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| danwent | hi folks | 21:00 |
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| markmcclain | ok.. we'll probably have a small crowd tonight | 21:01 |
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| ijw1 | o/ | 21:01 |
| markmcclain | #startmeeting quantum | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 1 21:01:27 2013 UTC. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: quantum)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'quantum' | 21:01 |
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| markmcclain | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:01 |
| markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:02 |
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| enikanorov | hi | 21:02 |
| salv-orlando | hi | 21:02 |
| alexpilotti | hi | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #info RC2 was released last week. I thought we had escaped without any major bugs, but one has popped up. | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1162626 | 21:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1162626 in quantum "lb-vip and security groups don't work together" [High,Confirmed] | 21:03 |
| danwent | not sure if the title is accurate anymore | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | arosen has been tracking this one down | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | arosen want to fill us in? | 21:03 |
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| salv-orlando | he commented on the bug about 15 minutes ago | 21:04 |
| enikanorov | not lb-vip specific | 21:04 |
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| danwent | i think he's working on it right now | 21:04 |
| arosen | markmcclain: yup | 21:04 |
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| enikanorov | the same happens with dhcp or router ports if floating ip is associated | 21:04 |
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| danwent | i think it may have been intentional for dhcp ports | 21:05 |
| arosen | markmcclain: the issue is there is no route in the namespace for the vip-ip | 21:05 |
| arosen | yup i think that's intentional for dhcp ports | 21:05 |
| arosen | as they don't need a route to the default gw | 21:05 |
| Nachi | I'm not sure why lb is working on my test lab if there are no route.. | 21:06 |
| danwent | Nachi, are you connecting from the local subnet? | 21:06 |
| Nachi | It looks like not the problem of security group | 21:06 |
| Nachi | danwent: yes | 21:06 |
| danwent | this problem will only happen if you are not on the local subnet | 21:06 |
| Nachi | danwent: Ah it make sence thanks | 21:06 |
| danwent | (e.g., via a floating IP, or a VM on another subnet connected to the same router) | 21:07 |
| arosen | Nachi: right it's not a security group problem. It's a route issue. I'll update the bug. | 21:07 |
| Nachi | arosen: thanks | 21:07 |
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| markmcclain | Seems like this bug is significant enough that should look into fixing it prior to release | 21:07 |
| danwent | floating IPs + VIPs seem like a likely deployment model, so to me this seems important | 21:07 |
| danwent | not to mention multi-tier apps | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | agreed | 21:08 |
| danwent | this late in the game, i would suggest that only this single change is made for an RC3 | 21:08 |
| danwent | (rather than piling in other changes that may be targeted for a stable release…. we don't have much time for additional testing, and I like that the change would be scoped only to lbaas) | 21:08 |
| mestery | +1 to that idea danwent | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | danwent: I agree | 21:09 |
| gongysh | I think we need unicode bug https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25489/ | 21:09 |
| simple_bot1235 | I got pinged! | 21:09 |
| gongysh | should be candidate. | 21:09 |
| gongysh | unicode is important in Asia market | 21:09 |
| danwent | that is a python-quantumclient change, no? | 21:10 |
| danwent | (or at least that review is) | 21:10 |
| Nachi | gongysh: +1 | 21:10 |
| salv-orlando | yes, it's a client side change | 21:10 |
| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25482/ | 21:10 |
| gongysh | there are two parts. | 21:10 |
| danwent | the client is released separately | 21:10 |
| salv-orlando | as always | 21:11 |
| danwent | yeah, i thought I saw a server side change | 21:11 |
| danwent | do you have that review? | 21:11 |
| gongysh | server side and client side. | 21:11 |
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| gongysh | I reviewed server side. | 21:11 |
| danwent | my bias is to delay everything until the next stable release unless it completely prevents a key use case | 21:11 |
| salv-orlando | excluding unit tests is a small change | 21:11 |
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| danwent | salv-orlando: ok, let's make a note that we should review that as well for possible inclusion in RC3 | 21:12 |
| danwent | we will talk with ttx about it. | 21:12 |
| gongysh | I think the unit tests is not big for the unicode one. | 21:12 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: agreed | 21:12 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando and danwent do you all want to review that change? | 21:13 |
| danwent | can someone send a link? | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25482/5 | 21:13 |
| mikal | :wq | 21:14 |
| danwent | ok, that seems like a pretty safe change | 21:14 |
| danwent | save that text mikal ! | 21:14 |
| mikal | Doh | 21:14 |
| danwent | :) | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | haha | 21:14 |
| danwent | gongysh: that change seems to only be in an error handler, am i missing something? | 21:15 |
| gongysh | that is for serializer to str msg. | 21:15 |
| salv-orlando | it probably has to do with __str__ vs __repr__ but I'm not sure | 21:15 |
