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primeministerp#startmeeting Hyper-V15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 18 15:00:04 2012 UTC.  The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v'15:00
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primeministerpGood day everyone15:00
alexpilottiHi guys!15:00
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primeministerplots of people around today15:00
primeministerpwhich is good15:00
primeministerp#topic Cinder15:01
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primeministerppnavarro: so I hear it's a vhd backed solution right now15:01
pnavarro#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/windows2012driver15:01
primeministerppnavarro: any thought of using physical devices?15:01
pnavarroyes, It's15:01
primeministerp10:57 -!- Topic set by openstack [~openstack@openstack/openstack] [Mon Sep 17 17:55:30 2012]15:02
primeministerp10:57 -!- Topic set by openstack [~openstack@openstack/openstack] [Mon Sep 17 17:55:30 2012]15:02
primeministerpdamn windows/cygwin15:02
primeministerpforget that15:02
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* primeministerp checks out the blueprint15:02
primeministerpi can't see much15:03
pnavarroprimeministerp: yeah15:03
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primeministerppnavarro: so in general i think it's great if we can has out real use cases for the driver15:04
pnavarroprimeministerp: so, about physical devices... I have to do some research15:04
primeministerpvhd is great for small15:04
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primeministerpbut we need similar to what the lvm mgmt layer is doing15:04
primeministerppnavarro: how much more difficult is it going to be15:05
pnavarroISCSI target role, AFAIK it just know exporting ISCSI target associated with VHD ISCSI Virtual disks15:05
primeministerpto add support for say scsi or sata devices15:05
primeministerpright, however to swap that to be physical disk/partitions15:05
primeministerpthat get created on the fly15:05
primeministerpthink it's do able through the wmi interface to the iscsi target15:06
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pnavarrook I see your use case15:06
primeministerppnavarro: use case is same as linux15:06
primeministerppnavarro: we have a disk15:06
primeministerpwe cut it up15:06
primeministerpand export those partitions as iscsi luns15:07
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primeministerpby reducing our layers, ... device -> partition -> filesystem -> vhd15:07
primeministerpwe increase performance15:07
pnavarrowith this driver, you have a disk D:\ and the driver cuts it up in VHD fildes..15:07
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primeministerppnavarro: what i'm asking is how hard is it going to be to have it control the disk, vs. putting files on a filesystem15:08
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primeministerppnavarro: in terms of additional coding15:08
pnavarroI can't answer this question now...15:09
primeministerppnavarro: fair enough15:09
primeministerppnavarro: do you understand the use case15:09
primeministerpi.e. scsi, sata, or sas device, no filessystem, just partitions15:09
alexpilottipnavarro primeministerp http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771378.aspx15:09
pnavarroVmware, blocks are mapped in vmdk through vmdkDeviceFileMapping and the have no problems in performance...15:09
alexpilottipnavarro: did u take a look at Storage Manager?15:10
alexpilottipnavarro: I don-t think it could be suitable for a simple attached HDD15:11
pnavarrono, I will take a loot at Storage manager15:11
primeministerppnavarro: perfect15:11
primeministerpmoving on15:11
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primeministerpanything else in regards to cinder15:12
primeministerpif not15:12
primeministerp#topic bug fixes15:12
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primeministerpalexpilotti: has been spending time correcting issues15:12
primeministerpalexpilotti: thanks again for your efforts15:12
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primeministerpI reached out to jay regarding #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13153/15:13
alexpilottiprimeministerp: great tx!15:13
primeministerpalexpilotti: is that the only current outstanding one left?15:14
alexpilottione of the things I'm looking into now is Keystone AD integration15:14
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alexpilottiprimeministerp: yep15:14
primeministerpyou saw the thread last week15:14
alexpilottijosecastroleon: do you have perhaps any update on AD integration?15:14
primeministerp#topic ad integration w/ keystone15:14
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alexpilottijosecastroleon: ^^15:15
alexpilottiluis_fdez: ping15:16
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primeministerpjosecastroleon: ad/keystone updates?15:16
josecastroleonthere are two fixes sent to upstream15:16
primeministerpjosecastroleon: do you have links?15:16
josecastroleonthey are waiting for code review15:16
alexpilottijosecastroleon: do you have the revie link at hand?15:17
primeministerpjosecastroleon: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13185/15:17
primeministerpjosecastroleon: i'll see adam tonight15:18
josecastroleonwith this to submitted using only the configuration we can point to AD15:18
primeministerpjosecastroleon: great15:18
josecastroleonthere is a small change on the roleOccupant class on AD that needs to be done in order to make it work15:18
primeministerpjosecastroleon: is that for tenant's and roles?15:18
josecastroleonprimeministerp: and users as well15:19
primeministerpjosecastroleon: do you require svs for unix, to extend the ad schema15:19
