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| zul | alright so who is here for the nova-ec2-api team meeting? | 15:00 |
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| Daviey | hola | 15:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:00 |
| zul | #startmeeting | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 22 15:00:08 2011 UTC. The chair is zul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 15:00 |
| zul | ooh canonicalers and ex-canonicalers | 15:00 |
| zul | ;) | 15:00 |
| smoser | :) | 15:00 |
| zul | so lets get this started. | 15:00 |
| smoser | zul is ex-canonical now ? | 15:00 |
| zul | the agenda today is the following: | 15:00 |
| zul | smoser: maybe | 15:00 |
| zul | 1. Bug list | 15:00 |
| zul | 2. Testing | 15:00 |
| zul | 3. Progress | 15:01 |
| Daviey | smoser: not yet. | 15:01 |
| zul | #topic Bug list | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug list" | 15:01 | |
| zul | so last week i tagged some more bugs that are ec2 specific | 15:01 |
| zul | which can be found at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=ec2 | 15:01 |
| zul | right now there is only 26, which is not bad but im sure there is more bugs that havent been reported or i have missed a couple | 15:02 |
| Daviey | crikey | 15:02 |
| Daviey | more than i hoped. | 15:02 |
| Daviey | good they are discovered. | 15:02 |
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| zul | this doesnt include any bugs that we are going to be reporting soon due to the testing we are going to start doing for the ec2 api | 15:03 |
| zul | an interesting bug for me is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/889013 | 15:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 889013 in nova "nova-api not starting the EC2 API in 2012.1-dev" [Undecided,New] | 15:03 |
| zul | whoops not that one | 15:03 |
| zul | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/827569 | 15:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 827569 in nova "ec2metadata service does not include 2011-01-01" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 15:04 |
| zul | basically it doesnt exist in the ec2 metadata list | 15:04 |
| smoser | so... on that one.. | 15:05 |
| zul | however if we just add it to the list we would be kind of lying that it is supported we should see what has been added at that date and see if we can add it to nvoa | 15:05 |
| smoser | the metadata service in openstack probably poorly mimics what is in ec2 | 15:05 |
| smoser | so just adding another entry at the top level is only going to break it more | 15:05 |
| zul | really...intresting | 15:06 |
| Daviey | Does it make sense just to add it, then report bugs for each feature it is missing? | 15:06 |
| smoser | it would make more sense to actually find what was in each api version and actually do it right. | 15:06 |
| zul | smoser: i agree | 15:06 |
| Daviey | well yes, but slowly, slowly, catchy monkey | 15:06 |
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| smoser | well, there are only like 8 entries there over the course of 5 years or something. | 15:06 |
| Daviey | one huge merge of each part is likely going to be less fun, than incremental ones of each part, right? | 15:06 |
| zul | and people have said that in the gerrit entry for that bug as well i just havent gotten a chance to do it yet | 15:06 |
| smoser | that monkey in particular ismore of a sloth | 15:06 |
| zul | Daviey: if we do one huge merge im afaid it would be more difficult to review | 15:07 |
| smoser | Daviey, one merge of "add a string" just doesn't help anything, and doen'st make the "fix it right" merge any smaller | 15:07 |
| smoser | but if you want to fix it, go for it. | 15:07 |
| zul | but we are always going to be behind what amazon does | 15:07 |
| Daviey | soren: Do you have thoughts? | 15:07 |
| soren | As I think I argued on gerrit: Yes, it'd be lying if we said we supported 2011-01-01, but so is every other version listed there. | 15:07 |
| soren | We very likely don't support any of them correctly. | 15:08 |
| zul | right and thats where the testing and reporting bugs will come in | 15:08 |
| soren | ...which is something we obviously should fix at some point, but nevertheless.. | 15:08 |
| Daviey | Yes, but claiming to - then resolving issues where we do not, sounds more viable IMO. | 15:08 |
| soren | One thing I do wonder, though: | 15:08 |
| soren | Why add it? Does anything depend on that particular version being listed? | 15:08 |
| soren | Put differently: | 15:09 |
| smoser | why add another thing that is broken. | 15:09 |
| soren | How did we notice it was missing? I have a hard time believing zul was so bored one afternoon that he decided to look at that list and went "oh, dear me, 2011-01-01 is missing". | 15:09 |
| Daviey | it seems closer to providing an ec2 full experience IMO. | 15:09 |
| smoser | i noticed it was broken. | 15:09 |
| soren | I'm fine adding it. | 15:09 |
| soren | I just wonder why. | 15:10 |
| Daviey | smoser: how did you notice? | 15:10 |
| smoser | not because i went looking for it, but because some tool (ec2metadata or cloud-init, i dont remember which) was using it. | 15:10 |
| smoser | and it wasnt there. | 15:10 |
| soren | smoser: That's good enough for me. LEt's add it. | 15:10 |
| zul | me thinks smoser was bored one day ;) | 15:10 |
| Daviey | smoser: did it go bang, or fall back? | 15:10 |
| smoser | meh. | 15:10 |
| smoser | its pointless. | 15:10 |
| soren | I don't think there's that much boredom in the universe. | 15:10 |
| smoser | adding another thing that is wrong isn't fixing anything | 15:10 |
| smoser | but who cares. | 15:10 |
| smoser | i give up. | 15:10 |
| soren | smoser: If you want to help actually fix it, I'd he happy to support that as well. | 15:11 |
| Daviey | smoser: by adding it, we can validate what is missing, right? | 15:11 |
| soren | So far, the EC2 API implemetnation doesn't really strive to be correct (which is evident to anyone who takes a look). | 15:11 |
| soren | It strives to make stuff work. | 15:11 |
| Daviey | Well yes, in at least one area we match the spec better than aws does :) | 15:11 |
| smoser | i dont think it requires adding it to validate what is missing. clearly, adding a "symlink" is going to result in the same stuff under 2011-01-01 that is elsewhere. so you're not any closer to making it better. | 15:12 |
| smoser | but i give up. do what you want. | 15:12 |
| soren | If something gets upset because 2011-01-01 is missing, adding it is completely in line with how the EC2 API implementation has been done so far. | 15:12 |
| soren | That is not so say that a more correct approach woulnd't be preferable, but this is how it is. | 15:12 |
