Wednesday, 2020-11-11

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rosmaita#startmeeting cinder14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Nov 11 14:00:16 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'14:00
rosmaita#topic roll call14:00
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whoami-rajat__Hi14:00
michael-mcaleerHi everyone14:00
TusharTgitehi14:01
toskyhi14:01
lsekio/14:01
e0nehi14:01
geguileohi! o/14:01
rosmaitalooks like good turnout!14:01
eharneyhi14:01
jungleboyjo/14:02
zoharmhi!14:02
rosmaita#linkĀ https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-wallaby-meetings14:02
rosmaitaok, let's get started14:02
rosmaita#topic announcements14:02
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rosmaitafirst thing: whoami-rajat has volunteered to be the release manager14:02
rosmaitawe will hear from him a bit later14:03
rosmaitathere are still roles available for people who want to get more involved in cinder14:03
rosmaitasee the Wallaby PTG summary on the wiki for details14:03
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rosmaitasecond item:14:05
rosmaita"consistent and secure" policy testing strategy still under discussion14:05
rosmaita#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018636.html14:05
rosmaitathere's a link to the etherpad from yesterday's discussion in that email14:06
rosmaitawhoami-rajat__ and i both attended14:06
whoami-rajat__also tosky  attended14:06
rosmaitasorry ... how can i forget tosky ?14:06
rosmaitatosky was there too14:06
toskyit's totally possible14:06
rosmaitatosky: you are ubiquitous14:07
rosmaitathe issue has to do whether full-on tempest api tests using the roles & scopes for the nine personas14:07
rosmaitaor some kind of unit or functional testing14:07
rosmaitathe problem is that we want the responses from keystone to be realistic14:08
rosmaitaon the other hand, we don't want to do a bunch of rechecks for extraneous failures14:08
rosmaitaso if you have suggestions or thoughts, please put them on the etherpad or attend the next meeting on monday14:08
rosmaita(info in the email linked earlier)14:08
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rosmaitafinal announcement is that as jungleboyj reported at the PTG, the TC is taking a "stance" on the openstackclient14:09
rosmaita#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/759904/14:09
jungleboyj:-)14:09
rosmaitahas not yet been approved, so leave comments if you have opinions14:09
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rosmaitathere's no timeline on the proposal, it's just aspirational at this point14:10
rosmaitai guess one more thing14:10
jungleboyjRight.  Just a note on that.14:10
jungleboyjWe know that it is going to be a heavy lift.14:11
jungleboyjWe aren't mandating things at the moment but we are making note that we need to start heading in that direction.14:11
jungleboyjEveryone has been warned.  ;-)14:11
rosmaitaok, i still think they need to fix the 'openstack help' feature to make it usable, but that's just me14:13
eharneyhow's the microversion stuff for osc going?14:13
rosmaitaone last point about the community goals for wallaby: the support-yaml-only-for-policy-files proposal is still under vote, so no action on that goal yet14:13
rosmaitaeharney: "it works for nova"14:13
eharneyok, same as a few years ago then14:13
jungleboyjeharney:  Well, they say it is working.  If it doesn't have what we need, then we need to let them know.14:13
jungleboyjeharney:  Yes.  Same old same old.14:13
rosmaitai have on my to-do list to  check the mv support and then talk with someone on the osc team, and also tell them about python-brick-cinderclient-ext14:14
rosmaitanamely, that it needs to be supported14:14
rosmaitathat's all from me -- anyone have anything to announce?14:15
jungleboyjrosmaita:  Ok.  So that is a good starting point.14:15
rosmaita#topic Bug Review14:17
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michael-mcaleerthanks rosmaita14:17
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-wallaby-r23-bug-overview14:17
michael-mcaleerWallaby R-23 bug review #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-wallaby-r23-bug-overview14:17
michael-mcaleer4 bugs opened this week, 3 in cinder and 1 in os-brick14:17
