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| jgriffith | #start meeting cinder | 16:00 |
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| jgriffith | every time :) | 16:00 |
| jgriffith | #startmeeting cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 27 16:00:36 2013 UTC. The chair is jgriffith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| thingee | o/ | 16:00 |
| jgriffith | Hey everyone, sorry I literally just walked in | 16:00 |
| xyang | hi | 16:00 |
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| guitarzan | literally! | 16:01 |
| guitarzan | (morning folks) | 16:01 |
| avishay | hi all | 16:01 |
| rushiagr | hi! | 16:01 |
| smulcahy | hello | 16:01 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: yes, literally :) | 16:01 |
| jgriffith | Alright, let's get started | 16:01 |
| jgriffith | First things first | 16:01 |
| jgriffith | #topic reviews | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:02 | |
| jgriffith | Don't forget, just because the push for G3 is done we should still be seeing bug fixes and such coming in | 16:02 |
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| jgriffith | enough said there | 16:02 |
| jgriffith | #topic bugs | 16:02 |
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| jgriffith | Our list is growing rapidly https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder | 16:03 |
| jgriffith | I started triage and target last night and should get back to it today | 16:03 |
| avishay | s/Our/NetApp's/ :P | 16:03 |
| jgriffith | rushiagr: Looks like you've got a lot on your plate | 16:03 |
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| smulcahy | I'm tackling the ones I opened yesterday | 16:03 |
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| rushiagr | jgriffith: I see. Already started swallowing pieces in :) | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | smulcahy: awesome, can you assign them to yourself if you haven't already? | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | :) | 16:04 |
| smulcahy | yup, did so already | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | rushiagr: That's the down side of actually testing your code :) | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | smulcahy: excellent | 16:04 |
| bswartz | hi | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | eharney: around? | 16:05 |
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| eharney | yep | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: morning | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | eharney: any updates on the rtslib issue? | 16:05 |
| eharney | i think i saw an update related to the pkg-info part of it | 16:05 |
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| rushiagr | jgriffith: agree. many drivers == increased chances of bugs | 16:06 |
| eharney | but i haven't gotten too far into it yet | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | eharney: Ok, so what do you think about removing rtslib from pip-requires for now? | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | eharney: well more accurately "for now" would be for Grizzly | 16:07 |
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| jgriffith | eharney: We can wait before being drastic | 16:07 |
| bswartz | rtslib is needed by the 3par driver, right? | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: no | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: LIO driver | 16:07 |
| bswartz | oh I'm mixed up | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | or "iSCSI target" | 16:07 |
| eharney | i can look into it and see... that was kind of my original intent a while back | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: you and I both | 16:07 |
| eharney | let me see what this pkg fix brought in and where things stand now | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | eharney: cool | 16:08 |
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| jgriffith | winston-d_: any luck on stevedoore and errors/exceptions? | 16:09 |
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| jgriffith | Fort thos who don't know: | 16:10 |
| winston-d_ | jgriffith: i'm working on a patch for OSLO | 16:10 |
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| jgriffith | winston-d_: great, did you open an OSLO bug on that? | 16:10 |
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| jgriffith | sorry.. to keep buggin ya :) | 16:10 |
| avishay | jgriffith: for those who don't know: ... | 16:10 |
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| avishay | ? | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | avishay: Yeah... trying to find the bug now :) | 16:11 |
| winston-d_ | jgriffith: not yet. | 16:11 |
| avishay | jgriffith: OK, thought you forgot :) | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | So there are cases where the filter scheduler will say like "Unable to find filter-scheduler, capacity-weigher" etc etc | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | Turns out if there's package conflicts in the pip requires or issues with loading them | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | SteveDoore (which loades them, and the filter scheduler settings) pukes | 16:12 |
| kmartin | this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1131322 | 16:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1131322 in cinder "Cinder service not logging exceptions from stevedore library" [High,Confirmed] | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | but it doesn't use the Cinder log | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | kmartin: is my hero | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | :) | 16:12 |
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| jgriffith | anyway, so far it's only seen on > Precise | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | So Quantal and Raring set-ups | 16:13 |
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| avishay | Got it | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | So final thing on bugs from me... | 16:14 |
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| jgriffith | If you have bugs that you're working on PLEASE be sure to update the bug and assign it to yourself | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | Also if you want to talk to me about targetting ping me on IRC | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | If you have a bug you want targetted for RC1 and I haven't done it by the end of the day I likely missed it so hit me up | 16:15 |
| thingee | jgriffith: is the force delete volume even with snapshots associated worth it? | 16:15 |
| thingee | the one gabriel made | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | Or target it yourself | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | thingee: link? | 16:15 |
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| jgriffith | thingee: I'm not inclined to allow delete of volume with snapshot still/yet | 16:15 |
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| thingee | jgriffith: launchpad is not loading for me. well he wouldn't be able to make the experience better on horizon at this point anyways | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: we can look at it if it's really a problem for folks, but it is a bigger change than I'd like to put in at this point | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | thingee: booo Luanchpad | 16:16 |
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| jgriffith | thingee: true-dat | 16:16 |
| guitarzan | yeah, the "at this point" totally makes sense | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | thingee: I'd rather see jdurgin's boot from image patch go into horizon before anything else anyway | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | IMO it's a bug that horizon doesn't have the cinder functionality in it | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | guitarzan: k... cool | 16:17 |
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| jgriffith | Ok... anybody else with input/updates regarding bugs? | 16:17 |
| avishay | Horizon is missing lots of Cinder stuff | 16:17 |
| thingee | jgriffith: +1 | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | avishay: Yes | 16:17 |
| avishay | jgriffith: Can we discuss this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1131553 | 16:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1131553 in cinder "SolidFire driver hasn't been updated to use self.configuration" [High,In progress] | 16:18 |
