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rakhmerov#startmeeting Mistral16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan 13 16:00:45 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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rakhmerovhi everyone16:00
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rakhmerovlet's start our meeting16:01
rakhmerovas usually here's the agenda:
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tnurlygayanovHi there)16:02
rakhmerovwe had a long holiday season so there wasn't a lot of activities16:03
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rakhmerovgenerally, right before the holidays we decided to implement some additional things that should be included into PoC16:04
rakhmerovhi gokrokve!16:04
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rakhmerovhow are you?16:04
gokrokvedoing well.16:04
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rakhmerovok )16:05
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rakhmerovbriefly describing what these new features are I can say that it's mostly related with DSL16:05
rakhmerovwe want to add direct transitions between tasks16:06
rakhmerovas opposed to our current approach where we just define dependencies (similar to makefile) between tasks16:06
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rakhmerovwe also want to add conditional expressions for both dependency declarations and direct transition declarations16:07
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rakhmerovand since we need conditional expressions we'll have to implement Data Flow16:07
rakhmerovhere is the etherpad that summarizes all these things:16:08
rakhmerovfor now we decided to proceed with option #3 which is a hybrid of dependencies and direct transitions16:08
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rakhmerovunless we change this decision today16:08
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gokrokveLets keep #3 for now.16:09
gokrokveWhen dwill you have this implemented?16:09
rakhmerovmy estimation was 2 weeks16:10
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rakhmerovso it means the end of the next week16:10
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rakhmerovso, do we have any concerns about new DSL syntax or anything else?16:11
rakhmerovmaybe suggestions on how to improve it16:11
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rakhmerov#action proceed with option #3 in
rakhmerovwhile you're thinking I'll tell you briefly about the current status16:12
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rakhmerovso now we have implemented the simple model with declaring dependencies between tasks16:13
rakhmerovwe have a REST action16:13
rakhmerovwe have a very simple demo that demonstrates that16:13
rakhmerovwe also have required code to call periodic tasks related to real OpenStack calls16:14
rakhmerovI mean keystone trusts16:14
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rakhmerovour QA team has also implemented basic tempest test suite for Mistral API16:15
tnurlygayanovrakhmerov, can you please tell how to obtain the demo? Is it demo app in mistral repository or something else?16:15
rakhmerovfor the last couple of days we've been refactoring our current engine implementation a little bit16:15
tnurlygayanovyes, tempest tests for Mistral can be found by the following link:
rakhmerovtnurlygayanov, currently it's a part of the same repository16:16
rakhmerovgive me a second, I'll find a link16:16
rakhmerovhere it is:
rakhmerovbtw, I was going to request a new repository for this16:17
rakhmerovI thought it would be called like "mistral-samples"16:17
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rakhmerovbut there was an idea to create a repo "mistral-ext" for all additional things we might want to have16:18
rakhmerovincluding examples16:18
rakhmerovwe can actually make this decision right now16:18
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rakhmerovI already request a new repo "mistral-pythonclient", it's being reviewed16:19
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tnurlygayanovrakhmerov, python-mistralclient will be more 'OpenStack-like'16:19
rakhmerovwow, I confused the name16:20
rakhmerovit is python-mistralclient, right16:20
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rakhmerovit now has -1 but the comment has already been addresed16:20
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rakhmerovJeremy just needs to take a look at it again16:20
rakhmerovI'll ping him today16:21
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rakhmerovso what about "mistral-ext" or "mistral-extensions" ?16:21
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rakhmerovit can include sample applications, some additional tools maybe16:21
NikolayMmaybe mistral-extra ?16:21
tnurlygayanovmistral-extensions looks good.16:22
rakhmerovI like it a little bit better too16:23
rakhmerovit looks more explicit16:23
fungirakhmerov: i'll go back over it16:23
rakhmerovooh, thanks16:23
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NikolayMthere is already existing repo *-extra for savanna16:24
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ativelkovwhy would we need a separate repo for examples?16:25
rakhmerovbecause we don't want to mix them with the core project itself16:25
rakhmerovphysically it should be a different storage I think16:25
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rakhmerovbasically, demo apps are clients of Mistral, not a part of it16:26
rakhmerovand we may have many of them16:26
rakhmerovNikolayM, what does savanna-extra contain?16:27
NikolayMit contains some additional image-elements (or contained before) and there was patch for hadoop swiftFS16:28
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rakhmerovso, mistral-extra or mistral-extensions?16:29
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rakhmerovno big difference to me16:29
NikolayMom,there are examples in savanna-extra16:30
gokrokveIt will be great to have plugins in Mistral.16:31
rakhmerovyou mean in this new repo?16:31
gokrokveIt is better to have pluggable mechanism at the beginning.16:31
rakhmerovgenerally, yes, I agree, we were planning to have plugins for Mistral16:31
rakhmerovok, I would suggest we proceed with "mistral-extra" then16:31
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rakhmerovit will be aligned with savanna naming16:32
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rakhmerov#action create new repo "mistral-extra" to move demo applications into it16:32