josecastroleonyep, but as far as I know, this comes with AD in windows200815:20
primeministerpjosecastroleon: i'll be able to try w/ 2012 soon15:20
primeministerpjosecastroleon: do you have documenation for the ad side of things?15:20
josecastroleonprimeministerp: cool15:20
josecastroleonnot yet, today i was updating the patches15:21
josecastroleonbut it is quite easy15:21
primeministerpcould you shoot it over in an email15:21
josecastroleoni can send you our config file15:21
alexpilottijosecastroleon: great, tx!15:21
primeministerpjosecastroleon: and for the ad parts, did you have to do anything specific15:21
josecastroleonon ad you need to modify one parameter in roleOccupant class15:22
josecastroleonto add groupOfNames as a possible superior15:22
primeministerpjosecastroleon: is that step documented?15:23
josecastroleonIn our environment, we won't create the users using keystone15:23
josecastroleoni'll attach it on the mail15:23
primeministerpjosecastroleon: perfect15:23
primeministerpjosecastroleon: i'll see if i can add it to the docs somewhere15:24
primeministerpanything else re: ad/keystone?15:24
primeministerpjosecastroleon: are you all set for San Diego?15:25
primeministerp#topic Documentation15:25
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alexpilottijosecastroleon: are you or any of your collegues coming to S.Diego?15:25
primeministerpactually on that note15:25
primeministerpi spoke w/ University of Kentucky15:26
primeministerpthey were possibly going to attend today15:26
primeministerpnot sure if anyone is here15:26
josecastroleonTim, belmiro and me are going to S.Diego15:26
primeministerpjosecastroleon: great, we'll be looking for you15:27
primeministerpok so back to docs15:27
alexpilottijosecastroleon: cool. We'll be sponsors, plz drop by at our booth when u are around :-)15:27
primeministerpI have the documenation to submit, however my launchpad id auth is still broken and there's not much movement15:27
primeministerpI'll try to get something done today15:27
primeministerpAndrewWeiss: did you review the docs?15:28
primeministerpAndrewWeiss: any issues15:28
AndrewWeissprimeministerp: sure did, no issues at this point15:28
AndrewWeissprimeministerp: at a client offsite, won't be able to take another look until friday unfortunately15:28
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primeministerpAndrewWeiss: no problems, EmilienM you were looking at them as well15:28
primeministerpEmilienM: you said you had some changes15:29
EmilienMprimeministerp: yes15:29
pnavarroguys, I have to live earlier, I'll check the meeting logs. See you !15:29
primeministerppnavarro: thanks pnavarro15:29
alexpilottipnavarro: quick question15:29
alexpilottipnavarro: did u do anything in particular for keystone integration?15:30
alexpilottipnavarro: I mean for cinder15:30
EmilienMprimeministerp: for the PDF to be precise15:30
primeministerpEmilienM: o sure15:31
EmilienMprimeministerp: when I tried Hyper-V + Essex, I met some troubles, and we need update the PDF15:31
primeministerpEmilienM: we're only focused on Folsom15:31
primeministerpthe Essex stuff isn't going to be maintained15:31
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primeministerpEmilienM: it's not going to be backported15:32
EmilienMprimeministerp: yep, I know, that's why I can update it into docbook documentation15:32
primeministerpEmilienM: o15:32
primeministerpEmilienM: perfect, well if i can't get my launchpad id fixed, by tomorrow, i'll let you submit the docs15:32
primeministerpwe can't wait for more longer15:32
EmilienMprimeministerp: sure15:33
primeministerpannegentle: ping15:33
* EmilienM waiting for https://launchpad.net/~openstack-cla approval to push some docs15:33
primeministerpannegentle: my launchpad issues still exist, if they aren't fixed by tomorrow i'm going to have EmilienM post the hyper-v docs15:33
annegentlewish I had rights to that list15:33
primeministerpfor review15:33
annegentleok, perfect.15:33
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annegentleEmilienM: I can help too if you run into anything15:34
EmilienMannegentle: can you do something for my https://launchpad.net/~openstack-cla approval pending ?15:34
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annegentleEmilienM: I'll bug mtaylor and others :)15:35
EmilienMannegentle: thank you so much :)15:35
primeministerpok then,15:35
annegentlethank you both for your diligence!15:36
primeministerp#topic general discussion15:36
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primeministerpannegentle: just trying to get it done15:36
primeministerpok anyone have anything else they wish to add, or did we miss anything?15:36
primeministerpjosecastroleon: o btw I emailed ayoung to see if he can review those15:37
alexpilottiprimeministerp: I'm ok tx!15:37
primeministerpok if that's it everyone, i'm going to end it15:37
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heckjfocus doesn't follow eyes, gets me every time17:58
dolphmyeah they need to fix that17:59
dolphmi'll file a bug with my window manager :)18:00
heckj#startmeeting keystone18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'18:00
heckjola all -18:00
heckjI never updated the Agenda from the last meeting (my bad) - so it's pretty light for today18:00
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heckj#topic hot issues18:01
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heckjWe've got RC1 cut and out there, and testing is being actively encouraged against the whole RC1 kit available18:01
heckjNo new bugs (as of this morning) against keystone18:01
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gyeenot sure if there's a bug with auth_token middleware18:01
gyeebut seems like it no longer supports the cache property18:02
