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| markvan | 2-28-2013 | 15:16 |
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| markvan | [Crew Member]: Mark V | 15:16 |
| markvan | [Yesterday]: | 15:16 |
| markvan | - EGO DRS integration issues | 15:16 |
| markvan | - Patent review | 15:16 |
| markvan | - Code Reviews | 15:16 |
| markvan | - Power 8 Counters | 15:16 |
| markvan | [Today]: | 15:16 |
| markvan | - Kumar Cloud meetings | 15:16 |
| markvan | - Patent writeup | 15:16 |
| markvan | [Blockers]: None | 15:17 |
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| davidkranz | Hello tempest? | 17:02 |
| afazekas | hi | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | hi | 17:02 |
| ravikumar_hp | hi | 17:02 |
| mlavalle | Hi, I am here for the Tempest meeting | 17:02 |
| sdague | hey | 17:02 |
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| davidkranz | #startmeeting qa | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 28 17:03:05 2013 UTC. The chair is davidkranz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:03 |
| davidkranz | #topic Reviews | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reviews (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:03 | |
| giulivo | hi | 17:03 |
| afrittoli | hi | 17:03 |
| davidkranz | Welcome everyone | 17:03 |
| davidkranz | Does any one know the plan for the identity v3 tests? | 17:04 |
| davidkranz | I see Sean submitted a qa session about this. | 17:04 |
| sdague | I did... :) | 17:05 |
| sdague | ? | 17:05 |
| mtreinish | I though that I did... | 17:05 |
| sdague | yeh, I think mtreinish did | 17:05 |
| davidkranz | mtreinish: Sorry about that. | 17:05 |
| ravikumar_hp | davidkranz: we need to follow same methodology like our clients Version like Glance v1 , V2 | 17:05 |
| sdague | ravikumar_hp: we don't actually have a strategy for glance v2... we don't test it | 17:05 |
| mtreinish | ravikumar_hp: there is no glance v2 testing right now | 17:05 |
| davidkranz | ravikumar_hp: Yes, we decided last week that the configured uri should be the base, without the version. | 17:06 |
| sdague | that's what mtreinish is working on figuring out a sane way to do | 17:06 |
| davidkranz | The client will look for the 300 response and act accordingly. | 17:06 |
| davidkranz | I think the issue os which versions we test and how is slightly different. | 17:06 |
| davidkranz | ^^^of | 17:06 |
| sdague | davidkranz: on the subject of design sessions, I'm going to have a bunch, but if it's ok I'm going to punt on doing them right away to try to close some release bugs first | 17:07 |
| davidkranz | The question is whether we should review and accept the identity v3 tests before the client is configured so they can run, or make them able to run first. | 17:07 |
| davidkranz | I would prefer the latter. | 17:07 |
| davidkranz | sdague: NP | 17:08 |
| sdague | davidkranz: I think it's ok to review them now. We can then refactor for simplicity later | 17:08 |
| ravikumar_hp | davidkranz: I agree | 17:08 |
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| ravikumar_hp | sdague: +1 | 17:08 |
| ravikumar_hp | davidkranz: Most of V3 is complete and we need to have tests | 17:09 |
| davidkranz | ravikumar_hp, sdague : OK, but let's make them always skip rather than skip if v3 is not configured so there are no troubles when they are enabled. | 17:09 |
| sdague | I think we've tended in the past to want to wait for infrastructure before we add features, but some times the features are ready and the infrastructure takes time. | 17:09 |
| sdague | davidkranz: yeh, agreed. | 17:09 |
| sdague | actually, what's needed in devstack to flip on v3? | 17:09 |
| ravikumar_hp | davidkranz: agree | 17:09 |
| sdague | honestly, the two will gate each other. | 17:10 |
| davidkranz | sdague: The auth_uri needs to be the base and we ask keystone for supported versions. | 17:10 |
| sdague | ok | 17:10 |
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| davidkranz | I think that can be done in Tempest first, and then able the tests. | 17:10 |
| davidkranz | I don't see why they gate each other. Supposedly v3 is already enabled in devstack keystone. | 17:11 |
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| davidkranz | ravikumar_hp: I think there is code in the kestone functional tests that provide an example. That's what ayoung told me. | 17:12 |
| davidkranz | Any other issues with reviews? | 17:12 |
| ravikumar_hp | davidkranz: ok . we will update tests that are in review state | 17:12 |
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| davidkranz | ravikumar_hp: Thanks. | 17:13 |