| thingee | jgriffith: jdurgin had the patch done, but no one to review it | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | avishay: sure | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | avishay: what would you like to discuss? | 16:18 |
| avishay | jgriffith: where did this self.configuration thing come from and how did i miss it and what do i need to do :) | 16:19 |
| rushiagr1 | avishay: with multi backend | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | avishay: multi-back-end and filter scheduler | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | avishay: don't feel bad, we all missed it :( | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | avishay: well not all of us | 16:19 |
| winston-d_ | avishay: multi-back-end | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | avishay: So hub_cap updated most of the drivers for folks, but a few us were left behind | 16:19 |
| avishay | jgriffith: OK, I'll take another look at it | 16:20 |
| * hub_cap is sorry | 16:20 | |
| jgriffith | avishay: so it's not a tough patch, but if you don't have time I plan to have a general bug for all the drivers | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | and I'll update it for you if you don't get to it | 16:20 |
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| jgriffith | Just won't be until end of next week | 16:20 |
| avishay | jgriffith: OK no problem, I'll do it | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | avishay: cool... let me know if you have any questions on it | 16:21 |
| avishay | Just wanted some background info | 16:21 |
| avishay | Thanks | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | avishay: it's pretty straight forward | 16:21 |
| kmartin | We are getting ready to submitted a patch for the 3PAR drivers today | 16:21 |
| avishay | jgriffith: yea i saw | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | kmartin: cool, I think that'll get everybody caught up, but I'll double check Nexenta and Zadara next week | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | anybody else? | 16:22 |
| smulcahy | in terms of submitting bug fixes, jenkins was blowing up on a pyparsing issue earlier - has that been fixed now or is it still in a non-functional state? | 16:22 |
| kmartin | Do we still need to reference the FLAG = flags.FLAGS or can all that go away? | 16:22 |
| xyang__ | jgriffith: I'll be submitting a patch for my driver soon as well | 16:22 |
| smulcahy | and when its fixed, can I retrigger a review to jenkins or do I need to submit a patch to cause that to happen? | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | smulcahy: Yeah, I just started looking at that but like I said I got a late start this morning :( | 16:22 |
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| smulcahy | jgriffith: np, just wonder. there seemed to be a discussion on openstack-dev mailing lists but didn't fully understand what the solution was from it. | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | smulcahy: Should be able to recheck, I'll scrub those when I get updated on the CI status this morning | 16:23 |
| avishay | smulcahy: just leave a comment with "recheck" | 16:23 |
| rushiagr1 | I see the latest jenkins build managed to pass | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | smulcahy: avishay yes, but don't forget to assign bug to the recheck please | 16:23 |
| avishay | jgriffith: yep | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | alrighty... | 16:24 |
| smulcahy | jgriffith: "assign bug to the recheck" - don't fully grok that, is it documented in the wiki or can someone explain further? | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | smulcahy: Yeah... so under the jenkins fail entry | 16:24 |
| avishay | smulcahy: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGithub#Test_Failures | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | smulcahy: There's a link to a wiki with instructions | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | teamwork rocks! | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | avishay: thx :) | 16:25 |
| avishay | jgriffith: google rocks :P | 16:25 |
| smulcahy | awesome! ;) | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | Oh... one other thing | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | On bugs, make sure you use tags where appropriate | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | ie Driver, SolidFire etc etc | 16:26 |
| jgriffith | Also if you think it's backport potential mark that as well, although most of what i'm seeing so far is "new" code | 16:26 |
| jgriffith | Ok, any final discussions WRT bugs? | 16:26 |
| xyang__ | jgriffith: do we have to open a bug for every submit now? | 16:26 |
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| jgriffith | xyang__: technically yes, you should | 16:27 |
| jgriffith | xyang__: but what did you have in mind? | 16:27 |
| jgriffith | xyang__: So for things like updating the Flags usage I don't really care personally | 16:27 |
| xyang__ | jgriffith: It is a fix for my driver. has to do with attach | 16:27 |
| jgriffith | xyang__: yes, you should log a bub please | 16:28 |
| xyang__ | jgriffith: sure, will do | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | k | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | #topic open discussion | 16:29 |
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| jgriffith | So for those that don't know | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | There's been funny stuff going on in the gates | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | One of the issues I've been looking at is "services not starting" | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | So when you look at that bug list for jenkins jobs you have to be pretty thorough | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | You'll notice a lot of things get marked as "cinder fails to create volume" etc etc | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | But if you dig in you'll notice in reality it might be things like compute instance never started | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | cinder-vol service never started | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | etc etc | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | My point is just if you do log a bug against a jenkins recheck try to be thorough if you can | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | nuff said | 16:31 |
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| jgriffith | Also keep in mind DOCS! | 16:31 |
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| jgriffith | We need to make sure Grizzly goes out in better shape than Folsom did in terms of Docs | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | I know a lot of folks are already working on this but just wanted to mention it again | 16:32 |
| avishay | jgriffith: any administration stuff about the summit? suggesting topics, etc.? | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | and with that I'm done, anybody else have anything? | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | avishay: submit your topics/suggestions to the website | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | avishay: Once we get our time slots we'll start going through them and prioritizing based on time constraints | 16:33 |
| avishay | jgriffith: where on the website? | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | avishay: http://summit.openstack.org/ | 16:34 |
| avishay | not summit presentations, right? | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | avishay: Yeah, that's confusing... the link I just posted is "design summit" session proposals | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | Not the general "summit sesssions" for the foofy business folks and such :) | 16:34 |
| avishay | jgriffith: :) | 16:34 |
| avishay | so we can move those topics that were on the cinder wiki to here | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | yeppers | 16:35 |
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| jgriffith | anyone else? | 16:36 |
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| avishay | (BTW looks like I will be there) | 16:36 |
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| jgriffith | avishay: I had assumed, didn't know there was a chance you wouldn't | 16:37 |
| kmartin | avishay: :) | 16:37 |
| avishay | jgriffith: it's far and expensive - had to get approval | 16:37 |
