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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 13 16:00:45 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| NikolayM | hi! | 16:00 |
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| rakhmerov | hi everyone | 16:00 |
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| rakhmerov | let's start our meeting | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | as usually here's the agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda | 16:01 |
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| tnurlygayanov | Hi there) | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | hi! | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | we had a long holiday season so there wasn't a lot of activities | 16:03 |
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| gokrokve | hi | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | generally, right before the holidays we decided to implement some additional things that should be included into PoC | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | hi gokrokve! | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | how are you? | 16:04 |
| gokrokve | doing well. | 16:04 |
| gokrokve | Thanks | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | ok ) | 16:05 |
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| rakhmerov | briefly describing what these new features are I can say that it's mostly related with DSL | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | we want to add direct transitions between tasks | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | as opposed to our current approach where we just define dependencies (similar to makefile) between tasks | 16:06 |
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| rakhmerov | we also want to add conditional expressions for both dependency declarations and direct transition declarations | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | and since we need conditional expressions we'll have to implement Data Flow | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | here is the etherpad that summarizes all these things: | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | #info https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-poc | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | for now we decided to proceed with option #3 which is a hybrid of dependencies and direct transitions | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | unless we change this decision today | 16:08 |
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| gokrokve | Lets keep #3 for now. | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:09 |
| gokrokve | When dwill you have this implemented? | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | my estimation was 2 weeks | 16:10 |
| gokrokve | s/dwill/will | 16:10 |
| gokrokve | ok | 16:10 |
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| rakhmerov | so it means the end of the next week | 16:10 |
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| rakhmerov | so, do we have any concerns about new DSL syntax or anything else? | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | maybe suggestions on how to improve it | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | #action proceed with option #3 in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-poc | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | while you're thinking I'll tell you briefly about the current status | 16:12 |
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| rakhmerov | so now we have implemented the simple model with declaring dependencies between tasks | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | we have a REST action | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | we have a very simple demo that demonstrates that | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | we also have required code to call periodic tasks related to real OpenStack calls | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | I mean keystone trusts | 16:14 |
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| rakhmerov | our QA team has also implemented basic tempest test suite for Mistral API | 16:15 |
| tnurlygayanov | rakhmerov, can you please tell how to obtain the demo? Is it demo app in mistral repository or something else? | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | for the last couple of days we've been refactoring our current engine implementation a little bit | 16:15 |
| tnurlygayanov | yes, tempest tests for Mistral can be found by the following link: https://github.com/Mirantis/tempest/tree/platform/stable/havana/tempest/api/mistral | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | tnurlygayanov, currently it's a part of the same repository | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | give me a second, I'll find a link | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | here it is: https://github.com/stackforge/mistral/tree/master/mistral-demo-app | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | btw, I was going to request a new repository for this | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | I thought it would be called like "mistral-samples" | 16:17 |
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| rakhmerov | but there was an idea to create a repo "mistral-ext" for all additional things we might want to have | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | including examples | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | we can actually make this decision right now | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | I already request a new repo "mistral-pythonclient", it's being reviewed | 16:19 |
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| rakhmerov | requested.. | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63876/ | 16:19 |
| tnurlygayanov | rakhmerov, python-mistralclient will be more 'OpenStack-like' | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | wow, I confused the name | 16:20 |
| tnurlygayanov | ok | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | it is python-mistralclient, right | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | it now has -1 but the comment has already been addresed | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | Jeremy just needs to take a look at it again | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | I'll ping him today | 16:21 |
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| rakhmerov | so what about "mistral-ext" or "mistral-extensions" ? | 16:21 |
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| rakhmerov | it can include sample applications, some additional tools maybe | 16:21 |
| NikolayM | maybe mistral-extra ? | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:22 |
| tnurlygayanov | mistral-extensions looks good. | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | I like it a little bit better too | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | it looks more explicit | 16:23 |
| fungi | rakhmerov: i'll go back over it | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, thanks | 16:23 |
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| NikolayM | there is already existing repo *-extra for savanna | 16:24 |
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| ativelkov | why would we need a separate repo for examples? | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | because we don't want to mix them with the core project itself | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | physically it should be a different storage I think | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | basically, demo apps are clients of Mistral, not a part of it | 16:26 |
| NikolayM | yes | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | and we may have many of them | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM, what does savanna-extra contain? | 16:27 |
| NikolayM | it contains some additional image-elements (or contained before) and there was patch for hadoop swiftFS | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | so, mistral-extra or mistral-extensions? | 16:29 |
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| rakhmerov | no big difference to me | 16:29 |
| NikolayM | om,there are examples in savanna-extra | 16:30 |
| gokrokve | It will be great to have plugins in Mistral. | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | you mean in this new repo? | 16:31 |
| gokrokve | It is better to have pluggable mechanism at the beginning. | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | generally, yes, I agree, we were planning to have plugins for Mistral | 16:31 |
| gokrokve | Col | 16:31 |
| gokrokve | Cool | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | ok, I would suggest we proceed with "mistral-extra" then | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | it will be aligned with savanna naming | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | #action create new repo "mistral-extra" to move demo applications into it | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | so getting back to DSL changes | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | is everyone ok with them? | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | if yes, we'll start implementing them shortly | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | we don't have much time, we need to get it done as soon as possible | 16:34 |
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| NikolayM | what about task property names in DSL? | 16:34 |
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| NikolayM | escpecially 'OnSuccess' and 'OnError'? | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | what exactly? | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | ooh | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | ok, initially we suggested just "SUCCESS" and "ERROR" | 16:35 |