heckjThere's an outstanding high pri bug against keystoneclient that I need to nail down - might be pebkac, just need to try and repro it18:02
gyeeswift global cache I mean18:02
heckjgyee: is there a bug filed there? And is that against auth_token or the swift variation of auth_token that's in swift's repo?18:02
dolphmheckj: link?18:02
dolphmheckj: or details18:02
gyeeheckj, I was going to file one, I just want to make sure its not intentional18:03
heckjdolphm: this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+bug/95361918:03
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 953619 in python-keystoneclient "when create a tenant,the enabled's status is false,but when call tenant-list ,the enabled's status is true" [Critical,Triaged]18:03
gyeeused to be "cache = swift.cache" and swift.cache is set via env18:03
gyeenow we have to use local caching which is cache_servers18:03
dolphmheckj: it looks like it's interpreting 'false' as a string -- i remember there being a similar bug in the client at some point18:04
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gyeeauth_token still part of keystone right? just swift_auth had moved18:05
dolphmgyee: as of today, yes18:05
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gyeeI mean there's only one version of auth_token right?18:05
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heckjgyee: yep, just wanted to make sure you weren't using swift_auth instead of auth_token in your install - they do similiar things18:05
gyeeI'll file a bug then, auth_token no longer support the cache property18:06
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gyeethat breaks backward compatibility18:06
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dolphmanyone see this review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12844/18:08
dolphmto remove (some) backslash continuations18:08
heckjdolphm: yeah - he's been periodically doing those18:09
heckjgyee: thanks - bug welcome!18:09
dolphmi'd be in favor of A) removing all backslash continuations, including sqlalchemy queries, and B) having a simple gate on jenkins to keep them out of the code for good18:09
gyeeA + B :)18:10
dolphmcurious how attached ya'll are to the session.query() \ .filter() \ .filter() \ .first() style18:10
dolphmcause i hate it18:10
heckjI thought it was cute, but don't have a strong opinion on it18:11
heckj(was readable for me)18:11
gyeesame here, as long as the code still readable18:11
heckjfine with putting in a test in unit tests that break on continuations existing and then using that as a gate mechanism - it's what other projects are doing18:11
dolphmwhile we're at it, we could gate on trailing whitespace lol18:11
dolphmheckj: a unit test?18:12
heckjI think that's what nova had set up - something in the unit test framework that ran through the code and barfed if formatting wasn't kosher - wouldn't need to go re-read through that again18:13
heckj#topic open discussion18:13
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heckjFor summit sessions, have folks been suggesting items?18:13
heckjI haven't scheduled many as yet - was going to sit down this weekend and work through some topics to get up there18:13
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gyeeanybody created wadl and xsd for v3 yet?18:16
heckjgyee: not yet18:16
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heckjdolphm: I've started to truck through the reviews for the V3 branches18:16
heckj(starting on client work)18:16
heckjwas curious what the serialization method you set up was aimed at18:16
heckj(can dig up the review if you need)18:17
dolphmheckj: i responded to you comment this morning18:17
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dolphmheckj: basically i need to pass sort_keys=True18:17
dolphmheckj: and doing so in the v2 client breaks all the v2 tests18:17
* heckj hasn't seen the emails from gerrit on that yet18:18
heckjgot it18:18
dolphmheckj: doing it that way was easier than rewriting all the v2 tests :)18:18
heckjword, I'm good with it then - will change my review there18:18
heckjany other topics? If not, I'll close this out early...18:20
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dolphmheckj: oh, v3 draft #next18:22
dolphmheckj: how do you want to go about that, because i've got a list of notes that need to go into the next draft, based on what i've implemented18:22
* heckj is a damn slacker and hasn't done it yet18:22
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heckj#action heckj to update the draft and create a new version18:23
dolphmheckj: i'd be more than happy to do the next draft if you'd prefer18:23
heckjdolphm: If you'd like to, have at18:23
dolphmheckj: want to set up a new doc and send me the link?18:23
dolphmi'll also include a "changes from the previous draft" type section18:24
heckjdolphm: yep, you got it18:25
heckjdolphm: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gI_OEc_ZybuKFMGkQwELbkClqoIXsR3Fi8wqH2DvX-I/edit18:27
dolphmheckj: can you give me edit privs at dolph.mathews@gmail.com18:28
heckjdolphm: locked comments on previous version18:28
heckjdolphm: done - get rid of antiver?18:29
dolphmheckj: yeah18:29
heckjayoung: you around?18:29
dolphmheckj: trying to switch all my stuff over to the email address i actually use :)18:29
heckjpermissions updated18:30
heckjOkay - headin' out for a while -18:31
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dolphmheckj: thanks18:31
heckjdolphm: np18:32
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clarkbmtaylor: we meeting today?19:04
* fungi was about to ask the same19:04
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fungiwe've got a tornado watch going on in my area, so hopefully i won't drop in the middle of saying someth19:06
mtaylor#startmeeting CI19:07
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ci'19:07
mtayloranybody still around?19:07