| ayoung | davidkranz, yes see keysteon/tests/test_v3* | 17:13 |
| ravikumar_hp | ayoung: Thanks | 17:14 |
| davidkranz | I think we are getting reviews done in a timely matter. | 17:15 |
| Nithya | Is rescue feature enabled by default in devstack? I have presently disbled the rescue tests and there is a question by Chris on having them disabled https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22024/ | 17:15 |
| sdague | yeh, things are moving pretty good | 17:15 |
| davidkranz | The only old ones in the queue are the keystone v3 we just discussed. | 17:15 |
| sdague | Nithya: if it's an extension, all extensions are loaded by default | 17:15 |
| sdague | so no need for a config | 17:16 |
| davidkranz | Nithya: How about just giving it a try? | 17:16 |
| sdague | so this brings up another good point, auto skipping | 17:16 |
| Nithya | I will do that. Thanks David and Sean | 17:16 |
| sdague | we do too much of that | 17:16 |
| davidkranz | sdague: Yeah. | 17:17 |
| sdague | we should have a single flag for extension tests which is "require all extension tests" or not | 17:17 |
| sdague | not a per extension flag | 17:17 |
| davidkranz | sdague: +1 | 17:17 |
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| davidkranz | sdague: We don't want to support complex configuration for this. | 17:17 |
| sdague | because we end up auto skipping when things are broken otherwise | 17:17 |
| davidkranz | People can modify their test runner params if theyh want something more. | 17:17 |
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| sdague | I think there is an ec2 issue around that today | 17:17 |
| sdague | so I think we'll need a config purge at some point, maybe that's a session | 17:18 |
| davidkranz | sdague: I think a fix for that may have gone in today. | 17:18 |
| davidkranz | sdague: Yes, or at least a discussion. | 17:19 |
| afrittoli | we could at least tag the tests when they target a specific extension | 17:19 |
| sdague | because it's easy enough to query nova about the enabled extensions | 17:19 |
| afrittoli | this would make it easier to filter tests | 17:19 |
| sdague | yeh, well we need a summit session on tagging and test organizing as well :) | 17:19 |
| mtreinish | afrittoli: they should already be split up into separate files for the most part right? | 17:19 |
| sdague | because we're going to need features added to testr | 17:19 |
| afrittoli | sdague:=1 | 17:19 |
| afrittoli | +1 | 17:19 |
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| mtreinish | then it's just an exclude option | 17:20 |
| sdague | yeh, the exclude option works | 17:20 |
| afazekas | As I remember in our bug tracker there was some, request for having tempest to working in a partially configured environment. | 17:20 |
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| sdague | afazekas: yeh, that's probably true. | 17:20 |
| afazekas | sdague: do want to refuse them ? | 17:20 |
| davidkranz | afazekas: I think there just needs to be a way to identify the tests of a specific "optional" configuration. | 17:21 |
| sdague | afazekas: well what I envision is a single flag which says "allow tempest to skip extensions that aren't active" | 17:21 |
| sdague | which we default to no | 17:21 |
| davidkranz | sdague: Sounds reasonable. | 17:21 |
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| afazekas | sdague: ok | 17:22 |
| ravikumar_hp | sdague: how to flag extensions that are not active | 17:22 |
| afrittoli | I think we need to support tempest running outside of the community gate / periodic tasks. I mean everyone has to configure it's own test suites / selections / configurations, but the framework should facilitate this | 17:22 |
| sdague | and then let tempest make the query to get_extensions on nova to get the list | 17:22 |
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| sdague | ravikumar_hp: the extension list is REST api call in nova | 17:22 |
| afrittoli | I think the more we do this the more contributions we can get | 17:22 |
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| sdague | afrittoli: so it's fine to also allow for that, but the gate should be the priority at this point | 17:23 |
| sdague | because there is plenty to make this good for the gate | 17:23 |
| SHREE-HP | <afrittoli>: +1 for the tempest config | 17:23 |
| sdague | and the last thing I want to do is make tempest this giant config explosion to suite the incompatible needs of vendor clouds :) | 17:24 |
| afrittoli | sdague: +1 I agree | 17:24 |
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| afrittoli | but we may need to provide some level of abstractions then, some classes which can be rewritten by vendors | 17:25 |