| jgriffith | avishay: well glad you'll be there | 16:37 |
| avishay | thanks, looking forward to meeting everyone | 16:37 |
| jgriffith | ditto | 16:38 |
| winston-d_ | hopefully i can get my approval as well. | 16:38 |
| jgriffith | winston-d_: you better! | 16:39 |
| jgriffith | winston-d_: If not we'll take up a collection :) | 16:39 |
| winston-d_ | :) | 16:39 |
| jgriffith | winston-d_: let us know if we need to harass your boss! | 16:39 |
| winston-d_ | haha, sure. thx! | 16:39 |
| jgriffith | Ok, anybody else? | 16:40 |
| * jgriffith is thinking we might finish early for the FIRST TIME EVER | 16:40 | |
| jgriffith | at least the first time while he's been chairing :) | 16:40 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: +1 | 16:40 |
| kmartin | speaking of the summit...is Stefano going to send out free registration codes to G-3 technical contributors | 16:40 |
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| bswartz | kmartin: that happened weeks ago | 16:41 |
| xyang__ | kmartin: I've got a free pass | 16:41 |
| jgriffith | kmartin: bswartz There was supposed to be another round after G3 | 16:41 |
| avishay | I got mine a long time ago | 16:41 |
| xyang__ | kmartin: for being a contributor for the 1st time | 16:41 |
| jgriffith | kmartin: There was something on the ML about that | 16:41 |
| jgriffith | kmartin: I'd send an email IIWY | 16:41 |
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| kmartin | jgriffith: OK will do..I submitted late in G-3 but happen received mine yet | 16:42 |
| jgriffith | kmartin: Yeah, I seem to recall there was a plan for that | 16:42 |
| xyang__ | jgriffith: do they usually give out free pass to every contributors? | 16:42 |
| jgriffith | xyang__: yep | 16:42 |
| xyang__ | jgriffith: cool! | 16:42 |
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| jgriffith | alright, bswartz and I would like to finish early at least once! | 16:43 |
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| avishay | +1 for early | 16:43 |
| jgriffith | #openstack-cinder of course | 16:43 |
| jgriffith | #endmeeting cinder | 16:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 27 16:43:32 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2013/cinder.2013-02-27-16.00.html | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2013/cinder.2013-02-27-16.00.txt | 16:43 |
| avishay | bye all! | 16:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2013/cinder.2013-02-27-16.00.log.html | 16:43 |
| jgriffith | later guys | 16:43 |
| jgriffith | THANKS!!! | 16:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | one sec all | 17:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting XenAPI | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 27 17:03:21 2013 UTC. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'xenapi' | 17:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic blueprints | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "blueprints (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 17:03 | |
| johnthetubaguy | Hi all | 17:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | lets go through the usual agenda, usual wiki page | 17:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | no one has added any pressing issues, anything major from anyone before we start? | 17:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, sounds like it could be a quick one then... | 17:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | so any blueprints to discuss | 17:05 |
| matelakat | not from my side. | 17:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | maybe this is a good point to bring up the etherpad for the summit session | 17:05 |
| matelakat | Yes, that sounds good. | 17:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/HavanaXenAPIRoadmap | 17:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | ideas welcome on there | 17:06 |
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| matelakat | I will put the postponed blueprint there | 17:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | GPU? | 17:06 |
| matelakat | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/xenapi-volume-drivers | 17:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh right | 17:07 |
| matelakat | But GPU seems to be another good candidate | 17:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes | 17:07 |
| matelakat | I will add GPU as well. | 17:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | depends if anyone has the time to do it really | 17:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 17:07 |
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| matelakat | Added those two things. | 17:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks for those | 17:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, just added image portability | 17:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | always comes up, but we are getting closer I think | 17:09 |
| matelakat | Yes, that was my action from last meeting. | 17:09 |
| matelakat | So its 1:1 :-) | 17:09 |
| matelakat | Oh, I might missunderstood image portability | 17:09 |
| matelakat | What does it mean exactly? | 17:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | images across many hypervisors and many openstack clouds | 17:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | cloud-init etc | 17:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | getting tools install and agent installed using cloudinit, maybe | 17:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | that kind of thing | 17:10 |
| matelakat | So it is about the guest -level code. | 17:10 |
| matelakat | Not related to image formats at all. | 17:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | maybe both | 17:11 |
| matelakat | Let's separate them. | 17:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | in the full picture sense | 17:11 |
| matelakat | I will make the correction. | 17:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, we need the whole picture really | 17:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | its a bit more complicated than just those two | 17:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | separately | 17:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | can't think why though now… hmm... | 17:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Docs | 17:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Docs (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 17:12 | |
| matelakat | So basically, let's just start with the goal: images across many hypervisors and many openstack clouds | 17:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | matelakat: sure | 17:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | matelakat: how are the docs coming along? | 17:12 |
| matelakat | I haven't touched any docs this week. | 17:13 |
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| matelakat | I was busy this week making a local gitmirror. | 17:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | Ok, you got a timeframe for that? | 17:14 |
| matelakat | For the docs you mean? | 17:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes | 17:14 |
| matelakat | Not yet. | 17:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | it looks like I can maybe help along the CentOS install of OpenStack on XenAPI docs | 17:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | probably next week before I start of that one though | 17:14 |
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| matelakat | How much time do we have for the docs? | 17:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action johnthetubaguy to look at CentOS install docs | 17:15 |
| matelakat | Approximately? | 17:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | matelakat: good question, not sure | 17:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | sooner for the translaters benifit I think | 17:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, any more docs things | 17:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | ? | 17:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | ask anne gentle for a date | 17:17 |
| matelakat | okay | 17:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #QA and Bugs | 17:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic QA and Bugs | 17:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "QA and Bugs (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 17:17 | |