fungionly mostly19:07
mtaylorso - fungi, how's that CLA stuff going?19:07
fungilooks like we're ready to merge #link https://review.openstack.org/13058 if jeblair has a chance to look19:08
jeblair#topic gerrit/foundation CLA integration19:08
jeblairi can't topic, can i?19:08
mtaylor#topic gerrit/foundation CLA integration19:08
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mtaylorI can19:08
fungishould allow us to demo it on review-dev.openstack.org while we wait for the foundation to set up a server for the contact store19:08
fungiit all works as expected on my test gerrit19:09
mtayloranybody know how that's going on the foundation side?19:09
mtaylorreed: ?19:09
jeblairi think he said earlier that he had no updates.19:10
mtaylorok. cool19:10
fungihe did indeed say that19:10
mtaylorwell, testing through on our side is still good19:10
* mtaylor doesn't like being blocked on things other than his own laziness19:10
* fungi notices it suddenly got very quiet in here19:12
mtaylorbut that seems to be in good shape from our end19:12
mtaylorfungi: hehe19:12
mtaylorfungi: anything else interesting in your world?19:12
fungicontinuing to read and watch, and also poking at git-patch-id to see what i can do for a --no-whitespace-really-matters option19:12
funginothing terribly exciting yet19:13
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mtaylorclarkb: how about you? anything fun this past week?19:14
clarkbI did the things that were stuck to me last tuesday. Bug reports and such.19:15
clarkbThe most exciting thing is the translation jobs though19:15
mtaylor#topic translations19:15
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clarkbso we got the jobs mostly working on Nova. To get there we needed to copy ssh keys to tx.slave.o.o and give the jenkins transifex user admin privs on transifex for nova19:16
clarkbThis worked the first time around and updated translations were merged and everything was happy.19:16
clarkbBut I had to use git review 1.17 which tries to rebase which fails on current runs of the translation proposal job so everything is no longer happy. I need to rewrite the script to use the commit message of existing changes, but work atop master instead of the old patchset19:17
jeblairit's not the rebasing, per se, that's the problems --19:18
clarkbits that we want to be working off the latest code but don't when an existing patchset is on gerrit19:18
clarkbthe rebasing pointed this problem out to us though19:18
clarkbso Nova is almost there. Horizon is a different story19:19
jeblairwhen a rebase is necessary and there's a conflict, there's no human to fix it, so it semes like the better approach is just sort of start over each time.19:19
mtaylorI'm curious about this django translations setup that's superior19:20
clarkbso ya Horizon. I attempted to setup Horizon like Nova and pushed a change to Horizon in Gerrit to make it fit in and GabrielHurley said no because django does things differently and better19:21
clarkbso I have removed the Horizon translation jobs from Jenkins and abandoned that change that would make it work.19:21
mtaylorok. that's so great19:21
clarkbHorizon is special because it is a django project and django comes with its own translation tools.19:21
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mtaylorwhat is it about how django does things that's better? and can we learn something from it?19:21
mtayloror is it just different19:21
mtaylorand integrated into django land in some way that's good for django people19:22
clarkbI think the better part is it uses the gnu gettext tools19:22
mtaylordoesn't babel also use the gnu gettext tools?19:22
clarkband it uses them in a way that fits into django19:22
clarkbno, I believe babel is a from scratch implementation19:22
mtaylorshould we ditch babel and use gnu gettext tools?19:22
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clarkbone major difference is django uses multiple translation domains19:23
clarkbthere is a django domain and a djangojs domain19:23
mtaylordo all of the strings go into the django domain?19:23
mtaylorso, like, there isn't a horizon domain?19:23
clarkbmtaylor: that is how it is currently setup19:23
clarkbdjango has other weirdness like not supporting translations for languages that the django core does not support and so on19:24
mtaylorwell, that would certainly allow django code to find things19:24
clarkbso I can see where GabrielHurley is coming from when saying that it is better to use the django tools19:24
mtaylorso you were suggesting we add a set of tox calls to do things so that we can have CI things work the same everywhere?19:25
clarkbthat would be one way to get around the problem. It might also be possible to switch to gnu gettext for everything and mimic the django tools when working with Horizon19:25
mtaylorwe could also stop thinking of horizon as being python language19:26
mtaylorand think of it as a django language thing19:26
clarkbGabrielHurley and I should probably get together at the summit and get a better idea of what their needs are19:27
mtaylor#action clarkb solve django with GabrielHurley19:27
mtaylorclarkb: anything else there?19:28
clarkbkeystone is configured like nova so in general I think the current setup should work19:28
clarkband that is it19:28
mtaylorjeblair: how's bcn?19:29
jeblairit might rain.  apparently.  we'll see.19:29
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jeblairmtaylor: #topic jenkins job builder19:30
mtaylor#topic jenkins job builder19:30
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jeblair#link http://ci.openstack.org/jenkins-job-builder/19:30
mtaylorthat's really nice19:30
jeblairthat was a lot of typing.19:30
jeblairthat's most of what i've been working on19:31
jeblairthere's a bit of sphinx magic to make it easy to use autodoc19:31
