Wednesday, 2020-05-20

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chenkehi07:53
chenkei am here.07:53
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licanwei#startmeeting Watcher08:01
openstackMeeting started Wed May 20 08:01:12 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is licanwei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'watcher'08:01
chenkehi canwei08:01
licanweihi ~08:01
chenkeseems only you and me are here.08:01
chenkeshould we wait for a few minute?08:02
licanweiAgenda for today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#05.2F20.2F202008:02
licanwei#topic Announcements08:03
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chenkeok08:03
licanweiUssuri had released08:03
chenkeYes.08:03
licanweiand schedule for victoria: https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html08:04
licanweimove on08:09
licanwei#topic Review08:09
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licanweihttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/729503/ Victoria Project Priorities for Watcher needs review08:09
chenkeDone.08:10
licanweiThese are we plan to develop in Victoria08:11
licanweihttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/726877/ Improve logs of Workload Stabilization strategy needs review08:11
licanweiThis is for Rocky release08:11
licanweihttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/728397/ Monkey patch original current_thread _active needs review08:12
licanweiThis is for Ussuri08:13
chenkealready review08:14
licanweihttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/728141/ Remove translation sections from setup.cfg needs review08:15
licanwei+108:15
chenke++08:15
licanweiThat's all for today08:18
licanweianything else?08:18
licanweiok, i'll end the meeting08:20
licanweithanks all~08:20
licanwei#endmeeting08:20
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chenkebye08:31
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rosmaita#startmeeting cinder14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed May 20 14:00:09 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'14:00
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ussuri-meetings14:00
rajinirhi14:00
lsekio/14:00
rosmaita#topic roll call14:00
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toskyo/14:00
jungleboyjo/14:00
m5zhi =]14:00
whoami-rajatHi14:00
eharneyhi14:00
LiangFanghi14:00
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rosmaitagood turnout14:01
eharneyactually https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-victoria-meetings14:01
e0nehi14:01
walshh_hi14:01
rosmaitaeharney: thanks!14:01
rosmaitai am living in the past14:01
rosmaitaok, welcome to the first cinder meeting of victoria!14:02
* smcginnis is here but double booked14:02
rosmaitagood turnout, i have a bunch of announcements14:02
rosmaita#topic announcements -- follow-up from last meeting14:02
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enriquetasoo/14:02
jungleboyjYay!14:02
rosmaitai had two action items to send notes to the ML, which i didn't do, but here's why14:02
rosmaitaaction 1 was to propose that cinder co-maintain the barbican-tempest-plugin14:02
rosmaitai thought about that and decided that it's not a great idea, i don't want us being spread too thin14:03
rosmaita(also, we have another way to handle all the cinder scenario tests in that plugin that we'll discuss later)14:03
rosmaitaso instead, i went to the barbican meeting last week and proposed that tosky be the Barbican-Cinder liaison for testing related matters14:03
rosmaitawhich both tosky and the barbican team agreed to14:03
rosmaitaso mark that one "done"14:03
jungleboyj++14:03
enriquetaso++14:03
rosmaitaaction 2 was to see what operators think about the fix for compute host name leakage via volume-show14:03
rosmaitabut when i thought about it, we're going to make that change no matter what they think14:04
rosmaitarajat added release notes that explain clearly what the situation is14:04
rosmaitaso i'll send an announcement about the fix to the ML after the patch makes it through the gate14:04
rosmaita#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/726751/14:04
rosmaitaso that one is "done" too14:04
rosmaita#topic announcements - PTG14:04
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toskya note on action 1: it means we will need to test whether we can import the barbican-based volume test in cinder-tempest-plugin, and if it works (i.e. we can use the barbican tempest client and they can use the tests for cross-testing), we can move forward14:04
rosmaitayeah, i'm leaving that part up to you14:05
rosmaitadon't forget to register for the ptg:14:05
rosmaita#link https://virtualptgjune2020.eventbrite.com/14:05
rosmaitait's free14:05
rosmaitabut that way the foundation can send you the connection info etc14:05
rosmaitai think we'll be using "meetpad"14:05
jungleboyjYep.14:05
rosmaitaopendev is hosting an instance, it seems pretty good14:06
rosmaitafor cinder stuff, and don't forget to add topics to our etherpad:14:06
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-victoria-ptg-planning14:06
rosmaitai'll try to get the proposals worked into a rough schedule early next week14:07
rosmaitaso you can plan ahead a bit14:07
rosmaita#topic announcements - Interoperability WG14:07
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rosmaita#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-May/014895.html14:07
