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primeministerphyper-v meeting is following utc time today14:58
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ibendid I miss the meeting again?15:12
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pnavarroiben: no, you didn't15:13
pnavarroit's in 47 min15:13
ibenoh -wait15:14
ibenI was looking for hyper-v nova - which meeting is in 45 min?15:14
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pnavarroiben: hyper-v one15:16
ibenokay - great!15:16
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ibeni guess the time change here did not affect the UTC start time of the meeting so I get an extra hour this morning!15:16
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ibenI need to update my outlook calendar invite!!! FTW15:17
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primeministerpiben: it's a utc daylight savings issue15:19
primeministerpiben: 35 min15:19
ibenyes - right on peter - very cool beans.15:19
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ibenOutlook is still trying to figure out how to deal with this. - how do you enter that in your calendar?15:20
ibenmaybe I need to try google calendar.  ha ha15:20
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ibendoes anyone know if there's an openstack project / meeting for baremetal provisioning?15:23
ibenpxe-boot and such?15:23
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ibendoes meetings = projects?15:24
annegentleiben: not really15:25
primeministerpiben: pretty much15:25
annegentleiben: bare metal is usually discussed in the nova meeting as needed15:26
ibenthat's what I thought15:26
primeministerpannegentle: whoops guess i'm wrong15:26
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annegentleprimeministerp: heh well more context needed15:28
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annegentleprimeministerp: the answer to the basic question is yes, but for what he was looking for, no15:28
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ibeni guess by project i mean there are a concentrated group of people working on an issue to provide extra features with a release schedule15:29
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ibenthey would probably have meetings for this initiative15:29
ibenthere'd be a leader15:29
ibenand a sponsor15:29
ibenand there'd be people who are interested in what's going on15:29
ibenkind of like this rule - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture)15:30
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ibenbut if bare metal is a subtopic of the nova project and it only comes up once in a while i wonder how much is being done with it15:31
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ibenI will try to move from the 90% to the 9% to find the 1% guy that is maybe working on it15:32
ibenThe "90–9–1" version of this rule states that 1% of people create content, 9% edit or modify that content, and 90% view the content without contributing.15:32
annegentleiben: yep. I can connect you15:32
annegentleiben: Devananda van der Veen is the lead15:33
annegentledevananda: around?15:33
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devanandaannegentle: sorta15:39
annegentledevananda: just wanting to introduce iben to you, interested in bare metal provisioning15:40
devanandai'm on airpor wifi, just got off a plane15:40
* annegentle just now realized we're in openstack-meeting, oh well15:40
devanandaiben: hi!15:40
devanandaiben: to answer a few questions i see in scrollback...15:41
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devanandano, there's not a separate baremetal meeting. we occasionally discuss it in #nova meeting15:41
devanandathe baremetal driver is a subtopic of nova, since all the code lives in nova/nova/virt/baremetal (well, most of it)15:41
devanandawe talk about it a lot in #tripleo15:41
devanandain the context of openstack-on-openstack15:42
devanandawhich is a broader thing than just baremetal provisioning15:42
devanandaHTH :)15:42
ibenright on - well - I'm looking for the current status of baremetal and seeing how I can help track / improve on that15:43
ibenwe have some customers looking into bare metal automation here15:43
ibenso I wanted to point them in the right direction15:43
devananda#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Baremetal15:44
ibenthere are commercial implementaions of openstack that handle this in various methods but they are hardware specific and not really "open"15:44
devananda#link https://github.com/tripleo/incubator/blob/master/README.md15:44
ibenawesome! thanks so much - i saw these but wasn't sure if they were active or not15:45
devanandayea... we're driving to make this open and provide a vendor-agnositc set of tools, which also support plugging in vendor extensions where desired15:45
ibenit is good to know15:45
devanandathese are *very* active15:45
devanandaor rather, we are very active... heh...15:45
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ibeni see!   devananda 7 days ago Add link to baremetal wiki15:45
iben5 contributors15:45
devanandaiben: we have 3 presentations at the summit already approived, and possibly as many as 10 design sessions15:45
devanandaaround baremetal, openstack-on-openstack, and heat / orchestration of baremetal deployments15:46
ibenoh wow - I will get there early for those15:46
ibenthanks again15:46
devananda#link https://github.com/stackforge/diskimage-builder15:46
devanandalast piece -- the tool we use to build baremetal machine images15:46
devanandathe wiki needs lots of work still, fwiw. i'm just swamped with conferences right now ....15:47
ibenyup. I can imagine.15:47
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devanandaanything else before i go catch a bus? :)15:48
ibennope #iben-is-outta-here15:48
devanandacheers! o/15:48
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primeministerpdevananda: we should prob talk then too15:50
ibenPeter - there's probably a lot of opportunities for us to help each other here.15:50
primeministerpdevananda: i've been doing a ton around automating windows that could probably be reused15:50
primeministerpiben: yes15:51
primeministerp#startmeeting hyper-v15:56
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 19 15:56:52 2013 UTC.  The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:56
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:56
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v'15:56
primeministerpociuhandu: you alive?15:57
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primeministerpso couple updates from alessandro who is unavailable to join15:59
primeministerpLive migration with Volumes is fixed15:59
primeministerpalso pnavarro thanks for the bugfix effort last week15:59
primeministerpit also seems that the rdp-console proxy/dashboard is well underway and should be available for demo at the summit16:00
primeministerper dashboard integration16:00
primeministerpthere were also some other minor bug fixes as well16:01
primeministerpiben: anything you would like to discuss16:01
primeministerpiben: i started the process of cleaning my puppet bits16:01
primeministerpiben: to hopefully add them to the puppetforge16:01
primeministerpiben hopefully in the next few days I'll make the available for consumption16:02
luis_fdezprimeministerp: a lot of work there :)16:02
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primeministerpcern folks are also interested in the hyper-v/windows specific bits16:02
primeministerpluis_fdez: o perfect16:02
primeministerpluis_fdez: did you get my last email16:02
primeministerpluis_fdez: as I mentioned, the windows bits don't really fit into the existing model16:03
primeministerpluis_fdez: mostly due to the windowsness16:03
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luis_fdezI know... but as a long-term goal... i would be ideal to have everything mixed... but I supposed the first steps must be done sepparatlely16:03
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ibenhey team - is this list up to date? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix16:04
primeministerpluis_fdez: were you thinking of extending the existing modules to support windows16:04
primeministerpluis_fdez: yes16:04
primeministerpluis_fdez: so that being said16:04
primeministerpiben: yes16:04
primeministerpiben: from a hyper-v perspective16:04
primeministerpiben: i updated it a few weeks back16:04
primeministerpluis_fdez: my goal is put my bits on the forge anyway16:04
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luis_fdezprimeministerp: thanks, that will be a great contribution... as windows support is quite poor...16:05
primeministerpluis_fdez: I also have bits to generate custom winpe pxe bits16:05
luis_fdezi think the biggest drawback is always the package manager16:05
primeministerpluis_fdez: yes16:05
primeministerpluis_fdez: it sucks16:05
ociuhanduprimeministerp: alive and squeezing my brain on c++ and python integration16:06
primeministerpluis_fdez: now that puppet 3 has support for package = exe16:06
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primeministerpluis_fdez:  it'a  bit better16:06
ibenluis_fdez: for those of us that don't know - what are you working on?16:06
primeministerpociuhandu: i'm going to work on that16:06
primeministerpiben: luis_fdez works for cern16:06
primeministerpluis_fdez: he's in the process of preparing to deploy hyper-v16:06
primeministerpluis_fdez: I'll try to get those out this week then16:07
primeministerpluis_fdez: although I started a complete refactor16:07
luis_fdezok, thanks primeministerp16:07
primeministerpociuhandu: had one the first refactor of my original bits16:07
primeministerpnow i'm cleaning up those to conform to puppet 316:07
primeministerpluis_fdez: and hopefully get it to completely build from source16:08
luis_fdezI also need to get up to speed with puppet...16:08
primeministerpluis_fdez: I also have all my unattend.xml generation puppetized16:08
primeministerpluis_fdez: goal is to release all my provising kungfu16:08
luis_fdezthat sounds really interesting16:08
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luis_fdezi'm thinking how could I mix it with automated image creation16:09
primeministerpluis_fdez: all possible16:10
pnavarroups sorry16:10
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pnavarroI forgot to go in16:10
luis_fdezhehe, of course primeministerp  :)16:10
primeministerpluis_fdez: i'm using it for all baremetal deployments as well as base image creation16:10
primeministerpluis_fdez: I'll keep you posted on that16:10
luis_fdezok primeministerp, thanks16:11
primeministerppnavarro: anything you want to add16:11
primeministerppnavarro: about the bugfixes last week?16:11
primeministerpo, re: summit16:11
primeministerpwe have session16:11
luis_fdeznot, working on that, contributing a bit to puppet, i'm implementing some missing facts for windows16:11
primeministerpAlex was also added as a presenter16:11
primeministerpluis_fdez: i just wrote a bunch of facts as well16:12
primeministerpluis_fdez: basic ones16:12
pnavarronot really, primeministerp...16:12
primeministerpluis_fdez: for system variables16:12
primeministerppnavarro: ok16:12
luis_fdezok primeministerp16:12
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primeministerpluis_fdez: let me know if jan wants to have a call16:12
luis_fdezok primeministerp16:12
