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| heckj | folks here for keystone meeting? | 18:01 |
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| ayoung | \O/ | 18:01 |
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| heckj | #startmeeting | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 29 18:02:12 2012 UTC. The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
| heckj | Ola all | 18:02 |
| heckj | #topic status and progress... | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status and progress..." | 18:02 | |
| heckj | milestone 1 is cut and available | 18:02 |
| heckj | so we're into milestone 2 | 18:02 |
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| heckj | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/folsom-2 | 18:03 |
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| heckj | Lots of blueprints this next milestone | 18:03 |
| ayoung | IPv6.... | 18:03 |
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| ayoung | I was hoping to use Apache HTTPD and make it a non issue. | 18:03 |
| rafaduran | hi all | 18:03 |
| ayoung | Let me check on the status of Eventlet upstream IPv6 support. | 18:04 |
| dolphm_ | o/ | 18:04 |
| heckj | ayoung: sounds good | 18:04 |
| heckj | token_id work is under review now | 18:04 |
| heckj | V3 API is in review, and needs another draft. I have a significant amount of feedback to pull together this week. | 18:05 |
| heckj | Is joesavak around? | 18:05 |
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| heckj | dolphm (guilty by association here) - any idea what joesavak specifically wanted with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/rbac-keystone? (I updated the whiteboard with what I think it needs, but wasn't sure) | 18:07 |
| dolphm_ | He reviewed my proposal, and gave it a thumbs up | 18:08 |
| dolphm_ | Some of his feedback was already included in what I posted tithe draft API | 18:08 |
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| heckj | dolphm_: do we need a separate blueprint for what he wants there? | 18:08 |
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| dolphm_ | Something specific you're referring to? | 18:09 |
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| heckj | dolphm_: just trying to figure out what he wanted with the blueprint and how to track it's "progress". | 18:09 |
| heckj | everett toewes about? | 18:10 |
| dolphm_ | He likes actions/capabilities, doesn't need rules for rax | 18:10 |
| heckj | chmouel? | 18:10 |
| heckj | dolphm_: I guess my question really is should we be tracking a blueprint for that specific work against the v3 api? | 18:10 |
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| dolphm_ | I'd roll it into the RBAC-keystone bp, but it's up to you | 18:11 |
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| heckj | I'll hunt down chmouel and everett related to the last two blueprints in folsom-2 to find out how they're doing and what help might be needed. Everett is a new contributor, so i'm expecting he'll need some | 18:13 |
| heckj | #topic open discussion | 18:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion" | 18:13 | |
| heckj | We've got a pile of reviews outstanding. I'm working through a number today | 18:14 |
| heckj | haven't checked bug and questions this week yet either, so I"ll be trying to hit that today as well | 18:14 |
| heckj | Any open questions? | 18:15 |
| liemmn | o/ Thanks for all the love for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7706/... How do we trigger SmokeStack for patch set#3? | 18:16 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7706/ | 18:16 |
| ayoung | the ... messes up the hyperlink | 18:16 |
| liemmn | What ...? | 18:17 |
| heckj | liemmn: not entirely sure… mtaylor or dprince might have a good idea | 18:17 |
| dolphm | need someone with smokestack admin access to retrigger last i asked | 18:17 |
| liemmn | okie dokie | 18:17 |
| ayoung | who are the core reviewers? Why does this patch require so many reviewers to get in? We have 3 community members plus core.... | 18:18 |
| heckj | ayoung: all reviews take 2 core reviewers | 18:19 |
| dolphm | i'm happy to +2 if there's community consensus there | 18:19 |
| heckj | core members are https://launchpad.net/~keystone-core/+members | 18:19 |
| ayoung | dolphm, are you core? | 18:19 |
| dolphm | ayoung: yes | 18:19 |
| ayoung | yeah, and this code is basically adding in functionality that didn't make the KSL redo | 18:20 |
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| ayoung | As far as other topics: I have a working proof of concept of the PKI signed tokens | 18:21 |
| dolphm | :D | 18:21 |
| ayoung | #link https://github.com/admiyo/keystone/tree/signed-tokens | 18:21 |
| heckj | ayoung: nice! | 18:21 |
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| ayoung | One thing I noticed is that the service.py authenticate method is kindof overflowing its scope. I think this should move mostly into a middleware component | 18:22 |
| ayoung | it does more than authenticate, really, as it also generates the data for the token, then calls the token API | 18:22 |
| dolphm | what would you move to middleware? | 18:23 |
| dolphm | it is a token api call | 18:23 |
| ayoung | this one might include a refactoring where user-id authentication is one middleware component, and the token generation and persistance a different one | 18:23 |
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| ayoung | I have to grok the architecture a little bit better | 18:24 |
| dolphm | if you can simplify, please do! | 18:24 |
| ayoung | dolphm, there are 3 stages as I see it. 1 is authenticate. 2 Is generate token, and that needs to call the SSL binary (in my first impl) 3 is persist to DB/KVS whatever | 18:25 |
| ayoung | I'd like to be able to say: add in these two authentication mechanisms: basic-auth, certiificate, and if you use those, you then get aswsigned a token | 18:25 |
| ayoung | however, if you come in with a token, you can do new things. | 18:26 |
| ayoung | But you need to use a non-token based auth in order to get assigned a token, or tokens never really time out... | 18:26 |
| dolphm | basic-auth == http basic auth? | 18:27 |
| ayoung | dolphm, yes | 18:27 |
| ayoung | dolphm, as well as client certificate auth, which is part of the PkI blueprint. | 18:27 |
| dolphm | makes sense to me | 18:27 |
| ayoung | dolphm, the idea is, I think, that the authentication mechanism sets REMOTE_USER, which is the WSGI way of saying the container has done auth for us. | 18:28 |
| ayoung | So the definition of authenticated is that REMOTE_USER is set, and then we can build a token for users that need it | 18:29 |
| ayoung | It should also allow us to interop with Apache HTTPD a little more cleanly | 18:29 |
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| dolphm | cool | 18:29 |
| ayoung | heckj, I'd like to backpeddal on https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/996139 | 18:31 |
| ayoung | "Change default token backend from KVS to SQL " | 18:32 |
| * heckj looks | 18:32 | |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 996139 in keystone "Change default token backend from KVS to SQL" [Undecided,In progress] | 18:32 |
| ayoung | I think that change only makes sense if we default to HTTPD | 18:32 |
| ayoung | I think that for Eventlet, I'd prefer to keep the Tokens in memory. Especially in light of the PKI Signing | 18:32 |
| dolphm | what's the impact from pki? | 18:32 |
| ayoung | since we won't have to go back to Keystone to authenticate tokens, "losing" them on reboot is no longer a real concern | 18:33 |
| heckj | ayoung: I'm OK with that. You're welcome to mark the bug as invalid to kill it. | 18:33 |
| ayoung | I like memory vs SQL for security reasons | 18:33 |
