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rushiagris the meeting going to happen today at 1600 UTC? The webpage on the cinder project regarding meetings seemed out dated.09:17
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Hiteshprimeministerp: H14:56
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Hiteshprimeministerp: Hi Peter14:57
primeministerpHitesh: Howdy, we'll start in a couple minutes14:57
Hiteshprimeministerp: cool Good..14:57
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primeministerp#startmeeting Hyper-V15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep  4 15:00:15 2012 UTC.  The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v'15:00
primeministerpHi all15:00
primeministerpthis going to be a quick meeting, as I'm packing up to head home and back to the office15:00
primeministerpfirst of I'd like to introduce luis_fdez from cern15:00
primeministerpluis_fdez: sorry for putting you on the spot15:01
primeministerp;)15:01
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luis_fdezjeje15:02
Hiteshluis_fdez: Hi Luis15:02
primeministerpluis_fdez: let us know if you need anything15:02
luis_fdezHi everyone :)15:02
primeministerpluis_fdez: things are a bit scattered right now15:02
pnavarroHola luis_fdez ! Welcome to Hyper-V team15:02
primeministerpluis_fdez: working to get everything in line in terms of docs etc15:02
luis_fdezby the moment... i'll pay attention to all you say...15:02
primeministerphehe15:02
Hiteshluis_fdez: haahh15:02
primeministerpluis_fdez: alexpilotti and pnavarro are great resources15:03
primeministerpluis_fdez: so feel free to aproach any of us w/ questions15:03
pnavarroluis_fdez: and you know, we can even speak spanih and italian15:03
luis_fdezok, good to know it :)15:03
alexpilottihi luis_fdez!15:03
primeministerpunfortunately i can not15:03
primeministerpspeak spanish or italian15:04
primeministerp;)15:04
primeministerpok15:04
luis_fdezI'm spanish indeed...15:04
luis_fdezjeje15:04
alexpilottiprimeministerp: ok, for this time only we'll stick with English ;-)15:04
pnavarroluis_fdez: me too15:04
primeministerpluis_fdez: things today will be slow, but please feel free to join us on #openstack-hyper-v15:04
primeministerpthe rest of the time15:04
primeministerper not slow but short15:04
luis_fdezok15:04
primeministerpok15:05
alexpilottiluis_fdez: we managed to get HyperV back in time for the Folsom release15:05
primeministerp#topic cinder15:05
primeministerppedro any updates?15:05
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alexpilottiluis_fdez: we have all the features required for a compute node in place15:05
primeministerpluis_fdez: right now all of the features on the wiki are fully functional15:06
pnavarroprimeministerp: well, about cinder plugin, I'm finishing the tests15:06
primeministerppnavarro: nice!15:06
pnavarroI have some issues with some WMI calls, that alexpilotti gave some ideas15:06
primeministerppnavarro: let me know as well15:06
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primeministerppnavarro: and I can ping some folks inside15:06
primeministerppnavarro: if you hit roadblocks15:07
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alexpilottiluis_fdez: let us know if you need help to setup a working environment15:07
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pnavarrook primeministerp, but so far I'm not really blocked15:07
primeministerppnavarro: ok15:07
pnavarroit's just a matter of style of the code15:07
primeministerpgotcha15:07
luis_fdezok alexpilotti ... the next days I plan to setup one...15:07
primeministerpluis_fdez: i'll be online tomorrow to help15:08
primeministerpluis_fdez: i can also provide some other assistance15:08
primeministerpluis_fdez: in terms of puppet bits15:08
primeministerpluis_fdez: that i've started15:08
primeministerpfor the python deps15:08
pnavarroso, nothing more to add, after tests, I'll test the whole integration15:08
primeministerppnavarro: perfect15:08
alexpilottiluis_fdez: I sent you a message w my email for help15:09
primeministerppnavarro: all set for the conference yet?15:09
luis_fdezok, thank you!! that's a warm welcome...15:09
primeministerpluis_fdez: I believe you have my email also, please feel free to reach out anytime15:09
primeministerpok moving on15:10
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pnavarroprimeministerp: yep, passport and flight is OK15:10
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primeministerp#topic general discussion15:10
alexpilottipnavarro: Esta?15:10
primeministerpok in general, we'll be trying to finalize documentation upon my return to the office tomorrow15:10
pnavarroalexpilotti: I'll have my new passport, next week, so I'll be doing then15:10
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pnavarrobecause passport number changes...15:11
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primeministerpalexpilotti: anything to add!15:11
primeministerpin general15:11
alexpilottiwell, we are going on quite fast with new features15:12
primeministerpideally our next efforts are will include a new installer15:12
primeministerpfor the current code15:12
alexpilottiwe'll prepare also some material for the S.Diego summit15:12
primeministerpyes that as well15:13
primeministerpdemo's15:13
primeministerpand slides galore15:13
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alexpilottiprimeministerp: can you ping Steff to see if everything is ok with the sessions?15:13
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primeministerpalexpilotti: shoot me an email to remide me15:13
alexpilottioki15:14
primeministerpi'll start sending emails tonight15:14
primeministerpwhen I'm home15:14
primeministerp;)15:14
primeministerpok i'm ending the meeting short, i encourage further discussion on the openstack-hyper-v channel15:14
alexpilottiok, nothing else to add on my side15:14
primeministerpI'll be back online later this eventing15:14
primeministerper evening15:14
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Hiteshprimeministerp: ok..15:15
primeministerpok15:15
Hiteshbye all15:15
primeministerp#endmeeting15:15
openstackMeeting ended Tue Sep  4 15:15:21 2012 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:15
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Hiteshprimeministerp: will poing you if I need15:15
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ayoungKeystone!17:58
heckjyeah!!!17:58
dolphmyay17:58
heckj#startmeeting Keystone17:58