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rakhmerovso getting back to DSL changes16:33
rakhmerovis everyone ok with them?16:33
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rakhmerovif yes, we'll start implementing them shortly16:33
rakhmerovwe don't have much time, we need to get it done as soon as possible16:34
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NikolayMwhat about task property names in DSL?16:34
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NikolayMescpecially 'OnSuccess' and 'OnError'?16:35
rakhmerovwhat exactly?16:35
rakhmerovok, initially we suggested just "SUCCESS" and "ERROR"16:35
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rakhmerovtwo sections to describe what we do next in case if a task succeeded or failed16:36
rakhmerovbut some folks didn't like "SUCCESS" and "ERROR" :)16:36
rakhmerovand suggested "OnSuccess" and "OnError"16:37
rakhmerovI'm ok with both options, there was just a concern that "OnXXX" means that they are mutually exclusive16:37
rakhmerovand in case we don't have "On" prefix we can define a logic to handle, for example, an error locally without jumping over tasks in a workflow16:38
rakhmerov but to me it seems to be similar16:39
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rakhmerov"OnSuccess" and "OnError" may be more readable16:39
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joel_c1rakhmerov: I agree that 'onXXX' is more readable16:40
rakhmerovand semantically it can mean both "mutual exclusive" or "sequential"16:40
rakhmerovjoel_c1, glad to see you here :)16:40
rakhmerovthanks, yes16:40
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rakhmerovso we decided then?16:41
rakhmerov"OnSuccess" and "OnError"16:42
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NikolayMI agree with 'OnXXX'16:42
rakhmerov#action proceed with names "OnSuccess" and "OnError" for task sections to describe what to do in case of success and failure16:42
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rakhmerovguys, is there anything else that you would like to discuss today?16:43
rakhmerovif no, I would suggest we finish for today. Looks like we have a plan to go with16:44
rakhmerovalright, thanks to everyone16:44
rakhmerovI'll see you next Monday16:45
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NobodyCam#startmeeting Ironic19:00
NobodyCam#chair devananda19:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan 13 19:00:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at
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openstackCurrent chairs: NobodyCam devananda19:00
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NobodyCamWelcome back everyone19:00
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NobodyCamwho's here for the ironic meeting19:00
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NobodyCamwelcome everyone19:01
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NobodyCam#topic announcements19:01
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NobodyCamIcehouse release progress // graduation?19:02
NobodyCamdevananda: is that you?19:02
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devanandawell. it's all of us :)19:02
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devanandatl;dr - the TC is going to be looking at all the incubated projects this week19:03
devanandato guage progress towards graduation19:03
devanandaparticularly to compare everything to the newly-approved guidelines19:03
devanandawhich, in case folks haven't seen them, are here19:03
dkehndevananda: do you hae a link to the new guidelines?19:03
dkehndevananda: nevermind19:04
devanandai also want to remind / inform folks taht we, as a project, need to start being better about how we communicate our plans19:04
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devanandawhich is done by targeting thigns (bugs, BPs, etc) towards releases and milestones19:04
devanandayou can see what's targeted here:19:05
devanandaanyone should be able to set the "target" for bugs19:05
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devanandawith I2 coming up, I'd like to take a few minutes to review the targeted things, particularly BPs19:06
devanandaand see if we need to retarget anything19:06
devananda#topic Blueprints for I2 milestone19:07
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devanandalet's jsut go down the list19:07
devanandadkehn: hi!19:07
NobodyCamdevananda: add-neutron-support is it really essential?19:07
dkehndevananda: hi19:07
devanandadkehn: you've got a patch up for neutron. is there much more to do?19:07
devanandadkehn: or does it just need testing?19:07
dkehnIt just needs testing, as you can see19:08
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devanandaNobodyCam: without neutron support, tripleo won't be able to use ironic. so, IMO, yes.19:08
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devanandadkehn: great. want to update the BP status?19:08
NobodyCamdevananda: ack19:08
dkehnthere is more tessting code that actual code, and I ran out of time to complete it all19:08
dkehnI will be working on it but this week is the neutron sprint in Montreal19:09
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dkehnso there will be limited time to complete until I get back19:09
dkehnassuming I get back19:09
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dkehnthats it19:09
devanandadkehn: taht's fine. I'll set it to "needs testing" :)19:09
devanandaerr, "needs code review", i mean19:09
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devanandaPXE driver BP...19:10
devanandahas no one assigned.19:10
devanandathat one landed long ago, but we're all jsut now testing it19:10
dkehndevananda: I'll get it out of WIP then19:10
devanandaanyone want to take point on that BP? GheRivero ? NobodyCam ?19:10
GheRiveroI can take it19:11
devanandaGheRivero: thanks19:11
NobodyCam:0 faster then I19:11
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devanandaromcheg: around?19:12
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romchegdevananda: yup19:12
NobodyCamdevananda: we'll need to get the "get service url" working for that19:12
devanandasunjing: around?19:12
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devanandaromcheg: I think the "intelligent routing for RPC" BP is superceded by my consistent hash BP. what do you think?19:13
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haomeng2jing is not around i think19:13
romchegI think we discussed that already :)19:13
romchegI agree with you19:13
