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| gagehugo | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 19 15:00:21 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-weekly-meeting agenda | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:02 |
| lamt | \o | 15:02 |
| portdirect | o/ | 15:02 |
| stevthedev | Hello | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | Lets get started | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | #topic next week meeting | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "next week meeting (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:05 | |
| gagehugo | I plan on canceling next week's meeting since I will be out, if anyone wants to host then lemme know | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | #topic virtual ptg - june | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "virtual ptg - june (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:06 | |
| gagehugo | Reminder that the OpenDev PTG is coming up in < 2 weeks | 15:06 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-ptg-victoria | 15:06 |
| gagehugo | ^ add topics to discuss there, otherwise it might be a quiet conference call | 15:06 |
| gagehugo | :) | 15:06 |
| gagehugo | #topic TLS | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "TLS (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:06 | |
| gagehugo | pordirect: I assume this is you | 15:07 |
| portdirect | :) | 15:07 |
| portdirect | so - it think the planets are alining for internal tls | 15:07 |
| portdirect | we have had a few rough starts on this before | 15:07 |
| portdirect | but evaluating jetstacks cert manager, it looks to be the missing link in what was attempted before | 15:08 |
| portdirect | id therefore like to propose that we use that to get this effort moving again | 15:08 |
| portdirect | which we could break down into a couple of steps: | 15:08 |
| portdirect | 1) Jetstack Cert Manager | 15:09 |
| portdirect | a) Chart | 15:09 |
| portdirect | b) Deploy in gate with snakeoil ca | 15:09 |
| portdirect | 2) Chart updates | 15:09 |
| portdirect | a) Add in option to create TLS cr, with required hostnames - ideally via htk macro similar to the ingress rule generator | 15:09 |
| portdirect | b) Get tls certs generated for all internal services | 15:09 |
| portdirect | c) Mount secrets into api pods | 15:09 |
| portdirect | d) Enable tls and also set the ingress rule to support secure backends | 15:09 |
| gagehugo | jetstack looks interesting | 15:10 |
| portdirect | its used by the cluster api and several other projects | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | hmm | 15:11 |
| portdirect | any thoughts on this approach? | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | It's the best one we have so far | 15:12 |
| lamt | I need to read up on it | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | same | 15:12 |
| portdirect | ok - please do | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | I assume this means we don't need that sidecar stuff from years ago? | 15:13 |
| lamt | I read about kube-lego before | 15:13 |
| lamt | but it has been a while | 15:13 |
| portdirect | gagehugo: i think thats the next phase following this | 15:13 |
| portdirect | lets make it simple | 15:13 |
| lamt | I guess they already have a chart | 15:13 |
| portdirect | and then optimise | 15:13 |
| lamt | I will play around with it | 15:13 |
| portdirect | this is a pretty similar approach to what i did on another openstack-on-k8s project | 15:14 |
| portdirect | and it worked very well there | 15:14 |
| gagehugo | nice | 15:14 |
| portdirect | though i was using dogtag/freeipa then ;) | 15:14 |
| lamt | if we can load the certs with the correct CN as secret, the rest should follow | 15:15 |
| lamt | but lemme play around with jetstack and read up on the docs | 15:16 |
| gagehugo | I will read up on it as well | 15:16 |
| gagehugo | and look at that chart | 15:16 |
| stevthedev | Me too. Would be cool to get mTLS working | 15:16 |
| lamt | we just need tls not mtls right? | 15:18 |
| gagehugo | I assume just TLS | 15:20 |
| stevthedev | Sorry, did I misunderstand? Is this for TLS within the cluster? | 15:21 |
| stevthedev | Maybe I a mixing my acronyms :) | 15:22 |
| stevthedev | Gotta read up in any case | 15:22 |
| gagehugo | portdirect: anything else for TLS? I think the path forward is to read up on jetstack for now | 15:24 |
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| gagehugo | thanks everyone, have a good rest of the week | 15:29 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:29 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 19 15:29:22 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2020/openstack_helm.2020-05-19-15.00.html | 15:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2020/openstack_helm.2020-05-19-15.00.txt | 15:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2020/openstack_helm.2020-05-19-15.00.log.html | 15:29 |
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| knikolla | #startmeeting keystone | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 19 17:00:08 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is knikolla. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 17:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 17:00 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 17:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 17:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 17:00 |
| bnemec | o/ | 17:00 |
| knikolla | how's everyone doing? | 17:01 |
| vishakha | o/ | 17:01 |
| cmurphy | hanging in there | 17:01 |
| lbragstad | same here | 17:01 |