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep  4 17:58:18 2012 UTC.  The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:58
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:58
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'17:58
heckjola all17:58
heckjHope y'all had a good holiday weekend (if you're in the US)17:58
ayoungO/17:59
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ayounggyee, you want to come talk Domains?17:59
gyee\o17:59
gyeeayoung, I am going to stash the stuff in the v3 feature branch18:00
heckjno other burning topics unless there's new hot and heavy bugs18:00
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gyeeanyone familiar with swift filter?18:00
ayoungheckj, I'm going to try and sqeak the DB revert in18:01
heckjDB revert?18:01
heckj(haven't looked at reviews since last thursday)18:01
ayoungheckj, for tokens18:01
ayoungnah just sent it to the mailing list18:01
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ayoungdropping the body of the PKI tokens from the backing store18:01
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dolphmayoung: i was hoping we could just delete the most recent migration file, but it looks like token revocation landed a migration after #218:02
ayoungdolphm, yeah...we''ll just do it as an addtional migration, and then compact in the grizzly timeframe18:02
* heckj nods18:03
dolphmcompact?18:03
ayoungdolphm, merge all of the migrations into one18:03
ayoungthat should read "piost grizzly timeframe" probably18:03
dolphmthat's not really what i was thinking (not sure why you'd want to do that?)18:03
ayoungpost18:03
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dolphmi was just thinking if we created and reverted a migration within a milestone, we might as well not have it18:04
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dolphmi don't know if this counts18:04
ayoungdolphm, well, it is more developer friendly to keep moving forward.  I'm OK with hacking it out.  We can make the migration into a no-op if you would prefer18:04
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ayoungheckj, any opinion18:04
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heckjI'm OK with it either way - my gut would be to leave it in, we'll acrue more migrations over time18:05
dolphmmigrations #2 and #3 both occurred within m3, correct?18:05
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ayoungdolphm, you mean that there would be no one with a v2 DB?  Yes, that is correct18:08
ayoungAnyway...we can work out the detail on that in the review...I'll move forward with it.18:09
heckjsounds good18:09
ayounggyee, you wanted to talk swift filter?18:09
heckj#topic open discussion18:09
ayoungis that due to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12356/18:09
gyeeyeah, looking at the code, doesn't appear <tenantId>:<userId> is supported18:09
gyeecrossed-tenant18:09
dolphmayoung: i'm not too worried, i just know people's token tables can be huge... so rewriting the migration history doesn't seem like a horrible idea to me18:10
dolphm(if we have a safe chance to do so)18:11
ayounggyee, never looked at swift18:12
gyeethat's fine, the code is the truth anyway :)18:12
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ayounggyee, where are we WRT Domains?  And,  does it play well with the Kent proposal for Federation?18:13
gyeeI haven't look at the Federation proposal18:14
ayounggyee, If I understand it correctly, it should mean something along the lines of  "allow these domains"  and Keystone doesn't then track individual users18:15
ayoungComplete delegation to, say, oauth or some other provider18:15
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ayoungI'd see a need for both a traditional Keystone and Federation working together, and I suspect the right dividing line would be along Domain boundaries18:16
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ayounggyee, you were waiting on something from the V3  impl.  What was that?18:17
gyeethat pretty much means all resources must be contained in a domain :)18:17
gyeeI am all for it!18:18
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ayounggyee, I am sure you are...the question is whether it works with the Federation proposal...I was hoping you could vett...18:18
gyeeayoung, the RBAC code, I think Dolph took care of it18:18
ayoungdolphm, is that in, or does it need review?18:19
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/12184/18:19
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heckjI think it still needs approvals to get merged into the feature branch18:21
dolphmayoung: gyee: it's proposed, but the review itself is dependent on a sequence18:21
ayoungdolphm, should we do a deliberate walkthrough of the sequence at some point?18:21
ayoungI have to admit I have only vague notions as far as the details of the V2 api18:21
heckjdolphm: I haven't reviewed the dependent ones - will work on that today18:21
gyeesame here18:22
dolphmhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/12058/ <-- it all starts here18:22
dolphmand i agree 100% with jay's points -- plan on addressing them today18:22
dolphmalthough, we have no i18n, so can't do much about that18:22
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gyeei18n would be awesome to have in OpenStack common18:24
ayounggyee, be careful what you wish for.18:25
gyeeayoung, there was also a Federation proposal by someone in UK, using SAML18:25
gyeewe are not talking about that one right?18:25
ayounggyee, yeah, that is the kent proposal18:25
gyeeoh ok18:25
ayoungUniversity of Kent,  ac.uk18:25
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dolphmheckj: P.S. thanks for continuing to PTL18:26
gyeethat one lacks details18:26
ayoungThey have put a lot of effort in to it18:26
ayoungdolphm, +1 heckj as PTL18:26
dolphmheckj: (your lack of a candidacy email up until now was starting to stress me out)18:26
ayounggyee, agreed.  They are sponsoring a conference this week, but they will have some one attend this meeting in the future.  We'll pick their brains then18:27
gyeedolphm, you want to do some eastwooding? :)18:27
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dolphmgyee: after some quick googling, i'm now caught up on what "eastwooding" is18:29
dolphmi'll have to watch the video later :)18:29
ayoungPrefer the Betty White version18:29
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ayoungAnything else burning, or are we done?18:31
dolphmoh, i wanted to ask here before i tackled it...18:32