* mtaylor likes the yaml autodoc sphinx stuff19:31
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jeblairso whenever we add a new component (builder, publisher, whatever), we can just write docstrings19:31
jeblairand it'll show up19:31
jeblairclark and i should have several more gating jobs for it now19:32
jeblairpep8, pyflakes, and docs19:32
clarkbjeblair: might be a good idea to add a link to http://ci.openstack.org/jenkins-job-builder/ under http://ci.openstack.org/jenkins_jobs.html19:32
jeblairit doesn't have any unit tests, (though it does have the XML comparison test, which is more important)19:32
jeblairclarkb: yes19:33
mtaylorbtw - there are a set of helper utilities in testtools that lifeless is going to split out into their own library that would help us use pyflakes in more places19:33
mtaylor(the pyflakes ref above made me think of it)19:33
mtaylorspecifically, a thing that does the try: import foo except: foo = None thing that pyflakes really hates19:33
jeblairso i think jenkins job builder is basically up to standards at this point19:34
jeblairand we've been getting contributions from internal HP users too, which is nice19:34
mtayloryeah. I'm pretty pleased about that19:34
jeblairmtaylor: there was a tempest disucssion recently where people were disatisfied with nose19:35
jeblairmtaylor: maybe testtools would be of interest to them19:35
mtaylorjeblair: ++19:35
jeblairjaypipes: ^ know about testtools?19:35
mtaylorjaypipes: ^^^19:35
mtaylorjaypipes: there's a couple of things that lifeless has been working on that might be handy: testtools and testrepository19:36
jaypipesjeblair: yes, mtaylor showed me testtools and fixtures about a month ago19:36
clarkbis nose too unittesty?19:37
mtaylorjaypipes: I'm going to make an ODS session about some of that ... hopefully today19:37
mtaylornose is not unittesty enough19:37
mtaylorit injects evil into the things it runs19:37
mtaylor#action mtaylor submit ODS session about testtools/testrepository19:38
jeblairone other thing: i've made a "dev" branch of zuul, since we're trying to keep ci in a soft freeze.19:38
jeblairsomeone pointed out that it depended on our apache git mirror.  i fixed that in the dev branch.  if i knew who that user was, i'd love to tell him.  :)19:39
jeblairthat's about it for me.19:39
mtayloroh yeah, I remember that19:40
clarkbI should probably mention jclouds19:41
clarkbI have jclouds working on jenkins-dev with hp cloud and rackspace19:42
mtaylorjeblair: do we have a time in mind for when soft freeze is over?19:42
mtaylor#topic jclouds19:42
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jeblairmtaylor: i imagine after the release ?19:43
mtaylorgood topic thought clarkb19:43
clarkbrackspace does not configure the base host in a way that the latest facter version can return an fqdn (I have complained about this and it looks like the current version of facter on github fixes part of the problem).19:44
mtaylorthat's really special19:44
clarkbI thought so too :) to get around that I am simply doing `echo "domain localdomain" >> /etc/resolv.conf` before running puppet19:45
clarkbyou can't reassign the value of a variable in another scope so I can't do $::fqdn = $hostname in the puppet expression19:45
clarkbthis was all necessary because puppetlabs-mysql uses the ::fqdn value19:46
clarkbbut that issue is sorted and jclouds can create oneiric and precise hosts on hpcloud and rackspace now.19:46
mtaylorbut it still has enough issues with things like load balancing and creating that we still want some static hosts, yeah?19:47
clarkbit doesn't load balance. It uses provider A until it hits the threshold you set for the number of VMs then switches to provider B19:47
jeblairyeah, i'm thinking the long view is maybe we drop down to about enough static hosts to run one set of jobs19:47
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jeblairand then use this to burst19:48
clarkband I think in some cases it just gives up with jobs waiting in the queue. I haven't been able to nail that down yet though19:48
jeblairin practice, i expect it will ramp up in the US morning, and the dynamic hosts will stay around most of the day19:48
jeblairclarkb: have you seen anything that would cause a job to fail?19:49
clarkbjeblair: I am beginning to think I may have been hitting thesholds on the hpcloud side that didn't show up in the jenkins logs19:49
jeblair(inefficiency we can tolerate, but actually failing jobs is bad)19:49
mtaylorjeblair: ++19:50
clarkboh, no it doesn't fail jobs that do run19:50
clarkbat least not the jobs i was running (nova unittests)19:50
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mtaylorI'm game to try it again19:50
clarkbso I think we can try using this again in production when ttx relaxes on the change freeze19:50
clarkbI do think we want to put a different label on the nodes and do something like node: precise || hpcloud-precise || rackspace-precise in the jenkins job defs19:51
mtaylorin the mean time - should we put the main config.xml into puppet with hiera values for the secrets?19:51
jeblairclarkb: why?19:51
clarkbjeblair: I think that will make it easier to control where things are run19:52
clarkbwe could optionally stop using hpcloud or rackspace for particular jobs19:52
jeblairok.  i hope we don't need to use that.  :)19:52
jeblairnice to have knobs and levers though.19:52
jeblair+1 config.xml in git19:53
clarkbmtaylor: are we managing the global jenkins config in puppet yet?19:53
mtaylorwe are not19:53
clarkbadding secrets to hiera and managing the config through puppet would be awesome19:53
mtaylorand for a while I was thinking we should yaml/job-builder it - but I think jeblair has convinced me that it changes infrequently enough that just storing the xml is ok ...19:53
mtayloroh, wait19:53
