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| jaypipes | QA meeting in 15 mins... | 16:46 |
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| sdague | jaypipes: is there an agenda page for the meeting? | 16:54 |
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| jaypipes | sdague: no, sorry, holidays and all, didn't have a chance to write one up. | 16:55 |
| jaypipes | sdague: will be going through reviews, then blueprints, then discussion. | 16:55 |
| jaypipes | sdague: want to add a specific item>? | 16:55 |
| zyluo | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/add-basic-quantum-system-tests | 16:56 |
| zyluo | Hua Zhang can't work on this anymore | 16:56 |
| sdague | postgresql in the gate, and tempest time growth | 16:56 |
| zyluo | jaypipes, can you assign zyluo to this bp? | 16:56 |
| jaypipes | zyluo: welcome :) | 16:56 |
| jaypipes | zyluo: done. | 16:57 |
| zyluo | jaypipes, thx! | 16:57 |
| jaypipes | sdague: gotcha. | 16:57 |
| afazekas | I can't read the https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/add-basic-quantum-system-tests/+edit "Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page or the information in this page is not shared with you. " | 16:58 |
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| jaypipes | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 3 17:00:27 2013 UTC. The chair is jaypipes. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
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| zyluo | hi | 17:01 |
| jaypipes | Hi all, welcome to 2013's first QA meeting :) | 17:01 |
| jaypipes | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/QAMeeting | 17:01 |
| jaypipes | I put a quick agenda in link ^^ | 17:01 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz_: around? | 17:01 |
| mlavalle | hi | 17:01 |
| jaypipes | mlavalle: welcome :) | 17:01 |
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| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: morning. | 17:01 |
| davidkranz_ | jaypipes: Here. Been kind of busy this past week+. | 17:01 |
| Ravikumar_hp | hi | 17:02 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz_: no worries, we all have I think, with holidays and all.. | 17:02 |
| sdague | <- here | 17:02 |
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| sdague | glorious holidays :) | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | I'm here too | 17:02 |
| jaypipes | mtreinish: hi! :) | 17:02 |
| jaypipes | and afazekas is here as well.. let's get started. | 17:02 |
| afazekas | hi! | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | #topic Reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest,n,z | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest,n,z (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:03 | |
| jaypipes | Why don't we tackel the quantum ones first. | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | is mnewby around? | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18507/ | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | mnewby: the above needs a quick rebase... other than that, ready to go. | 17:04 |
| afazekas | Just needs a rebase | 17:04 |
| jaypipes | right. | 17:04 |
| jaypipes | #action send mnewby a quick email about his rebase | 17:04 |
| jaypipes | Next Quantum one is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9507/ | 17:05 |
| jaypipes | zyluo: that's yours, right? | 17:05 |
| zyluo | jaypipes, yeah I'm working on it | 17:05 |
| jaypipes | zyluo: http://logs.openstack.org/9507/6/check/gate-tempest-devstack-vm/22729/console.html.gz | 17:05 |
| zyluo | could you -2 on this? | 17:05 |
| jaypipes | zyluo: that's a simple one to fix... | 17:05 |
| jaypipes | zyluo: s/nova/compute | 17:05 |
| zyluo | I'll start my own patch..yeah | 17:06 |
| jaypipes | zyluo: we underwent a naming change a little while back and I think you just need to update nova to compute... | 17:06 |
| jaypipes | zyluo: easiest way is to do this: | 17:06 |
| zyluo | jaypipes, will do | 17:06 |
| jaypipes | git review -d 9507 | 17:06 |
| jaypipes | zyluo: ^^ will check out the original branch in gerrit locally. make changes, then git commit -a --amend && git review | 17:07 |
| zyluo | jaypipes, thanks! will try | 17:07 |
| jaypipes | np :) | 17:07 |
| jaypipes | zyluo: feel free to ping me later if you run into questions/issues | 17:07 |
| zyluo | got it | 17:07 |
| jaypipes | kk, next review. | 17:08 |
| jaypipes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18324/ | 17:08 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: ping | 17:08 |
| Ravikumar_hp | jaypipes: new patch is submitted . will get it reviewed | 17:08 |
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| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: you want to check in with Rajalakshmi and see where she is on this one? | 17:08 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: gotcha, cool. thx! | 17:08 |
| jaypipes | sdague: next patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18085/ | 17:09 |
| sdague | it's simple, people should just +2 it :) | 17:10 |
| jaypipes | sdague: I have some reservations about whether this will work properly but I suppose the patch doesn't hurt anything... | 17:10 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: You had commented that this patch was not sufficient to shut the stuff up? | 17:10 |
| sdague | yeh, it's helpful for local debug at least | 17:10 |
| jaypipes | sdague: I've found that setting -s on nosetests really doesn't do anything to clean up the log mess... | 17:10 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: right, exactly. | 17:10 |
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| sdague | this was actually about letting things not shut up for fixing | 17:10 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz, sdague: what I *think* needs to happen is that in setup_package() in tempest/tests/__init__.py, an initial call to logging.basicConfig() needs to occur. | 17:11 |