michael-mcaleercinder first14:17
michael-mcaleercinder-manage traceback on missing action https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/190285214:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1902852 in Cinder "cinder-manage traceback on missing action" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Gorka Eguileor (gorka)14:17
michael-mcaleercurrently in progress14:18
michael-mcaleerRunning the cinder-manage command with a category but without an action will throw a Traceback.14:18
michael-mcaleer$ cinder-manage backup14:18
michael-mcaleer2020-11-04 10:44:49.541 9465 ERROR cinder oslo_config.cfg.NoSuchOptError: no such option action_fn in group [DEFAULT]14:18
rosmaitathat's pretty ugly14:18
michael-mcaleerany comments or happy to move onto second bug?14:19
whoami-rajat__there's already a fix upstream so looks good14:19
michael-mcaleeragree, I had a look at the fix on Monday14:19
michael-mcaleersecond bug, NFS: Failed to extend volume after blockRebase14:20
michael-mcaleer #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/190331914:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1903319 in Cinder "nfs: failed to extend volume after blockRebase" [Undecided,Triaged] - Assigned to Rajat Dhasmana (whoami-rajat)14:20
michael-mcaleerIt fails with the following error in cinder-volume:14:20
michael-mcaleerERROR cinder.volume.manager [req-5f939fc7-f4a5-4f6a-9b70-6dcb52ee7f2e req-a2702c72-fc40-41df-a600-903a5293b898 admin None] Extend volume failed.: oslo_concurrency.processutils.ProcessExecutionError: Unexpected error while running command.Command: sudo cinder-rootwrap /etc/cinder/rootwrap.conf qemu-img resize /opt/stack/data/cinder/mnt/896fb15da6036b68a917322e72ebfe57/volume-2a351c27-abb0-4965-a16e-5378bd2c2afe 2G14:20
michael-mcaleerExit code: 114:20
michael-mcaleerStdout: ''14:20
michael-mcaleerStderr: "qemu-img: Could not open '/opt/stack/data/cinder/mnt/896fb15da6036b68a917322e72ebfe57/volume-2a351c27-abb0-4965-a16e-5378bd2c2afe': Could not open '/opt/stack/data/cinder/mnt/896fb15da6036b68a917322e72ebfe57/volume-2a351c27-abb0-4965-a16e-5378bd2c2afe': No such file or directory\n"14:20
michael-mcaleerCurrently only triaged14:20
whoami-rajat__I'm currently working on a fix for this, but this might be affecting more than just the extend operation14:20
whoami-rajat__lseki: also this might be affecting netapp nfs driver extend operation as well14:21
lsekiI'll try to reproduce it14:21
michael-mcaleerany further comments or happy to move onto third and last cinder bug?14:22
rosmaitakeep on moving!14:22
michael-mcaleerVNX: LUN allocation owner issue #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/190350014:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1903500 in Cinder "VNX: LUN allocation owner issue" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Yong Huang (yonghuang)14:22
michael-mcaleerdriver specific bug here for DellEMC VNX14:22
michael-mcaleercurrently in progress14:22
michael-mcaleerill move onto os-brick now as thats well covered by driver owner14:23
michael-mcaleerNVMe not flushing on disconnect #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-brick/+bug/190303214:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1903032 in os-brick "NVMe not flushing on disconnect" [Undecided,New]14:23
rosmaitavery nice that these all have people working on them already14:23
rosmaitathat seems like it should be high priority14:23
michael-mcaleeryeah I was going to discuss this at the end about priority/importance14:23
michael-mcaleergood example here14:24
rosmaitasorry, did not mean to get ahead of you14:24
jungleboyjI think that bug came out of discussion at the PTG.14:24
michael-mcaleerit did yeah14:24
jungleboyjWasn't someone from the new Vendor that joined looking at that?14:24
geguileoyeah, I found that one while preparing for the PTG14:24
michael-mcaleerI also cannot set the state to traiged14:24
michael-mcaleerjungleboyj: yes he was discussing this14:25
rosmaitaoh, maybe your cinder permissions don't apply to os-brick space in launchpad14:25
michael-mcaleerwe were watching it in the powermax team also14:25
rosmaitai will look into that after the meeting14:25
michael-mcaleerrosmaita: I can change it to anything apart from triaged or wont fix oddly14:25