| smoser | i just think its better to have a missing API than a broken one. | 15:12 |
| smoser | and you're adding another broken one. | 15:12 |
| soren | Then disable the EC2 API altogether. | 15:12 |
| soren | SEriously. | 15:13 |
| soren | It's not so spec. | 15:13 |
| soren | So, following the same logic, we're better off without it. | 15:13 |
| soren | s/so spec/to spec/ | 15:13 |
| smoser | but i give up. do what you want. | 15:13 |
| soren | You suck at giving up, you know that, right? :) | 15:13 |
| zul | ok can we move i want to raise another issue which is a bug | 15:14 |
| soren | It's your meeting. | 15:14 |
| soren | :) | 15:14 |
| soren | (yes) | 15:14 |
| soren | *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* | 15:14 |
| zul | when we were testing the ec2 api we noticed that when connecting the ec2 api metadata server the perfomance was slow | 15:14 |
| zul | im slow typer :P | 15:15 |
| soren | How slow? | 15:15 |
| zul | it seem to just hitting the api server sequentally and somehow batch the info | 15:15 |
| soren | And using which DB backend? | 15:15 |
| zul | i dont have any metrics but if you look at the log file it was just constant hitting the api server | 15:15 |
| zul | sqlite | 15:15 |
| soren | YEah, those requests will be sequential, iirc. | 15:16 |
| Daviey | erm | 15:16 |
| zul | could we batch it or something | 15:16 |
| Daviey | This is known issue, no? | 15:16 |
| soren | And cloud-init issues a lot of requests, IIRC. | 15:16 |
| Daviey | even with mysql. | 15:16 |
| soren | Daviey: I don't think this will be as sequential with MySQL. | 15:16 |
| Daviey | vish suggested installing nova-api onto all compute nodes to help speed it up. | 15:17 |
| soren | In the short term, that's probably a good idea. | 15:17 |
| smoser | cloud-init crawls the metadata service. | 15:17 |
| zul | still when running on one server it seems slow but anyways | 15:17 |
| smoser | and "how slow"? | 15:17 |
| smoser | really freaking slow | 15:17 |
| Daviey | Yeah | 15:18 |
| smoser | like a new openstack, its 5 seconds to crawl it. each request takes > .3 seconds or something | 15:18 |
| Daviey | it is really pretty bad, but this is known. | 15:18 |
| soren | A second per request? | 15:18 |
| smoser | on an openstack with ~ 2000 instances | 15:18 |
| smoser | total, ever | 15:18 |
| Daviey | spawning 10 concurrent instances can wedge it. | 15:18 |
| smoser | then its like 45 seconds to crawl it. | 15:18 |
| soren | Erk. | 15:18 |
| soren | Suckage. | 15:18 |
| Daviey | But this is fixed in Essex, already - right? | 15:18 |
| soren | No idea. | 15:18 |
| smoser | it is surely improved. | 15:18 |
| soren | You're the EC2 API team. :) | 15:18 |
| smoser | but each one stillr esults in a round trip to the database i think. | 15:19 |
| Daviey | zul: didn't you cherry pick a patch as an SRU candidate for diablo? | 15:19 |
| soren | You should know. I only joined half an hour ago. I'm the newbie. | 15:19 |
| zul | Daviey: dont remember :) | 15:19 |
| Daviey | soren: yeah, you are only a nova core dev, what do you know? :) | 15:19 |
| soren | smoser: Yes, each one will do a round trip to the db. | 15:19 |
| soren | Daviey: My point exactly. | 15:19 |
| zul | heh ok...anyone wants to raising anything else on bug before we move to the next topic | 15:20 |
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| zul | if not we will move on the next topic | 15:21 |
| zul | ok then | 15:21 |
| zul | #topic Testing | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Testing" | 15:21 | |
| zul | so last week i had a look at the aws testing scripts done by cloudscaling, i need to start using them so we can start reporting more bugs on launchpad about the ec2 api | 15:22 |
| soren | Link? | 15:22 |
| zul | hold on | 15:22 |
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| zul | https://github.com/cloudscaling/aws-compat/ | 15:23 |
| zul | so my thought process would be: | 15:23 |
| zul | 1. Run the tests | 15:23 |
| zul | 2. Report the tests as bugs in launchpad | 15:23 |
| zul | 3. Tag them as ec2 | 15:23 |
| zul | 4. Send an overview to the openstack mailing list | 15:24 |
| zul | questions/comments? | 15:24 |
| soren | Is this something that can be run automatically? | 15:24 |
| zul | soren: yeah we are probably going to run it in the canonical test lab and mtaylor mentioned that he was interested in bringing it in the openstack-ci | 15:25 |
| soren | Then we should get it integrated into the openstack-integration-tests suite. | 15:25 |
| zul | we should | 15:25 |
| Daviey | soren: We'll add that to our integration jenkins testing | 15:25 |
| soren | Cool beans. | 15:26 |
| zul | does anyone know of any other tests we could use as well so we can get a "second opinon"? | 15:27 |
| zul | soren: do you know of any | 15:27 |
| zul | like something you might have seen on your travels perhaps | 15:27 |
| soren | Only the nova smoketests. | 15:27 |
| zul | ok | 15:28 |
| soren | They just do a couple of simple things like start an instance, attach a volume, kill the instance.. | 15:28 |
| zul | Daviey: comment/ | 15:28 |
| zul | gotcha | 15:28 |
| zul | so im going to move on to the last topic | 15:28 |
| zul | #topic Progress/Openfloor | 15:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Progress/Openfloor" | 15:28 | |
| Daviey | Our Automated/CI testing has made a great start! | 15:29 |
| Daviey | using juju + orchestra | 15:29 |
| zul | so imho we are a being a bit slow out of the gate but i think we are finding our feet | 15:29 |
| zul | and with that the floor is open for comments questions discussions etc etc etc | 15:30 |
| zul | Daviey/smoser/soren/ttx anything to say or discuss or mention? | 15:30 |
| smoser | i think soren should fix the metadata service suckyness immediately | 15:31 |
| * smoser ducks | 15:31 | |
| zul | hehe | 15:31 |
| Daviey | hah | 15:31 |
| soren | smoser: It's my top priority. It's only surpassed by all the other stuff I'm working on. | 15:31 |
| zul | and get paid to work on | 15:31 |
| Daviey | I think we need to produce more stats on issues we suck at. | 15:31 |
| zul | like a suck-o-meter | 15:32 |
| smoser | soren, if you just want to test, how sucky the MD is, | 15:32 |
| zul | http://www.suckometer.com/palm/index.html | 15:32 |
| smoser | time python -c 'import boto; boto.utils.get_instance_metadata()' | 15:32 |
| zul | and with that | 15:34 |
| zul | #endmeeting | 15:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 15:34 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 22 15:34:06 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-22-15.00.html | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-22-15.00.txt | 15:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-22-15.00.log.html | 15:34 |
