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johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting XenAPI | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 4 15:00:11 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'xenapi' | 15:00 |
johnthetubaguy | hello all | 15:00 |
johnthetubaguy | who is around for todays meeting | 15:00 |
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johnthetubaguy | I have a few things for the open discussion | 15:01 |
BobBall | Excellent | 15:01 |
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johnthetubaguy | other people got stuff for later in the meeting? | 15:01 |
BobBall | just the stuff we were talking about with safe_copy_vdi earlier | 15:01 |
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johnthetubaguy | OK | 15:02 |
johnthetubaguy | #topic Actions from last meeting | 15:02 |
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johnthetubaguy | BobBall: time for updates on VDI.copy workaround | 15:02 |
johnthetubaguy | you have a plan that involves taking snapshots? | 15:02 |
BobBall | So - for Mate and the logs - I realised why we use safe_copy_vdi - there get_cached_vdi function can have two independent calls to it - if one call finds the VDI not there, and starts to copy, the second call might see it and then try and copy it at the same time | 15:03 |
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BobBall | Can't do two copys of the same VDI at the same time | 15:03 |
BobBall | so we added this hack to do the copy outside of XAPI | 15:03 |
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matel | Ah, so it's some kind of locking. | 15:04 |
BobBall | but the right fix is to snapshot the VDI, copy it, then delete the snapshot | 15:04 |
BobBall | the copy of the snapshot creates a full copy - not the differencing disk | 15:04 |
BobBall | and you can therefore do them in parallel | 15:04 |
johnthetubaguy | well, would be nice for VDI.copy to do two copies at once, or block somehow, but snapshot seems like a good solution | 15:04 |
matel | That makes sense. | 15:04 |
BobBall | that leaves the only other possible race (which I assume is dealt with already) being in the glance plugin where it downloads it to a known UUID | 15:05 |
johnthetubaguy | Bob, is there a bug for that? | 15:05 |
BobBall | VDI.copy can't do two at once - we have to mount the VDI and then it's in use | 15:05 |
BobBall | Gimme an action and I'll raise a bug | 15:05 |
johnthetubaguy | glance doesn't download to a known uuid | 15:05 |
matel | it's always re-generating uuids. | 15:05 |
BobBall | it doesn't? Then how will the caching ever work? | 15:05 |
BobBall | oh hang on | 15:06 |
BobBall | of course - sorry | 15:06 |
BobBall | it matches the VDI based on image_id not the uuid | 15:06 |
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BobBall | so what we need to do is once we find the image_id then we can use it - snapshot, copy, delete snapshot, done. | 15:06 |
johnthetubaguy | yep | 15:06 |
johnthetubaguy | uses image tag | 15:06 |
johnthetubaguy | uuids are auto_generated on each call | 15:06 |
johnthetubaguy | even across retries | 15:07 |
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johnthetubaguy | BobBall: got the bug id, we might have one already | 15:07 |
BobBall | not yet | 15:07 |
BobBall | I haven't created it | 15:08 |
BobBall | I'll do it after the meeting | 15:08 |
johnthetubaguy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1215383 | 15:08 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1215383 in nova "XenAPI: Consider removing safe_copy_vdi" [Low,Triaged] | 15:08 |
johnthetubaguy | there we go | 15:08 |
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johnthetubaguy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1215383 | 15:08 |
johnthetubaguy | #topic Blueprints | 15:08 |
BobBall | oh right | 15:08 |
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BobBall | I'll update that bug report | 15:08 |
johnthetubaguy | its freeze day | 15:08 |
johnthetubaguy | mate, I see your patches | 15:09 |
johnthetubaguy | I think everything else is in? | 15:09 |
matel | yes | 15:09 |
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BobBall | Mine's in | 15:09 |
BobBall | woohoo | 15:09 |
BobBall | There clearly isn't time to make the change to Mate's code before the end of freeze day | 15:10 |
BobBall | Can we get it in and refactor as a bug during H-4? | 15:10 |
johnthetubaguy | maybe, can't decide | 15:11 |
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johnthetubaguy | would like another opinion | 15:11 |
BobBall | Could we involve russelb? | 15:11 |
johnthetubaguy | could do, I would rather be more general | 15:11 |
BobBall | russellb even - I assume that russelb doesn't trigger his hilight :D | 15:11 |
russellb | i have russelb highlghted too actually :-) | 15:12 |
BobBall | oh... ok :) | 15:12 |
russellb | whatcha need | 15:12 |
BobBall | So, the scenario is that we've got a change that could do with some refactoring to make it more generic | 15:12 |
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BobBall | We don't have time today to do that refactor | 15:12 |
BobBall | so I was wondering what your thoughts were on using a bug to track the refactoring and us committing to fix it during H-4 | 15:13 |
BobBall | and getting the fix in today? | 15:13 |
russellb | which patch | 15:13 |
matel | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40909/ | 15:13 |
matel | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41651/ | 15:13 |
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russellb | how much time do you need? | 15:13 |
matel | russelb: those are the patches | 15:13 |
BobBall | Only a few days | 15:13 |
russellb | like, could it be merged this week with a refactor? | 15:14 |
matel | sure | 15:14 |
russellb | i'd rather "do it right" in general | 15:14 |
russellb | so if doing it right means you need an extra day or two, and it's limited to the xenapi driver | 15:15 |
russellb | and you guys are comfortable with it going in | 15:15 |
russellb | and johnthetubaguy commits to reviewing it immediately | 15:15 |
johnthetubaguy | I am good with +2 if we commit to refactor next week | 15:15 |
russellb | then i think we can grant an exception for extra time | 15:15 |
russellb | can it be this week? :-) | 15:15 |
russellb | oh i see what you're saying | 15:16 |
russellb | hm | 15:16 |
johnthetubaguy | well, it could be called a bug | 15:16 |
russellb | yeah | 15:16 |
johnthetubaguy | basically, its some extension to the glance download/upload | 15:16 |
russellb | would you be upset if this went out in havana without a refactor? | 15:16 |
johnthetubaguy | I would be OK with that I guess | 15:16 |
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russellb | just using that as a test for whether it should go in now or not | 15:16 |
johnthetubaguy | just its extra driver specific stuff, where it doesn't have to be I guess | 15:16 |
russellb | not saying we should do it | 15:16 |
russellb | ah i see | 15:16 |
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russellb | well if you're OK with it as is, i say go for it | 15:17 |
johnthetubaguy | does targz raw images download/upload | 15:17 |
russellb | and then we'll evaluate the refactor when ready | 15:17 |
russellb | hard to call it a bug though | 15:17 |
johnthetubaguy | cool, OK | 15:17 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats fair | 15:17 |
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russellb | but maybe we'll look at it and decide it's worth it | 15:17 |
russellb | hard to say | 15:17 |
russellb | i'm speaking high level, haven't been able to look at code | 15:17 |
russellb | but if you want it in havana, sounds like you should merge what you have as long as you're OK with it as is | 15:18 |
johnthetubaguy | cool | 15:18 |
russellb | if it was just another day, i'd grant an extension | 15:18 |
russellb | but if we're looking at next week ... i'd go with what you have | 15:18 |
russellb | good luck guys :) | 15:18 |
matel | thanks. | 15:18 |
johnthetubaguy | russellb: thanks | 15:18 |
johnthetubaguy | OK, so I am +2 on those now | 15:19 |
johnthetubaguy | we should move on | 15:19 |
BobBall | thanks | 15:19 |
matel | Okay, thanks. | 15:19 |
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johnthetubaguy | #topic Docs | 15:19 |
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johnthetubaguy | any updates this week | 15:19 |
* BobBall looks at matel | 15:19 | |
johnthetubaguy | I saw some activity bug wise that could be related? | 15:19 |
BobBall | that was you too :) | 15:19 |
matel | So install guide | 15:19 |
matel | I was thinking, that we should move all xenserver setup stuff to the install guide | 15:20 |
johnthetubaguy | +1 | 15:20 |
matel | So that it would be part of both RH, Ubuntu, etc docs | 15:20 |
johnthetubaguy | would be nice to add some specific nova-compute steps too | 15:20 |
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johnthetubaguy | would be good to not make it look like we just cut and paste some ideas to the front of the doc, they are quite step-by-step structured from what I remember? | 15:21 |
matel | Sure. | 15:22 |
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johnthetubaguy | OK, | 15:23 |
johnthetubaguy | so any more on that? | 15:24 |
johnthetubaguy | or shall we move on to QA? | 15:24 |
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matel | OKay. | 15:24 |
BobBall | There were going to be more updates on docs next week - but if Mate has to do the rebasing... ;) | 15:24 |
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BobBall | refactoring* | 15:25 |
BobBall | anywya | 15:25 |
BobBall | move on to QA yeah | 15:25 |
johnthetubaguy | #topic QA and Bugs | 15:25 |
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johnthetubaguy | hows the gating stuff going? | 15:25 |
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matel | Mate will be on Holiday for 10 days starting next week Monday | 15:25 |
BobBall | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1218528 is an interesting one | 15:25 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1218528 in nova "openvswitch-nova in XenServer doesn't work with bonding" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:25 |
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BobBall | oh okay - gating | 15:25 |
BobBall | SS is now automatically commenting with the XS bugs | 15:26 |
johnthetubaguy | lets come back to that one | 15:26 |
BobBall | after we've parsed out the puppet and build failures | 15:26 |
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BobBall | so that's on the road to getting -2 privs for SS | 15:26 |
BobBall | which is great | 15:26 |
BobBall | BUT the infra team are too good | 15:26 |
johnthetubaguy | sweet | 15:26 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, yet are very impressive | 15:26 |
BobBall | or, more importantly, a combination of -infra and tempest | 15:26 |
johnthetubaguy | they^ | 15:26 |
BobBall | now the nodes are running tempest in parallel test times have almost halved | 15:27 |
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johnthetubaguy | tempest would be a much better set of tests to run, because devs can run them | 15:27 |
BobBall | making the plan of SS commenting before tempest completes less useful | 15:27 |
BobBall | It's now much more of a race condition than it was before | 15:27 |
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BobBall | so I'm not happy for SS but of course faster gate checks are better | 15:27 |
