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| carlp | Did the CI meeting move to a different venue? | 19:03 |
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| jeblair | no, i expect it to start shortly | 19:03 |
| mtaylor | morning everyone | 19:03 |
| mtaylor | #startmeeting | 19:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 13 19:03:42 2011 UTC. The chair is mtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 19:03 |
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| mtaylor | #topic actions from last meeting | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions from last meeting" | 19:05 | |
| mtaylor | a) I really need to add links to the wiki for the last couple of meetings ... | 19:05 |
| bengrue | The bot doesn't auto-log? | 19:06 |
| carlp | It should | 19:06 |
| mtaylor | It does - it just doesn't auto-add links to the web page | 19:06 |
| mtaylor | in any case: | 19:06 |
| mtaylor | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-09-06-19.01.html | 19:06 |
| mtaylor | there's last time | 19:06 |
| mtaylor | I achieved none of my actions due to me being effectively useless all last week (I did get a bunch of stuff done on packaging this past weekend) | 19:07 |
| mtaylor | so they're still all important | 19:07 |
| mtaylor | #action mtaylor Add how to contribute section to ci.openstack.org (mtaylor, 19:05:02) | 19:07 |
| mtaylor | #action mtaylor add packaging docs to ci.openstack.org | 19:07 |
| mtaylor | #action mtaylor infrastructure.openstack.org web config | 19:07 |
| mtaylor | dprince: did anyone communicate your action from last week to you? (dontcha love it when we give them to you when you aren't here?) | 19:08 |
| mtaylor | dprince: and/or - is openstack_vpc using openstack/openstack-chef now? | 19:08 |
| jeblair | no new commits to openstack/openstack-chef | 19:10 |
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| mtaylor | ok. crickets | 19:14 |
| mtaylor | #topic open discussion | 19:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion" | 19:14 | |
| mtaylor | anything anybody wants to hit on? | 19:14 |
| carlp | mtaylor: I also need to get with you on setting up the hardware here at DreamHost for CI of NetStack | 19:15 |
| mtaylor | carlp: YES | 19:15 |
| mtaylor | #action mtaylor will work with carlp on setting up netstack CI hardware | 19:15 |
| carlp | Not that I want to add more to your plate :) | 19:15 |
| mtaylor | nope - it's important | 19:15 |
| jeblair | i added a bunch of docs about how we're doing bare-metal deployment on the rackspace test cluster: http://ci.openstack.org/jenkins.html#deployment-testing | 19:15 |
| carlp | If you have time, tomorrow would be a good time for me. Otherwise, I have time available all week and next week. | 19:16 |
| carlp | Ooh, I'll go read that now | 19:16 |
| jeblair | a lot of what we're doing on that cluster is _very_ hackish, and we're going to take another pass at it and clean it up. when we do that, everything about the config will be in a public repo. that's not practical now, so those docs describe some scripts that aren't in a public repo yet. | 19:18 |
| carlp | Not a problem, I'm used to hackish :) | 19:19 |
| jeblair | but it does describe a technique for splitting up base os installation, and launching openstack installs from pristine LVM snapshots of that installation that speeds things up considerably. | 19:19 |
| bengrue | <mtaylor> anything anybody wants to hit on? | 19:19 |
| bengrue | Perfect setup for a mom joke. | 19:19 |
| bengrue | But I was… too late. | 19:19 |
| mtaylor | haha | 19:20 |
| mtaylor | well. that was the most non-contentious meeting in the history of mankind. :) | 19:29 |
| mtaylor | thanks all! | 19:29 |
| mtaylor | #endmeeting | 19:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 19:29 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 13 19:29:29 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-09-13-19.03.html | 19:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-09-13-19.03.txt | 19:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-09-13-19.03.log.html | 19:29 |
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| * vishy is here but will be silent for the first few minutes | 20:01 | |
| mtaylor | o/ | 20:02 |
| ttx | ... | 20:02 |
| ttx | wasn't the meeting cancelled ? | 20:02 |
| jaypipes | it was, AFAIK. | 20:03 |
| mtaylor | was it? | 20:03 |
| mtaylor | ok | 20:03 |
| * jk0 didn't hear anything | 20:03 | |
| ttx | well, we are missing the chair | 20:03 |
| ttx | jk0: are you on the -poc ML ? | 20:03 |
| jk0 | I thought so.. let me double check | 20:03 |
| ttx | (yet) ? | 20:03 |
| jaypipes | or maybe not... notmyname and I had some conversations on the etherpad about API stuff, but yeah, not sure if we decided the meeting was cancelled, sorry. | 20:03 |
| ttx | there was a few emails from jbryce saying he would not make it | 20:04 |
| jk0 | ah, I was added to the team but didn't subscribe to ML | 20:04 |
| ttx | jk0: you can read the archive for the last ones | 20:04 |
| pvo | I should check email more often... | 20:04 |
| ttx | though | 20:04 |
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| ttx | apparently the archives lag :/ | 20:04 |
| ttx | "I won't be able to make the meeting tomorrow. We have a couple of outstanding questions around the API topic. One is if we feel there's a need for an official API coordinator and the second is setting up the first pass of basic guidelines. I propose we push until next week, maybe sending a request for feedback on these topics to the mailing list in the meantime. If anyone feels strongly that they want to meet this week, we can proceed with tomorro | 20:05 |