| zul | thanks for coming btw | 15:35 |
| Daviey | thanks zul | 15:36 |
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| mtaylor | zul, soren: yes | 16:55 |
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| zns1 | Anyone here for the Keystone meeting? | 18:31 |
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| heckj | o/ | 18:33 |
| zns | Hi heckj - sorry, I got the time wrong. We still had in our schedules for 13:00 CST, but the time should be 1800 UTC. | 18:37 |
| zns | We'll get it right next week. | 18:37 |
| zns | Meanwhile, are there any questions I can answer for you while we're here? | 18:37 |
| heckj | nothing immediate - have been distracted this past week | 18:38 |
| zns | OK. I've put up new documentation and a review to novaclient as well to start supporting Keystone. | 18:38 |
| heckj | link to review? | 18:39 |
| zns | novaclient: https://review.openstack.org/#change,1825 | 18:40 |
| zns | docs: https://review.openstack.org/#change,1812 | 18:40 |
| zns | Some of the docs are already up: http://keystone.openstack.org/middleware_architecture.html | 18:40 |
| heckj | thanks | 18:45 |
| chmouel | nice docs zns | 18:46 |
| zns | We also added middleware tests to verify the middleware behaviour. Need to add that for the nova, glance, and swift middleware. | 18:47 |
| zns | Thanks chmouel. Let us know if there are any other features you need documented (or better documented) | 18:47 |
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| anotherjesse | ci meeting? | 19:02 |
| carlp | anotherjesse: it was a few hours ago | 19:04 |
| anotherjesse | wow - I can't get this right ;( | 19:05 |
| anotherjesse | how was it? | 19:06 |
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| carlp | I missed it as well, but saw the close of meeting at the end of my chat logs | 19:06 |
| anotherjesse | yeah - reading logs now | 19:08 |
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| mtaylor | anotherjesse: yeah. I'm screwed up in my brain | 19:21 |
| mtaylor | anotherjesse: stupid time zones | 19:22 |
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| bengrue | ping | 19:58 |
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| jbryce | hello | 20:00 |
| jk0 | o/ | 20:00 |
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| ttx | \o | 20:00 |
| zns | hi | 20:01 |
| jbryce | howdy | 20:01 |
| zns | Are we meeting? | 20:01 |
| jbryce | while people are filtering in does anyone have anything they want to put on the agenda today? currently, it's empty | 20:02 |
| * mtaylor has nothing | 20:02 | |
| mtaylor | also | 20:02 |
| mtaylor | o/ | 20:02 |
| * mtaylor thinks it might me a light week this week, what with thanksgiving in the US and all | 20:03 | |
| zns | nothing PPB-relevant | 20:03 |
| * jk0 is a fan of light weeks | 20:04 | |
| jbryce | yes. light weeks seem to be when you can get a lot of work done | 20:04 |
| jbryce | we'll give it a couple of minutes and then call it off if no one has anything pressing | 20:05 |
| notmyname | mtaylor: I'm a fan of the idea of your vcsversion script | 20:06 |
| notmyname | and if ewanmellor shows up, I need to talk to him | 20:06 |
| notmyname | but I got nothing for the PPB | 20:06 |
| ttx | vcsversion script ? | 20:07 |
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| mtaylor | ttx: some code I was hacking on on the plane to better encode what we do externally in the tarball jobs into projects directly ... not quite ready for prime time yet - but I was showing it to notmyname in brazil | 20:08 |
| notmyname | ttx: ya, it's something he and I were talking about last week that fixes most of my issues with versioning. it moves the versioning to the vcs rather than inthe code | 20:08 |
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| notmyname | which I like because I think a version is metadata about the code and not code itselft | 20:09 |
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| ttx | mtaylor, notmyname: fwiw I'd like to get rid of the Final = True thing, if possible | 20:09 |
| jbryce | if no one has anything then i propose we call off ppb for the week | 20:09 |
| mtaylor | ttx: similar here - I'll send you a link and a write up of a little bit of where it's going | 20:10 |
| ttx | mtaylor, notmyname: i.e. not requiring a special tarball regeneration at release time (you should do nothing special at release time) | 20:10 |
| mtaylor | ttx: ++ | 20:10 |
| mtaylor | ttx: I believe we have the same goal here | 20:10 |
| ttx | That Final thing is mostly not used anymore | 20:11 |
| ttx | especially since we lost meaningful intermediary version strings when we switched to git | 20:11 |
| zns | jbryce: I second. | 20:11 |
| johnpur | jbryce: ok | 20:11 |
| jmckenty | +1 | 20:12 |
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| jbryce | ok. thanks guys. talk to you later | 20:12 |
| notmyname | ttx: ya, I think mtaylor's stuff is getting there to solve all that | 20:12 |
| notmyname | mtaylor: so reply to my email review about it :-) | 20:12 |
| ttx | mtaylor: that said, I've more urgent things for your plate, if you feel unused. Like reviving translations. | 20:12 |
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| mtaylor | ttx: that's on there :) | 20:13 |
| mtaylor | notmyname: and I will... | 20:14 |
| Daviey | Is the meeting currently running, or is this a chat? | 20:14 |
| mtaylor | chat | 20:14 |
| ttx | chit-chat. | 20:14 |
| Daviey | ok, cool. Worried i missed something :) | 20:15 |
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| * oubiwann waves at Daviey | 20:18 | |
| Daviey | hey oubiwann o/ | 20:18 |
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| oubiwann | Daviey: I laughed pretty hard with your last comment to that devstack thread on G+ ;-) | 20:18 |
| soren | oubiwann: link? | 20:19 |
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| Daviey | oubiwann: "oops" :) | 20:20 |
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| oubiwann | soren: I suck at G+, so I'll just add another comment and mention you on it, and you should get the link... | 20:21 |
| oubiwann | feature abuse: it's the norm | 20:22 |
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| soren | oubiwann: ta :) | 20:27 |
| oubiwann | soren: ;-) | 20:27 |
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| mtaylor | oubiwann, soren: I can read? | 20:34 |
| soren | I don't know, can you? | 20:35 |
| oubiwann | mtaylor: what's your g+ id? | 20:35 |
| koolhead17 | has meeting allready started? | 20:35 |
| oubiwann | mtaylor: nm,I found it | 20:35 |
| ttx | koolhead17: no | 20:36 |
| koolhead17 | ok. | 20:37 |
| koolhead17 | thanks ttx | 20:37 |
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| ttx | starting in 23 min | 20:37 |
