Tuesday, 2011-12-20

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Davieyzul: hola15:00
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zulDaviey: no meeting today me thinks...nothing to discuss15:00
zulgo back to enjoy your "holidays"15:00
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bcwaldonI'm here to listen in15:01
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Davieybcwaldon: Enjoy the sound of silence.. peace, tranquility15:02
zulstill nothing on the agenda but merry christmas and happy holidays15:02
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bcwaldonI like it15:02
* Daviey wonders if it is worth cycling the bot for that15:02
zulwell then people will keep asking if there is a meeting or not and then i can say yes you just missed it15:03
zulno meeting next week either since i will be away15:04
Davieyzul: The minutes suggest that bcwaldon and I were not present.15:04
bcwaldondamn it!15:04
DavieyWe were, dammit.. The minutes are not a true reflection of what happend.15:04
bcwaldonwe needed to say at least one thing15:04
DavieyI demand satisfaction.15:04
zulwere you really present both physically and mentally?15:04
bcwaldonwell, I was kinda doing something else15:05
DavieyI've been mentally absent for some time... but it's the physical stuff that matters.15:05
bcwaldonthere's nothing physical about irc15:05
zulsure there is, you are at your keyboard15:05
bcwaldonor am i15:05
zuli dunno thats why i asked15:06
bcwaldonor did you15:06
bcwaldonNo I am. Sitting in a coffee shop. Using my 'keyboard'15:06
zulheh i so need to do that15:07
Davieybcwaldon: If that is a euphemism, you are liable to be thrown out of the coffee shop.15:07
bcwaldonIt's cool, I'm a regular here15:08
bcwaldonthey just look the other way15:08
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zuli will as well15:09
bcwaldongood man15:10
zulback to figuring out how to get volumes working for lxc15:10
bcwaldongood luck!15:11
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joesavakwho's here for the keystone meeting at noon?17:58
zns#startmeeting Keystone Team Meeting17:58
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znsI am17:58
* joesavak waves17:59
zns*waves back*17:59
znsHi Joe. ANyone else here?17:59
pvoI'm just lurking though18:00
joesavakhi pvo18:00
pvohey hey18:00
znsHi pvo. Lurkers welcome.18:00
zns#topic E318:00
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znsLet's start.18:00
joesavak#link e3: https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-318:00
znsFor E3, we're starting to target blueprints and bugs. See here for latest list: https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-318:00
zns* joesavak steals thunder *18:01
joesavakjust call me zeus18:02
znsMuch discussions going on about shared CLI Auth across clients. See http://wiki.openstack.org/CLIAuth. CLient consistency will be a focus for E3.18:02
znsMuch of the focus for Essex remains on stability and operationalization.18:02
znsWe are considering pushing RBAC back to F (not deliver in Essex). However, we'll keep working on :18:04
znsThere is a progression of growth for RBAC:18:04
zns* adding to nova/glance/swift hooks (nova only had it in the ec2 api,18:04
znswe need to move the checks to a more core location to check in both18:04
znsthe ec2 and openstack api)18:04
zns* loading static rulesets in services (what we did in nova since the18:04
znsfirst release)18:04
zns* sending static rulesets from keystone to services (push vs. pull or ...)18:04
zns* CRUD for management of dynamic rules18:04
znsand we're considering doing the first two only (so no work in Keystone).18:05
znsFor thiose interested in RBAC, we have the following out there for review:18:05
zns1. There is a blueprint out there: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/rbac-keystone18:05
zns2. We have a prototype for the middleware that shows what it would send down to Nova (and other services): see email below with links and highlighted JSON sample response.18:05
zns3. We have the API that Dashboard and other users could use defined here: https://review.openstack.org/#change,124318:05
znsThe consideration driving not doing it in Essex is the time needed to get alignment and input from all other projects and teams. So far, this has not been high on peoples list (evidenced by the lack of response to our proposals).18:06
znsANy questions?18:07