whoami-rajat__I'm also not able to set it to triaged14:25
michael-mcaleerwe can sort that out later, might impact a number of people14:26
michael-mcaleerthats all the bugs that came in this week, housekeeping only has one point and that was on bug importance/priority14:26
rosmaita#action rosmaita look into bug permissions for cinder-related projects in launchpad14:27
michael-mcaleershould bug supervisor set this or should we reach consensus each week on the new bugs and their importance at these meetings14:27
rosmaitai think set the ones you'14:27
rosmaitare sure about and we can discuss ones you are not sure about14:27
michael-mcaleersounds good to me14:27
rosmaitathank you!14:27
jungleboyj++14:27
michael-mcaleerthats all I have rosmaita14:27
rosmaitaok, next up is releases14:28
rosmaita#topic stable releases14:28
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whoami-rajat__Hi14:28
whoami-rajat__as you can see we've planned a release on Nov 15 which doesn't seem possible as there are a lot of unmerged patches in all branches14:28
whoami-rajat__#link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+series14:28
whoami-rajat__the stable releases are for victoria, ussuri and train14:29
whoami-rajat__I've mentioned the links to branches where we have open patches, other branches doesn't have release specific patches (like one in cinderlib train related to pep8 gate fix)14:29
whoami-rajat__also I've prepared a summary for all open patches14:30
whoami-rajat__#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/stable-releases-review-tracker14:30
whoami-rajat__It's still not complete for train as I haven't looked at all patches there14:30
whoami-rajat__My current query is, when can we plan a stable release and then merge patches accordingly14:31
whoami-rajat__(Also there are 2 feature backports in ussuri that we can abandon)14:31
rosmaitalet's aim for 26 November14:31
whoami-rajat__ok, works for me14:32
rosmaitaok, so stable-maint-cores, please look at rajat's etherpad at your convenience14:32
jungleboyjCan do.14:33
rosmaitaand if you see any bad backports, please note them on the etherpad14:33
whoami-rajat__I will complete the train patches list today EOD14:33
rosmaita"bad" == not appropriate to backport14:33
rosmaitawhoami-rajat__: thank you for your work on this14:33
whoami-rajat__sure, np14:34
rosmaitaok, on to the main part of our show14:34
rosmaita#topic removing Block Storage API v2 support from python-cinderclient14:34
*** openstack changes topic to "removing Block Storage API v2 support from python-cinderclient (Meeting topic: cinder)"14:34
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/python-cinderclient-v2-support-removal14:34
rosmaitawe had an initial discussion last week14:34
rosmaitadecided to put an announcement to the ML for comments14:35
rosmaita#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018531.html14:35
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rosmaitaand there were no comments ... so looks like it's up to us14:35
rosmaitathe contenders are the "quick" and "one more" strategies14:35
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rosmaitaany discussion, or have people thought about this and just want to vote?14:36
rosmaita(i will wait a few minutes while people look at the options again in the etherpad)14:37
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rosmaitaok, i cannot keep my mouth shut ... my thought is that ordinarily i would not be in favor of "quick", but since you can pin your v3 requests to use mv 3.0, you get back the v2 responses and won't have to change scripts immediately14:40
rosmaitaso i am leaning toward "quick"14:40
rosmaitaeither i am disconnected or nobody cares about this issue14:41
jungleboyjI don't have a strong feeling.  Quick is fine if we haven't gotten any response.14:41
rosmaitajungleboyj: ty!14:42
rosmaitaok, let's vote14:42
rosmaita#startvote python-cinderclient v2 support removal strategy? "quick", "one more", "don't care"14:42
openstackBegin voting on: python-cinderclient v2 support removal strategy? Valid vote options are , quick, one, more, don, t, care, .14:42
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.14:42
rosmaitaapparently the quotation marks don't work14:43
jungleboyj#vote quick14:43
