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rosmaita | #startmeeting cinder | 14:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 11 14:00:16 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:00 |
rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
whoami-rajat__ | Hi | 14:00 |
michael-mcaleer | Hi everyone | 14:00 |
TusharTgite | hi | 14:01 |
tosky | hi | 14:01 |
lseki | o/ | 14:01 |
e0ne | hi | 14:01 |
geguileo | hi! o/ | 14:01 |
rosmaita | looks like good turnout! | 14:01 |
eharney | hi | 14:01 |
jungleboyj | o/ | 14:02 |
zoharm | hi! | 14:02 |
rosmaita | #linkĀ https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-wallaby-meetings | 14:02 |
rosmaita | ok, let's get started | 14:02 |
rosmaita | #topic announcements | 14:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:02 | |
rosmaita | first thing: whoami-rajat has volunteered to be the release manager | 14:02 |
rosmaita | we will hear from him a bit later | 14:03 |
rosmaita | there are still roles available for people who want to get more involved in cinder | 14:03 |
rosmaita | see the Wallaby PTG summary on the wiki for details | 14:03 |
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rosmaita | second item: | 14:05 |
rosmaita | "consistent and secure" policy testing strategy still under discussion | 14:05 |
rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018636.html | 14:05 |
rosmaita | there's a link to the etherpad from yesterday's discussion in that email | 14:06 |
rosmaita | whoami-rajat__ and i both attended | 14:06 |
whoami-rajat__ | also tosky attended | 14:06 |
rosmaita | sorry ... how can i forget tosky ? | 14:06 |
rosmaita | tosky was there too | 14:06 |
tosky | it's totally possible | 14:06 |
rosmaita | tosky: you are ubiquitous | 14:07 |
rosmaita | the issue has to do whether full-on tempest api tests using the roles & scopes for the nine personas | 14:07 |
rosmaita | or some kind of unit or functional testing | 14:07 |
rosmaita | the problem is that we want the responses from keystone to be realistic | 14:08 |
rosmaita | on the other hand, we don't want to do a bunch of rechecks for extraneous failures | 14:08 |
rosmaita | so if you have suggestions or thoughts, please put them on the etherpad or attend the next meeting on monday | 14:08 |
rosmaita | (info in the email linked earlier) | 14:08 |
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rosmaita | final announcement is that as jungleboyj reported at the PTG, the TC is taking a "stance" on the openstackclient | 14:09 |
rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/759904/ | 14:09 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 14:09 |
rosmaita | has not yet been approved, so leave comments if you have opinions | 14:09 |
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rosmaita | there's no timeline on the proposal, it's just aspirational at this point | 14:10 |
rosmaita | i guess one more thing | 14:10 |
jungleboyj | Right. Just a note on that. | 14:10 |
jungleboyj | We know that it is going to be a heavy lift. | 14:11 |
jungleboyj | We aren't mandating things at the moment but we are making note that we need to start heading in that direction. | 14:11 |
jungleboyj | Everyone has been warned. ;-) | 14:11 |
rosmaita | ok, i still think they need to fix the 'openstack help' feature to make it usable, but that's just me | 14:13 |
eharney | how's the microversion stuff for osc going? | 14:13 |
rosmaita | one last point about the community goals for wallaby: the support-yaml-only-for-policy-files proposal is still under vote, so no action on that goal yet | 14:13 |
rosmaita | eharney: "it works for nova" | 14:13 |
eharney | ok, same as a few years ago then | 14:13 |
jungleboyj | eharney: Well, they say it is working. If it doesn't have what we need, then we need to let them know. | 14:13 |
jungleboyj | eharney: Yes. Same old same old. | 14:13 |
rosmaita | i have on my to-do list to check the mv support and then talk with someone on the osc team, and also tell them about python-brick-cinderclient-ext | 14:14 |
rosmaita | namely, that it needs to be supported | 14:14 |
rosmaita | that's all from me -- anyone have anything to announce? | 14:15 |
jungleboyj | rosmaita: Ok. So that is a good starting point. | 14:15 |
rosmaita | #topic Bug Review | 14:17 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Bug Review (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:17 | |
michael-mcaleer | thanks rosmaita | 14:17 |
rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-wallaby-r23-bug-overview | 14:17 |
michael-mcaleer | Wallaby R-23 bug review #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-wallaby-r23-bug-overview | 14:17 |
michael-mcaleer | 4 bugs opened this week, 3 in cinder and 1 in os-brick | 14:17 |
michael-mcaleer | cinder first | 14:17 |