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dolphmthere's a transient unit test failure that's checking for token expiration preservation or something18:32
heckjdolphm: ayoung thanks re: PTL - was VERY unplugged this weekend18:32
ayoungyeah...off by 1 second18:32
dolphmi didn't see a bug / anyone already have a fix?18:32
heckjrafting down the rogue river in southern oregon - freakin' fantastic18:32
dolphmheckj: /jealous18:33
ayoungdolphm, I tried at some point...I think the test needs to chop off the seconds or round up or something18:33
ayoungbut, no bug18:33
dolphmayoung: i was tempted to cheat too... but that just decreases the likelihood of a failure18:34
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ayoungnah, the test is broken18:34
ayoungthe ticket gets issued one second, tested the next18:34
heckjmight need to override time and have it return known values for that setup18:34
ayounga multi second granularity is safe18:34
dolphmif it's the same time or +1 second? type thing?18:35
ayoungeither that, or grab the time prior to testing to make sure it is the same.   But that will require changing more places.18:36
ayoungdolphm, open a ticket for it.18:36
dolphmayoung: will do18:37
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ayoungAre we good on bug triage?18:38
dolphmhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/104596218:40
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1045962 in keystone "Transient test failure: test_token_expiry_maintained" [Low,Confirmed]18:40
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ayoungdolphm, I took it.18:41
dolphmjust one new bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/104403218:41
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1044032 in keystone "Trying to auth with a bad request reply with a KeyError" [Undecided,New]18:41
dolphmayoung: awesome, thanks18:41
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ayoungdolphm, that last one sounds familiar, too.18:42
ayoungI wonder if that was in F3?18:42
ayoungRAX-KSKEY18:42
ayoungOK...I can take that one, too18:43
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heckjI think we're pretty wrapped for today - anything else, or should I formally close this out?18:48
heckj#endmeeting18:50
openstackMeeting ended Tue Sep  4 18:50:22 2012 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)18:50
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dolphm#success18:50
heckjupdatin' the wiki now..18:50
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LinuxJedijeblair: you hosting us today?19:01
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jeblair#startmeeting ci19:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep  4 19:02:45 2012 UTC.  The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ci'19:02
jeblairanyone want to talk about ci stuff?19:03
clarkbsure19:03
fungiabsolutely19:03
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jeblair#topic trivial rebase hook19:03
jeblairfungi: why don't you tell folks about what you've been up to?19:04
fungii've got a commit in for review to get the hook pushed19:04
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fungiwe need a dummy account to which we attribute the comments on changed commit ids first19:04
fungiso it's set to wip until i get that id # and update the commit19:05
jeblair#action jeblair create gerrit account for trivial rebase hook19:05
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funginotes on precisely what we need are i the current commit message19:05
fungihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/12373/19:06
jeblair#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12373/19:06
fungiah, yes, i forget the tags19:06
clarkbwhat is the expected behavior of this hook?19:07
fungianyway, it's fully tested on my gerrit dev vm, and i believe all your requested adjustments/fixes are integrated19:07
Shrewsso, i've been dealing with other stuff this week, so i guess i've missed out on the purpose of this change?19:07
jeblairfungi: awesome!  i'm very exciting about this.19:07
fungiexpected behaviors:19:07
jeblairfungi: also you should add "fixes bug 881184" to the commit message -- LP will be automatically updated that way19:08
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 881184 in openstack-ci "consider trivial rebase hook for gerrit" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88118419:08
fungi1. when a second or subsequent patchset is committed for review, if the git patch-id is calculated to be the same as the previous commit, code review flags are re-added for each of the prior reviewers19:08
fungi2. except if the commit message has been changed, in which case code reviews are not re-added, but a comment is made by the "Trivial Rebase" (trivial-rebase) role account noting that observation19:09
fungithat's basically it19:10
jeblairso this way reviewers don't have to figure out that a new patchset is just a rebase and re-review.19:10
fungicorrect. about a dozen patches were made to the script, for which i have a local git branch against upstream we can try to get merged later19:10
fungipatches are already atomic and thoroughly documented, so they should be okay with most if not all19:11
jeblairShrews, clarkb: all caught up?19:11
Shrewsjeblair: yup. thx19:11
clarkbI think that covers it19:11
Shrewsgood change19:11
jeblaircool, anything else about trivial rebase?19:12
funginot from me19:12
jeblair#topic jenkins "improvements"19:13
jeblairwe're continuing to make changes to our jenkins configuration to abate performance problems and generally make things suck less19:14
jeblairclarkb: you want to talk about the scp plugin and related things?19:14
clarkbsure. I have modified the upstream SCP plugin to copy console logs of builds and to add an option to copy files when a build fails19:15
clarkbthis allows us to copy the build artifacts of all builds to another server, which we are now doing (things get copied to logs.openstack.org)19:15
clarkbthese files are then served by apache and access to them is much quicker than through jenkins19:16
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clarkbthere have been a couple bugs in my changes to the SCP plugin. It wasn't always copying the entirety of the console log because it needed to wait longer (the fix was to spawn a new thread that can wait for everything else to finish)19:17
