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| dendrobates | o/ | 21:58 |
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| dendrobates | hello everyone | 21:59 |
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| eperdomo | hello! | 21:59 |
| ewanmellor | o/ | 21:59 |
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| ewanmellor | I am Substitute Salvatore today. | 22:00 |
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| dendrobates | ewanmellor: have you moved yet? | 22:00 |
| ewanmellor | Yep, two weeks ago. | 22:00 |
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| dendrobates | is danwent here? | 22:01 |
| dendrobates | Let's wait a couple of minutes for people to show up | 22:01 |
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| dendrobates | #startmeeting | 22:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 1 22:03:26 2011 UTC. The chair is dendrobates. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 22:03 |
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| dendrobates | no one updated the agenda, so we will just wing it this week | 22:03 |
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| dendrobates | #topic old business | 22:04 |
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| dendrobates | did the data extension discussion conclude last week? | 22:04 |
| dendrobates | or do we still need to discuss it? | 22:04 |
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| dendrobates | hi dan | 22:05 |
| dendrobates | did the data extension discussion conclude last week? | 22:05 |
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| dendrobates | ying: you were part of that, did it conclude to your satisfaction? | 22:06 |
| dendrobates | is anyone else here | 22:07 |
| ying | Yes, I think our conclusion is that we will keep core simple and do PortProfile in extension now. | 22:07 |
| dendrobates | good | 22:07 |
| dendrobates | ying: is that acceptable for your needs | 22:07 |
| ying | yes | 22:07 |
| dendrobates | great | 22:08 |
| dendrobates | was there anything else from that meeting that we need to come back to? | 22:08 |
| ying | I have a question, we will have a some code skeleton available for core api soon, right? | 22:08 |
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| dendrobates | ying: for quantum? | 22:08 |
| danwent | hi folks | 22:09 |
| danwent | am i online | 22:09 |
| danwent | I am wondering around the airport trying to get a decent signal | 22:09 |
| danwent | anyone? | 22:09 |
| ying | yes | 22:09 |
| danwent | can you see me? | 22:09 |
| danwent | hello? | 22:09 |
| dendrobates | wow dan | 22:09 |
| ying | dan: yes | 22:09 |
| dendrobates | danwent: all came through at once | 22:09 |
| danwent | yes, quantum poc code will be soon. | 22:09 |
| dendrobates | ying: I think the midokura/NTT work is the basis of that | 22:10 |
| danwent | sorry, probably my lossy connection :) | 22:10 |
| ecarlin | you need infiniband wifi :-) | 22:10 |
| danwent | ying: salvatore just got us API code, so we're going to be able to have an end-to-end system available by next week, i suspect | 22:10 |
| ewanmellor | Salvatore said that he's pushed code already. | 22:10 |
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| danwent | :) | 22:10 |
| danwent | yes, salvatore's code looks good, so i think we're in good shape | 22:11 |
| dendrobates | #topic quantum updates | 22:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "quantum updates" | 22:11 | |
| dendrobates | danwent: any other updates | 22:11 |
| ying | danwent: thanks | 22:11 |
| danwent | we're going to throw together some more unit tests, the cli utility to drive the API | 22:11 |
| danwent | in a couple days things should be ready for an initial review. | 22:11 |
| ying | danwent: is Salvatore's code available online? | 22:11 |
| danwent | ying: yes, let me grab URL | 22:12 |
| ewanmellor | danwent: What's the plan for system testing (if any)? | 22:12 |
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| danwent | somik, brad, are you there? my connection is slow and pages are not loading. can you send out salvatore's latest link? | 22:13 |
| danwent | ying: otherwise, we can email it to you tonight. | 22:13 |
| danwent | I am propping my laptop up on a southwest ticket counter right now :) | 22:13 |
| danwent | trying to get a decent signal | 22:13 |
| bhall | ying: https://code.launchpad.net/~netstack/network-service/quantum-api-workinprogress | 22:13 |
| ying | danwent: thanks | 22:13 |