| ttx | w's meeting and someone else can lead it. Any preferences?" | 20:05 |
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| ttx | nobody opposed that, so it's probably cancelled. | 20:06 |
| pvo | works for me | 20:06 |
| pvo | back to work! | 20:06 |
| * ttx can definitely use one more hour today. | 20:06 | |
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| vishy | ah ok | 20:09 |
| vishy | ciao | 20:09 |
| ttx | vishy: be back in 50 min :P | 20:10 |
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| devcamcar_ | o/ | 20:17 |
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| devcamcar_ | buehler? | 20:21 |
| notmyname | you just missed the cancelling | 20:21 |
| devcamcar_ | ok | 20:21 |
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| ttx | o/ | 20:59 |
| carlp | o/ | 20:59 |
| jk0 | o/ | 20:59 |
| ttx | notmyname, jaypipes, vishy: around ? | 20:59 |
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| jaypipes | ttx: ye | 21:00 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 21:00 |
| notmyname | hi | 21:01 |
| ttx | vishy is right around the corner, let's start | 21:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 13 21:01:23 2011 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:01 |
| ttx | Welcome to our weekly team meeting... Today's agenda is at: | 21:01 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/TeamMeeting | 21:01 |
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| ttx | #topic Actions from previous meeting | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meeting" | 21:02 | |
| ttx | * ttx to refurbish aws-api-validation and hyper-v-update as bugs and untarget them: DONE | 21:02 |
| ttx | * blamar to discuss openstack-common on the ML | 21:02 |
| ttx | That was DONE, with a good reception as always -- now hopefully we'll get some resources working on that :) | 21:02 |
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| ttx | * annegentle to email the mailing list with new naming possibilities (for API doc) | 21:03 |
| ttx | That was done as well AFAICT... Anne ? | 21:03 |
| * vishy sneaks in late and sits in the back | 21:03 | |
| ttx | let's parallelize that answer | 21:04 |
| ttx | #topic Essex is open, Diablo is in RC (release on Sep 22) | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Essex is open, Diablo is in RC (release on Sep 22)" | 21:04 | |
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| ttx | Just a quick note to say that Essex development is open in trunk... | 21:04 |
| ttx | ...and we continue to backport release-critical bugfixes to the milestone-proposed branches | 21:04 |
| ttx | Note that as we get closer to release date we need to be more careful about which bugfixes we accept to backport | 21:05 |
| ttx | Final release on Sep 22. | 21:05 |
| ttx | Questions on what we need to do those last week(s) ? | 21:05 |
| jaypipes | ttx: nope. you want to discuss your thought from yesterday that in Essex, we should abandon the "RBP milestone" for tracking purposes? | 21:06 |
| ttx | jaypipes: not really -- we can discuss that when discussing the Essex cycle at the summit | 21:07 |
| jaypipes | ttx: ok, no worries. | 21:07 |
| ttx | (basically, since -rbp is just a date, not a milestone, it's a bit awkward to target things against it) | 21:07 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Swift status" | 21:08 | |
| ttx | notmyname: o/ | 21:08 |
| notmyname | hi | 21:08 |
| ttx | 1.4.3 was released on Monday... | 21:08 |
| ttx | notmyname: How is design summit session planning going so far ? | 21:08 |
| notmyname | is packaging for 1.4.3 still in the works? | 21:08 |
| ttx | notmyname: yes, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/848971 | 21:09 |
| notmyname | I have entered several proposed sessions. yet to be reviewed | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 848971 in openstack-ci "Swift fails to build on maverick/lucid in trunk / milestone-proposed / release PPAs" [High,New] | 21:09 |
| ttx | mtaylor is on it. | 21:09 |
| ttx | notmyname: anything else ? | 21:10 |
| notmyname | not unless anyone has questions | 21:10 |
| ttx | looks like nobody has... | 21:11 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance status" | 21:11 | |
| ttx | jaypipes: hey | 21:11 |
| jaypipes | ttx: yo. | 21:11 |
| ttx | Looking at: https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/2011.3 | 21:11 |
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| ttx | On the feature side, I think we are done now -- should we consider changes-since-filter complete ? | 21:12 |
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| jaypipes | ttx: yes, actually, there's quite a bit going on in Glance right now, but a lot of the attention has unfortunately been going into new Essex features and not bug fixing and stabilization/documentation that we really should be focused on. I take responsibility for not sending emails to focus people away from feature-writing. | 21:12 |
| jaypipes | ttx: I will send such an email this afternoon. | 21:13 |
| ttx | cool | 21:13 |
| ttx | so i can mark changes-filter-since implemented ? | 21:13 |
| ttx | changes-since-filter* | 21:14 |
| jaypipes | ttx: no, not yet. | 21:14 |
| ttx | ok | 21:14 |
| jaypipes | ttx: it is in review. | 21:14 |
| ttx | jaypipes: On the bugs side, you have 8 targeted bugs so far. Let's do a quick status round | 21:14 |
| jaypipes | k | 21:14 |