joesavakshould we push that review through or wait until the impl?18:07
znsI think we should not push it through uintil it actually has a working implementation behind it. It's only a proposal now and should not be in the release code.18:08
joesavakcool. So there is no keystone work required for the nova/glance/swift hooks? I thought this was part of their respective middleware?18:08
znspvo: can you approve https://review.openstack.org/#change,182518:09
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znsNot sure how they want to code the static files. If we need to do something in the middleware we can do that easily. I think implementing the CRUD and response in Keystone is what would need a multi-team effort.18:10
joesavakyup -ok18:10
zns#topic General Q & A18:10
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pvozns: sure. May get merge conflicts.18:10
znsAnything else anyone wants to discuss?18:11
znspvo: painful. That one's been lingering. I can resolve them if needed.18:11
pvosure thing.18:11
znsEnding meeting if no more Keystone questions. Thanks all!18:11
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joesavaki'll update the wiki for meeting minutes18:12
znsjoesavak: thank you!18:12
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pvozns: 2 conflicts.18:14
pvoone in setup.py and the other in novaclient/shell.py18:15
znsWith trunk? I got none...18:15
pvosetup should be easyfix18:15
pvowith novaclient trunk?18:15
pvoI just fetched and merged18:15
pvoand got a conflict18:15
znsI fetched and rebased, but the fetch only had a change in README.rst18:15
pvolooks like there were 2 commits yesetrday18:16
znsAh - I think I pulled from the wrong repo.18:16
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znspvo: redone - https://review.openstack.org/#change,182518:32
pvozns: standby18:33
znspvo: updated the merge.18:34
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mtaylorhey all ... CI meeting?19:01
zns* lurking *19:03
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mtaylorso, I don't personally have a huge amount today as I'm travelling and stuff... jeblair you wanna loop people in on the gerrit stuff?19:04
mtaylor#topic Gerrit Workflow tweaks19:04
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jeblairwe want to upgrade jenkins and the gerrit trigger plugin, which will give us some new features in jenkins, and allow us to address some issues with the current workflow.19:04
jeblairsince we're proposing some changes to the development workflow, i've written a draft email outlining what we want to do:19:04
jeblairmaybe take a minute and review that, and we can answer questions19:05
jeblairthough, er, the only people here who haven't read that are "lurking"... :/19:05
* mtaylor waits19:06
jeblairit's probably okay to just read the 1st paragraph and the "Proposed Workflow changes:" section at the end19:06
jeblairthe rest is exposition19:06
mtaylorwelp. if nobody has any objections...19:08
jeblairi'll send it out to the mailing list then19:09
mtaylorthat's all I've got. anybody else?19:09
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ttxI doubt we'll have a meeting today, no news from the chair.20:03
pvoI was going to suggest we move these to monthly.20:04
jk0it's not like we couldn't call an 'emergency'  meeting if something urgent came up20:04
notmynameright now they are "Weekly as needed"20:04
ttxpvo: yeah, we could do monthly + more if needed20:04
pvoI don't think we've had an agenda or real meeting for the past month.20:05
jk0seems like we spend more time figuring out if we are having a meeting.. than actually having the meeting20:05
ttxpvo: maybe make your suggestion to the poc list20:06
pvottx: will do20:06
ttxpvo: we used to have a backlog of stuff we couldn't finish with one hour per week20:06
ttxbut the middle of the cycle is naturally lighter20:07
pvosure. not upset, just want to use time wisely.20:07
ttxno chair, no agenda and only 4 members, I think we can safely call it off.20:08
ttxSee you next hour.20:08
pvolater all.20:09
znsSorry gang. Got held up. Looks like we we're not meeting...20:19
ewanmellorYep, been and gone.20:21
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ttxwho do we have ? notmyname, jaypipes, devcamcar ?21:00
* Vek waves21:00
jsavakhere 221:00
ttxbcwaldon will stand in for vishy, and maybe for jaypipes if he doesn't show up.21:01
bcwaldonlike a boss21:01