devanandaromcheg: k :) I'll close that BP19:13
GheRiveroI will have something about "get service url" soon19:13
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NobodyCamGheRivero: W00t19:13
romchegdevananda: thanks19:13
lucasagomesI'm also fixing the ironic-rootwrap19:13
lucasagomescouple of problems with it19:14
devanandaGheRivero: great! I saw some discussion in channel about it19:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1268696 in ironic "On Ubuntu: /usr/local/bin/ironic-rootwrap: Executable not found: /sbin/iscsiadm" [Undecided,In progress]19:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1268674 in ironic "ironic-rootwrap: No section: 'Filters'" [Undecided,In progress]19:14
lucasagomesthat's needed for pxe19:14
NobodyCamlucasagomes: was that the reviews you just put up?19:14
lucasagomesNobodyCam, yes19:14
NobodyCam:) will look at after meeting19:15
lucasagomesthere's one more needed but on devstack19:15
devanandalucasagomes: ahh. IIRC, that has a different path19:15
rloolucasagomes: don't forget to specify the milestone on those bugs :-)19:15
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lucasagomesrloo, +119:15
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linggaodevananda, I can try to answer your questions for sun jing for relate them to her.19:16
lucasagomesdevananda, yup it does... but as nova also does not use absolute paths on the filters19:16
devanandalinggao: hi!19:16
lucasagomesI think we might want to go with the same approach19:16
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devanandalinggao: how's progress on the "use ipmitool for serial console" work? I've seen a patch up but haven't had time to test it yet19:17
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devanandalinggao: is that patch a complete implementation, or is there mroe to do?19:17
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devanandalucasagomes: could you also set importance for your bugs?19:18
linggaodevananda, from the conversation I had with her last wek, she has put the implementation for serial console using ipmitool in the patch.19:18
lucasagomesdevananda, +1 yes19:18
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devanandalucasagomes: i trust that you can guage the importance of a bug -- and really, most of us should be able to triage bugs now :)19:19
devanandalinggao: great!19:19
devanandalinggao: i'll update teh BP19:19
linggaodevanandan, she was going to change it to use the Console interface to start or stop the condole instead of puting them in the power on/off funcitions like nova did19:19
linggaobut I am not sure they check that code in or not.19:19
devanandalinggao: never mind -- nothing to update. it already has the right status :)19:19
devanandalinggao: ah. it should indeed use the console interface now19:20
devanandasounds like it may not be complete by I2 then19:20
lucasagomesdevananda, right :) yea I need to take a better look at our bug list. I fixed the ones assigned to me awhile ago.19:20
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linggaothe to-do for that BP is to implement the console interface usng the ipminative, that will be done after icehouse19:20
devanandalinggao: that's fine19:21
devanandaok, i'd like to move on, so we dont spend the whole meeting on BP's19:21
devanandathanks everyone :)19:21
NobodyCamdevananda: do the seamicro bp need to me tagged as i219:21
devanandaNobodyCam: let's talk about the seamicro BPs in a bit19:22
devanandathey were jsut proposed a few days ago19:22
devananda#topic Tempest API tests19:22
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haomeng2devananda, i will try to triage some bugs19:22
devanandaI want to thank romcheg for all the work he did on this19:22
romchegI have exciting news about the test19:22
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romchegBut everyone already knows them :)19:23
devanandaromcheg: hehe, but please, say it anyway :)19:23
haomeng2great ;)19:23
romchegSo everything got merged19:23
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NobodyCamawesome romcheg19:24
lucasagomesgood stuff :)19:24
romchegTempest tests can be manually triggered for every ironic patch by leaving "check experimental" on review19:24
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devanandaalso, we will soon have tempest API checks in our gate, once this lands19:24
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devanandaso every patch to Ironic will spin up devstack. expect jenkins to become slower ...19:24
devanandathe same tests will also run for every tempest and devstack patch -- but in non-voting mode19:24
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haomeng2inclouding pxe_ssh driver?19:25
devanandahaomeng2: right now, this is only for exercising our API19:25
haomeng2ok got19:26
devanandait's an integration test -- make sure all the components of Ironic integrate with each other19:26
romcheghaomeng2: agordeev1 is working on that19:26
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devanandafunctional test (can it actually DO a deployment) is being worked on still19:26
romchegI'm trying to help them since I got more familiar with infra19:26
devanandai'm hoping we haev that by I3 milestone19:26
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devananda#topic Nova driver19:27
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devanandaNobodyCam: that's you - any announcements? besides how awesome it is? :)19:27
NobodyCam:) I need to actually start writing tests19:27
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NobodyCamits getting there19:27
devanandai had a brief chat with a few nova folks at LCA -- as I thought, we'll need to split the patch up for it to land19:28
NobodyCamstill 100% but I think we worked out a way to map the drivers requirments so nova will know what each driver needs19:28
NobodyCamoh ya19:28
NobodyCamthe full review is up at19:28
lucasagomeswould be that something that we might want our drivers to say as well?19:28
NobodyCamlooks for link19:28
devanandalucasagomes: you mean in our /drivers/ api?19:29
lucasagomesfor example, by GET /drivers, would also return a list of the mandatory parameters19:29
lucasagomeswith an description etc19:29
lucasagomesdevananda, yes19:29
devanandalucasagomes: i think we talked about that early on. Yea, eventually I think they should19:29
NobodyCamlucasagomes: yes I would like to make that dynamic19:30
lucasagomesah right, yea that would be very useful19:30
devanandalucasagomes: so that other clients can retrieve said list, then populate driver_info, then call validate to see if they got everything19:30