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| rakhmerov | two sections to describe what we do next in case if a task succeeded or failed | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | but some folks didn't like "SUCCESS" and "ERROR" :) | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | and suggested "OnSuccess" and "OnError" | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | I'm ok with both options, there was just a concern that "OnXXX" means that they are mutually exclusive | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | and in case we don't have "On" prefix we can define a logic to handle, for example, an error locally without jumping over tasks in a workflow | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | but to me it seems to be similar | 16:39 |
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| rakhmerov | "OnSuccess" and "OnError" may be more readable | 16:39 |
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| joel_c1 | rakhmerov: I agree that 'onXXX' is more readable | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | and semantically it can mean both "mutual exclusive" or "sequential" | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | joel_c1, glad to see you here :) | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | thanks, yes | 16:40 |
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| rakhmerov | so we decided then? | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | "OnSuccess" and "OnError" | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:42 |
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| NikolayM | I agree with 'OnXXX' | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | #action proceed with names "OnSuccess" and "OnError" for task sections to describe what to do in case of success and failure | 16:42 |
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| rakhmerov | guys, is there anything else that you would like to discuss today? | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | if no, I would suggest we finish for today. Looks like we have a plan to go with | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | alright, thanks to everyone | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | I'll see you next Monday | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 13 16:45:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-01-13-16.00.html | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-01-13-16.00.txt | 16:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-01-13-16.00.log.html | 16:45 |
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| NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | #chair devananda | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 13 19:00:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | Welcome everyone to the Ironic meeting. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 19:00 |
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| NobodyCam | Welcome back everyone | 19:00 |
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| NobodyCam | who's here for the ironic meeting | 19:00 |
| lucasagomes | o/ | 19:00 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 19:00 |
| agordeev1 | o/ | 19:00 |
| * devananda waves from Australia | 19:00 | |
| ifarkas | o/ | 19:00 |
| matty_dubs | \o | 19:00 |
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| rloo | o/ | 19:01 |
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| NobodyCam | welcome everyone | 19:01 |
| k4n0 | o/ | 19:01 |
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| max_lobur | o/ | 19:01 |
| vaibhav | o/ | 19:01 |
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| NobodyCam | #topic announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:01 | |
| NobodyCam | Icehouse release progress // graduation? | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: is that you? | 19:02 |
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| devananda | well. it's all of us :) | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:02 |
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| devananda | tl;dr - the TC is going to be looking at all the incubated projects this week | 19:03 |
| devananda | to guage progress towards graduation | 19:03 |
| haomeng2 | me:) | 19:03 |
| devananda | particularly to compare everything to the newly-approved guidelines | 19:03 |
| devananda | which, in case folks haven't seen them, are here | 19:03 |
| devananda | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/incubation-integration-requirements | 19:03 |
| dkehn | devananda: do you hae a link to the new guidelines? | 19:03 |
| dkehn | devananda: nevermind | 19:04 |
| devananda | :) | 19:04 |
| devananda | i also want to remind / inform folks taht we, as a project, need to start being better about how we communicate our plans | 19:04 |
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| devananda | which is done by targeting thigns (bugs, BPs, etc) towards releases and milestones | 19:04 |
| devananda | you can see what's targeted here: | 19:05 |
| devananda | #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/icehouse | 19:05 |
| devananda | and | 19:05 |
| devananda | #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 19:05 |
| devananda | anyone should be able to set the "target" for bugs | 19:05 |
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| devananda | with I2 coming up, I'd like to take a few minutes to review the targeted things, particularly BPs | 19:06 |
| devananda | and see if we need to retarget anything | 19:06 |
| devananda | #topic Blueprints for I2 milestone | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints for I2 milestone (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:07 | |
| devananda | let's jsut go down the list | 19:07 |
| devananda | dkehn: hi! | 19:07 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: add-neutron-support is it really essential? | 19:07 |
| dkehn | devananda: hi | 19:07 |
| devananda | dkehn: you've got a patch up for neutron. is there much more to do? | 19:07 |
| devananda | dkehn: or does it just need testing? | 19:07 |
| dkehn | It just needs testing, as you can see | 19:08 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: without neutron support, tripleo won't be able to use ironic. so, IMO, yes. | 19:08 |
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| devananda | dkehn: great. want to update the BP status? | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: ack | 19:08 |
| dkehn | there is more tessting code that actual code, and I ran out of time to complete it all | 19:08 |
| dkehn | I will be working on it but this week is the neutron sprint in Montreal | 19:09 |
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| dkehn | so there will be limited time to complete until I get back | 19:09 |
| dkehn | assuming I get back | 19:09 |
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| dkehn | thats it | 19:09 |
| devananda | dkehn: taht's fine. I'll set it to "needs testing" :) | 19:09 |
| devananda | err, "needs code review", i mean | 19:09 |
| dkehn | k | 19:09 |
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| devananda | PXE driver BP... | 19:10 |
| devananda | has no one assigned. | 19:10 |
| devananda | that one landed long ago, but we're all jsut now testing it | 19:10 |
| dkehn | devananda: I'll get it out of WIP then | 19:10 |
| devananda | anyone want to take point on that BP? GheRivero ? NobodyCam ? | 19:10 |
| GheRivero | I can take it | 19:11 |
| devananda | GheRivero: thanks | 19:11 |
| NobodyCam | :0 faster then I | 19:11 |
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| devananda | romcheg: around? | 19:12 |
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| romcheg | devananda: yup | 19:12 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: we'll need to get the "get service url" working for that | 19:12 |
| devananda | sunjing: around? | 19:12 |
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| devananda | romcheg: I think the "intelligent routing for RPC" BP is superceded by my consistent hash BP. what do you think? | 19:13 |
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| haomeng2 | jing is not around i think | 19:13 |
| romcheg | I think we discussed that already :) | 19:13 |
| romcheg | I agree with you | 19:13 |
| devananda | romcheg: k :) I'll close that BP | 19:13 |
| GheRivero | I will have something about "get service url" soon | 19:13 |
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| NobodyCam | GheRivero: W00t | 19:13 |
| romcheg | devananda: thanks | 19:13 |
| lucasagomes | :) | 19:13 |
| lucasagomes | I'm also fixing the ironic-rootwrap | 19:13 |
| lucasagomes | couple of problems with it | 19:14 |
| lucasagomes | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1268696 | 19:14 |
| devananda | GheRivero: great! I saw some discussion in channel about it | 19:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1268696 in ironic "On Ubuntu: /usr/local/bin/ironic-rootwrap: Executable not found: /sbin/iscsiadm" [Undecided,In progress] | 19:14 |
| lucasagomes | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1268674 | 19:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1268674 in ironic "ironic-rootwrap: No section: 'Filters'" [Undecided,In progress] | 19:14 |
| lucasagomes | that's needed for pxe | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: was that the reviews you just put up? | 19:14 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yes | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | :) will look at after meeting | 19:15 |
| lucasagomes | there's one more needed but on devstack | 19:15 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: ahh. IIRC, that has a different path | 19:15 |
| rloo | lucasagomes: don't forget to specify the milestone on those bugs :-) | 19:15 |
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| lucasagomes | rloo, +1 | 19:15 |
| haomeng2 | :) | 19:15 |
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| linggao | devananda, I can try to answer your questions for sun jing for relate them to her. | 19:16 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yup it does... but as nova also does not use absolute paths on the filters | 19:16 |
