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| Daviey | zul: hola | 15:00 |
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| zul | Daviey: no meeting today me thinks...nothing to discuss | 15:00 |
| zul | go back to enjoy your "holidays" | 15:00 |
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| Daviey | Holi-what? | 15:01 |
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| bcwaldon | I'm here to listen in | 15:01 |
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| Daviey | bcwaldon: Enjoy the sound of silence.. peace, tranquility | 15:02 |
| zul | still nothing on the agenda but merry christmas and happy holidays | 15:02 |
| zul | #startmeeting | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 20 15:02:14 2011 UTC. The chair is zul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 15:02 |
| zul | #endmeeting | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 20 15:02:17 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-15.02.html | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-15.02.txt | 15:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-15.02.log.html | 15:02 |
| bcwaldon | efficient | 15:02 |
| bcwaldon | I like it | 15:02 |
| * Daviey wonders if it is worth cycling the bot for that | 15:02 | |
| zul | well then people will keep asking if there is a meeting or not and then i can say yes you just missed it | 15:03 |
| zul | no meeting next week either since i will be away | 15:04 |
| Daviey | zul: The minutes suggest that bcwaldon and I were not present. | 15:04 |
| bcwaldon | damn it! | 15:04 |
| Daviey | We were, dammit.. The minutes are not a true reflection of what happend. | 15:04 |
| bcwaldon | we needed to say at least one thing | 15:04 |
| Daviey | I demand satisfaction. | 15:04 |
| zul | were you really present both physically and mentally? | 15:04 |
| bcwaldon | well, I was kinda doing something else | 15:05 |
| Daviey | I've been mentally absent for some time... but it's the physical stuff that matters. | 15:05 |
| bcwaldon | there's nothing physical about irc | 15:05 |
| zul | sure there is, you are at your keyboard | 15:05 |
| bcwaldon | or am i | 15:05 |
| zul | i dunno thats why i asked | 15:06 |
| bcwaldon | or did you | 15:06 |
| zul | possibly | 15:06 |
| bcwaldon | No I am. Sitting in a coffee shop. Using my 'keyboard' | 15:06 |
| zul | heh i so need to do that | 15:07 |
| Daviey | bcwaldon: If that is a euphemism, you are liable to be thrown out of the coffee shop. | 15:07 |
| bcwaldon | It's cool, I'm a regular here | 15:08 |
| bcwaldon | they just look the other way | 15:08 |
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| zul | i will as well | 15:09 |
| bcwaldon | good man | 15:10 |
| zul | back to figuring out how to get volumes working for lxc | 15:10 |
| bcwaldon | good luck! | 15:11 |
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| joesavak | who's here for the keystone meeting at noon? | 17:58 |
| joesavak | CST | 17:58 |
| zns | #startmeeting Keystone Team Meeting | 17:58 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 20 17:58:51 2011 UTC. The chair is zns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:58 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 17:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Keystone Team Meeting)" | 17:58 | |
| zns | I am | 17:58 |
| * joesavak waves | 17:59 | |
| zns | *waves back* | 17:59 |
| zns | Hi Joe. ANyone else here? | 17:59 |
| pvo | o/ | 18:00 |
| pvo | I'm just lurking though | 18:00 |
| joesavak | hi pvo | 18:00 |
| pvo | hey hey | 18:00 |
| zns | Hi pvo. Lurkers welcome. | 18:00 |
| zns | #topic E3 | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "E3 (Meeting topic: Keystone Team Meeting)" | 18:00 | |
| zns | Let's start. | 18:00 |
| joesavak | #link e3: https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-3 | 18:00 |
| zns | For E3, we're starting to target blueprints and bugs. See here for latest list: https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-3 | 18:00 |
| zns | * joesavak steals thunder * | 18:01 |
| joesavak | just call me zeus | 18:02 |
| zns | Much discussions going on about shared CLI Auth across clients. See http://wiki.openstack.org/CLIAuth. CLient consistency will be a focus for E3. | 18:02 |
| zns | Much of the focus for Essex remains on stability and operationalization. | 18:02 |
| zns | We are considering pushing RBAC back to F (not deliver in Essex). However, we'll keep working on : | 18:04 |
| zns | There is a progression of growth for RBAC: | 18:04 |
| zns | * adding to nova/glance/swift hooks (nova only had it in the ec2 api, | 18:04 |
| zns | we need to move the checks to a more core location to check in both | 18:04 |
| zns | the ec2 and openstack api) | 18:04 |
| zns | * loading static rulesets in services (what we did in nova since the | 18:04 |
| zns | first release) | 18:04 |
| zns | * sending static rulesets from keystone to services (push vs. pull or ...) | 18:04 |