| afazekas | I have no idea why is -s good, but it will not harm anybody in this form. | 17:11 |
| sdague | we needed it to get to the bottom of the flakey behavior | 17:11 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: no, I'm saying that -s doesn't actually capture the log output properly... | 17:11 |
| sdague | jaypipes: right, I wasn't actually trying to fix logging | 17:11 |
| jaypipes | sdague: ok, then I suppose I'm not quite understanding thsi patch! :) | 17:12 |
| sdague | I was trying to let me use prints to debug. | 17:12 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: I think -s just forces the output when it happens. | 17:12 |
| davidkranz | Instead of capturing it and printing it at the end. | 17:12 |
| afazekas | -s is for printing to the stdout, I assume it is for "print" debugger technics | 17:12 |
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| sdague | yes, and lets it out for tests that pass | 17:12 |
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| sdague | because otherwise we only get output for tests that fail | 17:12 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: I haven't seen any difference between running with and without -s... but if you say so, oK :) | 17:12 |
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| davidkranz | jaypipes: I have seen differences and I think I suggested this to sdague | 17:13 |
| jaypipes | sdague: ah, ok. I still see output for non-failures (output from glanceclient, for instance) even when not using -s | 17:13 |
| jaypipes | sdague: so I think there's two separate issues... | 17:13 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: You see it without -s, but not until the dashed line stuff at the end. | 17:13 |
| jaypipes | sdague: and this perhaps fixes the first -- which is to always output all stdout messages to the screen even if tests succeed. | 17:14 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: gotcha. | 17:14 |
| jaypipes | sdague: ok, davidkranz, want to +1 Approve it? | 17:14 |
| jaypipes | sdague: sorry I delayed this one so long... | 17:14 |
| davidkranz | Yes. I have been waiting for your comments. | 17:14 |
| sdague | no worries | 17:14 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: Done. | 17:15 |
| jaypipes | ok, off to the tarlac pit it goes then. | 17:15 |
| sdague | heh | 17:16 |
| jaypipes | alright, I'm going to skip the three oslo ones and do those last... | 17:16 |
| jaypipes | next review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18775/ | 17:16 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: this is in your neck of the woods I think. | 17:16 |
| Ravikumar_hp | jaypipes: new patch is submitted. under review | 17:16 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: ah, so this one makes the other review irrelevant? | 17:17 |
| Ravikumar_hp | will take care of | 17:17 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18775/ make https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18324/ abandoned? | 17:17 |
| Ravikumar_hp | flavor spec . new patch will be submitted tomorrow | 17:18 |
| Ravikumar_hp | 18324 is not abandoned. | 17:18 |
| Ravikumar_hp | will run the test as admin user | 17:19 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: OK, understood. | 17:19 |
| Ravikumar_hp | negative test as normal user | 17:19 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: please mark the ones you are waiting on as Work in Progress. | 17:19 |
| jaypipes | just to update their status.. | 17:19 |
| Ravikumar_hp | sure | 17:19 |
| jaypipes | ty | 17:20 |
| jaypipes | alrighty, next one is Swift: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18794/ | 17:20 |
| Ravikumar_hp | jaypipes: Just got review feedback from afazekas | 17:20 |
| Ravikumar_hp | need to check and incorporate | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: right, looks like good feedback too... | 17:21 |
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| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: shall we try to get a swift-core member to review? | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: prolly a good idea :) | 17:21 |
| sdague | jaypipes: with mtreinish's changes going in, everything is going to need a rebase I think | 17:21 |
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| sdague | because tempest.openstack had to change | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | sdague: understood. | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | I will delay reaching out to swift-core on that one until the rebase is done, then. | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | #action jaypipes to reach out to swift-core on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18794/ after rebase is done | 17:22 |
| jaypipes | Next review is Jaroslav's: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18030/ | 17:22 |
| sdague | I'll go and run recheck on everything that will need to rebase after so that it will fail early | 17:22 |
| jaypipes | jhenner: ping | 17:22 |
| jaypipes | sdague: thx | 17:22 |
| afazekas | Can you split the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18794 to two patches ? | 17:23 |
| afazekas | It has test cases without questions | 17:23 |
| jhenner | jaypipes: pong | 17:24 |
| jaypipes | I just did a recheck on jhenner's review... looks like he fixed the pep8 violation | 17:24 |
| jaypipes | jhenner: ohai :) | 17:24 |
| jaypipes | jhenner: no worries, all good to go on your review. sorry to bother! | 17:24 |
| jhenner | jaypipes: ok | 17:25 |
| jaypipes | alright, mtreinish and sdague, the remaining 3 reviews are all related to oslo (openstack-common) | 17:25 |
| jaypipes | shall we discuss them as a group? | 17:25 |
| mtreinish | jaypipes: sure | 17:25 |
| sdague | jaypipes: I think mtreinish's are in the gate right now | 17:25 |
| sdague | and monty's is obsolete | 17:25 |
| jaypipes | mordred: you too, since https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17063/ is your baby. | 17:25 |