primeministerpluis_fdez: i'd like to get a bit more organized around this16:12
luis_fdezhe will :)16:13
primeministerpluis_fdez: if i put it out sooner than later we can work together on the rest16:13
primeministerpluis_fdez: i know iben is also interested16:13
luis_fdezyeah, it think it will make it easier16:13
primeministerpluis_fdez: that will be my goal for this week16:14
primeministerpthen to try to get those out16:14
pnavarroluis_fdez: are you going to the summit?16:14
luis_fdezno, Jan and Belmiro, I'll be at Hepix16:14
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primeministerpanything else?16:15
luis_fdezprimeministerp: ype16:15
primeministerpiben: ?16:15
luis_fdezprimeministerp: about snapshoting of windows guests16:16
primeministerpluis_fdez: is there bug?16:16
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primeministerpluis_fdez: what's the issue?16:16
luis_fdezprimeministerp: no, but I was wondering what could be the best way of snapshotting windows guests... and notifying them to be generalize or what is the first boot and thinks like that16:17
primeministerpluis_fdez: you'll have to sysprep them16:17
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luis_fdezbecause now... if I snapshot a windows machine joined to domain with a concrete name... the following instances... will be the same... and I'm not sure about the best way of dealing with that16:17
ibenthere is a whole sysprep process to prepare a windows image16:17
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luis_fdezprimeministerp: I know... I know... but how to trigger it during snapshoting an image?16:18
primeministerpluis_fdez: you have to run it before snapshotting16:18
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primeministerpluis_fdez: same as if you were generating custom windows images for deployment16:18
ibenso you have a running machine you want to clone into an image for use by others?16:18
ibennormally the machine to be used as a template image is shutdown during the sysprep proecess16:19
primeministerpluis_fdez: i'm assuming your trying to take existing windows images16:19
primeministerpluis_fdez: from openstack16:19
luis_fdeznot really, i'm thinking in general... because if I want to do it in an automated way I'm not sure how to do it...16:19
primeministerpluis_fdez: so16:20
primeministerpluis_fdez: you need to have the domain join16:20
primeministerpluis_fdez: as part of the sysprep starting process16:20
primeministerpluis_fdez: you can apply unattend.xml for those parts16:20
primeministerpduring the sysprep16:21
primeministerpluis_fdez: it can get complicated16:21
primeministerpluis_fdez: i'm actually using puppet to have them join the domain, etc16:21
luis_fdezno, I know that but ummm.... is it possible for a running vm to detect that he's going to be snapshoted?16:21
primeministerpluis_fdez: not that i know of16:22
primeministerpluis_fdez: and you can't really use a snapshot16:22
primeministerpluis_fdez: you have to down the vm16:22
primeministerpand take the vhd16:22
primeministerpluis_fdez: would be the clean way16:22
primeministerpluis_fdez: if you snapshot16:22
primeministerpluis_fdez: i.e. run sysprep, with all the necessary bits16:22
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primeministerpthen snapshot16:23
primeministerpyou still need a restart somewhere in there16:23
ibenso - I know that vmware convertor can snapshot a running windows vm as long as vmware tools is installed16:23
ibenit uses the vss driver16:23
primeministerpiben: we can snapshot w/ hyper-v too16:23
primeministerpiben: however don't know if its the best way to create master images16:23
ibenthe destination is a vmware vmdk image which can be converted to a ovf or ova16:24
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ibeni'm just saying it's technically possible16:24
primeministerpsure, except we still can't boot those on hyperv16:24
ibenand is commonly done for testing machine conversion16:24
ibenyou can even snapshot and convert a running physical machine to virtual16:25
ibenthat's a p2v16:25
ibenthen there are v2v v2p and p2p16:25
primeministerpthat's so 201016:25
ibeni'm sure depending on the use case there's a way with different tools to get done what you need16:25
luis_fdezit's want I would like to be able to.... use openstack snapshoting to create templates that are automatically syspreped...16:25
primeministerpluis_fdez: you might be able t o16:26
ibenright - so we should write a story about that and work on the process16:26
ibenpeter - where on the openstack interweb would we post this work?16:26
primeministerpluis_fdez: just going to have to figure out the specific task order before snapshotting i assume16:26
primeministerpiben: not sure16:27
primeministerpiben: a wiki page16:27
ibenluis_fdez - if you like I can help you work on this16:28
primeministerpluis_fdez: i haven't needed to do much w/ sysprep lately however this is a key topic16:28
ibenneed to know your environment - can you skype?16:28
primeministerpluis_fdez: iben we could document the process on the wiki16:28
ibenskype me at: ibenrodriguez16:28
primeministerpluis_fdez: iben or in the admin guide16:29
primeministerpi'm sure annegentle might have better suggestions too16:29
luis_fdezno, it's not a priority... I was just thinking about it... sysprep, unattended is not the problem (i'm using it to create the templates automatically) but the process of snapshoting is a bit different16:29
primeministerpluis_fdez: I'll start to look at it16:30
ibenyup - cool - once it's a proven procedure we can post in the admin guide16:30
primeministerpanything else anyone?16:30
annegentleyeah wiki is great for vetting, then post tested stuff to the admin guide16:30
ibenif the snapshot is to be called from the hypervisor or outside the VM it would call the vss driver of the windows server guest vm16:30
primeministerpannegentle: awesome16:30
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luis_fdezprimeministerp: from my side it's all :)16:31
primeministerpiben: vss driver?16:31
ibenthe feature name is called: Host side backup support (VSS)16:32
primeministerpluis_fdez: ok, thx for the input today16:32
primeministerpluis_fdez: i'll keep you posed on my puppet progress16:32
primeministerpwindows specific features?16:32
primeministerpiben: not sure how that applies?16:33
primeministerplet's take it to the hyper-v channel for further discussion16:33
primeministerpI'm going to close the meetign for now16:33
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Mar 19 16:33:41 2013 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:33
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ibenwe want openstack to be able to automate a snapshot call to a windows vm then trigger a sysprep off that snapshot16:33
ibenneed to move to new channel?16:34
primeministerpiben: openstack-hyper-v16:34
ibenis it #openstack-hyper-v16:34
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dwaiteor am I off an hour?17:05
ibendaylight savings17:05
ibenoutlook messed me up since I entered the meeting in local timezone instead of utc17:06
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dwaitecurse you, DST!17:08
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ibenyou need to enter the calendar meeting in utc instead of local time zone17:12
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dwaiteaha, I was tricked. The time link on the KeystoneMeeting page is actually a link to March 5, 2013, when we were still on standard time :)17:16
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topoldwaite, next week will be your week to get it right :-)17:59
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dolphm#startmeeting keystone18:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 19 18:00:08 2013 UTC.  The chair is dolphm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'18:00
dwaitedon't know whether its better to be 55 minutes early or 5 minutes late18:00
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dolphmi totally missed last weeks meeting18:00
dolphmpartly due to time change and partly due to being pulled away from my desk18:00
dolphmanyway, hola everyone18:01
spzalaHi all!18:01
dolphmheckj: thanks for sticking around :)18:01
dolphmhenrynash: /salute18:01
henrynashlikwwise :-)18:01
ayoung#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting18:01
dolphmayoung: thanks :P18:02
henrynashmaybe round cyber-applause is appropriate for Dolph…..and a thank you to Joe18:02
dolphm#topic RC1 bugs18:02
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dolphm#link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-rc118:02
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dolphmlol thanks everyone18:03
ayoungthanks to everyone involved.  dolphm I especailly thnk you for taking on the additional work that I have no desire to do, and henrynash for being willing to do so18:03
dolphmayoung: appreciated18:03
ayoungdolphm, before we do that list, can we take a quick scan through the open bugs to see if there is anything that should be on there that isn't?18:03
dolphmayoung: so, i ran through the remaining bugs this morning, i didn't see anything that should block RC18:04
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gyeedolphm, I think we still have a bug on the v2 v3 intermix for non default domains18:05
ayoungdolphm, wasthat before or after I noticed the timeout isssue?18:05
gyeebut I need to confirm first18:05
dolphmif anyone is aware of a bug that is not targetted toward RC1 that should be, please mention it / tag it / target it / etc18:05
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dolphmayoung: i assume before18:05
dolphmgyee: another bug?18:05
gyeewe shouldn't be able to validate token using v2 for non default domains18:05
dolphmgyee: +118:05
gyeedolphm, I need to confirm it first18:05
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dolphmthe response to such a request wouldn't make sense on v2 / would cause issues with clients depending on tenant name, etc18:06
bknudsonI'd like to see this one fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/109218718:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1092187 in keystone "LDAP implementation incomplete for User Groups" [Undecided,In progress]18:06
gyeedolphm, I am also concerned with Swift ACLs and nova client migration18:06
gyeenovarc is using tenant name instead of tenant ID18:06
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bknudsonbecause without it, LDAP identity backend returns 501 Not Implemented for authentication18:06
dolphmgyee: that's also consuming v2 specifically, correct?18:07
topolbknudson, thats sahdev's I think it got red x'd18:07
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dolphmgyee: so it tenant name would assume default domain18:07
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gyeedolphm, correct, we need figure out a migration path18:07
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dolphmgyee: is there an issue on the keystone side though?18:07
topolsahdev, how close are you on 109218718:07
gyeedolphm, no18:07
spzalabtopol: yes, that's true!18:07
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gyeejust nova and swift migration to consume v318:08
dolphmgyee: my goal for keystoneclient is to assume v3 if a domain is specified, for example... could the same apply there?18:08
spzalabtopol: I believe it's done.18:08
topolsahdev, are you done with 1092187?18:08
dolphmbug 109218718:08
