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| sdague | anyone around for qa meeting? | 17:00 |
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| chunwang | I'm for qa meeting... | 17:00 |
| sdague | ok, lets give folks a little while, because it's pretty light in here today | 17:01 |
| mtreinish | sdague: I'm here | 17:01 |
| sdague | anyone else? | 17:01 |
| * maurosr | 17:01 | |
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| donaldngo | here | 17:02 |
| sdague | #startmeeting QA | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 20 17:02:52 2012 UTC. The chair is sdague. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: QA)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:02 |
| Ravikumar_hp | hi | 17:02 |
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| sdague | ok, so I know we're missing jay and davidkranz, so it's going to be a pretty open floor today | 17:03 |
| sdague | does anyone have topics for discussion to bring up? | 17:03 |
| davidkranz | sdague: I am here for the moment but may drop out at any time. | 17:03 |
| sdague | ok | 17:03 |
| Ravikumar_hp | one question: should we remove nova volume tests now | 17:04 |
| davidkranz | sdague: I think the bigggest issue is the full gate. | 17:04 |
| sdague | ok, lets talk about gate first | 17:04 |
| sdague | #topic Tempest Full Gate | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest Full Gate (Meeting topic: QA)" | 17:04 | |
| davidkranz | sdague: There is no evidence that the build ERROR problem remains. | 17:04 |
| sdague | so, I think that mtreinish and I got to the bottom of the flakey issue | 17:04 |
| davidkranz | sdague: That was good work. Thanks. | 17:05 |
| sdague | which turned out to be hitting the memory limits on the ci guests because we didn't delete synchonously | 17:05 |
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| sdague | davidkranz: yeh, it was fun to get to the bottom of that one, couldn't have done it without mtreinish | 17:05 |
| sdague | davidkranz: so our remaining issue is time to run, correct? | 17:05 |
| davidkranz | sdague: Right. Parallel is the only solution. | 17:06 |
| sdague | davidkranz: right, cyeoh is looking into doing a testr conversion like nova just did | 17:06 |
| davidkranz | sdague: Especially because new tests keep coming online, which is good but increases time. | 17:06 |
| chunwang | May I know how is parallel execution solution going on? | 17:06 |
| afazekas | we should trace the expensive resources like server and volume, when we try to schedule tests in parallel | 17:06 |
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| afazekas | We should try to reuse servicers on more cases | 17:07 |
| sdague | afazekas: testr does some of that automatically | 17:07 |
| davidkranz | afazekas: It is possible we could turn an almost full gate on by dropping most of the server tests until we have paralle. | 17:07 |
| sdague | chunwang: because of the holidays, it probably won't see much progress until Jan | 17:07 |
| Ravikumar_hp | davidkranz: yes. but include one of two servwer tests | 17:07 |
| chunwang | will a existing test framework or tools used for Tempest parallel exeution? | 17:07 |
| afazekas | We should add some annotation in order to mark the what resource a test case needs, and case should push back resources to the pool | 17:07 |
| davidkranz | Ravikumar_hp: At the summit we talked about marking some tests as "slow". | 17:08 |
| chunwang | Or there is a brand new framework from every begining? | 17:08 |
| sdague | chunwang: the intent is to use testr, which is just a different test runner | 17:08 |
| davidkranz | I've got to run now and wil be back in 15 min or so if you all are still around. | 17:08 |
| sdague | if you look at nova, it just converted to that last week | 17:08 |
| chunwang | sdague: ok, go it | 17:08 |
| sdague | some cleanups will have to be made, based on the nova experience | 17:09 |
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| sdague | it will make for overall cleaner tests | 17:09 |
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| afazekas | sdague:OK. I will check the 'testr' capabilites before I try to reinvent the wheel | 17:09 |
| chunwang | sdague: will the new scripts expected to be created in new format for testr from now on? | 17:10 |
| donaldngo | what happened to the exploration of testtools? | 17:10 |
| sdague | #link https://testrepository.readthedocs.org/en/latest/MANUAL.html | 17:10 |
| sdague | chunwang: the test format doesn't really change | 17:11 |
| chunwang | sdague:ok | 17:11 |
| sdague | donaldngo: there could still be alternative approaches, testr has some nice regression bisection and speedups that I think are good | 17:12 |
| Ravikumar_hp | sdague: who is doing POC for testr? | 17:12 |
| Ravikumar_hp | the material looks good and promising | 17:12 |
| sdague | cyeoh, he's on my team in australia | 17:12 |
| Ravikumar_hp | great | 17:12 |
| donaldngo | ill take a look a testr as well | 17:13 |
| sdague | yeh, lifeless, who is in #openstack-dev is the maintainer as well, so has been helping on conversions | 17:13 |
| sdague | and weird edge conditions | 17:13 |
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| sdague | mostly in nova we had that because tests caused side effects, and running in parallel exposed that | 17:14 |
| chunwang | sdague: what kind of side effects? | 17:15 |
| sdague | the last full gate comment I had, was it might be good to turn it on for devstack | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | sdague: is there anything blocking that right now? | 17:15 |