| afrittoli | like nova does with drivers / plugins | 17:25 |
| sdague | afrittoli: I'm not sure I agree on the statement of rewrite | 17:25 |
| afazekas | afrittoli: they can create test classes :) | 17:25 |
| sdague | adds, sure | 17:25 |
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| sdague | but public extensions and server creation in core openstack should act that same | 17:25 |
| afrittoli | I'm thinking of use cases like "how to get access to a VM" | 17:26 |
| sdague | oh, the whitebox stuff | 17:26 |
| sdague | yeh, sure, but lets just get api coverage above 30% first :) | 17:26 |
| afrittoli | depending on how you have nova configured you will need a keypair, or a SG, and you'll have to use the tenant nw or the public network or else | 17:26 |
| sdague | there is lots of low hanging fruit there | 17:26 |
| sdague | afrittoli: so that would make a good session | 17:27 |
| afrittoli | sdague: ok fair enough | 17:27 |
| sdague | cross vendor whitebox access | 17:27 |
| sdague | I'm willing to concede that we need some flexibility there | 17:27 |
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| afrittoli | sdague: session for the summit you mean | 17:28 |
| sdague | afrittoli: yes, summit session | 17:29 |
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| afazekas | or just someone should create some blueprint about, what he needs to hook and why.. | 17:29 |
| sdague | I guess that's a worth while topic, who in the channel is planning on going to summit? | 17:29 |
| sdague | to figure out which conversations we can take there, and which we need to have outside of there | 17:29 |
| mlavalle | sdague: I am going to the Summit | 17:29 |
| afrittoli | sdague: I'll be there | 17:29 |
| sdague | <= going | 17:29 |
| donaldngo_hp | sdague: me | 17:30 |
| mtreinish | sdague: I am | 17:30 |
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| ravikumar_hp | I am | 17:30 |
| davidkranz | I will be there. | 17:30 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, it was test_trust_crud that failed when run in the larger body of tests. I am just reposted the trusts patch as well as my version of the tests. | 17:31 |
| ayoung | I got all successes when I ran this way: | 17:31 |
| davidkranz | ayoung: wrong channel... | 17:32 |
| sdague | :) | 17:32 |
| davidkranz | Any one know where we stand on parallel tempest? | 17:32 |
| sdague | davidkranz: yeh, I was chatting with cyeoh on that | 17:32 |
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| davidkranz | sdague: Do tell. | 17:33 |
| davidkranz | #topic Parallel tempest | 17:33 |
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| sdague | so the next steps are pretty big, so we decided it was better to hold until summit to figure out a few things | 17:33 |
| sdague | because to use testr for this we'll need to evolve it to understand our resource tracking | 17:33 |
| sdague | otherwise parallel will just make us slower | 17:34 |
| sdague | lifeless is on board on this in theory, but I think the details need to be hammered at summit | 17:34 |
| davidkranz | sdague: OK. So there is no point in others trying to run it then? | 17:34 |
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| davidkranz | sdague: For now. | 17:35 |
| sdague | so you could turn on testr today, it's about 2 days worth of patches, but it wouldn't be a win until we teach it how to be smart about our resources | 17:35 |
| sdague | yeh, not really at the moment | 17:35 |
| davidkranz | sdague: OK, good to know. | 17:35 |
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| sdague | that's part of my desire to clean up and consolidate the resource tracking inside tempest prior to summit | 17:35 |
| sdague | as it will make having this conversation a lot simpler | 17:36 |
| afazekas | sdague: we need limit the credential isolation to per process, instead of per class | 17:36 |
| afazekas | we need a to add a TestSuite | 17:36 |
| sdague | as there will be a small number of choke points in tempest where all our spawned resources come from | 17:36 |
| sdague | afazekas: right, true | 17:36 |
| afazekas | and after thet we can share resources between xml / json pairs | 17:36 |
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| sdague | afazekas: so who at redhat do we need to poke to get you to portland :) | 17:37 |
| sdague | would love to have you there in these conversations | 17:37 |
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| sdague | I honestly expect we'll be able to sit and hack some code with lifeless while we're there | 17:37 |