| dendrobates | any other quantum updates before we move on? | 22:13 |
| dendrobates | #topic donabe updates | 22:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "donabe updates" | 22:14 | |
| dendrobates | I am working on the Donabe draft API | 22:14 |
| dendrobates | If I can get approval, I will send it out for review. | 22:15 |
| dendrobates | It is based on existing work at Cisco, so there is hurdle to jump | 22:15 |
| dendrobates | speaking of which... | 22:15 |
| dendrobates | We have made progress on opening the cisco floodgates | 22:15 |
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| danwent | sorry guys, dropped off signal again. Anyone seeing this? | 22:16 |
| danwent | ewan: let's chat later. I can't keep a decent signal here. short answer: we'll be doing some, but help is definitely appreciated. | 22:16 |
| dendrobates | we should soon be clear for devs like ying to start pushing their work | 22:16 |
| ewanmellor_ | danwent: OK | 22:16 |
| ewanmellor_ | I just dropped off myself (coffee shop in SF) | 22:17 |
| dendrobates | is anyone here to talk about melange? | 22:17 |
| troytoman | i can provide some updates | 22:18 |
| dendrobates | #topic melange update | 22:18 |
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| ewanmellor_ | ying: https://code.launchpad.net/~netstack/network-service/quantum-api-workinprogress is the code you asked for. | 22:18 |
| troytoman | we have some base functionality for setting up blocks/allocating IPs etc. | 22:18 |
| ying | ewanmellor_: thanks | 22:18 |
| troytoman | it is currently in a branch on launchpad, i'll try to get an API draft and branch location out soon | 22:18 |
| dendrobates | troytoman: awesome, thanks | 22:19 |
| troytoman | our next steps are to look at the network refactoring and muti-nic and how we start to integrate with Nova | 22:19 |
| dendrobates | #topic open discussion | 22:20 |
| danwent | dendrobates: looking forward to draft. | 22:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion" | 22:20 | |
| danwent | webex? | 22:20 |
| dendrobates | So, I can setup any webex meetings that anyone wants. | 22:20 |
| ryu_ishimoto | I started a branch for refactoring: http://code.launchpad.net/~midokura/nova/network-refactoring | 22:20 |
| dendrobates | I can will try to get a netstack account that I can share with thte group | 22:20 |
| danwent | If others are ok with it, I would like to at least give webex a try. | 22:21 |
| dendrobates | that way anyone can call a webex meeting. | 22:21 |
| jamesurquhart | dendrobates: You should talk to Chris Hoff. He uses WebEx for CloudAudit calls. | 22:21 |
| danwent | ryu: thanks. how does this compare to the original branch? | 22:21 |
| dendrobates | danwent: I think it will be good for somethings, but it can be difficult for people for whom english is a 2nd or 3rd language | 22:21 |
| danwent | (original ntt/midokura branch) | 22:21 |
| danwent | dendrobates: true | 22:22 |
| dendrobates | jamesurquhart: great, I'll ping beaker | 22:22 |
| ryu_ishimoto | danwent: It's a lot less disruptive after discussing with Vish and Trey how we should approach the refactoring | 22:22 |
| danwent | on webex, I am in favor of at least giving it a try. | 22:22 |
| ryu_ishimoto | still need to discuss further with quantum/ipam/multi-nic to finalize the approach, however | 22:22 |
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| danwent | ryu: ok, i will take a look. | 22:22 |
| danwent | ewan :) | 22:23 |
| ryu_ishimoto | danwent: thanks | 22:23 |
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| dendrobates | ewanmellor: :) | 22:23 |
| jamesurquhart | ewanmellor_: We can draft a custody agreement. Alternate weeks and two months each summer. ;) | 22:23 |
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| danwent | james: :) | 22:24 |
| dendrobates | btw, I am in the valley this week if anyone wants to have a netstack meetup | 22:24 |
| danwent | dendrobates: I am back tomorrow. will send email. | 22:25 |
| dendrobates | wow we can have a meeting in record time, if no one can stay connected. | 22:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | I would like to bring up the topic of semantics of "attach" in quantum for discussion | 22:25 |
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| danwent | :) | 22:25 |
| dendrobates | SumitNaiksatam: go ahead | 22:25 |