| zns | * CRUD for management of dynamic rules | 18:04 |
| zns | and we're considering doing the first two only (so no work in Keystone). | 18:05 |
| zns | For thiose interested in RBAC, we have the following out there for review: | 18:05 |
| zns | 1. There is a blueprint out there: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/rbac-keystone | 18:05 |
| zns | 2. We have a prototype for the middleware that shows what it would send down to Nova (and other services): see email below with links and highlighted JSON sample response. | 18:05 |
| zns | 3. We have the API that Dashboard and other users could use defined here: https://review.openstack.org/#change,1243 | 18:05 |
| zns | The consideration driving not doing it in Essex is the time needed to get alignment and input from all other projects and teams. So far, this has not been high on peoples list (evidenced by the lack of response to our proposals). | 18:06 |
| zns | ANy questions? | 18:07 |
| joesavak | should we push that review through or wait until the impl? | 18:07 |
| zns | I think we should not push it through uintil it actually has a working implementation behind it. It's only a proposal now and should not be in the release code. | 18:08 |
| joesavak | cool. So there is no keystone work required for the nova/glance/swift hooks? I thought this was part of their respective middleware? | 18:08 |
| zns | pvo: can you approve https://review.openstack.org/#change,1825 | 18:09 |
| zns | ? | 18:09 |
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| zns | Not sure how they want to code the static files. If we need to do something in the middleware we can do that easily. I think implementing the CRUD and response in Keystone is what would need a multi-team effort. | 18:10 |
| joesavak | yup -ok | 18:10 |
| zns | #topic General Q & A | 18:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General Q & A (Meeting topic: Keystone Team Meeting)" | 18:10 | |
| pvo | zns: sure. May get merge conflicts. | 18:10 |
| zns | Anything else anyone wants to discuss? | 18:11 |
| zns | pvo: painful. That one's been lingering. I can resolve them if needed. | 18:11 |
| pvo | sure thing. | 18:11 |
| zns | Ending meeting if no more Keystone questions. Thanks all! | 18:11 |
| joesavak | thanks | 18:12 |
| zns | #endmeeting | 18:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 18:12 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 20 18:12:03 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-17.58.html | 18:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-17.58.txt | 18:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-17.58.log.html | 18:12 |
| joesavak | i'll update the wiki for meeting minutes | 18:12 |
| zns | joesavak: thank you! | 18:12 |
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| pvo | zns: 2 conflicts. | 18:14 |
| pvo | one in setup.py and the other in novaclient/shell.py | 18:15 |
| zns | With trunk? I got none... | 18:15 |
| pvo | setup should be easyfix | 18:15 |
| pvo | with novaclient trunk? | 18:15 |
| pvo | I just fetched and merged | 18:15 |
| pvo | and got a conflict | 18:15 |
| zns | I fetched and rebased, but the fetch only had a change in README.rst | 18:15 |
| pvo | looks like there were 2 commits yesetrday | 18:16 |
| zns | Ah - I think I pulled from the wrong repo. | 18:16 |
| pvo | yesterday | 18:16 |
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| zns | pvo: redone - https://review.openstack.org/#change,1825 | 18:32 |
| pvo | zns: standby | 18:33 |
| zns | pvo: updated the merge. | 18:34 |
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| mtaylor | hey all ... CI meeting? | 19:01 |
| jeblair | o/ | 19:01 |
| zns | * lurking * | 19:03 |
| mtaylor | #startmeeting | 19:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 20 19:03:39 2011 UTC. The chair is mtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 19:03 |
| zul | hello | 19:03 |
| * zul goes back to lurking | 19:03 | |
| mtaylor | so, I don't personally have a huge amount today as I'm travelling and stuff... jeblair you wanna loop people in on the gerrit stuff? | 19:04 |
| jeblair | sure | 19:04 |
| mtaylor | #topic Gerrit Workflow tweaks | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gerrit Workflow tweaks" | 19:04 | |
| jeblair | we want to upgrade jenkins and the gerrit trigger plugin, which will give us some new features in jenkins, and allow us to address some issues with the current workflow. | 19:04 |
| jeblair | since we're proposing some changes to the development workflow, i've written a draft email outlining what we want to do: | 19:04 |
| jeblair | http://paste.openstack.org/show/3906/ | 19:04 |
| jeblair | maybe take a minute and review that, and we can answer questions | 19:05 |
| jeblair | though, er, the only people here who haven't read that are "lurking"... :/ | 19:05 |
| * mtaylor waits | 19:06 | |
| jeblair | it's probably okay to just read the 1st paragraph and the "Proposed Workflow changes:" section at the end | 19:06 |
