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gouthamr#startmeeting manila15:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jul  9 15:01:39 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:01
carlosshi o/15:01
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dviroel_o/15:01
danielarthurthi!15:01
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gouthamrcourtesy ping: ganso vkmc amito lseki tbarron andrebeltrami15:02
tbarronHi!15:02
vhario/15:02
lsekio/15:02
carthacaHi15:02
andrebeltramio/15:02
gouthamrhey everyone! thanks for joining15:02
gouthamrhere's the agenda for today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting15:02
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gouthamrirc has been flaky a bit, so let me save this meeting in case :)15:03
gouthamr#chair tbarron15:03
openstackCurrent chairs: gouthamr tbarron15:03
tbarronack15:04
gouthamr^ i know he doesn't use irccloud or rdocloud or any other thing that's down at the moment :)15:04
gouthamr#topic Announcements15:04
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gouthamrso we're at R-14 - about the midway point in the victoria release cycle15:05
gouthamr#link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html15:05
gouthamrthis is our specifications deadline15:05
gouthamrwe'll discuss these in a bit...15:05
tbarronmy bouncer is in the DigitalOcean -- hope I didn't just jinx them15:05
gouthamrthe week of Jul 27 - Jul 31 is the new driver deadline15:06
gouthamri've seen some queries for new driver inclusions, and there's one blueprint filed15:06
gouthamrlets hope they can have their code submitted and tested by that deadline15:07
gouthamrif you have any questions or concerns about these deadlines, do let us know - these are helpful safeguards and save reviewer bandwidth by planning the release better...15:08
gouthamrbut, we've had issues come up that take your focus away... and we'll be accommodative of that in a reasonable manner15:09
gouthamrnext up is some good news15:09
gouthamrwe've a new tc tag approved in the last week15:10
gouthamr#link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tags/tc_approved-release.html15:10
tbarrongouthamr: thanks for your great work on this!  and thanks also to gmann and others who supported the initiative.15:10
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gouthamrabsolutely, we had a great discussion about this at the PTG and we have much to follow up on..15:11
gmann+1.15:11
gouthamrwhile we're on this topic, i'd encourage you to take a look at another proposal if you haven't:15:12
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/736369/ (Create starter-kit:kubernetes-in-virt tag)15:12
gouthamrit needs a trivial rebase, but please share your thoughts when you get a chance15:13
gouthamrany other announcements?15:13
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gouthamr#topic CI status15:14
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gouthamrlate last week, we had a breakage - and we haven't root-caused it yet15:15
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gouthamrour voting LVM job - the legacy one that we run on manila's main branch as well as the native-zuulv3 style job fail when run on some infra15:16
gouthamr#link https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/builds?job_name=manila-tempest-plugin-lvm15:16
gouthamror a better link:15:17
gouthamr#link https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/builds?job_name=manila-tempest-plugin-lvm&job_name=manila-tempest-minimal-lvm-ipv6-only (LVM jobs)15:17
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gouthamrthe cause seems to be a reboot that occurs on the test node in the middle of running tests15:18
tbarron+115:18
dviroeland it only happens with LVM?15:18
tbarronyes, so far as i can tell15:19
gouthamrbefore that reboot occurs, a bunch of tests are run, and do pass - however, after the reboot, i don't know how, but, testr_results.html reports all tests having failed15:19
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tbarrongouthamr: do we still think the issue tracks with rax nodes?15:20
gouthamrwe've been playing with reducing the test concurrency, or modifying the backing file size given that we do thick provisioning, and mayy be running out of space15:20
tbarroni do but am checking15:20
gouthamrtbarron: yes, i have seen the job run on other clouds and pass or fail one or more scenario tests15:20
tbarroni don't think it's a resource issue (and that was my main guess b/c rax nodes have less disk space than e.g. vexxhost) on root15:21
gouthamrtbarron: apart from rax, i haven't seen this reboot behavior occurring elsewhere15:21
tbarronhttps://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/51980ae05c024e35b73614a9db4925bd/log/logs/screen-m-shr.txt#8814-882915:21
tbarrontha's on rax right before a reboot15:21
tbarroninstrumented for free memory and disk15:21
tbarronthe issue is complicated by unreliable syslog and journal.  Both can lose info before the reboot and syslog has limited info usually anyways.15:23
tbarronThough I found one syslog with perhaps a clue:15:23
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tbarronhttps://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/1bc61a82ace14217807f28c5b8c9debe/log/controller/logs/syslog.txt#846315:23
tbarronbut that's with the same kernel that is running on vexxhost15:24
tbarronwhere we don't see an issue15:24
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tbarronthis particular GPF seems to pertain to paqcket filtering and the packets in question are ipv615:25
gouthamrgood find, tbarron - we do run ipv6 tests even with cephfs-nfs15:27
tbarrongouthamr: true and i haven't seen this issue there15:27
gouthamrokay, lets make a patch disabling ipv6 data path tests, and see if that changes anything15:28
gouthamrwould help to isolate the issue if anything, so we can follow up15:28
tbarron+115:28
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tbarronlvm job is updating kernel nfs exports whereas cephfs-nfs job is using ganesha but i'm just speculatiing again15:29
gouthamrcool, we'll continue debugging then and take this to #openstack-manila15:30