| devananda | linggao: hi! | 19:16 |
| lucasagomes | I think we might want to go with the same approach | 19:16 |
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| linggao | hi | 19:16 |
| devananda | linggao: how's progress on the "use ipmitool for serial console" work? I've seen a patch up but haven't had time to test it yet | 19:17 |
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| devananda | linggao: is that patch a complete implementation, or is there mroe to do? | 19:17 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: could you also set importance for your bugs? | 19:18 |
| linggao | devananda, from the conversation I had with her last wek, she has put the implementation for serial console using ipmitool in the patch. | 19:18 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, +1 yes | 19:18 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: i trust that you can guage the importance of a bug -- and really, most of us should be able to triage bugs now :) | 19:19 |
| devananda | linggao: great! | 19:19 |
| devananda | linggao: i'll update teh BP | 19:19 |
| linggao | devanandan, she was going to change it to use the Console interface to start or stop the condole instead of puting them in the power on/off funcitions like nova did | 19:19 |
| linggao | but I am not sure they check that code in or not. | 19:19 |
| devananda | linggao: never mind -- nothing to update. it already has the right status :) | 19:19 |
| devananda | linggao: ah. it should indeed use the console interface now | 19:20 |
| devananda | sounds like it may not be complete by I2 then | 19:20 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, right :) yea I need to take a better look at our bug list. I fixed the ones assigned to me awhile ago. | 19:20 |
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| linggao | the to-do for that BP is to implement the console interface usng the ipminative, that will be done after icehouse | 19:20 |
| devananda | linggao: that's fine | 19:21 |
| devananda | ok, i'd like to move on, so we dont spend the whole meeting on BP's | 19:21 |
| devananda | thanks everyone :) | 19:21 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: do the seamicro bp need to me tagged as i2 | 19:21 |
| NobodyCam | ok | 19:21 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: let's talk about the seamicro BPs in a bit | 19:22 |
| NobodyCam | ack | 19:22 |
| devananda | they were jsut proposed a few days ago | 19:22 |
| devananda | #topic Tempest API tests | 19:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest API tests (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:22 | |
| haomeng2 | devananda, i will try to triage some bugs | 19:22 |
| devananda | I want to thank romcheg for all the work he did on this | 19:22 |
| romcheg | I have exciting news about the test | 19:22 |
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| romcheg | But everyone already knows them :) | 19:23 |
| max_lobur | :) | 19:23 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:23 |
| devananda | romcheg: hehe, but please, say it anyway :) | 19:23 |
| romcheg | ok | 19:23 |
| haomeng2 | great ;) | 19:23 |
| romcheg | So everything got merged | 19:23 |
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| NobodyCam | awesome romcheg | 19:24 |
| lucasagomes | good stuff :) | 19:24 |
| romcheg | Tempest tests can be manually triggered for every ironic patch by leaving "check experimental" on review | 19:24 |
| max_lobur | congrats! | 19:24 |
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| devananda | also, we will soon have tempest API checks in our gate, once this lands | 19:24 |
| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65845/ | 19:24 |
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| devananda | so every patch to Ironic will spin up devstack. expect jenkins to become slower ... | 19:24 |
| NobodyCam | ieek | 19:24 |
| devananda | the same tests will also run for every tempest and devstack patch -- but in non-voting mode | 19:24 |
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| haomeng2 | inclouding pxe_ssh driver? | 19:25 |
| devananda | haomeng2: right now, this is only for exercising our API | 19:25 |
| haomeng2 | ok got | 19:26 |
| devananda | it's an integration test -- make sure all the components of Ironic integrate with each other | 19:26 |
| romcheg | haomeng2: agordeev1 is working on that | 19:26 |
| haomeng2 | ok | 19:26 |
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| devananda | functional test (can it actually DO a deployment) is being worked on still | 19:26 |
| romcheg | I'm trying to help them since I got more familiar with infra | 19:26 |
| devananda | i'm hoping we haev that by I3 milestone | 19:26 |
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| devananda | #topic Nova driver | 19:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nova driver (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:27 | |
| devananda | NobodyCam: that's you - any announcements? besides how awesome it is? :) | 19:27 |
| NobodyCam | :) I need to actually start writing tests | 19:27 |
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| NobodyCam | lol | 19:27 |
| devananda | heh | 19:27 |
| NobodyCam | its getting there | 19:27 |
| devananda | i had a brief chat with a few nova folks at LCA -- as I thought, we'll need to split the patch up for it to land | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | still 100% but I think we worked out a way to map the drivers requirments so nova will know what each driver needs | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | oh ya | 19:28 |
| devananda | nice | 19:28 |
| lucasagomes | nice | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | the full review is up at | 19:28 |
| lucasagomes | would be that something that we might want our drivers to say as well? | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | looks for link | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51328/ | 19:29 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: you mean in our /drivers/ api? | 19:29 |
| lucasagomes | for example, by GET /drivers, would also return a list of the mandatory parameters | 19:29 |
| lucasagomes | with an description etc | 19:29 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yes | 19:29 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: i think we talked about that early on. Yea, eventually I think they should | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: yes I would like to make that dynamic | 19:30 |
| lucasagomes | ah right, yea that would be very useful | 19:30 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: so that other clients can retrieve said list, then populate driver_info, then call validate to see if they got everything | 19:30 |
| NobodyCam | but the good news is we are acryally calling deploy from the driver | 19:30 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: but nova will still need some static mapping there, I expect | 19:30 |
| NobodyCam | I am would like feedback on the mapping and anyother bit of the driver | 19:31 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: one thing on building that review into a dib image that I learned last week | 19:32 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: you can tell dib to pull in a patch/rev via env vars now | 19:32 |
| devananda | just set this | 19:32 |
| devananda | export DIB_REPOLOCATION_nova=https://review.openstack.org/openstack/nova | 19:32 |
| devananda | export DIB_REPOREF_nova=refs/changes/28/51328/8 | 19:32 |
| lucasagomes | right, maybe having a bug ticket to implement that ( wishlist ) would be great, I can file that later | 19:32 |
| NobodyCam | awesome | 19:32 |
| devananda | instead of hard-coding it in your element install script | 19:32 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: ++ | 19:32 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: I can look at refactoring the element i have up in my repo | 19:33 |
| NobodyCam | or I saw you may have started a new one | 19:34 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: just dropped | 19:35 |
| NobodyCam | are there anyquestions on the nova driver | 19:36 |
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| devananda | #topic functional testing | 19:36 |
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| devananda | just a quick note here - i'll be talking with agordeev1 later today about this | 19:36 |
| devananda | and romcheg hopefully, too | 19:37 |
| romcheg | +1 | 19:37 |
| devananda | functional testing is a requirement for graduation, and we should have it in our gate ASAP. certainly no later than I3 | 19:37 |
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| devananda | #topic tripleo integration | 19:37 |
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| devananda | again, just a quick note - | 19:38 |
| devananda | i think we can simplify the current walkthrough in our wiki | 19:38 |
| devananda | and merge most of that up into tripleo at this point | 19:38 |
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| devananda | in fact, we will need to at some point have tripleo support both baremetal and ironic in parallel | 19:39 |
| devananda | with an ENV var to toggle it | 19:39 |
| devananda | so that folks using tripleo can migrate | 19:39 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: you've been maintaining that mostly, so once i'm back in the states, let's hash those changes out | 19:39 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: I have had a hard time in the past getting env var thru the oOo revirew processs | 19:39 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: ack | 19:40 |
| devananda | with 20 minutes left... | 19:40 |
| devananda | #topic SeaMicro proposals | 19:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SeaMicro proposals (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:40 | |
| k4n0 | Hi folks | 19:40 |
| k4n0 | Rohan here | 19:40 |
| devananda | hi! | 19:40 |
| romcheg | Hi! | 19:40 |
| NobodyCam | hi rohan | 19:40 |
| k4n0 | Seamicro is proposing ironic drivers for its products | 19:41 |