| ayoung | IE, you can't get access to everyone's token via A SQL query | 18:34 |
| ayoung | heckj, OK. Will do | 18:34 |
| dolphm | ah | 18:34 |
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| dolphm | do pki tokens need to be persisted at all, then? or just logged a bit | 18:34 |
| rafaduran | ayoung: if many tokens are saved in memory, can be an issue? | 18:35 |
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| ayoung | rafaduran, possibly | 18:35 |
| ayoung | the new tokens are going to be larger. Probably about 700 Bytes or so, ve 64 currently | 18:36 |
| ayoung | vs | 18:36 |
| ayoung | rafaduran, so maybe the right answer is to not persist them at all | 18:36 |
| ayoung | I could see an argument that for Signed tokens, just append the new tokens to an audit log | 18:37 |
| rafaduran | ayoung: yes, I think so | 18:37 |
| rafaduran | ayoung: if you are not going back to ask for them not saving them seems the way to go | 18:38 |
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| ayoung | rafaduran, let me think about that for a bit. There is some discussion vis-a-vis revocation I want to deal with first | 18:39 |
| ayoung | revocation might require persistance | 18:39 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: pki tokens still have an identifier, i assume? | 18:40 |
| dolphm | ayoung: persist only that, and remember its state? | 18:40 |
| ayoung | dolphm, well, for the first approximation, it is the whole token | 18:40 |
| dolphm | a hash of the entrie token then? | 18:41 |
| dolphm | sha1 or whatever | 18:41 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I thought there was a separate Blueprint for splitting Token ID from secret portion | 18:41 |
| ayoung | Hashing would be fine...just not certain yet it is required | 18:41 |
| dolphm | ayoung: that was just a thought, i didn't make a bp | 18:41 |
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| ayoung | If a token has a life span of 8 hours, are we really going to need revocation? | 18:42 |
| dolphm | ayoung: 8 hours is an eternity ;) | 18:42 |
| ayoung | I tend to doubt it, as it makes the system much more complex, and Kerberos works with 8 hour service tickets for 20+ years now | 18:43 |
| ayoung | dolphm, the only reason to make them that long is if tokens need to be used in batch jobs or something | 18:43 |
| ayoung | for most uses, 20 minutes would likely be fine | 18:44 |
| dolphm | personally, i think "need" is relative, so i'm just playing devil's advocate | 18:44 |
| ayoung | The devil can hire his own advocates. He has the payroll for it | 18:44 |
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| dolphm | as long as the token lifespan is configurable | 18:44 |
| dolphm | lol | 18:44 |
| ayoung | dolphm, that is my thinking | 18:44 |
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| rafaduran | ayoung: I don't know a lot of encryption so probably is a bad idea, but you could get automatic revocation if the encryption includes a variable part that changes/cycle afet expriation time | 18:47 |
| ayoung | rafaduran, if it is after expiration time, you have to go and get a new certificate. | 18:48 |
| ayoung | lets call them tokens, actually | 18:48 |
| ayoung | so the signed token has a expiry in it | 18:48 |
| ayoung | and the auth_token middleware will check that | 18:49 |
| ayoung | if the token has timed out, the user will not be authenticated | 18:49 |
| ayoung | the usually deal is that they then go back to keystone and get a new token | 18:49 |
| rafaduran | ayoung: I think that would work fine | 18:50 |
| ayoung | We can provide a grace period if the token was used to auth against, say, Nova, and then is needed a while later to talk to, say Quantum. | 18:50 |
| ayoung | and b "talk to" I mean that nova sends the token along as part of a quantum request.... | 18:51 |
| mtaylor | heckj: aroo? | 18:54 |
| heckj | mtaylor: ola | 18:54 |
| heckj | y'all good with ending the meeting? | 18:55 |
| heckj | #endmeeting | 18:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Progress (Meeting topic: keystone-meeting)" | 18:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 29 18:55:59 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-05-29-18.02.html | 18:56 |
| heckj | (yep) | 18:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-05-29-18.02.txt | 18:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-05-29-18.02.log.html | 18:56 |
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| heckj | mtaylor: all yours | 18:57 |
| mtaylor | heckj: thanks! | 18:58 |
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| mtaylor | who wants to talk about CI? | 19:01 |
| mtaylor | #startmeeting | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 29 19:01:28 2012 UTC. The chair is mtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| LinuxJedi | o/ | 19:01 |
| * LinuxJedi appears to be the only one :) | 19:02 | |
| mtaylor | LinuxJedi: we'll give folks a few to straggle in | 19:02 |
| clarkb | I am here | 19:02 |
| * clarkb read mtaylor's "aroo" in Nixon from futurama's voice | 19:02 | |
| LinuxJedi | hehe :) | 19:03 |
| mtaylor | well... | 19:03 |
| mtaylor | LinuxJedi: how about you tell us whatcha been doing? | 19:03 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: sure | 19:03 |
| soren | o/ | 19:04 |
| LinuxJedi | so, lots of little things this week | 19:04 |
| LinuxJedi | Stackforge now has a Gerritbot running on #stackforge-dev (after requests from heat) | 19:04 |
| LinuxJedi | Jenkins Jobs has lots of minor updates and on more Openstack projects (I'm sure mtaylor will speak about that). I have done documentation updates and blogged about it | 19:05 |
| jeblair | o/ | 19:05 |
| LinuxJedi | We had an issue with pep8 where some new rules in a new release broke lots of projects during a release. A slight modification to tox.ini worked around it for now | 19:05 |
| LinuxJedi | All Stackforge jobs now run on the new Jenkins jobs filler too | 19:06 |
| LinuxJedi | Stackforge's disk filled again due to my error, shouldn't happen again. | 19:06 |
| LinuxJedi | And the openstack-ci-puppet tree is now tested with pyflakes | 19:06 |
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| LinuxJedi | and about a billion little things. | 19:07 |
| LinuxJedi | any questions? | 19:07 |
| mtaylor | it's been a week :) | 19:07 |
| clarkb | do we expect openstack to honor pep8 1.1 at some point? I suppose we don't really worry about it too much? | 19:07 |
| LinuxJedi | clarkb: yes | 19:08 |
| LinuxJedi | I don't have more of an answer than that though | 19:08 |
| mtaylor | several of the projects have fixed themselves alread | 19:08 |
| notmyname | LinuxJedi: is the gerrit hook fixed from this weekend? what was up with that? | 19:08 |
| mtaylor | the underlying build bug is that the pep8 version specified in tools/test-requires is not the thing pulling in the pep8 for the test... | 19:08 |
| notmyname | mtaylor: swift is 1.1 compliant now :-) | 19:08 |
| mtaylor | so there was a version mismatch | 19:08 |
| LinuxJedi | notmyname: ah, yes, so... | 19:09 |
| mtaylor | we're working on a better solution for that systemically | 19:09 |
| mtaylor | unfortunately, there is a setuptools/pip disconnect which is really frustrating | 19:09 |
| LinuxJedi | gerrit trigger broke over the weekend. It appears to be due to a stuck thread in Jenkins. A restart fixed it | 19:09 |
| LinuxJedi | but we are working on making such things less likely | 19:09 |
| mtaylor | in the future, jeblair's work should obviate that problem moving forward | 19:09 |
| mtaylor | what LinuxJedi said | 19:09 |
| mtaylor | :) | 19:09 |
| LinuxJedi | just one of the billion things I fixed this week ;) | 19:10 |
| mtaylor | yah | 19:10 |