| jeblair | the rest is exposition | 19:06 |
| mtaylor | welp. if nobody has any objections... | 19:08 |
| jeblair | i'll send it out to the mailing list then | 19:09 |
| mtaylor | awesome. | 19:09 |
| mtaylor | that's all I've got. anybody else? | 19:09 |
| mtaylor | #endmeeting | 19:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 19:10 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 20 19:10:44 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-19.03.html | 19:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-19.03.txt | 19:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-19.03.log.html | 19:10 |
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| ttx | ... | 20:02 |
| jk0 | o/ | 20:03 |
| pvo | o/ | 20:03 |
| ttx | I doubt we'll have a meeting today, no news from the chair. | 20:03 |
| ttx | (PPB) | 20:03 |
| pvo | I was going to suggest we move these to monthly. | 20:04 |
| jk0 | +1 | 20:04 |
| jk0 | it's not like we couldn't call an 'emergency' meeting if something urgent came up | 20:04 |
| notmyname | right now they are "Weekly as needed" | 20:04 |
| ttx | pvo: yeah, we could do monthly + more if needed | 20:04 |
| pvo | I don't think we've had an agenda or real meeting for the past month. | 20:05 |
| jk0 | seems like we spend more time figuring out if we are having a meeting.. than actually having the meeting | 20:05 |
| ttx | pvo: maybe make your suggestion to the poc list | 20:06 |
| pvo | ttx: will do | 20:06 |
| ttx | pvo: we used to have a backlog of stuff we couldn't finish with one hour per week | 20:06 |
| ttx | but the middle of the cycle is naturally lighter | 20:07 |
| pvo | sure. not upset, just want to use time wisely. | 20:07 |
| ttx | no chair, no agenda and only 4 members, I think we can safely call it off. | 20:08 |
| ttx | See you next hour. | 20:08 |
| pvo | later all. | 20:09 |
| zns | Sorry gang. Got held up. Looks like we we're not meeting... | 20:19 |
| ewanmellor | Yep, been and gone. | 20:21 |
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| ttx | o/ | 20:59 |
| bcwaldon | hello | 21:00 |
| zns | o/ | 21:00 |
| markwash_ | o) | 21:00 |
| bcwaldon | cyclops! | 21:00 |
| ttx | who do we have ? notmyname, jaypipes, devcamcar ? | 21:00 |
| notmyname | here | 21:00 |
| * Vek waves | 21:00 | |
| jsavak | here 2 | 21:00 |
| ttx | bcwaldon will stand in for vishy, and maybe for jaypipes if he doesn't show up. | 21:01 |
| markwash_ | lol | 21:01 |
| bcwaldon | like a boss | 21:01 |
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| ttx | ok, let's get started, maybe devcamcar will join us | 21:02 |
| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 20 21:02:29 2011 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:02 |
| ttx | Welcome everyone to what is probably our last weekly meeting of 2011... | 21:02 |
| ttx | Today's agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/TeamMeeting | 21:02 |
| ttx | Should be a quick one. | 21:02 |
| ttx | #topic Actions from previous meeting | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meeting" | 21:03 | |
| ttx | * ttx to discuss options for getting a sane list of reviews with CI guys | 21:03 |
| ttx | still TODO, sorry about that | 21:03 |
| ttx | #action ttx to discuss options for getting a sane list of reviews with CI guys | 21:03 |
| ttx | * vishy to properly resurrect public-and-private-dns and target it | 21:03 |
| ttx | That was done | 21:03 |
| ttx | * ttx to give danwent/troytoman more information on release process | 21:04 |
| ttx | That was done -- we also decided that we'll try to get Quantum, and maybe Melange, handled by the release team for E3 | 21:04 |
| ttx | See more about that later in the meeting. | 21:04 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Keystone status" | 21:04 | |
| zns | Three announcements/updates: | 21:04 |
| zns | 1. Updated E3 targets: | 21:04 |
| zns | irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#link Keystone E3: https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-3 | 21:04 |
| zns | 2. Much discussions going on about shared CLI Auth across clients. See http://wiki.openstack.org/CLIAuth. Client consistency will be a focus for E3. | 21:04 |
| zns | 3. Much of the focus for Essex remains on stability and operationalization. | 21:05 |
| zns | Actually, there were 4. | 21:05 |
| zns | 4. We are considering pushing RBAC back to F (not deliver in Essex). | 21:05 |
| notmyname | zns: why #4? | 21:05 |
| ttx | bcwaldon, notmyname: would that (4) affect you negatively ? | 21:05 |
| zns | notmyname: The consideration driving not doing it in Essex is the time needed to get alignment and input from all other projects and teams. So far, this has not been high on peoples list (evidenced by the lack of response to our proposals). | 21:06 |
| zns | For thise interested in RBAC, we have the following out there for review: | 21:06 |