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1092187 in keystone "LDAP implementation incomplete for User Groups" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109218718:08
topolsahdev, OK18:08
topolso code is there for review. dolphm, I believe it was feeling like a feature as opposed to a bug so you red x'd it18:09
dolphmtopol: does this need to block RC1?18:09
dolphmthere's a merge there18:09
topolll let bknudson answer18:10
topolhe's asking for it18:10
bknudsonI don't think it needs to block rc118:10
bknudsonas long as there's another rc or something it can block.18:10
dolphmbknudson: spzala: should a new bug be filed? the current one at least needs to be revised to indicate what's lacking18:10
dolphmbknudson: RC is a potential grizzly release, so that's not really feasible18:11
dolphmbknudson: at least, not a guarantee18:11
spzaladolphm: sure, can do that.18:11
bknudsondolphm: I think the bug says what the problem is... the LDAP implementation isn't complete... since it's not complete something isn't implemented so it returns 501.18:11
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dolphmbknudson: that's super vague though -- what's broken / missing?18:12
bknudsongroups support18:12
spzaladolphm: the bug provides supprt for group crud, add/delete users in group, list groups etc. and also domain crud18:12
bknudsonI don't have a problem with a new bug18:12
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ayoungAh..yeah.  Groups.18:12
ayoungI thought we had acked that a long time ago.18:13
gyeeLDAP is natural for groups :)18:13
dolphmthe current ldap solution is sufficient for v2 controllers, correct?18:13
topoldolphm, yes I believe so.  At least all the live regressions ldap tests run thanks to crazed18:13
spzalaayoung: this is one is for LDAP.  The group support was done for sql and kvs.18:13
topoldolphm, and all the v2 controller stuff already worked18:14
dolphmi'd vote for shipping grizzly without ldap support for v3, it's a bit late to "fix" that18:14
bknudsonWhen I configure the LDAP backend using devstack, I get 501 Not Implemented from keystone token-get.18:15
dolphmbknudson: know which driver call is triggering that, specifically?18:15
gyeebknudson, LDAP is meant for highly static data18:15
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gyeetoken is not static data18:15
dolphmi don't think a backtrace would be logged specifically18:15
dolphmgyee: there is no token driver for ldap, but auth consumes identity_api which is implemented by ldap18:16
dolphmany driver call there could cause a 50118:16
gyeedolphm, there shouldn't be18:16
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gyeetoken is not static data and shouldn't be stored in LDAP18:16
ayoungspzala, I was referringto LDAP specifically18:16
bknudsondolphm: I'll look for the function, I was just trying this yesterday.18:16
dolphmgyee: agree18:16
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ayoungspzala, the issue was how users are assigned, and what objectclass to use18:16
spzalaayoung: :) Ah...18:17
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spzalaayoung: yes18:17
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ayoungspzala, so if we use groupOfName, users go in member, but some of the LDAP servers won't allow the roles to be assigned under it18:17
ayoungalternative was to use OU18:17
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spzalaayoung: hmmm... the fix I have submitted for review is using groupOfName18:18
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ayoungI think the review for that closed long enough ago due to a -1 that it is off the report...let me see if I can find it18:18
dolphmi'd like to have a patch *ready* to be merged to grizzly, and then ask ttx for permission -- this blurring the lines between bug and feature freeze extension18:18
spzalaayoung: OK  #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22624/18:18
dolphmspzala: apparently i'm already blocking it :P18:19
ayounghow am I not on that one?18:19
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spzaladolphm: :) yes18:19
dolphmspzala: is this ready to merge & satisfy ldap support for v3, in your opinion?18:19
gyeedolphm, what's the deadline for rc1?18:19
dolphmgyee: asap18:19
spzalaayoung: ah, sorry about that.18:19
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dolphm#link http://old-wiki.openstack.org/release/rc/18:19
dolphmthe race to rc1 ^ :)18:19
spzaladolphm: yes, I think so. I have tested it with fake and real ldap18:20
dolphmspzala: appreciated18:20
gyeelets do this!18:20
spzaladolphm: no problem!18:20
dolphmttx: do i need to ping you on list for ultra late FFE or can i drag you into our meeting?18:20
ayoungspzala, that might work for OpenLDAP.  Won't work for AD18:20
spzalaayoung: I didn't realize about it18:20
spzalaayoung: but adding you as reviewer now18:20
ayoungspzala, I think that is near to identical to an Nack review...looking18:20
ayoungspzala, already did18:21
gyeewhoever uses AD will have to pay the consultants :)18:21
spzalaayoung: :) that was quick. Thanks!18:21
dolphm#action dolphm to ask for FFE for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22624/18:21
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topolayoung, does he just need to change an objectclass choice for AD?18:22
ayoungTHis should be brought back to life, BTW.  spzala want to take it?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22558/18:22
dolphm#action gyee to test for non-default domain token validation on v218:22
ayoungtopol, define the word "just"18:22
spzalaayoung: sure18:22
gyeedolphm, I should have that done today18:23
dolphmgyee: awesome18:23
topolayoung, Im missing something.  What would need to change?18:23
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dolphm#topic RC blocker: domain validation18:24
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dolphm#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24753/18:24
dolphmhenrynash: just want to check in on status18:24
ayoungtopol, looking.  THis might have been resolved...I remember the problem, but not if we came to a solution...18:24
bknudsonRunning in the debugger, the exception is thrown from /opt/stack/keystone/keystone/identity/core.py(581)list_groups_for_user()18:24
dolphmhenrynash: any issues, need help, etc?18:24
bknudsonkeystone.token.controllers _get_group_metadata_ref() calls self.identity_api.list_groups_for_user,18:24
bknudsonand the LDAP backend doesn't implement list_groups_for_user18:24
henrynashdolphm: so main one I am working on is Big 113023618:24
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henrynashbug 113023618:24
dolphmbug 113023618:24
bknudsondolphm: ^ that's what's missing, list_groups_for_user.18:24
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1130236 in keystone "Domains are not validated on authentication" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113023618:24
topolayoung, I thought you and Jose agreed on the schema and put it in a blueprint18:24
ayoungtopol, sounds right...I haven't thought about this in a while, and wasn't tracking it actively18:25
henrynashdophm: just struggling to get various tests to function, although found a few interesting issues along the way18:25
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dolphmhenrynash: can you post a revised WIP? i should have time to poke at it later today as well18:26
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henrynash(e.g. we don't to a copy when we do a get from our kvs backend…so you can change the values without doing a set!_18:26
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henrynashdolphm: yes, will do tonight18:26
henrynashdolphm: in fact, I;ll do it in the next 30 mins18:26
topolayoung, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/ldap-groups18:26
dolphmhenrynash: awesome18:26
ayoungtopol, thank you, launchpad was mocking me18:27
henrynashdolphm: two other bugs on my list I am suggesting we don't fix.18:27
henrynashbug 115364518:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1153645 in keystone "Deleting a role should revoke any tokens associated with it" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115364518:27
henrynashworking around is that if you remove a rol form someone explicitly, then we DO revoke tokens18:27
henrynashits just deleting the role itself, that doesn't revoke18:28
henrynashbug 112504618:28
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1125046 in keystone "Downward migration from separate domain name spaces can cause name clashes" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112504618:28
dolphmhenrynash: i'm thinking that should be marked as a public security issue18:28
henrynashdolphm: probably tru…we definitely fix it as soon as possible, just don;t think its an rc1 blocker18:29
dolphmthe downward migration one probably shouldn't block rc either18:29
henrynashdolphn: agreed18:30
ayoungspzala, OK I am back tracking.  If the powers that be are OK with pushing in groups for LDAP, I can ACK the review...I need to look a little closer at it before formally doing so, but the approach looks OK18:30
henrynashgyee: here's one we could clear up: bug 115407218:30
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1154072 in keystone "Auth_token middleware should cope with no response from "Get versions"" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115407218:30
dolphmayoung: does bug 1153645 overlap with one you filed?18:30
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1153645 in keystone "Deleting a role should revoke any tokens associated with it" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115364518:30
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ayoungdolphm, no, mine was token to token18:30
spzalaayoung: OK, sounds great. Thanks!18:30
dolphmayoung: cast your review vote for ldap groups -- i'd like to have two +2's on it with my -2 before i bug ttx18:31
henrynashgyee: I made a comment on it for you….as to whether we really need this….if not, let's abandon18:31
ayoungdolphm, I thought we already delete all tokens upon removing a role18:31
gyeehenrynash, sure18:31
dolphmayoung: so we can switch to approve with permission asap18:31
henrynashayoung: we should, that;s the bug :-)18:31
ayoungdolphm, will do...18:31
gyeehenrynash, we probably don't need it as long as we have away to override18:31
ayounghenrynash, so we bypass the controller when removing the roles from the user, don't we?18:32
dolphmhenrynash: can you mark that as a public security issue -- i don't see an option for that on launchpad, but i know you can18:32
henrynashgyee: we have the override18:32
dolphmayoung: thanks18:32
gyeehenrynash, I am OK with closing it as by design18:32
henrynashayoung: so remove a role from a user is fine…I have covered that18:32
henrynashayoung: the problem is if you just do a "role delete"18:33
henrynashgyee: ok, will do18:33
ayounghenrynash, I know.18:33
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henrynashdolphm: ok ,will do18:33
ayoungspzala, have you tested your changes with liveldap?  You should be18:34
spzalaayoung: I tested with openldap installation18:34
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dolphmhenrynash: thanks18:34
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dolphm#topic keystone.middlware.auth_token support18:35
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spzalaayoung: the way I tested was with openldap with real config data in the backend_ldap.conf18:35