| ttx | to see if they are all fixable in time | 21:14 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/804429 (jaypipes) | 21:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 804429 in glance "Cannot stream http image" [Critical,Confirmed] | 21:14 |
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| jaypipes | ttx: yes, that should still be fixed. | 21:15 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/809663 (mtaylor) | 21:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 809663 in glance "Glance milestone and integrated packages should automatically be uploaded to PyPI" [High,Confirmed] | 21:15 |
| jaypipes | ttx: and can. | 21:15 |
| jaypipes | mtaylor: ? | 21:15 |
| mtaylor | yeah. sorry - it keeps falling down on the todo list | 21:15 |
| ttx | sounds liek a CI bug more than a Glance bug ? | 21:15 |
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| jaypipes | ttx: well yes :) | 21:16 |
| ttx | #action jaypipes to send a diablo-focus email for Glance devs today | 21:16 |
| ttx | jaypipes: shoudl I move it ? | 21:16 |
| jaypipes | ttx: up to mtaylor. as long as it gets addresses, I don't care. it's now been pushed a couple milestone releases :( | 21:17 |
| jaypipes | addressed | 21:17 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/814981 (jaypipes) | 21:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 814981 in openstack-live "glance-api fails on image delivery: AttributeError: context" [Medium,Confirmed] | 21:17 |
| jaypipes | ttx: meh, I've been going back and forth on whether that's really a bug. | 21:17 |
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| ttx | sounds like a good target for... un-RC-targeting | 21:18 |
| jaypipes | ttx: it's really all about making sure that upgrades happen more smoothly when config/PasteDeply files change. | 21:18 |
| Vek | perhaps the description should be updated? | 21:18 |
| jaypipes | ttx: so it might be able to be marked duplicate of bug 779311 | 21:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 779311 in glance "Glance update for Ubuntu failing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/779311 | 21:18 |
| jaypipes | Vek: ya, or marked a duplicate... | 21:18 |
| ttx | jaypipes: yes, mark it dupe | 21:19 |
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| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817032 (jaypipes) | 21:19 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 817032 in glance "glance-control exits with 0 when glance-<server> script is not found" [Medium,Confirmed] | 21:19 |
| jaypipes | ttx: moved. | 21:19 |
| ttx | The remaining 4 are unassigned... If they all need to be fixed by release time, a good first step would be to get them all assigned... | 21:20 |
| ttx | If they aren't release-critical, then they should be removed from the list... | 21:20 |
| ttx | remaining 4 are actually "remaining 2" now | 21:20 |
| jaypipes | ttx: yes, the low priority ones I pushed to essex | 21:21 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/779311 | 21:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 779311 in glance "Glance update for Ubuntu failing" [High,Confirmed] | 21:21 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/794582 | 21:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 794582 in glance "glance sets image size to 0 for http images -> yields connection reset error on GET" [Medium,Confirmed] | 21:21 |
| ttx | any taker ? | 21:22 |
| jaypipes | the update for Glance failing one is really kinda weird, and doesn't seem to be reproduceable.. :( | 21:22 |
| * ttx will try to have a look at that one | 21:22 | |
| jaypipes | the image size to 0 thing is definitely an issue and should stay targeted to 2011.3. | 21:22 |
| ttx | jaypipes: can you find a victim^W assignee for it ? | 21:22 |
| jaypipes | ttx: I will mention it in my email to the ML. | 21:23 |
| ttx | ok | 21:23 |
| ttx | Any other Glance bug that /needs/ to be fixed before we can release Diablo ? | 21:23 |
| ttx | jaypipes: Other announcements/comments ? | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | ttx: not that I know of, but you never know ;) | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | ttx: no other comments/news | 21:23 |
| ttx | Raise your hand if you have a question on Glance. | 21:24 |
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| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nova status" | 21:24 | |
| ttx | vishy: o/ | 21:24 |
| ttx | Looking at: https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/2011.3 | 21:24 |
| ttx | Also 8 bugs on the release-critical list: | 21:25 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/833552 (pvo) | 21:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 833552 in nova "No easy migration from old auth to keystone" [Critical,In progress] | 21:25 |
| ttx | Are we making progress here ? | 21:25 |
| vishy | he's upgrading his branch from reviews | 21:25 |
| vishy | should be back up soon | 21:25 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/847604 (rcb) | 21:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 847604 in nova "Instance rebooting is broken" [Critical,In progress] | 21:25 |
| ttx | just approved, I see | 21:26 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/843704 (JordanRinke) | 21:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 843704 in nova "Hyper-V needs updates to catch up with Diablo" [High,In progress] | 21:26 |
| ttx | branch is a bit behind apparently | 21:26 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/833331 (_0x44) | 21:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 833331 in nova "OSAPI v1.1 needs to document config-drive as an extension" [Medium,Confirmed] | 21:27 |