BobBall | in terms of where that leaves us... well... it's an interesting one | 15:28 |
johnthetubaguy | well SS still tests XenServer, and that is golden | 15:28 |
johnthetubaguy | without that, we will get pulled out of nova | 15:28 |
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BobBall | I've also been working with RS cloud to get a XS virtualised - which works now | 15:28 |
BobBall | so I'm now thinking about how to get that into HP cloud | 15:28 |
johnthetubaguy | cool, thats a good thing to have | 15:28 |
BobBall | at which point we could run subset of tempest (I'd rather keep it to a subset than the full thing) | 15:28 |
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johnthetubaguy | does tempest work in the RAX cloud now? | 15:29 |
BobBall | and have that integrated in -infra fully | 15:29 |
johnthetubaguy | KVM + HVM should work right? | 15:29 |
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BobBall | can't use RAX because it uses xenstore to pass the IP which we can't get at because we're running Xen in the HVM which would intercept the hypercalls | 15:29 |
BobBall | so until RAX uses configdrive we can't do nested tempest there | 15:29 |
johnthetubaguy | that should be very very soon | 15:29 |
BobBall | in terms of HP, they use DHCP, so if I can get an instance there we can use it | 15:30 |
johnthetubaguy | except it doesn't have the IP address in there for some reason, I need to work on that then | 15:30 |
BobBall | getting an instance there is more fun because HP don't support PXE or iso or image upload... | 15:30 |
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BobBall | *grin* | 15:30 |
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johnthetubaguy | hmm, enjoy | 15:30 |
BobBall | plan is to do something extremely ugly | 15:30 |
BobBall | but quite fun | 15:31 |
BobBall | create centos image - new partition to dump the XS iso on, replace bootloader, kernel, initrd, reboot and pray | 15:31 |
johnthetubaguy | what about testing xenserver-core? | 15:31 |
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johnthetubaguy | hmm, well that could work | 15:31 |
BobBall | xenserver-core has a number of things we're working on fixing ATM. XS is more "certain" than xenserver-core in terms of how confident we are that it'd work | 15:31 |
johnthetubaguy | OK, well keep in touch about the RAX issues, we have a few things in the pipe to fix that soon(ish) at least | 15:32 |
BobBall | well I'd quite like to create that hacky swizzle script | 15:32 |
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BobBall | that way we can replace anything with a XS with the right IP etc | 15:32 |
BobBall | would be very cool | 15:32 |
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BobBall | Althouhg... the next problem would be that infra expect everything to run in the host that you ssh to... so maybe would need redirection to the domU and some weird setups | 15:33 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats the bit I think is worth trying to fix | 15:33 |
johnthetubaguy | hmm, so you could use Rescue mode on RAX to hack around the IP issue | 15:33 |
BobBall | I'm hoping it'll be quite simple - but unless we can get the hard bits done I'm not going to look at that | 15:34 |
johnthetubaguy | mount the disk and inject the IP address, for the moment | 15:34 |
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BobBall | indeed | 15:34 |
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johnthetubaguy | but I think it would be better to fix that issue of integration with infra stuff, rather than getting XenServer running, that should fix its-self in a few days | 15:34 |
johnthetubaguy | but thats just my 2 cents | 15:34 |
BobBall | but if I can get the swizzle working I'd use that to install XS on the RS cloud too | 15:34 |
BobBall | the way it works at the moment (hidden images, PXE boot, custom URL...) is faffy too | 15:35 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, for sure | 15:35 |
johnthetubaguy | anyways, bugs you want to mention | 15:36 |
johnthetubaguy | would be good to set a goal for H-4 too | 15:36 |
BobBall | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1218528 | 15:36 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1218528 in nova "openvswitch-nova in XenServer doesn't work with bonding" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:36 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, I didn't quite get what was going on there, do tell | 15:36 |
johnthetubaguy | some init script running in Dom0?? | 15:36 |
BobBall | indeed | 15:37 |
BobBall | tos et up the firewall rules | 15:37 |
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johnthetubaguy | MAC and IP address stuff? | 15:37 |
johnthetubaguy | anti-spoof? | 15:37 |
matel | https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/plugins/xenserver/networking/etc/init.d | 15:37 |
BobBall | yeah | 15:37 |
johnthetubaguy | hmm, that was written for bridge and nova-network right? | 15:38 |
johnthetubaguy | oh, maybe not | 15:38 |
BobBall | yes | 15:38 |
BobBall | no? | 15:38 |
johnthetubaguy | says OVS | 15:38 |
BobBall | but it is nova-network | 15:39 |
BobBall | I think | 15:39 |
BobBall | yes, of cousre it is | 15:39 |
johnthetubaguy | sure, nova-network flatDHCP with OVS | 15:39 |
BobBall | oh | 15:40 |
BobBall | I've got another fun one | 15:40 |
BobBall | let's talk about it here! | 15:40 |
BobBall | woohoo | 15:40 |
BobBall | TrustedFilter | 15:40 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, that stuff is a mystery to me | 15:40 |
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BobBall | looks at nova's interpretation of a host | 15:40 |
johnthetubaguy | oh right | 15:40 |
BobBall | each service has a host and a node | 15:40 |
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BobBall | with host being set to what the compute reports and node being set to hypervisor_hostname | 15:40 |
BobBall | I think that's plain wrong. | 15:40 |
BobBall | I think it should be the other way round | 15:41 |
BobBall | but changing it probably breaks the world | 15:41 |
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johnthetubaguy | not sure, that stuff was added for baremetal | 15:41 |
johnthetubaguy | host is defiantly nova-compute though | 15:42 |
johnthetubaguy | bug do go on | 15:42 |
johnthetubaguy | you got a link? | 15:42 |
johnthetubaguy | but^ | 15:42 |
BobBall | just getting it | 15:42 |
BobBall | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/host_manager.py#L436 | 15:43 |
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BobBall | My issue is that "host" should be the hypervisor and "node" should be the compute node | 15:43 |
BobBall | but this gets them the wrong way round | 15:43 |
johnthetubaguy | not so sure, the host has always been nova-compute | 15:43 |
BobBall | There are one of two bugs here | 15:43 |
BobBall | either nova has got it wrong | 15:43 |
BobBall | or XenAPI needs to report the DomU name as hypervisor_hostname | 15:44 |
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BobBall | which is completely screwy | 15:44 |
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BobBall | the node has always been the nova-compute too :) | 15:44 |
BobBall | except for XenAPI | 15:44 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, given the current model, I thought it would be both DomU address | 15:44 |
BobBall | so surely we get to chose which way round it is? ;) | 15:44 |
BobBall | it's not | 15:44 |
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johnthetubaguy | Conf.host is the name of the nova-compute | 15:45 |
BobBall | service['host'] is the DomU name | 15:45 |
BobBall | 'hypervisr_hostname' is the hostname | 15:45 |
johnthetubaguy | hmm | 15:45 |
BobBall | it's fine for libvirt | 15:45 |
BobBall | but all other hypervisors have probably got it the other way round | 15:45 |
johnthetubaguy | so the service host has to be what the RPC message goes to | 15:45 |
BobBall | ATM yes | 15:46 |
johnthetubaguy | the node, in baremetal, is the thing the VM is (or in our case, runs on) | 15:46 |
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johnthetubaguy | anyway, we are getting descracted | 15:46 |
BobBall | Is this another question that Mr RB would be good to call in on? just to understand which way round it should be? | 15:46 |
johnthetubaguy | what is the issue with trusted filer? | 15:46 |
BobBall | The problem is the TrustedFilter uses .host | 15:46 |
BobBall | which is the DomU | 15:46 |
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johnthetubaguy | right | 15:47 |
BobBall | and .node "feels" wrong | 15:47 |
johnthetubaguy | well node is the DomU always | 15:47 |
johnthetubaguy | I mean | 15:47 |
BobBall | but if .host really is the compute node and .node really is the host for the VMs then TrustedFilter needs changing | 15:47 |
johnthetubaguy | node is what is running nova-compute | 15:47 |
BobBall | not according to that code :D | 15:47 |
BobBall | .node is the machine | 15:47 |
johnthetubaguy | oh man | 15:47 |
BobBall | .host is nova-compute | 15:47 |
johnthetubaguy | I typed it wrong | 15:47 |
johnthetubaguy | yep, host is nova-compute | 15:47 |
BobBall | which is wrong. Almost as wrong as calling VMs servers... | 15:48 |
johnthetubaguy | node is the specific hypervisor, or baremetal node | 15:48 |
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johnthetubaguy | well depends what you are looking at | 15:48 |
BobBall | So TrustedFilter has it the wrong way round | 15:48 |
johnthetubaguy | nope | 15:48 |
BobBall | yeah - TrustedFilter _MUST_ check the host | 15:48 |
johnthetubaguy | trusted filter is meant to confirm the nova-compute code, I thought? | 15:48 |
BobBall | no | 15:49 |
BobBall | the hypervisor that'll run the VMs | 15:49 |
johnthetubaguy | as well at the KVM hypervisor right? | 15:49 |
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johnthetubaguy | well, in KVM land it would apply to the whole host right? | 15:49 |
BobBall | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/trusted_filter.py#L291 is what I mean | 15:49 |
BobBall | sure - but the thing that can register as trusted is the hypervisor only | 15:49 |
BobBall | even in KVM land there is no trustworthyness of the nova code | 15:50 |
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BobBall | that's never checked | 15:50 |
BobBall | only the hypervisor (I think in KVM it's just kernel and qemu even) | 15:50 |
johnthetubaguy | OK | 15:50 |
johnthetubaguy | so its what the attestation server is confirming | 15:50 |
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BobBall | The attestation service only knows about the hypervisors | 15:50 |
johnthetubaguy | well I think the trusted filter should be checking the other value | 15:50 |
BobBall | it has no knowledge at all about the nova-computes | 15:51 |
johnthetubaguy | that should work for both right? | 15:51 |
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BobBall | who knows :) | 15:51 |
BobBall | maybe | 15:51 |
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BobBall | if we're asserting that in KVMland the two are always the same value | 15:51 |
johnthetubaguy | yep, I am | 15:51 |
johnthetubaguy | I thought that was true for us too, but it makes sense we use the second value | 15:51 |
johnthetubaguy | for a cluster you have nova-compute, hypervisor-x | 15:52 |