| NobodyCam | k4n0: do you think you can have all that by i2 | 19:41 |
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| k4n0 | yes | 19:41 |
| k4n0 | working very hard on that | 19:41 |
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| devananda | k4n0: i just saw your reply on the BP regarding the seamicro client lib | 19:42 |
| k4n0 | devananda: yes, does that sound ok? | 19:42 |
| devananda | k4n0: good stuff! I'm thrilled to see support for seamicro getting added | 19:43 |
| devananda | k4n0: yep, sounds fine | 19:43 |
| lucasagomes | # link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/seamicro-power-driver | 19:43 |
| k4n0 | we will need talk about functional testing of drivers though | 19:43 |
| devananda | right | 19:43 |
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| NobodyCam | also: | 19:43 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/seamicro-vendor-passthru-interface-implementation | 19:43 |
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| devananda | k4n0: we (will) have the same requirement that Nova does -- all third-party drivers need functional testing on real hardware | 19:44 |
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| romcheg | Regarding to testing: I think we will have to chose the neutron's ways | 19:44 |
| devananda | k4n0: tripleo has been working on some specifications for how folks contribute it | 19:44 |
| * devananda looks for the link | 19:44 | |
| devananda | romcheg: what do you mean exactly? | 19:44 |
| romcheg | When vendors set up their own environment which is open for OpenStack CI | 19:45 |
| devananda | neutron has had a lot of difficulties in the past, but working on improving it... | 19:45 |
| romcheg | Then we'll be able to run TripleO's periodic tasks againts that hardware | 19:45 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: are the requirments for the hardware venders need to put up? | 19:46 |
| k4n0 | that would be helpful | 19:46 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: i haven't written them up specifically yet (on my list...) | 19:47 |
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| devananda | but lifeless has written it up for tripleo, and I'd like to point fokls to that for the time being | 19:48 |
| k4n0 | will do | 19:48 |
| devananda | k4n0: broadly speaking, there are two kidns of testing which jenkins can support | 19:48 |
| devananda | voting and non-voting | 19:48 |
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| devananda | infra has very strict requirements on things which can vote in the gate, since that will affect ALL projects | 19:49 |
| k4n0 | right, so where do the third party functional tests go? | 19:49 |
| devananda | we're still discussing exactly where in the matrix of possible tests vendor drivers need to fit for ironic | 19:49 |
| devananda | right :) | 19:49 |
| k4n0 | :) | 19:49 |
| k4n0 | ok | 19:49 |
| devananda | my current view is that it's the intersection of | 19:50 |
| devananda | *somewhere near the | 19:50 |
| k4n0 | something like turbo-hipster? | 19:50 |
| devananda | check + gate for all patches in Ironic | 19:50 |
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| romcheg | devananda: wouldn't that be too expensive for vendors? | 19:51 |
| devananda | romcheg: how else can we know taht some patch doesn't break support for that vendor? | 19:51 |
| devananda | romcheg: how else do we prevent regressions and ensure support for the things which are landed in trunk? | 19:51 |
| romcheg | devananda: there's no other way I think :( | 19:52 |
| devananda | k4n0: what do you think? | 19:52 |
| devananda | k4n0: will you guys be able to test, at a minimum, all patches to ironic (both check and gate pipelines) | 19:52 |
| k4n0 | I think so, will need to check on this | 19:53 |
| devananda | ignoring for the moment that we're still working out bugs in our deploy process, and dont have functional tests written into devstack :) | 19:53 |
| k4n0 | Does neutron do the same? | 19:53 |
| devananda | k4n0: neutron is moving towards this model | 19:53 |
| devananda | k4n0: and nova is kicking out all the drivers which aren't doing this | 19:53 |
| k4n0 | :) ok, i can talk to my folks, get back to you on this | 19:54 |
| devananda | thanks :) | 19:54 |
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| devananda | k4n0: any other questions for us? | 19:54 |
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| k4n0 | we can get the blueprints in after i2 right? | 19:55 |
| k4n0 | i mean, do we have to wait till i3? | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | i was thinking maybe we should tag as i3 for now | 19:55 |
| devananda | k4n0: targeting a BP is just a way of communicating expectations | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | they can ofc land sooner | 19:56 |
| k4n0 | ok, we will try to finish sooner | 19:56 |
| k4n0 | i2 is good for now | 19:56 |
| devananda | k4n0: i'm fine with it targetted to i3 | 19:57 |
| k4n0 | ok | 19:57 |
| devananda | k4n0: oh! also, here's the link for tripleo's requirements for additional regions -- not goign to be exactly the same as ours, but may be worth reading, particularly if you gys are also looking at tripleo support | 19:57 |
| devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO/TripleOCloud/Regions | 19:57 |
| k4n0 | devananda: thanks ! | 19:58 |
| k4n0 | I am done with my questions | 19:58 |
| NobodyCam | and we have two minutes | 19:58 |
| devananda | :) | 19:58 |
| k4n0 | thank you everyone, I will try to hang around every meeting :) | 19:58 |
| devananda | #topic open discussion | 19:58 |
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| NobodyCam | k4n0: great also hang out in channel too | 19:58 |
| devananda | k4n0: please join us in #openstack-ironic too | 19:58 |
| max_lobur | as for race condition problem | 19:59 |
| k4n0 | ohh cool, didnt know that channel | 19:59 |
| max_lobur | there are 3 links in agenda | 19:59 |
| devananda | k4n0: and thanks again -- I'm really thrilled to see SeaMicro contributing :) | 19:59 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1259910 | 19:59 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1259910 in ironic "race condition when changing node states" [Medium,In progress] | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: +1 | 19:59 |
| lucasagomes | I don't think we have time to talk about the race condition (1min left) | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | max_lobur: you put up a | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | poc today? | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | on that | 19:59 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, could you take a look at that bug ticket when u get some free time? | 19:59 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: will do | 19:59 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, he did already | 20:00 |
| lucasagomes | there's one patch fixing it using the thread approach | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | hae the link for the log | 20:00 |
| max_lobur | :) | 20:00 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: let's discuss the bug back in channel though | 20:00 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66368 | 20:00 |
| max_lobur | + | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | great meeting every one | 20:00 |
| devananda | thanks everyone! | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | ty lucasagomes | 20:00 |
| k4n0 | thanks | 20:00 |
| haomeng2 | :) | 20:00 |
| max_lobur | thanks! | 20:00 |
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| lucasagomes | thanks | 20:00 |
| haomeng2 | tks | 20:00 |
| romcheg | thanks | 20:00 |
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| devananda | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 13 20:01:00 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-01-13-19.00.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-01-13-19.00.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-01-13-19.00.log.html | 20:01 |
| ifarkas | thanks! | 20:01 |
| agordeev1 | thanks | 20:01 |
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| markmcclain | hi | 20:59 |
| mestery | o/ | 20:59 |
| beagles | \o | 20:59 |
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| rkukura | hi | 20:59 |
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| dkehn | hi | 21:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 21:00 |
| jlibosva | hi | 21:00 |
| Swami | hi all | 21:00 |
| Sukhdev | Hi | 21:00 |
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| markmcclain | armax, arosen, emagana: ping | 21:01 |
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| nati_uen_ | hi! | 21:01 |
| arosen | Hiya! | 21:01 |
| markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 13 21:01:46 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Networking)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:01 |
| markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Networking)" | 21:02 | |
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| armax | here | 21:02 |
| emagana | Hello All!! I'm back! | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | The Tempest/Neutron code sprint starts this week | 21:02 |
| sc68cal | hello | 21:02 |
| * mestery waves at emagana. | 21:02 | |
| markmcclain | we'll talk about it later in the agenda | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | emagana: wb | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #info Icehouse-2 deadline is Jan 23rd | 21:03 |
| dkehn | markmcclain: are you in wonderful Montreal | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | #info code should be proposed by Jan 21st for I-2 | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | dkehn: no I'm in a much warmer location: Atlanta | 21:03 |
| dkehn | k, I was going to ask hows the weather | 21:04 |
| markmcclain | additionally the 3rd party testing deadline is next week too | 21:04 |
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| markmcclain | we have many systems reporting, but there are few that aren't or are returning incorrect results | 21:04 |