| vishy | the instance rebooting doesn't actually apply to diablo | 21:27 |
| vishy | taht can e retargetted | 21:28 |
| ttx | vishy: oh. | 21:28 |
| * ttx drops target | 21:28 | |
| vishy | not sure if jordan's will make it | 21:28 |
| vishy | no idea on _0x44 docs | 21:28 |
| _0x44 | Sorry, I dropped the ball on that | 21:28 |
| ttx | _0x44: any chance you can submit something soon for that bug ? | 21:29 |
| _0x44 | ttx: Can you define soon? | 21:29 |
| ttx | hmm... end of week ? | 21:30 |
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| _0x44 | Yes, I should be able to do something by the end of the week. | 21:30 |
| ttx | kewl | 21:30 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/827807 (vishy) | 21:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 827807 in nova "in multi_host nova-network mode, nova-network doesn't reassociate reassociate the floating ips on reboot" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:31 |
| * annegentle sneaks in late and sits next to vishy | 21:31 | |
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| vishy | so i haven't looked into that one yet | 21:31 |
| vishy | but i think it should be a simple fix | 21:31 |
| ttx | Feeling confident, I like that. | 21:31 |
| ttx | Remaining 3 are unassigned. We'll have to get them off the list if nobody commits to fixing them... | 21:31 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/834189 | 21:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 834189 in nova "XenServer and KVM handle local storage differently" [High,Triaged] | 21:31 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/845866 | 21:32 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 845866 in nova "exception tracebacks are lost when using raise" [Low,Triaged] | 21:32 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/838386 | 21:32 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 838386 in nova "Test suite requires kombu and carrot to be installed" [Low,Triaged] | 21:32 |
| ttx | That last on, soren and Daviey were supposed to discuss who takes it | 21:32 |
| ttx | one* | 21:32 |
| annegentle | _0x44: I have an RST template for extensions doc that might help, I'll send it to you and glenc | 21:32 |
| _0x44 | annegentle: That would be great, thanks. Do you have my email address? | 21:32 |
| vishy | so first one i don't see us getting to | 21:32 |
| ttx | vishy: yes, I guess we'll have to live with it | 21:33 |
| ttx | vishy: should I untarget ? | 21:33 |
| vishy | yes, we'll just have to add it to the release notes and discuss at the summit | 21:33 |
| jk0 | yeah, that would be a very big change to go in at this point | 21:33 |
| vishy | the second is a pretty easy one | 21:33 |
| annegentle | _0x44: please dm it to me | 21:33 |
| jk0 | lots of discussion needed still | 21:34 |
| ttx | anyone feels like taking bug 845866 ? | 21:34 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 845866 in nova "exception tracebacks are lost when using raise" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845866 | 21:34 |
| vishy | the third i don't really think that is a huge deal anyway | 21:34 |
| ttx | Also if you know a bug that we should really fix before releasing Diablo, ping me or vishy so that we add it to the list. Bugs with assignees preferred :) | 21:36 |
| tr3buchet | i've got a small small one, that i can handle, i'll talk to vishy about it | 21:36 |
| vishy | also I have been trying to keep up with fixes that have been going in that need to be backported | 21:36 |
| ttx | vishy: Anything else ? | 21:36 |
| Vek | I'm aware of a zones bug in the cost scheduler | 21:36 |
| Vek | it's not targeted, but it is fixed in base scheduler | 21:37 |
| vishy | but I may have missed some, so let me know | 21:37 |
| Vek | probably not very important; just means not all the instances you ask for may get created | 21:37 |
| vishy | tr3buchet: what ever happened to the bug about overriding the vland in the db | 21:38 |
| tr3buchet | ... | 21:38 |
| tr3buchet | happen to have the number? i'm drawing a blank | 21:38 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/708278 ? | 21:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 708278 in nova "Prevent duplicated VLAN IDs " [Medium,Triaged] | 21:39 |
| vishy | tr3buchet: I don't know if it had a bug or not. It was using the flag to override the vlan device in the database | 21:40 |
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| tr3buchet | vishy: having vlan on a particular device which can change from host to host? | 21:41 |
| vishy | tr3buchet: right. We talked about changing the flag to override what was in the db | 21:42 |
| ttx | hmm, let's take that offline maybe -- so that we can get to the other topics | 21:42 |
| tr3buchet | sure sure | 21:42 |
| vishy | on non-homogenous hardware | 21:42 |
| vishy | sure | 21:42 |
| vishy | go... | 21:42 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated projects news | 21:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Incubated projects news" | 21:42 | |
| ttx | devcamcar, zsm, danwent: o/ | 21:43 |
| ttx | News ? | 21:43 |
| ttx | I've seen a few Keystone / Dashboard session proposals already, that's good ! | 21:43 |
| danwent | got the quantum manager integrated into nova | 21:43 |
| danwent | other than that, we're frozen for diablo, and are going to be focusing on docs + essex blueprints. | 21:44 |
| ttx | danwent: someone suggested to have a "Netstack" track instead of the "Incubated" track -- since we'll only have Quantum in incubation that may make sense | 21:44 |