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ttxok, let's get started, maybe devcamcar will join us21:02
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ttxWelcome everyone to what is probably our last weekly meeting of 2011...21:02
ttxToday's agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/TeamMeeting21:02
ttxShould be a quick one.21:02
ttx#topic Actions from previous meeting21:03
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ttx* ttx to discuss options for getting a sane list of reviews with CI guys21:03
ttxstill TODO, sorry about that21:03
ttx#action ttx to discuss options for getting a sane list of reviews with CI guys21:03
ttx* vishy to properly resurrect public-and-private-dns and target it21:03
ttxThat was done21:03
ttx* ttx to give danwent/troytoman more information on release process21:04
ttxThat was done -- we also decided that we'll try to get Quantum, and maybe Melange, handled by the release team for E321:04
ttxSee more about that later in the meeting.21:04
ttx#topic Keystone status21:04
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znsThree announcements/updates:21:04
zns1. Updated E3 targets:21:04
znsirc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#link Keystone E3: https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-321:04
zns2. Much discussions going on about shared CLI Auth across clients. See http://wiki.openstack.org/CLIAuth. Client consistency will be a focus for E3.21:04
zns3. Much of the focus for Essex remains on stability and operationalization.21:05
znsActually, there were 4.21:05
zns4. We are considering pushing RBAC back to F (not deliver in Essex).21:05
notmynamezns: why #4?21:05
ttxbcwaldon, notmyname: would that (4) affect you negatively ?21:05
znsnotmyname: The consideration driving not doing it in Essex is the time needed to get alignment and input from all other projects and teams. So far, this has not been high on peoples list (evidenced by the lack of response to our proposals).21:06
znsFor thise interested in RBAC, we have the following out there for review:21:06
zns1. There is a blueprint out there: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/rbac-keystone21:06
zns2. We have a prototype for the middleware that shows what it would send down to Nova (and other services): see email below with links and highlighted JSON sample response.21:06
zns3. We have the API that Dashboard and other users could use defined here: https://review.openstack.org/#change,124321:06
znsIf anyone wants to drive that, feel free.21:06
bcwaldonWe really want RBAC in Nova in Essex21:06
bcwaldonlooking at you, anotherjesse21:06
znsQuoting anotherjesse:21:06
znshere is a progression of growth for RBAC:21:06
zns* adding to nova/glance/swift hooks (nova only had it in the ec2 api,21:06
znswe need to move the checks to a more core location to check in both21:06
znsthe ec2 and openstack api)21:06
zns* loading static rulesets in services (what we did in nova since the21:06
znsfirst release)21:06
zns* sending static rulesets from keystone to services (push vs. pull or ...)21:06
zns* CRUD for management of dynamic rules21:06
ttxhe is not around :)21:06
znsand we're considering doing the first two only (so no work in Keystone).21:06
znsbcwaldon: I agree qith you BTW, just want to be realistic about what we can get done by Jan 26...21:07
ttxzns: could you raise a thread on the mailing-list about that ? At the very minimum it will help getting the information out there... and it may get you some help.21:07
znsSure. Will do.21:08
ttx#action zns the raise a thread on the ML about RBAC potentially being deferred to F21:08
znsPlanning on it actually, which is why I have not moved the BP's out of E3 in launchpad.21:08
ttxzns: I see three BPs have unknown status. Does that mean they're just not started ?21:08
ttxhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-client (dolphm)21:08
ttxhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-manage2 (dolphm)21:09
ttxhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-logging (joeheck)21:09
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znsThey might be new. We should probably set them to drafting or discussion.21:09
ttxzns: That last one also has no priority. Should I set it to Low ?21:09
ttxzns: no, I was talking about the implementation field21:10
znsttx: I just set it to medium. It's an important feature...21:10
ttx"Unknown" vs. "Not started" or "Started"21:10
ttxor "Good progress" etc.21:10