| johnthetubaguy | any updates on this? | 17:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action johnthetubaguy needs to ask Rackspace QA about external facing tests | 17:18 |
| matelakat | not really from my side. | 17:18 |
| matelakat | Anyone else with some interesting bugs? | 17:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | do you have time to re-test all the big features post nova-conductor? | 17:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | like live-migration with block migration | 17:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | I know armando found some gremlins there | 17:19 |
| matelakat | live migration tests are failing at the moment, since 22 | 17:20 |
| matelakat | I meant live block migration. | 17:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | is there a bug on LP for that? | 17:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | was armando covering that one? | 17:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | I will have coffee with him tomorrow, I will check | 17:21 |
| matelakat | I did not have the time to look at that. | 17:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action johnthetubaguy needs to check with armandomi to see about live-migration with block | 17:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK | 17:22 |
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| * johnthetubaguy feeling silly that mate is sat opposite him and no one else wants to talk to me | 17:23 | |
| johnthetubaguy | ok, so I think that is all for QA | 17:23 |
| matelakat | sure. | 17:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 17:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 17:23 | |
| matelakat | Let's dig out armando's bugreport. | 17:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, if you can find it, make sure its tagged | 17:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | that would be awesome | 17:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | anything else from people? | 17:25 |
| matelakat | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1118491 | 17:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1118491 in nova "check_can_live_migrate_source does not return data (xenapi)" [High,Fix released] | 17:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, yes | 17:25 |
| matelakat | But that's fixed. | 17:25 |
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| matelakat | So I guess we have another issue. | 17:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | bit its still now working I take it? | 17:25 |
| matelakat | What time do you see armando tomorrow? | 17:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | not sure yet, we didn't decide | 17:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | depends when I get a bookcase delivered | 17:26 |
| matelakat | Okay, I will look at the logs, and drop a mail / file a bug. | 17:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, thanks | 17:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | bug sounds good | 17:26 |
| matelakat | question | 17:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | fire away | 17:26 |
| matelakat | just a sec, searching for the link.... | 17:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | ok | 17:27 |
| matelakat | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1131291 | 17:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1131291 in cinder "XenAPINFS: Volume always uploaded as vhd/ovf" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 17:28 |
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| matelakat | Do I need to do anything to get it included in G? | 17:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | where did you push it, trunk? | 17:29 |
| matelakat | y | 17:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think there will be an rc cadidate tag at some point | 17:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | not read through the email lists today, but some time after the rc1 branches are made | 17:29 |
| matelakat | I see the Milestone filled in for nova bugs, but not for this cinder one | 17:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | but always fix in trunk first, then backport if required | 17:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I would ping jgriffith to see what he has to say | 17:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | any more questions? | 17:30 |
| matelakat | I will contact with jgriffith. | 17:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 17:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || Development in #openstack-dev || Help in #openstack" | 17:31 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 27 17:31:15 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2013/xenapi.2013-02-27-17.03.html | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2013/xenapi.2013-02-27-17.03.txt | 17:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2013/xenapi.2013-02-27-17.03.log.html | 17:31 |
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| sdake_ | #startmeeting heat | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 27 20:00:16 2013 UTC. The chair is sdake_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 20:00 |
| sdake_ | #topic rollcall | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:00 | |
| sdake_ | hidey ho | 20:00 |
| shadower | o/ | 20:00 |
| stevebaker | o/ | 20:00 |
| jpeeler | o/ | 20:01 |
| zaneb | yo | 20:01 |
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| asalkeld | hey | 20:01 |
| sdake_ | looks like we have enough to get started | 20:01 |
| sdake_ | #topic g3-rc1 bug review | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "g3-rc1 bug review (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:02 | |
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| sdake_ | I'd like to go through the unfixed bugs for rc1 and see if there are any that can be ditched | 20:02 |
| sdake_ | we have approximately two weeks left (March 14th) | 20:02 |
| sdake_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GrizzlyReleaseSchedule | 20:02 |
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| sdake_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1128486 | 20:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1128486 in heat/grizzly "creating a stack without a required param, fails correctly but leaves the stack created" [High,New] | 20:03 |
| sdake_ | asalkeld that look ok for a march 14th deadline? | 20:04 |
| asalkeld | looking | 20:04 |
| asalkeld | yea that's 2 weeks | 20:05 |
| sdake_ | ya | 20:05 |
| asalkeld | heaps of time | 20:05 |
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| sdake_ | coupled with your other work tho :) | 20:05 |
| sdake_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1133381 | 20:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1133381 in quantum "Upgrade to Quantum client 2.2" [High,In progress] | 20:05 |
| asalkeld | I'll drop, so someone else _could_ take it | 20:05 |
| sdake_ | only concerned about shardy - he has alot on his plate atm | 20:06 |
| sdake_ | shardy you mind dropping that bug on someone else? | 20:06 |
| stevebaker | I could take 1133381 | 20:06 |
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| sdake_ | sounds good | 20:07 |
| sdake_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1131303 | 20:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1131303 in heat "Rollback deletes all events by default" [Medium,Confirmed] | 20:07 |
| sdake_ | guess shardy didn't make it back from dinner ;) | 20:07 |
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| stevebaker | shardy isn't actually here right now | 20:07 |
| sdake_ | yes i know | 20:07 |
| sdake_ | i'll have to sync up with him on 1131303 later but seems like we want to fix that one | 20:08 |
| sdake_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1130898 | 20:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1130898 in heat/grizzly "Should add 'break's in for loops in instance.py" [Low,Confirmed] | 20:08 |
| sdake_ | this is a two liner fix | 20:08 |
| sdake_ | pretty sure ian can handle it ;) | 20:08 |
| sdake_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1072949 | 20:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1072949 in heat/grizzly "Reset DB migrations" [Critical,Triaged] | 20:08 |
| sdake_ | the original bug indicates there won't be an upgrade path from heat v7 to heat grizzly | 20:09 |
| sdake_ | zaneb this look ok for 14th? | 20:09 |
| zaneb | should be, I'm about to actually start on it :) | 20:09 |
| sdake_ | nice | 20:09 |