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BobBall | yeah | 15:52 |
johnthetubaguy | but bare meta has nova-compute, random-server-for-VM-on-bare-metal-thingy | 15:53 |
johnthetubaguy | anyways | 15:53 |
johnthetubaguy | running out of time | 15:53 |
johnthetubaguy | any other bugs? | 15:53 |
BobBall | yeah | 15:53 |
BobBall | probably | 15:53 |
BobBall | but lets save some of the fun for next week | 15:53 |
johnthetubaguy | What is our goal for H-4? | 15:53 |
johnthetubaguy | I would like to see all medium bugs squashed, is this a crazy idea? | 15:53 |
BobBall | Probably - depending on what they are | 15:54 |
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BobBall | We want to seriously improve the docs | 15:54 |
johnthetubaguy | well, medium as defined by the priority | 15:54 |
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johnthetubaguy | Yes, docs would be a good thing too | 15:54 |
BobBall | I meant depending what the specific bugs are | 15:54 |
johnthetubaguy | Are you Citrix guys concentrating on docs then? | 15:54 |
johnthetubaguy | I am talking about all bugs that impact key features | 15:54 |
BobBall | for the next few weeks yes | 15:55 |
BobBall | but we'll see how that goes | 15:55 |
BobBall | I don't think most of the bugs are as bad as the docs ATM | 15:55 |
BobBall | so that is our priority | 15:55 |
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johnthetubaguy | OK, that sounds good | 15:55 |
johnthetubaguy | I will concentrate on bugs, if you guys are on Docs | 15:55 |
BobBall | Great | 15:55 |
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johnthetubaguy | I will try rope in some help from some other Rax guys too | 15:55 |
johnthetubaguy | we only have a few weeks for bug fixing | 15:56 |
johnthetubaguy | before we get more cautious towards release | 15:56 |
johnthetubaguy | One more thing... | 15:56 |
BobBall | oh yeah | 15:56 |
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johnthetubaguy | testing release candidates, and things | 15:56 |
johnthetubaguy | we should really help out with that, make sure H has good XenServer support | 15:56 |
johnthetubaguy | I mean some testing beyond the CI | 15:57 |
BobBall | I'd much rather get more stuff tested in the CI | 15:57 |
johnthetubaguy | stuff like full tempest (do you run that all the time now?) plus manual testing through the GUI to make sure it all hangs together OK | 15:57 |
BobBall | which is a background thing we've been working on | 15:57 |
BobBall | yes - full tempest is running in the CI and passing | 15:57 |
johnthetubaguy | OK thats good | 15:57 |
matel | I'm just wondering, could we get an account, and report the results? | 15:58 |
johnthetubaguy | I am only talking about half a day playing with the builds manually at RC? | 15:58 |
matel | Voting with +1 ? | 15:58 |
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BobBall | only once we've got the logs auto connected matel | 15:58 |
johnthetubaguy | matel: its open to anyone, so go for it | 15:58 |
johnthetubaguy | BobBall: you can just use paste.openstack.org for the logs | 15:58 |
BobBall | I know - but we need the CI to collect them | 15:58 |
BobBall | which it doesn't yet | 15:58 |
matel | It requires a captcha for big files | 15:58 |
johnthetubaguy | hmm, that sucks | 15:59 |
BobBall | besides which - we've got space we can put it - so no need to use paste | 15:59 |
BobBall | we'll see | 15:59 |
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BobBall | Can we call time? | 16:00 |
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johnthetubaguy | yep | 16:00 |
BobBall | and johnthetubaguy | 16:00 |
BobBall | can I call it? | 16:00 |
johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 4 16:00:52 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2013/xenapi.2013-09-04-15.00.html | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2013/xenapi.2013-09-04-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2013/xenapi.2013-09-04-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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BobBall | damn you :P | 16:00 |
johnthetubaguy | :) | 16:01 |
BobBall | Next week let me #endmeeting if we overrun | 16:01 |
BobBall | I want to test my change to meetbot | 16:01 |
BobBall | just make sure it worked properly in production as well as the tests | 16:01 |
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johnthetubaguy | OK… just test it in alt right? | 16:01 |
BobBall | have to leave the meeting running for an hour | 16:01 |
johnthetubaguy | I can start one now | 16:01 |
BobBall | and I'm likely to forget | 16:01 |
johnthetubaguy | ah, I see | 16:01 |
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jgriffith | #startmeeting cinder | 16:03 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 4 16:03:44 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jgriffith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:03 |
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jgriffith | any cinder peoples about? | 16:03 |
bswartz | hi | 16:04 |
eharney | hello | 16:04 |
* caitlin-nexenta waves | 16:04 | |
DuncanT- | I'm here | 16:04 |
zhiyan | hello | 16:04 |
xyang_ | hi | 16:04 |
kmartin | hi | 16:04 |
DuncanT- | Nothing on the agenda yet | 16:04 |
jgriffith | nope | 16:04 |
skolathu | Hello | 16:04 |
jgriffith | I'll just give some updates and open things up | 16:04 |
jgriffith | was hoping avishay would be around but apparantly he's off on vacation | 16:04 |
jgriffith | #topic reviews | 16:04 |
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DuncanT- | Can I get a quick summary on where we are with the freeze and any exceptions please? | 16:04 |
jgriffith | DuncanT-: :) | 16:04 |
jgriffith | so on that.... | 16:05 |
DuncanT- | (I've not been paying enough attention) | 16:05 |
jgriffith | everything that's been granted an exception thus far is in process | 16:05 |
jgriffith | there's nothing else that I'm planning on accepting especially at this point | 16:05 |
jgriffith | a few things were snuck in, but that's ok | 16:05 |
jjacob512 | hi | 16:05 |
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bswartz | what is the status of https://review.openstack.org/41868 ? | 16:06 |
jgriffith | https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/havana-3 | 16:06 |
jgriffith | So take a look at this list | 16:06 |
jgriffith | these are the items we should be focused on for reviews today | 16:06 |
zhiyan | jgriffith: do you like give some support for landing r/o-volume in nova side? | 16:06 |
jgriffith | zhiyan: I can try | 16:07 |
bswartz | okay cool | 16:07 |
zhiyan | jgriffith: cool | 16:07 |
eharney | what moves blueprints from "needs code review" to "implemented"? is that a big red button jgriffith has on his desk or automatic? | 16:07 |
* jgriffith currenlty | 16:07 | |
jgriffith | eharney: ^^ | 16:07 |
jgriffith | eharney: seems that the launchpad bot isn't very good lately | 16:07 |
jgriffith | eharney: I've been updating status | 16:07 |
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jgriffith | eharney: it is supposed to be automagically picked up by the bots | 16:08 |
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jgriffith | so any changes that are not in the 10 needed reviews on that LP page, please ignore for now :) | 16:08 |
skolathu | jgriffith: wanted to check on the FC plugin support..I had addressed pretty much all comments except the latest that came today morning from Navneet | 16:09 |
jgriffith | We need to focus on the NetApp and Dell EQL changes | 16:09 |
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jgriffith | skolathu: I'm a bit concerned about your timing on that | 16:09 |
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skolathu | jgriffith: Yeah, I know it got a little late. I had been working on the comments during last few days.. | 16:10 |
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skolathu | I am clearing the new comments also now | 16:10 |
skolathu | Hope there won't be any other gating issues | 16:11 |
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jgriffith | Just a reminder today is the cut off for H3 | 16:11 |
jgriffith | thus the concern with rushing something like that through | 16:11 |
jgriffith | skolathu: it doesn't seem like it's ready IMO | 16:11 |
jgriffith | anybody else have thoughts? | 16:12 |
jgriffith | hemna: DuncanT- eharney ? | 16:12 |
kmartin | hemna is driving into the office | 16:13 |
skolathu | jgriffith: I think I can clear all comments till now today. But are you suggesting there has to be more reviews? | 16:13 |
eharney | any h-3 bugs need attention? | 16:13 |
DuncanT- | It still seems to be getting a lot of feedback to me | 16:13 |
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jgriffith | eharney: a few, however the priority is features | 16:14 |
jgriffith | eharney: we have milestones for bugs still :) | 16:14 |
DuncanT- | 56 comments on the latest review... that's enough to make me wary | 16:14 |
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jgriffith | DuncanT-: ? | 16:15 |
eharney | jgriffith: we might as well punt that LVM volume clearing bug off of h-3 at least | 16:15 |
jgriffith | DuncanT-: NM | 16:15 |
DuncanT- | jgriffith: The FC stuff | 16:15 |
jgriffith | DuncanT-: yeah, I'm with ya | 16:15 |
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jgriffith | skolathu: I'm willing to see how it plays out | 16:16 |
jgriffith | eharney: sure | 16:16 |
jgriffith | anyway... my whole point was: The bp's that need review have to be priority today | 16:16 |
jgriffith | there's a lot of complaining lately about review tims | 16:16 |
jgriffith | times | 16:16 |
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jgriffith | I want to remind that submitters are responsible for timely turn around as well | 16:17 |
jgriffith | it goes both ways | 16:17 |
jgriffith | and it will help your karma considerably to do reviews on other peoples code as well | 16:17 |
jgriffith | cinder is not a dumping ground for code/drivers | 16:17 |
jgriffith | any questions/concerns? | 16:18 |
jgriffith | # topic retype | 16:18 |
jgriffith | #topic retype | 16:18 |
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skolathu | jgriffith, DuncanT: I think the new comments are pretty straightforward and should be easy..I'll address them shortly and will see how it goes. | 16:18 |
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jgriffith | so I started working on retype command | 16:18 |
jgriffith | but there's some conflicting views on what this should be | 16:18 |
kmartin | will retype require driver changes? | 16:19 |
jgriffith | my thought was local retype, with no migration | 16:19 |
jgriffith | avishay however submitted a patch that copies that but also makes it do a migration | 16:19 |
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jgriffith | kmartin: it would | 16:19 |
jgriffith | seems to me that it's too late in the game | 16:19 |
kmartin | I agree | 16:19 |
jgriffith | since there's disagreement on what it should do etc | 16:19 |
jgriffith | and I'm also not sure about migration functionality as it is | 16:20 |
kmartin | did the same thing last release with config and half the drivers were broke out of the gate | 16:20 |
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* DuncanT- wants it to do everything. With unicorns on top | 16:20 | |
jgriffith | DuncanT-: quadricorns!!! | 16:20 |
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jgriffith | kmartin: fair | 16:21 |
* DuncanT- starts on a blueprint | 16:21 | |