| mtaylor | as a follow up from me on one of LinuxJedi's things ... all of the openstack projects are on jenkins job filler now | 19:10 |
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| mtaylor | so things like coverage or docs jobs that break at this point are things we should treat as bugs in the project to be fixed there | 19:11 |
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| mtaylor | which means I think we should be able to annoy people on failures in non check-* or gate-* jobs | 19:11 |
| LinuxJedi | blog post at http://www.linuxjedi.co.uk/2012/05/openstacks-jenkins-job-filler.html by the way for people who want to learn more about it | 19:12 |
| mtaylor | cool. thanks LinuxJedi | 19:12 |
| mtaylor | clarkb: how's life in your world? | 19:12 |
| jeblair | #link http://www.linuxjedi.co.uk/2012/05/openstacks-jenkins-job-filler.html | 19:12 |
| annegentle | will this jenkins job filter fix the sphinx doc builds (autodoc python modules problems)? | 19:12 |
| annegentle | P.S. nice job on the docs at http://ci.openstack.org/jenkins_jobs.html | 19:13 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: no, but we will be building all of the docs jobs the same now, so there's one less variable to track down | 19:13 |
| annegentle | +1 | 19:13 |
| clarkb | So late Friday I thought my gerrit patches were all ready and good to go when I realized that I had been working off of master which is old. | 19:13 |
| LinuxJedi | annegentle: thx :) | 19:13 |
| * mtaylor apologizes to clarkb for that | 19:13 | |
| clarkb | I spend the majority of my time last week getting those going | 19:14 |
| clarkb | after some quick cherry picking this morning I think those patches are good to go again | 19:14 |
| clarkb | (they have been reapplied to the openstack/2.4 branch) | 19:14 |
| clarkb | I lucked out with that as I don't think Shrews had an easy time reapplying the commits to the newer branch | 19:15 |
| clarkb | I think that is it for me. No exciting fires were put out | 19:15 |
| mtaylor | cool. thanks! | 19:16 |
| mtaylor | (speaking of, I kinda broke the gerrit gating jobs this weekend, which I have suitably chastised for - hopefully they're better now) | 19:16 |
| LinuxJedi | between me and mtaylor we broke all jobs for a very short time on Sunday, but no jobs were run in this time :) | 19:17 |
| mtaylor | :) | 19:17 |
| LinuxJedi | apart from Stackforge but I don't think anyone noticed | 19:17 |
| mtaylor | jeblair: anything on the make-things-parallel front? | 19:17 |
| jeblair | yep | 19:18 |
| clarkb | looks like jenkins just +1ed my most recent push to gerrit so I think it is working again | 19:18 |
| jeblair | gerrit-git-prep now supports testing dependent changes | 19:18 |
| jeblair | so you can tell it "merge change A, B, then C and test" | 19:19 |
| jeblair | which is a pre-requisite for speculative execution of jenkins gating tests | 19:19 |
| notmyname | (oh, and thanks LinuxJedi for helping me merge things during a holiday weekend) | 19:19 |
| LinuxJedi | notmyname: wasn't a holiday here in the UK ;) | 19:20 |
| notmyname | LinuxJedi: it was still Sunday pm central time. very late for you either way :-) | 19:20 |
| mtaylor | clarkb: w00t! | 19:20 |
| jeblair | that's in now, but not being used; when we switch to the new parallelized gating system, we'll start using that. | 19:20 |
| jeblair | that's it. | 19:20 |
| mtaylor | jeblair: I'm excited by that | 19:21 |
| mtaylor | Shrews: you wanna punch me in the kidney about work in progress? | 19:21 |
| Shrews | mtaylor: emphatically yes | 19:21 |
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| * LinuxJedi thinks Shrews doesn't want the Java mug I bought for him :/ | 19:22 | |
| Shrews | plumbing appears to have changed rather significantly in 2.4, so i need to re-do a lot of that. but at least this time i know where to look for things | 19:22 |
| Shrews | so yay | 19:22 |
| mtaylor | that's good | 19:22 |
| mtaylor | (for folks following at home, same problem as clarkb -- I forgot to tell clarkb and Shrews about how we're tracking gerrit upstream...) | 19:23 |
| LinuxJedi | so ignore the random bullet holes in mtaylor's torso | 19:23 |
| mtaylor | yeah | 19:24 |
| mtaylor | I guess from me, other than breaking things - I've been working on getting jclouds unittest builders running | 19:24 |
| mtaylor | which would be easy - except for the setup time it takes to launch and configure a build slave | 19:24 |
| mtaylor | I was going DEEP trying to get it sorted, but it seems I may have left a zero off of the timeout - so I'm re-testing :) | 19:25 |
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| mtaylor | so hopefully that'll be done this week ... as will proper support for maven jobs from jenkins job filler | 19:26 |
| mtaylor | anybody else got anything? | 19:26 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: do you want me or you to do maven stuff? | 19:26 |
| clarkb | mtaylor: you mentioned that some of our changes to gerrit in 2.3 would not be applied to 2.4 | 19:27 |
| mtaylor | LinuxJedi: I'll poke at it ... the current maven job thing was my doing :) | 19:28 |
| mtaylor | LinuxJedi: unless you get bored :) | 19:28 |
| clarkb | and do we have a plan for upgrading gerrit to 2.4? | 19:28 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: I have a few things I was planning to do first, if you haven't started by Thursday I can take over | 19:28 |
| mtaylor | clarkb: yeah - I was working on upstreaming the require-short-subject patch | 19:29 |
| mtaylor | and it looks like there's a better way to do it coming up | 19:29 |
| mtaylor | so I'm just going to wait on that (also, nobody's actually using it) | 19:30 |
| mtaylor | ok. I think that does it | 19:35 |
| mtaylor | thanks everybody! | 19:35 |
| mtaylor | #endmeeting | 19:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Progress (Meeting topic: keystone-meeting)" | 19:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 29 19:36:01 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-05-29-19.01.html | 19:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-05-29-19.01.txt | 19:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-05-29-19.01.log.html | 19:36 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: can we change the default topic on this channel? | 19:36 |
| mtaylor | LinuxJedi: PLEASE | 19:36 |
| * LinuxJedi adds to todo to get the bot user to do that :) | 19:36 | |
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| heckj | heh | 20:53 |
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| ttx | {o} | 21:00 |
| notmyname | o/ | 21:00 |
| bcwaldon | Cloister? | 21:00 |
| bcwaldon | I mena Cloyster? | 21:00 |
| ttx | heckj, vishy, devcamcar, danwent: around ? | 21:00 |
| danwent | o/ | 21:00 |
| heckj | o/ | 21:01 |
| jgriffith | o/ | 21:01 |
| heckj | ohnoimdead is standing in for devcamcar | 21:01 |
| ttx | vishy is still in vacation apparently, so we'll just pile up actions on him. | 21:01 |
| ohnoimdead | o/ | 21:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 29 21:01:53 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| ttx | Today's usual agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 21:02 |
| ttx | #topic Actions from previous meeting | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meeting" | 21:02 | |
| ttx | pushing back to next week: | 21:02 |
| ttx | #action vishy to adjust 'undefined' folsom bp priorities | 21:02 |
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| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Keystone status" | 21:02 | |
| bcwaldon | his priorities are elsewhere at the moment | 21:02 |
| ttx | heckj: o/ | 21:03 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/folsom-2 | 21:03 |
| ttx | heckj: Is status accurate for those ? i.e. mostly not started ? | 21:03 |