| sdake_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1134258 | 20:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1134258 in heat "Stack updates ignore changes in dynamic attributes" [High,Triaged] | 20:10 |
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| sdake_ | hey shardy | 20:11 |
| sdake_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1134258 | 20:11 |
| shardy | sdake_: sorry I'm late, got stuck in traffic | 20:11 |
| sdake_ | our deadline for rc1 is march 14th | 20:11 |
| sdake_ | no sweat | 20:11 |
| sdake_ | that bug look ok for march 14th? | 20:11 |
| sdake_ | coupled with the numerous other things your working on ? :) | 20:11 |
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| shardy | sdake_: Yep, I think they should all be OK | 20:12 |
| sdake_ | ok | 20:12 |
| sdake_ | other purpose of this topic is to deep six bugs we are not going to fix | 20:12 |
| shardy | most fairly simple, the LoadBalancer stuff is most complex, and that's nearly fixed now | 20:12 |
| sdake_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1096017 | 20:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1096017 in heat/grizzly "AutoScalingGroup missing VPCZoneIdentifier property" [Medium,Triaged] | 20:13 |
| sdake_ | jpeeler didn't you fix this? | 20:13 |
| jpeeler | no, i'm looking at it now | 20:13 |
| sdake_ | ok | 20:13 |
| sdake_ | 14th look ok? | 20:13 |
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| jpeeler | yes | 20:13 |
| sdake_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1097430 | 20:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1097430 in heat/grizzly "heat: doesn't use EC2 tags API" [Medium,Triaged] | 20:14 |
| shardy | I don't think the tags stuff got merged into Nova did it? | 20:14 |
| sdake_ | so reading bug, looks like that is in progress | 20:15 |
| stevebaker | that should really be a blueprint | 20:15 |
| sdake_ | #info https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1097430 should likely be a blueprint and moved to Havana | 20:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1097430 in heat/grizzly "heat: doesn't use EC2 tags API" [Medium,Triaged] | 20:15 |
| sdake_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1131283 | 20:16 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1131283 in heat "--disable-rollback doesn't work for heat-boto" [Medium,Triaged] | 20:16 |
| shardy | I had a look at that, should be simple to fix I think | 20:16 |
| sdake_ | shardy that looking ok for 14th? | 20:16 |
| sdake_ | ok | 20:16 |
| sdake_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1131759 | 20:16 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1131759 in heat "Cannot query stack by ARN via ReST API/heatclient" [Medium,Triaged] | 20:16 |
| sdake_ | this is not assigned | 20:16 |
| sdake_ | any victims | 20:17 |
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| shardy | That should be fairly simple too, just needs an identifier lookup like in the CFN API | 20:17 |
| stevebaker | I'm not sure the ReST API should support ARNs. zaneb? | 20:17 |
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| shardy | stevebaker: If we don't support ARNs then we need some other unique identifier format, so we can reference nested resources | 20:18 |
| zaneb | I think it will have to | 20:18 |
| shardy | I've implemented AWS::StackId to use the ARN format, so at least for now, IMO the ReST API should support it | 20:18 |
| stevebaker | if it shouldn't go into the API then it could be supported client side | 20:18 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: that's true, ARN contains the uuid | 20:18 |
| shardy | In the cfn API it's just another accepted format for stack name, can we just do the same? | 20:19 |
| zaneb | yes, what shardy said is what I was originally thinking | 20:19 |
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| stevebaker | ok, that most likely would require any client changes | 20:20 |
| sdake_ | would or wouldn't? | 20:20 |
| stevebaker | ugh, wouldn't | 20:20 |
| sdake_ | ok, so anyone willing to take besides shardy :) | 20:20 |
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| sdake_ | ok, guess we can come back to that ;) | 20:21 |
| sdake_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1072938 | 20:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1072938 in heat/grizzly "nosetests -a does not return error if credentials not loaded on functional tests" [Low,Triaged] | 20:21 |
| sdake_ | 14th look ok jpeeler? | 20:21 |
| jpeeler | yeah, although what's the state for functional tests now? | 20:22 |
| jpeeler | there's a comment that says "no longer affects heat" | 20:22 |
| stevebaker | since we'll be switching to testr early in H should we WONTFIX it? | 20:22 |
| sdake_ | jpeeler this is my ineptitude with launchpad ;) | 20:23 |
| sdake_ | ya lets close it | 20:23 |
| sdake_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1102101 | 20:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1102101 in heat/grizzly "--host option to heat-boto is ignored" [Low,Triaged] | 20:24 |
| shardy | Should be ok, easy fix | 20:24 |
| sdake_ | ok | 20:24 |
| sdake_ | rest bugs are in progress | 20:24 |
| shardy | well, easy to remove the --host option, boto won't support it | 20:24 |
| sdake_ | need to have speedy reviews over next couple weeks to get the bugs fixed | 20:25 |
| * shardy hopes we don't lose any more days due to broken gates | 20:25 | |
| sdake_ | #topic image building | 20:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "image building (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:25 | |
| sdake_ | a few of us had a conversation in heat channel about our model going forward re images | 20:26 |
| sdake_ | i'll summarize that | 20:26 |
| sdake_ | 1. We want our jeos images to come from providers, rather then us creating them with heat-jeos | 20:26 |
| sdake_ | 2. images that work with heat should have cloud-init | 20:26 |
| sdake_ | 3. we will install pypi at runtime via a runcmd or change to the logusredata.py shell script | 20:26 |
| sdake_ | sorry we will install via pypi heat-cfntools | 20:27 |
| stevebaker | (or direct inject, yet to be determined ;) ) | 20:27 |
| sdake_ | 4. heat-cfntools is going into the github.com/openstack repo for packaging by distros | 20:27 |
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| sdake_ | was there anything I missed or any concerns with this approach? | 20:27 |
| stevebaker | to reduce dependencies, in heat-cfntools boto will be replaced with a bare-bones client | 20:28 |
| sdake_ | ok, since this is a fairly large change, i'd like to have a vote on it from the devs | 20:28 |
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| sdake_ | oh right, removing boto from dep list of heat-cfntools | 20:28 |
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| shardy | presume pypi is a stopgap until (4) packaging is completed? | 20:29 |
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| sdake_ | remains to be seen | 20:29 |
| zaneb | so, this all sounds good... | 20:29 |
| sdake_ | #vote approve 1-5 for image building (focus on default images from providers with cloudinit installed) | 20:29 |
| zaneb | but is it worth investing in, e.g. removing boto dependency if we plan to switch to aws tools? | 20:29 |
| stevebaker | shardy: even then, figuring out what package manager to use and if the distro is new enough will be a drag | 20:29 |
| zaneb | that's my only question | 20:29 |
| sdake_ | #startvote approve 1-5 for image building (focus on default images from providers with cloudinit installed) | 20:30 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 20:30 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: I don't think it is too much work. | 20:30 |
| zaneb | ok, then +1 | 20:30 |
| shardy | zaneb: I asked the same question earlier | 20:30 |
| sdake_ | well apparently im a dummy and need to rtfm :) | 20:30 |
| sdake_ | so lets jus thave a manual vote for now | 20:30 |
| sdake_ | +1 | 20:30 |
| stevebaker | sdake_: voting instructions? | 20:31 |
| asalkeld | well will it be more work to edit aws cfn? | 20:31 |
| shardy | +1 provided it's not a huge effort and it happens in H | 20:31 |
| stevebaker | #vote yes | 20:31 |
| sdake_ | shardy we were planning to do this in g | 20:32 |
| shardy | sdake_: way too risky IMO - this should be a blueprint for H | 20:32 |
| sdake_ | problem is once its out in the wild - its out in the wild | 20:32 |
| stevebaker | shardy: it would be nice to sort this in G. Most guest distros have dependency dramas right now | 20:32 |