mtaylorI remember now19:53
mtaylorthe global config xml is going to suck19:54
mtaylorbecause slaves get stored into it19:54
jeblairoh, right19:54
jeblairwe, uh, change slaves often.19:54
clarkbmight need puppet parsed file provider19:54
mtaylorso we'll need to write a tool that will store _most_ of the global config.xml in puppet and then merge them19:54
mtaylorclarkb, fungi: one of you guys have the bandwidth to think about that? or perhaps you can each thing about different parts of it?19:55
mtayloror just tell me to go shove it19:55
fungii can look into it19:55
clarkbI may have bandwidth in a day or two. need to dig out from under translations19:55
clarkbfungi: be warned ruby is probably involved19:56
fungii'll need to be pointed to some more background, but it doesn't sound too dreadful19:56
* mtaylor hits fungi in the face with ruby19:56
fungiruby is tolerable19:56
fungijust don't slap me around with c#19:56
clarkbhey everyone! give fungi the ruby stuff :)19:56
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mtaylor#agreed fungi is the new ruby guy19:56
* fungi sighs19:57
mtaylorand with that ...19:57
mtaylorI believe we are at time19:57
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fungiclarkb: i'll want a sample, but we can take this to -infra19:58
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bcwaldonttx: present21:00
ttxheckj, bcwaldon, jgriffith, vishy, gabrielhurley, salv-orlando: around ?21:00
ttxnotmyname is excused, I will do a quick Swift update21:00
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ttxdevcamca-: are you representing Horizon today ? Don't see gabrielhurley on channel21:01
ttxok, let's start and hope jgriffith and Gabriel will join us21:01
ttx#startmeeting project21:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 18 21:02:04 2012 UTC.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'project'21:02
ttxAgenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting21:02
ttx9 days to final release21:02
ttxtick tick21:02
ttx#topic Actions from previous meeting21:02
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ttx* ttx to create Folsom Release Notes base wiki page: DONE21:02
ttx#link http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Folsom21:02
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ttxonly a few notes from Keystone so far21:03
heckjstill have some formatting to do21:03
ttx* notmyname to go through 1.7.0 features and target blueprints accordingly: DONE21:03
ttx#topic Keystone status21:03
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ttxheckj: o/21:03
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ttxKeystone had its RC1 published last Friday21:03
ttxLet's look at the list of folsom-rc-potential bugs:21:03
ttx#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?field.tag=folsom-rc-potential21:04
ttxquite empty I see21:04
ttxSo... no release-critical issue warranting a RC2 yet ?21:04
heckjwe've a couple on python-keystoneclient that probably apply - haven't tagged them yet21:04
heckjttx: correct - no changes in keystone itself21:04
ttxpython-keystoneclient is not interlocked with core release, so nm21:04
ttxNote that there was one bugfix in master:21:05
ttxBug 105040621:05
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1050406 in keystone "get_users on tenant retrieves duplicated entries on LDAP backend" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105040621:05
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ttxheckj: I'd say it's not worth triggering an RC2 ?21:05
* heckj reads21:05
ttxheckj: Cool. anything else ?21:05
ttxQuestions about Keystone ?21:06
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heckjI'm good21:06
ttx#topic Swift status21:06
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ttxThere was a release-critical bug discovered in Swift 1.7.0 so we'll do a 1.7.221:07
ttxThat's the version that will be in Folsom unless more shit happens.21:07
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.7.221:07
ttxafaik that bugfix should be the only change from 1.7.021:07
ttxQuestions on Swift ?21:07
ttx#topic Glance status21:08
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ttxbcwaldon: heya21:08
ttxGlance had its RC1 published last Friday21:08
ttx#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bugs?field.tag=folsom-rc-potential21:08
ttxSo you'd like to do an RC2 with those 3 ?21:09
bcwaldonttx: I did run into one problem - if I add that tag to https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1050661 then it affects multiple projects21:09
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1050661 in quantum "Default for qpid_heartbeat should be increased" [High,Fix committed]21:09
russellb4 ... i just tagged one for consideration21:09
ttxbcwaldon: no big deal, we'll convert those to RC2 soon enough21:09
bcwaldonok, whatever21:10
ttxbcwaldon: Is that list complete or do you want to add more ?21:10
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bcwaldonttx: I'm not going to commit to it right now21:10
bcwaldonttx: so assume it will change21:10
ttxbcwaldon: ok, you can propose backports to milestone-proposed and i'll check that they are not too insane for a RC221:11
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bcwaldonttx: great, that'll work21:11
bcwaldonttx: note that two potentials havent landed in master21:11
bcwaldonttx: and one doesnt have a fix yet21:11
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ttxthe one you really can't release with is.. ?21:11
ttxbug 1012820 ?21:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1012820 in glance "Diablo->Essex migration breaks Nova image_ref" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101282021:11
bcwaldonttx: *really don't want to release without"21:12
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ttx#info Glance RC2 window opening21:12