NobodyCambut the good news is we are acryally calling deploy from the driver19:30
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devanandalucasagomes: but nova will still need some static mapping there, I expect19:30
NobodyCamI am would like feedback on the mapping and anyother bit of the driver19:31
devanandaNobodyCam: one thing on building that review into a dib image that I learned last week19:32
devanandaNobodyCam: you can tell dib to pull in a patch/rev via env vars now19:32
devanandajust set this19:32
devanandaexport DIB_REPOLOCATION_nova=
devanandaexport DIB_REPOREF_nova=refs/changes/28/51328/819:32
lucasagomesright, maybe having a bug ticket to implement that ( wishlist ) would be great, I can file that later19:32
devanandainstead of hard-coding it in your element install script19:32
devanandalucasagomes: ++19:32
NobodyCamdevananda: I can look at refactoring the element i have up in my repo19:33
NobodyCamor I saw you may have started a new one19:34
NobodyCamdevananda: just dropped19:35
NobodyCamare there anyquestions on the nova driver19:36
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devananda#topic functional testing19:36
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devanandajust a quick note here - i'll be talking with agordeev1 later today about this19:36
devanandaand romcheg hopefully, too19:37
devanandafunctional testing is a requirement for graduation, and we should have it in our gate ASAP. certainly no later than I319:37
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devananda#topic tripleo integration19:37
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devanandaagain, just a quick note -19:38
devanandai think we can simplify the current walkthrough in our wiki19:38
devanandaand merge most of that up into tripleo at this point19:38
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devanandain fact, we will need to at some point have tripleo support both baremetal and ironic in parallel19:39
devanandawith an ENV var to toggle it19:39
devanandaso that folks using tripleo can migrate19:39
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devanandaNobodyCam: you've been maintaining that mostly, so once i'm back in the states, let's hash those changes out19:39
NobodyCamdevananda: I have had a hard time in the past getting env var thru the oOo revirew processs19:39
NobodyCamdevananda: ack19:40
devanandawith 20 minutes left...19:40
devananda#topic SeaMicro proposals19:40
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k4n0Hi folks19:40
k4n0Rohan here19:40
NobodyCamhi rohan19:40
k4n0Seamicro is proposing ironic drivers for its products19:41
NobodyCamk4n0: do you think you can have all that by i219:41
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k4n0working very hard on that19:41
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devanandak4n0: i just saw your reply on the BP regarding the seamicro client lib19:42
k4n0devananda: yes, does that sound ok?19:42
devanandak4n0: good stuff! I'm thrilled to see support for seamicro getting added19:43
devanandak4n0: yep, sounds fine19:43
lucasagomes# link
k4n0we will need talk about functional testing of drivers though19:43
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devanandak4n0: we (will) have the same requirement that Nova does -- all third-party drivers need functional testing on real hardware19:44
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romchegRegarding to testing: I think we will have to chose the neutron's ways19:44
devanandak4n0: tripleo has been working on some specifications for how folks contribute it19:44
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devanandaromcheg: what do you mean exactly?19:44
romchegWhen vendors set up their own environment which is open for OpenStack CI19:45
devanandaneutron has had a lot of difficulties in the past, but working on improving it...19:45
romchegThen we'll be able to run TripleO's periodic tasks againts that hardware19:45
NobodyCamdevananda: are the requirments for the hardware venders need to put up?19:46
k4n0that would be helpful19:46
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devanandaNobodyCam: i haven't written them up specifically yet (on my list...)19:47
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devanandabut lifeless has written it up for tripleo, and I'd like to point fokls to that for the time being19:48
k4n0will do19:48
devanandak4n0: broadly speaking, there are two kidns of testing which jenkins can support19:48
devanandavoting and non-voting19:48
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devanandainfra has very strict requirements on things which can vote in the gate, since that will affect ALL projects19:49
k4n0right, so where do the third party functional tests go?19:49
devanandawe're still discussing exactly where in the matrix of possible tests vendor drivers need to fit for ironic19:49
devanandaright :)19:49
devanandamy current view is that it's the intersection of19:50
devananda*somewhere near the19:50
k4n0something like turbo-hipster?19:50
devanandacheck + gate for all patches in Ironic19:50
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romchegdevananda: wouldn't that be too expensive for vendors?19:51
devanandaromcheg: how else can we know taht some patch doesn't break support for that vendor?19:51
devanandaromcheg: how else do we prevent regressions and ensure support for the things which are landed in trunk?19:51
romchegdevananda: there's no other way I think :(19:52
devanandak4n0: what do you think?19:52
devanandak4n0: will you guys be able to test, at a minimum, all patches to ironic (both check and gate pipelines)19:52
k4n0I think so, will need to check on this19:53
devanandaignoring for the moment that we're still working out bugs in our deploy process, and dont have functional tests written into devstack :)19:53
k4n0Does neutron do the same?19:53
devanandak4n0: neutron is moving towards this model19:53
devanandak4n0: and nova is kicking out all the drivers which aren't doing this19:53
k4n0:) ok, i can talk to my folks, get back to you on this19:54
devanandathanks :)19:54
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devanandak4n0: any other questions for us?19:54
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k4n0we can get the blueprints in after i2 right?19:55
k4n0i mean, do we have to wait till i3?19:55
NobodyCami was thinking maybe we should tag as i3 for now19:55
devanandak4n0: targeting a BP is just a way of communicating expectations19:56
NobodyCamthey can ofc land sooner19:56