| afazekas | sdague: I did not asked yet, but if get negative answer I will tell you :) (And I even don't have a passport) | 17:38 |
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| sdague | afazekas: please ask :) | 17:39 |
| davidkranz | Any other topics? | 17:40 |
| giulivo | guys, I'm a new arrival at tempest; I'd like to get some understanding of the status of the tests for cinder and swift and more in particular to ask if there is any relevant blueprint/bug I could start to look at; can you suggest any resource to start with? | 17:40 |
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| sdague | giulivo: the best thing to do is just start reading the relevant test trees | 17:40 |
| sdague | giulivo: and come over to #openstack-qa, people can point you in the right direction over there | 17:41 |
| sdague | davidkranz: no other topics from me | 17:41 |
| davidkranz | sdague: What about areas identified in the coverage list? | 17:41 |
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| davidkranz | mtreinish: ^^^ | 17:41 |
| sdague | davidkranz: mtreinish can speak to that... but we only have coverage on nova | 17:41 |
| sdague | because you need an extension | 17:41 |
| davidkranz | sdague: OK, but that info might point to new tests that could be added. | 17:42 |
| davidkranz | New topics going once... | 17:42 |
| mtreinish | davidkranz: yeah it's only in nova right now. I haven't had time to expand the list (https://etherpad.openstack.org/MissingTempestTests) in a while | 17:42 |
| mtreinish | davidkranz: I'm writing up a quick howto on how I go through the reports (it's honestly pretty straightforward) | 17:43 |
| davidkranz | mtreinish: OK, great. | 17:43 |
| donaldngo_hp | mtreinish: how are generating this list of the missing tests? | 17:43 |
| davidkranz | New topics going twice... | 17:44 |
| mlavalle | davidkranz: Can I get a review for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22927/? | 17:44 |
| mtreinish | donaldngo_hp: I go through the coverage reports and compare it to the tempest code. I'm writing a howto I'll send a link to the ml and post on openstack-qa when I'm done. | 17:45 |
| davidkranz | mlavalle: This should have a quantum domain expert review. | 17:45 |
| davidkranz | mlavalle: Can you grab some one? | 17:45 |
| donaldngo_hp | mtreinish: cool thanks | 17:45 |
| mlavalle | davidkranz: sure, thanks | 17:45 |
| davidkranz | mlavalle: I'll take a look after that. | 17:46 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 17:46 |
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| SHREE-HP | any updates on the negative tests & fuzz logic develoment? the last we heard is rackspace was plannign to propose solution.. | 17:47 |
| davidkranz | SHREE-HP: Don't know. Perhaps you could query on the mailing list. | 17:50 |
| sdague | ok, sounds like we're wrapping up? | 17:50 |
| afazekas | bye | 17:52 |
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| sdague | davidha: ok #endmeeting? | 17:55 |
| davidkranz | #endmeeting | 17:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 28 17:56:16 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2013/qa.2013-02-28-17.03.html | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2013/qa.2013-02-28-17.03.txt | 17:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2013/qa.2013-02-28-17.03.log.html | 17:56 |
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| bdpayne | #startmeeting OpenStack Security Group | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 28 18:00:11 2013 UTC. The chair is bdpayne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack Security Group)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 18:00 |
| bdpayne | good morning security group :-) | 18:00 |
| noslzzp | morning.. | 18:00 |
| bdpayne | (or afternoon / evening) | 18:00 |
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| bdpayne | I wanted to start by discussing design summit sessions | 18:01 |
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| bdpayne | #topic Design Summit Sessions | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Design Summit Sessions (Meeting topic: OpenStack Security Group)" | 18:01 | |
| bdpayne | #link http://summit.openstack.org/ | 18:01 |
| bdpayne | Just curious what people are planning on proposing in the security space | 18:02 |
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| bdpayne | I know there's the key manager one | 18:02 |
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| rellerreller | We are looking at having a disk encryption one | 18:02 |
| bdpayne | right, is that proposed yet? | 18:03 |
| rellerreller | Not officially. Still working on that | 18:03 |