| heckj | ttx: correct. I'm hunting a few folks to see where they are, haven't received any detail back, so leaveing them in not-started for now. Will push out if they're not going to be able to engage shortly. | 21:03 |
| ttx | heckj: how is the feedback on v3 APi going so far ? | 21:04 |
| heckj | ttx: may collapse a BP or two besed on feedback | 21:04 |
| heckj | API feedback has been excellent - another draft will be forthcoming in the next few days with any luck. Still waiting for some feedback because folks on vacation right now | 21:04 |
| ttx | Stil on track to deliver the implementation of the API in F2 ? | 21:05 |
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| heckj | ttx: That's looking iffy, but we're going to try. Given the draft feedback and round-up process, it may slip into F3 | 21:06 |
| ttx | ok | 21:06 |
| ttx | "stop-ids-in-uris" was in F1 and deferred, do you have news on progress on that ? | 21:06 |
| ttx | haven't seen code proposed yet | 21:07 |
| heckj | code is under review, just not linked. Moment and I'll get that link | 21:07 |
| ttx | #info implement-v3-core-api may slip to F3 due to draft feedback and round-up process | 21:07 |
| ttx | In other news, your Folsom plan at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/folsom looks good and realistic | 21:07 |
| ttx | heckj: anything else ? | 21:08 |
| heckj | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7010/ <-- stop-id work | 21:08 |
| heckj | nope. Questions? | 21:08 |
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| ttx | Do you / keystone plan to participate to the Bugtriage day on June 7th ? | 21:08 |
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| heckj | ttx: yep. We've been trying to keep up on that triage a bit more aggressively, so we're a touch ahead, but a run through would be good regardless | 21:09 |
| ttx | cool. | 21:09 |
| ttx | Other questions about Keystone ? | 21:09 |
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| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Swift status" | 21:10 | |
| notmyname | o/ | 21:10 |
| ttx | notmyname: yo | 21:10 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.5.0 | 21:10 |
| notmyname | #link https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/576be4d77efc57b7ee20f0207845349de9960b1b/CHANGELOG | 21:11 |
| ttx | #info Swift 1.5.0 milestone-proposed branch was cut today, waiting for the final go-ahead sometimes Thursday. | 21:11 |
| notmyname | swift 1.5.0 is getting ready for release | 21:11 |
| notmyname | yes | 21:11 |
| ttx | notmyname: I filed bug 1005801 as potentially release-critical | 21:11 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1005801 in swift "[1.5.0] Missing test/sample.conf in generated tarballs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005801 | 21:11 |
| ttx | We should either fix it (in master and in milestone-proposed) or un-1.5.0-target it | 21:11 |
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| ttx | no idea of the exact impact, so if you could have a look | 21:11 |
| notmyname | ok, I'll look in to that when we're done here | 21:11 |
| notmyname | there are a few things that should be mentioned about the 1.5.0 release | 21:12 |
| ttx | if you confirm it, I can push fix tomorrow morning if nobody beats me to it today | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | the first 3 points on the CHANGELOG I linked above will require config changes for deployers | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | I'm working on an email to be sent to the mailing list at the time of official release to talk about all the changes in this release | 21:13 |
| ttx | notmyname: we should probably highlight that directly in the release email announcement. I'll let you write it ? | 21:14 |
| notmyname | ya, I'll definitely highlight it | 21:14 |
| ttx | In other news, could you confirm that 1.5.1 will be the first version that will no longer have the swift python client lib shipped within swift ? | 21:14 |
| notmyname | that's the plan, and I think there is a very good chance that it will happen | 21:15 |
| ttx | horizon: might affect you ^ | 21:15 |
| ttx | notmyname: Anything else ? | 21:15 |
| notmyname | nope | 21:15 |
| ttx | #info 1.5.1 should be the first version that will no longer have the swift python client lib shipped within swift | 21:16 |
| ttx | Questions on Swift ? | 21:16 |
| ttx | #info 1.5.0 will require config changes for deployers | 21:16 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance status" | 21:17 | |
| ttx | bcwaldon: o/ | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | alo | 21:17 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/folsom-2 | 21:17 |
| ttx | Got a few questions for you | 21:17 |
| ttx | api-v2-images-sorting has no assignee ? | 21:18 |
| bcwaldon | correct | 21:18 |
| ttx | so you're looking for someone to do the work ? Or you know who will ? | 21:18 |
| bcwaldon | I'll do it if nobody volunteers | 21:19 |
| ttx | I suppose its status is "not started", then. | 21:19 |
| bcwaldon | there's no rush at this point | 21:19 |
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| ttx | api-v2-images-filtering, swift-tenant-specific-storage: unknown status, I suspect they are "not started" as well ? | 21:19 |
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| bcwaldon | yep, all not started | 21:19 |
| bcwaldon | I'm leaving things undefined until they have asignees | 21:19 |
| bcwaldon | then I'm relying on the asignee to track their progress | 21:19 |
| ttx | ok | 21:20 |
| * ttx unfixes | 21:20 | |
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| bcwaldon | it doesn't really matter either way :) | 21:20 |
| ttx | api-v2-user-properties looks implemented to me ? | 21:20 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/api-v2-user-properties | 21:21 |
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| ttx | or is there more to it ? | 21:21 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: I'll have to sync up with markwash_ on that, there will be another patch coming | 21:21 |
| ttx | ok | 21:21 |
| bcwaldon | we have enough to ship the feature, but more will get done | 21:21 |
| ttx | Looking now at the general Folsom plan at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/folsom | 21:21 |
| ttx | Aren't separate-client and glance-client-parity already implemented in folsom-1 ? | 21:21 |
| bcwaldon | no sir | 21:22 |
| ttx | with the python-glanceclient split ? | 21:22 |
| bcwaldon | separate-client isnt done till we have parity vfor v1 and a full v2 implementation | 21:22 |
| bcwaldon | at that point we can drop the old client from openstack/glance | 21:22 |
| ttx | oh, it's still in. I see. | 21:22 |
| bcwaldon | yeah, we created the new client | 21:22 |
| bcwaldon | need to rally on that now | 21:23 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: Anything else you wanted to mention ? | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | negative | 21:23 |
| ttx | Does Glance participate to the Bugtriage day on June 7th ? | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | there aren't many bugs to triage, but I'll take all contributions | 21:23 |
| ttx | sounds good | 21:24 |
| ttx | Questions on Glance ? | 21:24 |
| markwash_ | bcwaldon: is v2 pagination different than v2 sorting? | 21:24 |
| markwash_ | blueprint wise? | 21:24 |
| bcwaldon | yes | 21:24 |
| bcwaldon | as is filtering | 21:24 |
| bcwaldon | markwash_: | 21:24 |
| markwash_ | gotcha, I guess I was thinking we can't do the last links for pagination sensibly without sorting | 21:25 |
| markwash_ | maybe that is a dependency | 21:25 |
| bcwaldon | ok, there may be an order we need to document then | 21:25 |
| markwash_ | anyway, nikhil and I will probably have energy to devote to the sorting part as well | 21:25 |