dolphm#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-March/006706.html18:35
ayoungspzala, did you run the _ldap_livetest suite?18:35
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dolphmi pinged the list about this -- i have two fixes in review... one cheap & easy but requiring configuration changes, and the other providing a hacky solution to maintain support (patch WIP and broken at the moment)18:36
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spzalaayoung: no :( I did it with openldap data via backend_ldap.conf. Thought that's the best way but will run _livetest suite just in few.18:36
dolphmjust wanted to mention it here -- it's a RC blocker and i'm certainly open to creative solutions18:36
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topolayoung, would spzala need to pull down crazed liveldap patch to be successful18:37
ayoungspzala, rebase on master and you should get the fixed tests18:37
ayoungtopol, thought that merged?18:37
spzalatopol: thanks, good point.18:37
dolphmgyee: chmouel: markmc: thanks for reviews18:37
gyeedolphm, I think we can just throw an exception when attempting to import keystone.middleware.auth_token18:37
topolayoung did it?18:37
spzalaayoung: OK, that sounds good.18:37
gyeeor make it a warning18:37
dolphmgyee: we actually can't18:37
dolphmgyee: i replied to your comment with a bit of an explanation, but the backtrace in the bug would be hit before you ever had a chance to log anything18:38
gyeethey'll need to make the change anyway18:38
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ayoungspzala, running now...I'll post a rebased patch after the tests run18:38
topoldolphm,  it sounded like you had two options, one was a bandaid that would hide the issue and the other was a needed change to the paste config. Is that correct?18:38
dolphmyep, but as a community we've also agreed to maintain backwards compatibility for config options for a couple releases before removing them18:38
spzalaayoung: great, thanks.18:39
dolphmtopol: yes, exactly18:39
dolphmneeds config change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24251/18:39
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dolphmbandaid to suppress the issue: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24701/18:39
dolphmthe second review is broken -- i wrote it without being able to test it in devstack, i'm working through those issues today, but you can see the intention in the review18:39
gyeeif we need to maintain backward compat for 2 releases then the choice is obvious18:39
dolphmgyee: if i can get (B) to work lol18:40
topoldolphm, I agree.  From a serviceability perspective changing the config file was bad.   doing problem determination will take time (hard to figure out the problem from the trace) so even if its just a config change the serviceability cost will be high18:40
dolphmit's going to be an elaborate hack18:40
topoldolphm, it seemed like the bandaid would not have any serviceability costs and the config file change could add up a lot18:41
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dolphmgyee: if we manage to keep keystone.middleware.auth_token though, i agree, it should totally raise a warning if imported successfully -- i'll do that in the second patch18:41
ayoungtopol, it was approved, but didn't merge...grrr18:41
topolquestions to the email list, questions to OS distributers, and other folks who have to provide serviceability18:41
dolphmtopol: i think the op preference is clear, we just need to make it happen if possible18:42
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topoldolphm, I thought it was easy. I missed something then18:42
topoldolphm, I thought you just swallowed the exception18:43
dolphmtopol: my bandaid breaks in other spectacular ways -- i'm trying to fix18:43
spzalaayoung: OK, I will pull crazed's liveldap patch18:43
dolphmtopol: there are subsequent exceptions18:43
ayoungspzala, wait one and you can get it from gerrit18:43
spzalaayoung: OK, that's cool.18:44
topoldolphm, oh scary. that changes the whole equation18:44
ayoungspzala, I am going to resubmit yours rebased on it18:44
dolphm#action dolphm to try really hard to fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24701/18:44
ayoungspzala, the tests fail...18:44
spzalaayoung: ah :(18:44
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dolphmtopol: i'll try to clean up the final result as best i can18:44
spzalaayoung: hmmm18:44
gyeereally hard? :)18:44
dolphmmake it presentable :P18:44
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dolphmi assume we don't have any other high priority issues that aren't RC blockers, so....18:45
dolphm#topic open discussion18:45
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dolphm15 minutes :)18:45
topolayoung, does spzala have time to debug18:45
topolits usually soemthing small.18:45
ayoungtopol, looking myself...possible test issues and not backend18:45
ayoungtopol, and possible schema issues as we know/18:46
dolphmfor anyone interested -- i'm going to try and review summit topics this week, so if you have one you're thinking about presenting, i'd welcome at least a draft or something on http://summit.openstack.org/18:46
dwaitelooking forward to the havana summit. actually a fair number of people from my company going now18:46
topoldolphm, we will be sending in stuff soon.18:46
ayoungspzala, pull down the latest, and you will get the live test.  I mistrust my implementation enough that I think you should try running them yourself18:46
dwaitedolphm: one question, my proposal includes a lot of groundwork technology to cover, I think that might limit discussion time18:47
dwaiteis there a way to get a slot larger than 40m, or break it into two parts?18:47
gyeedwaite, you can schedule some unconference sessions as well18:47
spzalaayoung: OK, sounds good and thanks for the quick test!18:47
henrynashdolphm: the authentication for disabled domains just got a bit worse….as well as v2 not checking, v3 allows you to authenticated by user_id to a disabled domain(although catches it if you authenticate by user-name)18:48
dolphmdwaite: i'll make a note, but unless that's the point of the discussion (discussing tech options), perhaps request that attending brief themselves on the list of pre-req's and jump straight in?18:48
henrynashbug 113023618:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1130236 in keystone "Domains are not validated on authentication" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113023618:48
dolphmdwaite: ideally provide some links or something18:48
ayoungNO_SUCH_OBJECT: {'matched': 'dc=openstack,dc=org', 'desc': 'No such object'}18:48
ayounglooks legit18:48
ayoungdwaite, its ok, I think there will be enough of us with enough background that we can consume your session.  I really want that one to be in the summit talks18:49
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dwaitedolphm, I can do that. link 'executive overview'-type documents, and provide just enough at the start to level-set and perhaps propose ideas on where the technologies can be leveraged18:49
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ayoungdolphm, as PTL I think you can pre-approve.  heckj can you pass the magic incantations on for that?18:49
dolphmhenrynash: hmm v2 isn't a huge deal because it's only default domain, although it should be checked..18:50
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dolphmhenrynash: does using user_id utilize a whole different code apth?18:50
crazedayoung: any reason that live ldap test after approval failed? i noticed a no such file or directory error from jenkins, but have no insight to what went wrong there18:50
ayoungcrazed, pep8?  Yeah, looks like a merge thing.  I'm trying to push it through now18:50
heckjayoung: dolphm: set log into the side - ttx has already updated it, so I can't pre-approve any longer. You'll see a button hiding off on the side that says something like "review keystone" for the sessions18:50
heckjer /side/site/18:51
henrynashdophm: no it just only looks up the domain if it has to i.e. user-name…fix is quite easy, although, of course, I think it breaks some other tests18:51
crazedayoung: cool thanks18:51
dolphmhenrynash: yeah i saw that and it scared me18:51
ayoungcrazed, tell you what.  I'll tkae care of that, van you help spzala with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22624/1418:51
dolphmheckj: ^ lol18:51
dolphmheckj: there's a hundred more buttons that appeared18:51
henrynashdolphm: I've fixed it my patch, but trying to make sure the other tests work...18:51
dolphmhenrynash: cool18:52
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crazedspzala: what do you need help with?18:55
spzalacrazed: thanks..I am going to pull your code and going to test my stuff with it.. and if I run into something then I may need help :)18:56
dolphmhenrynash: thanks for revising description on bug 113023618:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1130236 in keystone "Domains are not validated on authentication" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113023618:56
henrynashdolphm: np18:56
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topoldolphm, if we have time can you see if I did somehting evil in my latest fix ldap on fedora for devstack patch by including the openldap schema files in the patch?18:57
topolits a license thing im worried about18:58
dolphmtopol: link?18:58
topol https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24764/18:58
dolphmtopol: oh wow, i have no idea18:59
topolafter pushing up the patch I noticed the following preamble:18:59
topol# $OpenLDAP$18:59
topol3## This work is part of OpenLDAP Software <http://www.openldap.org/>.18:59
topol5## Copyright 1998-2011 The OpenLDAP Foundation.18:59
topol6## All rights reserved.18:59
topol8## Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without19:00
topol9## modification, are permitted only as authorized by the OpenLDAP19:00
topol10## Public License.19:00
topol12## A copy of this license is available in the file LICENSE in the19:00
topol13## top-level directory of the distribution or, alternatively, at19:00
topol14## <http://www.OpenLDAP.org/license.html>.19:00
dolphmtopol: less pasting into irc ;)19:00
dolphmswitching to -dev19:00
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topolayoung, when openldap installs on fedora are the schema files placed somewhere and I can just copy from there?19:00
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ayoungtopol, yes, under /etc/openldap/schema19:01
topolayoung, awesome. Ill push a new version19:02
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jeblairhello infra/ci people19:03
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jeblair#startmeeting infra19:04
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 19 19:04:04 2013 UTC.  The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:04
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jeblair#topic actions from last meeting19:04
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jeblairi think we'll give clarkb another week on the new hpcs account, what with him being on vacation and all19:05
jeblair#action clarkb set up new hpcs account with az1-3 access19:05
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fungii'm doubting clarkb or mordred are about19:05
fungiquantal stuff19:05