rosmaitai'll give you a second to open that link14:07
rosmaitathe big takeaway from that email is don't use Yahoo Mail on Android to send stuff to the ML14:08
rosmaitai'm pretty sure where he says "team members of Core" he's talking about the Core Components for interoperability, not that you need to be a cinder-core to participate on behalf of cinder14:08
rosmaitawhich actually brings me to my point, namely:14:08
rosmaitais there anyone here with a strong interest in interoperability and being the cinder liaison for the interoperability WG?14:08
rosmaita(please someone say yes)14:08
rosmaitaonly change we had in ussuri impacting interop is a bump in mv14:09
rosmaitatrain max mv == 3.59, ussuri max mv == 3.6014:09
rosmaitafrom this commit:14:09
rosmaita#link https://github.com/openstack/cinder/commit/7e98d14a5724efaa8b02d8dc1c5d28cde7ce0ea614:09
rosmaita(yes, it says 3 years ago, but it really was merged during ussuri)14:09
rosmaitabut tbh, i do not know how microversions are taken into account for interop purposes14:09
rosmaitai mean, whether operators can pick & choose which ones they expose14:10
rosmaitain any case, if you are interested in working with the interop WG14:10
rosmaitayour immediate task would be to attend the meeting on this friday 22 may at 14:00 UTC14:10
rosmaita(otherwise i guess i will have to go)14:10
rosmaitathey meet on zoom, so more fun than IRC14:10
rosmaitadetails are on the meeting agenda etherpad:14:10
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/interop14:10
rosmaitaanyway, grab me in #openstack-cinder today sometime if you want to talk about what it is in general that the interop WG does and what being cinder liaison would entail14:11
rosmaitathis used to be super-important, but these days i'm not so sure14:11
rosmaita#topic announcements - Launchpad!14:11
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rosmaitayes, we are still using it14:11
rosmaita#link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/victoria-114:11
rosmaitathat's what we have targeted so far for M-114:12
rosmaitaplus, of course, lots of driver patches are untargeted but  available for your reviewing pleasure14:12
rosmaitabtw, i put up a patch moving the image encryption spec to victoria:14:12
rosmaita#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/729574/14:13
rosmaitavictoria milestone-1 is June 18, so less than a month away14:13
rosmaitai know we haven't had the ptg yet14:13
rosmaitabut we have some leftover train-ussuri business that can be attended to14:13
rosmaitanfs encryption (enriquetaso), volume-local-cache (LiangFang), and in-flight encryption (Luzi and m5z, i think)14:14
rosmaitavictoria milestone-1 is June 18, so less than a month away14:14
rosmaitai am sure all those folks will appreciate reviews so they can keep things moving14:15
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rosmaitaok, that's it for announcements14:15
enriquetaso++14:15
rosmaita#topic tempest service client registration & detection14:15
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enriquetasothanks rosmaita14:15
rosmaitathis came up on the mailing list two weeks ago:14:16
rosmaita#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-May/014778.html14:16
rosmaitaand it refers to this:14:16
rosmaita#link https://docs.openstack.org/tempest/latest/plugins/plugin.html#service-clients14:16
rosmaitaanyway, tosky can fill in details, but the general idea is that the reason why we have volume scenario tests in the barbican-tempest-plugin14:16
rosmaitais that they need to use the barbican service client, which only exists in that plugin14:17
toskyyeah, sorry, my comment above should have been written here, as part of the follow up on the follow up of action 114:17
rosmaitabut, there is a framework in tempest to allow a plugin to register its clients so that others can use them14:17
toskylooking at the code, the barbican-tempest-plugin seems to implement the proper class methods to register its tempest clients14:17
rosmaitawe discussed this with the barbican team, and they like the idea of us (i.e., tosky) putting up a patch to get the client registered14:18
toskyso I believe that we can use the barbican tempest clients by just depending on barbican-tempest-plugin (and installing it in the same tempest environment)14:18
rosmaitaand they have no objection to us moving those tests to the cinder-tempest-plugin, where we should be able to use the barbican client14:19
rosmaitabut like tosky just said14:19
rosmaitathis is still theoretical14:19
rosmaitathere is a framework, but i'm not sure anyone is actually using it yet14:19
rosmaitabut if it does work, that will be great14:19
toskyoh, a lot of people are using it, I think gmann was a bit pessimistic there :)14:19
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rosmaitathat's great, then14:20
toskyor at least the project I'm close to implemented it (sahara and manila)14:20
toskyI will probably send a patch which imports the volume tests from thir plugin to cinder-tempest-plugin and see if everything explodes or not14:20
rosmaitasounds like a good plan to me!14:20
rosmaitaso, if this works, we'll have the volume tests back in our plugin14:20
rosmaitaand we can let the barbican people do their own thing14:21
toskywe also need to verify they can use our tests for cross-testing14:21
toskyso we don't break each other14:21