| bdpayne | kk | 18:03 |
| bdpayne | I've been toying with the idea of putting something together on RBAC… would that be of interest? | 18:03 |
| rellerreller | I'd be interested | 18:04 |
| bdpayne | specifically, looking at what is needed to start providing meaningful RBAC across the stack | 18:04 |
| noslzzp | Yes. | 18:04 |
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| bdpayne | ok, I'll see if I can formalize that a bit and put something together… input welcome | 18:05 |
| noslzzp | I would suggest pinging ayoung@redhat.com | 18:05 |
| bdpayne | #action Bryan to think about RBAC design session | 18:05 |
| bdpayne | ah, good idea | 18:05 |
| bdpayne | #action Bryan to ping ayoung re RBAC | 18:05 |
| bdpayne | if there are other security related topics, please let us know | 18:06 |
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| bdpayne | for better or worse, I don't think that there will be a security track | 18:06 |
| bdpayne | so we will be scattered… but that does keep us integrated into the individual projects | 18:07 |
| bdpayne | which has its benefits | 18:07 |
| lglenden | will there be a security track in the user sessions? | 18:07 |
| bdpayne | I'm guessing that there will be… there was last time | 18:07 |
| bdpayne | and there were lots of security talks presenting this time | 18:07 |
| lglenden | okay, cool | 18:07 |
| bdpayne | s/presenting/proposed/ | 18:07 |
| ayoung | consider me pung | 18:08 |
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| noslzzp | ;) | 18:08 |
| bdpayne | hey ayoung :-) | 18:08 |
| bdpayne | I'll contact you outside of this meeting to chat about RBAC a bit… sound good? | 18:08 |
| ayoung | yep | 18:08 |
| bdpayne | thanks | 18:08 |
| * bdpayne never knew "pung" was a word | 18:09 | |
| bdpayne | ok, any other discussion on the summit? | 18:09 |
| noslzzp | ping + ayoung = pung.. | 18:09 |
| bdpayne | heh | 18:09 |
| lglenden | there was some talk about an informal meetup of the OSSG, any update there? | 18:09 |
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| ayoung | probably should bring up trusts | 18:10 |
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| bdpayne | Re the meet up, would it be useful to plan it this far in advance? | 18:10 |
| ayoung | But let me get them finished first. | 18:10 |
| bdpayne | We can, but I just assumed people would rather set it up closer to the event | 18:11 |
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| rellerreller | It's useful if not meeting during regular conference days (i.e. meet early day of or day late) | 18:11 |
| lglenden | that's okay with me, just wanted to make sure I haven't missed anything | 18:11 |
| bdpayne | so, nothing planned yet… I'll certainly announce here | 18:12 |
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| bdpayne | once the summit schedule is out, let's pick a night for dinner | 18:12 |
| lglenden | sounds good | 18:12 |
| noslzzp | indeed. | 18:12 |
| bdpayne | ok, pushing ahead | 18:12 |
| bdpayne | #topic Hardening Guide | 18:13 |
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| bdpayne | I saw that there was some chatter on this last week | 18:13 |
| bdpayne | both in the meeting, and outside of the meeting some feedback on the outline | 18:13 |
| noslzzp | Yes. | 18:13 |
| bdpayne | so, thanks! | 18:13 |
| noslzzp | I submitted a pull request, but I am not entirely happy with content/flow.. | 18:13 |
| bdpayne | I wanted to discuss the format for the guide | 18:13 |
| bdpayne | specifically, latex versus ?? | 18:14 |
| noslzzp | ok, let's discuss format, and I can bring up the content/flow issues.. | 18:14 |
| bdpayne | I think that latex was chosen by Rob and I b/c we know it best and were comfortable working with it | 18:14 |
| bdpayne | but, we're open to change if that would get other's more involved | 18:14 |
| ayoung | bdpayne, I am also proposing a summit talk that would fall under the aegis of Hardening | 18:15 |
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| bdpayne | so… can someone suggest a text based format that they would prefer to latex? | 18:15 |
| ayoung | bdpayne, markdown | 18:15 |
| noslzzp | i would suggest changing the format only because I have limited time to devote to getting up to proper speed with Tex.. | 18:15 |
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| ayoung | that is what we are using for the API docs | 18:15 |
| noslzzp | +1 for markdown. | 18:15 |
| bdpayne | ok, that works with me | 18:15 |
| ayoung | https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/tree/master/openstack-identity-api/src/markdown | 18:16 |