| sdake_ | we are going to keep heat-jeos around for the time being | 20:32 |
| asalkeld | shardy, a big problem is getting the cfntools dynamically installable | 20:33 |
| stevebaker | I think dynamic install is for H | 20:33 |
| shardy | Ok, but we have a proven capability with the cfntools, hacking in a new client library and changing the deployment method a couple of weeks before release is a bad idea (very bad IMO) | 20:33 |
| asalkeld | that is what we are talking about? | 20:33 |
| sdake_ | well original vote was for g | 20:34 |
| sdake_ | since there is some heartburn over that, we can push it to h | 20:34 |
| shardy | Look at the bug list - we already have loads of problems, why introduce more? | 20:34 |
| shardy | (IMHO) ;) | 20:34 |
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| sdake_ | however, please approve https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1105806 since this is what brought about all this discussion | 20:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1105806 in heat "/var/lib/cloud belongs to cloud-init, heat should not write files there" [Medium,In progress] | 20:35 |
| sdake_ | which needs to be fixed in g | 20:35 |
| sdake_ | #info dynamic image build for H rather then G | 20:35 |
| stevebaker | just +1 it for now, until there is a matching change for heat-cfntools | 20:35 |
| sdake_ | #topic blueprints review | 20:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "blueprints review (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:35 | |
| sdake_ | so, as I said, I'd like to do some bp review during our meetings on the 21st and 28 | 20:37 |
| sdake_ | to pick out the ones that require discussion at summit | 20:37 |
| sdake_ | vs the ones that are not all that controversial | 20:37 |
| sdake_ | this will be on demand - ie if we have a ton of bugs to sort out in rc2, we may put this off | 20:37 |
| asalkeld | k | 20:38 |
| sdake_ | ones that are controversial, I'll invite the bp submitter to present a design session at summit on topic | 20:38 |
| stevebaker | sdake_: when is the cutoff for filing blueprints? | 20:38 |
| sdake_ | the actual proces is we do bp review at start of h | 20:38 |
| asalkeld | this is more do you want it discussed at summit | 20:38 |
| sdake_ | asalkeld is correct | 20:39 |
| sdake_ | expect bp cuttoff will be around h-1 | 20:39 |
| sdake_ | the H schedule hasn't been published yet | 20:39 |
| sdake_ | #topic open items | 20:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open items (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:39 | |
| zaneb | I won't be at summit, so I don't care what y'all talk about ;) | 20:39 |
| sdake_ | thats the spirit ;) | 20:40 |
| sdake_ | any pressing issues | 20:40 |
| sdake_ | i know there have been some complaints on the review overhead | 20:40 |
| asalkeld | I would assume it's more external bp | 20:40 |
| sdake_ | this is typical for a project that takes on more governance | 20:40 |
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| sdake_ | learn to like :) | 20:40 |
| shardy | Did we want to discuss the gating process - we've had a couple of simple but serious problems slip through recently | 20:41 |
| shardy | I'm wondering if there's anything we can do to do some sort of integration style smoke test in addition to the unit tests | 20:41 |
| sdake_ | i fixed those problems with pyflakes patch in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23102/ | 20:41 |
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| shardy | sdake_: Ah, ok cool, I've not looked at that yet | 20:42 |
| stevebaker | It seems reasonable to just write a new test each time something like this happens | 20:42 |
| shardy | sdake_: would that have caught e.g the missing resources import? | 20:42 |
| sdake_ | well, what happened is an undefined reference | 20:42 |
| zaneb | sdake_: that's going to break it again | 20:42 |
| asalkeld | the worst is when no test run | 20:42 |
| asalkeld | and it says all is great | 20:43 |
| sdake_ | the tests for the oslo import was ok | 20:43 |
| zaneb | shardy: that*reintroduces* the missing resources import! | 20:43 |
| sdake_ | what happened was the import was not done | 20:43 |
| sdake_ | pyflakes catches these problems | 20:43 |
| asalkeld | yea, don't listen too much to pyflacks | 20:43 |
| sdake_ | and now its part of the gate | 20:43 |
| stevebaker | we're all pyflacks around here | 20:44 |
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| asalkeld | hah | 20:44 |
| sdake_ | or will be once that patch is fixed | 20:44 |
| sdake_ | rather merged ;) | 20:44 |
| shardy | zaneb: gah - that's a horrible failure mode, cos everything looks fine, until you realize heat isn't actually doing anything ;) | 20:44 |
| asalkeld | zaneb, maybe we need a code comment there | 20:45 |
| zaneb | just gave that patch -2, sorry sdake_ ;) | 20:45 |
| zaneb | asalkeld: yes, good idea | 20:45 |
| asalkeld | # ok, just ignore pyflacks and hit your pagedown button please | 20:45 |
| sdake_ | what is the problem with pyflakes? | 20:46 |
| asalkeld | it does not understand magic | 20:46 |
| asalkeld | esp. zaneb magic ;) | 20:46 |
| zaneb | maybe we should move that line into heat/engine/__init__.py so folks are less tempted to delete it | 20:46 |
| sdake_ | indication to stop doing magic tricks ;) | 20:46 |
| asalkeld | (driver/plugin loading) | 20:47 |
| sdake_ | ok well i'll have a look at the review | 20:47 |
| sdake_ | we can add a special case for one particular import | 20:47 |
| zaneb | I'll check properly for others after this | 20:48 |
| shardy | zaneb: could we add a type check to resource.py::create() which makes sure the resource it's creating matches the template type via the resource map? | 20:48 |
| shardy | At least then we could raise a hard error instead of creating GenericResource | 20:48 |
| zaneb | shardy: we could, but the unit tests will not catch it | 20:48 |
| zaneb | because they all import stuff from the resources | 20:49 |
| asalkeld | ckoverflow.com/questions/5033727/how-do-i-get-pyflakes-to-ignore-a-statement | 20:49 |
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| zaneb | (actually, we should get rid of GenericResource altogether) | 20:49 |
| shardy | zaneb: At least then the engine would blow up in a more spectaular/obvious way ;) | 20:49 |
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| asalkeld | You can also import with __import__. It's not pythonic, but pyflakes does not warn you anymore. | 20:49 |
| shardy | zaneb: +1, I was going to say that until I realized I'm using it in some tests ;) | 20:49 |
| zaneb | shardy: yes, +1. there is no sensible reason for us to have a default resource type | 20:50 |
| asalkeld | that was only there when we had so little impl. that I needed a placeholder | 20:50 |
| shardy | maybe move it into heat/tests as it is useful for testing the parser logic | 20:50 |
| zaneb | yes, it made sense at the time, but not now | 20:51 |
| sdake_ | ok well running short on time - we can discuss in the review | 20:51 |
| sdake_ | one thing that patch also does is introduce nova's hacking requirements | 20:51 |
| sdake_ | over time, i'd suggest we match up with their added pep rules | 20:51 |
| sdake_ | they put em in for a reason and they have been at it alot longer then heat community has | 20:52 |
| shardy | I thought we aligned with all pep rules, and nova ignores some? | 20:52 |
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| sdake_ | we do, but nova introduces more | 20:52 |
| sdake_ | it has about 15 extra rules | 20:52 |
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| shardy | Ah, ok, I thought that list was exceptions to the default pep check | 20:52 |
| sdake_ | nova actually ignores some pep8 rules which i think make sense like the aligning multi-line calls | 20:53 |
| sdake_ | i find that annoying coupled with the 80 char limit of pep8 | 20:53 |
| jog0 | sdake_: nova ignores all E12 pep8 errors | 20:53 |
| sdake_ | jog0 thx | 20:54 |
| sdake_ | well we can introduce those nova rules over time - they are excluded atm | 20:54 |
| sdake_ | (but in the patch) | 20:54 |
| sdake_ | ok anything else? | 20:54 |
| asalkeld | nope | 20:55 |
| sdake_ | thanks folks | 20:55 |
| sdake_ | #endmeeting | 20:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 27 20:55:29 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2013/heat.2013-02-27-20.00.html | 20:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2013/heat.2013-02-27-20.00.txt | 20:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2013/heat.2013-02-27-20.00.log.html | 20:55 |