| zns | 1. There is a blueprint out there: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/rbac-keystone | 21:06 |
| zns | 2. We have a prototype for the middleware that shows what it would send down to Nova (and other services): see email below with links and highlighted JSON sample response. | 21:06 |
| zns | 3. We have the API that Dashboard and other users could use defined here: https://review.openstack.org/#change,1243 | 21:06 |
| zns | If anyone wants to drive that, feel free. | 21:06 |
| bcwaldon | We really want RBAC in Nova in Essex | 21:06 |
| bcwaldon | looking at you, anotherjesse | 21:06 |
| zns | Quoting anotherjesse: | 21:06 |
| zns | here is a progression of growth for RBAC: | 21:06 |
| zns | * adding to nova/glance/swift hooks (nova only had it in the ec2 api, | 21:06 |
| zns | we need to move the checks to a more core location to check in both | 21:06 |
| zns | the ec2 and openstack api) | 21:06 |
| zns | * loading static rulesets in services (what we did in nova since the | 21:06 |
| zns | first release) | 21:06 |
| zns | * sending static rulesets from keystone to services (push vs. pull or ...) | 21:06 |
| zns | * CRUD for management of dynamic rules | 21:06 |
| ttx | he is not around :) | 21:06 |
| zns | and we're considering doing the first two only (so no work in Keystone). | 21:06 |
| zns | bcwaldon: I agree qith you BTW, just want to be realistic about what we can get done by Jan 26... | 21:07 |
| zns | with | 21:07 |
| ttx | zns: could you raise a thread on the mailing-list about that ? At the very minimum it will help getting the information out there... and it may get you some help. | 21:07 |
| zns | Sure. Will do. | 21:08 |
| ttx | #action zns the raise a thread on the ML about RBAC potentially being deferred to F | 21:08 |
| zns | Planning on it actually, which is why I have not moved the BP's out of E3 in launchpad. | 21:08 |
| ttx | zns: I see three BPs have unknown status. Does that mean they're just not started ? | 21:08 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-client (dolphm) | 21:08 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-manage2 (dolphm) | 21:09 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-logging (joeheck) | 21:09 |
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| zns | They might be new. We should probably set them to drafting or discussion. | 21:09 |
| ttx | zns: That last one also has no priority. Should I set it to Low ? | 21:09 |
| ttx | zns: no, I was talking about the implementation field | 21:10 |
| zns | ttx: I just set it to medium. It's an important feature... | 21:10 |
| ttx | "Unknown" vs. "Not started" or "Started" | 21:10 |
| ttx | or "Good progress" etc. | 21:10 |
| zns | I set them to Not Started for now. I'll follow up with assignees/owners. | 21:10 |
| * ttx doesn't like the unknown. Thx! | 21:11 | |
| ttx | zns: Anything else ? | 21:11 |
| zns | ttx: no. that's it! | 21:11 |
| ttx | Questions for Keystone ? | 21:11 |
| ttx | zns: i'll mark RBAC "slow progress" to show that it's being questioned. | 21:12 |
| zns | OK. | 21:12 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Swift status" | 21:12 | |
| ttx | notmyname: o/ | 21:12 |
| notmyname | hi | 21:12 |
| notmyname | I don't think I have anything to report | 21:13 |
| Vek | that was swift. | 21:13 |
| ttx | Cool. Happy holidays, then. | 21:13 |
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| notmyname | likewise | 21:13 |
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| ttx | notmyname: i guess you'll have a better idea of when the next Swift will hit at the beginning of January ? | 21:14 |
| ttx | or is there nothing yet justifying it ? | 21:14 |
| notmyname | ya. most of our internal dev effort has been around product stuff, so there hasn't been anything compelling in swift itself yet | 21:14 |
| ttx | ok | 21:15 |
| ttx | Other questions on Swift ? | 21:15 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance status" | 21:15 | |
| ttx | No Jay. | 21:15 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: let's have a quick look at https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-3 | 21:16 |
| bcwaldon | It looks like Jay has targeted all of the Images API v2 blueprints at essex-3 | 21:16 |
| bcwaldon | but very few of them are assigned | 21:16 |
| ttx | yes, and most of them have no assignee... does he plan to do them all ?* | 21:16 |
| bcwaldon | so with that in mind, if anybody is interested in helping out with this hefty task, please talk to jaypipes or me | 21:16 |
| bcwaldon | We need to get it done BY essex-3, so we will absolutely need help | 21:17 |
| ttx | I suspect the status is correct, i.e. most of them are not started ? | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | yes | 21:17 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: what is plan B if everything can't get in ? | 21:17 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: can it land half-done ? | 21:18 |