jeblairfungi: you migrated stackforge projects to quantal; howd that go?19:05
fungiseems fine so far19:05
fungiat this point everything except potentially release-impacting jobs are on quantal if they were preciously precise19:06
jeblairgood, so nothing new we should consider when moving openstack projects19:06
funginothing identified at this point, no19:06
jeblairmy... prrrrrrecious...19:06
fungithanks, gollum19:06
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fungireview needed a rebase after the oslo.config rename19:07
fungiit should be fine at this point, and adds a non-voting shadow for all py26 unit tests on rhel6 slaves19:07
fungiwe have 8 slaves on dprince's account, and he's given some of us his account credentials to do out-of-band things with them as needed19:08
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fungi#link https://review.openstack.org/2436419:08
jeblairfungi: creds in password file?19:08
fungijeblair: no, but i'll add them this afternoon19:09
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fungiwasn't sure if that was appropriate, but i suppose it's the best option19:09
jeblairfungi: yeah, i think so.19:09
jeblairfungi: it's a project resource more or less like the others, for the time being at least19:10
fungiworks for me then19:10
jeblairfungi: did you create a reviewday user?19:10
fungiyep, all set up, stuff that needs to be is added to hiera as well19:10
fungii think pleia2's stuff is very close to ready for merging19:11
jeblairfungi: cool.  maybe leave a note to that effect on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21158/19:11
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fungii did, but that was several patchsets ago now19:11
fungii'll restate it19:11
jeblairoh, sorry, i see it now19:11
jeblairi searched for user.  not account.  :)19:11
fungijust plane mordred again!19:12
jeblairmordred: congrats!19:12
fungioh, no longer plane mordred19:12
jeblairjust plain mordred now19:12
pleia2that's all really for reviewday (don't need to revisit later in the meeting)19:12
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jeblairand the last thing is: we renamed oslo-config19:12
jeblairoslo.config seems to be working so far19:12
fungiand as of yet, no new complaints19:12
jeblairit's our first repo with a dot.19:13
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jeblairthe pypi (or "cheese shop") page has openstackci as a maintainer19:13
jeblaireveryone at pycon was calling it the cheese shop because saying 'pypi' sounds like 'pypy' which is a different thing.19:14
fungiand some very runny gouda19:14
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anteayaI thought because there was none19:14
anteayaa cheese shop without any cheese19:14
fungiyou can't actually tell the customer you have no cheese, anteaya19:15
jeblair#topic gerrit/lp groups19:15
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anteayabut apparently you can waste their time19:15
jeblairerm, it looks like we were all too busy to actually do that this past week19:15
fungiyeah, other than i created several new gerrit groups :/19:15
jeblair#action someone rename -drivers in gerrit to -milestone, and create -ptl groups and give them tag access19:15
jeblairthat's what we decided to do last meeting; hopefully one of us can pick that up soon19:16
jeblair#topic jenkins job logs19:16
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jeblairfungi: ?19:16
fungithey are many19:16
fungistatic.o.o filled up again on sunday19:17
fungiwe've done some dances to free up a few more days of runtime on it19:17
fungicompressing subunit tempfiles, removing pre-folsom-release-day job logs19:17
fungitried to resize the server last night as a short-term bandaid19:18
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fungiit's still on "step 1" right now and i can't cancel it, so presumably i should open a ticket19:18
fungiwe've got a replacement built in rackspace nova with a block volume added19:18
jeblairso it sounds like it's time to start removing old logs; do we want a rolling 6 month window, rolling 12 month, or batch delete after release?19:19
fungidata's rsync'd from the old server, so we're going to refresh that this evening and try to move after a little validation of the content/vhosts19:19
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annegentlefungi: just a thought, can we make the doc gate jobs more specific to only build when files for that doc are updated?19:19
jeblair(i'm thinking rolling 6 month)19:19
annegentle(to try to alleviate filling up static)19:19
fungiannegentle: there is a new feature for zuul to do that i think... jeblair?19:19
jeblairannegentle: i just added a feature to zuul that would let us do that; i worry a little bit about that being fragile...19:20
annegentlefungi: ah ok19:20
jeblairas in, we have to specify in the zuul config which files it should run on19:20
jeblairso if anything changes in the repo, the zuul config would need to be updated to match19:20
jeblairbut if it stays pretty static (ie, we know we'll only care about "docs/*"), that's an option19:21
jeblair(and would mean running fewer needless jobs which is nice for jenkins)19:21
annegentlejeblair: I think it makes sense for docs19:21
jeblairannegentle: ok, let's give it a try19:22
jeblairalso, to be clear, i mean we're solving the space issue the right way which is to get more space19:22
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jeblairso we don't need to scrimp too much; i think annegentle's idea is just good in principle.  :)19:22
fungiyes, and the new server with availability of separate block storage makes this as scalable as we could possibly need for the near future19:22
annegentlejeblair: there will be a copy of all docs to start with, I suppose, but the archiving of old doc builds on drafts is unnecessary once the patch is reviewed19:23
annegentlejeblair: and then only building when a patch indicates the build needs refreshed makes sense too19:23
jeblairannegentle: double +119:23
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fungito simplify retention there, maybe we still use a rolling window for those but at 30 days instead of 180?19:24
jeblairlet's just use 180 across the board19:24
fungithat's certainly simpler still19:24
jeblairit's not unheard of for a patch to take 30 days to merge.  :)19:24
fungiagreed. just trying to avoid "identify checks corresponding to merged changes and purge" logic19:25
jeblairbut let's do rememebr to expire the docs draft too.19:25
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fungii will definitely rememebr19:26
jeblair#topic grenade19:26
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jeblairthere's a non-voting grenade job, but it's failing19:26
fungiit's currently going "boom"19:26
jeblairwe should probably point dtroyer at it so he can take a look19:27
jeblair#link https://jenkins.openstack.org/view/All/job/dev-gate-grenade-devstack-vm/19:27
jeblair#topic gearman19:27
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jeblairzaro, fungi: you're testing something, yah?19:27
fungizaro's the one testing. i'm just mashing buttons for him19:28
zarokinda. testing the gearman plugin19:28
zaroi believe it's pretty much complete.  i mean all the features are there.19:28
jeblairawesome!  so i think that means we're waiting on krow for the queue change in gearmand19:29
zaroi think only thing that doesn't work is updating when executors change.19:29
zaroyes. that too.19:29
jeblairzaro: ok, that's not something we do regularly, so we don't have to wait on the executors thing getting fixed19:29
zaroi don't think he's fixed the problem he had.. CI wasn't happy with him.19:29
jeblairzaro: did you have a puppet patch to install gearman?19:30
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jeblairi think that would be the next thing on our side19:30
jeblairi think we can run it on the zuul server19:30
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zaroi thought we install plugin manually?19:30
jeblairsorry, gearmand19:30
zaroohh yes. there's already one on puppet forge.19:30
zaroi'll figure out how to use it so we can install one for ourselves.19:31
fungiso we'll just need a patch to our openstack-infra/config repo to consume and configure that19:31
mordreddo we have security thoughts for that? ssl tunnel? openvpn?19:31
zaroi'm not sure about naming the server though.19:31
jeblair#action zaro write puppet to run gearmand on zuul.o.o19:31
jeblairzaro: i think we can just colocate it on the server where we run zuul19:32
jeblairmordred: we can use iptables for now19:32
mordredjeblair: *facepalm* of course.19:32
jeblairmordred: that will at least scale up to a handful of jenkins masters19:32
fungiit's tcp so unless we're worried about someone in control of the routers between zuul and jenkins...19:32
zaroany port you prefer?19:32
jeblairmordred: just not the 'no jenkins slaves, only masters' topology19:32
jeblairfungi: not particularly19:33
fungithought not19:33
jeblairzaro: i think there's an iana port for gearman now19:33
zarojeblair: sorry, iana?19:33
jeblair(instead of using the afs3 callback port!)19:33
fungiinternet assigned names/numbers authority19:33
jeblair#link http://gearman.org/protocol19:34
fungi#link http://www.iana.org/19:34
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fungi(for the curious)19:34
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jeblair#topic pypi mirror/requirements19:35
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jeblairi think that's really close19:35
fungii'm excited19:35
jeblairthe new mirror script is running, though outputting to a subdir of the current mirror19:35
jeblair(so we're not using it for builds quite yet)19:36
jeblairi've done a hacky thing by installing a python2.6-only dep into the mirror manually19:36
jeblairbut mordred and i were talking about one more revision to the design:19:36
jeblairwhich is to put the mirror into swift19:36
mordredyup. I believe it will work19:36
mordredalthough obvs. needs some testing :)19:37
jeblairthat _should_ work because we can use the cdn to generate index pages for us19:37
jeblairand we only need one cname added for the mirror19:37
mordredyes. and we don't need the dir structure we use right now19:37
mordredwe can put all th efiles in one dir in swfit and use a single index19:37
jeblairso then we can run the mirror build on multiple platforms and have them all upload to swift easily19:38
jeblairand that should get us the python2.6-only packages19:38
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fungion a related note, we probably ought to scour the slaves looking for other hung puppet processes again, based on the couple we hit in the last 24 hours missing the new mirror-using wrapper scripts19:38
jeblairso i think the plan is: test more things to make sure the new mirror is okay, when it is, switch the builders to using it19:39
fungii'll run a loop over them and check here in a bit in case there are others needing restarts19:39
jeblairthen immediately start work on the swift version of the mirror before the 2.6 problem bites us19:39
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jeblair#topic baremetal testing19:40
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jeblairpleia2: are you getting your questions answered?19:40
pleia2so echohead has been working on the devstack replacement for the baremetal testing here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24273/19:40