k4n0ok, we will try to finish sooner19:56
k4n0i2 is good for now19:56
devanandak4n0: i'm fine with it targetted to i319:57
devanandak4n0: oh! also, here's the link for tripleo's requirements for additional regions -- not goign to be exactly the same as ours, but may be worth reading, particularly if you gys are also looking at tripleo support19:57
k4n0devananda: thanks !19:58
k4n0I am done with my questions19:58
NobodyCamand we have two minutes19:58
k4n0thank you everyone, I will try to hang around every meeting :)19:58
devananda#topic open discussion19:58
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NobodyCamk4n0: great also hang out in channel too19:58
devanandak4n0: please join us in #openstack-ironic too19:58
max_loburas for race condition problem19:59
k4n0ohh cool, didnt know that channel19:59
max_loburthere are 3 links in agenda19:59
devanandak4n0: and thanks again -- I'm really thrilled to see SeaMicro contributing :)19:59
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1259910 in ironic "race condition when changing node states" [Medium,In progress]19:59
NobodyCamdevananda: +119:59
lucasagomesI don't think we have time to talk about the race condition (1min left)19:59
NobodyCammax_lobur: you put up a19:59
NobodyCampoc today?19:59
NobodyCamon that19:59
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lucasagomesdevananda, could you take a look at that bug ticket when u get some free time?19:59
devanandalucasagomes: will do19:59
lucasagomesNobodyCam, he did already20:00
lucasagomesthere's one patch fixing it using the thread approach20:00
NobodyCamhae the link for the log20:00
devanandalucasagomes: let's discuss the bug back in channel though20:00
NobodyCamgreat meeting every one20:00
devanandathanks everyone!20:00
NobodyCamty lucasagomes20:00
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Swamihi all21:00
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markmcclainarmax, arosen, emagana: ping21:01
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markmcclain#topic Announcements21:02
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emaganaHello All!! I'm back!21:02
markmcclainThe Tempest/Neutron code sprint starts this week21:02
* mestery waves at emagana.21:02
markmcclainwe'll talk about it later in the agenda21:02
markmcclainemagana: wb21:02
markmcclain#info Icehouse-2 deadline is Jan 23rd21:03
dkehnmarkmcclain: are you in wonderful Montreal21:03
markmcclain#info code should be proposed by Jan 21st for I-221:03
markmcclaindkehn: no I'm in a much warmer location: Atlanta21:03
dkehnk, I was going to ask hows the weather21:04
markmcclainadditionally the 3rd party testing deadline is next week too21:04
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markmcclainwe have many systems reporting, but there are few that aren't or are returning incorrect results21:04
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markmcclainI'll be reaching out to the contacts this week to sync up for those without testing enabled and voting21:05
Sukhdevmarkmcclain: what is the expectation in terms of the tests to run and the details of logs to report back?21:05
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markmcclainSukhdev: the expectation is that a full tempest test be run and the logs be publicly available21:06
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sc68calmarkmcclain: I see some that are voting but do not post logs, like Midokura CI Bot21:06
markmcclainotherwise in the case of a failure proposers will not be able to triage the failures21:06
armaxmarkmcclain: when you say full tempest21:06
armaxare you saying smoke+gate21:06
armaxas the other jenkins neutron runs?21:06
markmcclainsc68cal: right I'll be reaching out to those folks21:06
markmcclainarmax: yes21:07
armaxthat's what we've been doing with vmware mine sweepr21:07
sc68calPublic logs should be a preqreq for voting21:07
markmcclainif that causes for folks please PM or email me21:07
markmcclainsc68cal: they are21:07
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sc68callooks like people aren't respecting that21:07
markmcclainsc68cal: infra made changes recently to not allow systems to vote until the reliability has been proven21:08
markmcclainthat includes posting logs21:08
sc68calok - I'll shut up now :)21:08
markmcclaina few of the early systems may have slipped through21:08
markmcclainlastly… I've got a new email address21:09
dkehnhere it comes21:09
emagana markmcclain: congs on the move!21:09
markmcclainmmcclain at yahoo-inc.com21:10
dkehncue crickets21:10
markmcclainThe move allows me to continue focusing on upstream21:10
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markmcclainemagana: thanks21:11
arosen^cue cricks* Congrats21:11
markmcclainThanks all!21:11
dkehnarosen: when its quiet like that all you can hear in the crickets21:11
markmcclainThere's lots to cover this week on the agenda, so let's dive in21:12
markmcclain#topic Bugs21:12
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markmcclainLast week many of you probably felt the pain of extremely long merge queue21:13
markmcclainit was really a combination of critical bugs piling up causing lots of gate resets21:14
markmcclainwe're got 4 critical bugs21:15
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markmcclainsalv-orlando is stuck on a plane21:15
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markmcclainbut has tracked down a solution for 125389621:15
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1253896 in neutron "Attempts to verify guests are running via SSH fails. SSH connection to guest does not work." [Critical,In progress]21:15
markmcclainhe expects to post a revised patch soon21:16
markmcclainthere are also patches up for review for parallel testing tempest21:16
markmcclainthose are some good patches to get more core review cycles especially heading into Montreal this week21:17
enikanorov_how do you check if the bug is hit recently?21:17
enikanorov_is there tools other than kibana?21:17
markmcclainenikanorov_: logstash+kibana is the best way21:18
enikanorov_i see21:18
enikanorov_i dont see hits for bug 1210483 for the last 7 days21:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1210483 in neutron "ServerAddressesTestXML.test_list_server_addresses FAIL" [Critical,Confirmed]
markmcclainenikanorov_: ok.. make a note of that in bug21:18
markmcclainand we can re-triage it21:18
markmcclainany other critical bugs we need to discuss?21:19
markmcclain#topic Docs21:19
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markmcclainemagana: hi21:19