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rosmaitathat would be nice14:21
gmannrosmaita: tosky using it via import is dangerous and chance to break. service client can be registered i tempest and used from there. that is much stable and suggested way14:22
rosmaitagmann: thanks -- i think that's our plan14:22
gmannrunning tests of each other is all fine but using not-stable API are not14:22
gmann+114:22
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rosmaitatosky meant moving the tests over from their plugin to ours14:22
gmannok, tests are fine to move.14:23
rosmaitaanyway, that's some excitement on the testing front14:23
rosmaita#topic Backup bug fix and functional tests 14:23
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rosmaitaganso: that's you14:23
gansohi!14:24
gansook so this is just a heads up that the functional test patch and fix patches are 100% ready for review14:24
ganso#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/72083314:24
ganso#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/728289/14:24
gansoI went with the approach that we've had agreed in previous meetings, to have separate backup trees per tenant14:25
gansothat worked very well IMO, implementation was simple, and from the functional test we can see from the API that it works as our agreed definition of "intended".14:26
gansoin the test patch comments you can see the before and after the depends-on was added14:27
rosmaitaok, thanks -- i just targeted those for victoria milestone-114:28
gansothat's all I had, looking forward to any review feedback14:28
rosmaitaok, thanks for the reminder14:29
rosmaita#topic volume local cache14:29
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LiangFanghi14:29
rosmaitahello14:29
LiangFangI moved the spec from U to V14:29
LiangFangand the review is: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/729473/ 14:30
LiangFangnot sure I did correctly14:30
LiangFangregarding the cinder patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700799/14:31
whoami-rajatthis will be a merge conflict with the encryption one14:31
rosmaitayeah, we can work that out later -- the spec is approved for V even if it's not in that directory14:31
rosmaitayet14:31
LiangFangso depends on which patch go first, right? seems the second patch need to do the merge conflict:)14:32
rosmaitayep14:33
LiangFangseems I don't need to handle the merge conflict currectly14:33
rosmaitayes, don't worry about the spec, we'll get that taken care of eventually14:34
LiangFangin last meeting, team and eharney suggested to move cacheable=True capability to volume manager14:34
LiangFangrosmaita: thanks14:34
LiangFangI have done the rework, moved cacheable=True from driver to manager14:35
LiangFangnow this is enabled by protocols, iscsi/fc/nvmeof will be added cacheable14:35
LiangFangcorrectly os-brick patch is also ready to be reviewed14:36
LiangFanghttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/663549/ os-brick patch14:36
LiangFangI'm sorry I cannot add tempest test case at this moment, because:14:37
LiangFangtempest test case depends on the initial patches be merged first14:37
LiangFange.g.14:37
LiangFangin test case, I cannot successfully create volume type with cacheable <is >True, but14:38
toskynot even if you create a test which depends-on the patch with the feature?14:38
LiangFangin test case, I can successfully create volume type with cacheable <is >True, but14:38
LiangFangin the following creating volume, it will fail, because scheduler cannot find a valid backend14:39
LiangFangthis is because no backend is marked as cacheable by manager(this is in cinder patch)14:40
whoami-rajat^ what tosky said, depends on doesn't help?14:41
LiangFangtosky: can I depends on a patch that have not merged? thanks14:41
toskyLiangFang: yes, that's the magic of zuul14:41
LiangFanggreat!14:41
rosmaitatosky: can you have multiple depends-on ?14:42
LiangFangthanks14:42
toskyrosmaita: yes (not sure what happens if they conflict, but I didn't hit that case)14:42
rosmaitathat shouldn't happen here14:42
toskyhave you never seen a patch on zuul which has like 6 or 7 other patches in its stack?14:42
rosmaitano, i like my dependencies to be singular14:43
LiangFangtosky: one more thing of tempest test case is:14:44
LiangFangafter volume be cached, I need to verify it is really successfully cached, then, i need to get the info from host machine14:44
LiangFangbut host machine(compute node) normally is not the one running tempest test case14:45
LiangFangso it is not possible to get info from host machine(compute node)14:46
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toskyit depends on what you need to do in the test to ensure that everything works14:46
LiangFangbut yes, in zuul, it is the same machine14:46
LiangFangI can call e.g. "ps aux", then check the qemu process, check the -drive, if it is like cas1-1 or something, then it means it is successfully cached14:48
rosmaitayou might want to talk to some nova people, i imagine that they have to do that kind of stuff for some of their tests14:49
LiangFang "ps aux" should be running on compute node, but yes, it works in zuul14:49
LiangFangrosmaita: ok14:49
LiangFangI find the tempest lib files, seems cannot find a function to run cmd in compute node (yes, can run in VM that created)14:50
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toskyuhm, need to recheck for the compute node14:51