znsI set them to Not Started for now. I'll follow up with assignees/owners.21:10
* ttx doesn't like the unknown. Thx!21:11
ttxzns: Anything else ?21:11
znsttx: no. that's it!21:11
ttxQuestions for Keystone ?21:11
ttxzns: i'll mark RBAC "slow progress" to show that it's being questioned.21:12
ttx#topic Swift status21:12
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ttxnotmyname: o/21:12
notmynameI don't think I have anything to report21:13
Vekthat was swift.21:13
ttxCool. Happy holidays, then.21:13
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ttxnotmyname: i guess you'll have a better idea of when the next Swift will hit at the beginning of January ?21:14
ttxor is there nothing yet justifying it ?21:14
notmynameya. most of our internal dev effort has been around product stuff, so there hasn't been anything compelling in swift itself yet21:14
ttxOther questions on Swift ?21:15
ttx#topic Glance status21:15
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ttxNo Jay.21:15
ttxbcwaldon: let's have a quick look at https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-321:16
bcwaldonIt looks like Jay has targeted all of the Images API v2 blueprints at essex-321:16
bcwaldonbut very few of them are assigned21:16
ttxyes, and most of them have no assignee... does he plan to do them all ?*21:16
bcwaldonso with that in mind, if anybody is interested in helping out with this hefty task, please talk to jaypipes or me21:16
bcwaldonWe need to get it done BY essex-3, so we will absolutely need help21:17
ttxI suspect the status is correct, i.e. most of them are not started ?21:17
ttxbcwaldon: what is plan B if everything can't get in ?21:17
ttxbcwaldon: can it land half-done ?21:18
bcwaldonHaven't talked to jaypipes about that, he's been handling most of it on his own21:18
ttxor is it a big chunk ?21:18
bcwaldonI'd suspect we just ship with a partial implementation in a BETA state21:18
bcwaldonI'm not sure if the new architecture is compatibile with the v1 api, so we may just HAVE to get it done21:18
ttxbcwaldon: looks like you shouldn't commit on too much on Nova's side, since you may be needed on Glance's side :)21:19
ttxAny news of Stuart on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/multi-process-server ?21:19
bcwaldonthat was just proposed today, so I'm not worried about anything21:19
ttxbcwaldon: oh, code was proposed. cool.21:20
bcwaldonttx: right, can you update the bp status to reflect that21:20
ttxbcwaldon: Any other remark ?21:21
bcwaldonttx: nope, I just need to catch up with jay at some point regarding this v2 stuff21:21
ttxQuestions on Glance ?21:22
ttx#topic Nova status21:22
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bcwaldonvishy asked me to remind everyone that we need to focus on getting all our feature blueprints done in the essex-3 timeframe. After that, we are going to focus on stabilization (bugfixes, testing, etc). We won't be accepting features after January 26th!21:22
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-321:22
bcwaldonAnd it looks like everything targeted at essex-3 is assigned21:22
ttxyes, status and plan generally look good.21:22
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bcwaldonthe subteam leads have been helping quite a bit with bp triaging21:23
russellbso essex 3 will get tagged on jan 26th?21:23
ttxrussellb: yes -- http://wiki.openstack.org/EssexReleaseSchedule21:23
russellbok, thanks.21:23
ttxmarkwash_ wanted to talk about Trusted computing21:24
ttxmarkwash_: floor is yours...21:24
markwash_So, I have been working with fred yang on the trusted computing blueprint issues21:24
* markwash_ starts pasting21:24
markwash_basically the trusted computing branch adds a long lived component to nova21:25
markwash_the main purpose of this component appears to be to add async and caching on top of the HTTP api they are building for host verification21:25
markwash_I have some problems with the implementation and I have been working with Fred Yang to address these issues, but encountering difficulty21:25
markwash_and I do not want to act unilaterally if there is no nova-core consensus against the approach in the branch I linked21:25
markwash_so I want to ask us to reconsider the blueprint as it stands, and require adjustments to it if there is now consensus against it21:25
ttxmarkwash_: I suspect you won't get enough nova-core quorum in this meeting today to take a decision21:26