michael-mcaleer | cinder-manage traceback on missing action https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1902852 | 14:17 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1902852 in Cinder "cinder-manage traceback on missing action" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Gorka Eguileor (gorka) | 14:17 |
michael-mcaleer | currently in progress | 14:18 |
michael-mcaleer | Running the cinder-manage command with a category but without an action will throw a Traceback. | 14:18 |
michael-mcaleer | $ cinder-manage backup | 14:18 |
michael-mcaleer | 2020-11-04 10:44:49.541 9465 ERROR cinder oslo_config.cfg.NoSuchOptError: no such option action_fn in group [DEFAULT] | 14:18 |
rosmaita | that's pretty ugly | 14:18 |
michael-mcaleer | any comments or happy to move onto second bug? | 14:19 |
whoami-rajat__ | there's already a fix upstream so looks good | 14:19 |
michael-mcaleer | agree, I had a look at the fix on Monday | 14:19 |
michael-mcaleer | second bug, NFS: Failed to extend volume after blockRebase | 14:20 |
michael-mcaleer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1903319 | 14:20 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1903319 in Cinder "nfs: failed to extend volume after blockRebase" [Undecided,Triaged] - Assigned to Rajat Dhasmana (whoami-rajat) | 14:20 |
michael-mcaleer | It fails with the following error in cinder-volume: | 14:20 |
michael-mcaleer | ERROR cinder.volume.manager [req-5f939fc7-f4a5-4f6a-9b70-6dcb52ee7f2e req-a2702c72-fc40-41df-a600-903a5293b898 admin None] Extend volume failed.: oslo_concurrency.processutils.ProcessExecutionError: Unexpected error while running command.Command: sudo cinder-rootwrap /etc/cinder/rootwrap.conf qemu-img resize /opt/stack/data/cinder/mnt/896fb15da6036b68a917322e72ebfe57/volume-2a351c27-abb0-4965-a16e-5378bd2c2afe 2G | 14:20 |
michael-mcaleer | Exit code: 1 | 14:20 |
michael-mcaleer | Stdout: '' | 14:20 |
michael-mcaleer | Stderr: "qemu-img: Could not open '/opt/stack/data/cinder/mnt/896fb15da6036b68a917322e72ebfe57/volume-2a351c27-abb0-4965-a16e-5378bd2c2afe': Could not open '/opt/stack/data/cinder/mnt/896fb15da6036b68a917322e72ebfe57/volume-2a351c27-abb0-4965-a16e-5378bd2c2afe': No such file or directory\n" | 14:20 |
michael-mcaleer | Currently only triaged | 14:20 |
whoami-rajat__ | I'm currently working on a fix for this, but this might be affecting more than just the extend operation | 14:20 |
whoami-rajat__ | lseki: also this might be affecting netapp nfs driver extend operation as well | 14:21 |
lseki | I'll try to reproduce it | 14:21 |
michael-mcaleer | any further comments or happy to move onto third and last cinder bug? | 14:22 |
rosmaita | keep on moving! | 14:22 |
michael-mcaleer | VNX: LUN allocation owner issue #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1903500 | 14:22 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1903500 in Cinder "VNX: LUN allocation owner issue" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Yong Huang (yonghuang) | 14:22 |
michael-mcaleer | driver specific bug here for DellEMC VNX | 14:22 |
michael-mcaleer | currently in progress | 14:22 |
michael-mcaleer | ill move onto os-brick now as thats well covered by driver owner | 14:23 |
michael-mcaleer | NVMe not flushing on disconnect #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-brick/+bug/1903032 | 14:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1903032 in os-brick "NVMe not flushing on disconnect" [Undecided,New] | 14:23 |
rosmaita | very nice that these all have people working on them already | 14:23 |
rosmaita | that seems like it should be high priority | 14:23 |
michael-mcaleer | yeah I was going to discuss this at the end about priority/importance | 14:23 |
michael-mcaleer | good example here | 14:24 |
rosmaita | sorry, did not mean to get ahead of you | 14:24 |
jungleboyj | I think that bug came out of discussion at the PTG. | 14:24 |
michael-mcaleer | it did yeah | 14:24 |
jungleboyj | Wasn't someone from the new Vendor that joined looking at that? | 14:24 |
geguileo | yeah, I found that one while preparing for the PTG | 14:24 |
michael-mcaleer | I also cannot set the state to traiged | 14:24 |
michael-mcaleer | jungleboyj: yes he was discussing this | 14:25 |
rosmaita | oh, maybe your cinder permissions don't apply to os-brick space in launchpad | 14:25 |
michael-mcaleer | we were watching it in the powermax team also | 14:25 |
rosmaita | i will look into that after the meeting | 14:25 |
michael-mcaleer | rosmaita: I can change it to anything apart from triaged or wont fix oddly | 14:25 |
whoami-rajat__ | I'm also not able to set it to triaged | 14:25 |
michael-mcaleer | we can sort that out later, might impact a number of people | 14:26 |
