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| carloss | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Nov 30 15:00:41 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carloss. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| carthaca | hi | 15:00 |
| jayaanand | hi | 15:00 |
| gireesh | hi | 15:00 |
| vhari | hi | 15:01 |
| carloss | courtesy ping: vkmc dviroelvhari gouthamr msaravan pulluri | 15:01 |
| carloss | s/dviroelvhari/dviroel | 15:01 |
| msaravan | hi | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | hello o/ | 15:02 |
| haixin | o/ | 15:02 |
| ashrodri | o/ | 15:02 |
| dviroel | o/ | 15:03 |
| carloss | o/ hello everyone and welcome! | 15:04 |
| carloss | hope everyone that had the last week's break had time to recharge the batteries and have a good time :D | 15:05 |
| carloss | today's meeting agenda: | 15:05 |
| carloss | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:05 |
| carloss | first topic: | 15:07 |
| carloss | #topic Announcements | 15:07 |
| carloss | Schedule and deadlines | 15:07 |
| carloss | #link https://releases.openstack.org/caracal/schedule.html | 15:07 |
| carloss | so we're just past m1 | 15:09 |
| carloss | and we have been working on the specs and reviews | 15:11 |
| carloss | and getting started with the development of some features | 15:11 |
| carloss | i am planning to do some launchpad cleanup today/tomorrow | 15:12 |
| carloss | but I think our focus now should mostly be on the specs and the bugs and features we are planning to implement during this cycle | 15:12 |
| carloss | and I have finally proposed the manila-specific deadlines to the schedule: | 15:14 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/902305 | 15:14 |
| carloss | I had this change ready in the beginning of the week but forgot to send it to gerrit | 15:15 |
| carloss | some dates we don't have yet are: our traditional hackathon and bugsquash for this cycle | 15:15 |
| carloss | the bugsquash I was thinking of doing it towards the end of the release | 15:16 |
| carloss | do you have any thoughts on this? | 15:17 |
| ashrodri | do we have a "theme" for the hackathon? | 15:18 |
| carloss | I don't think so yet... we could focus on tech debt but that would make it three in a row, so maybe we could try something different | 15:19 |
| vhari | based on bug stats, it's a good time for another review based bugsquash | 15:19 |
| vhari | the bugsquash could be a combination of these themes | 15:19 |
| carloss | ah, true vhari - maybe we can do the bugsquash earlier in the cycle? | 15:20 |
| carloss | so bugs will be shipping within this release | 15:20 |
| carloss | as in the previous one, most bugs ended up slipping to the next release | 15:20 |
| vhari | that would be a good idea, there are 32 in-progress bugs | 15:21 |
| vhari | 30% of which targeted caracal-1 | 15:22 |
| carloss | awesome! maybe right after m-2 is a good idea? | 15:23 |
| carloss | ~Jan 15 | 15:23 |
| carloss | wdyt? | 15:23 |
| vhari | +1 | 15:23 |
| carloss | ack, I'll add that to the releases patch I just sent | 15:24 |
| vhari | awesome ty carloss :) | 15:25 |
| carloss | alright, one more thing for announcements: | 15:25 |
| carloss | np, ty vhari :D | 15:25 |
| carloss | I'd like to cancel the next week's meeting, as I'll be unable to attend, and we'll have some people from the audience on PTO | 15:26 |
| carloss | it feels like we've been cancelling a lot of meetings lately, but I think we're just unlucky with this year's calendar | 15:26 |
| * gouthamr late, but acks the jan 15th bugsquash idea | 15:26 | |
| vhari | carlos also a late cycle mini-bugsquash (time permitting) themed "stale bugs" would help reduce the backlog | 15:27 |
| carloss | vhari++ yeah, we can do that too | 15:28 |
| vhari | mini-bugsquash would include less bugs, and hence requires less capacity | 15:29 |
| carloss | ++, maybe rc1 week or the week after? | 15:30 |
| carloss | as I assume most of the development will be done | 15:30 |
| vhari | that would be awesome carloss++ | 15:30 |
| carloss | ack, I'll propose the changes | 15:31 |
| carloss | that's all I had for announcements. Do you have an announcement to share with us today? | 15:31 |
| carloss | taking silence as no | 15:33 |
| carloss | #topic Review Focus: backports | 15:33 |
| carloss | before we focus on the backports: | 15:33 |
| carloss | I'l like to request some reviews to the ongoing specs: | 15:34 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/898999 Add spec for share encryption | 15:34 |
| carloss | and | 15:34 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/901700 Add spec for share/share-snapshot deferred deletion | 15:35 |
| carloss | ashrodri msaravan jayaanand haixin gireesh: can I have your eyes on the specs? :D | 15:35 |
| jayaanand | ok | 15:36 |
| carloss | awesome! thank you very much | 15:37 |