| ttx | (for the summit) | 21:44 |
| ttx | Would that work for you ? | 21:44 |
| danwent | I'm all for it. | 21:44 |
| ttx | #action ttx to rename "Incubation" track to "Netstack" in summit | 21:45 |
| ttx | I've seen a few Keystone / Dashboard session proposals already, that's good ! | 21:45 |
| ttx | devcamcar, danwent: anything else ? | 21:45 |
| danwent | nope | 21:46 |
| ttx | #topic Documentation updates | 21:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Documentation updates" | 21:46 | |
| ttx | annegentle: floor is yours | 21:46 |
| annegentle | thanks. | 21:46 |
| annegentle | Just wanted to report a few things - the Starter Guide now has a handful of pages in the top ten most visits for the docs.openstack.org site. | 21:47 |
| annegentle | This past week I moved the API guides for Glance, Keystone, and Swift. This week I plan to create compute-api as a github repo so that API guides live in github. | 21:47 |
| annegentle | The Jenkins build jobs now point to github. After all the API guides are out of lp:openstack-manuals I'll move the remaining docs to github. | 21:48 |
| annegentle | I'm also listening in on the thread on the mailing list about the naming for that project, and trying to find a good way to ensure extensions get docs. Right now none of the extensions have docs that I can see. | 21:48 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: awesome work :) | 21:49 |
| annegentle | If you've written an extension, please drop me a line via email so I can send you some templates for extension docs - RST if you like, or DocBook if you like. I'm open. | 21:49 |
| annegentle | jaypipes: whew, thanks! More to come! | 21:49 |
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| ttx | annegentle: wanna introduce the Monday event ? | 21:50 |
| annegentle | Also, the Doc Blitz is Monday 9/19 - basically set aside an hour that day to poke the docs, log doc bugs, comment, offer feedback. We'll be listening intently. :) http://www.openstack.org/blog/2011/09/openstack-documentation-blitz/ | 21:50 |
| ttx | eh | 21:50 |
| annegentle | ttx: :) | 21:50 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: excellent :) | 21:50 |
| annegentle | there are two times you can join in the fun, to try to meet both sides of the globe (while I'm still awake) | 21:51 |
| annegentle | I'm still setting up the docs.openstack.org/docblitz site (it's an ugly landing page right now with broken links) but that's where I plan to collect comments on each page. | 21:51 |
| annegentle | All of the blitzing will help improve the docs! | 21:51 |
| ttx | annegentle: sounds great! anything else ? | 21:52 |
| annegentle | That'll do! Thanks. | 21:52 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion" | 21:52 | |
| ttx | The waiting list for the Essex Design Summit is now closed | 21:52 |
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| ttx | If you are a real dev, somehow lived under a rock for the last two weeks, and missed registration: you can contact me so that I try to get you whitelisted -- but do it today :) | 21:53 |
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| ttx | Session proposing is in full swing | 21:53 |
| ttx | Let me know if you have questions on that | 21:53 |
| ttx | or on anything else... | 21:53 |
| ttx | I'll take that as a no. | 21:55 |
| ttx | anything, anyone, before I close ? | 21:56 |
| annegentle | wow quiet at the close | 21:56 |
| jaypipes | :) | 21:56 |
| * Vek feels barely here anyway. | 21:56 | |
| carlp | You should have been at the CI meeting - it was dead there too | 21:56 |
| ttx | heh, let's cut it then | 21:56 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 21:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 13 21:57:00 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-09-13-21.01.html | 21:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-09-13-21.01.txt | 21:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-09-13-21.01.log.html | 21:57 |
| ttx | Have a nice $REST_OF_DAY everyone ! | 21:57 |
| medberry | you too ttx. | 21:57 |
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| danwent | just in time ttx :) | 22:00 |
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| danwent | hello net stackers…. I am trying to disable my IRC auto-correct as we speak :) | 22:01 |
| debo_os | ;) | 22:01 |
| salv | hello! | 22:01 |
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| dendrobates | hey all | 22:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 22:02 |
| danwent | ok, troy said he couldn't make it, so hopefully we have quorum | 22:02 |
| tr3buchet | hello | 22:02 |
| danwent | #startmeeting | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 13 22:02:30 2011 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 22:02 |
| danwent | agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 22:02 |
| danwent | #topic melange update | 22:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "melange update" | 22:03 | |
| danwent | troy is out but send me an update. I will copy-paste :) | 22:03 |
| danwent | The Melange merge prop is now open for review for Essex. Most comments from the initial reviews have been fully addressed including moving a fair amount of code to openstack commons. We'll be pushing to get reviews done and move this forward. | 22:04 |
| danwent | We also have a related pull request out for the Openstack Common changes. | 22:04 |
| danwent | Full integration will be dependent on some Nova refactoring to isolate IP address access to the network manager. We have a developer starting on that work and hope to have it done within the next two weeks. | 22:04 |