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emaganaHello there!  Still catching up21:19
markmcclainok that's fine.. when you're up to speed feel free to up the community via the ML21:20
markmcclain#topic Nova Parity21:20
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markmcclainbeagles: hi21:20
emaganaIt seems that HA documentation is quite outdated, there is a proposal for deprecating some section, EmilienM already sent me some proposals21:20
markmcclainemagana: great21:20
emaganamarkmcclain: sure, I will do21:20
markmcclainbeagles: big report21:21
markmcclainany highlights you'd like to cover?21:21
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beaglesyes, a lot has been going on... some of which I've uncovered just today. Thanks to everyone!21:21
beaglesI'd like to highlight the NotImplemented exceptions in the neutronv2/api.py21:21
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beaglesSome of these are probably low hanging fruit and some may require input from more savvy indiividuals21:22
markmcclainok.. so we'll need to create bugs and triage?21:23
beaglestwo things about it then are I was thinking it would be good to represent these through launchpad bugs and ...21:23
markmcclain+1 to creating LP bugs21:23
beaglesyes.. maybe if we could sketch out a 1/2 hour or so at some point and 3 or 4 of us just collaboratively drive through the triage21:23
markmcclainI'll be stuck on a plane for a few hours tomorrow21:23
beaglesthe list isn't *all* that long and the nature of the APIs are typically pretty simple21:23
beaglesI'll create the bz's this week.. .maybe if we can do it early next if they haven't been gotten to already ;)21:24
markmcclainI'll ping you offline about collaborating on triaging the bugs21:24
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beaglesI think that's all I have for highlighting at the moment21:25
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markmcclainok.. thanks for the detailed update in the agenda21:25
markmcclainAny nova parity questions?21:25
markmcclain#topic Tempest21:26
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markmcclainmlavalle: hi21:26
mlavalleI also updated the agenda21:26
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markmcclaingreat thank you21:27
mlavallefolks are contributing code21:27
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markmcclainyeah it is nice to see so many reviews21:27
mlavalleI had an exchange with Sumit regarding enabling fwaas in the gate21:27
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: my suggestion we hold off until after I221:28
mlavalleso we can running the tests under development for it21:28
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markmcclainI agree holding off until after I-2 makes sense21:28
mlavalleYes, the greement is to hold off until after icehouse 221:28
SumitNaiksatamdon't want to disrupt curent efforts21:28
SumitNaiksatamin stabilizing L3 agent21:28
mlavallefully in agreement with this21:29
SumitNaiksatammlavalle: great, thanks for brining it up21:29
mlavallethe other thing that I want o highlight is that we already have a scenario test for vpnaas21:29
mlavalleI would like nati_ueno to take a first look at it21:29
mlavalleit's wip21:30
markmcclainoh cool21:30
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nati_uen_mlavalle: COOL!21:30
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nati_uen_mlavalle: let's me take a look21:30
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mlavalleI'm not the author. it was written by Joris Roovers21:31
mlavalleand I'll see some of you in balmy Montreal21:31
markmcclainyeah much better weather this week21:31
gongyshsince vpnaas fwaas is in experiment phase, should we put it into gate test?21:31
markmcclainvpnaas yes.. fwaas let's wait until after I-221:32
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mlavallethat's all I have21:32
markmcclaingongysh: vpn is already enabled in the gate testing21:32
salv-mobileAloha. Sorry for being so late.21:33
markmcclainmlavalle: thanks for the update21:33
markmcclainsalv-mobile: no worries.. just updated everyone based on your email from earlier21:33
markmcclain#topic API21:33
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gongyshI just think we should define what is experiment phase.21:33
markmcclainsalv-mobile: just in time.. any API updates for this week?21:33
markmcclaingongysh: fwaas API is the only service we released marked as experimental in the Havana release notes21:34
gongyshthanks. got it.21:35
markmcclainnot sure if salv-mobile dropped offline, but I don't think he had an API updates for this week21:35
markmcclain#topic IPv621:35
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markmcclainsc68cal: hi21:35
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markmcclainlooks like we're no longer blocked on tail-f correct?21:36
sc68calCorrect :)21:36
sc68calHowever, we're seeking input on how to proceed on the subnet mode keyword patch21:36
sc68calapi extension vs. change to core21:36
sc68calI started a new mailing list e-mail to discuss21:36
salv-mobileNo api updates... But I will comment on sc68cal issue21:37
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salv-mobileOn the mailing list21:37
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markmcclainok  I'd encourage folks to chime in on that thread21:38
markmcclainsc68cal: any other updates?21:38
sc68calNope - that's it. Please do contribute to that thread21:38
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markmcclainsc68cal: thanks for the update21:39
markmcclain#topic ML221:39
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markmcclainrkukura, mestery: hi21:39
mesteryI think we've made progress on the port binding issues which have plagued some ML2 MechanismDriver creators.21:40
mesteryrkukura is working on a patch for that now in fact.21:40
mesteryThat was the main topic at our meeting last week in fact. :)21:40
mesteryThat's the high level update from ML2 unless rkukura has anything else.21:40
enikanorov_what's with patches that fix migrations for ml2?21:40
enikanorov_we have a few21:41
enikanorov_on review, I mean21:41
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mesteryenikanorov_: I think I've seen a few of those, have they not gone in yet? I'll make sure to review those today yet.21:41
rkukuraenikanorov_: I will look too21:41
markmcclainenikanorov_: the problem with reviews is we're changing released migrations21:42
emaganamestery: I remember this patch had some ML2 implications, are those fine now?