jgriffith | alright, I'm going to defer it | 16:21 |
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kmartin | jgriffith: +1 | 16:21 |
jgriffith | #topic other questionable bp's | 16:21 |
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jgriffith | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/volume-acl | 16:22 |
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jgriffith | Personally I feel this introduces a good deal of un-needed complexity | 16:22 |
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jgriffith | I'd like to get other people to provide input and feedback | 16:22 |
kmartin | agree | 16:23 |
eharney | how many people have a good understanding of this work at this point? | 16:23 |
* DuncanT- doesn't any more | 16:23 | |
eharney | i know i don't | 16:23 |
kmartin | not me | 16:23 |
jgriffith | ok, sounds to me like this one's out | 16:23 |
jgriffith | agreed? | 16:24 |
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jgriffith | TBH I'd much rather wait and do a proper/clean integration via keystone | 16:24 |
hemna | k | 16:24 |
DuncanT- | Makes sense to me | 16:25 |
zhiyan | jgriffith: sounds good to me | 16:25 |
caitlin-nexenta | Also makes sense to me. Let keystone/nova/whomever worry about this. | 16:25 |
kmartin | +1 | 16:25 |
jgriffith | kk | 16:25 |
jgriffith | so from my perspective everything else on the list right now is a go | 16:26 |
jgriffith | That give us 9 patches as the priority | 16:26 |
jgriffith | anything people see missing from that list, or disagreements with what's there? | 16:26 |
jgriffith | keep in mind the "add tests in test_db api" can be late if need be | 16:26 |
jgriffith | changes to tests are part of feature freeze | 16:27 |
jgriffith | s/are/aren't/ | 16:27 |
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jgriffith | Ok... guess that it then :) | 16:28 |
eharney | one question | 16:28 |
jgriffith | #topic open-discussion | 16:28 |
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jgriffith | eharney: go for it | 16:28 |
eharney | what's the schedule/policy/etc around cinderclient changes at this point? | 16:28 |
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jgriffith | eharney: cinderclient is an open book :) | 16:29 |
jgriffith | eharney: it's not tied to milestones | 16:29 |
topshare | have someone use ceph? | 16:29 |
eharney | good, because i'm probably going to propose something soon | 16:29 |
eharney | thanks | 16:29 |
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jgriffith | eharney: I'll do a tag to pypi later next week and then problem another before final release | 16:29 |
jgriffith | eharney: :) | 16:29 |
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jgriffith | topshare: say what? | 16:29 |
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jgriffith | so I want to spend today and the rest of the week just focusing on H3 | 16:30 |
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jgriffith | we'll start up on some other things like the driver qual etc first thing next week | 16:30 |
jgriffith | I'll get the code up and start talking to folks about some different ideas | 16:31 |
jgriffith | anybody have anything else? | 16:31 |
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* DuncanT- would like to know if anybody considers themselves well versed in policy stuff? | 16:31 | |
jgriffith | DuncanT-: :) | 16:31 |
DuncanT- | (because I unserstand even less than I thought I did) | 16:32 |
jgriffith | DuncanT-: yeah... sadly I thought I knew more than I do there as well | 16:32 |
zhiyan | jgriffith: can you add this to you list: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44455/ | 16:32 |
jgriffith | For everybody's benefit the goal is to figure out how to disable extensions | 16:32 |
guitarzan | some way other than just manually enabling all the extensions you want? | 16:33 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: even that would be fine via policy file | 16:33 |
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eharney | i'm not sure about the context here (something with extend volume right?) | 16:33 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: but I *thought* you could enable/disable specific actions in the volume_actions module | 16:34 |
DuncanT- | Specifically I want to disable extend and only extend | 16:34 |
guitarzan | ah, we disable entire extensions just via cinder.conf | 16:34 |
jgriffith | eharney: yes, be able to disable os-extend | 16:34 |
DuncanT- | I can't find a syntax to do it | 16:34 |
guitarzan | DuncanT-: let me look | 16:34 |
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eharney | you may be able to do it via policy.json | 16:34 |
DuncanT- | Thanks all | 16:34 |
eharney | set rule is_admin etc | 16:34 |
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DuncanT- | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1220752 is the bug | 16:34 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1220752 in cinder "Can't disable extend_volume call via policy" [Undecided,New] | 16:34 |
jgriffith | eharney: that's something I tried but didn't work out the way I'd hoped :) | 16:34 |
jgriffith | eharney: I set a new role "disabled_exts" | 16:35 |
jgriffith | eharney: and assigned that to the extension in the policy file | 16:35 |
jgriffith | eharney: I may have missed something | 16:35 |
eharney | jgriffith: some of the work we just did in Nova also tied whether the extension was enabled to whether you were coming in via publicURL API or adminURL | 16:35 |
eharney | maybe another thing to consider but i'm still kinda fuzzy there on the exact details | 16:35 |
guitarzan | nova's policy engine is smarter than cinders | 16:35 |
jgriffith | eharney: ahhh... | 16:35 |
eharney | ah | 16:35 |
jgriffith | guitarzan: :( | 16:36 |
eharney | there was a bug out there somewhere about porting Cinder to use oslo's policy code but i'm not sure where it ended up | 16:36 |
guitarzan | I saw some of the syntax the cloud servers guys use and it doesn't work in cinder | 16:36 |
jgriffith | eharney: it was a nightmare! | 16:37 |
jgriffith | eharney: I started working on it, then somebody said they wanted to take it.. | 16:37 |
eharney | :) | 16:37 |
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jgriffith | eharney: I think his name started with hem and ended with a | 16:37 |
jgriffith | :) | 16:37 |
guitarzan | it looks like you should be able to do policy out the volume api extend call... | 16:37 |
jgriffith | Ok, let's take that offline and see if we can get it to work as expected | 16:37 |
jgriffith | anything else? | 16:38 |
DuncanT- | Appreciated | 16:38 |
eharney | just thanks for everyone reviewing stuff | 16:38 |
jgriffith | indeed! | 16:38 |
jgriffith | big thank you to EVERYBODY! | 16:38 |
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jgriffith | 3'rd milestone is always hectic | 16:38 |
jgriffith | but this one's going well I think with the soft freeze | 16:39 |
jgriffith | Ok.... one more day of review focus please :) | 16:39 |
jgriffith | remember turn around time on comments/feedback | 16:39 |
jgriffith | and don't be crazy about typos in comments and such at this stage if you can avoid it :) | 16:39 |
jgriffith | thanks everyone! | 16:40 |
jgriffith | #endmeeting cinder | 16:40 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 4 16:40:08 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:40 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2013/cinder.2013-09-04-16.03.html | 16:40 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2013/cinder.2013-09-04-16.03.txt | 16:40 |
jgriffith | DOH!!! | 16:40 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2013/cinder.2013-09-04-16.03.log.html | 16:40 |
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jgriffith | I forgot my game | 16:40 |
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eharney | :) | 16:40 |
jgriffith | bswartz: sorry if I dissappointed :) | 16:40 |
bswartz | jgriffith: it's okay -- I'm working on hacking the bot so it won't matter | 16:40 |
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Subbu_ | jgriffith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43465 would this be reviewed for h3? Hope it is not too late to ask now? | 16:42 |
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jgriffith | Subbu_: it's targetted and in so it's good | 16:43 |
Subbu_ | jgriffith: Thanks for clarifying! Will wait for the reviews. | 16:44 |
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hartsocks | *ahem* | 17:00 |
hartsocks | #startmeeting VMwareAPI | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 4 17:00:51 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hartsocks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vmwareapi' | 17:00 |
hartsocks | greetings stackers! | 17:01 |
hartsocks | Who's online? | 17:01 |
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hartsocks | \o | 17:01 |
tjones | yo | 17:01 |
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hartsocks | Today's the last day to work before feature freeze. I'm sure folks are busy. | 17:02 |
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vuil | hi | 17:02 |
danwent | vuil: perfect, was just planning on pinging you to ask if you were joining :) | 17:03 |
danwent | vui | 17:03 |
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hartsocks | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/VMwareAPI | 17:03 |
hartsocks | This is normally the part of the meeting where I ask about bugs. | 17:04 |
hartsocks | But I think everyone is pretty focused on reviews. | 17:04 |
hartsocks | Why don't we start there? | 17:04 |
danwent | seems smart | 17:04 |
hartsocks | #topic reviews | 17:04 |
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hartsocks | I've been working off of the priority order list we built a while ago... | 17:04 |
hartsocks | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30282/ | 17:04 |
hartsocks | This is the multiple-cluster review... | 17:05 |
hartsocks | It was rev-ed less than an hour ago. | 17:05 |
hartsocks | I'm waiting on the test results from CI before I re-review. | 17:05 |
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danwent | yeah, garyk added some additional tests | 17:06 |
danwent | based on russell's request | 17:06 |
danwent | the good news is that we have the attention of two core reviewers | 17:06 |
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hartsocks | *go team* | 17:07 |
smurugesan | Hey all, Sabari here | 17:07 |
tjones | yeah! and russell said it looks good other than tests | 17:07 |
hartsocks | smurugesan: hey glad you joined. | 17:07 |
hartsocks | Hopefully the last round of CI testing comes back clean and we can just have this merge. | 17:08 |
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smurugesan | I couldn't make it for the last few weeks. Good to be here :D | 17:08 |
DarkSinclair | Greetings Dan, Shawn. When appropriate I'd like to make a request if possible. | 17:08 |
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hartsocks | DarkSinclair: we'll have plenty of open-discussion time at the end this week. | 17:08 |
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hartsocks | Next on my list | 17:08 |
hartsocks | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40105/ | 17:08 |
hartsocks | Merged! | 17:09 |
hartsocks | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40245/ | 17:09 |
dims | Hi all | 17:09 |
hartsocks | waiting to merge it looks like… has 2 +2's and an approve... | 17:09 |