markwash_yeah, I was afraid of that :-)21:26
ttxmarkwash_: I remeber there was a trusted computing thread on the ML, was that question raised ?21:27
markmcmarkwash_, I'm fine with it in principle, but it needs to be less invasive to the scheduler21:27
bcwaldonttx, markwash_: yep, I know I personally agree with you, and I suspect other members of nova-core will, too21:27
markwash_I did not explicitly raise the question of reconsidering the bp21:27
bcwaldonmarkmc: exactly, I think that's the right attitude to have21:27
markwash_markmc: totally agree21:27
markmcmarkwash_, I suggested host verification should be included in compute capabilities and flavours can use extra specs to match against it21:27
markwash_so since we probably can't kick off that reconsideration here21:28
markwash_I guess the action item is just to bring that up explicitly on the ML?21:28
markmcit already was :)21:28
markwash_oh--okay I think I must have missed that21:28
markmcI just mean the thread, in general21:29
Vekthis is going to be a tough couple of weeks to get any responses, though...21:29
markmcI guess my comment on capabilities/extra specs was in gerrit21:29
markwash_it is still "approved" on the bp page21:29
* markwash_ yields the floor to any responses :-)21:30
bcwaldonmarkwash_: since there seems to be some discussion to be had, I will temporarily block the bp21:30
ttxbcwaldon: +121:30
ttxmarkwash_: I'd raise the issue on the ML so that nova-core can weigh in21:30
ttxMy personal view on it is that such feature should be made as lightweight and optional as possible21:31
ttxbut I'm not nova-core :P21:31
bcwaldonttx: your opinion still matters :)21:31
Vekespecially when I agree with you :)21:32
bcwaldonSo the action item is to get a consensus from nova-core then rewrite the blueprint to reflect that decision?21:32
ttxyes, I'll action markwash_ on raising the issue on the ML21:32
markwash_ttx: thx21:33
ttx#action markwash_ to raise the future of Trusted Computing bp on the ML to get nova-core consensus21:33
ttxhopefully talking briefly about it here will raise the profile of the thread21:33
markmcheh, more like21:33
ttxbcwaldon: Anything else ?21:33
markmc"markwash_ to raise The Future Of Trusted Computing bp on the ML to get nova-core consensus"21:33
markmcmuch more interesting thread21:33
ttxmarkmc: long time no see21:33
bcwaldonNo, I'm pretty happy with e3 right now. Just needed to higllight the Jan 26 feature freeze21:34
ttxNova subteam leads: anything you wanted to add ?21:34
markmcttx, yeah, I disappeared for a week21:34
bcwaldonAs the nova-api subteam lead, I did want to highlight the versioning email I sent to the ML21:34
bcwaldonHopefully silence implies agreement21:34
ttxhopefully the Api pundits won't derail it21:35
bcwaldonttx: shh, they might hear you21:35
ttxbcwaldon: they only inhabit dark MLs.21:35
ttxQuestions on Nova ?21:35
ttxdevcamcar: around ?21:36
bcwaldonI can stand in for him, too21:36
ttx#topic Horizon status21:36
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ttx#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/essex-321:36
ttxLooks good to me !21:36
devcamcarlooks good, there are a few bugs that still need to be assigned21:36
ttxdevcamcar: Anything special you wanted to mention ?21:37
devcamcarttx: nothing special, though I will say we've got a few new contributors recently.  this will be an ambitious milestone for us but we've been making a ton of progress so far in essex21:38
devcamcarby the end of essex-3 the vast majority of its visual transformation will be completed21:38
devcamcarthat's it!21:39
ttxQuestions for Horizon ?21:39
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ttx#topic Incubated projects and other Team reports21:40
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ttxdanwent, troytoman: around ?21:40
danwentpretty full already.  we're trying to prioritize work that requires changes to the quantum manager in nova, so we have them complete prior to e-421:41
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danwentwe'll also be working to integrate a new plugin for the ryu openflow controller, so its great to have more people joining the team.21:42
ttxdanwent: so we'll be trying to move the next milestone under release team management21:42
ttxThat means getting tarball generation jobs under control. So far the melange-tarball and quantum-tarball jobs are big FAIL21:42
ttxwe need to get CI's eyes on this21:42