| danwent | ah, missed the change below the tests | 21:15 |
| gongysh | particularly to exception one. | 21:15 |
| danwent | is this code change inline with what other projects are already doing to handle unicode? | 21:16 |
| danwent | if so, we can consider the change pretty safe | 21:16 |
| danwent | since it is effectively already been tested in other projects | 21:16 |
| gongysh | yes, this is inline with olso's wsgi. | 21:16 |
| danwent | ok, assuming the review check out, i'm OK with in an RC3 if markmcclain + salv-orlando are | 21:17 |
| danwent | change to non-test code is tiny, and we can validate against other code already in another project | 21:17 |
| salv-orlando | I am ok with RC-3. There also very good coverage | 21:17 |
| salv-orlando | from unit tests side | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | danwent: I think this is a good candidate to include in RC3 | 21:18 |
| danwent | do we need another client release as well? | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | the client concerns me more | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | there are no tests | 21:18 |
| gongysh | I will ask him to write test codes. | 21:19 |
| gongysh | that is why I don't review that patch. | 21:19 |
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| gongysh | will we release another release of client for the server RC3? | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | The client is on it's own release cycle, so we can push a 2.2.1 when we're ready | 21:20 |
| gongysh | ok | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | Any other release blocking bugs? | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | #topic Grizzly Documentation | 21:21 |
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| danwent | ok, we need both of those bugs tagged with grizzly-backport-potential | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | danwent: I'll take care of it | 21:21 |
| danwent | markmcclain: thx. we'll ping ttx and give him the news :( | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | #action markmcclain and danwent to update ttx on release candidate bugs | 21:22 |
| danwent | #info on the admin docs side, there has been some progress, but a lot of items are still outstanding, with the release on thursday | 21:22 |
| danwent | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=quantum | 21:22 |
| danwent | right now, i'm just focusing on community-wide items, which are marked as 'high' | 21:22 |
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| annegentle | danwent: as long as you are honest about what's done/not done, we won't "cut a docs release" for a few weeks | 21:23 |
| annegentle | danwent: not that I want to delay you, but just letting you know what we've done historically | 21:23 |
| danwent | annegentle: yup, but I want to at least have enough for a basic setup done by the release | 21:23 |
| annegentle | danwent: perfect | 21:23 |
| danwent | hehe, yeah. more advanced features and different knobs one can tweak are ok to come in late, but in terms of getting the basic thing up, I'd like that done ASAP | 21:24 |
| danwent | markmcclain says this is already in progress: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1099573 | 21:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1099573 in openstack-manuals "Quantum Metadata Proxy should be documented" [High,Confirmed] | 21:24 |
| danwent | given that this changed substantially since folsom, i think this is really important | 21:24 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1099574 | 21:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1099574 in openstack-manuals "Quantum DB migration" [High,Confirmed] | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | danwent: just as important as the first | 21:25 |
| danwent | agreed. | 21:25 |
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| markmcclain | I'll get them polished so that I can push for review | 21:25 |
| danwent | getting lbaas docs in so people can tested is valuable: | 21:25 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1156828 | 21:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1156828 in openstack-manuals "q-admin: basic lbaas workflow" [High,Confirmed] | 21:25 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1157034 | 21:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1157034 in openstack-manuals "quantum lbaas install - Ubuntu" [High,Confirmed] | 21:25 |
| danwent | i'm going to update those 4 items to be critical priority, so we can focus on getting them done this week. | 21:26 |
| danwent | rkukura: around? | 21:26 |
| rkukura | yes | 21:26 |
| danwent | just wanted to understand status of rhel docs | 21:26 |
| danwent | so far, i've mainly be testing with ubuntu, so i don't have as good of a feel there, but its very important as well. | 21:27 |
| rkukura | I don't have any update on the status - not sure if others have been working on this or not | 21:28 |
| danwent | ok, so currently there is http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/install_fedora.html | 21:28 |
| danwent | I'll file an issue for someone to re-test with grizzly, identify spots where changes are needed | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | danwent: sounds good | 21:29 |
| rkukura | +1 | 21:29 |
| danwent | based on what annegentle said, i guess its ok if those aren't updated for a while, though perhaps we should put a warning note in there | 21:29 |
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| danwent | in the mean time, as I wouldn't want somebody thinking they had been updated for grizzly, just because other parts of the doc had been | 21:30 |