| danwent | sumit: yes, that is a great email thread. | 22:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we had a discussion Dan and myself over emails | 22:25 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Dan: did you get a chance to read my last email wherein refered to the 802.1Qbh configuration? | 22:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hoping that others got a chance to think about this as well? | 22:26 |
| danwent | sumit: i have been meaning to respond via email, but have been in meetings the past two days with travel. | 22:26 |
| danwent | sumit: i have some follow-up questions for you. but short answer is we definitely need a way for vntag/vepa to work. | 22:26 |
| danwent | sumit: I actually think it fits into the model in general, though I am not sure about some libvirt specifics. | 22:26 |
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| danwent | particularly that "profile" attribute was not in the main libvirt docs. | 22:27 |
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| danwent | I can't load web pages right now, so I will have to provide more details later :) | 22:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok | 22:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the point being that there is some information which needs to go into the libvirt "interface" configuration which, we think, should come from quantum | 22:27 |
| danwent | sumit: generally, i am curious how the profile attribute compares to the XML that I sent out (with the instanceid, etc.) | 22:28 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | in this case it happens to be the "port-profile" | 22:28 |
| ewanmellor | Why is libvirt relevant, in a discussion about vntag? The VMware nova backend uses the VIM API directly. | 22:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dan: profileid is a separate attribute | 22:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ewan: we are not referring to ESX | 22:29 |
| danwent | sumit: sometimes libvirt can be a bit of a pain as it tries to perform both compute + network orchestration. If we can't work around it, we'll have to figure out someway for nova to get that info from quantum, but I think that breaks the general model that quantum can change the network connectivity without nova's help. | 22:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dan: yes, thats precisely the reason I wanted to have this discussion | 22:29 |
| ewanmellor | SumitNaiksatam: Are you talking about using libvirt for network-plane operations? | 22:30 |
| dendrobates | danwent: SumitNaiksatam : maybe this is a good topic for a webex discussion | 22:30 |
| danwent | ewan: I think sumit was talking about vntag/vepa on linux | 22:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ewan: dan: yes | 22:30 |
| danwent | sumit: great. I think we're on the same page about what needs to be possible. We just need to work out the best way for it to happen so that we can have as clean of a separation of quantum + nova as possible. | 22:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mean to clarify | 22:30 |
| danwent | dendrobates: :) | 22:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dendorobates: agree, this discussion is more involved | 22:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we might want to carry it on over emails until the next meeting | 22:31 |
| danwent | sumit: sounds good, or over webex if that is faster. | 22:31 |
| danwent | (yet still open :) ) | 22:31 |
| danwent | at the least though, we'll want to send the conclusion to the list to wrap up the thread. | 22:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | as far as the libvirt "interface" configuration goes, there are pieces of information which nova would know, and there are others which quantum would | 22:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just reiterating | 22:32 |
| dendrobates | ok, anything else? | 22:32 |
| danwent | nope | 22:32 |
| ewanmellor | Can we make sure that Quantum operations aren't defined in terms of libvirt semantics? | 22:33 |
| danwent | +1 :) | 22:33 |
| dendrobates | #endmeeting | 22:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 22:33 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 1 22:33:50 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-06-01-22.03.html | 22:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-06-01-22.03.txt | 22:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-06-01-22.03.log.html | 22:33 |
| danwent | thanks for bearing with my crappy connectivity folks :) | 22:34 |
| dendrobates | if anyone in the bay area wants to grab a beer, ping me. | 22:34 |
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