clarkband it doesn't currently handle null workspaces which happen when slaves die in unexpected ways. The fix for this is currently on jenkins-dev and seems to be working. Will put it on jenkins.o.o when opportunity arises.19:18
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jeblairclarkb: cool, so with that in place, i think we can start reducing the retention time for jenkins builds to 1 day19:18
jeblairclarkb: and also stop jenkins-archiving some artifacts (like devstack logs) since they are getting copied to the new site19:18
clarkbsemi related to this is the nose html output plugin. It captures unit test results in an html file that we can serve via apache on logs.o.o.19:19
clarkbIt is able to capture skipped tests now too which is cool19:19
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Shrewsclarkb: think they'll accept your scp plugin changes upstream?19:20
clarkbShrews: I have submitted a pull request for that, but haven't heard back on it. I do need to update the pull request to include these bug fixes19:20
jeblair#action mtaylor get in touch with appropriate jenkins buddies about clarkb's scp plugin pull request19:21
jeblairclarkb: link?19:21
clarkbShrews: I haven't created a project on review.o.o because I would really like to upstream the changes19:21
clarkb#link https://github.com/jenkinsci/scp-plugin/pull/419:21
jeblairyes, i think that's the way to go; only if that fails should we start maintaining a fork.  :(19:22
Shrews++19:22
jeblairso, a while ago, we talked a while ago about explicitly noting when a unit test tries to "sudo" during a jenkins run (which will fail), and failing the test.19:23
jeblairwe had a lot of sudo related cronspam this weekend, which moved that up my priority list a bit...19:23
jeblairso i'm about to merge this change:19:23
jeblair#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12366/19:23
jeblairwhich will start failing tests if sudo has been run during the test19:24
jeblairthat won't actually stop us from getting spammed, but it will at least automate the process of letting people know their tests are trying to sudo19:24
LinuxJedijeblair: semi-related to the Heat are going to run their 'sudo' tests on a separate Jenkins that will +1/-1 verify vote19:25
fungiis there any option to also alias sudo to /usr/bin/false for the user running the tests?19:25
* LinuxJedi is not sure if they are the cause or not but wouldn't be surprised19:26
jeblairfungi: wouldn't be surprised if the tests run sudo with the full path19:26
fungiokay, good point19:26
jeblairfungi: and from a fork/exec from within python, etc...19:27
fungiyeah, so no way to solve that short of chroot19:27
jeblairLinuxJedi: perhaps, but this has certainly come up with the core projects, so it's a general solution19:27
jeblair#topic devstack gate19:28
jeblairWe're now running two devstack-gate jobs, one with cinder, and one with nova-volume19:28
jeblairthey are both going to be supported in folsom, so we're testing both19:29
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jeblairin grizzly, n-vol should be deprecated, so i think we can just test cinder then19:30
jeblairanything else on this subject?19:31
jeblair#topic zuul19:31
clarkbjeblair: it appaers that the refactoring has corrected the bug(s) we were seeing19:32
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jeblairI refactored some of the code in zuul so that some of the more complex things we're doing with early dequeuing of changes, etc, should be easier to comprehend, and hopefully doesn't have some of the edge cases that we were running into last week19:32
jeblairclarkb: whew  :)19:32
jeblairmain user-visible change is that the ordering of the status queue is the reverse of what it used to be...19:33
jeblair#link https://jenkins.openstack.org/zuul/status19:33
clarkbthat and changes shouldn't get stuck because zuul doesn't know what to do with them19:33
jeblairwith the head of the queue at the top/left, with following changes trailing down and right19:33
jeblairalso, as soon as a change at the head of the queue fails, it is immediately dequeued, but stays visible on the status screen, disconnected from the rest of the queue, while the remainder of its jobs finish19:34
jeblairthat's called a "severed head".19:35
jeblair#topic job builder19:35
jeblairbased on yun mao's work with pylint for nova19:36
jeblairi added a job that generates the diff of xml output from the jenkins job builder19:36
jeblairsee it in action here:19:37
jeblair#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12288/19:37
jeblairso we can examine how any commit to jenkins job builder will affect the xml for the openstack jobs19:37
jeblairi'll also set up a similar test to the openstack yaml for the job builder, so we can see how any change to the yaml will change the xml19:38
jeblairit's a non-voting job, with a custom message -- so it doesn't say FAILURE/SUCCESS, but rather "xml has (or has not) changed"19:38
LinuxJediawesome :)19:38
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jeblair#topic doc jobs19:39
jeblairclarkb: you've been working with annegentle on docs jobs -- anything you folks want to fill us in on?19:39
clarkbwe are trying to start using jenkins jobs builder for those jobs19:40
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clarkbthe existing jobs use environment variables not injected by zuul so the builder code in jenkins job builder will need to be upadted to do that19:40
iopenstackcan I ask whether anyone is using sonar to manage openstack code quality?19:41
clarkbI can work on that, but may have questions for jeblair and LinuxJedi. We'll see how far I get19:41
clarkbbut other than that the jobs are very similar to the other jobs created by jenkins job builder19:41
jeblairiopenstack: in a minute19:41
jeblairclarkb: if you want to take extending job builder to do properties, great19:42
clarkbthe jobs run as post merge jobs and compile documents (from markdown or docbook) and publish the build artifacts19:42
clarkbjeblair: yup I will do that.19:42
jeblairclarkb: i think with that addition, most of the docs jobs could be put into job builder19:42
jeblair#action clarkb extend jenkins job builder to support build properties19:43
iopenstackThanks Jeblair19:43
jeblairclarkb: also, feel free to consider alternate ways of supporting those jobs -- we have tools now we didn't back then.19:43
clarkbk19:43
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jeblair#topic open disussion19:44
clarkbI have a couple things for open discussion. First gerritbot is working now. Hopefully it isn't too spammy. If it is we can tweak it19:44