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danwentOk, this may be related to bug fix james blair has already pushed for review21:43
danwentrelated to a problem installing in a virtualenv.  is james the right person to be talking to about this?21:43
ttxdanwent: anything else?21:44
danwentOk, great.  should be an easy change then, I just didn't have any background on why the bug was filed.21:44
danwentnope, that's it.21:44
ttxAny other team lead with a status report ?21:44
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ttx#topic Open discussion21:46
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ttxWe'll skip next week's meeting, so our next meeting will be on January 3rd, 2012.21:46
ttxAnything else, anyone ?21:46
bcwaldonNope. Thanks, ttx!21:47
Vekmerry christmas!21:47
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ttxand an happy new year. OpenStack 2011 was pretty awesome, let's make 2012 even better.21:47
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danwenthey netstack22:00
carlphey there!22:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec 20 22:00:20 2011 UTC.  The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.22:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.22:00
danwentgreetings carlp22:00
danwentis this a california only meeting? :P22:00
carlpApparently :)22:00
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wwkeyboard_I'm here, but I don't have any real information to add.22:01
danwentmaybe everyone's on holiday already.  well, will be a short meeting anyway22:01
danwenthey wwkeyboard22:01
danwent#link: agenda http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings22:01
danwenthey salv!22:01
danwent#info following the lead of the main openstack meeting, no netstack meeting next week22:02
danwentTroy is out, so we'll skip melange overview.22:02
danwent#info: essex-3 is filling up: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-322:02
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danwentbest if those issues start moving into the "started" state.22:03
danwentOne big gap that is missing is dashboard work.  #todo  #danwent ping arvind and mark about dashboard work.22:03
danwentOther than that, there are a number of discussions that we need to have on the email list (see list on agenda).  I will also send a "meta email" out to the netstack list to make sure none of those issues are dropped on the floor.22:04
danwent#todo #danwent send email with list of ML discussions that need to happen.22:04
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danwentAnything in particular people want to bring up?22:05
salvNot from side. If you can speed up the discussion on the ML, that will be great.22:05
danwentOh, salv, what do you say about us getting the plugins.ini change in ASAP?  Its gonna happen this time, for real :)22:06
bhall_oh, that'd be nice22:06
danwentsalv: yeah, will try to kickstart things by weighing in myself.  So far I've been way behind on other work because of the big push at the end of E-2.22:06
salvThat would be great. I merged with trunk about a week ago, maybe it needs another round of conflict resolution.22:06
salvNo problem at all. I guess that's the reason why we are lacking feedback.22:07
danwentK.  I will review that right after the meeting :)22:07
danwentOk, who's up for the shortest netstack meeting ever?22:07
salvPersonally, for the API filter feature I'm going ahead with the implementation. Then if we decide to change something in the spec I will change the code accordingly22:07
salvI was quite curious about the Ryu plugin?22:07
danwentsalv: makes sense.  I don't expect there to be much controversy there22:07
danwentsalv: yeah, I haven't really had a chance to dig through the code yet.  It seems like they have modified the ovs_quantum_agent.py to do some work, and the rest is handled by an OF controller that will be a separate project.22:08
salvok, cool. So there's no need or will to ship it with Quantum22:09
danwentbp is here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/ovs-driver-extension22:09
salvI meant to say this plugin is not getting into the Quantum repo22:09
danwentsalv:  I think their "plugin" will just be a bit of code that let's their OF controller play nicely with Quantum.  That small plugin will be merged (I expect at least), but the majority of the code is in the OF controller, which is a separate project that will not be in the Quantum repo.22:10