| bnemec | Obligatory: https://i2.wp.com/www.newromantimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/sales-of-hang-in-there-2.jpg | 17:02 |
| cmurphy | lol | 17:03 |
| knikolla | that is more like hanging out there though | 17:03 |
| bnemec | There's a sloth version! https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQwTynAfWY15vRIBjwfji9b-Qoi04oFzFomjWATBF-txx6H4vUv&usqp=CAU | 17:04 |
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| knikolla | adorable! | 17:04 |
| bnemec | Google image search, the gift that keeps on giving. :-) | 17:04 |
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| bnemec | lol, for our Suse folks: https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/2/hang-in-there-magical-chameleon-john-schwegel.jpg | 17:05 |
| * bnemec is done posting memes | 17:06 | |
| knikolla | no announcement, but make sure everyone registers for the ptg https://virtualptgjune2020.eventbrite.com/ | 17:06 |
| knikolla | #topic Review Requests | 17:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Requests (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:06 | |
| vishakha | I have couple of reviews | 17:07 |
| vishakha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:update-onboarding+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 17:07 |
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| vishakha | Thanks cmurphy for the reviews. I updated these according to your comments | 17:08 |
| vishakha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/728387/ | 17:09 |
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| cmurphy | i haven't had a chance to look at the new revisions but wanted to ask the team, what's the consensus on using the terms "controller" and "manager"? | 17:09 |
| vishakha | I blocked patching of access_id of EC2 credentials as discussed. Tempest had no problem with it | 17:09 |
| cmurphy | i still always use "controller" and "manager" in my head because i'm old but i can see how that would be confusing to someone looking at the code post-flask and post-providerAPI | 17:10 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 17:10 |
| lbragstad | i agree | 17:10 |
| knikolla | i think since there aren't really references to controller in the code anymore, we should update the docs | 17:11 |
| cmurphy | what should it be called then? i suggested things like "API resource" in my reviews | 17:11 |
| cmurphy | and is the stuff in core.py still a "manager" or is it something else? | 17:12 |
| knikolla | good point | 17:12 |
| lbragstad | i always mentally mapped "controller" to "this stuff handles request logic" and "managers" contain "keystone-specific business logic" | 17:13 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: yeah exactly | 17:13 |
| cmurphy | it's kind of still the same | 17:13 |
| lbragstad | yeah | 17:13 |
| cmurphy | it's just the python classes and file names don't match | 17:13 |
| lbragstad | would that make core.py (the managers) a model? | 17:13 |
| lbragstad | meh... probably not | 17:14 |
| cmurphy | in an mvc sense i think the sql backend is the model | 17:14 |
| lbragstad | right | 17:15 |
| lbragstad | so the managers would really be the controllers | 17:15 |
| lbragstad | and the controllers would be the view | 17:15 |
| cmurphy | heh yeah kind of | 17:15 |
| * lbragstad isn't helping anything | 17:15 | |
| cmurphy | :P | 17:15 |
| knikolla | let's invent new terminology | 17:17 |
| cmurphy | knikolla: suggestions? | 17:18 |
| vishakha | API resource seemed reasonable | 17:18 |
| knikolla | no, i was just reminded of a team at my work who named the view for a project "picasso" and the manager "einstein" and I got PTSD from reviewing their code. | 17:19 |
| cmurphy | hahaha | 17:19 |
| cmurphy | personally i think i'd be comfortable continuing to call the providerAPI stuff "managers" and the flask stuff "controllers", or renaming the flask stuff "API ... resources/handlers/controllers/something" | 17:19 |
| knikolla | i say we go with API <something> since it's part of their name and file path | 17:20 |
| knikolla | /file path/package/ | 17:20 |
| knikolla | manager and controller have the same implication of being in charge, whereas API doesn't have any connotations. | 17:22 |
| cmurphy | the class names for the request handler part are {Thing}Resource so "API Resource" fits | 17:24 |
| cmurphy | the routes are defined in {Thing}API but i think we should still call them routes | 17:24 |
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| knikolla | ++ | 17:24 |
| vishakha | okay. | 17:26 |
| alistarle | Hi, thanks for your review on oslo.limits : https://review.opendev.org/#/q/owner:%22Victor+Coutellier%22+status:open+project:openstack/oslo.limit | 17:28 |
| alistarle | I have updated it with your comments | 17:28 |
| cmurphy | thanks alistarle | 17:28 |
| * bnemec still has that window open somewhere | 17:29 | |
| alistarle | But there is still a openstacksdk patch to be merged for mine to work, I don't used to updating dependency workflow | 17:29 |
| cmurphy | bnemec: you can open a new window! | 17:29 |
| alistarle | Should I wait for it to be merged, then wait a new version of the sdk, and update the lower-constraints of oslo_limit ? | 17:30 |
| bnemec | ETOOMANYWINDOWS | 17:30 |
| cmurphy | alistarle: you can add "Depends-on: " with a link to the openstacksdk patch in the commit message | 17:30 |
| cmurphy | that will prevent it from being merged before the dependency is merged | 17:30 |
| knikolla | bnemec: i keep a firefox addon that doesn't let me open more than 7 tabs | 17:30 |
| cmurphy | but it will also probably need a new release of openstacksdk before oslo.limit can use it | 17:31 |
| alistarle | And a new release of oslo.limit before using it into glance :/ | 17:31 |
| cmurphy | right | 17:31 |