gouthamrbut, in general, folks - do not recheck on failures in this job..15:31
dviroeltbarron gouthamr great job in investigating that, hope to find some time to join on debugging15:31
gouthamrthank you dviroel15:31
gouthamranything else regarding $topic?15:32
carlosstbarron gouthamr ++15:32
gouthamr#topic Stable branch status15:33
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gouthamrwe meant to talk about this one during the PTG15:33
gouthamri wanted to run this by the group here, before opening the discussion on the mailing list15:33
gouthamrwe have ETOOMANY branches that are in Extended Maintenance15:34
gouthamrocata through rocky15:34
gouthamrthe last time anyone's proposed a patch to ocata was a year ago15:35
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/manila+branch:stable/ocata15:35
gouthamrpike's seen some activity this year, but the last patch that merged was at three months ago:15:36
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/manila+branch:stable/pike15:36
gouthamri'm not sure any tempest jobs work on these branches.. and it's not clear if anyone benefits from us keeping these alive15:36
gouthamrso should we just pull the trigger on EOL-ing these branches15:37
gouthamrthat means we'll be creating a tag off their HEAD, and deleting the branches15:38
gouthamrit'll save gate resources, because bitrot jobs are still running testing these branches15:38
tbarron+115:39
dviroel+115:39
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carloss+115:40
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gouthamrcool, does it mean others disagree, or don't care either way? :)15:40
carthacaI don't care ;)15:41
lseki+115:41
danielarthurt+115:41
andrebeltrami+115:41
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gouthamrhaha, that was my thought too, i don't feel like  anyone is relying on us keeping these branches alive15:41
gouthamr#action gouthamr will send an email asking to EOL stable/pike and stable/ocata branches15:42
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gouthamrwe still have stable/queens and stable/rocky - for the moment, wearing my red fedora, i want to help keep stable/queens alive a bit longer, to allow backports that can make their way into rdo and rhosp15:43
dviroel+115:44
gouthamrbut, its not a priority to get the gate up and running against these two branches - devstack's failing atm, i'll take a look when we're done fixing all things on the main branch15:44
gouthamrhowever, we should actively keep EOL'ing older branches so we don't give the impression that these are meant to work for these extended periods, while all development is focused ahead15:45
gouthamranyway, that's all i had to say about that..15:46
gouthamrany other thoughts?15:46
gouthamr#topic Specifications15:46
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dviroel\o/15:47
gouthamri see four proposed for this release, but two actively being worked on..15:47
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/735970/ (Share server migration)15:47
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739136/ (Add lite spec for share server limits)15:47
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/729292/ (Improve security service update --- deferred to Wallaby?)15:48
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gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/710166/ (Add share group replica)15:48
gouthamrdo you think we can actively review these this week15:49
gouthamrand bring up any concerns at the next meeting?15:49
tbarrondviroel: carloss thanks for #115:50
tbarronkeeping focus on current release, and15:50
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tbarron#2 discussing issues publicly, upstream15:50
tbarrongouthamr: that sounds like a good plan to me15:51
carloss:)15:51
tbarronCan we think of people who shold review besides the usual suspects?15:51
carlossI agree. Will take a look in the others I haven't reviewed yet15:51
gouthamrwe can take longer on this one:15:51
dviroelwould be good to have some feedback on #3 too, but I will asks more eyes on #1 and #2 at this moment15:51
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/729292/ (Improve security service update --- deferred to Wallaby?)15:51
gouthamryeah..15:52
tbarronanybody paricularly imjpacted by share server migration or share server limits?15:52
carthacaI will have a look, too15:52
tbarronumm, him ^^15:52
dviroelhaha15:52
gouthamr:) ty carthaca15:52
carthacaNaturally, because I requested those features15:53
gouthamrcarloss: i'd reach out to Jon Vondra for the server limits spec because he had some thoughts15:53
carlossoh, good15:54
carlosswill tag him in the patch as well15:54
gouthamrthanks..15:54
gouthamrokay, anything else about specs?15:54
gouthamrwe've ~6 minutes, maybe we can talk about one or two bugs, vhari?15:55
gouthamr#topic Bugs (vhari)15:55
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vharisure ..15:55
gouthamrthanks, and sorry - its been that sort of week :)15:55
vharigouthamr, may have time to consider closing this15:55
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/183893615:55
openstackLaunchpad bug 1838936 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "manila-share not working with ceph mimic (13.2) nor ceph nautilus (14.2)" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:55
gouthamrah yes!15:55
gouthamrty vhari, i'll do that15:56
vharigouthamr, gr8 ty15:56
gouthamrvkmc is out today, but we know what might have happened in their environments15:56
gouthamri'll comment and close that bug15:56
vharithat's a wrap for bugs out of time ..15:56
gouthamrthank you!15:57
gouthamr#topic Open Discussion15:57
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gouthamrlooks like we have none, and can save a whole minute :)15:58
gouthamrthank you all for joining - lets get to reviewing and debugging these gate issues on #openstack-manila15:58
gouthamrsee you here next week, stay safe!15:59
dviroelthanks!!!15:59
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carlossthanks!15:59
gouthamr#endmeeting15:59
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