| jaypipes | ahhh.... | 17:25 |
| mordred | uhoh | 17:25 |
| mtreinish | mordred's patch has stuff with version which I didn't add in mine | 17:26 |
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| jaypipes | ok, so who needs to rebase? ;) | 17:26 |
| mtreinish | mordred does | 17:26 |
| jaypipes | first come first serve? | 17:26 |
| jaypipes | hehe, ok, mordred.. | 17:26 |
| mordred | I'm fine deferring | 17:26 |
| sdague | mordred: the others should land in an hour or so | 17:26 |
| mordred | great | 17:26 |
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| jaypipes | mordred: looks like you'll need to rebase to add in the versions stuff | 17:26 |
| sdague | whenever full gate gets through | 17:26 |
| jaypipes | mordred: danke | 17:26 |
| * mordred looks around and says "testr?", then ducks back into his hole | 17:27 | |
| mtreinish | also mordred you copied version.py manually I used oslo's scripts to sync | 17:27 |
| jaypipes | sdague: ok, so the other two are heading through the gate... so I suppose it's best to just wait the hour or so until that finishes and catch you online after? | 17:27 |
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| sdague | jaypipes: yeh, any time after they land modred can rebase | 17:27 |
| jaypipes | cool. | 17:28 |
| jaypipes | ok then, anybody have any review-related stuff before we move on to bugs and blueprints? | 17:28 |
| sdague | mordred: cyeoh is looking at testr, he's on holiday now though. | 17:28 |
| jaypipes | ok, moving on... | 17:29 |
| jaypipes | #topic Bugs -- and cleaning up our mess | 17:29 |
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| jaypipes | #link http://bit.ly/w4i5td | 17:29 |
| afazekas | I think we need test runner which is able to consider server and volume resurce usage when scheduling a new test item | 17:29 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: yes, that has already been agreed upon ;) | 17:29 |
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| jaypipes | afazekas: we hate nosetests, frankly... | 17:30 |
| mordred | nosetests die die die | 17:30 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: and a few people are actively looking at testr as a replacement | 17:30 |
| mordred | testr for life! | 17:30 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: but of course, easier said than done ;) | 17:30 |
| afazekas | jaypipes: I have some ideas for test runner :) | 17:30 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: please do talk with mordred, sdague and others about testr and your ideas! | 17:30 |
| jaypipes | Alright, back to the #topic.... | 17:31 |
| afazekas | tempest needs some refactoring in order to make the resource uage followable | 17:31 |
| mordred | afazekas: lifeless is actually the person you want - but loop sdague and I in | 17:31 |
| jaypipes | We have a very large number of open bugs: http://bit.ly/w4i5td | 17:31 |
| mtreinish | jaypipes: only 70... | 17:31 |
| jaypipes | mtreinish: :P | 17:31 |
| jaypipes | mtreinish: 10 for every active QA person! ;) | 17:32 |
| sdague | :) | 17:32 |
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| jaypipes | all jokes aside, we're heading towards the G2 milestone release tomorrow | 17:32 |
| afazekas | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1080971 this looks easy | 17:32 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1080971 in tempest "Tenants for test are not deleted in teardown function." [High,Confirmed] | 17:32 |
| jaypipes | and I think today and tomorrow would be a good time to do some bug cleanup. | 17:32 |
| Ravikumar_hp | out of 70 some are task items (test development) | 17:32 |
| sdague | jaypipes: that sounds reasonable, I'll try to help out there. | 17:32 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: hold up one second. | 17:33 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: yes, indeed. | 17:33 |
| sdague | I guess that raises another question, would it make sense to have a dedicated -qa irc channel to help coordinate. It's definitely nice to have that for nova. | 17:34 |
| jaypipes | if y'all don't mind, I'm going to send out an email to davidkranz, sdague, and Ravikumar_hp with lists of bugs to investigate, get the current status on, and close out if appropriate. | 17:34 |
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| jaypipes | sdague: sure, no problem with that... set it up and ML it. | 17:34 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: OK | 17:34 |
| sdague | jaypipes: ok, will do | 17:34 |
| jaypipes | the four of us can either do the investigation ourselves or further dole out bugs to other QAers who woudl like to help. | 17:35 |
| jaypipes | alright with you all? | 17:35 |
| sdague | sounds fine | 17:35 |
| davidkranz | k | 17:35 |
| mtreinish | jaypipes: sure, sounds good | 17:35 |
| Ravikumar_hp | ok | 17:35 |
| jaypipes | I'll put em all on an etherpad so we can collaborate and cross off. | 17:35 |
| jaypipes | #action jaypipes to list open bugs on etherpad and divide between Ravikumar_hp, davidkranz and sdague | 17:36 |
| jaypipes | alrighty, onto blueprints | 17:36 |
| jaypipes | #topic Blueprints | 17:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:36 | |
| * afazekas I can't kill bugs before sunday :(, I have other things to do.. | 17:36 | |
| jaypipes | #link http://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest | 17:36 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: no problem at all. | 17:36 |
| jaypipes | I'd like to clean up the blueprints as much as possible, but I will take responsibillity for that, since there's only 26 of them. | 17:37 |
| jaypipes | I will coordinate with the blueprint proposers and see what's still relevant. | 17:38 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp, I know the two blueprints you asked me to look at. Will do those shortly troday. | 17:38 |
| afazekas | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/boto-tests-attach-detach-volume the big test case does it | 17:38 |