markmcclainunfortunately sqlalchemy does not support some of the conditional SQL we'll need to make the migrations work in offline mode21:42
enikanorov_markmcclain: yes, I know. I remember your conversation with Roman21:42
mesteryemagana: I'll take a peek at that one in closer detail.21:43
emaganamestery: Thanks!21:43
markmcclainI started working on possible fixes, but the offline fix has been a bigger challenge than I'd like21:44
markmcclainI'll craft a post to the ML this week on various paths forward21:44
markmcclainmestery: thanks for the ML2 update21:44
markmcclainAny other questions?21:44
mesterymarkmcclain: Sure!21:45
markmcclain#topic VPN21:45
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markmcclainnati_uen_: looks like this has been up for review for some time21:45
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nati_uen_markmcclain: yes. I'm also working on review comments21:46
nati_uen_markmcclain: I'll push new review today21:46
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markmcclainperfect any other updates from the VPN team?21:46
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nati_uen_That's it21:46
markmcclainthanks for updating21:46
markmcclain#topic FWaaS21:46
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markmcclainSumitNaiksatam: hi21:47
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markmcclainwe've talked about activating fwaas in the gate post I-221:47
pcm_would be nice to get the service type frameworkfor VPN21:47
SumitNaiksatamwe have a couple of reviews21:47
markmcclainany other items?21:47
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SumitNaiksatamwould like to get the service provider reviewed in at the earliest21:47
markmcclainone of the reviews on the agenda looks to be anbandoned21:47
SumitNaiksatamhmmm...let me check21:48
SumitNaiksatambut other than that, the discussion for wait until I221:48
markmcclainif we rebase and repush that will be reactivate it21:48
SumitNaiksatammarkmcclain: yeah21:48
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markmcclainok.. I'll add a reminder to revisit fwaas items after I-2 is branched21:48
markmcclain#topic LBaaS21:49
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markmcclainSumitNaiksatam: thanks for the update21:49
SumitNaiksatammarkmcclain: sure21:49
markmcclainenikanorov_: we've been discussing resource declarations in #openstack-neutron21:49
markmcclainany other items to raise?21:49
enikanorov_we have a few workitems right now21:49
enikanorov_besides loadbalancer instance those are ssl extension21:49
enikanorov_and l7 rules21:49
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enikanorov_and also a patch which allows to use one driver with several provider names21:50
enikanorov_to be able to specify additional settings for the same actual provider21:50
markmcclainyeah I saw that.. that is kind of venturing into flavor territory21:51
enikanorov_that patch is in pretty good shape in case it is a desired direction21:51
markmcclainand might be a good general discussion because flavors make more sense long term21:51
enikanorov_another item, a littlebit unrelated to lbaas is about configuration files21:51
enikanorov_we've introduced services.conf a while ago21:51
enikanorov_to put vendor-specific stuff there (for adv/ services)21:51
enikanorov_Sean Dague has objection to this practice21:52
enikanorov_of increasing amount of files passed to a service in cmd line21:52
enikanorov_I've started a thread on ML on the matter21:52
markmcclainenikanorov_: agreed the more we pass the more unwieldy it gets21:52
markmcclainthanks for starting a thread21:53
enikanorov_appreciate if you add your opinion21:53
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markmcclainI've got a got a few thoughts, I'll chime in21:53
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markmcclainAnything else?21:53
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markmcclainenikanorov_: thanks for updating21:54
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markmcclain#topic General Discussion21:54
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markmcclainWe finished with 6 minutes to spare this week21:54
pcm_VPNaas: would be nice to get the service type framework code reviews - and
yamahataI'm arranging a f2f meeting for advanced service vm framework in Santa Clara Jan 2021:55
nati_uen_yeah, hopefully, we could get two core on it21:55
markmcclainpcm_: looks like amotoki and I are the cores on it21:55
amotokipcm_: will look at it21:55
nati_uen_markmcclain: amotoki: Thanks21:55
yamahataIf you want to attend, please let contact me as I announced on the ML.21:55
shivhmarkmcclain: forwarded an email to u on your new addr21:55
markmcclainshivh: thanks… I'll look at it after the meeting21:56
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markmcclainyamahata: 1/20 is a holiday for many US based companies21:56
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yamahatamarkmcclain, yes, but it's fixed due to other tight schedules. I've already got some to attend.21:57
markmcclainAny other items for this week?21:58
dkehnsee all in Montreal21:58
nati_uen_Do you have any wether info in montreal?21:58
nati_uen_it looks ok (-13 c) as far as I know21:58
dkehn30 F for the week21:59
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markmcclainnati_uen_: I'm showing around slightly above/below freezing during the days21:59
nati_uen_dkehn: Thanks21:59
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nati_uen_markmcclain: scary21:59
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Sukhdevwow!! 40 is good - not bad..22:00
markmcclainOk we are out of time for this week22:00
marunexcept…slush and freezing rain22:00
mesteryYou folks have fun in the northern tundra this week. :)22:00
* mestery grumbles about real cold in the meantime.22:00
markmcclainfor those traveling to Montreal safe travels and see you all there22:00
dkehnmestery: this should be like summer for you22:01
markmcclainmestery: I need to pack shorts right?22:01
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nati_uen_mestery: Montreal is the coldest place I have ever visit!22:01
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mesterymarkmcclain: Ha! And thanks!22:01
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mesterynati_uen_: Have fun in the cold my friend! :)22:01
enikanorov_good bye all22:02
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nati_uen_mestery: I should give up my silicon valley fashion style (Vendor t-short and jeans)22:04
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sarobhello etc peoples23:00
sarobthe meeting starts now23:00
sarob#startmeeting milk23:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'milk'23:00
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sarobmeeting agenda is posted on
sarobroll call, who do we have with us today?23:01
MrJoshuaJoshua Kolden23:02
keyvanKeyvan Fatehi, developer @ DigitalFilm Tree23:02
GAUBUCHONGuillaume Aubuchon, CTO @ DigitalFilm Tree23:02
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sarobokay, lets go23:03
sarob#topic finalize weekly meeting time 3pm PST 2200 UTC on #openstack-meeting23:03
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sarob#vote 3pm PST as meeting time23:04
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MrJoshuaHmm, suboptmial for me in the middle of the day, I'd prefer beginning of the day, lunch time, or end of day, but I'll make whatever work.23:06