rosmaita#vote quick14:43
whoami-rajat__#vote quick14:43
eharney#vote quick14:43
lseki#vote quick14:43
rosmaitageguileo: e0ne: hemna: tosky: ^^ any opinions?14:44
geguileo#vote quick14:44
toskyno strong opinion (not sure whether to choose "don", "t" or "care"14:44
rosmaitalots of options there!14:45
e0ne#vote one more14:45
openstacke0ne: one more is not a valid option. Valid options are , quick, one, more, don, t, care, .14:45
e0ne#vote "one more"14:45
openstacke0ne: "one more" is not a valid option. Valid options are , quick, one, more, don, t, care, .14:45
e0nehm...14:45
rosmaitae0ne: i think just "one"14:45
rosmaitawe will know what you mean14:45
e0ne:)14:45
e0ne#vote one14:45
toskye0ne: so, do you have a specific reason for that?14:45
e0nejust to give operators more time in case if they are uses the same client for clouds with different versions14:46
rosmaitait's a fair point14:47
rosmaitai think they will be using the victoria client for a while, which has v2 support14:47
e0neI know, v3 is pretty old, but I know that  there are people who uses v2 only :(14:47
e0nerosmaita: +114:47
e0nemy vote won't win for sure14:47
rosmaitae0ne: about the "just use mv 3.0" argument ... how plausible is that?14:48
e0neI'm just trying to be fair14:48
rosmaitawhat i mean is, it's easy to say, in practice will it be easy?14:48
e0nerosmaita: it should be14:49
rosmaitaok14:49
rosmaitaany last votes?14:49
rosmaita#endvote14:50
openstackVoted on "python-cinderclient v2 support removal strategy?" Results are14:50
openstackquick (6): eharney, jungleboyj, lseki, whoami-rajat__, geguileo, rosmaita14:50
openstackone (1): e0ne14:50
rosmaitaok, i will send an announcement to the ML and see if there are any last minute complaints14:50
rosmaitaotherwise, looks like "quick" is the way to go14:50
rosmaita#topic Restricting the versions of Ceph that Cinder supports14:50
jungleboyjSounds good.14:50
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e0neat least, it will allow us to maintain less code :)14:51
rosmaitawe discussed this at the PTG, but in writing it up, i found a problem14:51
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-restrict-ceph-version14:51
rosmaitait has to do with the way the ceph and openstack release cycles are out of alignment14:51
rosmaitaat the PTG we said we would support Ceph project releases Plus one14:52
rosmaitaceph will release in March, just before us14:52
rosmaitawhich will put Mimic out of support14:52
rosmaitafrom our survey, some people are just now upgrading to Mimic14:52
rosmaitaso my question is, should we say: we support Ceph project releases Plus two ?14:53
eharneyare we counting from when cinder releases (the end of our cycle)?14:53
rosmaitayes14:53
rosmaitaso when we release W, ceph will only be supporting O and P14:54
eharneythen +2 sounds pretty ok to me, i think i was envisioning the +1 model counting from the beginning of our cycle before14:54
rosmaitame too14:54
rosmaitabut i think we need to count from release time14:55
eharneymakes sense14:55
rosmaitai have an action item from the PTG to write this up for the docs, i will go ahead and go with Ceph+2 and we can discuss further on the patch14:56
rosmaitathanks!14:56
jungleboyj++14:56
rosmaitaok, i will move the next topic to next week14:56
rosmaita#topic Open Discussion14:56
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rosmaitaanyone?14:57
rosmaitabtw, the Victoria Community Meeting is tomorrow14:58
rosmaita16:00 UTC14:58
rosmaitathough i realize that i have no connection information14:58
jungleboyjUgh.  How many meetings can I have at one time?  :-)14:59
rosmaitawell, that's all folks! have a good and productive rest of the week14:59
rosmaita#endmeeting15:00
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jungleboyjThanks!15:00
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amar7ibmHi ., team we support IBM drivers for cinder. We want to implement a feature i.e, MIGRATION FOR REPLICATED volumes . So Sean has suggested to give a blueprint regarding this.. As we are new to cinder any suggestions regarding the workflow would be great15:00
lsekiamar7ibm: please ask it again at #openstack-cinder, as this room will be used by another team15:02
amar7ibmThanks15:02
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