michael-mcaleer | thats all the bugs that came in this week, housekeeping only has one point and that was on bug importance/priority | 14:26 |
rosmaita | #action rosmaita look into bug permissions for cinder-related projects in launchpad | 14:27 |
michael-mcaleer | should bug supervisor set this or should we reach consensus each week on the new bugs and their importance at these meetings | 14:27 |
rosmaita | i think set the ones you' | 14:27 |
rosmaita | re sure about and we can discuss ones you are not sure about | 14:27 |
michael-mcaleer | sounds good to me | 14:27 |
rosmaita | thank you! | 14:27 |
jungleboyj | ++ | 14:27 |
michael-mcaleer | thats all I have rosmaita | 14:27 |
rosmaita | ok, next up is releases | 14:28 |
rosmaita | #topic stable releases | 14:28 |
*** openstack changes topic to "stable releases (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:28 | |
whoami-rajat__ | Hi | 14:28 |
whoami-rajat__ | as you can see we've planned a release on Nov 15 which doesn't seem possible as there are a lot of unmerged patches in all branches | 14:28 |
whoami-rajat__ | #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+series | 14:28 |
whoami-rajat__ | the stable releases are for victoria, ussuri and train | 14:29 |
whoami-rajat__ | I've mentioned the links to branches where we have open patches, other branches doesn't have release specific patches (like one in cinderlib train related to pep8 gate fix) | 14:29 |
whoami-rajat__ | also I've prepared a summary for all open patches | 14:30 |
whoami-rajat__ | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/stable-releases-review-tracker | 14:30 |
whoami-rajat__ | It's still not complete for train as I haven't looked at all patches there | 14:30 |
whoami-rajat__ | My current query is, when can we plan a stable release and then merge patches accordingly | 14:31 |
whoami-rajat__ | (Also there are 2 feature backports in ussuri that we can abandon) | 14:31 |
rosmaita | let's aim for 26 November | 14:31 |
whoami-rajat__ | ok, works for me | 14:32 |
rosmaita | ok, so stable-maint-cores, please look at rajat's etherpad at your convenience | 14:32 |
jungleboyj | Can do. | 14:33 |
rosmaita | and if you see any bad backports, please note them on the etherpad | 14:33 |
whoami-rajat__ | I will complete the train patches list today EOD | 14:33 |
rosmaita | "bad" == not appropriate to backport | 14:33 |
rosmaita | whoami-rajat__: thank you for your work on this | 14:33 |
whoami-rajat__ | sure, np | 14:34 |
rosmaita | ok, on to the main part of our show | 14:34 |
rosmaita | #topic removing Block Storage API v2 support from python-cinderclient | 14:34 |
*** openstack changes topic to "removing Block Storage API v2 support from python-cinderclient (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:34 | |
rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/python-cinderclient-v2-support-removal | 14:34 |
rosmaita | we had an initial discussion last week | 14:34 |
rosmaita | decided to put an announcement to the ML for comments | 14:35 |
rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018531.html | 14:35 |
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rosmaita | and there were no comments ... so looks like it's up to us | 14:35 |
rosmaita | the contenders are the "quick" and "one more" strategies | 14:35 |
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rosmaita | any discussion, or have people thought about this and just want to vote? | 14:36 |
rosmaita | (i will wait a few minutes while people look at the options again in the etherpad) | 14:37 |
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rosmaita | ok, i cannot keep my mouth shut ... my thought is that ordinarily i would not be in favor of "quick", but since you can pin your v3 requests to use mv 3.0, you get back the v2 responses and won't have to change scripts immediately | 14:40 |
rosmaita | so i am leaning toward "quick" | 14:40 |
rosmaita | either i am disconnected or nobody cares about this issue | 14:41 |
jungleboyj | I don't have a strong feeling. Quick is fine if we haven't gotten any response. | 14:41 |
rosmaita | jungleboyj: ty! | 14:42 |
rosmaita | ok, let's vote | 14:42 |
rosmaita | #startvote python-cinderclient v2 support removal strategy? "quick", "one more", "don't care" | 14:42 |
openstack | Begin voting on: python-cinderclient v2 support removal strategy? Valid vote options are , quick, one, more, don, t, care, . | 14:42 |
openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 14:42 |
rosmaita | apparently the quotation marks don't work | 14:43 |
jungleboyj | #vote quick | 14:43 |
rosmaita | #vote quick | 14:43 |
whoami-rajat__ | #vote quick | 14:43 |
eharney | #vote quick | 14:43 |
lseki | #vote quick | 14:43 |
rosmaita | geguileo: e0ne: hemna: tosky: ^^ any opinions? | 14:44 |
geguileo | #vote quick | 14:44 |
