :) | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | it's nearly 5 years old - at this point it's a feature | 15:57 |
| carthaca | edge case like the bug | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | carthaca: ack, i think we can reproduce this bug with faking a db lock timeout exception like the real one you hit | 15:58 |
| carthaca | implementing 'delete_snapshot' would be a feature change then | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | and it's interesting, it's possible even with share creation | 15:58 |
| carthaca | delete_snapshot <> snapshot_delete | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | carthaca: haha, nope, i just mean the discussion on that bug kinda dead-ended before you revived it | 15:59 |
| carthaca | sure, it is a joke :) | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | carthaca: :) | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | okay, we'll see if anyone picks up the bug | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | we're out of time | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | please review stuff for feature freeze | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | and stay healthy | 16:00 |
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| gouthamr | thanks for attending o/ | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| carloss | thanks gouthamr :) | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 2 16:00:37 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-04-02-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-04-02-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-04-02-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
| vkmc | ~o~ | 16:00 |
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