| bdpayne | basically, I only want to take the time to convert and learn a new language if others will actually contribute more because of it | 18:16 |
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| bdpayne | so, if I switch to markdown… will others then start putting up PRs? :-) | 18:17 |
| noslzzp | of course! | 18:17 |
| bdpayne | ok, we have a deal | 18:17 |
| bdpayne | #action Bryan to convert hardening guide from latex to markdown … after learning markdown | 18:17 |
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| bdpayne | real quick before we discuss hardening guide content… ayoung you had a summit talk idea? | 18:18 |
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| ayoung | bdpayne, yes, let me post link | 18:19 |
| ayoung | http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/edit/22 | 18:19 |
| ayoung | you probably can't see that link, as it is an edit, but talk 22 off the summit | 18:20 |
| ayoung | Securing Openstack Deployments with FreeIPA | 18:20 |
| ayoung | http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/22 | 18:20 |
| bdpayne | FreeIPA | 18:20 |
| bdpayne | got it | 18:20 |
| bdpayne | worth exploring… and attending for sure | 18:21 |
| bdpayne | thanks | 18:21 |
| bdpayne | noslzzp you had thoughts on guide content? | 18:21 |
| noslzzp | Yes. | 18:22 |
| bdpayne | #link https://github.com/hyakuhei/OSSG_Hardening_Guide/blob/master/outline-expanded.txt | 18:22 |
| noslzzp | in the enhanced outline, there are sections for individual OpenStack components and then sections on general security areas. | 18:22 |
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| noslzzp | I'm not sure how to efficiently present/cover the two. | 18:23 |
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| bdpayne | I actually think you did a reasonably good job with your outline in that regard | 18:24 |
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| bdpayne | starting with an overview | 18:24 |
| noslzzp | I think maybe we cover each component and then have best practices for the more general areas. | 18:24 |
| bdpayne | some details of how we think about security… setting the tone | 18:24 |
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| bdpayne | cover the components | 18:24 |
| bdpayne | and then cover the cross component security areas | 18:24 |
| bdpayne | and this is what you already have in that outline | 18:25 |
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| bdpayne | what do others think? | 18:25 |
| noslzzp | Yes, it's there already, but I could see that in the "cross-component" areas we could get into specifics related only to one component. Hypervisor security for example. | 18:25 |
| noslzzp | sorry, let me clarify.. In the "System and Communication Security", there could be hype visor only issues. | 18:26 |
| bdpayne | yeah, but that's ok | 18:26 |
| noslzzp | ok. | 18:26 |
| bdpayne | for example, hypervisor != nova | 18:27 |
| bdpayne | and I think it muddies the waters a bit to try to blend it all | 18:27 |
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| bdpayne | so, in the nova section we can talk about nova stuff specifically… and then in then reference down to the hypervisor section to discuss stuff there | 18:27 |
| noslzzp | Fair enough. :) | 18:27 |
| * bdpayne hopes markdown is expressive enough to provide cross section links :-) | 18:28 | |
| bdpayne | btw, this is the markdown you have in mind, right? http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax | 18:28 |
| noslzzp | That's what I was thinking at least.. and yes, it supports internal linking. | 18:29 |
| bdpayne | ok cool | 18:29 |
| bdpayne | I'm just giving you a hard time since I'm a latex snob ;-) | 18:29 |
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| noslzzp | no worries. | 18:29 |
| bdpayne | ok, thanks all | 18:29 |
| bdpayne | I'll work on the action items… and see you guys back here next week. Please check in on the hardening guide and start thinking about where you could contribute content. | 18:30 |
| bdpayne | #endmeeting | 18:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 28 18:30:51 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2013/openstack_security_group.2013-02-28-18.00.html | 18:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2013/openstack_security_group.2013-02-28-18.00.txt | 18:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2013/openstack_security_group.2013-02-28-18.00.log.html | 18:30 |
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| lifeless | sdague: o/ | 19:45 |
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| sdague | lifeless: yo | 20:05 |