| sdague | as it's not flakey any more, and it will run a little more often then on tempest, as the devstack code stream is moving faster | 17:15 |
| sdague | not except asking dtroyer if he minds | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | sdague: heh, ok | 17:16 |
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| sdague | chunwang: like one test would change a global variable, which would effect how a test ran later | 17:16 |
| sdague | basically state leakage | 17:16 |
| sdague | ok, I think we're probably done on that topic | 17:16 |
| chunwang | sdague: then suppose it's will take some time to fix... | 17:17 |
| sdague | #topic Removing Nova Volume Tests | 17:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Removing Nova Volume Tests (Meeting topic: QA)" | 17:17 | |
| sdague | Ravikumar_hp: go | 17:17 |
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| Ravikumar_hp | sdague: looks like nova blueprint to remove nova volume and migrate to cinder is almost complete | 17:18 |
| Ravikumar_hp | shoud we remove nova volume tests | 17:18 |
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| sdague | Ravikumar_hp: sounds good to me | 17:18 |
| mtreinish | Ravikumar_hp: do you mean the volume extension tests? | 17:18 |
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| Ravikumar_hp | other wise tempest will break. yes volume extension tests | 17:18 |
| sdague | Ravikumar_hp: you willing to do the patch to do that? | 17:19 |
| sdague | we can just handle it in review | 17:19 |
| mtreinish | Ravikumar_hp: I'm pretty sure that won't cause any issues being in there (despite being slower) | 17:19 |
| Ravikumar_hp | yes . i will | 17:19 |
| sdague | ok, so we can make the decision on the review then, as we're missing a bunch of key folks here | 17:19 |
| mtreinish | it all gets piped to cinder eventually | 17:19 |
| sdague | #action Ravikumar_hp to propose review to remove nova volume tests | 17:20 |
| sdague | next topic? | 17:20 |
| Ravikumar_hp | mtreinish: Thanks . will check with Nova dev team and do accordingly | 17:20 |
| mtreinish | sdague: I can talk a bit about the coverage stuff | 17:20 |
| sdague | #topic Tempest Coverage | 17:21 |
| chunwang | I want to know the progress of quantum related test scripts. | 17:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest Coverage (Meeting topic: QA)" | 17:21 | |
| sdague | chunwang: we'll do that next | 17:21 |
| mtreinish | so the nova coverage extension got merged last week | 17:21 |
| chunwang | sdague: sure. | 17:21 |
| mtreinish | I've got a few cleanup patches in the queue before it's 100% | 17:21 |
| mtreinish | but after those go through I need to add support to devstack-gate and jenkins to do the runs with coverage enabled | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | the issue is going to be syncronizing those changes with tempest | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | because the way I wrote the tempest support breaks devstack gate without an exclude arg to nose | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | but it's almost ready, it's the final stretch | 17:23 |
| sdague | mtreinish: nice | 17:23 |
| rohitk | mtreinish: great work on the coverage extension! | 17:23 |
| mtreinish | rohitk: thanks | 17:24 |
| sdague | ok, anything else on coverage? | 17:24 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: not from me | 17:25 |
| sdague | #topic Quantum in Tempest | 17:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Quantum in Tempest (Meeting topic: QA)" | 17:25 | |
| sdague | ok, does anyone have an update there? | 17:25 |
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| sdague | going once... going twice ? | 17:26 |
| chunwang | I saw there are 2 blue print for quantum tests...but seems no update for both of them. | 17:26 |
| sdague | yeh, I don't know, and I don't know who's spear heading those | 17:26 |
| chunwang | and not sure whether both of the blue print will be adopted. | 17:26 |
| sdague | ok, so I'm going to suggest we move on | 17:27 |
| sdague | #topic Open Discussion | 17:27 |
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| sdague | ok, any other topics people want to bring up? | 17:27 |
| chunwang | I have another question is... | 17:27 |
| chunwang | whether there is any one creating some scripts to verify every compute node is working | 17:27 |
| sdague | chunwang: can you explain more? | 17:28 |
| chunwang | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/multinode-testing <-- I saw a blue print for multiple node, but not sure whether it's the same meaning as mine. | 17:28 |
| chunwang | for example | 17:29 |
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| sdague | chunwang: no, that's having the tempest runs run on multiple servers | 17:29 |
| sdague | instead of just a single machine devstack | 17:29 |
| sdague | so it would be more realistic | 17:29 |
| chunwang | there are 20 compute nodes in the deployed env, but some of them are not working | 17:29 |
| chunwang | when instances assigned to the unavailable nodes, it will be fail | 17:29 |
| sdague | chunwang: so that I think is really outside the role of tempest. It's testing interface functionality, it's not a health monitor | 17:30 |
| chunwang | yes, but I suppose tempest is for integration test | 17:30 |
| chunwang | who will care about the real deployment env test? | 17:30 |
| chunwang | not tempest? | 17:31 |
| sdague | chunwang: that I think is beyond the scope of this project. I could see that as another project that someone might want to create. | 17:31 |
| sdague | but that's just my opinion | 17:31 |
| afazekas | sdague: +1 | 17:32 |
| Ravikumar_hp | sdague: yes. I agree. +1 | 17:33 |