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| danwent | #action #danwent file issue on updating fedora install docs, add warning to docs in teh mean time | 21:30 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: how are API docs looking? | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bugs?field.tag=netconn-api | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | All patches but two are under review | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | I am reviewing all of them, should finish my round of review by tomorrow. | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | We still are missing two extensions | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | bug 1157159 | 21:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1157159 in openstack-api-site "Quantum API - Document Port Bindings Extension" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157159 | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | this is mine, and I will push the documents for review tomorrow | 21:32 |
| danwent | that one isn't really user-facing, so isn't a big deal | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | indeed | 21:32 |
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| danwent | but its good for completeness | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | the one I would like to see in really is | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | byg 1157156 | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | bug 1157156 | 21:32 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1157156 in openstack-api-site "Quantum API - Extra Route extension" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157156 | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | As it it also used by many plugins | 21:32 |
| danwent | k, makes sense | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | it is currently assigned to nati-ueno, but can reassign if he's busy | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | It should not take too much time to document | 21:33 |
| danwent | well, sounds like we've made good progress on teh API side | 21:33 |
| danwent | so now the admin docs folks need to play catch-up :) | 21:33 |
| danwent | ok, anything else on the docs side? | 21:33 |
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| gongysh | If we need to update the use case diagram? | 21:34 |
| nati_ueno | salv-orlando: I'll do this ticket in this week. sorry | 21:34 |
| danwent | gongysh: are you talking about diagrams like http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/use_cases_tenant_router.html ? | 21:34 |
| gongysh | I mean add metadata agent/proxy stuff. | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | nati_ueno: ok, thanks | 21:35 |
| danwent | gongysh: metadata agent/proxy install is being covered by markmcclain . the nova flags needed are already in | 21:35 |
| danwent | the overall topology diagram should be updated to show the metadata agent though | 21:35 |
| danwent | let me see if i already have that noted in one of the bugs, one sec | 21:35 |
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| danwent | yeah: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1152838 | 21:36 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1152838 in openstack-manuals "update quantum physical layout diagram" [High,Triaged] | 21:36 |
| gongysh | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/figures/2/figures/demo_flat_install.png | 21:36 |
| gongysh | that is one of them. | 21:36 |
| danwent | ah, yeah, there are other diagrams in the demos.... | 21:37 |
| salv-orlando | I wouldn't include metadata in tenant use cases, but this is my opinion only | 21:37 |
| danwent | the above bug is only for the main quantum physical layout. i'd file another bug for those demos… there may be other commands that need to be updated in them along with the diagrams | 21:38 |
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| gongysh | ok | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | gongysh: you going to file the bug for the demos? | 21:39 |
| danwent | yeah, there's definitely text updates needed as well | 21:39 |
| danwent | as they currently don't install the metadata agent | 21:39 |
| gongysh | I will try to see if we need to change them. | 21:39 |
| gongysh | If these cases speaks to the medata data access, we need to update. | 21:40 |
| danwent | i'm also concerned about the fact that the demos disable namespaces | 21:40 |
| danwent | markmcclain: will that work with metadata proxy? | 21:40 |
| danwent | i forget if that requires namespaces or not | 21:40 |
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| markmcclain | danwent: double checking | 21:41 |
| gongysh | dhcp isolated metadata requires namespace. | 21:41 |
| gongysh | l3 metadata doesnot. | 21:41 |
| danwent | ah, ok. | 21:41 |
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| markmcclain | gongysh: is correct | 21:42 |
| danwent | yeah, as long as you use one router… that makes sense | 21:42 |
| danwent | i'm a little worried that our demos suggest running l3-agent + dhcp-agent on the same host without namespaces | 21:42 |
| gongysh | yes, one router is fine with non-namespace. | 21:42 |
| markmcclain | danwent: that will be problematic as there is already a proposed patch to explicitly prevent it | 21:43 |
| gongysh | danwent, I will scan them. | 21:43 |
| danwent | but we can take this offline | 21:43 |
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| danwent | gongysh: let's just tackle this as part of the bug for updating the demo scenarios for grizzly | 21:43 |
| danwent | ok, anything else on docs? | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | #action #gongysh to file a bug to update demo docs | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | Thanks Dan for the docs update. | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | #topic Portland Design Summit | 21:44 |