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| Daviey | o/ | 20:59 |
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| ttx | o/ | 21:00 |
| notmyname | hi | 21:00 |
| glenc | \o | 21:00 |
| ttx | zns, jaypipes, vishy, devcamcar: around ? | 21:00 |
| jsavak | \o/ | 21:00 |
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| vishy | yup | 21:00 |
| ttx | jsavak: oh, you replace zns, right | 21:01 |
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| jsavak | ttx: nope - just here to help | 21:01 |
| jsavak | ttx: i think dolph + me would replace him for this one | 21:01 |
| ttx | ok | 21:01 |
| jsavak | (big shoes) | 21:01 |
| ttx | jaypipes, devcamcar: ? | 21:02 |
| ttx | ok, let's start and hopefully they will join us | 21:03 |
| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 22 21:03:15 2011 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:03 |
| ttx | Welcome everyone to our weekly meeting... | 21:03 |
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| ttx | Today's agenda is at: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/TeamMeeting | 21:03 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:03 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Keystone status" | 21:03 | |
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| devcamcar | o/ | 21:03 |
| ttx | dolphm, jsavak: o/ | 21:03 |
| ttx | Looking at: | 21:04 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-2 | 21:04 |
| ttx | dolphm, jsavak: Still on track ? | 21:04 |
| dolphm | i believe so | 21:04 |
| ttx | rbac-keystone was pushed back to essex-3 ? | 21:04 |
| jsavak | yup | 21:05 |
| dolphm | doing some testing with devstack to wrap it up | 21:05 |
| jsavak | ttx: yes - rbac was pushed in favor of more stability work | 21:05 |
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| ttx | How disruptive is rbac ? | 21:05 |
| jsavak | ttx: rbac must be delivered in e-3 as keystone freezes then for essex (all but bug fixes) | 21:05 |
| ttx | Was a bit concerned as it sounded very disruptive and landing it early was probably a good plan :) | 21:05 |
| jsavak | ttx: yup. That's why we need it delivered soon. There is middleware rbac implemented we are waiting on feedback for | 21:06 |
| ttx | ok, early in essex-3 is probably good too. | 21:06 |
| ttx | Do you know who in "HP Cloud Engineering" is working on those Keystone essex-2 blueprints ? | 21:07 |
| jsavak | Jason Raoult & Liem | 21:07 |
| jsavak | not sure their handles | 21:07 |
| ttx | not sure they are on irc | 21:07 |
| ttx | Would be good to get them to refresh status on their blueprint, if needed | 21:08 |
| dolphm | they've mentioned their corporate firewall in the past, regarding IRC :) | 21:08 |
| ttx | .oO | 21:08 |
| jsavak | i'll send them a note | 21:08 |
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| ttx | Looking at the essex roadmap at: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/essex | 21:08 |
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| ttx | Do you expect other features in the essex cycle or is it almost a complete plan ? | 21:08 |
| Ravikumar_hp | ttx: I will also send a note to Jason | 21:08 |
| ttx | Ravikumar_hp: thanks! | 21:09 |
| jsavak | ravi, i'll leave it to you. ;) | 21:09 |
| Ravikumar_hp | ok | 21:09 |
| koolhead17 | corporate firewall :( | 21:09 |
| jsavak | ttx: more bug fixes- but no feature adds are expected. | 21:09 |
| ttx | cool. | 21:09 |
| ttx | Second topic is the tagging of stable/diablo to 2011.3.1 | 21:10 |
| ttx | That was delayed due to missing files in the resulting tarball, which are fixed now | 21:10 |
| ttx | Any last-minute objection before the tag and tarball are done ? | 21:10 |
| jsavak | tag + tar ~= tar + feather? | 21:10 |
| Daviey | If it is confirmed to work with dashboard, then +1 here. | 21:10 |
| Daviey | (and nova ofc.) | 21:10 |
| ttx | devcamcar: I guess you're still ok with it ^ | 21:11 |
| Vek | jsavak: that would make it a featherball, though, rather than a tarball... | 21:11 |
| ttx | OK, will do that tomorrow then. | 21:11 |
| jsavak | vek: ah | 21:11 |
| devcamcar | ttx: we have a bug to fix on the horizon side | 21:11 |
| dolphm | ttx: thanks | 21:11 |
| devcamcar | let me find it | 21:11 |
| Vek | though I suppose it'd be less sticky... | 21:12 |
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| Daviey | devcamcar: Would you mind sending me the bug number please? | 21:12 |
| devcamcar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/891442 | 21:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 891442 in horizon "renaming of api_key causes several unhandled exceptions" [Critical,Confirmed] | 21:12 |
| Daviey | ta | 21:12 |
| devcamcar | that's the only issue i'm aware of | 21:12 |
| ttx | devcamcar: but that's a fix on your side, right | 21:12 |
| devcamcar | yes | 21:12 |
| ttx | jsavak, dolphm: Anything else ? | 21:12 |
| devcamcar | i do wish you guys would stop renaming things though :) | 21:13 |
| jsavak | ttx: nothing from me | 21:13 |
| ttx | devcamcar: amen | 21:13 |
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| ttx | Questions for Keystone ? | 21:13 |
| jsavak | devcamcar: yup. Me too. | 21:13 |
| Vek | I have a note... | 21:13 |
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| ttx | Vek: shoot | 21:13 |
| dolphm | devcamcar: is that bug due to changes in keystone or novaclient? | 21:14 |
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| Vek | it looks like quantum copied auth_token.py entirely when they created their keystone plugin, which means that it didn't get my fix to reduce the number of calls to keystone. | 21:14 |
| devcamcar | dolphm: i'm actually not sure | 21:14 |
| devcamcar | gabriel's notes: "There is a conflation of password and api_key in novaclient which is inappropriate. If you take a look at python-keystoneclient, I actually separated the two because there are cases (at least in keystone) where they need to be handled differently." | 21:14 |
| dolphm | Vek: ah, yeah... that's an issue i'd like to address | 21:15 |
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| devcamcar | so long story short, i'm not sure where the problem is exactly. there seems to be a lot of confusion around password vs api key | 21:15 |
| Vek | indeed :) | 21:15 |
| devcamcar | if you guys have comments you can add to that bug report, it would be appreciated | 21:16 |
| ttx | #action Keystone devs to help with bug/891442 | 21:16 |
| dolphm | devcamcar: can i ping you after this? | 21:16 |
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| ttx | ok, let's move to Swift now | 21:17 |
| devcamcar | dolphm: for sure | 21:17 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:17 |