| danwent | Trey, did you have anything to add on this front? | 22:04 |
| danwent | or anyone else have questions on melange? | 22:04 |
| tr3buchet | nope, we're trucking through it. hoping to get it done in the next coupel of weeks | 22:04 |
| tr3buchet | couple | 22:04 |
| danwent | sweet | 22:04 |
| danwent | #topic donabe update | 22:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "donabe update" | 22:05 | |
| dendrobates | I planned on having a donabe meeting this week, but it is talking longer to document the model, so we are going to push it to next week. | 22:05 |
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| danwent | apparently I have to restart my session to make the auto-correct fully disable… it translated donabe to donate again. | 22:05 |
| dendrobates | also, debo, has started some of the sample integration work | 22:05 |
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| edgarmagana | Hi everybody | 22:06 |
| danwent | great…. anything else? | 22:06 |
| dendrobates | debo_os: have you pushed yet? | 22:06 |
| debo_os | not yet | 22:06 |
| debo_os | push in a short while | 22:06 |
| dendrobates | awesome | 22:07 |
| debo_os | sorry will push in a short while | 22:07 |
| dendrobates | that's all | 22:07 |
| danwent | great, thanks | 22:07 |
| danwent | #topic quantum update | 22:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "quantum update" | 22:07 | |
| danwent | thanks to everyone for the reviews prior to the diablo branch point | 22:08 |
| danwent | I think I have performed the correct launchpad gymnastics to switch from diablo to essex | 22:08 |
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| danwent | lp:quantum should now be pointing to essex branch | 22:08 |
| danwent | we'll talk in a bit about the switch to github, as that complicates things a bit. | 22:08 |
| danwent | but again, if you have anything that you think needs to target diablo, please speak up…. earlier is much better than later. | 22:09 |
| danwent | the diablo release milestone is: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/2011.3 | 22:09 |
| danwent | right now we just have documentation issues targeted. I for one am behind on getting my documentation outline out. | 22:09 |
| danwent | will try to block out some time tomorrow for that. | 22:10 |
| danwent | salv, any update on getting API docs in repo? | 22:10 |
| salv | work in progress, estimated to finish this thursday | 22:10 |
| danwent | great. | 22:10 |
| salv | document will look like any other openstack manual, | 22:11 |
| danwent | you're living in docbook hell? :) | 22:11 |
| salv | I hate docbook | 22:11 |
| * annegentle sobs | 22:11 | |
| annegentle | :) | 22:11 |
| danwent | all doc systems are terrible though... | 22:11 |
| salv | But I have to say the rackspace template makes life much easier | 22:11 |
| annegentle | pick your poison | 22:11 |
| danwent | exactly | 22:11 |
| danwent | Ok, next up: github / gerrit transition. | 22:12 |
| danwent | this will be tricky… we essentially need to pick a point when we can get all work into trunk, then have them convert trunk over to github. | 22:12 |
| jaypipes | danwent: can't we just use CVS? | 22:12 |
| salv | Last time we spoke about this I remember we proposed to start Essex lifecycle in github | 22:12 |
| * jaypipes runs and hides | 22:12 | |
| danwent | jaypipes :) | 22:12 |
| bhall_ | jaypipes: you take that back | 22:12 |
| jaypipes | bhall_: :) | 22:13 |
| danwent | salv: yes, diablo will stay completely in launchpad / bzr | 22:13 |
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| soren | jaypipes: Or stick the source code in a Word document that we send back and forth over e-mail. | 22:13 |
| danwent | but for work like your pylint fixes, we'll need to get that somewhere where it can be converted over. | 22:13 |
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| jaypipes | in all seriousness, switching from bzr/LP to git/Gerrit doesn't take all that long or require all that much effort besides reading http://wiki.openstack.org/GerritWorkflow. | 22:13 |
| jaypipes | it shouldn't be a huge deal :) | 22:13 |
| salv | jaypipes: agreed. | 22:14 |
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| danwent | jaypipes: is it only trunk that gets coverted over? | 22:14 |
| danwent | converted | 22:14 |
| jaypipes | soren: yes, that's a much better method. I'll add that as a wishlist to the openstack-ci project ;) | 22:14 |
| salv | Anybody volunteering to read that document? | 22:14 |
| jaypipes | danwent: yep! so definitely need to have a merge freeze | 22:14 |
| danwent | soren: I would prefer a non-proprietary document format. | 22:14 |
| jaypipes | danwent: yes, sorry, LibreOffice3 | 22:14 |
| danwent | salv: already have | 22:14 |
| bhall_ | salv: I've read it already :) | 22:14 |
| danwent | brad, I think you had some proposals for converting over? | 22:15 |
| bhall_ | I was thinking we could target friday morning for moving over | 22:15 |
| salv | Thanks guys! It was in my todo list, but got buried under other hundreds of todos | 22:15 |
| bhall_ | so everyone can get their environment setup on friday | 22:15 |
| salv | friday 23rd? | 22:15 |
| bhall_ | 9/16 .. is that too close? | 22:16 |
| danwent | maybe its best to get an inventory of what we need to get merged into trunk. | 22:16 |
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| danwent | salv: start-up time frames…. everything gets compressed :) | 22:16 |
| danwent | an inventory let's us figure out what we need to review and merge. | 22:16 |