hartsocks | dims: hey. | 17:09 |
hartsocks | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41387/ | 17:10 |
hartsocks | Looks like it's waiting on an approve so it can merge. | 17:10 |
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hartsocks | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41600/ Merged! | 17:10 |
hartsocks | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34903/ | 17:11 |
hartsocks | Deploy vCenter templates | 17:11 |
hartsocks | Â | 17:11 |
danwent | vuil: does it make sense for you to re-rev the template patch yourself? | 17:11 |
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hartsocks | vui: looks like you have a −1 here? | 17:11 |
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hartsocks | vuil: can you address this issue yourself? I think Kiran is travelling. | 17:12 |
vuil | sorry offscreen | 17:12 |
vuil | I am going to rerev the patch. | 17:13 |
hartsocks | vuil: thanks. | 17:13 |
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hartsocks | vuil: if you need help figuring out the process, I'll be around late tonight. | 17:13 |
hartsocks | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37659/ | 17:13 |
vuil | need to tease out what else needed to be done to the vm cloned from the template | 17:14 |
vuil | sure thanks Shawn. | 17:14 |
hartsocks | "Enhance VMware instance disk usage" is recently rev-ed. | 17:14 |
hartsocks | It's on my list to re-review next. | 17:14 |
hartsocks | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37819/ | 17:15 |
hartsocks | sitting idle (that's the image clone stuff) not as important as the other features. | 17:15 |
hartsocks | The three bugs I was tracking are... | 17:15 |
hartsocks | merged except for: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33100/ | 17:16 |
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hartsocks | This is Sabari's .... | 17:16 |
hartsocks | "Fixes host stats for VMWareVCDriver" | 17:16 |
danwent | hartsocks: we should also talk about the second half of the cinder stuff | 17:16 |
smurugesan | yes, I think it's important to show the correct stats to the users | 17:16 |
hartsocks | This is a bug so it can go later. | 17:16 |
danwent | hartsocks: unless i missed that discussion already | 17:16 |
hartsocks | I mentioned them… | 17:16 |
* hartsocks pulls up links | 17:17 | |
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danwent | including: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43465/ | 17:17 |
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hartsocks | nova-side cinder support | 17:17 |
danwent | not the nova side, there is an additional patch that is in cinder that has not really been on our radar | 17:17 |
danwent | it is owned by subbu | 17:17 |
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danwent | but he is based in india, I believe, so if we get feedback from the core cinder team, we could use someone on our team to re-rev that | 17:18 |
hartsocks | ah. | 17:18 |
hartsocks | Adding it to my list. | 17:18 |
hartsocks | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/vmware-vmdk-cinder-driver | 17:19 |
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hartsocks | Looks like ... | 17:19 |
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hartsocks | first review merged, this second one didn't merge yet... | 17:19 |
danwent | hartsocks: exactly | 17:20 |
danwent | I just ping jgriffith and he said it was one of the items the team discussed at their meeting right before us | 17:20 |
hartsocks | danwent: normally, I sit in on jgriffith's meeting … I'll spend some time with this review myself then. | 17:21 |
hartsocks | Any other reviews we need to pay attention to? | 17:21 |
danwent | hartsocks: that is the only I noticed that wasn't on our list already | 17:21 |
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hartsocks | #action vmwareapi team members review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43465/ to support cinder team | 17:22 |
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hartsocks | Hopefully, we don't have to apply for exception on any blueprint patches. I will send out a note after the 5th to the Mailing List if there's a significant miss. | 17:23 |
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hartsocks | anything else on reviews folks want to bring up? | 17:23 |
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hartsocks | Only a few more hours before the 5th. Thanks for staying on top of things! | 17:24 |
hartsocks | #topic bugs | 17:24 |
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smurugesan | I would like some +1 s on the host stats patch that you mentioned last | 17:24 |
hartsocks | #undo | 17:24 |
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hartsocks | #action reviews for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33100/ | 17:25 |
smurugesan | Also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30628/ is a good change that needs to be in | 17:25 |
hartsocks | okay... | 17:26 |
hartsocks | Fortunately, bugs aren't under as much pressure as blueprints (bug fixes can be back ported). | 17:26 |
smurugesan | Good to know that Shawn! | 17:27 |
tjones | and we all love to backport ;-D | 17:27 |
hartsocks | #action give timely follow up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33100/ | 17:27 |
hartsocks | #undo | 17:27 |
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hartsocks | #action give timely follow up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30628/ | 17:27 |
hartsocks | Okay... | 17:28 |
hartsocks | anything else we need to be aware of in front of the feature freeze? | 17:28 |
hartsocks | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/FeatureFreeze | 17:28 |
hartsocks | There is an exception procedure for feature freeze. I hope to not have to use it. | 17:29 |
hartsocks | #topic bugs | 17:29 |
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hartsocks | Any bugs we need to be aware of? (that we aren't already?) | 17:30 |
hartsocks | going once... | 17:30 |
hartsocks | going twice... | 17:30 |
hartsocks | Okay... | 17:30 |
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hartsocks | I think we're all properly focused on getting those critical blueprints through. | 17:31 |
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hartsocks | #topic open discussion | 17:31 |
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hartsocks | The floor is open… what's going on? | 17:31 |
hartsocks | DarkSinclair: ping | 17:32 |
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DarkSinclair | I've had an internal request after an Audit to explore the opportunity of encrypting the vmware virtual center user's password in the nova-compute.conf file. Is this within teh realm of possiblity? | 17:32 |
hartsocks | heh. | 17:32 |
hartsocks | Possible? yes. | 17:33 |
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hartsocks | At the moment you'll have to either… | 17:33 |
hartsocks | use a symmetric cipher | 17:33 |
hartsocks | … that is encrypt the password in the file, then decrypt it in memory right before Python SUDS uses it. | 17:33 |
hartsocks | or... | 17:33 |
hartsocks | we'll have to add SSO support to the driver. | 17:34 |
hartsocks | That's in a blue print for IceHouse... | 17:34 |
* hartsocks digs around for blueprint link. | 17:34 | |
hartsocks | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-sso-support | 17:34 |
DarkSinclair | i was hoping the later ;) The next Audit request is around accountability and ownership, SSO support would alleviate both concerns. | 17:34 |
hartsocks | The vCenter SSO service starting at vSphere 5.1 ... | 17:34 |
hartsocks | allows for holder of key tokens. | 17:34 |
hartsocks | Yep. | 17:35 |
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danwent | DarkSinclair: yeah, this is definitely something we want to work on | 17:35 |
hartsocks | I decided to not try and get SSO into Havana because we were running tight as it was. | 17:35 |
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DarkSinclair | Is it possible to proxy authentication of the logged in Openstack user for vCenter authentication? | 17:35 |
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hartsocks | hm... | 17:36 |
DarkSinclair | it's understood there's no chance for Havana. | 17:36 |
hartsocks | There's a few moving parts there... | 17:36 |
danwent | DarkSinclair: we'll probably provide a way to backport the change | 17:36 |
DarkSinclair | danwent: even better. | 17:36 |
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danwent | but its unlikely that it will be backported to the official branch, unless we can spin it as a security issue | 17:37 |
hartsocks | We should probably have a conversation with some vSphere SSO experts on what the best thing to do is. | 17:37 |
DarkSinclair | My timeline is 6 months to a year, so it aligns with I-release | 17:37 |
hartsocks | There might be something clever we can do with a Keystone plugin either in keystone or in vCenter. | 17:38 |
hartsocks | When you say "proxy" you mean... | 17:38 |
DarkSinclair | does Keystone in havana better support Microsoft AD integration? (i havent checked yet. if so, that would be excellent.) | 17:38 |
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hartsocks | to be honest I've not watched keystone closely this cycle. I'd have to dig in code. | 17:39 |
danwent | DarkSinclair: not sure, but exploring connections of our SSO and keystone is on our list to explore | 17:39 |
hartsocks | Would AD integration in keystone plus AD integration in vCenter (already there in 5.1) be enough to satisfy your req? | 17:39 |
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hartsocks | That would mean there really wouldn't be much integration between keystone and vCenter SSO. | 17:40 |
* russellb waves | 17:40 | |
hartsocks | But… you would have to re-auth on both sides. | 17:40 |
hartsocks | russellb: hei hei! | 17:41 |
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russellb | hartsocks: need anything while i'm around | 17:41 |
russellb | ? | 17:41 |
hartsocks | russellb: we're all anxiously watching those reviews… listed in the channel already. | 17:41 |
danwent | russellb: we really appreciate the work you've been doing on our reviews the past few days | 17:42 |
DarkSinclair | hartsocks: ideally all authentication is against individual users in AD. SSO is already setup and pulling from AD, if we could re-use that from Openstack and keystone, that'd be perfect | 17:42 |
russellb | danwent: np | 17:42 |
russellb | hartsocks: cool, reviewing what i can | 17:43 |
hartsocks | russellb: thanks. | 17:43 |
danwent | looks like jenkins is struggling a bit :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30282/ | 17:43 |
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hartsocks | russellb: and I have been working on your IPC problem in the test harness a bit… :-) | 17:44 |
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russellb | danwent: ah, that neutron thing again :-p | 17:44 |
russellb | though ideally the recheck wouldn't have said "no bug" | 17:44 |
russellb | need to reference the bugs so it's clear how much problems are affecting the gate | 17:44 |
danwent | russellb: agreed | 17:45 |
hartsocks | DarkSinclair: I'll record some of this conversation in the blueprint for discussion in the next design summit. | 17:45 |
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danwent | russellb: we should be available on irc if anything pops up during the day | 17:46 |