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| markmcclain | It's April which means the design summit is a little less than two weeks away. | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | #info Our sessions run Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | Last week we put out the call for proposals and you responded. Our track is now overflowing. | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | I wish we could schedule them all, but we only have a finite amount of time. | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | We had several popular topics: FWaaS, L3 Modularity, and VPNaaS. | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | I also want to add that testing was popular too. It is good to see the community interested into way to Quantum tests more efficient and complete. These kinds of topics really help everyone. | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | Since we have more proposals than available slots, we will have to merge some sessions together. | 21:47 |
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| gongysh | I think we should have a session to make L2 and current L3 can replace nova-network well. | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | Some of the proposers have already begun to coordinate which is a good head start. | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | gongysh: That session is already pre-approved in the Nova track | 21:48 |
| gongysh | great, thanks | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | It should take place on Thursday | 21:48 |
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| markmcclain | A few topics will be moved to discussion via the mailing line or to the unconference space. | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | It does not mean the topic is unimportant or unwanted it is just that certain topics are better discussed in person and others can easily be worked out via email. | 21:50 |
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| markmcclain | I'll be working on the schedule this week and a rough schedule will be available by the next team meeting. | 21:51 |
| markmcclain | Any questions on the design summit sessions? | 21:51 |
| nati_ueno | When we have beer sessions? | 21:52 |
| marun | salv-orlando: would like to coordinate with you regarding: http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/235 | 21:52 |
| danwent | sunday night | 21:52 |
| gongysh | haha | 21:52 |
| danwent | details are TBD.. markmcclain and i are working on it | 21:52 |
| nati_ueno | agha my fligh is midnight of sunday.. | 21:52 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: well then you will have some catching up to do when you hit the bars later that night :) | 21:52 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: hehe | 21:52 |
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| danwent | ok, sounds good | 21:53 |
| danwent | portland should be a lot of fun | 21:53 |
| salv-orlando | marun: sure - feel free to use the Openstack dev mailing list or send me an email | 21:54 |
| marun | salv-orlando: will do | 21:54 |
| danwent | i can smell the beer already! | 21:54 |
| danwent | ok, sounds like we can end this one a bit early... | 21:55 |
| amotoki | next stable release is planned? | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | # open discussion | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | amotoki: Folsom or Grizzly stable release? | 21:55 |
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| amotoki | Folsom | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | I believe the stable team is targeting some late next | 21:55 |
| gongysh | danwent: I think there are only some kinds of animals who can have such smart noses. | 21:55 |
| danwent | gongysh: actually, its just b/c i have a beer right next to me :P | 21:56 |
| gongysh | danwent: I can smell now too. | 21:56 |
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| markmcclain | amotoki: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-stable-maint/2013-March/000353.html | 21:57 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: btw, is it a holiday today in the US? If not you should not be drinking during office hours :p | 21:57 |
| danwent | gongysh: its a little early for now, no? | 21:57 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: its always a party in my office :P | 21:57 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: you're not going to report me, are you? | 21:57 |
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| amotoki | markmcclain: thanks. I haven't run Folsom release recently. | 21:57 |
| salv-orlando | I think I'll join you (but next monday, not today) | 21:57 |
| danwent | amotoki: i couldn't find a pointer to the next one | 21:58 |
| danwent | amotoki: i'd potentially ask during the team meeting tomorrow | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | danwent: I linked the thread in the stable ML | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | you got distracted by the beer :p | 21:59 |
| danwent | markmcclain: ah, missed that.. indeed! | 21:59 |
| gongysh | danwent: then I know why my docs patches did not get reviewed these days. | 21:59 |
| gongysh | :) | 21:59 |
| annegentle | gongysh: hee | 21:59 |
| danwent | gongysh: that beer isn't going to just drink itself :P | 21:59 |
| danwent | beer helps write docs, but does not help review them | 22:00 |
| gongysh | got it. :) | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | Ok.. well its time… let's put a good push to finish up the docs so that folks who try Grizzly have a great experience. | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 1 22:00:43 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2013/quantum.2013-04-01-21.01.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2013/quantum.2013-04-01-21.01.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2013/quantum.2013-04-01-21.01.log.html | 22:00 |
| danwent | later folks! | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | later | 22:01 |
| nati_ueno | ty! | 22:02 |
| amotoki | bye | 22:02 |
| salv-orlando | bye | 22:02 |
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