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| markmcclain | I'll be reaching out to the contacts this week to sync up for those without testing enabled and voting | 21:05 |
| Sukhdev | markmcclain: what is the expectation in terms of the tests to run and the details of logs to report back? | 21:05 |
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| markmcclain | Sukhdev: the expectation is that a full tempest test be run and the logs be publicly available | 21:06 |
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| sc68cal | markmcclain: I see some that are voting but do not post logs, like Midokura CI Bot | 21:06 |
| markmcclain | otherwise in the case of a failure proposers will not be able to triage the failures | 21:06 |
| armax | markmcclain: when you say full tempest | 21:06 |
| armax | are you saying smoke+gate | 21:06 |
| armax | as the other jenkins neutron runs? | 21:06 |
| markmcclain | sc68cal: right I'll be reaching out to those folks | 21:06 |
| markmcclain | armax: yes | 21:07 |
| armax | that's what we've been doing with vmware mine sweepr | 21:07 |
| armax | gotcha | 21:07 |
| armax | thanks | 21:07 |
| sc68cal | Public logs should be a preqreq for voting | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | if that causes for folks please PM or email me | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | sc68cal: they are | 21:07 |
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| sc68cal | looks like people aren't respecting that | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | sc68cal: infra made changes recently to not allow systems to vote until the reliability has been proven | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | that includes posting logs | 21:08 |
| sc68cal | ok - I'll shut up now :) | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | a few of the early systems may have slipped through | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | lastly… I've got a new email address | 21:09 |
| dkehn | here it comes | 21:09 |
| mestery | :) | 21:09 |
| emagana | markmcclain: congs on the move! | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | mmcclain at yahoo-inc.com | 21:10 |
| dkehn | cue crickets | 21:10 |
| markmcclain | The move allows me to continue focusing on upstream | 21:10 |
| arosen | haha | 21:10 |
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| markmcclain | emagana: thanks | 21:11 |
| arosen | ^cue cricks* Congrats | 21:11 |
| dkehn | awesome | 21:11 |
| marun | congrats! | 21:11 |
| enikanorov_ | cool | 21:11 |
| beagles | nice | 21:11 |
| Sukhdev | contrats!!! | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | Thanks all! | 21:11 |
| dkehn | arosen: when its quiet like that all you can hear in the crickets | 21:11 |
| dkehn | s/in/is/ | 21:12 |
| gongysh | congrats. | 21:12 |
| nati_uen_ | congrats! | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | There's lots to cover this week on the agenda, so let's dive in | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | #topic Bugs | 21:12 |
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| markmcclain | Last week many of you probably felt the pain of extremely long merge queue | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | it was really a combination of critical bugs piling up causing lots of gate resets | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=Critical&field.status=New&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | we're got 4 critical bugs | 21:15 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando is stuck on a plane | 21:15 |
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| markmcclain | but has tracked down a solution for 1253896 | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1253896 | 21:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1253896 in neutron "Attempts to verify guests are running via SSH fails. SSH connection to guest does not work." [Critical,In progress] | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | he expects to post a revised patch soon | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | there are also patches up for review for parallel testing tempest | 21:16 |
| nati_uen_ | cool | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | those are some good patches to get more core review cycles especially heading into Montreal this week | 21:17 |
| enikanorov_ | how do you check if the bug is hit recently? | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/neutron-tempest-parallel,n,z | 21:17 |
| enikanorov_ | is there tools other than kibana? | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov_: logstash+kibana is the best way | 21:18 |
| enikanorov_ | i see | 21:18 |
| enikanorov_ | i dont see hits for bug 1210483 for the last 7 days | 21:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1210483 in neutron "ServerAddressesTestXML.test_list_server_addresses FAIL" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1210483 | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov_: ok.. make a note of that in bug | 21:18 |
| enikanorov_ | ok | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | and we can re-triage it | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | any other critical bugs we need to discuss? | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | #topic Docs | 21:19 |
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| markmcclain | emagana: hi | 21:19 |
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| emagana | Hello there! Still catching up | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | ok that's fine.. when you're up to speed feel free to up the community via the ML | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | #topic Nova Parity | 21:20 |
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| markmcclain | beagles: hi | 21:20 |
| emagana | It seems that HA documentation is quite outdated, there is a proposal for deprecating some section, EmilienM already sent me some proposals | 21:20 |
| beagles | hi! | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | emagana: great | 21:20 |
| emagana | markmcclain: sure, I will do | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | beagles: big report | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | any highlights you'd like to cover? | 21:21 |
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| beagles | yes, a lot has been going on... some of which I've uncovered just today. Thanks to everyone! | 21:21 |
| beagles | I'd like to highlight the NotImplemented exceptions in the neutronv2/api.py | 21:21 |
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| beagles | Some of these are probably low hanging fruit and some may require input from more savvy indiividuals | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | ok.. so we'll need to create bugs and triage? | 21:23 |
| beagles | two things about it then are I was thinking it would be good to represent these through launchpad bugs and ... | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | +1 to creating LP bugs | 21:23 |
| beagles | yes.. maybe if we could sketch out a 1/2 hour or so at some point and 3 or 4 of us just collaboratively drive through the triage | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | I'll be stuck on a plane for a few hours tomorrow | 21:23 |
| beagles | the list isn't *all* that long and the nature of the APIs are typically pretty simple | 21:23 |
| beagles | yup... | 21:24 |
| beagles | I'll create the bz's this week.. .maybe if we can do it early next if they haven't been gotten to already ;) | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | I'll ping you offline about collaborating on triaging the bugs | 21:24 |
| beagles | cool | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | awesome | 21:24 |
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| beagles | I think that's all I have for highlighting at the moment | 21:25 |
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| markmcclain | ok.. thanks for the detailed update in the agenda | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | Any nova parity questions? | 21:25 |
| beagles | crickets! | 21:26 |
| markmcclain | #topic Tempest | 21:26 |
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| markmcclain | mlavalle: hi | 21:26 |
| mlavalle | hi | 21:26 |
| mlavalle | I also updated the agenda | 21:26 |
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| markmcclain | great thank you | 21:27 |
| mlavalle | folks are contributing code | 21:27 |
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| markmcclain | yeah it is nice to see so many reviews | 21:27 |
| mlavalle | I had an exchange with Sumit regarding enabling fwaas in the gate | 21:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: my suggestion we hold off until after I2 | 21:28 |
| mlavalle | so we can running the tests under development for it | 21:28 |
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| markmcclain | I agree holding off until after I-2 makes sense | 21:28 |
| mlavalle | Yes, the greement is to hold off until after icehouse 2 | 21:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | don't want to disrupt curent efforts | 21:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | in stabilizing L3 agent | 21:28 |
| mlavalle | fully in agreement with this | 21:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: great, thanks for brining it up | 21:29 |
| mlavalle | the other thing that I want o highlight is that we already have a scenario test for vpnaas | 21:29 |
| mlavalle | I would like nati_ueno to take a first look at it | 21:29 |
| mlavalle | it's wip | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | oh cool | 21:30 |
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| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65515 | 21:30 |
| nati_uen_ | mlavalle: COOL! | 21:30 |
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| nati_uen_ | mlavalle: let's me take a look | 21:30 |
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| mlavalle | I'm not the author. it was written by Joris Roovers | 21:31 |