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| ttx | notmyname: o/ | 21:17 |
| notmyname | hi | 21:17 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.4.4 | 21:17 |
| notmyname | I have news | 21:17 |
| ttx | everybody likes news. | 21:17 |
| notmyname | swift 1.4.4 is delayed. it will be released next tuesday instead of today | 21:17 |
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| ttx | in order to include final fix for bug 887288, right | 21:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 887288 in swift "proxy memory usage grows" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887288 | 21:18 |
| notmyname | we are (literally right now) reviewing a patch that finally fixes the memory leak issue we saw | 21:18 |
| notmyname | rather than doing 1.4.4 today and 1.4.5 next week, we figured it would be better to include it in 1.4.4 and delay by one week | 21:18 |
| soren | Where do you currently think the leak is? | 21:18 |
| soren | In Swift itself? | 21:18 |
| soren | Is it our own fault? Or Python's? Or something else's? | 21:19 |
| notmyname | soren: there were a few issue that were found, both in swift and eventlet | 21:19 |
| notmyname | soren: but the biggest offender is https://review.openstack.org/#change,1801 | 21:19 |
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| notmyname | in swift | 21:19 |
| notmyname | it has to do with python garbage collection | 21:19 |
| notmyname | yay! it was just merged | 21:20 |
| notmyname | just got the email from jenkins | 21:20 |
| notmyname | this issue is one involving sockets keeping memory when a client disconnects | 21:20 |
| notmyname | (disconnects early) | 21:20 |
| ttx | notmyname: if it's successful, please backport to milestone-proposed | 21:20 |
| notmyname | ttx: ya, I need to aks you how to do that. later this afternoon or tomorrow good for you? | 21:21 |
| jaypipes | notmyname: http://wiki.openstack.org/GerritJenkinsGithub#Submit_Changes_in_master_to_milestone-proposed | 21:21 |
| ttx | notmyname: see | 21:22 |
| ttx | ah | 21:22 |
| notmyname | thanks | 21:22 |
| ttx | jay was fatser | 21:22 |
| ttx | or faster | 21:22 |
| jaypipes | I'm fatter as well | 21:22 |
| ttx | I blame the late hour. | 21:22 |
| notmyname | I'll try to get that soon | 21:22 |
| ttx | notmyname: Anything else ? | 21:22 |
| notmyname | nope | 21:22 |
| ttx | Questions on Swift ? | 21:22 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:23 |
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| ttx | jaypipes: yo | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | ttx: oy | 21:23 |
| * ttx looks at https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-2 with anxiety | 21:23 | |
| ttx | .. you made it ! | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | ttx: nothing really to report... I retargeted blueprints to E3 | 21:23 |
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| jaypipes | ttx: working on fixing bugs... if anyone in glance-core has some free time, there's a bunch of reviews needed | 21:24 |
| ttx | jaypipes: looks good and on track to me | 21:24 |
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| jaypipes | also, I'm 50% done with the next draft of the 2.0 API proposal... incorporating a bunch of feedback from HP and Jorge. | 21:24 |
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| ttx | jaypipes: now looking at the general essex plan at: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/essex | 21:24 |
| ttx | Two blueprints are in plan but without a milestone set: | 21:24 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/glance-xml | 21:25 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/gzip-compression | 21:25 |
| ttx | Should we unset the series goal for them, until someone commits to do them ? | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | ttx: I'll handle that. thanks for the heads up. | 21:25 |
| ttx | thx | 21:25 |
| ttx | jaypipes: Anything else ? | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | ttx: I'm thinking I need to create a blueprint for this dang 2.0 API proposal :) and make the other crap dependent on it! | 21:25 |
| ttx | yes that could help in showing the relationship. | 21:26 |
| Vek | jaypipes: isn't there already one on that page ttx pasted? | 21:26 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/api-2 ? | 21:26 |
| jaypipes | Vek: that's the implementation of the proposal. | 21:26 |
| Vek | ah. | 21:26 |
| ttx | Questions on Glance ? | 21:26 |
| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:27 |
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| ttx | vishy: yo | 21:27 |
| vishy | hi | 21:27 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-2 | 21:27 |
| jaypipes | if anyone that works on devstack is here, would appreciate a look into this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/893692 | 21:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 893692 in devstack "stack.sh fails with ImportError in glance add" [Undecided,New] | 21:27 |
| vishy | so I'm collecing status updates for all of the blueprints | 21:28 |
| ttx | vishy: looks globally on track to me | 21:28 |
| vishy | looks like we're pretty good for the higher priority ones | 21:28 |
| ttx | vishy: do you agree to have quantum-nat-parity in the essex plan ? | 21:28 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/quantum-nat-parity | 21:28 |
| ttx | If yes, what priority ? | 21:28 |
| vishy | tr3buchet: are you here? | 21:29 |
| danwent | ttx: this is actually a very small feature | 21:29 |
| vishy | that is fine for low | 21:29 |
| ttx | I tried to ping bhall for updated status | 21:29 |
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| danwent | just letting QuantumManager talk to existing linux_net.py L3 + NAT code | 21:29 |
| tr3buchet | vishy: yes | 21:29 |
| ttx | is it "not started" ? | 21:29 |
| vishy | i just approved it | 21:29 |
| bhall | ttx: sorry, just saw your message | 21:29 |
| vishy | w/ low | 21:29 |
| ttx | bhall: started ? not started ? | 21:30 |
| bhall | starting soon | 21:30 |
| * ttx sets "Not started" :) | 21:30 | |
| vishy | so i sent an email encouraging subteam leads to start targeting e-3 | 21:30 |
| vishy | hopefully we will see that one a little bit clearer | 21:30 |
| vishy | I'm trying to focus on major features changes in by e-3 | 21:30 |
| vishy | so we can stabilize e-4 | 21:31 |
| tr3buchet | ttx: isn't that the one we discussed, and me not being able to set status? | 21:31 |
| ttx | tr3buchet: yes | 21:31 |
| vishy | we stil have 2 essential blueprints not targetted | 21:31 |
| vishy | those have to get in by e-3 | 21:31 |
| ttx | right, I wanted to askj you about them | 21:31 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/separate-nova-volumeapi | 21:32 |
