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| gouthamr | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 12 15:01:34 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| carloss | o/ | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | courtesy ping: ganso vkmc dviroel lseki tbarron andrebeltrami felipe_rodrigues | 15:01 |
| carthaca | hi | 15:01 |
| vhari | hi | 15:02 |
| vkmc | hi | 15:02 |
| maaritamm | o/ | 15:02 |
| dviroel | o/ | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | hello o/ | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | thanks for joining, lets get going | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
| gouthamr | first off, vhari has posted a notification to openstack-discuss regarding next week's bug squash event | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018629.html (bug squash on 19th Nov 2020, no IRC meeting) | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | we will be hosting a sync-up call in the place of this irc meeting on that day | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | so please bookmark the call URL: | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | #link https://meetpad.opendev.org/ManilaW-ReleaseBugSquash (Jitsi room for the bugsquash) | 15:05 |
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| gouthamr | and do take a look at the list of bugs that have been put together - many of them are assigned, and have been looked at at some point in the past | 15:05 |
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| gouthamr | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/birpr9a6bd0b (bug list for the bug squash) | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | vhari's added bugs here that have been ascertained to need api/db changes; something we were uncomfortable doing during the last bug squash event | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | so we can use the sync call to discuss any of these bugs, and brainstorm | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | i'm hoping you can all make it and we have a successful bug squash! :) | 15:08 |
| vhari | ty gouthamr . pls feel free to flag any other candidate bugs for the event | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | ^ +1, if there's some bug you're looking to tackle, please bring it (or add it to the ethecalc above) | 15:09 |
| vkmc | +1 | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | ty for planning this vhari :) | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | alright, any questions/concerns? | 15:10 |
| vhari | gouthamr, yw .. excited to squash some bugs together :) | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | great! | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | next up, we have an OpenStack community meeting today, at 1600 UTC | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018646.html (OpenStack Community Meeting on Nov 12, 1600 UTC) | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | we should expect to see some Victoria project updates, and have a general Q&A session | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | so please join in if you can! | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | and finally, maaritamm has posted a prioritized list of OSC commands that are left | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018633.html (Priorities for implementing the OSC share commands) | 15:13 |
| vkmc | maaritamm++ | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | i'd like for us to take a look at this list, and do share your views on the priority of commands for implementation | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | as we know this has been a multi-cycle effort for us, and the committer/reviewer bandwidth is limited - so having a priority hugely helps! | 15:16 |
| vkmc | there are a few patches up for review already | 15:16 |
| vkmc | :) | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | she's super fast! maaritamm++ | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | great, that's a wrap on announcements for today, anyone else got any | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | ? | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | alright, excuse me while i make an ad hoc topic | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | #topic No remaining IRC meetings in November | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "No remaining IRC meetings in November (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:19 | |
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| gouthamr | So, as mentioned prior, the next IRC meeting on 19th Nov has been canceled and we'll be meeting on a Jitsi call instead | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | the week after that is a holiday week, at least here in the US - and i wanted to ask if we should go ahead and take a break | 15:21 |
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| gouthamr | (and possibly other countries) | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | are there any concerns with taking this break? | 15:22 |
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| carloss | ++ for the break :) | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | ty carloss, the only thing i can think of is that milestone-1 is the week after | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | we have no release deliverables, but, it's a bug fix milestone | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | so if folks want to talk about bugs, we'd have to do that on #openstack-manila or the openstack-discuss mailing list | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | alright, lets take an AI | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | #action gouthamr will send an email to openstack-discuss canceling the two IRC meetings remaining in Nov | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | we've run through the agenda pretty much, lets move down our regular schedule | 15:29 |
| gouthamr | #topic Bugs (vhari) | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (vhari) (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:29 | |
| gouthamr | back to you, vhari :) | 15:29 |
| vhari | gouthamr, we have a number of new bugs on our radar to triage today! | 15:29 |
| vhari | first off .. | 15:30 |
| vhari | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1904015 | 15:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1904015 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Manila overwrite existing Ceph users" [Undecided,New] | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | oh this one comes from the openstack-discuss list | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018684.html (Manila user overwriting existing Ceph users) | 15:30 |