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| nijaba | #startmeeting Ceilometer | 21:00 |
| nijaba | #meetingtopic Ceilometer | 21:00 |
| nijaba | #chair nijaba | 21:00 |
| nijaba | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/MeteringAgenda | 21:00 |
| nijaba | ATTENTION: please keep discussion focused on topic until we reach the open discussion topic | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 27 21:00:39 2013 UTC. The chair is nijaba. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ceilometer)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ceilometer)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | Current chairs: nijaba | 21:00 |
| nijaba | Hello everyone! Show of hands, who is around for the ceilometer meeting? | 21:00 |
| nijaba | o/ | 21:00 |
| eglynn | o/ | 21:00 |
| zykes- | ooh | 21:00 |
| zykes- | o/ | 21:00 |
| apmelton | o/ | 21:00 |
| fnaval | o/ | 21:00 |
| n0ano | o/ | 21:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 21:01 |
| zzs | o/ | 21:01 |
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| nijaba | asalkeld: jd__ I am sure you guys are around too | 21:01 |
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| jd__ | o/ | 21:01 |
| nijaba | nice to see everyone else | 21:01 |
| maksimov1 | o/ | 21:02 |
| nijaba | shall we start? | 21:02 |
| nijaba | #topic actions from previous meeting | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions from previous meeting (Meeting topic: Ceilometer)" | 21:02 | |
| shengjie_home | o/ | 21:02 |
| nijaba | #topic dhellmann add new architecture diagram to wiki | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "dhellmann add new architecture diagram to wiki (Meeting topic: Ceilometer)" | 21:02 | |
| nijaba | I believe this was done by eglynn, right? | 21:02 |
| eglynn | yep | 21:02 |
| dhellmann | yes, he did | 21:02 |
| nijaba | #info done by eglynn | 21:02 |
| dhellmann | and his was better suited so I didn't add mine | 21:02 |
| eglynn | cool | 21:02 |
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| nijaba | thanks you both, anyway, as I saw you guys exchanging on the subject ! | 21:03 |
| asalkeld | hi | 21:03 |
| nijaba | #topic eglynn add bumper-sticker statements to wiki | 21:03 |
| nijaba | #info done | 21:03 |
| nijaba | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ceilometer/Graduation#Key_take-aways | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "eglynn add bumper-sticker statements to wiki (Meeting topic: Ceilometer)" | 21:03 | |
| nijaba | so if you don' t know what to put on your bumper, go there... | 21:04 |
| nijaba | #topic nijaba to send a graduation email to the tc ml a few hours before the meeting, inviting to read the wiki | 21:04 |
| nijaba | #info done | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "nijaba to send a graduation email to the tc ml a few hours before the meeting, inviting to read the wiki (Meeting topic: Ceilometer)" | 21:04 | |
| nijaba | That was it for last week's action | 21:04 |
| nijaba | #topic Graduation status | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Graduation status (Meeting topic: Ceilometer)" | 21:04 | |
| nijaba | So I'd like to congratulate and thank everyone in the team as WE MADE IT | 21:04 |
| nijaba | We are now officially an integrated openstack project! Not yet core, but that's a Board decision from this point, not a TC one. | 21:04 |
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| zykes- | congrats all of ya! | 21:05 |
| eglynn | w00t! | 21:05 |
| jd__ | \o/ | 21:05 |
| * maksimov1 says woohoo | 21:05 | |
| dhellmann | :-) | 21:05 |
| asalkeld | well done | 21:05 |
| dhellmann | yes, lots of hard work from everyone on the team, thank you all! | 21:05 |
| nijaba | that was a great team work! I think we impressed them by our cohesion on prep... | 21:05 |
| zzs | fabulous and congrats!!! | 21:05 |
| nealph | kudos to all...especially those who worked the process to make it happen. | 21:06 |
| nijaba | so, now if you know board members, it is time to buying them drinks | 21:06 |
| * nijaba hopes to get lots of free drinks this way ;) | 21:06 | |
| * nealph thinks that's really working the process. | 21:06 | |
| * dhellmann thinks nijaba has nothing to worry about on that front | 21:06 | |
| maksimov1 | make them come over to dublin for some guinness | 21:06 |
| eglynn | :) we always like to share our Guinness | 21:07 |
| nijaba | maksimov1: eglynn: and I alsways enjoy drinking it ;) | 21:07 |
| shengjie_home | good one, stas | 21:07 |
| eglynn | do we need to make any practical changes to the way we do things as a project, as a result of the status change? | 21:07 |
| nijaba | #topic Review status of blueprints that were granted an exception | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review status of blueprints that were granted an exception (Meeting topic: Ceilometer)" | 21:08 | |
| maksimov1 | oh no | 21:08 |
| nijaba | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/publisher-counters-frequency | 21:08 |
| nijaba | any update on this one? | 21:08 |
| jd__ | eglynn: I don't think so, we already did everything as incubated I think | 21:08 |
| eglynn | cool | 21:08 |
| jd__ | nijaba: it has been merged | 21:08 |
| nijaba | eglynn: I concur with jd__ | 21:08 |
| nijaba | jd__: great!! | 21:08 |
| nijaba | #info merged | 21:09 |
| nijaba | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/hbase-storage-backend | 21:09 |
| nijaba | what about that one? | 21:09 |
| maksimov1 | pretty much in nitpicking stage now | 21:09 |
| jd__ | yep | 21:09 |
| jd__ | should be fine soon now | 21:09 |
| nijaba | good to hear! | 21:09 |
| nijaba | and great job | 21:09 |
| maksimov1 | working on some performance optimizations but can go ahead without, i understand. and work those as an issue | 21:09 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I have some concerns with the latest formula for calculating ranges, but I think we can work that out quickly | 21:10 |
| nijaba | I am hearing lots of people really happy to see this happen | 21:10 |
| jd__ | maksimov1: yep | 21:10 |
| dhellmann | and the performance stuff can be done as rc1 improvements | 21:10 |
| nijaba | right | 21:10 |
| nijaba | #info nice progress and soon to be merged | 21:10 |
| nijaba | moving on to the next topic... | 21:11 |
| nijaba | #topic RC1 status | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC1 status (Meeting topic: Ceilometer)" | 21:11 | |
| nijaba | Anything to be noted on our progress for RC1? Any points to bring up? | 21:11 |
| eglynn | good progress on qpid testing with devstack on ubuntu, some minor issues on fedora I need to work through | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | asalkeld and I were discussing using gunicorn to run the v1 and v2 api together, and he raised the point about adding a new dependency | 21:12 |
| nijaba | eglynn: good to hear | 21:12 |
| asalkeld | dhellmann, I can maybe make it optional | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | (for those who weren't in the metering room for that discussion) | 21:12 |
| jd__ | dhellmann: it's likely to be a bit late at this point yeah :( | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | asalkeld: yeah, optional seems like a good way to go | 21:13 |
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| dhellmann | or, like I said, just document what needs to be done as an example | 21:13 |
| jd__ | could work to do | 21:13 |
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| nijaba | dhellmann: should we ask our favorite packagers what they think? thinking of zul, zigo_ and the likes | 21:14 |
| eglynn | the new dependency is packaged up already for deb & fedora, right? | 21:14 |
| maksimov1 | should we break out drivers into extras in rc1 or in havana? | 21:14 |
| eglynn | (if I'm thinking of the same dep ...) | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | eglynn: afaik, yes, there should be a package | 21:14 |
| eglynn | cool | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | it's not a new tool, it would just be new to us | 21:14 |
| asalkeld | it's in ubuntu and fed | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | maksimov1: I think that's definitely a havana change, since it means lots of repository shuffling. | 21:15 |
| jd__ | dhellmann: not if you use extra_require I think | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/separate-storage-packages | 21:15 |