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LiangFangso, if added the test cases like this way (ps aux, then check ..), it means the test case can only run in zuul, it is not a common test case that can run in an environment that tempest is not running in the compute node14:52
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rosmaitawell, i guess running in zuul only is a start14:53
eharneyi don't think you can rely on running "ps" from a tempest test to check on the status of something like this14:53
LiangFanganother thing is:14:53
toskyI would say: let's write down which are the conditions needed to verify the feature, in plan English, and then move forward from there14:54
LiangFangseems tempest test case can only running functional test, cannot really compare the performance with/without cache, because:14:54
toskyno, that's not the place for performance test (that would be rally), but we probably need to see anyway if it's working14:55
LiangFangeven not cached, in zuul, the volume(actually the file) will be cached by host machine system page cache14:55
rosmaitayes, the point of these is to make sure everything works, not to assess performance14:56
LiangFangok14:56
rosmaitaanything else?14:57
LiangFangso I will try to add depend-on patches, and then make tempest works14:57
rosmaitasounds good!14:57
LiangFangthat's all, thanks14:57
rosmaitaok, 2 minutes for open discussion14:57
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:57
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toskyreminder: please vote on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709780/ which migrates the grenade jobs to native zuul v3, part of the community goal for V (and it will be backported to ussuri)14:58
rosmaitaok, thanks, i will look at that one after the meeting14:58
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m5zsmall request: could you please review: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/724634/514:59
m5z#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/724634/514:59
rosmaitaok15:00
rosmaitaout of time ... thanks everyone!15:00
m5zthanks :)15:00
rosmaita#endmeeting15:00
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e0ne#startmeeting horizon15:01
openstackMeeting started Wed May 20 15:01:23 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'15:01
vishalmanchandahi15:01
e0nehi15:01
rdopierao/15:01
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amotokihi15:02
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e0nelooks like we can start now15:03
e0ne#topic Notices15:03
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e0nein case if somebody missed it, here is Vctoria cycle schedule: https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html15:04
e0newe're about one month before victoria-1 milestone15:04
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e0nedon't forget to register for PTG: https://www.openstack.org/ptg/15:05
e0neit will be virtual this time and absolutely free15:05
e0neHorizon session will be on Monday and Tuesday15:06
rdopieramonday is a holiday15:07
e0neWednesday is pretty late for us, so I scheduled it just for case if somebody from US  would like to join us15:07
e0nerdopiera: the 1st of June is the holiday in Poland?15:07
rdopierae0ne: in Switzerland15:07
rdopiera(I'm Polish but I live in Zurich)15:08
e0nerdopiera: oh.. why didn't you notify me earlier?15:08
e0neI'll try to re-schedule it but I can't guarantee anything now15:08
rdopieraplease don't bother, I can attend anyways15:09
e0nerdopiera: great!15:09
rdopierano idea why I mentioned it now, please ignore it15:09
e0negot it:)15:09
e0nehere is our PTG planning etherpad15:09
e0ne#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-v-ptg15:09
e0nefeel free do add any topic you would like to discuss during at the PTG15:10
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e0ne#topic Review requests for Stable gate failure fixes15:11
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e0neamotoki: we;ve got all patches  form the etherpad merged now15:13
amotokie0ne: rdopiera: thanks!15:13
e0neamotoki: thanks for fixing our gates15:13
amotokione question for stein fix15:14
amotokiit is about https://review.opendev.org/#/q/I86a56afcd2cde3a088abcc66c0294424cd03546f15:14
amotokido we want to land backports for ussuri and train as well?15:14
amotokiwe don't hit gate breakage but IMHO it is nice to have.15:15
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rdopiera+2ed15:15
e0ne+115:16
e0neamotoki: I'll cherry pick your patches to EM branches15:16
amotokinice15:16
e0neit's good to have all gates working15:16
amotokinote that this is not required for rocky and before15:16
amotokijs jobs in rocky and before are defined in openstack-zuul-jobs. the jobs were fixed there.15:17
e0negood to know it15:18
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amotokiwe hit gate failure in ALL branches. lucky enough :)15:18
e0ne:)15:19
amotokiand all of them now recovered15:19
e0negreat!15:20
e0nedo we have anything to discuss today?15:20
amotokinothing from me15:20
e0neI don't have anything for today15:21
vishalmanchandanothing from my side.15:21
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e0nethanks everybody for your contributions15:22
e0nekeep yourself safe and see you next week15:22
vishalmanchandayou too15:22
vishalmanchandabye all15:22
e0ne#endmeeting15:22
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