| bcwaldon | Haven't talked to jaypipes about that, he's been handling most of it on his own | 21:18 |
| ttx | or is it a big chunk ? | 21:18 |
| bcwaldon | I'd suspect we just ship with a partial implementation in a BETA state | 21:18 |
| bcwaldon | I'm not sure if the new architecture is compatibile with the v1 api, so we may just HAVE to get it done | 21:18 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: looks like you shouldn't commit on too much on Nova's side, since you may be needed on Glance's side :) | 21:19 |
| ttx | Any news of Stuart on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/multi-process-server ? | 21:19 |
| bcwaldon | that was just proposed today, so I'm not worried about anything | 21:19 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: oh, code was proposed. cool. | 21:20 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: right, can you update the bp status to reflect that | 21:20 |
| ttx | yep | 21:20 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: Any other remark ? | 21:21 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: nope, I just need to catch up with jay at some point regarding this v2 stuff | 21:21 |
| ttx | definitely. | 21:21 |
| ttx | Questions on Glance ? | 21:22 |
| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nova status" | 21:22 | |
| bcwaldon | vishy asked me to remind everyone that we need to focus on getting all our feature blueprints done in the essex-3 timeframe. After that, we are going to focus on stabilization (bugfixes, testing, etc). We won't be accepting features after January 26th! | 21:22 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-3 | 21:22 |
| bcwaldon | And it looks like everything targeted at essex-3 is assigned | 21:22 |
| ttx | yes, status and plan generally look good. | 21:22 |
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| bcwaldon | the subteam leads have been helping quite a bit with bp triaging | 21:23 |
| russellb | so essex 3 will get tagged on jan 26th? | 21:23 |
| ttx | russellb: yes -- http://wiki.openstack.org/EssexReleaseSchedule | 21:23 |
| russellb | ok, thanks. | 21:23 |
| ttx | markwash_ wanted to talk about Trusted computing | 21:24 |
| ttx | markwash_: floor is yours... | 21:24 |
| markwash_ | So, I have been working with fred yang on the trusted computing blueprint issues | 21:24 |
| * markwash_ starts pasting | 21:24 | |
| markwash_ | context! | 21:24 |
| markwash_ | https://review.openstack.org/1899 | 21:24 |
| markwash_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/trusted-computing-pools | 21:24 |
| markwash_ | http://wiki.openstack.org/TrustedComputingPools | 21:24 |
| markwash_ | basically the trusted computing branch adds a long lived component to nova | 21:25 |
| markwash_ | the main purpose of this component appears to be to add async and caching on top of the HTTP api they are building for host verification | 21:25 |
| markwash_ | I have some problems with the implementation and I have been working with Fred Yang to address these issues, but encountering difficulty | 21:25 |
| markwash_ | and I do not want to act unilaterally if there is no nova-core consensus against the approach in the branch I linked | 21:25 |
| markwash_ | so I want to ask us to reconsider the blueprint as it stands, and require adjustments to it if there is now consensus against it | 21:25 |
| ttx | markwash_: I suspect you won't get enough nova-core quorum in this meeting today to take a decision | 21:26 |
| markwash_ | yeah, I was afraid of that :-) | 21:26 |
| ttx | markwash_: I remeber there was a trusted computing thread on the ML, was that question raised ? | 21:27 |
| markmc | markwash_, I'm fine with it in principle, but it needs to be less invasive to the scheduler | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | ttx, markwash_: yep, I know I personally agree with you, and I suspect other members of nova-core will, too | 21:27 |
| markwash_ | I did not explicitly raise the question of reconsidering the bp | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | markmc: exactly, I think that's the right attitude to have | 21:27 |
| markwash_ | markmc: totally agree | 21:27 |
| markmc | markwash_, I suggested host verification should be included in compute capabilities and flavours can use extra specs to match against it | 21:27 |
| markwash_ | so since we probably can't kick off that reconsideration here | 21:28 |
| markwash_ | I guess the action item is just to bring that up explicitly on the ML? | 21:28 |
| markmc | it already was :) | 21:28 |
| markwash_ | oh--okay I think I must have missed that | 21:28 |
| markmc | I just mean the thread, in general | 21:29 |
| Vek | this is going to be a tough couple of weeks to get any responses, though... | 21:29 |
| markmc | I guess my comment on capabilities/extra specs was in gerrit | 21:29 |
| markwash_ | it is still "approved" on the bp page | 21:29 |
| * markwash_ yields the floor to any responses :-) | 21:30 | |