| vishy | I would love a volunteer to do this one: separate-nova-volumeapi | 21:32 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/disk-configuration-parity | 21:32 |
| vishy | actually i need a voulunteer for both | 21:32 |
| ttx | #help volunteer needed for separate-nova-volumeapi and disk-configuration-parity | 21:32 |
| vishy | pvo: is there anyone on your team that can take disk-configuration-parity? | 21:32 |
| westmaas | what time frame, vish? | 21:33 |
| ttx | e3. January 26. | 21:33 |
| vishy | westmaas: need it by e3 | 21:33 |
| vishy | (and the sooner the better of course) | 21:33 |
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| westmaas | sorry, I don't know that we can commit today, but pvo and I will talk next week and see if we think we can work on it, will report back next week if no one else has taken it | 21:34 |
| westmaas | I know he expressed some interest | 21:34 |
| vishy | westmaas: do you know if there are any more proposals coming for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/internal-uuids ? | 21:34 |
| westmaas | yes, lots | 21:34 |
| tr3buchet | vishy: i can follow up with the guys here about the disk-configuration-parity blueprint, a lot of us are out this week | 21:34 |
| vishy | westmaas: will they all make it by e-2? | 21:35 |
| * ttx watches the titan teal explode the column width at http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/ | 21:35 | |
| ttx | team* | 21:35 |
| vishy | tr3buchet, westmaas: thanks. It isn't a lot of changes | 21:35 |
| westmaas | vishy: yes should be in by e2 | 21:35 |
| westmaas | hoping next week | 21:35 |
| ttx | vishy: Anything else ? | 21:36 |
| westmaas | ttx: haha sorry :) | 21:36 |
| vishy | i think that is it for now | 21:36 |
| ttx | Nova subteam leads: anything you want to mention ? | 21:36 |
| vishy | looks like most people are out this week | 21:36 |
| vishy | oh one more thing | 21:36 |
| vishy | I still have no one taking on the operational support team | 21:36 |
| vishy | i think admin functionality is going to suffer if no one takes it | 21:37 |
| ttx | vishy: did you follow up on adding the most active subteam leads to "nova-drivers" ? | 21:37 |
| vishy | ttx: I haven't added them to drivers yet no | 21:37 |
| vishy | I will add them | 21:37 |
| vishy | at least tr3buchet sleepsonthefloor and bcwaldon | 21:38 |
| vishy | since they are doing a lot of blueprint management | 21:38 |
| ttx | vishy: I would raise a ML thread about "is operational support important in Nova", wait for a few people to take the bait and then close the net. | 21:38 |
| Vek | heh. | 21:38 |
| ttx | Questions on Nova ? | 21:39 |
| tr3buchet | not unless maybe sorens testing thread | 21:39 |
| tr3buchet | should be discussed a bit | 21:39 |
| devcamcar | good idea | 21:39 |
| soren | Ah. /me defers his trip to the bath room | 21:39 |
| devcamcar | there was some discussion around fake db vs sqlalchemy/mox | 21:39 |
| devcamcar | i think fake db makes a lot of sense | 21:40 |
| devcamcar | if you're talking about unit tests | 21:40 |
| devcamcar | you want to test the actual db implementations separately (integration tests) | 21:40 |
| tr3buchet | right | 21:40 |
| devcamcar | otherwise you run tests against one db driver (sqlalchemy is all we have today, but tomorrow?) and get a false sense of security | 21:40 |
| vishy | soren's plan is +1 from me | 21:40 |
| tr3buchet | i guess my only worry is keeping the fakes true to the originals | 21:40 |
| soren | Ok, once more: | 21:40 |
| * ttx gives you 5 minutes and then you'll continue on #openstack-dev :) | 21:40 | |
| devcamcar | unit tests with fake db, integration tests for each db implementation seems reasonable | 21:40 |
| tr3buchet | but otherwise i'm for it | 21:40 |
| soren | I'll provide a test suite that you can run against the real and fake db drivers. | 21:41 |
| soren | Why is that not enough reassurance that the fake will be true to the real drivers? | 21:41 |
| devcamcar | +1 | 21:41 |
| tr3buchet | oops, i guess i missed that | 21:41 |
| soren | Ok, good :) | 21:41 |
| tr3buchet | yeah that solves that then | 21:42 |
| soren | \o/ | 21:42 |
| devcamcar | with 3 minutes to spare!! | 21:42 |
| ttx | everyone seems to agree. Where is conflict ? | 21:42 |
| tr3buchet | high fives all around | 21:42 |
| * ttx is disappointed. | 21:42 | |
| soren | I'd be scared shitless without a test suite for it. :) | 21:42 |
| devcamcar | i just saw a f'ing unicorn dude | 21:42 |
| tr3buchet | yeah good, cause that's how i felt | 21:42 |
| soren | devcamcar: shoot it! | 21:42 |
| ttx | that's because Sandy is not around. | 21:42 |
| devcamcar | good eats tonight | 21:42 |
| tr3buchet | yeah true | 21:42 |
| ttx | ok then. | 21:42 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:42 |
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| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/essex-2 | 21:42 |
| ttx | devcamcar: Not so many things completed yet, still feeling confident ? | 21:42 |
| devcamcar | all bugs / blueprints assigned | 21:43 |
| devcamcar | ttx: yes | 21:43 |
| devcamcar | most of the bugs are quick fixes | 21:43 |
| devcamcar | we are actually making some great progress | 21:43 |
| devcamcar | we rebased the css/javascript ui bits around bootstrap, which was a big piece of plumbing | 21:43 |
| devcamcar | http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ | 21:43 |
| devcamcar | lots to be done still on visual design, but structurally we are looking good | 21:44 |
| devcamcar | http://c213515.r15.cf1.rackcdn.com/516c58fe8dd6651259c55d909e65b3b8.png | 21:44 |
| devcamcar | work in progress screenshot | 21:44 |
| devcamcar | color schemes are not final, and table refactors not done, but this is a working version that uses the bootstrap framework | 21:44 |
| devcamcar | so actually things are going quite well | 21:44 |
| ttx | Looking at the general essex plan at: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/essex | 21:45 |
| ttx | Looks good to me -- is it a near-complete list ? | 21:45 |
| devcamcar | ttx: yes | 21:45 |
| ttx | devcamcar: also, do you confirm that https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/dashboard-plugin-support is superseded and should be removed from the list ? | 21:45 |
| devcamcar | ttx: yes, superseded by a superior implementation | 21:46 |
| * ttx removes | 21:46 | |
| devcamcar | there's still a few blueprints trickling in | 21:46 |
| ttx | devcamcar: Anything else ? | 21:46 |
| devcamcar | such as migrating to django 1.4 in essex-4 | 21:46 |
| devcamcar | now that we have some confidence around the release date | 21:46 |
| devcamcar | but nothing major | 21:46 |
| devcamcar | that's it! | 21:47 |