hartsocks | russellb: if something/someone is stuck you can ping me | 17:46 |
DarkSinclair | hartsocks: thanks. | 17:46 |
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russellb | hartsocks: danwent ok will do, will ping if i need updates on anything | 17:47 |
russellb | looking over the multiple cluster one again now | 17:48 |
hartsocks | russellb: thanks. | 17:48 |
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hartsocks | Anything else folks need to discuss while we have people's attention? | 17:50 |
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DarkSinclair | Will everything work w/ vSphere 5.5 ? | 17:51 |
DarkSinclair | aka: any known got-chas currently? | 17:51 |
hartsocks | DarkSinclair: we have had testing with 5.5 and so far we've not had anything come back to us. | 17:52 |
DarkSinclair | Perfect. | 17:52 |
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hartsocks | DarkSinclair: we do have an open bug on using more than one dataCenter … but that's not a 5.5 specific thing… and we have a set of proposed fixes for the problem. They aren't blueprints (feature requests) so they've been lower priority for the last week or two. | 17:54 |
hartsocks | DarkSinclair: just a BTW thing. If you use one datacenter things work well. | 17:54 |
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hartsocks | With that, I'll give people back a few minutes. | 17:55 |
hartsocks | Thanks for all your hard work. | 17:55 |
tjones | adios | 17:56 |
vuil | bye | 17:56 |
hartsocks | VMworld and this feature freeze at the same time was a lot to do! | 17:56 |
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hartsocks | See you all next week. | 17:56 |
hartsocks | And we're in #openstack-vmware if you need us. | 17:56 |
hartsocks | #endmeeting | 17:56 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 4 17:56:48 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:56 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2013/vmwareapi.2013-09-04-17.00.html | 17:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2013/vmwareapi.2013-09-04-17.00.txt | 17:56 |
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notmyname | swift meeting time | 19:01 |
notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 19:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 4 19:01:24 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 19:01 |
notmyname | agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 19:01 |
notmyname | who's here? | 19:02 |
portante | o/ | 19:02 |
chmouel | o/ | 19:02 |
* chmouel is back from holidays | 19:02 | |
* creiht looks around | 19:02 | |
notmyname | welcome back :-) | 19:02 |
notmyname | torgomatic: here? | 19:02 |
notmyname | small group here today | 19:03 |
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notmyname | hmm...should we defer until next meeting? | 19:04 |
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notmyname | including zaitcev, that's only 4 of us here | 19:04 |
chmouel | i think that would make sense | 19:04 |
portante | I'd be okay with that | 19:05 |
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notmyname | kk | 19:05 |
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notmyname | #info only 5 of us here, defer the topics until next meeting | 19:06 |
notmyname | thanks for those that are here | 19:07 |
dfg | huh? | 19:07 |
dfg | is meeting cancelled? | 19:07 |
portante | dfg, you make six | 19:07 |
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portante | not many people attending | 19:07 |
notmyname | 5, actually, right? | 19:07 |
creiht | hrm? | 19:07 |
dfg | aren't I being here enough? | 19:07 |
dfg | :) | 19:07 |
creiht | lol | 19:07 |
dfg | i think i should count as 2 | 19:08 |
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notmyname | still doesn't give us many people here | 19:08 |
portante | dfg: does that mean we can give you more tasks? | 19:08 |
portante | ;) | 19:08 |
notmyname | lol | 19:08 |
dfg | no- i'm just a good listener. or ignorer. one of those | 19:09 |
portante | :) | 19:09 |
notmyname | most stuff can probably be handled in the day-to-day IRC. the advantage of talking about it here is it being a place where many people are together | 19:09 |
notmyname | and if not many people are here, let's defer | 19:09 |
dfg | fine with me. see ya | 19:09 |
notmyname | #endmeeting | 19:09 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 4 19:09:46 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:09 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2013/swift.2013-09-04-19.01.html | 19:09 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2013/swift.2013-09-04-19.01.txt | 19:09 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2013/swift.2013-09-04-19.01.log.html | 19:09 |
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shardy | #startmeeting heat | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 4 20:00:29 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shardy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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shardy | #topic rollcall | 20:00 |
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jpeeler | hi | 20:00 |
asalkeld | o/ | 20:00 |
radix | hello! | 20:00 |
sdake_ | o/ | 20:00 |
zaneb | howdy y'all | 20:00 |
m4dcoder | o/ | 20:00 |
adrian_otto | o/ | 20:01 |
spzala | Hi | 20:01 |
sdake_ | feeling ill today may not be all that responsive | 20:01 |
jasond | o/ | 20:01 |
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stevebaker | hi | 20:01 |
sdake_ | watching from bed | 20:01 |
funzo | o/ | 20:01 |
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adrian_otto | sdake: sorry to hear that. I hope you feel better soon. | 20:01 |
sdake_ | thanks adrian | 20:01 |
kebray | hi | 20:01 |
bgorski | o/ | 20:01 |
sdake_ | school plague season | 20:01 |
* sdake_ ughs | 20:01 | |
randallburt | hello | 20:01 |
shardy | Hi all, lets get started | 20:02 |
shardy | hope you feel better soon sdake ;) | 20:02 |
shardy | #topic Review last week's actions | 20:02 |
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sdake_ | fever broke so should be better tomorrow | 20:02 |
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shardy | There was only one, which I think randallburt has in progress | 20:02 |
randallburt | indeed. | 20:02 |
shardy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda | 20:03 |
randallburt | converted to bug so we can track it there from here on out. | 20:03 |
shardy | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2013/heat.2013-08-28-20.00.html | 20:03 |
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shardy | #info andrew_plunk to move Rackspace resources to /contrib directory | 20:03 |
shardy | #action randallburt to move Rackspace resources to /contrib directory | 20:03 |
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radix | I have a question about that | 20:03 |
shardy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1220798 | 20:03 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1220798 in heat "Move Rackspace Resources to contrib" [Medium,Triaged] | 20:04 |
radix | will the feature freeze apply to contrib? | 20:04 |
asalkeld | haha | 20:04 |
shardy | radix: ummm | 20:04 |
asalkeld | radix wants get out of jail free card | 20:04 |
shardy | I think it makes sense for it to apply to the whole tree, we should be moving to test/bugfix mode | 20:04 |
zaneb | radix: maybe you should explain what you're planning ;) | 20:04 |
stevebaker | is contrib included in the tarball? | 20:04 |
radix | well, I'm gonna be working on some of those regardless | 20:05 |
zaneb | stevebaker: definitely IMO | 20:05 |
radix | the Rackspace resources I mean | 20:05 |
radix | sorry I'm on a phone :p | 20:05 |
adrian_otto | yes, contrib should be in the tarball, and the freeze rules should apply to the whole tree. | 20:06 |
shardy | So, just to clarify, we only have a couple of weeks until RC1, at which point master will be open for Icehouse development | 20:06 |
zaneb | so, purely from a Rackspace point of view, I think there would be advantages to testing/bug fixing against a stable set of features | 20:06 |
radix | that's fine | 20:06 |
stevebaker | given that they are self-contained and work with a service on a different release cycle, there could be a case for being more relaxed | 20:06 |
shardy | So my preference is just to pause on the features until we get RC1 branched | 20:06 |
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radix | shardy: oh! OK, good to know | 20:06 |
shardy | any objections or other opinions? | 20:06 |
radix | that's great | 20:06 |
zaneb | shardy: +1 | 20:06 |
stevebaker | shardy: sounds good | 20:07 |
kebray | Is there a target date for branching RC1? | 20:07 |
radix | thanks :) | 20:07 |
shardy | ok, cool, which brings us to; | 20:07 |
shardy | kebray: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Havana_Release_Schedule | 20:07 |
kebray | ah, duh. thx. | 20:07 |
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randallburt | shardy: to clarify, since this is a bug, I can get it in before RC? or are you saying wait until RC. | 20:08 |
shardy | #topic Feature Freeze, final status for h3 | 20:08 |
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shardy | randallburt: yes, it's just features (blueprints) which are frozen | 20:08 |
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shardy | bugs are fine | 20:08 |
randallburt | cool, thought so, just wanted to be sure. | 20:08 |
shardy | So the feature freeze is EOD today, ttx is going to cut the milestone-proposed branch early tomorrow | 20:09 |
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ttx | 2 bp left open | 20:09 |
shardy | There are still quite a few patches we need in to complete the last two bps | 20:10 |
ttx | parallel-delete and vpnaas-support | 20:10 |
shardy | ttx: yup | 20:10 |
asalkeld | so from now on patches have to be cherry picked? | 20:10 |
shardy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/parallel-delete,n,z | 20:10 |
ttx | asalkeld: no | 20:10 |
zaneb | just approved the parallel-delete patch approx 8s ago | 20:10 |
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shardy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/vpnaas-support,n,z | 20:10 |
shardy | zaneb: thanks | 20:10 |
asalkeld | cool thanks ttx | 20:10 |
ttx | asalkeld: the mp branch that will be cut tomorrow is just for h3 | 20:10 |
asalkeld | makes sense | 20:11 |
ttx | master is still used for havana feature freeze exceptions and bugfixes until we do RC1 | 20:11 |
ttx | then master unfreezes | 20:11 |
ttx | makes sure everyone stays focused on the RC buglist | 20:11 |
bgorski | sorry i had some technical problems | 20:11 |
bgorski | what about the vpnaas patch? | 20:12 |
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shardy | So, we need some reviews for vpnaas, and for those up over the next few hours to keep an eye incase stuff needs rebasing | 20:12 |
shardy | but overall we're looking in pretty good shape | 20:12 |
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bgorski | So the patch with requirements changes is merged already? | 20:13 |
ttx | shardy: do you think those las two will make it in hte nex thours ? | 20:13 |
stevebaker | are we considering extensions for any features that miss the boat? | 20:13 |
bgorski | If so I will rebase my patches | 20:13 |
shardy | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/havana-3 | 20:13 |
ttx | shardy: or do you plan to require exceptions for them ? | 20:13 |