| mlavalle | and I'll see some of you in balmy Montreal | 21:31 |
| markmcclain | yeah much better weather this week | 21:31 |
| gongysh | since vpnaas fwaas is in experiment phase, should we put it into gate test? | 21:31 |
| markmcclain | vpnaas yes.. fwaas let's wait until after I-2 | 21:32 |
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| gongysh | ok | 21:32 |
| mlavalle | that's all I have | 21:32 |
| markmcclain | gongysh: vpn is already enabled in the gate testing | 21:32 |
| salv-mobile | Aloha. Sorry for being so late. | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | mlavalle: thanks for the update | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | salv-mobile: no worries.. just updated everyone based on your email from earlier | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | #topic API | 21:33 |
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| gongysh | I just think we should define what is experiment phase. | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | salv-mobile: just in time.. any API updates for this week? | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | gongysh: fwaas API is the only service we released marked as experimental in the Havana release notes | 21:34 |
| gongysh | thanks. got it. | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | not sure if salv-mobile dropped offline, but I don't think he had an API updates for this week | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | #topic IPv6 | 21:35 |
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| markmcclain | sc68cal: hi | 21:35 |
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| sc68cal | hello | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | looks like we're no longer blocked on tail-f correct? | 21:36 |
| sc68cal | Correct :) | 21:36 |
| sc68cal | However, we're seeking input on how to proceed on the subnet mode keyword patch | 21:36 |
| sc68cal | api extension vs. change to core | 21:36 |
| sc68cal | I started a new mailing list e-mail to discuss | 21:36 |
| salv-mobile | No api updates... But I will comment on sc68cal issue | 21:37 |
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| salv-mobile | On the mailing list | 21:37 |
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| markmcclain | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-January/024179.html | 21:38 |
| markmcclain | ok I'd encourage folks to chime in on that thread | 21:38 |
| markmcclain | sc68cal: any other updates? | 21:38 |
| sc68cal | Nope - that's it. Please do contribute to that thread | 21:38 |
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| markmcclain | sc68cal: thanks for the update | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | #topic ML2 | 21:39 |
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| markmcclain | rkukura, mestery: hi | 21:39 |
| mestery | hi! | 21:39 |
| mestery | I think we've made progress on the port binding issues which have plagued some ML2 MechanismDriver creators. | 21:40 |
| mestery | rkukura is working on a patch for that now in fact. | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | great | 21:40 |
| mestery | That was the main topic at our meeting last week in fact. :) | 21:40 |
| mestery | That's the high level update from ML2 unless rkukura has anything else. | 21:40 |
| enikanorov_ | what's with patches that fix migrations for ml2? | 21:40 |
| enikanorov_ | we have a few | 21:41 |
| enikanorov_ | on review, I mean | 21:41 |
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| mestery | enikanorov_: I think I've seen a few of those, have they not gone in yet? I'll make sure to review those today yet. | 21:41 |
| rkukura | enikanorov_: I will look too | 21:41 |
| enikanorov_ | thanks | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov_: the problem with reviews is we're changing released migrations | 21:42 |
| emagana | mestery: I remember this patch had some ML2 implications, are those fine now? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61663 | 21:42 |
| markmcclain | unfortunately sqlalchemy does not support some of the conditional SQL we'll need to make the migrations work in offline mode | 21:42 |
| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: yes, I know. I remember your conversation with Roman | 21:42 |
| mestery | emagana: I'll take a peek at that one in closer detail. | 21:43 |
| emagana | mestery: Thanks! | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | I started working on possible fixes, but the offline fix has been a bigger challenge than I'd like | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | I'll craft a post to the ML this week on various paths forward | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | mestery: thanks for the ML2 update | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | Any other questions? | 21:44 |
| mestery | markmcclain: Sure! | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | #topic VPN | 21:45 |
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| markmcclain | nati_uen_: looks like this has been up for review for some time | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58897/ | 21:45 |
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| nati_uen_ | markmcclain: yes. I'm also working on review comments | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:46 |
| nati_uen_ | markmcclain: I'll push new review today | 21:46 |
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| markmcclain | perfect any other updates from the VPN team? | 21:46 |
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| nati_uen_ | That's it | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | thanks for updating | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | #topic FWaaS | 21:46 |
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| markmcclain | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 21:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 21:47 |
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| markmcclain | we've talked about activating fwaas in the gate post I-2 | 21:47 |
| pcm_ | would be nice to get the service type frameworkfor VPN | 21:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we have a couple of reviews | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | any other items? | 21:47 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | would like to get the service provider reviewed in at the earliest | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | one of the reviews on the agenda looks to be anbandoned | 21:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hmmm...let me check | 21:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but other than that, the discussion for wait until I2 | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | if we rebase and repush that will be reactivate it | 21:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: yeah | 21:48 |
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| markmcclain | ok.. I'll add a reminder to revisit fwaas items after I-2 is branched | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | #topic LBaaS | 21:49 |
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| markmcclain | SumitNaiksatam: thanks for the update | 21:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: sure | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov_: we've been discussing resource declarations in #openstack-neutron | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | any other items to raise? | 21:49 |
| enikanorov_ | we have a few workitems right now | 21:49 |
| enikanorov_ | besides loadbalancer instance those are ssl extension | 21:49 |
| enikanorov_ | and l7 rules | 21:49 |
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| enikanorov_ | and also a patch which allows to use one driver with several provider names | 21:50 |
| enikanorov_ | to be able to specify additional settings for the same actual provider | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | yeah I saw that.. that is kind of venturing into flavor territory | 21:51 |
| enikanorov_ | that patch is in pretty good shape in case it is a desired direction | 21:51 |
| enikanorov_ | right | 21:51 |
| markmcclain | and might be a good general discussion because flavors make more sense long term | 21:51 |
| enikanorov_ | another item, a littlebit unrelated to lbaas is about configuration files | 21:51 |
| enikanorov_ | we've introduced services.conf a while ago | 21:51 |
| markmcclain | right | 21:51 |
| enikanorov_ | to put vendor-specific stuff there (for adv/ services) | 21:51 |
| enikanorov_ | Sean Dague has objection to this practice | 21:52 |
| enikanorov_ | of increasing amount of files passed to a service in cmd line | 21:52 |
| enikanorov_ | I've started a thread on ML on the matter | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov_: agreed the more we pass the more unwieldy it gets | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | thanks for starting a thread | 21:53 |
| enikanorov_ | appreciate if you add your opinion | 21:53 |
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| markmcclain | I've got a got a few thoughts, I'll chime in | 21:53 |
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| markmcclain | Anything else? | 21:53 |
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| enikanorov_ | nope | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov_: thanks for updating | 21:54 |
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| markmcclain | #topic General Discussion | 21:54 |
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| markmcclain | We finished with 6 minutes to spare this week | 21:54 |
| pcm_ | VPNaas: would be nice to get the service type framework code reviews - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41827/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53602/ | 21:54 |
| yamahata | I'm arranging a f2f meeting for advanced service vm framework in Santa Clara Jan 20 | 21:55 |
| nati_uen_ | yeah, hopefully, we could get two core on it | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | pcm_: looks like amotoki and I are the cores on it | 21:55 |