| nijaba | asalkeld: and they both have the version you need or greater? | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | jd__: yes, but if nothing actually pays attention to that list I'm not sure how it helps end users | 21:15 |
| asalkeld | nijaba, I'll neeed to see | 21:16 |
| jd__ | dhellmann: nothing? | 21:16 |
| maksimov1 | oh nice we have a bp | 21:16 |
| jd__ | dhellmann: that's at least a big hint for packagers to use the good fields in their packages | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | jd__: well, if I deploy celometer, how do I know which driver wants which extras? | 21:16 |
| jd__ | dhellmann: you can map features tu requirements | 21:16 |
| jd__ | s/tu/to/ | 21:17 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'll have to read more about that | 21:17 |
| jd__ | ok :) | 21:18 |
| nijaba | anything else about rc1? | 21:18 |
| nijaba | or shall we move to the next topic? | 21:19 |
| dhellmann | +1 | 21:19 |
| nijaba | #topic Summit sessions | 21:19 |
| eglynn | go for it | 21:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit sessions (Meeting topic: Ceilometer)" | 21:19 | |
| nijaba | Just a reminder that we should start submitting session topics (and blueprints linked to it) for the dev summit. I think only sandywalsh and dhellmann has provided some so far | 21:19 |
| nijaba | #link http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/topic/1 | 21:19 |
| nealph | fyi, we have 2 discussion bp's in the queue for internal approval...hoping to post them up asap. | 21:19 |
| nijaba | something tells me that an alerting session or 2 is going to show up | 21:20 |
| maksimov1 | shengjie_home: if you're going, will you have a topic? | 21:20 |
| * eglynn just got travel approval, was holding off submitting til then | 21:20 | |
| asalkeld | nijaba, eglynn is planning that | 21:20 |
| eglynn | yep | 21:20 |
| nijaba | neat | 21:20 |
| shengjie_home | maksimov1: sure , we can work out a topic too | 21:20 |
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| maksimov1 | nijaba: is there a deadline for topics submission? | 21:21 |
| eglynn | nijaba: have you confirmed the time slice the ceilo track is getting? | 21:21 |
| nijaba | maksimov1: I think the deadline is 1 week prior to the summit | 21:21 |
| maksimov1 | nijaba: cool. plenty'o'time | 21:21 |
| eglynn | (also whether it won't clash with the heat track ...) | 21:21 |
| shengjie_home | nice | 21:21 |
| nijaba | but the eralier the better, as it will help determine how many 1/2 days we neeed a room for | 21:21 |
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| shengjie_home | nijaba: we will have something by this week | 21:22 |
| nijaba | so I'd rather have topic early, with empty bp, than not enough time alocated | 21:22 |
| asalkeld | ok | 21:22 |
| maksimov1 | i'd go with next week, just to be safe :) | 21:22 |
| nealph | ahh, okay. will keep that in mind if internal gears grind too slowly... | 21:22 |
| eglynn | sounds like some horse-trading to be done between PTLs on how much time each project gets? | 21:24 |
| maksimov1 | :) | 21:24 |
| nijaba | eglynn: not even sure there is tradding to be done this time. I think we can get our own room for 4 days if we ask for it | 21:24 |
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| nijaba | actually, we could use it as a coding room when we don' t have sessions, maybe? | 21:25 |
| eglynn | a-ha, ok | 21:25 |
| eglynn | hackathon stylee? | 21:25 |
| maksimov1 | haha, nijaba, nice | 21:25 |
| nijaba | yup | 21:25 |
| nijaba | I'll check into it | 21:25 |
| eglynn | could be fun | 21:25 |
| asalkeld | yip | 21:25 |
| nijaba | #action nijaba to check room allocation for ceilometer during summit | 21:26 |
| nijaba | anything else on this topic? | 21:26 |
| nijaba | #topic Open discussion | 21:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: Ceilometer)" | 21:27 | |
| * nijaba notes that we may finish early today.... has not happened in a while | 21:27 | |
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| eglynn | yep | 21:27 |
| nijaba | anything, anyone? | 21:27 |
| asalkeld | no, all good | 21:28 |
| dhellmann | nope | 21:28 |
| maksimov1 | nope, everything is perfect | 21:28 |
| jd__ | nope too | 21:28 |
| shengjie_home | nope | 21:28 |
| nijaba | Should we work on some ceilometer tshirts for the project team? | 21:28 |
| maksimov1 | who has skills? | 21:28 |
| dhellmann | yes! :-) | 21:28 |
| nealph | what's the update on the logo? | 21:28 |
| zykes- | to those of you that's uninformed: https://github.com/billingstack/billingstack/ | 21:28 |
| nijaba | to draw tshirts? I think I can find someone | 21:28 |
| zykes- | just thought I'd pop that in :) . we're planning on consuming Ceilometer data in not too long | 21:29 |
| nijaba | well, I don't think we have found volunteers for the logo | 21:29 |
| maksimov1 | zykes-: interesting | 21:29 |
| nijaba | #action nijaba to start a brainstorm wiki for a tag line on the tshirt | 21:30 |
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| zykes- | there's some other stuff as well maksimov1, that is just 1 part our little plan ;p | 21:30 |
| eglynn | "in soviet russia, cloud meters you" | 21:31 |
| nijaba | "We push metrics to the clouds" | 21:31 |
| * eglynn steals from humour at TC meeting last night ... | 21:31 | |
| jd__ | eglynn: lol | 21:31 |
| nealph | "our metrics are cloudy". maybe not... | 21:31 |
| nijaba | actually that's originaly mirantis... the clouds deploys you | 21:31 |
| nijaba | "how high can your cloud go?" | 21:32 |
| nijaba | "how high on clouds are you?" | 21:32 |
| maksimov1 | as a russian i find "in soviet russia" jokes a bit dated ;) | 21:32 |
| jd__ | We are weather! | 21:32 |
| nijaba | we are the dow of cloud (if some remember a similar add by sun) | 21:33 |
| eglynn | maksimov1: apologies :) | 21:33 |
| maksimov1 | no worries eglynn i make them myself sometimes :P | 21:33 |
| eglynn | (I also find Irish jokes about drinking, fighting & potatoes grate a little ...) | 21:33 |
| maksimov1 | ah sure it's alright | 21:34 |
| nijaba | eglynn: really, you've got to share a few though ;) | 21:34 |
| eglynn | over beer at summit ;) | 21:34 |
| nijaba | eglynn: deal | 21:34 |
| dhellmann | speaking of that, I hope we can manage a team dinner this time around | 21:34 |
| eglynn | great idea | 21:35 |
| dhellmann | I'd be willing to forego one of the parties if necessary based on travel arrangements | 21:35 |
| asalkeld | yea, and eglynn will grate some potatoes | 21:35 |
| asalkeld | ;) | 21:35 |
| dhellmann | though I probably have to attend the dreamhost party, if we give one | 21:35 |
| maksimov1 | :D | 21:35 |
| dhellmann | s/have to/should/ | 21:35 |
| nijaba | +1 on a team dinner | 21:35 |
| eglynn | prolly best avoid the jet-lagged sunday evening meetup this time if poss | 21:35 |
| nijaba | maybe sunday night? | 21:35 |
| dhellmann | right, that's what I was thinking | 21:35 |
| nijaba | ahah | 21:36 |
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| dhellmann | I'm not arriving until around 9:00 sunday evening, myself | 21:37 |
| eglynn | 20:15 for me ... 4am body-clock time | 21:37 |
| dhellmann | we can wait to see what the schedule looks like, but I was thinking monday or tuesday might work best | 21:37 |
| maksimov1 | for t-shirt tag something as blunt as wiki excerpt may do well - Ceilometer: a device that uses a LASER to measure height of a cloud. how much cooler can you get? | 21:37 |
| nijaba | ok, so doodle but I suggest to do this after we have a schedule of the parties!!! | 21:37 |
| dhellmann | nijaba: +1 | 21:37 |
| nijaba | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ceilometer/TagLine | 21:38 |
| nijaba | fire away with any idea you may have!! | 21:39 |
| nijaba | anything else before I go to bed? ;) | 21:39 |
| eglynn | nope | 21:39 |
| dhellmann | not here | 21:39 |
| jd__ | all clear | 21:39 |
| maksimov1 | i'm cool | 21:40 |
| nijaba | ok, thanks a lot everyone. another fun meeting together! | 21:40 |
| nijaba | next meeting thu march 7th 15UTC | 21:40 |
| nijaba | #endmeeting | 21:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 27 21:40:46 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2013/ceilometer.2013-02-27-21.00.html | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2013/ceilometer.2013-02-27-21.00.txt | 21:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2013/ceilometer.2013-02-27-21.00.log.html | 21:40 |
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