shardy | ttx: I hope so, but it depends on the gate (and reviews for the vpnaas, although I've +2'd them all) | 20:13 |
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shardy | bgorski: Your patches need rebasing over the trusts patch which bumps keystoneclient | 20:14 |
ttx | shardy: if all it needs is a couple more hours it's fine for FFE. It's just slightly inconvenient that they miss the H3 boat | 20:14 |
shardy | ttx: Ok, well if necessary we may need a FFE for parallel-delete and vpnaas | 20:15 |
ttx | ok noted | 20:15 |
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shardy | ttx: I bumped as-update-policy as it was just getting too late | 20:16 |
ttx | shardy: ack | 20:16 |
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shardy | Anyone have anything to add, or any questions? | 20:16 |
ttx | vpnaas is a no brainer since it's well contained | 20:17 |
asalkeld | bgorski, there seems to be a requiresments change needed? | 20:17 |
shardy | ttx: agree, patches all lgtm too | 20:17 |
ttx | parallel-delete is slightly more invasive but I guess it's worth it | 20:17 |
shardy | nice work bgorski | 20:17 |
ttx | as long as they merge in the next days we should be fine for FFE | 20:18 |
asalkeld | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44892/ | 20:18 |
ttx | in case they need one | 20:18 |
shardy | Nice work everyone on h3, we've got through a huge pile of bps and bugs, really great work :) | 20:18 |
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stevebaker | \o/ | 20:18 |
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shardy | asalkeld: no it needs rebasing on my bumped keystoneclient version | 20:19 |
asalkeld | ok, cool | 20:19 |
stevebaker | we should probably do those requirements version changes in separate commits | 20:19 |
shardy | stevebaker: rather than in the commit which requires them? | 20:20 |
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shardy | stevebaker: I think that happened anyway for neutronclient, but I bumped keystoneclient in the trusts patch | 20:20 |
stevebaker | well, I'm talking about the automatic requirements changes that happen just by running devstack | 20:20 |
asalkeld | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44957/ | 20:20 |
stevebaker | if it is coupled to the code, then ignore me | 20:20 |
bgorski | asalkeld: thx, I a little bit distructed but I'm trying to keep up with you guys | 20:21 |
shardy | asalkeld: Yeah, the same bump happens in the first vpnaas patch, but shouldn't conflict | 20:22 |
shardy | oh that needs a rebase anyway | 20:22 |
* SpamapS o/ | 20:22 | |
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shardy | asalkeld, stevebaker: are you in a position to pull some of these and re-propose if needed, if there are simple rebases that need to happen over the next few hours? | 20:23 |
asalkeld | sure | 20:23 |
shardy | or should we just let things slip and use the FFEs to get them in later? | 20:23 |
stevebaker | yep, we can nurse them in | 20:23 |
shardy | stevebaker: Ok, cool, probably easier if possible | 20:23 |
shardy | thanks | 20:23 |
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shardy | Ok, on to open discussion, or anything remaining re h3? | 20:24 |
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shardy | #topic Open Discussion | 20:25 |
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shardy | Anyone have anything to raise? | 20:25 |
stevebaker | shall we talk docs next week? | 20:25 |
asalkeld | shardy, we really need deployment guide | 20:25 |
asalkeld | snap | 20:25 |
shardy | stevebaker: yup, need a docs sprint soon | 20:25 |
stevebaker | deployment guide should really be integrated with the docs.openstack.org one | 20:26 |
shardy | although the template orientated docs are already looking really good, so kudos to all who made that happen :) | 20:26 |
asalkeld | btw I am off for 3 weeks from the end of this week | 20:26 |
shardy | asalkeld: nice! :) | 20:26 |
SpamapS | I am curious about HOT templates. | 20:26 |
zaneb | stevebaker: I've been thinking about the multi-region stuff | 20:26 |
SpamapS | the heat-templates repo currently has only 2 | 20:26 |
stevebaker | zaneb: yes? | 20:26 |
radix | oh no! we'll miss you asalkeld :) | 20:26 |
shardy | SpamapS: more would be good | 20:27 |
zaneb | stevebaker: I think configuring the region always makes sense, so we should go ahead with that change... | 20:27 |
radix | well we could auto convert a bunch couldn't we? | 20:27 |
SpamapS | I think as part of the test/fix/document effort we should put special emphasis on writing HOT templates. | 20:27 |
SpamapS | and using HOT in examples. | 20:27 |
zaneb | stevebaker: but, I also think the multi-region thing makes sense *provided* it's only used for stand-alone Heat installations | 20:27 |
stevebaker | SpamapS: +1 | 20:27 |
SpamapS | But.. is it.. stable enough for that? | 20:27 |
randallburt | we've been working on several HOT templates. There are a couple of repos out on github we can pull from and consolodate | 20:27 |
shardy | SpamapS: I think the example templates can follow the docs (which look nearly there atm) | 20:27 |
SpamapS | I was thinking I'd start by converting tripleo-heat-templates to HOT. | 20:28 |
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shardy | SpamapS: but go for it if you want to contribute some :) | 20:28 |
randallburt | They seem to be working fine so far | 20:28 |
shardy | SpamapS: cool, sounds good | 20:28 |
zaneb | stevebaker: so I'd support adding that as well, as long as it's something configured in the config file. preferably using a different middleware. | 20:28 |
stevebaker | zaneb: hmm, that sounds fine. it could either go into the auth_password middleware or something else in the standalone pipeline | 20:28 |
shardy | randallburt: Ok if you have stuff you can contribute to heat-templates that would be great | 20:29 |
stevebaker | and better yet, its *obviously* a bug ;) | 20:29 |
zaneb | stevebaker: my thoughts exactly ;) | 20:29 |
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randallburt | shardy: will do | 20:30 |
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shardy | more provider template examples would be really good too | 20:31 |
stevebaker | shardy: how will heatclient know not to send credentials on create when trusts are enabled? | 20:31 |
spzala | randallburt: cool. Are those new HOT templates? or converting existing ones? | 20:31 |
shardy | stevebaker: It still sends credentials | 20:32 |
shardy | stevebaker: we just create a trust internally instead of storing them | 20:32 |
randallburt | shardy: those might be a little broken atm wrt HOT. we're investigating now | 20:32 |
stevebaker | but it doesn't strictly need to does it? because the trust is created from the token? | 20:32 |
shardy | randallburt: Ok, pls raise bugs with details | 20:33 |
shardy | stevebaker: well you need to pass either user/pass, or token | 20:33 |
shardy | then that's used to create the trust, which we store the ID of | 20:33 |
randallburt | will do when I figure out what's going on. its in the refactored attribute/property schema conversion code somewhere I think. | 20:33 |
SpamapS | seems like a follow up to heatclient would be to try w/o creds first | 20:33 |
adrian_otto | we should consider adding a feature to suppress sending of credentials when trusts are used, and probably a hot expression to enable that so the template itself can indicate that heatclient should act that way. | 20:33 |
shardy | trusts does *not* mean heatclient works without credentials! | 20:34 |
shardy | where are people getting that from? | 20:34 |
adrian_otto | no, it does not need to send them after it's using a trust | 20:34 |
SpamapS | seems logical to me | 20:34 |
adrian_otto | so sending them when a trust is in play is redundant | 20:34 |
adrian_otto | right? | 20:35 |
shardy | adrian_otto: that's wrong, all it means is that we no longer store the username and password | 20:35 |
SpamapS | shardy: why do we keep sending it to Heat though? | 20:35 |
stevebaker | shardy: currently on create, credentials are sent to keystone, then token *and* credentials are sent to heat | 20:35 |
shardy | and that deferred operations now work with token auth, not just user/password | 20:35 |
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zaneb | shardy: surely you can just send a token, not the username/pass | 20:35 |
SpamapS | shardy: shouldn't we just .. trust .. that stacks we created have a trust, and talk to heat using our heat token? | 20:35 |
stevebaker | ideally it should be credentials to keystone, then only a token to heat | 20:35 |
shardy | stevebaker: yeah, we only need the token when trusts are enabled | 20:35 |
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shardy | thats the other big enhancement, over not storing creds | 20:36 |
asalkeld | is there a way to check if the cloud you are talking to supports trusts? | 20:36 |
asalkeld | (via api) | 20:36 |
SpamapS | Right so it seems to me that we should be able to try to operate with token.. and if that fails.. fall back to u/p | 20:36 |
shardy | SpamapS: you can talk to heat with whatever credentials or token you like as long as keystone will validate it | 20:36 |
shardy | what you authenticate against the heat API with has nothing to do with trusts (which we just use internally) | 20:37 |
stevebaker | so I think SpamapS is right, heatclient can attempt without creds first, then with on failure | 20:37 |
shardy | asalkeld: You could try to read the OS-TRUST path of the v3 keystone API | 20:37 |
shardy | but atm we expect deployers to enable it via a config file option | 20:38 |
radix | could heat grow an api that allows users to pass in a trust and no u/p? | 20:38 |
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asalkeld | just thinking of the multicloud option | 20:38 |
zaneb | shardy: other services only allow token auth though, right? | 20:38 |
SpamapS | radix: I was hoping that was how it would work actually. | 20:38 |
shardy | stevebaker: when you say creds, you mean user/password right? | 20:38 |
stevebaker | shardy: yes | 20:38 |
stevebaker | radix: we may need something like that if we add oauth | 20:39 |
shardy | as a bearer token is a credential in my mind, which is why I'm confused | 20:39 |
SpamapS | AFAIK, trusts are behind the scene right now. | 20:39 |
SpamapS | but they certainly could be something that heatclient fetches itself from keystone, and gives to heat, right? | 20:39 |
shardy | Ok, so *yes* trusts should allow Heat to work properly, including deferred operations like AutoScaling with token-only auth | 20:39 |
stevebaker | shardy: ah, sorry. | 20:39 |
shardy | phew | 20:39 |
shardy | SpamapS: no, the user passes either a token or user/pass to heat, then *heat* creates the trust internally | 20:40 |
radix | hm. OK | 20:41 |
shardy | then we store the ID of that trust, and use it to impersonate the stack creator, e.g when we create an instance for AutoScaling | 20:41 |
SpamapS | shardy: I know that is how it works now. I am hoping that we can let the client do the trust creating and heat will never be made aware of the user/pass.. eventually. :) | 20:41 |
shardy | SpamapS: you mean pass a trust ID to heat via the API? | 20:41 |
SpamapS | Yes. | 20:41 |
adrian_otto | +1 | 20:41 |
shardy | SpamapS: yes, that should be pretty easy to add now | 20:41 |
SpamapS | shardy: seems like it would require a bunch of work in heatclient and inside heat, and would be a good candidate for early icehouse :) | 20:42 |