| Ravikumar_hp | jaypipes: ok | 17:38 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: I will follow up with you about the boto ones, even though you didn't add those blueprints ;) | 17:39 |
| afazekas | jaypipes: ok | 17:39 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: there are a number of blueprints (ex: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/add-xml-support) that I think can be marked Implemented.... will work with you on those. | 17:39 |
| Ravikumar_hp | jaypipes: ok | 17:40 |
| jaypipes | OK, I want to keep us within our hour, so I'm gonna move on now to sdague's topics... | 17:40 |
| jaypipes | #topic Tempest Runtime Growth. | 17:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest Runtime Growth. (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:40 | |
| jaypipes | sdague: dance, partner. | 17:40 |
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| afazekas | jaypipes: Hopefully next week, I can send patch to devstack for image (s3-materails) prepration | 17:40 |
| sdague | yeh, so I had to bump the full gate to a 120 minute timeout | 17:40 |
| jaypipes | excellent. | 17:40 |
| sdague | because we were regularly getting timeouts a 90 minutes | 17:40 |
| sdague | which is long | 17:40 |
| jaypipes | crazy long. | 17:41 |
| sdague | I'm going to start looking at long tests in there to just figure out if we can do better prior to a testr change | 17:41 |
| sdague | by being a little smart | 17:41 |
| mordred | testr for life! | 17:41 |
| sdague | mordred: yeh, you're going to need some much bigger guests in ci when we get it though :) | 17:41 |
| sdague | those puny 4Gb memory ones aren't going to cut it | 17:41 |
| mordred | sdague: you are not the only one who wants those... | 17:42 |
| jaypipes | sdague: for example... for the XML vs. JSON list XXX tests, we should be able to do a single setup, creating the resources, then test the list operations with XML and JSON, then teardwon. | 17:42 |
| sdague | jaypipes: probably | 17:42 |
| mordred | sdague: tripleo/baremetal testing wants larger ones too | 17:42 |
| sdague | honestly, it's going to just take some time to look and be smart about it | 17:42 |
| jaypipes | sdague: well, right now, it's taking 2X as long to do the list tests, because we setup resources twice, once for XML, once for JSON, when we only need to set them up once. | 17:42 |
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| sdague | ok, fair, though in some cases the test is the resource setup | 17:43 |
| jaypipes | sdague: since the list tests aren't testing creation... they test list operations, so there's no need to double the setup. | 17:43 |
| jaypipes | sdague: sure, but no the list tests :) | 17:43 |
| sdague | right, those didn't seem to be the big hitters on time | 17:43 |
| jaypipes | of which there are plenty ;P | 17:43 |
| afazekas | We need to use resource pools | 17:43 |
| jaypipes | sdague: agreed, but everything counts :) | 17:43 |
| sdague | anyway, I think first step is to make it a little simpler to get timing out | 17:44 |
| jaypipes | sdague: could you elaborate on that please? | 17:44 |
| sdague | jaypipes: longest test runs | 17:44 |
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| jaypipes | sdague: are you talking about the time each test takes, or the timing out of a build/launch? | 17:45 |
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| sdague | honestly, I wouldn't mind annotating the tests per the project that they are testing, and have some idea about how much time we're spending on nova vs. cinder vs. swift | 17:45 |
| jaypipes | k | 17:45 |
| jaypipes | sdague: one of the issues with nosetests (among many others) is that timings don't count setUpClass or tearDownClass, and many times, that's where all the cost is! | 17:46 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: There's a blueprint on this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/tempest-audit | 17:46 |
| sdague | jaypipes: right, but if we instrumented tempest ourselves, we could get those numbers | 17:46 |
| jaypipes | sdague: completely agreed. | 17:46 |
| sdague | mtreinish: yes, right | 17:47 |
| davidkranz | In the medium term I think we need to separate integration tests from api tests so we can only run the api rests on every build if the relevant project. | 17:47 |
| davidkranz | ^^ tests | 17:47 |
| uvirtbot` | davidkranz: Error: "^" is not a valid command. | 17:47 |
| sdague | anyway, I think the point I wanted to bring up is: when reviewing tests, be careful on how much runtime they are adding right now | 17:47 |
| sdague | for instance, the first round of swift tests had an object expires test with a sleep 30 in it | 17:47 |
| jaypipes | no disagreement from me on that one! | 17:47 |
| sdague | I think we can move on topic wise, hopefully something more interesting to say by next week | 17:48 |
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| Ravikumar_hp | sdague: object expire is not gated test | 17:49 |
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| sdague | Ravikumar_hp: it's a tempest full test | 17:49 |
| sdague | so it's part of that 90 minutes | 17:49 |
| jaypipes | #topic PostgreSQL in gate. | 17:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PostgreSQL in gate. (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:50 | |
| sdague | ok, so I've got a review in to turn on non voting postgresql runs on tempest and devstack gates | 17:50 |
| sdague | because I had to fix issues for each of them yesterday :) | 17:50 |
| afazekas | Is PostgreSQL supported by heat or quantum now? | 17:51 |
| sdague | my intent, unless there are objections, is to eventually have them be voting | 17:51 |
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| sdague | afazekas: no idea on heat, but it's not core, so I'm not sure that matters | 17:51 |
| zyluo | not used in Quantum. | 17:51 |
| sdague | zyluo: does quantum have a database? | 17:52 |
| zyluo | yes it does | 17:52 |
| jaypipes | zyluo: does Quantum use SQLAlchemy? | 17:52 |