LinuxJediclarkb: awesome stuff :)19:45
clarkband the other thing was I pointed puppet labs folks at jenkins job builder and they complained about the lack of documentation19:45
clarkbwould be good to add some of that especially now that it is an independent project19:45
LinuxJedia very good point, I think we did have some in the openstack-ci-puppet tree but there probably needs to be a separate set of docs19:46
jeblairclarkb: indeed.  if i ever get a spare moment, i will write some.  i'm not even sure it's completely de-openstacked yet.19:46
jeblairclarkb: in fact, i'm sure it's not.19:47
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iopenstackI am a little bit new to automation builders: what is the difference between gerritbot and jenkins?19:47
LinuxJediwe have non-openstack people begging to use it, so we will need to do that at some point19:47
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jeblairiopenstack: this is the CI/infrastructure team meeting -- you are welcome, and your question is relevant; but since you just dropped in, and i haven't seen you before, i wanted to make sure you are where you want to be.  could you introduce yourself?19:47
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iopenstackyes. sorry this is third times I am hearing on openstack meeting. I am Dan from the UK, university of surrey. I am working for EC ICT project for many years and now focus on bigData project.19:48
jeblair#action jeblair finish de-openstacking job builder19:49
jeblairiopenstack: thanks for dropping by; i haven't heard of anyone using sonar.  are you?19:49
iopenstackI like to learn something from your guys and get to find a place to contribute if I can.19:50
LinuxJediiopenstack: in answer to your second question, gerritbot is an IRC bot which tells us about changes.  Not really comparable to Jenkins19:50
iopenstacknot yet. but I would like to try to use it. Maybe it would be a good idea to use it/19:50
jeblairiopenstack: a lot of our work is documented here: http://ci.openstack.org/  though it can certainly be updated19:51
iopenstackLinuxJedi, thanks. I will take a look at.19:51
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iopenstackthanks. jeblair.19:51
jeblairiopenstack: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ci-puppet19:51
jeblairiopenstack: that's the puppet repo where the code and configuration for all of the CI and infrastructure systems resides -- you may be able to answer questions that the docs don't answer by looking there...19:51
iopenstackThanks Jeblair. all are catched.19:52
jeblairiopenstack: if you think that sonar is useful, i would recommend talking to some of the PTLs for the core projects about it, or bringing it up on the mailing list19:52
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jeblairiopenstack: and if people decide it's worth running centrally, we can help you get it going.19:53
LinuxJediiopenstack: any further CI/infra questions after the meeting can be directed to the #openstack-infra and other openstack development questions the #openstack-dev channel19:53
iopenstackJeblair: Thanks. I will do that after I have done a little bit research19:54
jeblairiopenstack: personally, i have no experience with it -- so i can't offer an opinion right now as to whether we can or should run it.19:54
jeblairtime is short; anyone have anything else?19:54
iopenstackok. thanks. If I got finding something useful, I will be back in the next meeting.19:54
LinuxJediwe should have mtaylor and a couple of others back for next week's meeting19:55
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jeblair#action iopenstack looking into sonar19:55
jeblairor whatever remains of them after burning man.  :)19:55
LinuxJediindeed :)19:56
LinuxJedihe better be back, I have stuff that needs approving :)19:56
jeblairokay, thanks everyone!19:56
jeblair#endmeeting19:56
openstackMeeting ended Tue Sep  4 19:56:35 2012 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)19:56
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iopenstackhehe: thanks19:56
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ttxo/20:59
bcwaldonttx: hey hey20:59
ttxheckj, notmyname, jgriffith, vishy, devcamcar/gabrielhurley, danwent: around ?21:00
danwento/21:00
ttxbcwaldon: hello!21:00
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bcwaldonttx: hopefully your vacation was relaxing21:00
heckjo/21:01
gabrielhurleyo/21:01
ttxbcwaldon: apparently vacationing in the middle of election setup, design summit website buildup and FFE period is not optimal, go figure21:01
ttxStill missing vishy and notmyname if I count correctly21:02
vishyo/21:02
ttx#startmeeting project21:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep  4 21:02:22 2012 UTC.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'project'21:02
ttxAgenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting21:02
ttx#info In particular we'll look into progress towards folsom-rc1 and Swift 1.7.021:02
ttx#info Remember RC1 is a release candidate, so it will be your Folsom release unless we decide new bugs were found that warrant a respin21:03
ttx#link http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseCycle21:03
ttx#info I'd like us to produce our RC1s ASAP next week, and in all cases before September 1821:03
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ttxso that they can see solid regression testing before final release21:03
ttxand we can all focus on documentation and migration doc21:03
ttx#topic Keystone status21:03
ttxheckj: hello!21:04
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/folsom-rc121:04
ttxAll feature blueprints completed, a few bugs left targeted21:04
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heckjwe're looking pretty good21:04
ttxheckj: The two v3api bugs... are they still necessary ? aren't they Grizzly/Apiv3 ?21:04
heckjnope - need to move them out from that targeting21:04
ttxI can do that for you.21:05
ttxAnything else (not on the list) that should definitely be fixed before we can build a release candidate ?21:05
ttxI'd suggest bug 102261421:05
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1022614 in keystone "Memcache token backend does not expire tokens" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102261421:05
ttxheckj: what do you think ?21:06
* heckj looks21:06
ttxbut the review was abandoned...21:06
heckjdocumentation related bug - issue was related to timezone offsets21:08
heckj(or at least that's the easiest fix)21:08