| sdague | a bit late for the tempest meeting, better channel to chat on? | 20:05 |
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| lifeless | sdague: -qa? | 20:08 |
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| sdague | sure | 20:16 |
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| vishy | is everyone ready for a nova meeting! | 21:00 |
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| * russellb barely made it | 21:00 | |
| russellb | but yes! | 21:00 |
| dansmith | I am | 21:00 |
| dripton | more exciting than watching unit tests run | 21:01 |
| russellb | dripton: not necessarily a glowing endorsement | 21:01 |
| vishy | #startmeeting nova | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 28 21:01:47 2013 UTC. The chair is vishy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:01 |
| vishy | #chair russellb | 21:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: russellb vishy | 21:01 |
| vishy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 21:02 |
| vishy | #info no specific agenda for today | 21:02 |
| vishy | so we might as well look at bugs | 21:02 |
| vishy | #topic Bugs | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:02 | |
| russellb | only 9 new bugs, nice | 21:03 |
| vishy | we were down to zero | 21:03 |
| vishy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 21:03 |
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| dansmith | ooh, I see one in there that is probably for me | 21:04 |
| russellb | "I am able to create an instance in a project by using a private image id" | 21:04 |
| dansmith | oh, heh, no it's folsom | 21:04 |
| russellb | not marked as security, sigh. | 21:04 |
| alexpilotti | I guess I won one as well >/( | 21:04 |
| russellb | probably not a bug though | 21:04 |
| russellb | hopefully just confusion, running as admin | 21:04 |
| vishy | russellb: that one is very confusing | 21:05 |
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| vishy | it looks like glance and nova have a different interpretation of white private is | 21:05 |
| russellb | yeah trying to read through it, more confused as i go | 21:05 |
| vishy | but the title is not clear | 21:05 |
| vishy | anyway looks like we are doing pretty well with triaging | 21:06 |
| vishy | so it is mostly fixing | 21:06 |
| vishy | and validating. we have a lot of probably invalid open bugs | 21:06 |
| dansmith | I've been fixing, but comstud keeps -2'ing them | 21:06 |
| comstud | lol | 21:06 |
| russellb | 602 open | 21:06 |
| russellb | wonder how low we can get it during rc time | 21:06 |
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| russellb | during the release meeting tuesday markmc mentioned a bug squash day ... should we have one? or multiple? | 21:07 |
| vishy | so one effort that could use some help is just to go through those and close as many as possible | 21:07 |
| vishy | and target important ones to rc-1 | 21:07 |
| vishy | I've targeted a bunch to rc-1 already https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:07 |
| sdague | yeh, seems like a weekly bug day at least might be nice to drive some energy into it | 21:08 |
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| russellb | casual nick bug squash fridays? | 21:08 |
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| dansmith | russellb: is that like a pizza and chocolate milkshake? | 21:09 |
| dansmith | two good things that shouldn't necessarily mix? | 21:09 |
| russellb | sure | 21:09 |
| russellb | see, you change your nick so less people can find you to distract you from fixing bugs | 21:09 |
| dansmith | ah | 21:09 |
| timello | heh | 21:09 |
| rmk | Is everything assigned at this point? | 21:10 |
| vishy | lets try it out | 21:10 |
| dansmith | those of you with homonym casual nicks aren't as inconspicuous as the rest of us I guess | 21:10 |
| vishy | rmk: assigned? | 21:10 |
| rmk | My phone is on edge or I'd check | 21:10 |
| russellb | tons open and unassigned | 21:10 |
| sdague | yes, we assigned all 602 to you rmk | 21:10 |
| rmk | Sweet | 21:10 |
| sdague | that's what you get for showing up late :) | 21:10 |
| vishy | there are plenty of unassigned bugs here rmk: https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:10 |
| rmk | I'll need a lot of coffee and hot pockets | 21:10 |
| rmk | Nods I was trying to load that link on edge on my phone which was a big fail | 21:11 |
| russellb | hot pockets? *cringe* | 21:11 |
| vishy | #topic Blueprints | 21:11 |
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| rmk | It was a reference to a bad movie | 21:11 |
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| vishy | we have a couple of blueprints that are close to being finished | 21:11 |