tosky | no strong opinion (not sure whether to choose "don", "t" or "care" | 14:44 |
rosmaita | lots of options there! | 14:45 |
e0ne | #vote one more | 14:45 |
openstack | e0ne: one more is not a valid option. Valid options are , quick, one, more, don, t, care, . | 14:45 |
e0ne | #vote "one more" | 14:45 |
openstack | e0ne: "one more" is not a valid option. Valid options are , quick, one, more, don, t, care, . | 14:45 |
e0ne | hm... | 14:45 |
rosmaita | e0ne: i think just "one" | 14:45 |
rosmaita | we will know what you mean | 14:45 |
e0ne | :) | 14:45 |
e0ne | #vote one | 14:45 |
tosky | e0ne: so, do you have a specific reason for that? | 14:45 |
e0ne | just to give operators more time in case if they are uses the same client for clouds with different versions | 14:46 |
rosmaita | it's a fair point | 14:47 |
rosmaita | i think they will be using the victoria client for a while, which has v2 support | 14:47 |
e0ne | I know, v3 is pretty old, but I know that there are people who uses v2 only :( | 14:47 |
e0ne | rosmaita: +1 | 14:47 |
e0ne | my vote won't win for sure | 14:47 |
rosmaita | e0ne: about the "just use mv 3.0" argument ... how plausible is that? | 14:48 |
e0ne | I'm just trying to be fair | 14:48 |
rosmaita | what i mean is, it's easy to say, in practice will it be easy? | 14:48 |
e0ne | rosmaita: it should be | 14:49 |
rosmaita | ok | 14:49 |
rosmaita | any last votes? | 14:49 |
rosmaita | #endvote | 14:50 |
openstack | Voted on "python-cinderclient v2 support removal strategy?" Results are | 14:50 |
openstack | quick (6): eharney, jungleboyj, lseki, whoami-rajat__, geguileo, rosmaita | 14:50 |
openstack | one (1): e0ne | 14:50 |
rosmaita | ok, i will send an announcement to the ML and see if there are any last minute complaints | 14:50 |
rosmaita | otherwise, looks like "quick" is the way to go | 14:50 |
rosmaita | #topic Restricting the versions of Ceph that Cinder supports | 14:50 |
jungleboyj | Sounds good. | 14:50 |
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e0ne | at least, it will allow us to maintain less code :) | 14:51 |
rosmaita | we discussed this at the PTG, but in writing it up, i found a problem | 14:51 |
rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-restrict-ceph-version | 14:51 |
rosmaita | it has to do with the way the ceph and openstack release cycles are out of alignment | 14:51 |
rosmaita | at the PTG we said we would support Ceph project releases Plus one | 14:52 |
rosmaita | ceph will release in March, just before us | 14:52 |
rosmaita | which will put Mimic out of support | 14:52 |
rosmaita | from our survey, some people are just now upgrading to Mimic | 14:52 |
rosmaita | so my question is, should we say: we support Ceph project releases Plus two ? | 14:53 |
eharney | are we counting from when cinder releases (the end of our cycle)? | 14:53 |
rosmaita | yes | 14:53 |
rosmaita | so when we release W, ceph will only be supporting O and P | 14:54 |
eharney | then +2 sounds pretty ok to me, i think i was envisioning the +1 model counting from the beginning of our cycle before | 14:54 |
rosmaita | me too | 14:54 |
rosmaita | but i think we need to count from release time | 14:55 |
eharney | makes sense | 14:55 |
rosmaita | i have an action item from the PTG to write this up for the docs, i will go ahead and go with Ceph+2 and we can discuss further on the patch | 14:56 |
rosmaita | thanks! | 14:56 |
jungleboyj | ++ | 14:56 |
rosmaita | ok, i will move the next topic to next week | 14:56 |
rosmaita | #topic Open Discussion | 14:56 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:56 | |
rosmaita | anyone? | 14:57 |
rosmaita | btw, the Victoria Community Meeting is tomorrow | 14:58 |
rosmaita | 16:00 UTC | 14:58 |
rosmaita | though i realize that i have no connection information | 14:58 |
jungleboyj | Ugh. How many meetings can I have at one time? :-) | 14:59 |
rosmaita | well, that's all folks! have a good and productive rest of the week | 14:59 |
rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 11 15:00:01 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-11-11-14.00.html | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-11-11-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-11-11-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
jungleboyj | Thanks! | 15:00 |
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amar7ibm | Hi ., team we support IBM drivers for cinder. We want to implement a feature i.e, MIGRATION FOR REPLICATED volumes . So Sean has suggested to give a blueprint regarding this.. As we are new to cinder any suggestions regarding the workflow would be great | 15:00 |
lseki | amar7ibm: please ask it again at #openstack-cinder, as this room will be used by another team | 15:02 |
amar7ibm | Thanks | 15:02 |
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