bcwaldonttx: but the one russellb just filed looks critical21:12
russellbyeah, sorry about that :-/21:12
bcwaldonI'll sync up with eglynn about it21:12
ttxbcwaldon: i'll create a RC2 milestone asap21:12
bcwaldonrussellb: I'm glad you filed it!21:12
ttxafter meeting21:12
bcwaldonno need to apologize21:12
bcwaldonttx: ok21:12
ttxbcwaldon: Anything else ?21:13
ttxQuestions on Glance ?21:13
ttxbcwaldon: https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/folsom-rc2 <-- here21:13
ttxyou can start targeting and removing folsom-rc-potential tag from bugs you target there21:14
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ttx#topic Quantum status21:14
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ttxsalv-orlando: hey21:14
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salv-orlandoHi I'm standing in for danwent tonight21:14
ttxSo we did a RC1 last Wednesday, and opened up a RC2 window recently21:14
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/folsom-rc221:14
ttxsalv-orlando: That's a large list already - all safe fixes ?21:14
salv-orlandoI put fixes up to rc2 following these criteria:21:15
salv-orlando1) readme changes21:15
salv-orlando2) changes which break plugin functionality in an obvious way21:15
salv-orlando3) really critical fixes21:15
salv-orlandoonly 3 patches have a diff larger than 10 lines21:15
ttxsalv-orlando: so same reamrk as for Brian: you can propose backports to milestone-proposed. i'll doublecheck that the corresponding fix landed in master and that the fix is not too insane for the week before final, and approve21:16
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ttxsalv-orlando: Is that RC2 list complete, or do you already plan to add more ?21:16
salv-orlandoWe also have bugs still not in the rc2 list, as we're currently investigated them21:16
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salv-orlandovery heisenbuggs21:16
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salv-orlandoit's bug 105051221:17
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1050512 in quantum "qr port of br-int is not set vlan after I restart machine and then restart quantum components" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105051221:17
salv-orlandoand bug 105167921:17
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1051679 in quantum "Error running ip netns command with l3-agent" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105167921:17
ttxon folsom-rc-potential list. Awesome21:17
salv-orlandoApart from that, that is all from the land of Quantum.21:17
ttxsalv-orlando: Anything else ?21:17
ttxQuestions on Quantum ?21:17
salv-orlandoDocumentation work is progressing fast21:17
salv-orlandoAPI doc published on docs.openstack.org21:17
ttxjgriffith: around ?21:18
ttx#topic Cinder status21:18
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ttxCinder got its RC1 out earlier today21:18
ttx#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bugs?field.tag=folsom-rc-potential21:18
ttxbug 105259821:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1052598 in cinder "cinder-manage import DB should check nova DB level" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105259821:18
ttxjgriffith: that one warrants a RC2, right ?21:18
jgriffithI think so yes21:19
ttxok let's open21:19
jgriffithIt will cause havoc if not21:19
ttxAnything you would add to RC2 from: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED21:19
jgriffithNope, not yet21:19
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/folsom-rc221:19
ttxand targeted 1052598 to it21:20
jgriffithWorks for me21:20
ttxjgriffith: Anything else ?21:20
jgriffithI may re-investigate https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/100886621:20
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1008866 in nova "Creating volume from snapshot on real/production/multicluster installation of OpenStack is broken" [Medium,In progress]21:20
jgriffithOther than that.. nothing else21:20
ttxQuestions on Cinder ?21:20
ttx#topic Nova status21:21
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ttxvishy: hi!21:21
ttxNova does not have any release candidate out yet :/21:21
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/folsom-rc121:21
ttx5 targeted bugs left21:22
ttxvishy: could we at least cut the release branch today, and backport the last targets ?21:22
vishyyes i think we can do that21:22
vishythere is some stuff merging now21:22
ttxok, let's do that just after meeting21:23
vishyso cut at the end of the day?21:23
ttxwe can do that in your late evening, yes21:23
ttxlet's have a quick look at those bugs21:23
ttxbug 105267021:24
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1052670 in nova "scheduler rpc API needs to be updated" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105267021:24
vishythe link was missed21:24
russellbthat patch was approved, on its way in21:24
vishyjust put it in21:24
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russellbmaybe i can beat jenkins and fix it ...21:24
vishyrussellb: maybe21:24
ttxjenkins can't be BEATEN21:24
ttxbug 104884221:24
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1048842 in nova "resource_tracker prevents oversubscription" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104884221:24
ttxThis one still looks under discussion ?21:25
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vishyttx: yes we are just discussing it. It is scary but we've also seriously regressed oversubscription21:25
vishyttx: that is the only one we are still debating21:25
ttxok, checking the others real quick...21:26
ttxbug 104909921:26
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1049099 in nova "XenAPI: cannot add/remove host to hypervisor pool" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104909921:26