| sdague | my understand was core projects in openstack needed to be db agnostic | 17:52 |
| jaypipes | zyluo: if it does, it supports PostgreSQL :) | 17:52 |
| zyluo | jaypipes, yes SQLA | 17:52 |
| sdague | jaypipes: well, possibly :) | 17:52 |
| sdague | my experience is there are mysqlisms that need to be watched for | 17:53 |
| afazekas | jaypipes: yes. IMHO installer related qustion | 17:53 |
| zyluo | oh, yeah it should | 17:53 |
| jaypipes | zyluo: I think you mean that Quantum's gate hasn't supported PG so far :) | 17:53 |
| zyluo | yes, that's what I meant | 17:53 |
| sdague | so what's in tempest full today passes on pg | 17:53 |
| jaypipes | :) | 17:53 |
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| sdague | had we had this turned on previously, we would have caught a cinder mysqlism that was turned up in a tempest test | 17:54 |
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| jaypipes | sdague: so are you trying to get a quorum on turning on PG in the main project gate? | 17:54 |
| sdague | so, anyway, expect to see the pg runs showing up (non voting), and please flag things that fail on it | 17:54 |
| jaypipes | kk | 17:54 |
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| sdague | well, I'm actually hoping their is no objection to the non-voting | 17:55 |
| jaypipes | no objection from me. | 17:55 |
| sdague | and want to prep people for the idea of turning it voting some time in the future | 17:55 |
| jaypipes | anbody have objections? | 17:55 |
| sdague | that would be some sort of general agreement needed before we do that | 17:55 |
| mtreinish | jaypipes: none from me | 17:55 |
| jaypipes | alrighty.. | 17:56 |
| jaypipes | unless anybody has anything else to bring up, we're close to our hour... | 17:56 |
| jaypipes | #topic Open discussion | 17:56 |
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| afazekas | Do you mind if I change the resources (server,volume) to "objects" and give them methods including delete ? | 17:58 |
| afazekas | I want to count and trace the usage | 17:58 |
| sdague | I created #openstack-qa, people should feel free to join | 17:59 |
| sdague | afazekas: non from me, having accounting in there would be great | 17:59 |
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| afazekas | ok | 18:00 |
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| jaypipes | afazekas: fine by me. | 18:02 |
| jaypipes | #endmeeting | 18:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 3 18:02:07 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2013/qa.2013-01-03-17.00.html | 18:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2013/qa.2013-01-03-17.00.txt | 18:02 |
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| russellb | howdy nova folks | 21:01 |
| dansmith | hola | 21:01 |
| ndipanov | heyhey | 21:01 |
| russellb | #startmeeting nova | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 3 21:01:27 2013 UTC. The chair is russellb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:01 |
| russellb | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/Nova | 21:01 |
| russellb | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:02 |
| russellb | the only thing i had in mind for today was to take a look at grizzly-2 status | 21:02 |
| russellb | scheduld for a week from today | 21:02 |
| russellb | all features should be merged by Tuesday, Jan 8th to make grizzly-2 | 21:02 |
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| dansmith | well, as much as I'd like, I'm sure that no-db-compute-manager won't quite make it | 21:03 |
| russellb | blueprint status shows us pretty far behind the goal | 21:03 |
| dansmith | close, but not all merged by then | 21:03 |
| russellb | dansmith: ok, if you're sure let's bump it | 21:03 |
| russellb | i think our goal right now should be to make it realistic | 21:03 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:03 |
| devananda | baremetal is very close right now (even though it's not on that list) | 21:03 |
| russellb | figure out what needs a push to get over the line, and push stuff out that isn't going to make it | 21:03 |
| russellb | devananda: it's not *looks* | 21:04 |
| mikal | xenapi config drive is close, I just need to get my hardware setup so I can test it | 21:04 |
| russellb | what is it on grizzly-3? | 21:04 |
| russellb | ok let's go one by one here ... | 21:04 |
| sdague | devananda: it is on the list | 21:04 |
| russellb | from the top! | 21:04 |
| sdague | unless General Baremetal is different | 21:04 |
| russellb | xenapi-volume-drivers | 21:04 |
| russellb | is Mate Lakat here? on IRC? | 21:04 |
| russellb | some refactoring patches went in, but not the core stuff it seems like | 21:04 |
| russellb | no clue on status | 21:04 |
| devananda | russellb: ah, sorry. it _is_ there, under the words "bare-metal". my search for "baremetal" didn't find it :) | 21:05 |
| russellb | devananda: k, cool | 21:05 |
| russellb | #note need an update on the status of xenapi-volume-drivers blueprint | 21:05 |
| russellb | next ... no-db-compute-manager | 21:05 |
| russellb | dansmith: i went looking for your patches from yesterday, they all merged? | 21:05 |
| dansmith | russellb: uh, no | 21:06 |
| russellb | :/ | 21:06 |
| vishy | hi | 21:06 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/no-db-compute-manager,n,z | 21:06 |
| russellb | then i got distracted by cells | 21:06 |
| russellb | #chair vishy | 21:06 |
| openstack | Current chairs: russellb vishy | 21:06 |
| dansmith | and: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18849/ | 21:06 |
| russellb | dansmith: oops, ok, will review asap then. | 21:06 |
| russellb | dansmith: do those patches complete the blueprint? | 21:06 |
| dansmith | thanks | 21:06 |
| dansmith | no, but after those, only 12 calls remain to be moved/refactored | 21:07 |
| vishy | (sorry I'm late) | 21:07 |
| russellb | vishy: it's ok, we'll keep you ;) | 21:07 |
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| russellb | vishy: i was just thinking we'd go through grizzly-2 blueprints | 21:07 |