| bcwaldon | great | 21:25 |
| bcwaldon | lets hook up offline | 21:25 |
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| markwash_ | sure | 21:25 |
| gabrielhurley | +1 to supporting all that in the API :-) | 21:25 |
| ttx | #topic Quantum status | 21:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Quantum status" | 21:25 | |
| bcwaldon | +1 to your +1, sir | 21:26 |
| ttx | danwent: hey | 21:26 |
| danwent | hey | 21:26 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/folsom-2 | 21:26 |
| ttx | I have a few questions: | 21:26 |
| ttx | Looks like v2-api-melange-integration is in the critical path, what's the status on this ? | 21:26 |
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| ttx | it's blocking a lot of other stuff | 21:26 |
| danwent | yes, its our key blocker right now. talked to jkoelker this morning about it. they are fully focused on it. | 21:26 |
| ttx | do they have an ETA for it ? | 21:27 |
| danwent | we're going to try and get some docs published on the API to unblock some of the other folks | 21:27 |
| danwent | there's several days of work until its fully tested and can be proposed is my guess. | 21:27 |
| danwent | they have it in a side branch that people have access to it though | 21:28 |
| danwent | so early integration is possible. | 21:28 |
| ttx | yes, some parallelization (through doc or looking into the branch) can't hurt | 21:28 |
| ttx | use-common-cfg: could you confirm it's a Folsom goal ? Do you have an assignee for it ? | 21:29 |
| danwent | agreed. I think everyone else who is blocked should at least be able to write-up their designs based on the API doc, so that's the goal. | 21:29 |
| danwent | I thought I updated that one this morning… one sec | 21:29 |
| ttx | oh, you have one now | 21:29 |
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| danwent | haha.. that wasn't even a last minute refresh :P | 21:29 |
| * ttx confirms it for Folsom | 21:29 | |
| ttx | ovs-api-v2-support: Folsom goal ? | 21:30 |
| ttx | fixed now | 21:30 |
| danwent | yes | 21:30 |
| ttx | OK then, looking at the general Folsom plan at: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/folsom | 21:30 |
| ttx | You have nothing targeted to folsom-3... is that because you want all goals complete by F2 ? | 21:30 |
| ttx | and use F3 for anything that gets deferred ? | 21:31 |
| danwent | that is the goal. f-2 is packed though, so the more realistic way to think about it is that F-3 will be overflow | 21:31 |
| danwent | yes | 21:31 |
| ttx | ok, that works | 21:31 |
| danwent | but the good news is that we have people working on all of the important stuff in F-2 | 21:31 |
| danwent | though odds are it won't all land in F-2 | 21:31 |
| ttx | #info Goal is to target all features to F2 and use F3 for overflow | 21:31 |
| ttx | danwent: Anything else ? | 21:32 |
| danwent | other than mounds of code to be written? nope :) | 21:32 |
| ttx | Can you confirm Quantum will participate to the Bugtriage day on June 7th ? | 21:32 |
| danwent | yes | 21:32 |
| ttx | yeepee | 21:32 |
| ttx | Other questions on Quantum ? | 21:32 |
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| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:33 |
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| ttx | So we don't have Vish, still on a beach somewhere sipping Mojitos | 21:33 |
| ttx | So I'll monologue all the questions I have, that will make an interesting read for him when he comes back | 21:34 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/folsom-2 | 21:34 |
| ttx | that said, if you know the answer, feel free to answer :) | 21:34 |
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| ttx | general-host-aggregates (joe gordon): not started ? | 21:35 |
| ttx | trusted-messaging (russellb) and ec2-id-compatibilty (sina): unknown status, should i assume not started ? | 21:36 |
| rustlebee | trusted-messaging is eric w | 21:36 |
| rustlebee | no-db-messaging is me ... not started | 21:36 |
| ttx | oops | 21:36 |
| rustlebee | i think trusted messaging is started, though | 21:36 |
| rustlebee | can't speak much to progress, but started at least | 21:36 |
| ttx | quota-refactor (klmitch) : fully implemented, or more to come ? | 21:36 |
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| ttx | Looking at the general Folsom plan now: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/folsom | 21:37 |
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| ttx | Still a few "High" priorities that are not targeted to any milestone... | 21:37 |
| ttx | so if you are the assignee and know when it should land, just update it: | 21:37 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/config-drive-v2 (unsassigned) | 21:38 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/delete-in-any-state (sina) | 21:38 |
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| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/user-configurable-rbac (sleepsonthefloor) | 21:38 |
| ttx | ewindisch: news on trusted-messaging ? Is work started there ? | 21:38 |
| ttx | jgriffith: around ? | 21:38 |
| jgriffith | Yep | 21:39 |
| ttx | jgriffith: how is Cinder going today ? | 21:39 |
| ttx | A bit more than a month to reach feature parity, still on track ? | 21:39 |
| jgriffith | Going pretty good... Yes, I think we should hit that | 21:39 |
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| jgriffith | Currently the cinderclient is working well against nova | 21:39 |
| ttx | jgriffith: What's left to do ? | 21:39 |
| jgriffith | cinder itslef is 'working' but... | 21:39 |
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| jgriffith | Still some problems getting devstack configured to point to the right comps | 21:40 |
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| jgriffith | Big steps still to be done... Finish all of the seperation out of nova | 21:40 |
| jgriffith | create the client in cinder for nova to talkt o | 21:40 |
| ttx | jgriffith: so IIUC the important blueprints are: | 21:40 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/python-cinder-client | 21:41 |
| jgriffith | The attach piece is going to be tricky but I believe vishy has something in mind there | 21:41 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/volume-decoupling | 21:41 |
| ttx | or is there more ? | 21:41 |
| jgriffith | This generalizes all of it pretty well | 21:41 |
| ttx | ok, will keep an eye on them | 21:41 |
| ttx | jgriffith: anything else you wanted to mention ? | 21:42 |
| jgriffith | Nope, just plugging away. Should have vishy and anotherjesse back later this week :) | 21:42 |
| ttx | Any Cinder question ? | 21:42 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:43 |
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| ohnoimdead | yo! | 21:43 |
| ttx | ohnoimdead: hey! | 21:43 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/folsom-2 | 21:43 |
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| ttx | ohnoimdead: status looks good to me | 21:43 |
| ttx | About switch-to-cinder-client, there is a bit of a race condition here... | 21:43 |
| ttx | ...as the cinder-client itself will be released at folsom-2 | 21:43 |
| ttx | I guess we'll have to do a pre-release somewhere ? | 21:44 |
| ohnoimdead | yeah, that doesn't sound unreasonable | 21:44 |
| ttx | we might get our act together and fix the client versioning/releases by then | 21:44 |
| ohnoimdead | that would be swell. ;) | 21:44 |
| ttx | anything you wanted to mention on folsom-2 progress ? | 21:45 |
| ohnoimdead | fyi we also added https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/readd-quantum-support and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-workflow-integration for re-introducing the quantum ui | 21:45 |
| ohnoimdead | i want to not mention node.js | 21:45 |