| carloss | sorry I hijacked some time | 15:37 |
| carloss | gouthamr: would you like to get started with $topic? :) | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | sure thing carloss | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | lets start with the fact that we're transitioning several open branches to EOL, and several to "unmaintained" status as we shared last meeting | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20230724-unmaintained-branches.html (TC resolution - 2023-07-24 Unmaintained status replaces Extended Maintenance) | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | we've always strived to backport things with adequate testing.. but, these backports have been languishing for a while without attention.. | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | thanks carloss haixin dviroel for taking a look .. i wanted to see if we can do a small review jam and get the remaining ones moving | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | 2023.2 and 2023.1 seem better, and we'll _maintain_ these for a little bit | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/manila+status:open+branch:stable/zed (Zed) | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/manila+status:open+branch:stable/yoga (Yoga) | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/manila+status:open+branch:stable/yoga (Xena) | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/manila+status:open+branch:stable/wallaby (Wallaby) | 15:41 |
| carloss | > i wanted to see if we can do a small review jam and get the remaining ones moving | 15:42 |
| carloss | absolutely! and thanks for bringing this up gouthamr | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | it'd be a great deal of help if we can clean these remaining ones out.. | 15:43 |
| msaravan | I'll abandon my patch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/892402 as it is not valid for Wallaby; | 15:43 |
| gouthamr | cool stuff msaravan | 15:44 |
| msaravan | Thank you for catching it goutham. Thorough review you did, and it reduced the impact on wallaby. | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | you're welcome.. | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | i think it'd make the job a whole lot easier for carloss dviroel haixin and myself if there were more eyes on the other changes :) i think if CI has been passing, and there's no -1s, we can go ahead and merge many of these | 15:46 |
| gouthamr | the +1s ofcourse will give us confidence | 15:47 |
| carloss | ++ | 15:48 |
| carloss | so do you feel we should work on review assignments or do things more proactively? | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | i think we can do assignments with the cores | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | the rest can be opportunistic/proactive i think.. | 15:52 |
| carloss | ack | 15:52 |
| carloss | +1 | 15:53 |
| gouthamr | vendor driver changes in particular will need +1s, or they may not be appropriate to merge i think | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | i.e., i wouldn't have the confidence that something works well, especially because we have poor CI coverage for these stable branches | 15:54 |
| carloss | yeah, I agree | 15:54 |
| carloss | and I think almost half of the changes are touching 3rd party drivers | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | +1 | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | that's all i had, thank you carloss | 15:58 |
| carloss | so we can assign some third party reviewers and you can assign other people to the changes | 15:58 |
| carloss | and we can work with the stable branch cores to merge the remaining changes in the next couple of weeks | 15:58 |
| carloss | thank you for bringing this up, gouthamr | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | ++ | 15:59 |
| carloss | I believe that's all I had for $topic too | 15:59 |
| carloss | we're at the top of the hour | 15:59 |
| carloss | sorry for not having time for bug triaging vhari - we can get back to the stale bug in two weeks time | 15:59 |
| carloss | but if there's something pressing, please let us know | 15:59 |
| carloss | how does that sound? :) | 15:59 |
| vhari | np carloss .. there were no new bugs to triage this week :) | 15:59 |
| carloss | ack vhari, ty :D | 16:00 |
| carloss | thank you for joining folks! | 16:00 |
| carloss | see you on #openstack-manila | 16:00 |
| carloss | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Nov 30 16:00:22 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2023/manila.2023-11-30-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2023/manila.2023-11-30-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/manila/2023/manila.2023-11-30-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | thanks carloss | 16:00 |
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