zaneb | +1 | 20:42 |
shardy | SpamapS: yeah, I was thinking pretty easy when it hits the engine.. | 20:42 |
stevebaker | yo | 20:42 |
SpamapS | shardy: the only real benefit though is improved security for usernames and passwords... I think. | 20:43 |
shardy | SpamapS: Ok, I'll raise a BP and we can discuss this at summit | 20:43 |
shardy | SpamapS: why can you just pass a token? | 20:43 |
shardy | which works now? | 20:43 |
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radix | trusts are revokable too, right? | 20:43 |
shardy | radix: yes | 20:44 |
SpamapS | shardy: pass a keystone-access token which enables you to create the trust? If that works, cool.. didn't think it would. | 20:44 |
shardy | SpamapS: that works now, with what was merged today | 20:44 |
shardy | (hopefully ;) | 20:44 |
SpamapS | "in theory" | 20:44 |
stevebaker | hey, I need to go now | 20:45 |
SpamapS | well then that would mean only temporary secrets being passed around.. which is a win, IMO. | 20:45 |
shardy | <disclaimer> etc ;D | 20:45 |
zaneb | stevebaker: o/ | 20:45 |
shardy | SpamapS: yeah, it's a step in the right direction | 20:45 |
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shardy | stevebaker: o/ | 20:45 |
SpamapS | shardy: well hopefully we have all gained clarity on the situation. Thanks. | 20:45 |
radix | so is it possible to get full functionality out of heat and autoscale without giving heat a u/p? | 20:45 |
SpamapS | radix: sounds like "yes in theory" | 20:45 |
radix | great | 20:46 |
SpamapS | but that heatclient still passes u/p "because" | 20:46 |
shardy | SpamapS: cool, everyone keep firing questions at me over the next few weeks as you try this stuff out, hopefully we can gain collective knowledge and test exposure :) | 20:46 |
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shardy | radix: Yes, but it's not very well tested yet as it was only merged today :) | 20:47 |
radix | sure :) | 20:47 |
shardy | SpamapS: we should add a token-only option to heatclient if one doesn't already exist | 20:48 |
shardy | anyone have anything else to raise for the last 10mins? | 20:48 |
SpamapS | I would like to raise that you are all ninjas.<EOM /> | 20:49 |
radix | nup | 20:49 |
zaneb | SpamapS: rofl | 20:49 |
shardy | Ok, well we can wrap up early then | 20:49 |
shardy | great work everyone :) | 20:50 |
zaneb | woohoo! | 20:50 |
shardy | #endmeeting | 20:50 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2013/heat.2013-09-04-20.00.html | 20:50 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2013/heat.2013-09-04-20.00.txt | 20:50 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2013/heat.2013-09-04-20.00.log.html | 20:50 |
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sarob_ | reed: you there? | 23:01 |
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sarob | :( | 23:06 |
MarkAtwood | the community meeting is now? | 23:06 |
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sarob | reed: yo | 23:10 |
reed | hi there | 23:11 |
reed | meeting time? | 23:11 |
reed | Tom is lost in a Russian embassy | 23:11 |
sarob | ekk | 23:11 |
sarob | i just sent the community track gsheet link | 23:12 |
reed | you can't wait to hear the full story, can you? :) | 23:12 |
sarob | umm, nope | 23:12 |
reed | ahahah | 23:12 |
sarob | i had a former manager get held at the canadian border for 6 hours | 23:12 |
sarob | that was a good one | 23:12 |
sarob | canadians didnt want his kind | 23:13 |
reed | maybe I should start the meeting, it'll be a fast one :) | 23:13 |
reed | #startmeeting openstack-community | 23:13 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 4 23:13:39 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is reed. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 23:13 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 23:13 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_community' | 23:13 |
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reed | #topic past action items | 23:13 |
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reed | reed to organize the event before Sep 14 -- done | 23:14 |
reed | #info we have the Ask OpenStack meeting scheduled for Thursday (tomorrow) at 6pm PDT on IRC #openstack-community | 23:15 |
reed | spread the word, please | 23:15 |
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fifieldt | hi reed | 23:15 |
fifieldt | sorry I'm late - russian embassy took longer than expected | 23:15 |
reed | oh, did they deny asylum ? | 23:15 |
reed | :) | 23:15 |
Hoangg | Free Traffic For Your Web Join Free http://www.te4everyone.com/index.php?ref=19 | 23:16 |
fifieldt | hahaha :) | 23:16 |
reed | ah, we have a spammer | 23:16 |
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fifieldt | now to finx the syntax for ban :s | 23:16 |
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sarob | block? i think | 23:16 |
reed | fifieldt, we were reviewing past action items | 23:17 |
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reed | there we are, it left | 23:17 |
reed | but it makes sense that spammers target the channels that are logged with a web archive | 23:18 |
reed | geez, so smart and so useless | 23:18 |
reed | in the todo was: fifieldt to give a first stab at drafting the blog post for the training sprint | 23:18 |
fifieldt | I started the post | 23:18 |
fifieldt | it's not finished, sadly | 23:18 |
reed | what's the deadline for that? | 23:18 |
* fifieldt looks to sarob | 23:19 | |
fifieldt | I wrote up a bunch of text to introduce the community training project, since maybe not everyone knows about it yet | 23:19 |
reed | indeed, good way to start | 23:19 |
fifieldt | """The OpenStack Community Training project aims to provide community-generated manuals, to enable skill development for maintaining, consuming, and contributing to OpenStack. Started by a group of people in San Francisco, USA, led by Sean Roberts and Colin McNamara, the team is expanding and looking for new members.""" | 23:19 |
sarob | where did it be? | 23:19 |
sarob | collab on gdoc? | 23:20 |
reed | sarob, for openstack.org/blog | 23:20 |
sarob | or email? | 23:20 |
sarob | either good for sarob | 23:20 |
reed | email is bad | 23:20 |
sarob | bad email, bad | 23:20 |
sarob | gdoc then? | 23:20 |
reed | #info email is bad | 23:20 |
* sarob snick snicker | 23:21 | |
fifieldt | how about https://etherpad.openstack.org/CommunityTrainingBlogPost ? | 23:21 |
sarob | roger that | 23:21 |
reed | etherpad is good | 23:21 |
reed | #info etherpad is good | 23:21 |
reed | :) | 23:21 |
fifieldt | #info it's lovely weather in the bay area right now | 23:21 |
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reed | I haven't had time to look at changes in askbot to pass them to clarkb | 23:22 |
sarob | very | 23:22 |
reed | #action reed to look at the recent changes in askbot and pass data to clarkb. Low priority. | 23:22 |
reed | this ends the review for past action items | 23:22 |
reed | #TOPIC STATUS UPDATE | 23:22 |
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reed | silly caps-lock | 23:23 |
reed | i'm reviewing a bunch of bug fixes from zagile for the Community Insights, a new release is expected for some time next week | 23:23 |
* sarob all this yelling... | 23:23 | |
reed | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-community/+bugs?field.tag=wikidsmart | 23:24 |
fifieldt | from me - 2nd ambassador program post went live, with a subtle link to the application form | 23:24 |
fifieldt | #link http://www.openstack.org/blog/2013/08/ambassador-program-specifics/ | 23:24 |
fifieldt | 19 applications so far (5 from the same person, so really 14 crazy people) | 23:24 |
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reed | :) | 23:25 |
fifieldt | since there's been only positive feedback I need to do a proper call for people | 23:25 |
sarob | so i should submit more than one application? | 23:25 |
sarob | geez, who knew? | 23:25 |
fifieldt | but want to get some more ideas down on the wiki first | 23:25 |
fifieldt | that's all for ambassador program status | 23:26 |
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fifieldt | I'd like to enquire as to status of launchpad answers migration, and any other askbot things | 23:27 |
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reed | I made no progress on that, sorry | 23:27 |
fifieldt | no problems! | 23:27 |
fifieldt | also, I note the enthusiast badge bug is fixed :) | 23:27 |
reed | indeed | 23:27 |
reed | I think the askbot system is working decently now | 23:27 |
fifieldt | agreed | 23:28 |
reed | I think Atul is right and we do need to focus on quality from now on | 23:28 |
reed | at least for a while | 23:28 |
fifieldt | yay for koolhead17 | 23:28 |
reed | btw, fifieldt, get to Rackspace if you're not too sleepy and go out for drinks later | 23:28 |
reed | koolhead17 and notmyname are around | 23:29 |
fifieldt | hah, I will think about that, tempered with the fact I've not slept for 30 hours :) | 23:29 |
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fifieldt | sf rockin' | 23:29 |
koolhead17 | hi all | 23:29 |
fifieldt | koolhead17, this is our community team meeting | 23:30 |
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fifieldt | we were just talking about the status of askbot | 23:30 |
koolhead17 | fifieldt: w0ot. Better come over we all are here | 23:30 |
koolhead17 | :D | 23:30 |
reed | on the Travel Program: we have notified all applicants, most of them replied. I'll have a meeting tomorrow with Lauren, Tom and Claire to sync up the status. Will probably be able to report the results next week. | 23:31 |
reed | started to look at the speaking proposals for the tracks at the summit | 23:31 |
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reed | #info Groups portal: started working on the UX design, things are moving along | 23:32 |
koolhead17 | coooool | 23:32 |
sarob | excellent, cant wait | 23:33 |
reed | yeah, me too... | 23:33 |
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reed | I need to go soon | 23:35 |
reed | anything else to discuss? | 23:35 |
sarob | nope | 23:35 |
koolhead17 | reed: yes we have started beer bash here :D | 23:35 |
reed | shhh | 23:35 |
reed | we're being logged | 23:35 |
reed | #endmeeting | 23:35 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 4 23:35:53 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_community/2013/openstack_community.2013-09-04-23.13.html | 23:35 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_community/2013/openstack_community.2013-09-04-23.13.txt | 23:35 |
koolhead17 | reed: no :P | 23:35 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_community/2013/openstack_community.2013-09-04-23.13.log.html | 23:35 |
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koolhead17 | sarob: pinged you couple of times, let me know when your free, can chat | 23:36 |
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sarob | can now | 23:36 |
* sarob no beer though | 23:36 | |
* sarob :( | 23:36 | |
koolhead17 | sarob: you could have come here. :D | 23:37 |
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sarob | i gots my boy's football practice to go to in 15 | 23:37 |
sarob | otherwise id be there! | 23:37 |
sarob | whats up? | 23:37 |
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* sarob glup glug glug | 23:39 | |
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sarob | koolhead17: keg roll over you? | 23:41 |
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