| gabrielhurley | ohnoimdead: then why did you mention it? | 21:45 |
| ohnoimdead | gabrielhurley: mention what? | 21:46 |
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| gabrielhurley | ohnoimdead: exactly. | 21:46 |
| ttx | those two blueprints you mentioned... I suspect they will be added to folsom goal and targeted to some milestone in the near future ? | 21:46 |
| ohnoimdead | yes, i was going to let devin target them | 21:47 |
| ttx | ok | 21:47 |
| ttx | Looking at the Folsom general plan at: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/folsom | 21:47 |
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| ttx | ohnoimdead: There are 5 "High" priority blueprints in there that are not targeted yet | 21:47 |
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| ttx | I suppose they will end up targeted to folsom-3 ? | 21:47 |
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| ttx | (unless shit happens ?) | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | the asset-compression bluprint is actually in code review right now... | 21:48 |
| ohnoimdead | yeah. at least one of those is actually done and just not updated :/ | 21:48 |
| ttx | I kinda like it that way, rather than than the other way around. | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | heh | 21:49 |
| ttx | i'll let you fix it :) | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | we'll take a look at 'em and clean 'em up | 21:49 |
| ttx | ohnoimdead: Anything else you wanted to not mention ? | 21:49 |
| ohnoimdead | and bug devin to target them | 21:49 |
| ohnoimdead | NO | 21:49 |
| ohnoimdead | i mean, no thank you | 21:49 |
| ttx | ohnoimdead: Horizon bugs are pretty well triaged, do you plan to participate to the Bugtriage day on June 7th anyway ? | 21:49 |
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| ohnoimdead | might participate for a bit | 21:50 |
| ttx | Cool. Other questions for Horizon ? | 21:50 |
| ttx | #topic Other Team reports | 21:51 |
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| ttx | jaypipes, mtaylor: ? | 21:51 |
| ttx | oubiwann: ? | 21:51 |
| oubiwann | ttx: nothing from me | 21:51 |
| ttx | Any other team lead with a status report ? | 21:51 |
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| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion" | 21:52 | |
| ttx | Does anyone want to organize a realworld event on that June 7 bugtriage day ? | 21:52 |
| med_ | jgriffith, I can set something up in Fort Collins if you want to come up.... | 21:53 |
| med_ | not sure there's any cinder triaging to do though. | 21:54 |
| ttx | heh, probably not yet | 21:54 |
| jgriffith | med_: Sounds good to me | 21:55 |
| ttx | anyway, if you want to, just edit http://wiki.openstack.org/BugDays/20120607BugTriage to mention it | 21:55 |
| jgriffith | med_: Actually there may be... if local folks are familiar with the client project_id settings etc | 21:55 |
| jgriffith | med_: ttx thanks! | 21:55 |
| ttx | Anything else ? Anyone ? | 21:56 |
| * med_ will look into it and contact jgriffith later. | 21:56 | |
| ttx | ok then | 21:56 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 29 21:56:59 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-05-29-21.01.html | 21:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-05-29-21.01.txt | 21:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-05-29-21.01.log.html | 21:57 |
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| ttx | danwent: Vish should be back tomorrow to confirm your meeting time change | 21:57 |
| danwent | ttx: k, thanks! | 21:57 |
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| danwent | hi folks! | 22:00 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando_ | hello! | 22:00 |
| gongys | hello | 22:01 |
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| rkukura | hi | 22:01 |
| mestery | Yo yo yo! | 22:01 |
| garyk | hi | 22:01 |
| danwent | #startmeeting | 22:01 |
| edgarmagana | hi everybody! | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 29 22:01:32 2012 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Hi All! | 22:01 |
| danwent | #link agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 22:01 |
| danwent | So, F-2 starts today: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/folsom-2 | 22:02 |
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| danwent | we have a bit of a bottleneck around items that require API v2.0 for F-2 | 22:02 |
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| danwent | jkoelker and team continue to make progress on the branch https://github.com/jkoelker/quantum/commits/melange | 22:03 |
| danwent | but I think we're still at least a few days out from a potential merge. | 22:03 |
| danwent | jkoelker: around to give a more informed estimate? | 22:04 |
| danwent | _cerberus_ ? | 22:04 |
| danwent | So to prevent other people from blocking, we're going to work on the detailed API docs | 22:04 |
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| danwent | gongys: you're probably waiting on the v2 stuff I assume? | 22:05 |
| danwent | for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/new-cli? | 22:05 |
| gongys | yes | 22:05 |
| gongys | I am waiting. | 22:05 |
| danwent | I think the api stuff is in good enough shape that you can get started. I will work with you to help you understand the API. | 22:05 |
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| gongys | ok | 22:06 |
| danwent | my guess is that having a client-lib and CLI will be important to have first, as others will need the clientlib to build on. | 22:06 |
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| danwent | I'm going to work with jkoelker and get at least the most common API flows documented later today/tomorrow. | 22:06 |
| danwent | the etherpad is just too messy to make sense of anymore :) | 22:06 |
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| danwent | the other two BPs that I think we must get done in F-2 are: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/improved-nova-quantum-integration | 22:07 |
| danwent | (tr3buchet) | 22:07 |
| danwent | and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-dhcp (carlp + team) | 22:07 |
| danwent | if you're on one of those 4 BPs, I'll be hounding your for updates :) | 22:08 |
| danwent | There's lots of other important stuff for F-2, but those have the most dependencies and complexity I believe. | 22:09 |
| danwent | Is anything major missing from the F-2 list of BPs? If so, we should bring it up ASAP, as the release is probably overfull already. | 22:09 |
| danwent | I will comment that it would be great to have a few more core devs by the time F-2 is ending, as the reviewing load will be significant given everything that is targeted. | 22:10 |
| PotHix | danwent: we'll work with carlp on the dhcp, just waiting for melange merge | 22:10 |
| danwent | PotHix: great. have you already sent him email? Since there wasn't a concrete design presented on this at the summit, this blueprint is the one that concerns me most for F-2 | 22:11 |
| PotHix | danwent: yes, but the response was to wait the melange API | 22:11 |
| PotHix | so we can decide what to do | 22:12 |
| jkoelker | danwent: sorry was working on the tests | 22:12 |
| danwent | ok. once we send out basic docs on the v2 api, we can hopefully put together a design. | 22:12 |
| PotHix | cool | 22:12 |
| danwent | PotHix: would like to have a sketch by next monday, so i'll try to get you the API docs tomorrow. | 22:12 |
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| danwent | jkoelker: no worries, probably a better use of your time. | 22:12 |
| danwent | jkoelker: was just looking for a general thought on when you might propose that API code. | 22:13 |