vishyowner is squshing and making one modification. Should go right in once that is done21:26
vishyif he doesn't have a new patch up by the morning, one of core will grab it and do it21:26
ttxbug 105205221:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1052052 in nova "Quota reservation leaks when volume failed to schedule" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105205221:27
vishyrussellb is going to rebase that patch on top of the one he just made21:27
vishythen we will put it through21:27
russellbworking on that now21:27
ttxbug 105267021:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1052670 in nova "scheduler rpc API needs to be updated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105267021:27
russellbit's a PITA conflict21:27
vishyttx: that is the first one21:27
ttxah already done21:27
ttxand bug 105099721:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1050997 in nova "Some server attributes are not de-serialized from XML during create" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105099721:27
ttxshould be in anytime now21:28
vishyso the fixes for those are all being merged21:28
vishyexcept for block_device_mapping21:28
vishyi will make a separate bug and make it folsom-rc-potential21:28
ttxok, looks like this list is under control, except maybe 104884221:28
vishynot a release blocker imo21:28
ttx#action vishy, ttx to cut release branch at EOD, hopefully RC1 tomorrow21:29
ttxvishy: Anything else ?21:29
vishyttx: nope21:29
ttxQuestions on Nova ?21:29
ttx#topic Horizon status21:30
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gabrielhurleyttx: hi21:30
ttxgabrielhurley: hey21:30
ttxHorizon has RC1 out since last Wednesday. We have an RC2 cooking though:21:30
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/folsom-rc221:30
gabrielhurleyonly one new bug added: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/105080721:30
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1050807 in horizon "Translations should be updated" [Medium,In progress]21:30
ttxgabrielhurley: any progress on that translations merge ?21:30
gabrielhurleythat one is in progress. I'll have it done today21:31
gabrielhurleynew bug was https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105267721:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1052677 in horizon "Error when clicking on OpenStack logo" [Medium,In progress]21:31
gabrielhurleyand that one's merging currently21:31
ttxgabrielhurley: don't forget to propose backport to milestone-proposed21:31
gabrielhurleyI'll put up reviews for both to milestone-proposed this afternoon21:31
ttxwill review them first thing tomorrow morning21:31
ttx(just a sanity check)21:31
gabrielhurleyother than that things are still looking good.21:32
ttxyes, should have that RC2 soon enough21:32
ttxI see nothing on https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.tag=folsom-rc-potential21:32
ttxgabrielhurley: anything else ?21:32
gabrielhurleynope, not at the moment21:32
ttxQuestions for Horizon ?21:32
annegentledoes "Translations should be updated" also apply to openstack-manuals?21:33
annegentlemight be a clarkb question21:33
ttxannegentle: no, it's just the strings in code21:33
ttxwe have translations happening in Transifex but they were never merged into a releasable tarball21:34
ttx#topic Other Team reports21:34
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ttxannegentle: wanna do a doc update ?21:35
annegentle#info annegentle bringing in all the nova api samples updated in the nova code base to api.openstack.org21:35
* ttx is knee-deep in RC mud and hasn't had a chance to look up doc status21:35
annegentle#info look for a new design on docs.openstack.org in the next week, probably before release21:35
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ttxannegentle: how much work is needed before you consider that doc is in a release-ready state ?21:36
annegentleopenstack-manuals still has 30 high importance bugs, hyper-v info in review now, and we'll keep "master" open for folsom updates past the code release dates21:36
ttxok, that answers my question21:36
ttxannegentle: is progress fast enough so that it sounds doable to close those 30 high in one week ?21:37
annegentle110 bugs total, which is higher than I like to maintain, but also good that people are reporting doc bugs21:37
annegentlettx: no, the 30 high won't be closed in a week, so we'll keep the branch open, we did that for essex also21:37
annegentleI'll do a detailed mailing list post tomorrow for deep detail status21:38
ttxcool, thx21:38
ttxannegentle: anything else21:38
annegentle#help Please review doc patches at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-manuals,n,z21:38
annegentlethat's it for now21:38
ttxAny other team lead with a status report ?21:39
ttx#topic Open discussion21:40
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ttx#info TC nominations under way, closing EOD Wednesday !21:40
ttxAnything else, anyone ?21:40
heckjttx yeah21:41
annegentleKeep the Summit proposals coming!21:41
heckjquick question - is there a place to see all the folks currently nominated for TC?21:41
annegentlewe could start a wiki page?21:43
ttxheckj: nothing but the ML archive :)21:43
ttxWe could add to the elections wikipage21:43
ttx#link http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/TCElectionsFall201221:43
annegentlettx: sounds good, I'll edit based on what I saw on the ML?21:44
russellbIIRC so far it's annegentle, mikal, comstud, and me21:44
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ttxannegentle: yes21:45
annegentleon it21:45
ttxannegentle: only add confirmed people -- i.e. the list russell said21:45
ttxanything else ?21:45
russellbannegentle: thanks!21:45
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