| bcwaldon | markwash_: since there seems to be some discussion to be had, I will temporarily block the bp | 21:30 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: +1 | 21:30 |
| ttx | markwash_: I'd raise the issue on the ML so that nova-core can weigh in | 21:30 |
| ttx | My personal view on it is that such feature should be made as lightweight and optional as possible | 21:31 |
| ttx | but I'm not nova-core :P | 21:31 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: your opinion still matters :) | 21:31 |
| Vek | especially when I agree with you :) | 21:32 |
| bcwaldon | So the action item is to get a consensus from nova-core then rewrite the blueprint to reflect that decision? | 21:32 |
| ttx | yes, I'll action markwash_ on raising the issue on the ML | 21:32 |
| markwash_ | ttx: thx | 21:33 |
| ttx | #action markwash_ to raise the future of Trusted Computing bp on the ML to get nova-core consensus | 21:33 |
| ttx | hopefully talking briefly about it here will raise the profile of the thread | 21:33 |
| markmc | heh, more like | 21:33 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: Anything else ? | 21:33 |
| markmc | "markwash_ to raise The Future Of Trusted Computing bp on the ML to get nova-core consensus" | 21:33 |
| markmc | much more interesting thread | 21:33 |
| ttx | markmc: long time no see | 21:33 |
| bcwaldon | No, I'm pretty happy with e3 right now. Just needed to higllight the Jan 26 feature freeze | 21:34 |
| ttx | Nova subteam leads: anything you wanted to add ? | 21:34 |
| markmc | ttx, yeah, I disappeared for a week | 21:34 |
| bcwaldon | As the nova-api subteam lead, I did want to highlight the versioning email I sent to the ML | 21:34 |
| bcwaldon | Hopefully silence implies agreement | 21:34 |
| ttx | hopefully the Api pundits won't derail it | 21:35 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: shh, they might hear you | 21:35 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: they only inhabit dark MLs. | 21:35 |
| ttx | Questions on Nova ? | 21:35 |
| ttx | devcamcar: around ? | 21:36 |
| bcwaldon | I can stand in for him, too | 21:36 |
| devcamcar | o/ | 21:36 |
| bcwaldon | damn | 21:36 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Horizon status" | 21:36 | |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/essex-3 | 21:36 |
| ttx | Looks good to me ! | 21:36 |
| devcamcar | looks good, there are a few bugs that still need to be assigned | 21:36 |
| ttx | devcamcar: Anything special you wanted to mention ? | 21:37 |
| devcamcar | ttx: nothing special, though I will say we've got a few new contributors recently. this will be an ambitious milestone for us but we've been making a ton of progress so far in essex | 21:38 |
| devcamcar | by the end of essex-3 the vast majority of its visual transformation will be completed | 21:38 |
| devcamcar | that's it! | 21:39 |
| ttx | Questions for Horizon ? | 21:39 |
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| ttx | #topic Incubated projects and other Team reports | 21:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Incubated projects and other Team reports" | 21:40 | |
| ttx | danwent, troytoman: around ? | 21:40 |
| danwent | hey | 21:40 |
| danwent | https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-3 | 21:40 |
| danwent | pretty full already. we're trying to prioritize work that requires changes to the quantum manager in nova, so we have them complete prior to e-4 | 21:41 |
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| danwent | we'll also be working to integrate a new plugin for the ryu openflow controller, so its great to have more people joining the team. | 21:42 |
| ttx | danwent: so we'll be trying to move the next milestone under release team management | 21:42 |
| ttx | That means getting tarball generation jobs under control. So far the melange-tarball and quantum-tarball jobs are big FAIL | 21:42 |
| ttx | we need to get CI's eyes on this | 21:42 |
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| danwent | Ok, this may be related to bug fix james blair has already pushed for review | 21:43 |
| danwent | related to a problem installing in a virtualenv. is james the right person to be talking to about this? | 21:43 |
| ttx | yes | 21:43 |
| ttx | danwent: anything else? | 21:44 |
| danwent | Ok, great. should be an easy change then, I just didn't have any background on why the bug was filed. | 21:44 |
| danwent | nope, that's it. | 21:44 |
| ttx | Any other team lead with a status report ? | 21:44 |
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| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion" | 21:46 | |
| ttx | We'll skip next week's meeting, so our next meeting will be on January 3rd, 2012. | 21:46 |
| ttx | Anything else, anyone ? | 21:46 |
| bcwaldon | Nope. Thanks, ttx! | 21:47 |
| Vek | merry christmas! | 21:47 |
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| markmc | g'night | 21:47 |