| sdague | ok, so any other topics for discussion | 17:33 |
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| sdague | going once... | 17:34 |
| sdague | going twice ... | 17:34 |
| sdague | ok, I'm going to call it | 17:34 |
| sdague | #endmeeting | 17:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 20 17:34:49 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2012/qa.2012-12-20-17.02.html | 17:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2012/qa.2012-12-20-17.02.txt | 17:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2012/qa.2012-12-20-17.02.log.html | 17:34 |
| sdague | thanks everyone | 17:35 |
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| lifeless | Ravikumar_hp: just ping me if you have any questions | 18:29 |
| lifeless | Ravikumar_hp: I'm in UTC+13 | 18:29 |
| Ravikumar_hp | lifeless: Thanks | 18:30 |
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| lifeless | Ravikumar_hp: Do you work at hp ? | 18:32 |
| Ravikumar_hp | yes . California | 18:32 |
| Ravikumar_hp | you are in NZ? | 18:33 |
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| lifeless | Ravikumar_hp: yah | 18:41 |
| lifeless | Ravikumar_hp: (also at hp, but my IRC nickname has about 20 years history.... it can stay as-is :)) | 18:42 |
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| sdague | <= here | 21:01 |
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| vishy | #startmeeting nova | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 20 21:02:08 2012 UTC. The chair is vishy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:02 | |
| comstud | aha | 21:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:02 |
| vishy | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/Nova | 21:03 |
| vishy | so not a lot on the agenda for today | 21:03 |
| vishy | #topic cells status | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cells status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:03 | |
| vishy | comstud: how is it looking? | 21:03 |
| comstud | i'm so close | 21:03 |
| comstud | new reviews should be up by EOD | 21:03 |
| comstud | i think i like how it's turned out.. we'll see if others agree | 21:04 |
| comstud | still fighting a cold at same time.. annoying. | 21:04 |
| vishy | ok hope to see reviews soon | 21:06 |
| vishy | #topic bare metal driver | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bare metal driver (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:06 | |
| vishy | devananda: ping | 21:06 |
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| vishy | ok apparently he is not around | 21:07 |
| vishy | #topic bugs | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:07 | |
| vishy | mikal: ping | 21:07 |
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| vishy | #link http://webnumbr.com/untouched-nova-bugs | 21:09 |
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| vishy | up to 40 | 21:09 |
| vishy | falling behind a bit | 21:09 |
| vishy | don't have mikal's triage numbers but it looks like we need some more help | 21:10 |
| sdague | I think the more critical bit is nova review queue is up to 145 right now | 21:10 |
| vishy | yes | 21:10 |
| vishy | we will have to focus on reviews after the holidays i think | 21:11 |
| vishy | #action nova-core to do lots of reviews | 21:11 |
| vishy | #topic next weeks meeting | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "next weeks meeting (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:11 | |
| vishy | I'm thinking of cancelling next weeks nova meeting | 21:11 |
| vishy | thoughts? | 21:11 |
| sdague | +1 | 21:12 |
| comstud | +1 | 21:12 |
| comstud | #agree | 21:12 |
| sdague | this is my last day in the office until the new year, I know we're loosing folks like flies at the moment for holidays :) | 21:12 |
| vishy | ok | 21:13 |
| vishy | #info nova-meeting next week is cancelled | 21:13 |
| vishy | #action vishy to send out email letting people know | 21:14 |
| sdague | vishy: the baremetal stuff is coming along, a few patches made their way in today | 21:14 |
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| sdague | I've been going through reviews on those | 21:14 |
| vishy | #topic open discussion | 21:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:15 | |
| vishy | anything else? | 21:15 |
| sdague | have an awesome holiday? | 21:15 |
| devananda | vishy: pong | 21:16 |
| vishy | devananda: I was just trying to get an update on baremetal stuff | 21:16 |
| vishy | but I don't think there is anyone around so... | 21:17 |
| vishy | :) | 21:17 |
| devananda | ah. right! /me didn't notice the time | 21:17 |
| vishy | #info Happy Holidays! | 21:17 |
| vishy | #endmeeting nova | 21:17 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 20 21:17:47 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2012/nova.2012-12-20-21.02.html | 21:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2012/nova.2012-12-20-21.02.txt | 21:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2012/nova.2012-12-20-21.02.log.html | 21:17 |
| vishy | thanks guys | 21:17 |
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| sdague | thanks vipul|away | 21:22 |
| sdague | thanks vishy | 21:22 |
| mikal | Doh, I thought the meeting was in 40 minutes for some reason | 21:23 |
| mikal | Sorry | 21:23 |
| * mikal runs triage stats now and will post to the nvoa channel when they're ready | 21:23 | |
| sdague | mikal: oh, just read the minutes, we assigned you all the bugs | 21:24 |
| mikal | Yay! | 21:25 |
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| mikal | I'll try and get some more reviews done today | 21:25 |
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