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| jkoelker | hrm, the biggest thing that still needs to be figured out is the ip allocation bits | 22:13 |
| PotHix | danwent: cool! Include carlp on the discussion too | 22:13 |
| jkoelker | but if peeps don't care about working plugin and just want the APIRouter, then i can do that tomorrow ;) | 22:13 |
| danwent | jkoelker: yeah, doing that in a clever way is a bit tricky. | 22:14 |
| danwent | haha… | 22:14 |
| danwent | probably good to have SOMETHING for IP allocation, though it could be something simple that we later improve on. | 22:14 |
| jkoelker | cuz the plugin api is done | 22:14 |
| danwent | cool. | 22:14 |
| danwent | what is the status of tests? perhaps that's some place we could pull some more people in on. | 22:14 |
| danwent | if anyone can volunteer | 22:14 |
| jkoelker | i got everything except for ports working | 22:14 |
| danwent | ok, great. | 22:15 |
| danwent | so it sounds like we're pretty close. I'm guessing a couple days and maybe propose by end of week? | 22:15 |
| jkoelker | filtering and other methods are all untested | 22:15 |
| jkoelker | have yet to run coverage on it to see what needs to be filled in | 22:15 |
| danwent | what do you mean by "other methods" | 22:15 |
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| jkoelker | all the query string stuff | 22:15 |
| jkoelker | like show, filter, and verbose | 22:16 |
| danwent | ah, ok. | 22:16 |
| jkoelker | totally punted on those | 22:16 |
| danwent | I'd be fine merging those in separately, if you think that's best. | 22:16 |
| jkoelker | just got basic crud tested | 22:16 |
| danwent | up to you | 22:16 |
| jkoelker | i'm good for whatever | 22:16 |
| danwent | I'd rather get the merge at least started soon. | 22:17 |
| danwent | that way people can review + get up to speed on the new API at the same time. | 22:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | +1 for phased approach | 22:17 |
| gongys | and we will be able to help test | 22:17 |
| jkoelker | yea i ahve the github issues to break up the merge | 22:18 |
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| jkoelker | the biggest question is do ya'll want the v2 api in without the SamplePlugin working? | 22:18 |
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| jkoelker | if so i can do that like tommorrow | 22:18 |
| jkoelker | otherwise its going to be a while | 22:18 |
| jkoelker | since we're finding bugs with the implementation when we are writing the tests ;) | 22:18 |
| jkoelker | so its a bit of a chicken and the egg | 22:19 |
| salv-orlando | jkoelker: which plugin do unit tests for API v2 use? | 22:19 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: we created a basic DB/sample plugin | 22:19 |
| * cdub is surprised SamplePlugin isn't done as part of v2 for testing | 22:19 | |
| jkoelker | only the V2 sample plugin | 22:19 |
| jkoelker | no other plugin is compatible wiht the V2 plugin api | 22:19 |
| danwent | cdub: I believe it is... | 22:19 |
| jkoelker | cdub | 22:19 |
| jkoelker | cdub it is | 22:19 |
| jkoelker | that is the question | 22:20 |
| jkoelker | do you want to wait on the v2 spec for the sample plugin | 22:20 |
| jkoelker | or do you want it now | 22:20 |
| danwent | jkoelker: I tend to think we should wait for the unit tests to be running to merge | 22:20 |
| jkoelker | well i can fake out a plugin really easy | 22:20 |
| danwent | since the only think you can to with the routers alone is look at the code, and we already have access to the branch. | 22:20 |
| danwent | ah, you mean write a really simple sample plugin? | 22:21 |
| danwent | is that what you mean by "fake out a plugin"? | 22:21 |
| jkoelker | no i mean use mock to return the exact data | 22:21 |
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| danwent | ah, for unit tests only you mean. I suspect this gets back to the "these unit tests aren't unit tests" comment :P | 22:22 |
| jkoelker | ;) | 22:22 |
| jkoelker | yea cuz that's the thing | 22:22 |
| jkoelker | the v2 api is just a wrapper around getattr | 22:22 |
| jkoelker | it really doesn't do much | 22:23 |
| danwent | I think there would be value in that, if for no other reason than phasing the merge. | 22:23 |
| jkoelker | so if we want tests on just it, then that's easy | 22:23 |
| jkoelker | well here's the thing | 22:23 |
| jkoelker | i'd rather do one or the other | 22:23 |
| jkoelker | because no one will use the sample plugin | 22:23 |
| danwent | isn't this what we talked about on the github issue? That the sample plugin would really be the dbbase_plugin, which others could subclass to implement their plugins? | 22:24 |
| jkoelker | yea, but then its totally not my problem ;) | 22:25 |
| danwent | haha | 22:25 |
| jkoelker | that's the plugin implementor's problem | 22:25 |
| jkoelker | ;) | 22:25 |
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| danwent | I think that's the right long-term direction in that it makes our unit tests more like real unit tests. | 22:26 |
| danwent | and separates the testing of the api layer from the testing of the plugin beneath it. | 22:26 |
| jkoelker | sweet, any objections? | 22:26 |
| danwent | I'm fine with it. | 22:27 |
| jkoelker | rock on I'll run with that | 22:27 |
| danwent | what is to become of the DB-base code then? | 22:27 |
| jkoelker | it will still be there | 22:27 |
| danwent | DB-plugin-base? target for a separate merge with separate unit tests? | 22:27 |
| jkoelker | i think whoever uses the ovs-plugin might be able to use it as a base | 22:28 |
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| danwent | jkoelker: yeah. I think its worth keeping as a separate class, so that multiple plugins can use it, but I'm ok with it being a separate merge. We'll have to create some new unit testing infrastructure around it though. | 22:29 |
| danwent | but as I said, i think that's a better long term direction. | 22:29 |
| jkoelker | excellent | 22:29 |
| jkoelker | i'll work on that tomorrow | 22:29 |
| danwent | ok, sounds good. | 22:29 |
| jkoelker | and see if i can get someone to pull out the authn stuff and submit that | 22:30 |
| danwent | ok. | 22:30 |
| jkoelker | as well as the db models | 22:30 |
| danwent | jkoelker: db models would be separate merge from db-plugin? | 22:30 |
| jkoelker | could be | 22:30 |
| danwent | i would see them as coupled, but don't feel too strongly. | 22:31 |
| jkoelker | some of the cleanup in the db/api is badly needed anyway | 22:31 |
| jkoelker | and using declarative_base properly | 22:31 |
| danwent | ok, sounds good. | 22:31 |
| danwent | ok, so back onto the agenda :) | 22:32 |
| danwent | I think we're done with F-2 discussion, so I'll move on to community topics | 22:32 |
| danwent | #topic community topics | 22:32 |
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| danwent | #info we are planning on moving team meetings to monday 2100 UTC starting next week. | 22:32 |
| garyk | yay! | 22:32 |
| danwent | we are planning on using this same channel, but I need to confirm with Vish that the meeting scheduled in that slot no longer actually meets. | 22:33 |
| danwent | vish is on vacation, but will be back soon, so look for a confirmation on the netstack list later this week. | 22:33 |
| danwent | #info quantum is participating in the "bug triage day" june 7th: http://wiki.openstack.org/BugDays/20120607BugTriage and http://wiki.openstack.org/BugTriage | 22:34 |
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| danwent | #topic open discussion | 22:34 |
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| danwent | anything? | 22:34 |
| gongys | about authn(z) on server side, who is on that? | 22:34 |
| danwent | or did jkoelker and I put everyone to sleep :) | 22:35 |