| danwent | the packaging work is one big concern for me. | 22:16 |
| bhall_ | danwent: yup, me too | 22:16 |
| salv | bhall: that depends i and how many bugs are we putting in diablo | 22:16 |
| danwent | as it seems like we're not super close to having that ready. | 22:16 |
| jaypipes | danwent: please do proactively work with mtaylor on the packaging concerns. | 22:17 |
| salv | meant to say "if and how many" | 22:17 |
| bhall_ | ok.. 23rd works for me. less about what the date is and more about picking one | 22:17 |
| danwent | jaypipes: sorry, to be clear: we have a branch that rearranges the quantum code a bit to be more amenable to packaging. that branch is not yet in trunk and I am wondering whether we should try and merge it before making the switch. | 22:17 |
| bhall_ | that should give us enough time to inventory, etc | 22:17 |
| salv | bhall: if there isn't any bugs targeting 2011.3 fri 9/16 would be better, as this would give us more time to update our development environments | 22:18 |
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| bhall_ | ok | 22:18 |
| danwent | I am fine with targeting 9/16… I don't see a flood of bugs coming in for diablo. | 22:19 |
| bhall_ | is tyler around? maybe he can comment on packaging status | 22:19 |
| danwent | and we have until 9/22 to wrap up diablo bugs. | 22:19 |
| danwent | tyler has a conflict during this time. | 22:19 |
| bhall_ | but shooting for 9/16 sounds good to me | 22:19 |
| bhall_ | oh ok | 22:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we are testing :-) | 22:20 |
| danwent | sumit: are you referring to the packaging, or quantum in general? | 22:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | not packaging | 22:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | quantum and the cisco plugin related stuff | 22:20 |
| danwent | #action bhall check with tyler about packaging and switch to github | 22:20 |
| danwent | sumit: gotcha | 22:21 |
| somik | SumitNaikasatam: hope you guys dont create a flurry of bugs then :) | 22:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hope not | 22:21 |
| danwent | I'm pretty sure quantum is bug free by this point :P | 22:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | definitely not a flurry :-) | 22:21 |
| danwent | ok, so we're good with a planned 9/16 switch date? | 22:21 |
| salv | danwent, bhall: please do not forget that the API doc is going in trunk :) | 22:21 |
| salv | don't you want to review it before merging? | 22:21 |
| danwent | we will need that in both the diablo release and the essex.... | 22:22 |
| salv | It might be more convenient if we wait for that to be in trunk, and then switch. | 22:22 |
| danwent | easiest thing would probably be for it to go into essex while code is still in lp, then just pull that commit into the diablo branch on lp | 22:23 |
| salv | Then we can probably say we will switch 1 nanosecond after merging the API doc branch | 22:23 |
| danwent | salv: yeah, I agree. | 22:23 |
| bhall_ | that sounds like a good plan | 22:23 |
| salv | +1 | 22:23 |
| danwent | but with reviewing that doc, is 9/16 feasible? | 22:23 |
| danwent | salv, you said that doc would be available on thurs? | 22:24 |
| bhall_ | depends on what salv means by thursday I guess | 22:24 |
| salv | Merge proposal expect on thursday, possibly PDT morning | 22:24 |
| danwent | thursday his time is early for us | 22:24 |
| salv | I need to complete the operation list | 22:24 |
| danwent | Ok, let's still target 9/16 then. | 22:24 |
| danwent | #action #bhall, contact openstack infrastructure team about targeted 9/16 transition to github/gerrit. | 22:24 |
| danwent | #action #salv get API spec merge prop by thurs, if possible. | 22:25 |
| danwent | ok, anything else about github/gerrit? | 22:25 |
| bhall_ | don't think so .. once we switch I can send an email with instructions/etc | 22:26 |
| danwent | great | 22:26 |
| danwent | Ok, wanted to bring up topic of design summit blueprints. | 22:26 |
| danwent | I know that a lot of blueprints are not finalized to the last minute, but I want to encourage folks that if they know they plan on submitting a blueprint in a netstack area to send a quick heads up to the list (even if the blueprint itself isn't ready). | 22:27 |
| salv | Agreed. I'm preparing an email on Quantum API v1.1 | 22:28 |
| danwent | this will just help us avoid having 8 different blueprints for the same thing being created in complete isolation... | 22:28 |
| carlp | on that subject: I hope to have our CI machines ready with Monty by the summit. Do we want to have a discussion about that with all the key parties in one room with a whiteboard? | 22:28 |
| carlp | should I file a blueprint for that? | 22:28 |
| danwent | carlp: that would be great. | 22:28 |
| danwent | I think you no longer technically have to file a blueprint | 22:28 |
| danwent | you can just ask for a session, though if you want to write up anything ahead of time, a blueprint is the ideal place. | 22:29 |
| carlp | ok, I can do that | 22:29 |
| salv | talking about sessions, any news about the agenda for the summit? (I missed the previous meeting) | 22:29 |
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| danwent | as I heads up, I'll also be creating a blueprint that is around a framework for inserting higher-level services into quantum (not on any specific higher-level service, more just general guidelines for anyone doing that) | 22:30 |
| danwent | design summit agenda won't be set until very late… after all blueprints are in, which is end of sept (28th?) I think. | 22:30 |