heckjwoul dbe a good RC1 bug21:09
ttxok, so maybe its status should be updated (and importance reset)21:09
ttxheckj: Looking at that list you seem reasonably close to publishing a RC1 ?21:09
ttxi.e. early next week should be ok ?21:09
heckjyeah, I think we're pretty close. We had a new bug come in today, but so far it's been nicely stable21:09
ttxheckj: anything else ?21:09
heckjright now, next week is looking good21:09
heckjnothing els21:09
ttxQuestions about Keystone ?21:10
ttxnotmyname: around ?21:11
ttxlet's skip and go back21:12
ttx#topic Glance status21:12
ttxbcwaldon: o/21:12
notmynamettx: sorry here21:12
ttxnotmyname: argh21:12
bcwaldonttx: I'll wait21:12
ttxbcwaldon: ok :)21:12
ttx#topic Swift status21:13
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.7.021:13
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ttx#info So the milestone-proposed branch was cut earlier today... please test21:13
notmyname1.7.0 is ready for QA testing21:13
ttx#link https://github.com/openstack/swift/commits/milestone-proposed21:13
ttx#link http://tarballs.openstack.org/swift/swift-milestone-proposed.tar.gz21:13
ttxnotmyname: Any vague ETA on the QA sign-off on this ?21:13
notmynamethe goal is still sept 13, as it was. we simply cut it early so we don't run into QA scheduling difficulty like we did last time21:14
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ttxOK. Do you have any blueprint implemented in that version that should be linked on this page ?21:14
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notmynameso that's the end date, but if it's done earlier, great!21:14
ttxMaybe https://blueprints.launchpad.net/swift/+spec/zone-concept-change ?21:14
notmynameya, I need to go through them and bring it up to date21:14
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ttx#action notmyname to go through 1.7.0 features and target blueprints accordingly21:15
ttxnotmyname: you confirm that this should be the final Folsom release for Swift, unless shit happens ?21:15
ttx(shit being a critical bug or regression found between now and final release that would warrant a 1.7.1)21:15
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notmynamecorrect. 1.7.0 should be the final release for folsom. bugs will be backported to 1.7.0 until QA has certified it. anything after that will only happen in folsom if it's a major security issue21:16
notmynameor other critical issue21:16
ttxOK, that makes it like the equivalent of a folsom-rc1 for you. "Good for release until proven otherwise"21:16
ttxnotmyname: anything else ?21:16
notmynamecorrect (but I think we'll have at least one patch)21:16
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notmynamenothing else from me21:16
ttxQuestions on Swift ?21:16
ttx#topic Glance status21:17
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ttxbcwaldon: we are back online21:17
bcwaldonttx: hey there21:17
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/folsom-rc121:17
ttxAll feature blueprints completed, 12 bugs still targeted, almost all under review21:18
ttxConfident you can nail all those down this week ?21:18
bcwaldonttx: yep21:18
bcwaldonttx: just need help to get the reviews done21:18
ttxThis one looked abandoned last time I looked: bug 103981521:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1039815 in glance "v2 API should provide official openstack image property schemas" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103981521:18
bcwaldonttx: ah, it is abandoned21:18
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ttxshould move off-radar ?21:19
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bcwaldonthat needs to be targeted at grizzler21:19
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ttxok, untargeting then21:19
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ttxThis one is unassigned: bug 1042823... you're on it ?21:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1042823 in glance "glance-control <service> reload doesn't work with multiprocessing" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104282321:19
bcwaldonttx: yes21:19
ttxbcwaldon: Looks all good. Anything else ?21:19
bcwaldonttx: nope, going well21:20
ttxQuestions on Glance ?21:20
ttx#topic Quantum status21:20
danwenthello21:20
ttxdanwent: hey21:20
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/folsom-rc121:21
ttxLooks like you finally got all the features in ?21:21
danwentyes.21:21
danwentwe have two non-trivial reviews still in progress21:21
danwentone is the nova security groups stuff.21:21
ttxCool, more focus on bugfixing, doc and extinguishing fires21:21
danwentvish +2'd, but we still need a second nova core reviewer21:21
danwent#help nova review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12173/21:21
danwentthe other is an L3 that we have core devs on, and am not worried about.21:22
danwentmy goal was to be completely in bugfix/doc stage by this meeting.  we didn't quite make it, but we're pretty close21:22
ttxIs the RC1 bug list current with known RC1 blockers ?21:22
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danwentwhat I've been doing is that anything High or above is a blocker for RC121:23
ttxdanwent: Confident you can fix them all this week ?21:23
danwent(we don't allow any commits that don't have an RC1 targeted bug)21:23
ttxGiven your team bugfix rate it definitely sounds doable.21:23
danwenti'm very confident we can fix all of the known issues now.  Question mark is just around what else will pop up as we do more testing and documenting21:23
ttxindeed21:23
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ttxdanwent: Would you like to talk about bug 1023169 ?21:24
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1023169 in quantum "update nova to report quantum floating IPs" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102316921:24
danwentI also started email threads with you about floating-ip/nova stuff, and devstack stuff.  we can handle that offline if you like.21:24
danwentthis is related to the email I recently sent you21:24
ttxright. Maybe we can handle this offline and at the nova meeting21:24
danwentwill likely drop this, unless you/vish feel we shoudl do it.  Not clear it makes sense to do a half-way nova/quantum proxy for floating IPs.21:24
ttxthat's the only orange flag I've on quantum21:24
danwentttx: agreed21:24
danwentdevstack gating is the other one21:25
danwentbut we have an existing thread about that too.21:25
ttx#info orange flag with https://launchpad.net/bugs/102316921:25