| ttx | and an happy new year. OpenStack 2011 was pretty awesome, let's make 2012 even better. | 21:47 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 20 21:48:04 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-21.02.html | 21:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-21.02.txt | 21:48 |
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| danwent | hey netstack | 22:00 |
| danwent | #startmeeting | 22:00 |
| carlp | hey there! | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 20 22:00:20 2011 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 22:00 |
| danwent | greetings carlp | 22:00 |
| danwent | is this a california only meeting? :P | 22:00 |
| carlp | Apparently :) | 22:00 |
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| wwkeyboard_ | I'm here, but I don't have any real information to add. | 22:01 |
| danwent | maybe everyone's on holiday already. well, will be a short meeting anyway | 22:01 |
| danwent | hey wwkeyboard | 22:01 |
| salv | hi! | 22:01 |
| danwent | #link: agenda http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 22:01 |
| danwent | hey salv! | 22:01 |
| danwent | #info following the lead of the main openstack meeting, no netstack meeting next week | 22:02 |
| danwent | Troy is out, so we'll skip melange overview. | 22:02 |
| danwent | #info: essex-3 is filling up: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-3 | 22:02 |
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| danwent | best if those issues start moving into the "started" state. | 22:03 |
| danwent | One big gap that is missing is dashboard work. #todo #danwent ping arvind and mark about dashboard work. | 22:03 |
| danwent | Other than that, there are a number of discussions that we need to have on the email list (see list on agenda). I will also send a "meta email" out to the netstack list to make sure none of those issues are dropped on the floor. | 22:04 |
| danwent | #todo #danwent send email with list of ML discussions that need to happen. | 22:04 |
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| danwent | Anything in particular people want to bring up? | 22:05 |
| salv | Not from side. If you can speed up the discussion on the ML, that will be great. | 22:05 |
| danwent | Oh, salv, what do you say about us getting the plugins.ini change in ASAP? Its gonna happen this time, for real :) | 22:06 |
| bhall_ | oh, that'd be nice | 22:06 |
| danwent | salv: yeah, will try to kickstart things by weighing in myself. So far I've been way behind on other work because of the big push at the end of E-2. | 22:06 |
| salv | That would be great. I merged with trunk about a week ago, maybe it needs another round of conflict resolution. | 22:06 |
| salv | No problem at all. I guess that's the reason why we are lacking feedback. | 22:07 |
| danwent | K. I will review that right after the meeting :) | 22:07 |
| danwent | Ok, who's up for the shortest netstack meeting ever? | 22:07 |
| salv | Personally, for the API filter feature I'm going ahead with the implementation. Then if we decide to change something in the spec I will change the code accordingly | 22:07 |
| salv | I was quite curious about the Ryu plugin? | 22:07 |
| danwent | salv: makes sense. I don't expect there to be much controversy there | 22:07 |
| danwent | salv: yeah, I haven't really had a chance to dig through the code yet. It seems like they have modified the ovs_quantum_agent.py to do some work, and the rest is handled by an OF controller that will be a separate project. | 22:08 |
| salv | ok, cool. So there's no need or will to ship it with Quantum | 22:09 |
| danwent | bp is here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/ovs-driver-extension | 22:09 |
| danwent | salv? | 22:09 |
| salv | I meant to say this plugin is not getting into the Quantum repo | 22:09 |
| danwent | salv: I think their "plugin" will just be a bit of code that let's their OF controller play nicely with Quantum. That small plugin will be merged (I expect at least), but the majority of the code is in the OF controller, which is a separate project that will not be in the Quantum repo. | 22:10 |
| danwent | at least, that is my current understanding. | 22:11 |
| danwent | anyone here from the ryu team? | 22:11 |
| danwent | i guess this meeting time is pretty tough for japan | 22:11 |
| salv | Ok, that makes sense. | 22:11 |
| bhall_ | eh, its 7am there | 22:11 |
| bhall_ | not like its the middle of the night or anything :) | 22:12 |
| salv | Well, so it's not too bad :) | 22:12 |
| danwent | Salv: this is one of the topics I want to kick off on the ML. | 22:12 |
| danwent | true | 22:12 |
| salv | Ryu or meeting time? | 22:12 |
| danwent | salv: kick-off discussion on Ryu + Quantum integration | 22:12 |
| danwent | Ok, anything else folks want to share? Please keep an eye on the ML over the holidays. | 22:13 |
| salv | ok, sounds the right thing to do (also because it seems it's just you, me and Brad tonight - plus a couple of lurkers maybe) | 22:13 |