| danwent | (someone correct me if i'm wrong) | 22:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | btw, did anyone get a confirmation number for registering for the design summit? | 22:31 |
| edgarmagana | danwent: we (cisco) are also working on a BP for services | 22:31 |
| danwent | I think they plan on finalizing the agenda for the openstack conference (i.e. not developer focused) earlier. | 22:31 |
| salv | That's understandable. Do we know at least if incubation projects can apply for their own sessions? | 22:31 |
| edgarmagana | danwent: we can work together on the draft version | 22:31 |
| danwent | egdar: cool. I suspect others are as well. would be good to start sharing ideas on the ML. | 22:32 |
| salv | +1 | 22:32 |
| danwent | edgar: definitely. | 22:32 |
| danwent | salv: there will be a netstack tracker, which is what we should all use when submitting our session. | 22:32 |
| edgarmagana | danwent: by Friday we expect to be ready to send the first bunch of ideas | 22:32 |
| salv | let's not end up with 3 independet blueprints as we did for Cactus :) | 22:32 |
| danwent | edgar: you're ahead of me then :) | 22:32 |
| danwent | salv: diablo? | 22:32 |
| danwent | salv: that's exactly the goal. | 22:32 |
| salv | Diablo, right. | 22:33 |
| danwent | salv: ah, seems so long ago now, huh :) | 22:33 |
| danwent | Ok, any other thoughts on blueprints or the summit? | 22:33 |
| salv | I think higher-layer services and API improvements are the most important items | 22:33 |
| edgarmagana | Sumit: I think Ram got the list of the confirmed folks (we are in) :-) | 22:33 |
| danwent | #agreed send pointer to ML if you plan on working on a netstack bp that is generally applicable. | 22:34 |
| salv | then I'm pretty sure a lot of other interesting ideas will came along! | 22:34 |
| danwent | salv: agree, I think that will be the focus. | 22:34 |
| danwent | but you never know what else might come up. | 22:34 |
| edgarmagana | +1 | 22:34 |
| danwent | ok, one last topic: pep8 | 22:34 |
| danwent | it seems like our hudson server is now running with a newer version of pep8 (0.6.1 i'm guessing) which is causing build errors (there are some violations in the cisco plugin that don't seem to show up with pep8 0.5.0) | 22:35 |
| danwent | or at least that is my best guess of what is going on. | 22:35 |
| salv | danwent: confirmed. | 22:35 |
| danwent | So I'm going to file an issue that enforces a single version of pep8 | 22:35 |
| danwent | we'll start doing that for essex though | 22:36 |
| danwent | sound good? | 22:36 |
| salv | they are very trivial, pep8 0.6.1 complains if there's a space or newline between the end of a seq/dict and the marker | 22:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | keep it at 0.5 for now :-) | 22:36 |
| danwent | sumit: does your team have an issue with going to 0.6.1 in the future? | 22:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nope | 22:36 |
| salv | I'm fine with any version, just let's make sure there is only one version | 22:36 |
| danwent | ok, great. | 22:36 |
| danwent | yup :) | 22:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | haven't checked the 0.6 violations though | 22:37 |
| danwent | ok, anything else quantum specific? | 22:37 |
| danwent | #topic open discussion | 22:37 |
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| salv | will there be a space for demos at the summit? | 22:37 |
| danwent | salv: definitely | 22:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | good question salv, we were also wondering | 22:38 |
| dendrobates | salv: there hasn't been in the past | 22:38 |
| dendrobates | but you could include it in a session | 22:38 |
| danwent | salv: we have a session for quantum where we plan to do an overview and a quick demo | 22:38 |
| danwent | I think there is one for donabe as well? | 22:38 |
| danwent | debo? | 22:38 |
| danwent | dendro? | 22:38 |
| salv | danwent: great. Let me know if I can help in any way with setting up the demo. | 22:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | danwent/dedrobates: but no booths? | 22:38 |
| danwent | haha… definitely no booths | 22:39 |
| danwent | let's hope openstack summits never become a trade show | 22:39 |
| danwent | with people scanning your badge :) | 22:39 |
| salv | danwent: I hate that thing | 22:39 |
| danwent | ok, anything else? | 22:40 |
| salv | especially when attractive girls approach you at the bar, just for scanning your badge :( | 22:40 |
| salv | nothing else from me. | 22:40 |
| danwent | k, great work finishing up the reviews. If you find an issue that you think needs to be fixed for diablo, please file a bug against diablo and email the netstack list so it can get quick attention. | 22:40 |
| danwent | salv :) | 22:40 |
| danwent | ok, thanks folks. | 22:41 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 22:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 13 22:41:06 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-09-13-22.02.html | 22:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-09-13-22.02.txt | 22:41 |
| dendrobates | danwent: yes there sis a donabe session | 22:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-09-13-22.02.log.html | 22:41 |
| somik | have a good one everybody! | 22:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ciao! | 22:41 |
| edgarmagana | adios! | 22:41 |
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| danwent | dendrobate: damn… just missed the log :) | 22:41 |
| salv | bye! | 22:41 |
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