| russellb | dansmith: want to keep pushing and see if we can pull it off? | 21:07 |
| russellb | move it at last minute if needed ... | 21:08 |
| dansmith | russellb: by tuesday? I don't think it's realistic, but I can certainly try | 21:08 |
| russellb | k, no worries | 21:08 |
| russellb | you've made awesome progress | 21:08 |
| dansmith | I mean, there's no penalty for moving at the last minute, so why not? :) | 21:08 |
| russellb | right. | 21:08 |
| russellb | vishy: you know anything about xenapi-volume-drivers? | 21:08 |
| russellb | it's marked as high priority, but i don't know the status other than seeing some refactoring patches come through | 21:09 |
| russellb | ok, on to cells ... | 21:10 |
| russellb | i saw that comstud updated his patches yesterday, i'm in the middle of reviewing the first one | 21:10 |
| russellb | my gut feeling is that it's unlikely to make grizzly-2 | 21:11 |
| comstud | whoops | 21:11 |
| mikal | I just pinged comstud to let him know he's being discussed | 21:11 |
| mikal | Heh | 21:11 |
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| vishy | nope | 21:11 |
| comstud | on a call | 21:11 |
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| vishy | russellb: I thought they were done | 21:11 |
| comstud | i'm done | 21:11 |
| comstud | i need reviews | 21:11 |
| comstud | i had a test to add for rpc driver for 'add main cells code' | 21:11 |
| comstud | but that's it | 21:11 |
| russellb | comstud: *nod* will have review up by end of day | 21:12 |
| mikal | I can take a look at that main code review today too | 21:12 |
| russellb | vishy: last patch on the xenapi-volume-drivers blueprint expired back in early november | 21:12 |
| * dansmith takes a screenshot of comstud saying cells are "done" | 21:12 | |
| comstud | lol | 21:12 |
| russellb | seems dead | 21:12 |
| russellb | i'm not sure what to do with blueprints that die like that ... | 21:13 |
| vishy | russellb: it didn't seem like that one was key | 21:13 |
| russellb | yeah agreed | 21:13 |
| vishy | russellb: I thought it was just a refactor / cleanup | 21:13 |
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| russellb | so, drop priority and untarget? | 21:13 |
| comstud | dansmith: note that I said that "i'm done" not that "cells is done" | 21:14 |
| comstud | ;) | 21:14 |
| russellb | comstud: i took it as you meant you were done with the phone call | 21:14 |
| dansmith | comstud: heh :) | 21:14 |
| comstud | oh | 21:14 |
| comstud | haha | 21:14 |
| comstud | i'm multitasking | 21:14 |
| rainya | teehee :) | 21:15 |
| comstud | there's a test failure for one of the later branches | 21:15 |
| comstud | and I have a fix for that to push up along with rpc driver tests | 21:15 |
| mikal | comstud: I also have a small rpc sanitization change because of cells which will hopefully land in oslo today. | 21:15 |
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| russellb | comstud: well thanks for updating. i'll hold off on comments until i post the review so we don't dominate this meeting | 21:16 |
| comstud | yes, plz gimme feedback | 21:16 |
| russellb | will do by end of day | 21:16 |
| comstud | ty | 21:16 |
| russellb | next bp ... nova-v2-api-audit, assigned to sdague | 21:17 |
| sdague | yeh, I think we can call that done on friday, maurosr was finishing off a few things | 21:17 |
| russellb | the audit part sounded very close the other day | 21:17 |
| maurosr | russellb: in fact I'm on this one | 21:17 |
| russellb | awesome | 21:17 |
| maurosr | as we talked earlier today, I'm working to get all the things that fit as api-v2 fix and will not break any api done until tomorrow, and the other part of that work will be addressed on api-v3 bp which is target to grizzly-3 (api-v3 complements v2 audit work) | 21:17 |
| russellb | should it be reassigned? | 21:17 |
| sdague | russellb: probably | 21:17 |
| russellb | ok, launchpad username? | 21:17 |
| maurosr | russellb: maurosr | 21:18 |
| russellb | k done | 21:18 |
| russellb | alexpilotti: around? | 21:18 |
| alexpilotti | russellb: sure | 21:18 |
| russellb | you have a high priority grizzly-2 targeted blueprint for hyper-v testing improvements | 21:18 |
| russellb | any progress there? | 21:18 |
| alexpilotti | russellb: yep | 21:18 |
| alexpilotti | russellb: the good news is that the deaded pickled files are gone | 21:19 |
| alexpilotti | ahem, *dreaded | 21:19 |
| * russellb waits for the bad news | 21:19 | |
| alexpilotti | russellb: no bad news :-) | 21:19 |
| russellb | oh, yay. | 21:19 |
| alexpilotti | I'm fixing up the latest tests now | 21:19 |
| russellb | so what's the timeline for code going up | 21:19 |
| alexpilotti | I'd like to discuss with you the new design, maybe in -dev or -nova | 21:20 |
| alexpilotti | russellb: tonight | 21:20 |
| russellb | ok sure, let's talk in -nova after meeting with whoever is interested | 21:20 |
| alexpilotti | the idea is that now instead of generating pickle files we emit python code | 21:20 |
| alexpilotti | this should make everybody happy IMO | 21:21 |
| russellb | may need to reserve judgement until there's a patch up :) | 21:21 |
| russellb | think you could post a WIP? | 21:21 |
| russellb | that would make it easier to talk about | 21:21 |
| alexpilotti | that's why I wanted to send the code for review before starting the discussion | 21:21 |
| russellb | ok | 21:21 |
| russellb | well ping when ready to discuss then | 21:22 |
| alexpilotti | russellb: sure | 21:22 |
| russellb | alaski: ping | 21:22 |
| russellb | next blueprint is instance-actions | 21:22 |
| alaski | russellb: pong | 21:22 |
| russellb | looks like it's all marked WIP right now | 21:22 |
| russellb | alaski: just looking for a general update on instance-actions | 21:23 |
| alaski | started a decently large rework based on belliott's comments. Then got distracted by work and holidays. SHould have t new reviews up in the next few days | 21:23 |