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1023169 in quantum "update nova to report quantum floating IPs" [High,In progress]21:25
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ttxwell, devstack gating is not really a release issue, more like a general QA issue21:25
danwentagreed.21:25
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ttxLooking at bug triaging, you have 8 untriaged, but from known quantum dudes, so it should be a ballpark walk.21:26
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ttxdanwent: Anything else ?21:26
danwentok, will take a look.  was trying to get people to bug triage during review day‚Ķ didn't work well :P21:26
danwentnope21:26
ttxQuestions on Quantum ?21:26
ttx#topic Cinder status21:27
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ttxjgriffith: o/21:27
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/folsom-rc121:27
jgriffithhowdy21:27
ttxAll feature blueprints completed, 1 bug left targeted21:27
ttxIs this one the only known blocker for RC1 ?21:27
jgriffithPretty much21:27
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jgriffithThe pylint bugs we'll see21:27
ttxso you should be ontrack for RC1 early next week21:27
jgriffithYup21:28
ttxYou should keep on triaging incoming bugs, make sure there isn't anything reported that should definitely be fixed before release21:28
jgriffithWith the exception of the giant sync up21:28
ttxgiant sync up ?21:28
jgriffithnova-volume/cinder21:28
ttxthat's cinder -> nova-volume ?21:28
jgriffithYes21:28
creihtjgriffith: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/102809221:28
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1028092 in nova "Resizing a Xen instance with attached volumes fails" [Undecided,In progress]21:28
ttxok, so mostly affecting nova21:29
creihtI would really like for that to get in21:29
creihtif possible21:29
creihtreview for it is up21:29
jgriffithcreiht: That's listed under NOva21:29
jgriffith:)21:29
ttxjgriffith: that can easily be fixed :)21:29
* creiht waves a bunch of hands21:29
ttxjgriffith: want me to move it under cinder ?21:29
jgriffithYes, but it fails Jenkins and has a -121:29
jgriffithNeeds fixed21:29
jgriffithttx: I can do it no problem21:29
jgriffithBUT21:29
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creihtjgriffith: yes renuka is working on it21:29
creihtwell I want it to be in nova-volume, whatever that means for cinder is up to you :)21:30
jgriffithRenuka and I discussed whether it's feasible to get xen SM in cinder at this point or not21:30
jgriffithIt's changed dramatically over the last week or so21:30
jgriffithcreiht: Yeah, I know your position21:30
creiht:)21:30
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creihtOf course, once we start moving to cinder, then I will worry about it ;)21:31
jgriffithTalking to Renuka it likely will be Grizzly for Cinder21:31
creihtjgriffith: if that is the case, then will cinder not be a bit for bit copy of nova-volume?21:31
ttxjgriffith: i'll move it to cinder and put the RC1 flag on it, just so that it's on release radar21:31
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ttxthen you can wontfix or defer it21:32
jgriffithcreiht: can't put one by you21:32
jgriffith:)21:32
creihtheh21:32
jgriffithttx: I'll talk to Renuka again21:32
ttxjgriffith: Anything else ?21:32
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jgriffithttx: If it's doable we'll update21:32
creihtnot trying to stir things up... just that anyone running Xen SM will be stuck with nova-volume until it is available in cinder21:33
jgriffithttx: The only other concern I have is snapshot deletes and migration21:33
jgriffithttx: But not for this meeting21:33
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ttxQuestions on Cinder ?21:33
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jgriffithcreiht: This is way maintaining both SUCKS21:33
jgriffiths/way/why/21:34
ttx#topic Nova status21:34
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ttxvishy: hi!21:34
creihtttx is in a hurry today21:34
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/folsom-rc121:34
creihtbut I step off my soapbox21:34
ttxcreiht: I always fear that Nova might take a bit long :)21:35
vishyhi21:36
ttxvishy: So we are all set on the feature front ?21:36
vishyyes21:36
ttxThere was a request posted last week by Nachi about metabridge driver...21:36
vishyfeatures done21:36
ttxhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2012-August/000844.html21:36
vishyi think that one is too late21:36
ttxdanwent, opinion on this one ?21:36
ttxvishy: that's what I think too... unless it's actually an integration bug and not really a feature21:37
danwenti'm ok passing on it21:37
danwentvif-drivers can be installed separately if needed anyway21:37
danwentits a completely standalone module21:37
ttxok. i'll admit not having understood what it was about, so I happily defer to your judgement21:37
danwent(note: i haven't looked at the patch, but if this is a standard vif driver, that's the case)21:37
ttx#info metabridge driver FFE denied, no more FFE anyway at this point21:37
ttxvishy: Looking at RC bugs, you have 19 targeted21:38
ttxIs that a full view of the RC1 blockers, or do you still have to go through the list ?21:38
vishyi haven't gone through it yet, but i would assume they are all blockers for nwo21:39
ttx(there are actually 21 now, I just added bug 1046020 and bug 1046040)21:39
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1046020 in nova "attach_volume fails for LXC due to wrong root_device_name and path" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104602021:39
vishyi will pare it down21:39
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1046040 in nova "Project-specific flavors broke Horizon flavor admin" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104604021:39
ttxwhich sounded like regressions to me21:39
vishythey are21:39
ttxvishy: There are a number of unassigned ones... I fear those might not get completed this week21:39
ttxvishy: +1 to paring down as we progress in the week. We'll review again at the Nova meeting Thursday21:40
vishysounds good21:41
ttxLooking at triaging now... we are still at ~49, so not much progress in the last week21:41
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ttxI'll try to go over some of them (again), but this is not good news if we couldn't summon enough goodwill in Nova to get that done in 3 weeks :(21:41