| ttx | devcamcar: adding more as they come up is ok, but having a 80% complete plan by now is also good | 21:47 |
| devcamcar | ttx: definitely at 80% at least | 21:47 |
| ttx | Questions for Horizon ? | 21:47 |
| koolhead17 | hi devcamcar | 21:47 |
| devcamcar | koolhead17: howdy! | 21:47 |
| ttx | koolhead17: got a question ? | 21:47 |
| koolhead17 | devcamcar: am awesome | 21:47 |
| koolhead17 | ttx: yes | 21:47 |
| ttx | speak! | 21:48 |
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| koolhead17 | i wanted to know if the dependency of dash with quantum and glance going to continue? | 21:48 |
| koolhead17 | as in the dash package | 21:48 |
| devcamcar | koolhead17: hopefully not, we are still evaluating the best way to tackle that | 21:48 |
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| devcamcar | so i'd say we are in discussion phase of how best to accomplish that | 21:49 |
| devcamcar | it's certainly our goal | 21:49 |
| devcamcar | sorry, bit of a non-aswer :) | 21:49 |
| koolhead17 | devcamcar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/888385 | 21:49 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 888385 in horizon "Failure when installing Dashboard - python tools/install_venv.py" [High,Confirmed] | 21:49 |
| koolhead17 | all because quantum here :( | 21:49 |
| koolhead17 | devcamcar: thanks :D | 21:50 |
| Daviey | devcamcar: I think the real question is, will quantum be a hard depends of horizon? | 21:50 |
| devcamcar | koolhead17: your idea is probably the only practical solution though | 21:50 |
| mtaylor | koolhead17, devcamcar: I was going to look at that bug above and for ways to deal with it some | 21:50 |
| mtaylor | but I haven't gotten to it yet | 21:50 |
| ttx | talking about quantum... | 21:50 |
| devcamcar | Daviey: no, we'll figure out a way. i'm not positive we'll solve this problem in essex-2 though | 21:51 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated projects and other Team reports | 21:51 |
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| koolhead17 | devcamcar: i want to run dash on my small 512 RAM box, i dont want to install quantum/glance on it :D | 21:51 |
| Daviey | devcamcar: can it just be removed until it's redady to.. | 21:51 |
| Daviey | okay, nevermind :) | 21:51 |
| ttx | danwent, troytoman: o/ | 21:51 |
| danwent | hello | 21:51 |
| devcamcar | Daviey, koolheady17: i will discuss with you outside meeting soon | 21:51 |
| danwent | quantum dev is back up and humming at full speed for essex-2: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-2 | 21:52 |
| koolhead17 | devcamcar: awesome!! :D | 21:52 |
| mtaylor | devcamcar, koolhead17: one of the other issues that will help there is getting python-glanceclient and python-quantumclient split out so that you can just install client api libraries | 21:52 |
| danwent | release is probably too full given the time left, so we'll be working to make sure dev work is feasible and moving to e-3 if not | 21:52 |
| ttx | danwent: yep, that's a large plate already | 21:52 |
| koolhead17 | mtaylor: +1 | 21:53 |
| danwent | mtaylor: we've already done some of the work to make it possible to install quantum client separately | 21:53 |
| danwent | happy to chat more about it offline | 21:53 |
| ttx | Any other team lead with a status report ? | 21:53 |
| danwent | ttx: other than that, we'll be sycing with the horizon folks about some new features we'd like to integrate | 21:53 |
| danwent | syncing | 21:53 |
| mtaylor | danwent: ++ | 21:53 |
| danwent | that's alls | 21:53 |
| ttx | danwent: sounds good | 21:54 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion" | 21:55 | |
| ttx | In other news, the "OpenStack" devroom at FOSDEM had been merged with other projects in a large, 2-day "Open source virtualization and cloud" devroom | 21:55 |
| ttx | The CFP should be sent... tomorrow. | 21:55 |
| ttx | mtaylor: as far as CI goes, I'd like us to fix translations and set up the client splits for E2, does that match your schedule ? | 21:56 |
| mtaylor | ttx: I will make it match my schedule | 21:56 |
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| ttx | Anything else, anyone ? | 21:56 |
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| ttx | looks like we are 3 minutes short | 21:57 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 21:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 22 21:57:59 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-22-21.03.html | 21:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-22-21.03.txt | 21:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-22-21.03.log.html | 21:58 |
| danwent | early ttx :) | 21:58 |
| ttx | probably the fault of that aborted conflict. | 21:58 |
| danwent | :) | 21:58 |
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| danwent | hello netstack | 22:00 |
| danwent | happy almost turkey day | 22:00 |
| danwent | #startmeeting | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 22 22:01:07 2011 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 22:01 |
| danwent | #link Agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 22:01 |
| danwent | is anybody here? | 22:01 |
| carlp | o/ | 22:01 |
| danwent | salv is out today | 22:01 |
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| danwent | well, its going to be a short meeting anyway | 22:02 |
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| danwent | is troy around to talk about melange? | 22:02 |
| edgarmagana | hi | 22:02 |
| tr3buchet | troy is out | 22:02 |
| tr3buchet | unless he's on just for this | 22:02 |
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| danwent | tr3buchet: you able to provide a melange update? | 22:03 |
| danwent | or would that be someone else? | 22:03 |
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| tr3buchet | hmm | 22:03 |
| tr3buchet | i'm not supre current on it | 22:04 |
| danwent | ok, we'll just move to quantum | 22:04 |
| tr3buchet | good plan | 22:04 |
| danwent | #topic quantum status | 22:04 |
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| danwent | this shoudl be quick: | 22:04 |
| danwent | #info essex-2 plan | 22:04 |
| danwent | https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-2 | 22:04 |
| danwent | salv is out, but he wanted me to provide an update on his API work | 22:04 |
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| danwent | #info from salv: I am confident to be able to propose Operational Status by Nov 30th and Filters by Dec 7th. | 22:05 |
| danwent | I suspec that both changes will require some enhancements to the plugins to work correctly | 22:05 |