| russellb | ok, so should be bumped to grizzly-3 then | 21:23 |
| russellb | (deadline for merging is Tuesday) | 21:24 |
| alaski | yes. Definitely wo't all be in by then | 21:24 |
| russellb | kthx | 21:24 |
| russellb | very cool feature though, looking forward to it | 21:24 |
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| russellb | next bp is version-rpc-messages, assigned to me | 21:25 |
| russellb | the main oslo patch went in today | 21:25 |
| alaski | seems a lot of people are, trying to make sure it doesn't disapoint :) | 21:25 |
| russellb | there's another patch for enabling the rpc message envelope for notifications | 21:25 |
| russellb | so once that gets in, i'll get it synced to nova, should be fine for grizzly-2 | 21:25 |
| russellb | next up is aggregate-based-availability-zones | 21:26 |
| russellb | jog0: around? | 21:26 |
| jog0 | yup | 21:26 |
| russellb | looks like you have it done and just need reviews last i checked | 21:26 |
| russellb | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/aggregate-based-availability-zones,n,z | 21:27 |
| jog0 | thats correct. This changes some default behaviors so extra reviews would be apprecated | 21:27 |
| russellb | it's got a +2 from vishy | 21:27 |
| russellb | anyone want to volunteer to do another review on this in the next couple days? | 21:27 |
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| russellb | or will someone volunteer, even if you don't want to? :) | 21:28 |
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| dripton | russellb, I'll look at it tomorrow morning | 21:28 |
| russellb | dripton: cool, thanks | 21:28 |
| maurosr | i'm not core, but I can take a look too | 21:29 |
| russellb | cool, well having you guys review and leave a +1 gives others more confidence to push it through, so it's very helpful | 21:30 |
| mikal | Its a good way to end up as core too | 21:30 |
| russellb | (and lots of that is required to eventually get on -core IMO) | 21:30 |
| russellb | mikal: that :) | 21:30 |
| russellb | jog0: feel free to pester as we get closer to tuesday to get it over the hump | 21:30 |
| russellb | onward | 21:30 |
| jog0 | russellb: kk | 21:30 |
| russellb | so, that was all the high priority blueprints, on to the medium ones | 21:30 |
| russellb | db-unique-keys, assigned to boris pavlovic | 21:31 |
| russellb | he here? | 21:31 |
| russellb | dripton devananda jog0 ... any of you know status? | 21:31 |
| russellb | it's just marked as Started | 21:31 |
| dripton | Boris told me he was working on it before the holidays. | 21:31 |
| dripton | It might conflict with my db-archiving bp so we need to coordinate a bit | 21:31 |
| russellb | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/db-unique-keys,n,z | 21:32 |
| devananda | i think he's been circling the problem, so to speak, with other (related) reviews lately | 21:32 |
| russellb | k, so seems likely to get bumped | 21:33 |
| devananda | yea | 21:33 |
| russellb | think it should just be moved now? | 21:33 |
| russellb | if stuff isn't in review, or very close to it, seems unlikely to be merged by Tuesday | 21:33 |
| devananda | yep, let's bump it | 21:34 |
| dripton | makes sense to move it. He can ask to move it back. | 21:34 |
| russellb | k done | 21:34 |
| russellb | next, scope-config-opts, by markmc | 21:34 |
| russellb | he's not here, but he has pushed a bunch of patches through on this | 21:34 |
| russellb | i'll try to ping him tomorrow on it | 21:35 |
| russellb | next, entrypoints-plugins | 21:36 |
| russellb | i haven't been watching this closely | 21:36 |
| sdague | that looks pretty stalled | 21:36 |
| russellb | mordred: think entrypoints-plugins for nova has a chance for nova grizzly-2 (by Tuesday) ? | 21:36 |
| sdague | the review that mordred put out there hasn't been updated in a while, and it also needs some test magic to not make the unit tests take 3x the duration :) | 21:37 |
| russellb | ah ok, so that part hasn't been resolved yet, i wasn't sure | 21:37 |
| russellb | yeah, let's bump it ... | 21:38 |
| russellb | poor grizzly-2 is getting a shocking dose of reality | 21:39 |
| russellb | well, that's it for medium blueprints. | 21:39 |
| russellb | the rest are low ... 5 of which say "needs code review" | 21:39 |
| russellb | so those are good candidates for looking at and seeing if we can get them in quickly | 21:39 |
| russellb | if you look and it seems stalled, ping me and we can update the blueprint status accordingly | 21:39 |
| russellb | alexpilotti: you've got a low blueprint for hyper-v resize | 21:40 |
| russellb | what's the status on that | 21:40 |
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| alexpilotti | russellb: WIP, can we move it to G-3? | 21:41 |
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| russellb | sure can, thank you | 21:41 |
| alexpilotti | russellb: tx! | 21:41 |
| * russellb assumes the one still marked "Not started' can be bumped too ... | 21:41 | |
| russellb | is Lance Bragstad here? | 21:42 |
| russellb | i'm looking at powervm-compute-enhancements | 21:42 |
| russellb | the blueprint seems overly generic | 21:43 |
| russellb | i'm not sure how you'd call it done | 21:43 |
| russellb | sdague: dansmith: is this something you guys could help chase and put some scope on? | 21:43 |
| dansmith | russellb: he's coming | 21:43 |
| russellb | cool thanks | 21:44 |
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| dansmith | russellb: yeah, but if he can show up here soon, it'd be good to get a quick read on it | 21:44 |
| russellb | lbragstad: hello! | 21:44 |
| russellb | lbragstad: we're looking at the powervm-compute-enhancements blueprint | 21:44 |
| russellb | it's targeted at grizzly-2, which is next week | 21:44 |
| lbragstad | russellb: hey, sorry I missed earlier | 21:44 |
| russellb | so i just wanted to check in on the status and see what you felt like is left to do before it can be marked as completed | 21:44 |
| lbragstad | russellb: ok | 21:44 |