ttx#info orange flag: bug triaging still lagging behind, some issues might fly below radar21:42
ttxvishy: Anything else that keeps you awake those nights ?21:42
vishynope just bugs21:42
vishyxml progress is going well21:42
vishywe should at least have base api and important extensions covered21:43
vishyI doubt we will have all extensions but we will at least know where we stand for the important stuff21:43
ttxsounds good. It will always be incrementally better than essex21:43
ttxwonder if we should have yet another "XML?" session at the design summit21:44
ttxor maybe an XML-themed party where "enterprise users" can try to convince us with cocktails21:44
ttxQuestions on Nova ?21:44
vishyhaha21:45
danwenti'm there21:45
ttx"XML night: enterprise users pay drinks"21:45
gabrielhurley+121:45
ttx#topic Horizon status21:45
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gabrielhurley'ello21:46
ttxgabrielhurley: hey21:46
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/folsom-rc121:46
ttxSo quantum-public-network was merged ?21:46
gabrielhurleyit was. turned out to be a pretty minimal change to Horizon and totally backwards-compatible21:46
ttxAwesome. So you're done with features now, looking pretty good21:46
gabrielhurleyonce it made it through nova and quantum it was easy21:46
gabrielhurleyyep21:46
gabrielhurleyfound an important nova breakage today21:46
gabrielhurleyvish is working on that21:46
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gabrielhurleyotherwise bugs are doing fine21:46
ttxyes, I targeted it earlier21:46
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gabrielhurleyI saw, thanks21:47
ttx7 Horizon targeted bugs left, all relatively low-prio21:47
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gabrielhurleyyeah, the rest are all nice-to-haves21:47
ttxgabrielhurley: You still look on top of triaging and targeting... Anything else you wanted to mention ?21:47
gabrielhurleytesting of the quantum integration is appreciated21:47
gabrielhurleythat's about it21:47
danwentseems like the following issues if floating a bit between nova + horizon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/104095621:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1040956 in nova ""Unable to get quota information" in horizon when using quantum" [Critical,Confirmed]21:48
danwentnot sure if there is agreement on the right place to fix21:48
gabrielhurley^^that21:48
uvirtbotgabrielhurley: Error: "^that" is not a valid command.21:48
ttxdanwent: nice find21:49
* ttx reads -- vishy: comment ?21:49
gabrielhurleymy last understanding was that it was more of a nova-side fix21:49
danwenti think the "right fix" is either to actually proxy floating ips in nova to quantum, or to fix it in horizon by having horizon recognize that quantum does not support nova floating IP commands.21:50
gabrielhurleyI just triaged it into RC1 to follow up on it21:50
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danwentthere's a third one-line trivial fix in nova, but its really just a band-aid21:50
danwentthanks21:50
gabrielhurleyif nova decides not to fix it we can band-aid it in horizon21:50
ttxdanwent: so it's linked to taht other floating IP/Quantum support issue, right ?21:50
danwentttx: yes21:50
ttxok, that's an identified orange flag, no need to raise another one21:51
ttxOther questions for Horizon ?21:51
danwentttx: ah, its a slightly different bug21:51
danwentbut close enough.21:51
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ttxdanwent: right, not same bug, but same release decision to make, I guess21:52
danwentagreed21:52
ttx#topic Other Team reports21:52
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ttxannegentle: around ?21:52
annegentleyep21:53
ttxannegentle: how is doc shaping up ?21:53
annegentleMy report hasn't changed much from what I sent to the mailing list last week. Lots of Qs over "our" three day weekend but not a lot of patches21:53
annegentle#help More docs please.21:53
ttxI hope that people will gradually shift focus toward docs as RC1s go out21:53
annegentleI'll send another weekly update tomorrow.21:53
danwentannegentle: quantum team is planning on drafting admin docs in google docs first, is there a major concern about that?21:54
ttxannegentle: one concern that was raised last week is about migration doc21:54
annegentledanwent: I don't have much visibility to it if it's not in openstack-manuals, but I can take a look21:54
danwentidea is that its pretty easy for people to collaborate and merge their content21:54
annegentledanwent: ditto for openstack-manuals :) I don't mind simple first though.21:54
ttxannegentle: how is that handled currently (migration) ?21:54
danwentannegentle: ok, will follow-up later21:54
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ttxannegentle: at which doc level should we address that ?21:55
annegentlemigration sections exist for Keystone, say. Not really an overall "how to migrate" section done yet, though I did open a doc bug.21:55
annegentlettx: if "that" is migration it's probably for ops/admins first21:55
ttxannegentle: some suggested that we should maintain a lower-level MIGRATION text file in source code, not sure how good that would be though21:56
annegentlettx: oh I saw that on the -dev list and responded there. Honestly dev-level MIGRATION text isn't really what people are looking for. They want operator level stuff, unless I'm missing some concept.21:56
annegentleno one really said an opinion on my response so far21:57
ttxannegentle: no, I'd agree with you. Also per-project doesn't really make sense there21:57
ttxsince you might want to expain you should update keystone before glance or the other way around21:57
ttxannegentle: anything else ?21:58
ttxAny other team lead with a status report ?21:58
annegentlenope, thanks for asking21:59
ttx#topic Open discussion21:59
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ttx#info If you want to be elected PTL for openstack-common, Glance, Nova, Keystone, Swift, Quantum, Cinder or Horizon, remember to submit your candidacy before EOD tomorrow !21:59
ttxIn related news, I'll try to finalize the summit session suggestion site tomorrow22:00
ttxso we all start planning the design summit next month22:00
ttxAnything else, anyone ?22:00
ttxok then...22:01
ttx#endmeeting22:01
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ttxThanks everyone22:01
jgriffithttx: Thank you!22:01
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annegentlettx: ty22:01
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