mordredjeblair: re: above mirror stuff real quick ...19:41
pleia2it's a lot, but I'm tagging along and working my way through devstack-gate scripts :)19:41
anteayapleia2: go you!19:41
mordredI'd like to inject that after swift-mirror I intend to invesitgate our possible use of hte new wheel format for extra fast goodness19:41
pleia2no active questions right at this moment, but I'll be checking in with devananda regularly as needed19:41
mordredpleia2: awesome19:42
jeblairmordred: oh, yes, and since wheel may contain arch-specific files, we should be prepared for that by having multiple mirror builders19:42
jeblairpleia2: that is a lot of files.19:42
pleia2oh, and speaking of d-g, I updated the docs a bit too so they're less wall-of-text: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24727/19:42
pleia2jeblair: heh, yeah, it's adding the new thing to their image creation script19:43
pleia2which will have to be called by d-g instead of deploying devstack19:43
jeblairpleia2: thanks for that!19:43
jeblair#topic releasing git-review19:44
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fungiwe should, i think19:44
mordredyeah. I think it's about that time19:44
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mordredfungi: is there anything specific I can do to help you with the testing?19:44
fungithere's a lot of bug fixes, error message clarifications, and some new features19:44
fungimordred: it's been getting tested all along at this point19:45
mordredfungi: k. cool.19:45
fungithough i still intend to write up a real non-network-dependent test harness for it19:45
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mordredfungi: can we perhaps land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20452/ before we release?19:45
fungii have a model for how it'll work, just need to do it19:45
mordredfungi: (I'll go fix/finish it)19:45
fungimordred: yes, please19:45
fungiwas wanting you to at least do whatever you wanted to do with that after saper added his input19:46
fungisince he had more or less refactored it down into more exception handling, which clarkb had some design concerns over19:47
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jeblair#topic open discussion19:48
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fungifor a longer than usual agenda, we closed the list out quickly19:48
fungittx: any infra stuff irking you this week?19:49
jeblairwell, 'releasing git-review' didn't turn out to be very contentious.  :)19:49
ttxfungi: nope19:49
ttxfungi: RC time is actually a bit less critical than feature freeze time19:50
jeblairof course release-week is typically when jenkins security updates come out.19:50
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zaroanybody need my help with anything?  i'm just waiting on code reviews and i don't think the gearman install to zuul.o.o will take very long.19:50
ttxAh! i can't wait for that to happen.19:51
* ttx will be back in 70min for the release meeting19:51
fungizaro: i'm doing my best to review your outstanding changes, though java is not my strong suit19:51
pleia2now that reviewday is pretty much done (we'll see in the next hour :)) I could also use a break from learning about d-g and baremetal, so feel free to ping me as needed for tasks19:51
zarofungi: thanks.19:52
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fungihopefully soon we'll get that caught up to the version you're testing on jenkins-dev19:52
zarofungi: if nothing else.  i'll spend some more time adding automated tests to plugin.19:53
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jeblairgoing once...19:54
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jeblairthanks everyone!19:54
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notmynamettx: I've got a conflicting appointment during the meeting today. can I go right after general announcements, please?20:41
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ttxnotmyname: sure20:47
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bcwaldonttx: hey hey21:00
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ttxheckj/dolphm, notmyname, jgriffith, vishy/russellb, gabrielhurley, danwent/markmcclain: around ?21:00
ttxmarkmc: o/21:01
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ttxok let's start21:02
ttx#startmeeting project21:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 19 21:02:09 2013 UTC.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'project'21:02
ttxAgenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting21:02
ttxToday we'll look into progress towards RC production, which is summarized in a graph at:21:02
ttx#link http://status.openstack.org/release/rc/21:02
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ttxThe goal being to publish at least RC1 for every project this week21:02
ttx#topic General announcements21:03
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ttxDesign summit session planning is in full swing at:21:03
ttx#link http://summit.openstack.org/21:03
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ttxI propose to close proposals on March 31, so that we can switch to scheduling21:03
ttxwe'd keep the possibility to add sessions after that date... just encouraging people to submit before then21:04
ttxThoughts ?21:04
danwentttx: as long as PTL can add sessions later if deemed important, i think that's fine21:04
ttx#action ttx to communicate the soft March 31 deadline21:04
ttxmarkmc, mordred, annegentle, sdague/davidkranz/jaypipes: Updates from Stable/CI/QA/Docs teams ?21:05
markmcwe've a lot of talks proposed21:05
markmcmore than usual?21:05
sdaguettx: we're going to cut stable tempest on thursday21:05
ttxmarkmc: we have more slots than usual too21:05
ttxsdague: ok21:05
annegentleWe've got more than 50 doc bugs, please write and review docs with confirmed bugs on https://launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+milestone/grizzly first.21:05
ttx#info QA team to cut stable tempest on thursday21:06
annegentle#info Doc team seeking doc bug squashers21:06
annegentle#link https://launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+milestone/grizzly21:06
ttxannegentle: I hope to see some focus shift on docs and release notes after the first wave of RC21:06
annegentlettx: that would be fabulous21:06
ttxthat's /also/ part of a successful release21:07
markmcOh, on stable - people should use the grizzly-stable-potential tag21:07
markmc#info tag your "not rc blocker, but yet important" bugs with grizzly-stable-potential21:07
markmc#info tag your "not rc blocker, but yet important" bugs with grizzly-backport-potential21:07
ttxanything else before we dive into project specifics ?21:07
heckjmarkmc, ttx: are those tags documented anywhere?21:08
markmcheckj, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch21:08
heckj(i.e. where do we go to look for tags that we should be using?)21:08
markmcheckj, for folsom21:08
heckjcool, thank21:08
markwashmarkmc: did you mean different "" strings for those two different tags?21:08
ttxalso https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTags, though wiki transition ate it21:08
markmcmarkwash, it's grizzly-backport-potential21:08
ttx#action ttx to fix https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTags21:09
russellbwe've got a number tagged as grizzly-rc-potential, guess we should just retag them after21:09
markmcrussellb, yeah21:09
ttxafter the first RC yes21:09
ttx#topic Swift status21:09
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ttxnotmyname: o/21:09
ttxGrizzly milestone-proposed branch was cut, ready to tag RC121:09
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ttxnotmyname: Could you update blueprint status on https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.8.0-rc1 ?21:09
notmynameyay. I'll be finishing up the LP updates this afternoon21:09
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ttxFrom the changelog I couldn't tell if dedicated-replication-network and multi-region are actually completed21:09
notmynameno, it didn't for the rc cut21:10
ttxok, then I can defer them and just cut RC121:10
ttxnotmyname: works for you ?21:10
notmynamewe're having our swift meeting tomorrow and we'll discuss any backports21:10
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notmynamettx: I'll update LP this afternoon21:10
ttxnotmyname: OK, I will hold then21:11
notmynamettx: I'll send an email as soon as it's done21:11
ttxnotmyname: will wait for your green flag before I do anything21:11
notmynameotherwise, QA is progressing. I expect some backports, but we don't know what those are yet21:11
ttxAnything more on Swift ?21:12
notmynamefirst meeting since US time change is tomorrow. 1900UTC21:12
notmynamethat's all from me21:12
ttxnotmyname: thx21:13
ttx#topic Oslo status21:13
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ttxmarkmc: o/21:13
ttxGrizzly branch was cut for Oslo21:13
ttxThe only thing I see in the pipe that would affect grizzly release is:21:13
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ttxderived from (previously Nova-targeted) bug 115534721:13
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1155347 in oslo "nova-manage --nodebug doesn't work" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115534721:13
markmcyep, I should review that right now21:13
markmcnot a huge issue, I expect21:13
markmcoh, it's marked High21:14
russellbwas marked critical at one point, heh21:14
markmcI'd be kinda surprised if anyone actually used --nodebug21:14
ttxmarkmc: and I downgraded that from "Critical"21:14
markmcI'll review it now21:14
markmcworth a whole release just for that?21:14
markmcI guess so21:14
markmcdon't think there's much else going on21:15
ttxI'll have a look at it again for priority, but it seemed to be quite upsetting21:15
markmcprodded some people to submit summit sessions21:15
ttxHow is planning for the Oslo topic at the Design Summit going so far ?21:15
markmcI think the number of slots we have is about right21:15
markmcbut would definitely welcome more proposals21:16
ttxAnything else on the oslo topic ?21:16
markmcno, don't think so21:16
ttxmy "deadline" email should trigger new ones21:16
ttx#topic Keystone status21:16
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markmcyeah, I hadn't realised the deadline was so far out21:16
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ttxheckj/dolphm: o/21:17
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ttx#link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:17
ttx3 bugs left on the RC list21:17
ttxbug 1143998 and bug 1130236 still seem to need more work21:17
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1143998 in keystone "nova-api crash - keystone.middleware.auth_token broken" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114399821:17
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1130236 in keystone "Domains are not validated on authentication" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113023621:17
ttxdolphm: You mentioned a late feature earlier ?21:17
dolphmi believe bug 1130236 might be ready21:17
dolphmttx: yes, let me link..21:18
dolphm#liink https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22624/21:18
dolphmthis work has been tracked as a bug since december21:18
dolphmand it basically blurs the line between bug and feature, so i wanted to double check before merging to grizzly21:19
dolphmwithout the patch, we don't have ldap support for identity api v3 at all21:19