| russellb | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/powervm-compute-enhancements | 21:45 |
| mordred | russellb, sdague: I should re-look - I believe we put the magic into stevedore that we need for the test speed issue | 21:46 |
| mordred | but bumping is probably a good idea | 21:46 |
| lbragstad | russellb: doing some checking right now | 21:46 |
| dansmith | russellb: oh, G-2, knowing the little I do about what they're planning, I'm sure that G-2 is no longer a reasonable target | 21:46 |
| russellb | mordred: cool, thanks | 21:46 |
| dansmith | I think the only question is whether G-3 even is | 21:46 |
| dansmith | lbragstad: would you agree? | 21:46 |
| russellb | well the way the blueprint is worded, it's open ended | 21:47 |
| russellb | it just seems to be a placeholder for whatever gets done in grizzly | 21:47 |
| russellb | would be nice to reword it with some specific scope in mind, for whatever is realistic for grizzly | 21:47 |
| russellb | and then any additional plans can come as later blueprints | 21:47 |
| russellb | make sense? | 21:47 |
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| dansmith | russellb: yeah, well, maybe they could seal it off and call it something reasonable for G-2, but I think it was supposed to hold the place for some more changes that don't seem to be done yet | 21:47 |
| russellb | ok | 21:47 |
| dansmith | lbragstad: can you rename the blueprint to something specific, and put words in there to make it well-defined? | 21:48 |
| russellb | that would be great | 21:48 |
| lbragstad | dansmith: sure that sounds good | 21:48 |
| russellb | and then let me know whether whatever it is changed to is complete in grizzly-2 or needs to be bumped to grizzly-3 | 21:48 |
| lbragstad | something more specific for grizzly-2? | 21:48 |
| dansmith | lbragstad: and with that, tell us (soon) if it still makes sense for G-2 or if it should be moved to G-3 | 21:48 |
| dansmith | lbragstad: I'm guessing that even the snapshot stuff you've got in the fire right now might be at risk for being merged by tuesday, right? | 21:49 |
| lbragstad | dansmith: I just uploaded a new patch set for that | 21:49 |
| dansmith | russellb: we can move on and I can continue offline with lbragstad if you want | 21:49 |
| dansmith | lbragstad: right. | 21:49 |
| russellb | great, just ping me with any needed blueprint updates once you're ready | 21:49 |
| russellb | thanks guys! | 21:49 |
| dansmith | okie | 21:50 |
| russellb | devananda: do I see your name on this openvz-driver blueprint? | 21:50 |
| lbragstad | russellb: thanks for the heads up! | 21:50 |
| russellb | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/openvz-driver | 21:50 |
| devananda | russellb: at one time i was working on it, yes | 21:50 |
| russellb | lbragstad: np | 21:50 |
| russellb | devananda: ok cool ... any idea where it's at? definitely doesn't seem to have a chance at grizzly-2 | 21:50 |
| devananda | russellb: i moved away from openvz shortly before grizzly summit, and haven't heard about any progress on it since :( | 21:51 |
| russellb | ok ... | 21:51 |
| russellb | well ... i'm just going to pull it out of grizzly completely then | 21:51 |
| russellb | and if something magically shows up, neat | 21:51 |
| devananda | last i heard, hub_cap and dsalinas were still using it internally | 21:51 |
| russellb | well, i'll move it to grizzly-3 for now | 21:52 |
| russellb | we'll see ... | 21:52 |
| devananda | k | 21:52 |
| russellb | thanks | 21:52 |
| russellb | https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:53 |
| russellb | in a bit better shape now | 21:53 |
| russellb | everything not implemented is either ready for review, or very close to it | 21:53 |
| russellb | any other blueprint discussion? otherwise we'll use the last few minutes for open discussion | 21:54 |
| devananda | baremetal? :) | 21:54 |
| russellb | ah sure | 21:54 |
| russellb | i skipped over it since it was set as ready to be reviewed, but definitely worth bringing up anyway | 21:54 |
| devananda | there's basically 3 components of it (and 3 reivews) that need to be approved before that BP can be marked as done | 21:54 |
| devananda | in as much as those will provide a working framework for additional baremetal features to be implemented on | 21:55 |
| devananda | that's all :) | 21:55 |
| russellb | cool ... been getting reviews? | 21:56 |
| * russellb can't claim to have helped | 21:56 | |
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| devananda | mostly from sdague and mikal, yes. lots of patches merged earlier this week | 21:57 |
| vishy | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/get-password could use reviews | 21:57 |
| vishy | my old branch was approved but it had no api sample tests | 21:57 |
| vishy | i added them and in the process realized i needed one other change which is in a new patch | 21:57 |
| russellb | vishy: should the bp be updated to needs code review? | 21:59 |
| vishy | just did | 22:00 |
| vishy | :) | 22:00 |
| russellb | nice | 22:00 |
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| russellb | well i guess we're about out of time ... | 22:00 |
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| russellb | lots of reviews needed, so let's get back to it! | 22:00 |
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| mikal | Review all the things! | 22:01 |
| russellb | yes! | 22:01 |
| russellb | thanks everyone | 22:01 |
| russellb | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
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| vishy | thx russellb! | 22:03 |
| russellb | np :) | 22:03 |
| russellb | mikal: see agenda for next week ... http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/Nova | 22:03 |
| russellb | vishy: bp list is cleaned up a little bit ... still lots of work to do | 22:03 |
| russellb | not blueprint maintenance, like code work :) | 22:04 |
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| mikal | russellb: heh | 22:04 |
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