| vishy | sdague: status on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/migration-testing-with-data ? | 21:12 |
| sdague | vishy: I need to assess, I feel like we've got a couple more data tests that should be in there | 21:12 |
| sdague | I'll do that tomorrow | 21:12 |
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| sdague | I'll carve off specific bugs for any tests that are left, and we can track it that way | 21:12 |
| vishy | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-api-samples has two more patches before it is complete: https://review.openstack.org/22222 and https://review.openstack.org/22994 | 21:12 |
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| dansmith | vishy: those two bug fixes of mine need to go in before attach-interfaces is really working | 21:15 |
| dansmith | vishy: not sure if that's already been closed or not | 21:15 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1131264,n,z | 21:15 |
| vishy | dansmith: its ok | 21:15 |
| comstud | just don't less them up | 21:15 |
| comstud | mess | 21:15 |
| vishy | they are bugs :) | 21:15 |
| * comstud screwed up the joke | 21:15 | |
| dansmith | comstud: -2 for you! | 21:15 |
| dansmith | vishy: I know, just saying' | 21:15 |
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| vishy | any other points on blueprints | 21:17 |
| vishy | do we have any other Features that we missed that need an exception? | 21:17 |
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| vishy | i will take that as a no | 21:18 |
| vishy | #topic Open Discussion | 21:18 |
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| vishy | anything else to discuss? | 21:18 |
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| sdague | nothing from me, just off fixing bugs | 21:19 |
| russellb | nothing here | 21:19 |
| * russellb plans to focus on bugs tomorrow | 21:19 | |
| vishy | good deal | 21:20 |
| vishy | ok then | 21:20 |
| russellb | guess i can send an email about bug squash fridays | 21:20 |
| rmk | I plan to focus on features to re-break all the bugs russellb resolves | 21:20 |
| sdague | russellb: ++ | 21:20 |
| dripton | Now that we're in feature freeze isn't every day bug squash day? | 21:20 |
| dansmith | yeah, I'm confused | 21:20 |
| sdague | rmk: you'll get to give russellb a lot of exercise with his -2 ban hammer | 21:20 |
| dansmith | that's all I've been doing :) | 21:20 |
| rmk | damn forgot about that | 21:21 |
| rmk | dansmith: I think some folks are plowing forward with havana-targetted features | 21:21 |
| dansmith | rmk: shame on them! | 21:21 |
| russellb | dansmith: that's because you're awesome | 21:21 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:21 |
| comstud | dansmith: I've increased my votes on 2 of your reviews by 4 points each. | 21:21 |
| russellb | bug squash fridays is more of a marketing thing to me in a way ... drawing more attention to the fact that bugs should be a focus | 21:22 |
| dansmith | comstud: yeah, was wondering if you picked the wrongly-signed "2", but thanks :) | 21:22 |
| comstud | gj | 21:22 |
| sdague | yeh, I think the marketting is a good call | 21:22 |
| comstud | haha | 21:22 |
| russellb | and for people that can't do it all week (internal responsibilities or whatever) it's a time that people can try to meet up at the same time to spend at least some time on it | 21:22 |
| russellb | i think i said a dirty word (marketing) and everyone ran away | 21:24 |
| sdague | heh | 21:25 |
| vishy | ok i guess we're done | 21:26 |
| vishy | thanks everyone! | 21:26 |
| vishy | #endmeeting nova | 21:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 28 21:26:22 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2013/nova.2013-02-28-21.01.html | 21:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2013/nova.2013-02-28-21.01.txt | 21:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2013/nova.2013-02-28-21.01.log.html | 21:26 |
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| zykes- | vishy: yo, you're at the "titan" team no ? | 21:35 |
| vishy | ? | 21:35 |
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| vishy | no | 21:35 |
| zykes- | vishy: wasn't the titan team the guys from anso ? | 21:35 |
| vishy | no | 21:36 |
| vishy | and i no longer work at RAX | 21:36 |
| zykes- | oh | 21:36 |
| zykes- | where you at ? | 21:36 |
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| zykes- | ah, nebula! | 21:39 |
| westmaas | zykes-: whatcha need from "titan"? | 21:52 |
| westmaas | i guess nothing :) | 21:53 |
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