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| danwent | so we're trying to figure out if we will have time to make the corresponding plugin changes in essex-2 as well, or whether we should wait until essex-3, when we can submit both the API and the plugin implementations together (would be silly to release new API code without plugin implementations) | 22:06 |
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| danwent | I also talked with some folks from the cisco team, and they are planning on doing some horizon work in the essex-2, essex-3 timeframe, which is great. | 22:07 |
| danwent | #todo #danwent update launchpad to reflect horizon plans | 22:07 |
| danwent | Carlp: status update on jenkins environment? | 22:08 |
| danwent | I'm hoping to put together some very simple integration tests just so we can get things up and running. | 22:08 |
| danwent | would be great to have a jenkins environment that was constantly pulling the latest nova + quantum | 22:08 |
| carlp | We can do that | 22:09 |
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| danwent | I can provide a simple initial set of tests. | 22:09 |
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| danwent | Ok, just so people know, essex-2 is Dec. 15th, which isn't all that far away considering thanksgiving | 22:09 |
| carlp | Basically, jenkins just runs a series of scripts So if we can script downloading and running anything, jenkins can do it. | 22:10 |
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| mtaylor | yes | 22:10 |
| danwent | we probably have a bit more targeted for essex-2 than we can manage. I'll probably be pinging a few people to make sure we nail down some blueprints or bump them to e-3 | 22:10 |
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| danwent | carlp: ok, could you perhaps create a starter script that fetches nova, glance, novaclient, and quantum? then I will just insert some simple tests? I will send an email to the list with more ideas | 22:11 |
| danwent | is there any other work folks were planning on targeting for e-2 that is not currently targetted for the milestone? | 22:12 |
| carlp | danwent: devstack work for you? | 22:12 |
| edgarmagana | dan: can we still add a bluprint for e-2? | 22:13 |
| danwent | carlp: sounds like a good place to start | 22:13 |
| carlp | I've been playing with it here at the office, and devstack already does all that | 22:13 |
| carlp | ok! | 22:13 |
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| danwent | carlp: so have we. would you be doing a clean install on "bare-metal"? that's the only mode I've used so far, but it works well for me. | 22:13 |
| carlp | danwent: Yep, that's how I would be using it. Clean install on bare metal. | 22:14 |
| danwent | edgarmagana: you can stil target items for e-2, anytime in the next week should be fine, but after that we'll want to start locking things down | 22:14 |
| danwent | carlp: sounds good. | 22:14 |
| edgarmagana | #dan: I am working on a network services insertion (wrapper) and I was wondering if we can added on e-2 or e-3? | 22:15 |
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| danwent | edgarmagana: i'd send out a BP so we can gauge the complexity + review work required. | 22:15 |
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| edgarmagana | da: sounds good.. will do that | 22:16 |
| danwent | and potential interactions with other e-2 changes. if there aren't any problems on that front and you can get it done well in advance of the date, it should be fine for e-2 | 22:16 |
| danwent | Last comment on quantum. | 22:16 |
| danwent | #info some reviews are piling up: https://review.openstack.org/#q,status:open+project:openstack/quantum,n,z | 22:16 |
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| danwent | while you're eating turkey (or whatever) over the weekend, please take a look at a few, so we don't have a big backlog when the larger e-2 features hit | 22:17 |
| danwent | other than that, any other questions/comments on quantum? | 22:17 |
| danwent | #topic open discussion | 22:17 |
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| bhall | danwent: another good opportunity for reviews would be during commercials if you're watching football | 22:17 |
| danwent | enroute to our fastest netstack meeting ever, any open discussion | 22:18 |
| danwent | bhall: yes, as long as they are short reviews… otherwise keeping the contex in your head between commercials may be hard :) | 22:18 |
| bhall | yaeh | 22:18 |
| bhall | commercials seem to be pretty long these days though | 22:18 |
| danwent | good thing salv wasn't here, otherwise we'd have to clarify that we meant "american football" | 22:18 |
| danwent | ok, thanks folks! | 22:19 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 22:19 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 22 22:19:09 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-22-22.01.html | 22:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-22-22.01.txt | 22:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-11-22-22.01.log.html | 22:19 |
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| cdub | hmm, looks like netsplit at just the wrong time | 22:23 |
| danwent | cdub: need something? | 22:25 |
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| cdub | danwent: was wondering if there's a description of the new scr tree layout changes (more than "for packaging") | 22:26 |
| cdub | src tree even | 22:26 |
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| danwent | cdub: I think we're going to try and improve on the src tree layout in essex-2. the original changes for packaging made the layout pretty cumbersome. | 22:27 |
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| cdub | yes it did | 22:27 |
| danwent | bhall is going to work on improving it. | 22:27 |
| cdub | thank you! | 22:27 |
| danwent | is there a particular concern that you'd like to address. or some work that you'd like to do? | 22:27 |
| cdub | well, between actual packaging (for Fedora we won't use bdist) as well as just plain daily coding...it seems it could be flattened | 22:28 |
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| cdub | w/out reintroducing namespace/import issues (like we had w/ extensions being toplevel) | 22:29 |
| cdub | so, nothing concrete, just wondering if there's some more python-centric reasoning for the layout | 22:29 |
| danwent | no good one, as far as I can tell :) | 22:29 |
| danwent | want to email bhall? he can provide more details and work with you to make sure things are happy with fedora | 22:30 |
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| cdub | sure, will do that | 22:31 |
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| danwent | thx | 22:32 |
| cdub | np | 22:32 |
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