ttxso it's a gap in a feature we ship ?21:19
dolphmyes; we have sql (and kvs) driver support today, this is mostly a copy/paste to the ldap driver21:20
dolphmit's been pretty heavily discussed/reviewed/tested by Sahdev Zala, Adam Young, Brad Topol, Henry Nash, Brant Knudson & Ryan Lane21:20
dolphmi'd definitely like to see it merge for RC121:20
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ttxhmm, there is some doc impact as well -- new options21:20
dolphmttx: yes, definitely21:21
annegentlettx: they've had some doc about ldap previously, dolph do you think you'd be able to update?21:21
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dolphmannegentle: i can help make sure that happens :)21:21
ttxdolphm: I guess that's better to have it in rather than out21:22
ttxand it's reasonably self-contained...21:22
annegentledolphm: it'll mean updating in openstack-manuals too21:22
annegentledolphm: since those are also already updated for grizzly21:22
ttxdolphm: you should go for it -- but we really need to speed up RC1 publication21:23
ttxto encourage further testing21:23
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dolphmttx: we only have one patch that i don't think is ready to merge, and it's mine :)21:23
dolphmi pinged the mailing list yesterday about continued support for keystone.middleware.auth_token; i'm going working on ensuring we maintain that support21:24
ttxheckj/dolphm: what's your new ETA for RC1 ?21:24
ttxEOD tomorrow ?21:24
dolphmlate today / tomorrow21:24
ttxOK, let's do this21:24
ttx#info Keystone RC1 updated ETA: EOD March 2021:25
ttx4 bugs on the grizzly-rc-potential list, not convinced we should block on them21:25
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ttxthough any that make it will be welcome21:25
ttxAnything more about Keystone ?21:25
dolphmdon't think so; thanks!21:26
ttx#topic Glance status21:26
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ttxbcwaldon/markwash: o/21:26
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:26
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ttxbcwaldon/markwash: Looks like you're ready ?21:26
bcwaldonyes, so rc1 is on its way out the door21:27
ttxAs soon as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24832/ hits the fan, should be able to cut grizzly branch and tag rc121:27
bcwaldonthanks to everybody who helped fix bugs over the past few weeks!21:27
comstudyou're welcome21:27
bcwaldoncomstud: :/21:28
bcwaldonspecifically not comstud21:28
ttxbcwaldon: You have a number of targets of opportunity tagged grizzly-rc-potential...21:28
ttxall non-essential ?21:28
bcwaldonttx: I'll revisit those today, but I think we can untag them21:28
bcwaldonthey are definitely non-essential21:28
bcwaldonI'm not quite clear on the process moving forward, actually21:29
bcwaldonshould we keep tagging things as rc-potential?21:29
ttxbcwaldon: i'll try to stay up and at least cut the milestone-proposed branch... so that if some unexpected issue comes up you can still push a backport21:29
ttxbefore I tag RC1 in my tomorrow morning21:29
ttx#info Glance RC1: by EOD March 1921:30
ttxAnything more on Glance ?21:30
bcwaldonnot from us21:30
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ttxawesome, thx guys21:30
ttx#topic Quantum status21:31
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ttxdanwent/markmcclain: hi!21:31
ttx#info Quantum RC1 was published last week21:31
ttxWe'll have an RC2, mostly due to bug 115489521:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1154895 in quantum "Quantum not logging anymore on stderr" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115489521:31
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ttx#link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-rc221:31
danwentyes, and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/115512121:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1155121 in quantum "DB tables not loaded with Cisco Plugin" [High,Fix committed]21:31
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ttxOne bug left to fix + one to backport...21:31
ttxWe can wait until the end of the week to cut rc2, though, just in case another blocker would be discovered ?21:32
danwentttx: yes, that is the plan21:32
danwentthis week we are focusing on getting docs tightened up21:32
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ttxLet's say EOD Thursday and I cut rc2 in Friday european morning ?21:32
danwentplan to have an RC2 with all key functionality documented by tuesday21:32
danwentwe could cut it that early, if you wanted21:32
danwentbut i was thinking a little more bake time wouldn't hurt21:33
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ttxdanwent: ok. More like Monday ?21:33
danwentok, i'm cool with that.21:33
ttx#info Quantum RC2 around Monday March 2521:33
danwentits more that I want time to document everything, then run through with testing on packaged builds before officially declaring RC221:33
danwentbut yeah, monday is reasonable21:34
ttxdanwent: yes, trying to balance with the need to push an updated tarball for testers/packagers21:34
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ttxdanwent: We'll adjust based on progress21:34
ttxAnything else on Quantum ?21:34
danwentnothing from me.  markmcclain ?21:34
markmcclainnothing new from me21:35
ttx#topic Cinder status21:35
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ttxjgriffith: around ?21:35
ttx#info Cinder RC1 was cut last week21:35
ttxI think we need to do a RC2 over the rtslib thing21:35
ttxbug 115709121:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1157091 in cinder "rtslib dependency (AGPL) should be made optional" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115709121:35
jgriffithttx: +121:36
ttxSeem to be some confusion on the right fix... so maybe this is not really FixCommitted yet21:36
jgriffithand the other 50 patches that have been submitted since21:36
ttxjgriffith: I'll open an RC2 page just after meeting so that we can approprietly target stuff to it21:36
jgriffithttx: So I think in the next couple hours we'll have *a fix*21:36
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jgriffitheharney: is working on pulling out the bin21:36
jgriffithand putting it on pypi21:37
jgriffithttx: that would be swell21:37
ttxDo you want to try to fix bug 1134768 as well, in rc2 ?21:37
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1134768 in cinder "Secure delete not called for snapshots even when expected" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113476821:37
jgriffithwe're better off with it not being called21:37
jgriffithbut yes21:37
jgriffithI'll at least make it explicitly not called21:37
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jgriffithUnless we just no longer support Precise :)21:38
ttxjgriffith: we can keep the RC2 window open for a few days, and cut at the end of the week21:38
ttxhow about until EOD Thursday21:38
jgriffithttx: that sounds good, it's going to take me a day or two just to sort through the truly important stuff21:38
ttx(I kinda want to purge the AGPL thing in a RC deliverable asap)21:38
jgriffiththat's perfect21:39
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jgriffithttx: Yeah, I already merged the removal from pip-requires21:39
ttxeven if that means doing an RC3 if something else comes up21:39
ttx#info Cinder RC2 by EOD March 2121:39
jgriffithttx: I'm happy to backport it to RC1 to be safe?21:39
ttxAnything more about Cinder ?21:39
jgriffithNope, I think that's my excitement for the day21:40
ttxjgriffith: you'll have to backport all targeted fixes to milestone-proposed21:40
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ttxand we'll tag RC2 from there21:40
ttxwill ping you once I get the RC2 page up21:40
ttxafter meeting21:40
ttx#topic Nova status21:40
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ttxvishy/russellb: o/21:40
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:41
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ttx2 bugs left on the list, one of them without code proposed yet21:41
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russellbthe In Progress bug had its patch merged21:41
vishyi'm about to propose a fix for the missing one21:41
russellberr, approved, should be merged soon21:41
ttxvishy: OK, means we could do RC1 today/tomorrow ?21:42
ttxI see 6 issues tagged grizzly-rc-potential, but nothing particularly worrisome to me21:42
ttxThe process is: when you're done, just push a 2013.1 -> 2013.2 setup.py change to master, and ping me -- I will cut the grizzly branch from the previous commit21:43
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ttxvishy: still with us ?21:44
vishysounds good21:44
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ttx#info Nova RC1 early or late tomorrow21:44
ttxAny question on Nova ?21:44
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ttx#topic Horizon status21:45
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ttxgabrielhurley: o/21:45
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:45
ttxLooks like you're ready... Should we cut ?21:45
gabrielhurleyjust proposed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24844/21:45
gabrielhurleyto bump the version21:45
ttxOK, will cut the grizzly branch from the previous commit.21:46
ttxhopefully that will merge soon and I cut cut the branch before going to bed21:46
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ttxso that you still have the oppty to backport last-minute stuff, otherwise I'll just tag RC1 first thing tomorrow21:46
gabrielhurleyI wanna make sure folks are good at the Horizon meeting right after this, then will merge21:46
gabrielhurleyso within an hour I'll click the approve button on it21:47
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ttxgabrielhurley: hmm, maybe just approve it at the end of your day if you're still happy with it21:47
ttxand I'll pick it up tomorrow european morning21:47
gabrielhurleydon't wanna keep you up21:47
ttx#info Horizon RC1 early tomorrow21:48
ttxgabrielhurley: i'll take the merging of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24844/ as your RC1 signoff21:48
gabrielhurleysounds good21:48
ttxAnything more on Horizon ?21:48
gabrielhurleyI'd like to remind folks that it's time to propose sessions for Horizon for the Design Summit. :-)21:48
ttxgabrielhurley: yes, I was wondering if those 7 slots were not just too much space :P21:49
gabrielhurleyno idea yet21:49
gabrielhurleyagain, will discuss at the horizon meeting after this21:49
ttxgabrielhurley: there should at least be one session about the celio/heat integration21:49
gabrielhurleyI'd anticipate 5-7 like last time21:49
gabrielhurleyyeah, there will be21:49
gabrielhurleyI'll prpose it if they don't21:50
sdakei proposed one for heat21:50
gabrielhurleyand I approved it ;-)21:50
ttxnice transition21:50
gabrielhurleythere was a second one that I'd like to see for heat that was on the ML today21:50
ttx#topic Incubated-in-Grizzly/Integrated-in-Havana projects21:50
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ttx#link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:50
ttxsdake: o/21:50
ttxLooks like you're ready for an RC1 ?21:50
sdakewe are ready to roll21:50
sdakeif you prefer I do a version update happy to do that now21:51
sdakecan have merged in next 5 mins21:51
ttxsdake: same drill, push the setup.py version change and I'll cut from the previous commit21:51