| pcm_ | cool | 21:55 |
| amotoki | pcm_: will look at it | 21:55 |
| pcm_ | thnank! | 21:55 |
| nati_uen_ | markmcclain: amotoki: Thanks | 21:55 |
| yamahata | If you want to attend, please let contact me as I announced on the ML. | 21:55 |
| shivh | markmcclain: forwarded an email to u on your new addr | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | shivh: thanks… I'll look at it after the meeting | 21:56 |
| shivh | thx | 21:56 |
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| markmcclain | yamahata: 1/20 is a holiday for many US based companies | 21:56 |
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| yamahata | markmcclain, yes, but it's fixed due to other tight schedules. I've already got some to attend. | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | Any other items for this week? | 21:58 |
| dkehn | see all in Montreal | 21:58 |
| nati_uen_ | Do you have any wether info in montreal? | 21:58 |
| nati_uen_ | it looks ok (-13 c) as far as I know | 21:58 |
| dkehn | 30 F for the week | 21:59 |
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| markmcclain | nati_uen_: I'm showing around slightly above/below freezing during the days | 21:59 |
| nati_uen_ | dkehn: Thanks | 21:59 |
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| dkehn | .\https://www.google.com/search?q=montreal+weather&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a | 21:59 |
| nati_uen_ | markmcclain: scary | 21:59 |
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| Sukhdev | wow!! 40 is good - not bad.. | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | yeah | 22:00 |
| nati_uen_ | cool | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | Ok we are out of time for this week | 22:00 |
| marun | except…slush and freezing rain | 22:00 |
| mestery | You folks have fun in the northern tundra this week. :) | 22:00 |
| * mestery grumbles about real cold in the meantime. | 22:00 | |
| markmcclain | for those traveling to Montreal safe travels and see you all there | 22:00 |
| dkehn | mestery: this should be like summer for you | 22:01 |
| mestery | :D | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | mestery: I need to pack shorts right? | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
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| salv-mobile | Thanks markmcclain | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 13 22:01:18 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-01-13-21.01.html | 22:01 |
| nati_uen_ | mestery: Montreal is the coldest place I have ever visit! | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-01-13-21.01.txt | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-01-13-21.01.log.html | 22:01 |
| mestery | markmcclain: Ha! And thanks! | 22:01 |
| nati_uen_ | bye! | 22:01 |
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| salv-mobile | Adieuuuuuuu | 22:01 |
| mestery | nati_uen_: Have fun in the cold my friend! :) | 22:01 |
| enikanorov_ | good bye all | 22:02 |
| jlibosva | nye | 22:02 |
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| sarob | hello etc peoples | 23:00 |
| MrJoshua | howdy | 23:00 |
| sarob | the meeting starts now | 23:00 |
| sarob | #startmeeting milk | 23:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 13 23:00:49 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 23:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 23:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'milk' | 23:00 |
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| sarob | meeting agenda is posted on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/milk | 23:01 |
| sarob | roll call, who do we have with us today? | 23:01 |
| MrJoshua | Joshua Kolden | 23:02 |
| keyvan | Keyvan Fatehi, developer @ DigitalFilm Tree | 23:02 |
| GAUBUCHON | Guillaume Aubuchon, CTO @ DigitalFilm Tree | 23:02 |
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| sarob | okay, lets go | 23:03 |
| sarob | #topic finalize weekly meeting time 3pm PST 2200 UTC on #openstack-meeting | 23:03 |
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| sarob | #vote 3pm PST as meeting time | 23:04 |
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| MrJoshua | Hmm, suboptmial for me in the middle of the day, I'd prefer beginning of the day, lunch time, or end of day, but I'll make whatever work. | 23:06 |
| sarob | do we have agreement to keep this as the meeting time going forward? | 23:06 |
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| sarob | im good with 12pm or 3pm | 23:06 |
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| keyvan | it's OK for me but my cohort, Jeanre is in south africa and 3pm is a bit late for him, as it's 1 AM his time | 23:06 |
| sarob | so 12pm pst would be 10pm local? | 23:07 |
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| keyvan | yeah that works for him, he usually signs off at like 1PM | 23:07 |
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| keyvan | 1PM Pacific | 23:08 |
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| sarob | okay so we have 3 votes for 12pm pst mondays | 23:08 |
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| sarob | #action milk-dev meeting time on #openstack-meeting 12pm PST going forward | 23:08 |
| GAUBUCHON | SOunds good to me | 23:09 |
| sarob | #topic create mailing list milk-dev@etcusc.org | 23:09 |
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| sarob | so this is a google group with thread history here https://groups.google.com/a/etcusc.org/forum/#!forum/milk-dev | 23:10 |
| sarob | any problems with how this is working so far? | 23:10 |
| keyvan | i like it, nice job with the Wiki and all this stuff :) | 23:10 |
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| sarob | one happy customer, yeah | 23:11 |
| sarob | how about the rest of yous? | 23:11 |
| GAUBUCHON | I think it will work, I like that it keeps record | 23:12 |
| MrJoshua | Yep, looks good to me. I haven't tried to edit the wiki or anything, but looks like a good way to start at leaste. | 23:12 |
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| sarob | ah, right for editing the wiki, you will need to create a launchpad account | 23:13 |
| sarob | painless, free and easy | 23:13 |
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| MrJoshua | k | 23:13 |
| sarob | anyone can edit the wiki and history is maintained for booboos | 23:13 |
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| sarob | #topic share existing metadata API with group as starting point | 23:14 |
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| sarob | who should I work with to get this up on the milk wiki? | 23:15 |
| MrJoshua | Where are we thinking to host the code? Github? | 23:15 |
| GAUBUCHON | is there any interest iun creating a google+ circle for this group and then do a weekly hangout? | 23:15 |
| GAUBUCHON | Github | 23:16 |
| sarob | or rather reference the existing API so we can work on the milk api | 23:16 |
| sarob | github roger that | 23:16 |
| GAUBUCHON | WHat existing API are you talking about? | 23:16 |
| sarob | you offered to start with the metadata api as example | 23:17 |
| GAUBUCHON | Are you talking about doeye, the metadata APi we were working on? | 23:17 |
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| keyvan | GAUBUCHON: i see some stubbing of that here, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Milk i imagine this is where we'll fill out more detail pre-writing code? | 23:17 |
| sarob | yup | 23:17 |
| sarob | is the source on github, me cant find it | 23:17 |
| GAUBUCHON | Yes we can gladly contribute that as well as code for additional functionality. | 23:18 |
| keyvan | 1 sec ill open it | 23:18 |
| sarob | oh, coolo | 23:18 |
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| sarob | we should limit the number of functions supported in the prototype | 23:18 |
| sarob | so we wont want to forklift | 23:19 |
| keyvan | https://github.com/DFTi/doe-eye | 23:19 |
| sarob | but im open to what we can get done in the time we have | 23:19 |
| GAUBUCHON | We are opening that right now with MIT licensing | 23:19 |
| sarob | got it | 23:19 |
| keyvan | i need to add a license and ... it is written in rails >.< | 23:19 |
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| sarob | im open to what the group wants to build the prototype on | 23:20 |
| MrJoshua | Ah, rails. We talked about python, but I'm ok with rails too. However most client side tools in post are python. | 23:21 |
| keyvan | And it is lacking docs, but Jeanre and I should probably try to extract the good out into the Wiki, separated from the rails app | 23:21 |
| sarob | yeah, most are python | 23:21 |
| sarob | okay | 23:21 |
| keyvan | yeah lets pull the knowledge / value out of it | 23:21 |
| keyvan | and then make a decision later | 23:21 |
| sarob | we can focus on the api functions that we think will be good to start from | 23:22 |
| sarob | structure in milk api | 23:22 |
| keyvan | id like to do it in Python, considering i dont use it much | 23:22 |
| MrJoshua | We can prototype and document using something like http://apiary.io/. And simply create a blueprint doc. | 23:22 |
| sarob | we can still use wsme, pecan a python api jump | 23:22 |
| sarob | start | 23:22 |
| MrJoshua | Then server tech isn't important. | 23:23 |
| sarob | right i like that | 23:23 |
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| sarob | so we have three basic goals for the prototype | 23:23 |
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| sarob | #info Ingesting data from the many changes throughout the media pipeline | 23:24 |
| sarob | #info Metadata from the data stored and the pipeline activities | 23:24 |
| sarob | #info URL/URN marker identification for assets | 23:24 |
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| sarob | does doe-eye structure lend to the structure we came up with in dec | 23:26 |
| keyvan | i found some docs | 23:26 |
| keyvan | https://github.com/DFTi/doe-eye/blob/master/documentation/api.md | 23:26 |