| alistarle | BTW, I have written the full spec for glance about unified limit, if you want to take a look : https://review.opendev.org/#/c/729187/ | 17:31 |
| bnemec | knikolla: That would never work for me. :-P | 17:32 |
| alistarle | Glance guy's already told me to put that in the PTG agenda, do you think it is usefull to synchronize a session with you ? | 17:32 |
| bnemec | Did any of the migration tools ever get written? | 17:32 |
| cmurphy | not afaik but i haven't kept up with the nova team on that | 17:33 |
| alistarle | I don't think so, neither for glance, but as there is no quota yet, maybe there is no migration :p | 17:33 |
| bnemec | Oh, glance doesn't have any existing quotas? That would make it easier. :-) | 17:34 |
| alistarle | Yes, only hard limit in config file, that's why I think it will be easier than nova | 17:34 |
| cmurphy | oh good | 17:35 |
| bnemec | Maybe you can just ping us during the Glance discussion? | 17:36 |
| alistarle | Sure | 17:36 |
| knikolla | #topic Open Floor | 17:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Floor (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:37 | |
| knikolla | oops, Bug Duty first :) | 17:38 |
| knikolla | #topic Bug Duty | 17:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Duty (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:38 | |
| knikolla | There were a few reported bugs last week | 17:38 |
| * bnemec notes that meetbot has an undo command | 17:38 | |
| knikolla | ooo, thanks! | 17:39 |
| knikolla | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1878938 | 17:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1878938 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "System role assignments exist after system role delete" [Undecided,New] | 17:39 |
| knikolla | a quick check at the code shows that Role_id isn't a foreign key in either normal assignment or role assignments | 17:40 |
| knikolla | are we doing the cleanup in code instead of cascading delete? | 17:40 |
| knikolla | or is it because we define them as separate backends? | 17:40 |
| knikolla | them = role_backend and assignment_backend | 17:41 |
| cmurphy | if they're not in the same backend then it is supposed to be handled with notifications | 17:41 |
| cmurphy | which are easy to forget | 17:41 |
| knikolla | i see. | 17:42 |
| * knikolla needs to look at how they're implemented since I haven't played much with them. | 17:42 | |
| knikolla | cmurphy is covering this week, anyone volunteering for next? | 17:44 |
| vishakha | I can take for the next week | 17:44 |
| knikolla | thanks vishakha :) | 17:45 |
| vishakha | np | 17:45 |
| knikolla | #topic Open Floor | 17:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Floor (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:46 | |
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| cmurphy | i had a couple more reviews https://review.opendev.org/726727 https://review.opendev.org/726729 | 17:47 |
| vishakha | I had some more too :) | 17:48 |
| * knikolla is failing hard at chairing meetings | 17:48 | |
| vishakha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712724 | 17:48 |
| vishakha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/725634/ | 17:48 |
| lbragstad | looks like we're having some issues with py35 testing | 17:49 |
| lbragstad | i've been noticing a bunch of failures with ksa on master recently | 17:49 |
| lbragstad | example: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/727498/3 | 17:49 |
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| knikolla | Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement oslotest===4.2.0 | 17:50 |
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| bnemec | Is py35 even still supported on master branches? | 17:51 |
| lbragstad | ksa doesn't have a a tox env for it, but it is part of the zuul jobs | 17:51 |
| bnemec | I believe the Victoria unit test jobs are py36 and py38. At least that's what I'm seeing in a project that has been migrated to the victoria template. | 17:55 |
| bnemec | But maybe ksa makes broader compatibility guarantees? I know we've done that with pbr at times. | 17:55 |
| cmurphy | oh wait i just remembered https://review.opendev.org/721084 | 17:56 |
| knikolla | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/721093/ | 17:56 |
| cmurphy | yeah that | 17:56 |
| lbragstad | ah | 17:57 |
| bnemec | Okay, guess you can't just drop the job then. :-) | 17:58 |
| cmurphy | so yes py35 is still supported in ksa master and there is some governance saying that requirements etc should still work for py35 so if it's not we should help fix it | 17:58 |
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| cmurphy | looks like gmann responded on https://review.opendev.org/727498 and there's some ongoing work to fix it | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | so we have to maintain our own constraints for ksa? | 18:02 |
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| lbragstad | is what it sounds lik? | 18:02 |
| lbragstad | like* | 18:03 |
| knikolla | let's continue on #openstack-keystone | 18:03 |
| knikolla | #endmeeting | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 18:03 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 19 18:03:10 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2020/keystone.2020-05-19-17.00.html | 18:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2020/keystone.2020-05-19-17.00.txt | 18:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2020/keystone.2020-05-19-17.00.log.html | 18:03 |
| gmann | lbragstad: cmurphy discussing on requirement channel if it can be maintained on req side or project side have to maintain | 18:04 |
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