| vhari | ack .. | 15:30 |
| vkmc | interesting | 15:31 |
| gouthamr | and a pretty ugly bug, since a user can break other services | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | if they can discover the cephx user used to configure these services | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | vhari: i can investigate this bug and respond | 15:34 |
| vhari | gouthamr, sounds good .. | 15:34 |
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| gouthamr | i think we can set this to medium, and bump up the severity if we can confirm it does indeed mess with the infrastructure | 15:35 |
| vkmc | sounds good | 15:35 |
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| vkmc | not sure if this should be handled in ceph side or in manila side | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | good point, i think we do some evictions and denials in the driver today based on things we know shouldn't work | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | i'll do some more digging and we can talk, vkmc | 15:37 |
| vkmc | gouthamr, cool | 15:37 |
| vhari | cool, moving on | 15:37 |
| vhari | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1903922 | 15:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1903922 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Generic driver fails CIFS online extension test " [Undecided,New] | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | ah i reported this one, and the rca isn't complete | 15:38 |
| vhari | gouthamr, ack and you posted repro config | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | my bad on the timing here - i enabled cifs testing in the generic driver a while ago, and we merged the patch with this failure | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | right now, it also blocks upgrading the CI job to focal fossa | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/762218/ ([ci] Switch generic driver job to focal fossa) | 15:40 |
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| gouthamr | i can keep this in my backlog and work on it opportunistically since we don't have any dedicated generic driver maintainers | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | but, if anyone's willing to help - i'd more than appreciate it! | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | share extensions in the generic driver are disruptive and clients may need to remount depending on how long cinder takes to perform the extension and if the client has a hard mount, and we're able to complete the whole transaction within their stale mount timeout | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | s/are disruptive/can be disruptive | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | so we might have a workaround - i'll test it and post it on the bug | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | for triage though, i think this is a medium and it's not user reported - likely this is something that breaks only on our CI | 15:46 |
| vhari | gouthamr, done .. | 15:47 |
| gouthamr | ty vhari | 15:48 |
| vhari | we have time to look at one more new bug .. | 15:48 |
| vhari | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1900752 | 15:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1900752 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "cifs without security service error not helpful" [Undecided,New] | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | hmmm, this is a tricky one | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | it's really up to the drivers if CIFS shares support security services | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | Generic, Windows and HPE for instance can work without it (Generic doesn't support security services yet) | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | ONTAP and the Dell/EMC drivers *need* Active Directory | 15:50 |
| vkmc | agree though that the error message should be more helpful | 15:50 |
| carloss | vkmc ++ | 15:50 |
| vkmc | "create: An unknown error occurred." is very... shady | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | def agree that this can be signalled with a user message, maybe we can make it generic and have the drivers raise a particular exception | 15:50 |
| vkmc | not sure where it is raised | 15:51 |
| * gouthamr overuses the word generic | 15:51 | |
| vkmc | and if we have enough info to craft a better user message for this error | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | i don't think we currently do - backends seem to be raising a ShareBackendException of sorts and the share manager is logging the information | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | we could prevent share creation if we had this info prior - but, the api service doesn't know which specific backend's going to get the request | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | anyone willing to take a look at this and see what can be done? since it affects netapp, dell/emc and possibly other vendor backends afaict, i think this should be a medium priority bug at least | 15:57 |
| carloss | I can take a look and find some options | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | ty carloss | 15:57 |
| carloss | then I can bring the options to the table and we can discuss them | 15:58 |
| carloss | yw :) | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | ++ | 15:58 |
| vhari | carloss++ | 15:58 |
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| vhari | gouthamr, all caught up triaging new bugs ... thx all for participating :) | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | thank you vhari! | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | #topic Open Discussion | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:58 | |
| gouthamr | we have all of two minutes :) | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | any final thoughts? | 15:59 |
| vkmc | I'm thought-less | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | :D alright, thank you all for attending - hope you can make it to the community meeting that's happening next, and the manila bugsquash event next week | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | lets take further thoughts to #openstack-manila | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 12 16:00:14 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-11-12-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-11-12-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-11-12-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
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