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| MrJoshua | Do you guys have good coverage with rspec? We can also use that for docs. | 23:26 |
| keyvan | not sure what you guys came up with in December, my reference point is Guillaume's original document that Jeanre and I used for doe-eye | 23:27 |
| keyvan | although Jeanre worked on doe-eye while i did node.js stuff on our other projects | 23:27 |
| sarob | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Milk#To_build | 23:27 |
| sarob | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/thumb/7/74/Etcc-design-meeting-17dec2013.jpg/120px-Etcc-design-meeting-17dec2013.jpg | 23:28 |
| keyvan | MrJoshua: https://github.com/DFTi/doe-eye/tree/master/spec/requests/api looks pretty specced out at the API level | 23:28 |
| GAUBUCHON | It has some of the fundamentals | 23:28 |
| sarob | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/7/74/Etcc-design-meeting-17dec2013.jpg | 23:28 |
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| sarob | reviewing | 23:29 |
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| sarob | okay we can start here | 23:30 |
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| MrJoshua | Yeah, this looks in some ways similar to what we have for C4. We abstract things like 'projects' to 'groups' and make lots of different things (including projects) out of groups, and we differentiate 'assets' from other types of data / documents. | 23:32 |
| sarob | we need to define some actions for the IO and metadata IO APIs | 23:32 |
| sarob | DFT guys take metadata as homework | 23:33 |
| sarob | and joshua? | 23:33 |
| sarob | up to you guys | 23:33 |
| keyvan | what do you mean take metadata as homework | 23:34 |
| sarob | we can hold an extended hangout to work out the actions | 23:34 |
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| sarob | what actions will the metadata api be capable of | 23:34 |
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| sarob | when the metadata client queries | 23:35 |
| keyvan | from what i understood from the original docs, vendors are just POSTing data to the API, letting the app know what doc type it is, and then post-processing occurs thereafter to make the potentially unstructured data structured | 23:37 |
| keyvan | i know there's a comprehensive listing of the vision behind doe-eye , but i am still trying to figure out if that's what we're seeking to build here, or if milk is a superset or a subset or what | 23:37 |
| sarob | as prototype it should be simple, collaboration project | 23:39 |
| sarob | not trying to improve on doe-eye or other projects | 23:39 |
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| sarob | rather build a simple prototype with the three goals in mind | 23:39 |
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| GAUBUCHON | I know that we can contribute some of what we have already done. We can contribute for the NAB prototype without rewriting code that has already been written. | 23:41 |
| sarob | if we can get the prototype working, then in may 2014 we start breaking off into groups like metadata, transport, security, archive | 23:41 |
| sarob | and continue the development work | 23:41 |
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| sarob | guabuchon sounds good | 23:41 |
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| keyvan | that makes sense sarob, i like the idea of the 3 goals | 23:42 |
| sarob | keyvan: excellent | 23:42 |
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| keyvan | i wrote them in a piratepad for my own benefit | 23:42 |
| keyvan | http://piratepad.net/z9DdDDotma | 23:42 |
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| keyvan | as i know these 3 are like bullet points with many subpoints and discussions that can happen beneath them | 23:43 |
| sarob | sure | 23:43 |
| keyvan | i know we wont get to them now, but i like the idea of these as the starting point | 23:43 |
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| keyvan | now the 1st goal, ingesting data etc , is definitely what we were trying to do... any vendor could send us any data | 23:43 |
| sarob | yup | 23:43 |
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| keyvan | then metadata and pipeline, to me, sounds like the next step we were to undertake which was to have workers try ot decipher/organize/structure the data | 23:44 |
| GAUBUCHON | So I guess we need to know what the devision of labor is going to be and how we want to proceed | 23:44 |
| sarob | so we prototype a couple of simple ones | 23:44 |
| keyvan | and the URL/URN sounds like the basic request of giving everything a UUID | 23:44 |
| MrJoshua | It seems to be where talking mostly about a database gateway, with some interface standardization. Perhaps tied in with karma so that it can interface with any vender database? | 23:44 |
| sarob | keyvan: yup you got it | 23:44 |
| MrJoshua | #link https://github.com/InformationIntegrationGroup/Web-Karma | 23:44 |
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| keyvan | MrJoshua: ya karma is cool, were you at the ETC meeting when they demo'd it ? | 23:45 |
| GAUBUCHON | So if we break that down we already have basic ingest, we already have code that assigns a UUID, let's put that all together to prototype quickly | 23:45 |
| sarob | nope but i have heard some | 23:45 |
| MrJoshua | yes | 23:45 |
| keyvan | MrJoshua: i was the loudmouth at the back being overly appreciative of it :P | 23:45 |
| MrJoshua | haha, it is cool and seems like what we need. | 23:46 |
| sarob | so you guys want to take a stab at the milk wiki | 23:46 |
| GAUBUCHON | yes | 23:46 |
| sarob | edit freely brother | 23:46 |
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| GAUBUCHON | I have to jet to antoher call, but we will take a hack through the wiki this week. | 23:46 |
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| MrJoshua | here's my proposal for uuid: `openssl dgst -sha256 ingestfile` ;) | 23:46 |
| sarob | roger | 23:46 |
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| sarob | #topic two additional core reviewers | 23:47 |
| keyvan | lol yeah for these insanely large files | 23:47 |
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| sarob | sarob (me) as core reviewer, who else wants the responsibility? | 23:48 |
| sarob | to share | 23:48 |
| keyvan | i volunteer Gullaume | 23:48 |
| keyvan | he accepts | 23:48 |
| sarob | he left early so its his | 23:48 |
| MrJoshua | I'm happy to help, as I we talked about on the phone. | 23:48 |
| sarob | righto | 23:48 |
| keyvan | when do you think we get to the writing code part ? im a bit excited to take a break from ruby and node.js and learn pro python with unit tests, etc | 23:49 |
| sarob | #action gaubuchon mrjoshua are nominated to core reviewers | 23:49 |
| sarob | fireworks and popcorn fiies | 23:50 |
| MrJoshua | keyvan: haha. You can just start writing anything you like. | 23:50 |
| keyvan | well, i want to know how to write in the style of openstack developers | 23:50 |
| sarob | wellllll, wsme and pecan need to be integrated into milk | 23:50 |
| MrJoshua | One thing, however, is I strongly encourage us to develop in a TDD style. | 23:50 |
| keyvan | i feel like a bit of an outsider since i dont prefer python | 23:50 |
| keyvan | and i dont know the tools around doing it properly with tests | 23:51 |
| keyvan | yeah MrJoshua definitely | 23:51 |
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| sarob | #link https://github.com/stackforge/wsme | 23:51 |
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| sarob | #link https://github.com/stackforge/pecan | 23:52 |
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| keyvan | sarob these hash commands are going into some doc that we'll get at the end of the meeting? | 23:52 |
| sarob | yup | 23:52 |
| sarob | meetbot tracks them | 23:52 |
| sarob | cooolo | 23:52 |
| keyvan | and thanks i didnt know about wsme, i would have gone and used CherryPy which is the last tool i used; no tests on that particular app either :P ended up porting it to ruby/sinatra | 23:52 |
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| sarob | keyvan: you up for checking these out? | 23:53 |
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| keyvan | yea definitly | 23:53 |
| sarob | they are potential web services creation standards for openstack | 23:53 |
| sarob | the ceilometer project worked on them | 23:53 |
| sarob | you could whack the code and post a patch with dummy para | 23:54 |
| sarob | would get you used to the gerrit review process | 23:54 |
| sarob | #link http://docs.openstack.org/training-guides/content/operator-getting-started-lab.html | 23:55 |
| sarob | i wrote this up for the openstack contribution process | 23:55 |
| keyvan | ah ok perfect. yeah that owuld be cool to make use of the gerrit thing | 23:55 |
| sarob | #topic timeline | 23:55 |
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| keyvan | do we have a CI infrastructure? | 23:56 |
| sarob | yes sir, we do | 23:56 |
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| sarob | we are using the stackforge subset of openstack ci | 23:56 |
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| sarob | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/InfraTeam | 23:57 |
| keyvan | hm so its something im unfamiliar with -- well if i get a project up and going i'll ping the group on Google Groups | 23:57 |
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| keyvan | ah, wicked | 23:58 |
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| sarob | we already have everything setup | 23:58 |
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| sarob | milk repo is under the stackforge parent on githb | 23:58 |
| sarob | github | 23:58 |
| keyvan | oh yeah i just found it | 23:59 |
| MrJoshua | I need to get up to speed on it too. | 23:59 |
| keyvan | so i guess it just needs some general direction, and then some code ... | 23:59 |
| sarob | march 2014 is our target r2 release | 23:59 |
| keyvan | MrJoshua: empty repo basically https://github.com/stackforge/milk | 23:59 |
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