| danwent | hopefully people will have some more cycles for these important design discussions. | 22:13 |
| salv | danwent: one more thing | 22:14 |
| danwent | yeah, hopefully we'll get input from the rest of the team on the ML. | 22:14 |
| salv | are we having a meeting next week? | 22:14 |
| bhall_ | salv: nope | 22:14 |
| salv | ok, cool | 22:14 |
| danwent | salv: nope… first item mentioned in the meeting :) | 22:14 |
| danwent | salv: i think you've more than earned a break :) | 22:14 |
| danwent | Ok, last call | 22:14 |
| salv | you guys more than me :) | 22:14 |
| danwent | ok, thanks folks. happy holidays. get ready for 2012, the year of the Quantum (™) | 22:15 |
| bhall_ | wow.. 15 minutes, not bad | 22:15 |
| bhall_ | ah, 16 | 22:15 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 22:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 20 22:15:42 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-22.00.html | 22:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-22.00.txt | 22:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-22.00.log.html | 22:15 |
| salv | bye! enjoy your holidays! | 22:16 |
| danwent | have a good one salv! | 22:16 |
| edgarmagana | feliz navidad | 22:16 |
| edgarmagana | and new year! | 22:16 |
| edgarmagana | :-) | 22:16 |
| danwent | hey edgar. when you have a chance, can you send an email to the ML to kick off a discussion about your service insertion ideas and how you see it evolving over time? | 22:16 |
| edgarmagana | absolutely! | 22:17 |
| danwent | I think you missed the beginning of the meeting, but we posted a list of important topics we want to discuss on the ML. Its in the agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 22:17 |
| danwent | k, happy holidays :) | 22:17 |
| danwent | hey edgar? | 22:18 |
| edgarmagana | dan: yes? | 22:18 |
| danwent | one other thing, I forget in my haste to have the fastest netstack meeting ever :) | 22:18 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/1988 | 22:18 |
| edgarmagana | yes, I saw the agenda | 22:18 |
| salv | I'll do that review later on tonight | 22:19 |
| danwent | james blair is proposing getting rid of plugin-specific pip requires files in that patch. This means the cisco plugin would need to specify some other way of fetching the library in your pip-requires. | 22:19 |
| danwent | Great… just wanted to make sure someone from the cisco team was aware. | 22:19 |
| danwent | we won't approve it until someone from the cisco team weighs in. | 22:19 |
| edgarmagana | sure! | 22:19 |
| danwent | k, thanks. talk to you later | 22:19 |
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| edgarmagana | Sumit, the meeting is over! | 22:22 |
| cdub | fast | 22:22 |
| edgarmagana | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-20-22.00.log.html | 22:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | oh! | 22:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets start over :-) | 22:22 |
| edgarmagana | we are in holidays mod! | 22:22 |
| salv | It's the Quantum Christmas party! | 22:23 |
| edgarmagana | where is the beer? | 22:23 |
| * mestery is glad he at least made it to the Quantum Christmas Party! | 22:23 | |
| salv | edgar: I'm on rum right now :) | 22:23 |
| edgarmagana | i think I should switch shifts to Tekila! | 22:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | salv: I am working on the linux bridge plugin stuff, had planned to send you something today, will do it shortly | 22:26 |
| debo-os | happy holidays ... but do pass on feedback about the cloudpipe before you get too high :) | 22:26 |
| salv | SumitNaiksatam: thanks! will have a look at it on the morning | 22:26 |
| salv | debo-os: happy holidays to you too! | 22:27 |
| cdub | SumitNaiksatam: just enough for nova-compat? | 22:27 |
| cdub | debo-os: i wondered what a cloudpipe was for... ;) | 22:27 |
| debo-os | y | 22:27 |
| debo-os | salv: thx | 22:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | cdub: this one is along the lines of the basic plugin | 22:27 |
| debo-os | cdub: interesting qn ... esp the pipe part is an abstract base class | 22:27 |
| cdub | SumitNaiksatam: so enough to create bridge and plug vif(tap) into it (bridge == 1 vconfig'd vlan?) | 22:29 |
| cdub | debo-os: heh | 22:29 |
| debo-os | cdub: basically today the cloudpipe does that .... without quantum | 22:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | cdub: yes, will send you more info | 22:30 |
| cdub | cool, thanks guys | 22:31 |
| debo-os | fyi: writuep here http://wiki.openstack.org/QuantumCloudpipe | 22:32 |
| cdub | debo-os: i saw it go by, but didn't take time to read earlier (just back from holiday and catching up) | 22:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok folks, a very Happy "Holidays" and see you in the New Year, best wishes! | 22:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ciao | 22:35 |
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