danwentat least, that is my current understanding.22:11
danwentanyone here from the ryu team?22:11
danwenti guess this meeting time is pretty tough for japan22:11
salvOk, that makes sense.22:11
bhall_eh, its 7am there22:11
bhall_not like its the middle of the night or anything :)22:12
salvWell, so it's not too bad :)22:12
danwentSalv: this is one of the topics I want to kick off on the ML.22:12
salvRyu or meeting time?22:12
danwentsalv: kick-off discussion on Ryu + Quantum integration22:12
danwentOk, anything else folks want to share?  Please keep an eye on the ML over the holidays.22:13
salvok, sounds the right thing to do (also because it seems it's just you, me and Brad tonight - plus a couple of lurkers maybe)22:13
danwenthopefully people will have some more cycles for these important design discussions.22:13
salvdanwent: one more thing22:14
danwentyeah, hopefully we'll get input from the rest of the team on the ML.22:14
salvare we having a meeting next week?22:14
bhall_salv: nope22:14
salvok, cool22:14
danwentsalv: nope… first item mentioned in the meeting :)22:14
danwentsalv: i think you've more than earned a break :)22:14
danwentOk, last call22:14
salvyou guys more than me :)22:14
danwentok, thanks folks.  happy holidays.  get ready for 2012, the year of the Quantum (™)22:15
bhall_wow.. 15 minutes, not bad22:15
bhall_ah, 1622:15
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salvbye! enjoy your holidays!22:16
danwenthave a good one salv!22:16
edgarmaganafeliz navidad22:16
edgarmaganaand new year!22:16
danwenthey edgar.  when you have a chance, can you send an email to the ML to kick off a discussion about your service insertion ideas and how you see it evolving over time?22:16
danwentI think you missed the beginning of the meeting, but we posted a list of important topics we want to discuss on the ML.  Its in the agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings22:17
danwentk, happy holidays :)22:17
danwenthey edgar?22:18
edgarmaganadan: yes?22:18
danwentone other thing, I forget in my haste to have the fastest netstack meeting ever :)22:18
edgarmaganayes, I saw the agenda22:18
salvI'll do that review later on tonight22:19
danwentjames blair is proposing getting rid of plugin-specific pip requires files in that patch.  This means the cisco plugin would  need to specify some other way of fetching the library in your pip-requires.22:19
danwentGreat… just wanted to make sure someone from the cisco team was aware.22:19
danwentwe won't approve it until someone from the cisco team weighs in.22:19
danwentk, thanks.  talk to you later22:19
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edgarmaganaSumit, the meeting is over!22:22
edgarmaganaLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-22.00.log.html22:22
SumitNaiksatamlets start over :-)22:22
edgarmaganawe are in holidays mod!22:22
salvIt's the Quantum Christmas party!22:23
edgarmaganawhere is the beer?22:23
* mestery is glad he at least made it to the Quantum Christmas Party!22:23
salvedgar: I'm on rum right now :)22:23
edgarmaganai think I should switch shifts to Tekila!22:24
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SumitNaiksatamsalv: I am working on the linux bridge plugin stuff, had planned to send you something today, will do it shortly22:26
debo-oshappy holidays ... but do pass on feedback about the cloudpipe before you get too high :)22:26
salvSumitNaiksatam: thanks! will have a look at it on the morning22:26
salvdebo-os: happy holidays to you too!22:27
cdubSumitNaiksatam: just enough for nova-compat?22:27
cdubdebo-os: i wondered what a cloudpipe was for... ;)22:27
debo-ossalv: thx22:27
SumitNaiksatamcdub: this one is along the lines of the basic plugin22:27
debo-oscdub: interesting qn ... esp the pipe part is an abstract base class22:27
cdubSumitNaiksatam: so enough to create bridge and plug vif(tap) into it (bridge == 1 vconfig'd vlan?)22:29
cdubdebo-os: heh22:29
debo-oscdub: basically today the cloudpipe does that .... without quantum22:30
SumitNaiksatamcdub: yes, will send you more info22:30
cdubcool, thanks guys22:31
debo-osfyi: writuep here http://wiki.openstack.org/QuantumCloudpipe22:32
cdubdebo-os: i saw it go by, but didn't take time to read earlier (just back from holiday and catching up)22:33
SumitNaiksatamok folks, a very Happy "Holidays" and see you in the New Year, best wishes!22:35
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