sdakeor if you prefer to take master, up to you21:51
sdakesounds good thanks21:51
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ttxjust ping me when it's merged, just in case I'm still up21:51
sdakewill do21:51
ttxotherwise will pick it up in ~10 hours21:52
ttxAnyone from the Ceilometer crew ?21:52
ttxjd__: ?21:52
ttxnijaba: ?21:52
ttxFor reference:21:53
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:53
ttx8 bugs still targeted, wondering if those are all release blockers ?21:53
ttxAnything else, anyone ?21:53
ttxGuess not21:54
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Mar 19 21:54:38 2013 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)21:54
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ttxThanks everyone!21:54
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gabrielhurley#startmeeting horizon22:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 19 22:00:25 2013 UTC.  The chair is gabrielhurley. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.22:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.22:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'22:00
gabrielhurleyhi everybody22:00
gabrielhurley#topic Overview22:01
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gabrielhurleySo, we've got ourselves what looks like an RC!22:01
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gabrielhurleyThere are a couple bugs I'd like to point out in the bugs part of this meeting, but none that I consider blockers at this stage22:01
vkmcHey all o/22:02
gabrielhurleyI also went in and added release notes and translations this morning22:02
gabrielhurleythe review to bump the version (and signal the cut of the RC) is in gerrit currently.22:02
gabrielhurleyunless we identify something that should be a blocker in this meeting I'll merge that and trunk will be open for Havana22:02
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gabrielhurleyany fixes after that have to be explicitly ported to the Grizzly release  branch22:03
gabrielhurleyso let's try not to have to do that ;-)22:03
gabrielhurleythings are looking good though22:04
gabrielhurleyWriting the release notes is always a great exercise and I feel really positive about what we've accomplsihed in Grizzly22:04
gabrielhurleyit's a big stride forward in solving the most common UX complaints. it just feels better. plus the new features that made it in are very cool.22:04
gabrielhurleyso great job to everyone.22:04
jpichGo team22:05
gabrielhurleyany general/process questions before I move to bugs?22:05
gabrielhurleygoing once22:05
gabrielhurleygoing twice22:05
kspearwell done all22:05
lchengjust  a quick question, does the 'switchable' class supposed to work on workflow as well?22:05
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gabrielhurleylcheng: good question, and off the top of my head I'd say yes, but I've never tried it.22:06
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gabrielhurley#topic bugs and blueprints22:06
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lchengI was trying this out, couldn't get it to work. Might log a bug for this one. ;-)22:06
gabrielhurleygo for it22:07
gabrielhurleyjust so people are aware, this late breaking bug was pretty serious: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1155876 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/115619822:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1155876 in horizon "Quota updating failed with Http 400 Error" [Critical,Fix committed]22:07
gabrielhurleyit was caused by Nova failing to properly deprecate the inputs their API accepted22:07
gabrielhurleywe got a fix in, but that was a close one22:07
gabrielhurleyit's a reminder that we on the Horizon team have to be extra-diligent in being aware of other projects' changes22:08
gabrielhurleyand if they do things which aren't backwards compatible we need to call them on it22:08
gabrielhurleylooking forward to bugs that didn't make the RC blocker list22:09
gabrielhurleythis one sucks, but isn't the end of the world and I even release noted it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/114837222:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1148372 in horizon "edit flavor deletes the flavor if special char is used" [Medium,Confirmed]22:10
gabrielhurleywe need to do more careful validation on the input there on our side before sending it to Nova22:10
gabrielhurleyI don't see it as a blocker22:10
gabrielhurleyif we roll an RC2 I might consider adding it in to be fixed22:10
jpichI'm wondering about https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1156817 and its impact on distros after seeing mrunge's comment (#3). Any thought?22:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1156817 in horizon "Regression due "rm invalid args when updating quotas with nova api "" [High,Fix committed]22:11
gabrielhurleyI'm not sold on that argument, for this reason:22:12
gabrielhurleythe argument that Fedora 18 includes an older cinderclient is moot because it doesn't include this version of Horizon. If you're gonna run an updated package for horizon why can't you update your copy of cinderclient?22:13
gabrielhurleyI don't like adding special-cased code paths for the clients in general.22:13
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kspearI agree. Fedora 19 is their target for Grizzly22:13
kspearThere are also existing incompatibilities22:14
kspearthe openstack_auth version for one22:14
stevebakerfwiw, heat assumes a recent cinderclient22:14
gabrielhurleyIf you wanna run latest, then run latest. Updating a package without updating its dependencies is a bad idea in general.22:14
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jpichThat sounds like a fair point. I'm not super familiar with packaging but remember reading about the evils of pinning so it sounded worthwhile addressing that comment22:14
gabrielhurleythe only problem with pinning for distros is the distro needs to have that version or later22:15
gabrielhurleyI try to pin to wide swaths of versions where possible to avoid making it harder for people22:15
gabrielhurleyOpenStack as a whole could adopt a policy of supporting X versions back in the clients, and then I'd feel bound to do something about it22:15
gabrielhurleybut the clients are frustratingly wild-west style22:16
gabrielhurleyso I don't like supporting incompatible versions of them22:16
jpichCool, makes sense :)22:16
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gabrielhurleythat should probably be noted on the ticket22:17
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gabrielhurleyanyhow, the other big bug area22:18
gabrielhurleythere's a slew of Quantum-related bugs, but given how late those features landed it's an unaviodable consequence. A sampling here:22:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1153525 in horizon "Some Lbaas fields require ints but declared as CharFields" [Low,Confirmed]22:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1151101 in horizon "The displayed network, router, topology info of admin user is confusion" [Medium,Confirmed]22:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1156433 in horizon "network topology can not show up in some version of firefox browser" [Medium,Triaged]22:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1146926 in horizon "Cannot create a network topology other than very simple" [Medium,In progress]22:18
gabrielhurleyI release noted some of those, and generally made it clear that these are late-breaking features and should be treated somewhat like a "beta" in Horizon.22:19
gabrielhurleyIf anyone wants to argue for blockers out of any of that, now's the time22:20
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gabrielhurleythose are the only bugs that really concerned me that I didn't mark as blockers for the RC22:21
gabrielhurleyanybody got any others they're deeply worried about?22:21
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1154391 in horizon "Cannot launch Dashboard due to Import error " [Medium,Confirmed]22:23
ttrifonovThis is not a blocker22:23
gabrielhurleythe PR to openstack_auth is merged, and I'm gonna cut a new release for it to PyPI today22:24
gabrielhurleythat only affects people (devs) who had an old version of django installed but are running newer versions of the code22:24
gabrielhurleyI have to take off in about 5 minutes, but before then I'll open it up for general discussion22:24
gabrielhurley#topic open discussion22:24
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kspearone comment on the release notes22:25
stevebakercan we talk Heat integration?22:25
kspearthe theme support bp became a no-op i think22:25
kspearthe review was abandoned22:25
gabrielhurleykspear: I thought it got merged22:26
gabrielhurleystevebaker: is there something specific you want to talk about for it prior to the summit in a couple weeks where it can be discussed in depth?22:26
stevebakerI'm doing some development on the Heat UI at the moment. I won't be at Summit, and I hope to have something worth pushing well before that22:26
gabrielhurleystevebaker: gotcha. I haven't had time to focus on what's there so far so I may not be of immediate use.22:27
stevebakerassuming that fits with release/feature roadmap22:27
kspeargabrielhurley: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20804/22:27
gabrielhurleyoh yeah, absolutely22:27
kspeargabrielhurley: unless there was another review i missed?22:27
gabrielhurleykspear: the blueprint got marked implemented... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/theme-support22:27
gabrielhurleynow I'm not sure22:28
gabrielhurleylooks like that was inappopriate22:28
stevebakerI'm paring back Dan's work to the bare essentials, I'll probably have a few newbie questions for #openstack-horizon22:28
kspearthe conclusion was it was already possible to do via django22:28
gabrielhurleykspear: okay. that needs to be fixed in the release notes. I'll put up a review to axe it in a moment.22:28
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kspeargabrielhurley: great22:29
gabrielhurleystevebaker: sounds good. this meeting is a good time to ask questions in general. today it's just a lot of RC business and I have to take off ASAP22:29
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jpichstevebaker: You're welcome to, the channel is quiet but there are a few of us keeping an eye on it and answering questions in there22:30
stevebakerwhen I've got something ready to review I'll push to gerrit, just to discover what you're expectations are for merging22:30
gabrielhurleyI'm bad about it, sadly. I have too many chat windows open already :-(22:30
stevebakerjpich: cool, thanks22:30
gabrielhurleyrelease notes fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24853/22:31
gabrielhurleyokay. I gotta go.22:31
gabrielhurleyI'm gonna close the meeting but feel free to keep talking22:31
gabrielhurleythanks everyone!22:31
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gabrielhurleyOh, and propose talks for the summit!!!!22:31
david-lyleis there a link to propose design summit topics?22:31
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gabrielhurleyttyl, folks. have a great week!22:32
jpichyou too22:32
kspearthanks gabriel22:32
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david-lylethanks, I couldn't find the link off any of the other sites22:32
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