| danwent | gongys: that is kevin mitchell from Rackspace | 22:35 |
| danwent | jkoelker: do you know his handle? | 22:35 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/authorization-support-for-quantum | 22:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | danwent: is there a "work-in-progress" branch for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-l3-fwd-nat? | 22:35 |
| danwent | SumitNaiksatam: not yet… I'm working on it though | 22:36 |
| jkoelker | its usually Vek, but he doesn't look like he's on | 22:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok | 22:36 |
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| danwent | jkoelker: there's a branch with some of the authz stuff right, right? | 22:36 |
| jkoelker | there is | 22:37 |
| jkoelker | it was just updated this morning | 22:37 |
| jkoelker | let me get the link | 22:37 |
| danwent | this one? https://github.com/jkoelker/quantum/commits/melange-authz | 22:37 |
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| jkoelker | https://github.com/jkoelker/quantum/tree/melange-authz | 22:37 |
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| jkoelker | da | 22:37 |
| gongys | It is will be in f-2? | 22:37 |
| gongys | Will it be in f-2? | 22:38 |
| jkoelker | its stacked ontop of the v2 api branch | 22:38 |
| garyk | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/use-common-cfg - added support for linux bridge and ovs. do we want for the quantum service? | 22:38 |
| jkoelker | I have yet to go through it and see what it all does, | 22:38 |
| danwent | gongys: it is targeted for f-2 and actively being worked on, so I suspect it will land in f-2 | 22:38 |
| jkoelker | gongys I think that is the hope | 22:38 |
| danwent | garyk: yes please :P | 22:38 |
| jkoelker | garyk: yes please | 22:39 |
| jkoelker | the quantum/common/config is killing me | 22:39 |
| garyk | join the club | 22:39 |
| jkoelker | its a party! | 22:39 |
| jkoelker | i almost added cfg support for the v2 api | 22:40 |
| jkoelker | but then realized the hozer of only the v2 using it | 22:40 |
| danwent | ok, great. any other open discussion? | 22:40 |
| garyk | great! | 22:40 |
| cdub | garyk: did you see markmc's recent update on that topic? | 22:40 |
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| gongys | nova will call new quantum api v2.0 in f-2? | 22:40 |
| garyk | cdub: yes | 22:40 |
| cdub | garyk: cool | 22:40 |
| danwent | gongys: yes, that is tr3buchet's work. | 22:41 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/improved-nova-quantum-integration | 22:41 |
| garyk | is there anyway of nova knowing which plugin is being used? | 22:42 |
| danwent | he's had most of it done for a while, waiting on the v2.0 api to finalize before completing it, I believe. this is the patch I mentioned in the email today, as it will mean you do not need nova-network when using quantum. | 22:42 |
| gongys | F-2 will be a big change then. | 22:42 |
| danwent | garyk: I would argue that nova shouldn't know. perhaps it would want to know what type of vif-plugging is supported, but not necessarily what plugin. | 22:42 |
| danwent | gongys: yup :) | 22:42 |
| danwent | we're trying to get disruptive things in early in the cycle. | 22:43 |
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| danwent | garyk: what is your use case? | 22:43 |
| garyk | danwent: the ovs keeps attachment id's but gw name. | 22:43 |
| tr3buchet | danwent: that's exactly right. no sense having to update it over and over | 22:43 |
| danwent | garyk: let's chat about this after mtg? | 22:44 |
| gongys | Dan: I think vif-plugging is plugin term on the nova side. | 22:44 |
| danwent | or tomorrow if you're tired | 22:44 |
| garyk | danwent: great | 22:44 |
| danwent | ok, any other issues we need to discuss, or can we let most people go? | 22:44 |
| danwent | ok, thanks folks. keep hacking, see you next week :) | 22:45 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 22:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 29 22:45:07 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-05-29-22.01.html | 22:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-05-29-22.01.txt | 22:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-05-29-22.01.log.html | 22:45 |
| salv-orlando | bye! | 22:45 |
| med_ | tx danwent | 22:45 |
| gongys | bye | 22:45 |
| danwent | bye salv-orlando ! | 22:45 |
| s0mik | take care folks! | 22:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 22:45 |
| markvoelker | 'night all | 22:45 |
| danwent | by folks | 22:45 |
| garyk | danwent: you have a few minutes to go over the essex stable? | 22:45 |
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| danwent | garyk: sure. but i first want to make sure I understand your question about nova + plugins | 22:46 |
| garyk | should we take it to openstack-dev or do it here? | 22:46 |
| edgarmagana | adeu! | 22:47 |
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| danwent | garyk: up to you, as I know its late for you. | 22:47 |
| garyk | danwent: i can give it a bash. | 22:48 |
| PotHix | bye! | 22:48 |
| danwent | k | 22:49 |
| garyk | danwent: ovs stores the attachement id. it does not store the gw id. this too can be stored. i sent a mail last week. i'll try and did it up | 22:49 |
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| danwent | ah, yeah. let me check the code quickly to get back up to speed. | 22:50 |
| danwent | garyk: yes. right now nova does not general a true attachment-id for gateway interfaces, it just uses the device name. | 22:52 |
| danwent | this is the code in nova-network, right? | 22:52 |
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| garyk | danwent: http://fpaste.org/NNYE/ | 22:52 |
| garyk | danwent: correct | 22:53 |
| danwent | yes, I remember the issue now | 22:53 |
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| danwent | yes, using the full UUID is a more proper solution. | 22:54 |
| garyk | ok. | 22:55 |
| garyk | can we context switch to the essex stable? | 22:55 |
| danwent | that said, this code will be being moved to quantum in F-2 | 22:55 |
| danwent | or early F-3 | 22:55 |
| garyk | ok, great | 22:55 |
| danwent | so probably best to make the change then. | 22:55 |
| danwent | (this vif-plugging code will probably end up in quantum/agent/linux as a library | 22:55 |
| danwent | ok, sure stable/essex | 22:56 |
| danwent | your list looked good. one of the changes only applied to folsom though. | 22:56 |
| danwent | one sec | 22:56 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1000887 | 22:56 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1000887 in quantum "Nova/Quantum Integration broken due to typo in serializer" [Critical,Fix released] | 22:56 |
| danwent | i think this fixes something that was only broken in Folsom | 22:56 |
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| garyk | ok. | 22:57 |
| danwent | but there's actually another QuantumManager fix that we do need to backport | 22:57 |
| garyk | i am a bit confused about the git commands i need to use. if you have an example on how you check out the version then i can start to get it up and running | 22:57 |
| danwent | https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/627522525e0268a1bc54695ce3dedf16d6fb413d | 22:58 |
| garyk | noted | 22:58 |
| danwent | k, will send you an email with the right git command | 22:58 |
| danwent | s | 22:58 |
| garyk | great thanks! i am going to crash now | 22:58 |
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| danwent | hehe, ok. will send you email soon. night | 23:00 |
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| garyk | thanks - i'll be in the office in a few hours :) | 23:00 |
| garyk | bye | 23:00 |
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