sarobdo we have agreement to keep this as the meeting time going forward?23:06
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sarobim good with 12pm or 3pm23:06
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keyvanit's OK for me but my cohort, Jeanre is in south africa and 3pm is a bit late for him, as it's 1 AM his time23:06
sarobso 12pm pst would be 10pm local?23:07
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keyvanyeah that works for him, he usually signs off at like 1PM23:07
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keyvan1PM Pacific23:08
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sarobokay so we have 3 votes for 12pm pst mondays23:08
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sarob#action milk-dev meeting time on #openstack-meeting 12pm PST going forward23:08
GAUBUCHONSOunds good to me23:09
sarob#topic create mailing list milk-dev@etcusc.org23:09
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sarobso this is a google group with thread history here!forum/milk-dev23:10
sarobany problems with how this is working so far?23:10
keyvani like it, nice job with the Wiki and all this stuff :)23:10
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sarobone happy customer, yeah23:11
sarobhow about the rest of yous?23:11
GAUBUCHONI think it will work, I like that it keeps record23:12
MrJoshuaYep, looks good to me.  I haven't tried to edit the wiki or anything, but looks like a good way to start at leaste.23:12
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sarobah, right for editing the wiki, you will need to create a launchpad account23:13
sarobpainless, free and easy23:13
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sarobanyone can edit the wiki and history is maintained for booboos23:13
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sarob#topic share existing metadata API with group as starting point23:14
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sarobwho should I work with to get this up on the milk wiki?23:15
MrJoshuaWhere are we thinking to host the code?  Github?23:15
GAUBUCHONis there any interest iun creating a google+ circle for this group and then do a weekly hangout?23:15
sarobor rather reference the existing API so we can work on the milk api23:16
sarobgithub roger that23:16
GAUBUCHONWHat existing API are you talking about?23:16
sarobyou offered to start with the metadata api as example23:17
GAUBUCHONAre you talking about doeye, the metadata APi we were working on?23:17
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keyvanGAUBUCHON: i see some stubbing of that here, i imagine this is where we'll fill out more detail pre-writing code?23:17
sarobis the source on github, me cant find it23:17
GAUBUCHONYes we can gladly contribute that as well as code for additional functionality.23:18
keyvan1 sec ill open it23:18
saroboh, coolo23:18
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sarobwe should limit the number of functions supported in the prototype23:18
sarobso we wont want to forklift23:19
sarobbut im open to what we can get done in the time we have23:19
GAUBUCHONWe are opening that right now with MIT licensing23:19
sarobgot it23:19
keyvani need to add a license and ... it is written in rails >.<23:19
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sarobim open to what the group wants to build the prototype on23:20
MrJoshuaAh, rails.  We talked about python, but I'm ok with rails too. However most client side tools in post are python.23:21
keyvanAnd it is lacking docs, but Jeanre and I should probably try to extract the good out into the Wiki, separated from the rails app23:21
sarobyeah, most are python23:21
keyvanyeah lets pull the knowledge / value out of it23:21
keyvanand then make a decision later23:21
sarobwe can focus on the api functions that we think will be good to start from23:22
sarobstructure in milk api23:22
keyvanid like to do it in Python, considering i dont use it much23:22
MrJoshuaWe can prototype and document using something like  And simply create a blueprint doc.23:22
sarobwe can still use wsme, pecan a python api jump23:22
MrJoshuaThen server tech isn't important.23:23
sarobright i like that23:23
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sarobso we have three basic goals for the prototype23:23
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sarob#info Ingesting data from the many changes throughout the media pipeline23:24
sarob#info Metadata from the data stored and the pipeline activities23:24
sarob#info URL/URN marker identification for assets23:24
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sarobdoes doe-eye structure lend to the structure we came up with in dec23:26
keyvani found some docs23:26
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MrJoshuaDo you guys have good coverage with rspec?  We can also use that for docs.23:26
keyvannot sure what you guys came up with in December, my reference point is Guillaume's original document that Jeanre and I used for doe-eye23:27
keyvanalthough Jeanre worked on doe-eye while i did node.js stuff on our other projects23:27
keyvanMrJoshua: looks pretty specced out at the API level23:28
GAUBUCHONIt has some of the fundamentals23:28
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sarobokay we can start here23:30
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MrJoshuaYeah, this looks in some ways similar to what we have for C4.  We abstract things like 'projects' to 'groups' and make lots of different things (including projects) out of groups, and we differentiate 'assets' from other types of data / documents.23:32
sarobwe need to define some actions for the IO and metadata IO APIs23:32
sarobDFT guys take metadata as homework23:33
saroband joshua?23:33
sarobup to you guys23:33
keyvanwhat do you mean take metadata as homework23:34
sarobwe can hold an extended hangout to work out the actions23:34
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sarobwhat actions will the metadata api be capable of23:34
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sarobwhen the metadata client queries23:35
keyvanfrom what i understood from the original docs, vendors are just POSTing data to the API, letting the app know what doc type it is, and then post-processing occurs thereafter to make the potentially unstructured data structured23:37
keyvani know there's a comprehensive listing of the vision behind doe-eye , but i am still trying to figure out if that's what we're seeking to build here, or if milk is a superset or a subset or what23:37
sarobas prototype it should be simple, collaboration project23:39
sarobnot trying to improve on doe-eye or other projects23:39
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sarobrather build a simple prototype with the three goals in mind23:39
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GAUBUCHONI know that we can contribute some of what we have already done. We can contribute for the NAB prototype without rewriting code that has already been written.23:41
sarobif we can get the prototype working, then in may 2014 we start breaking off into groups like metadata, transport, security, archive23:41
saroband continue the development work23:41
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sarobguabuchon sounds good23:41
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keyvanthat makes sense sarob, i like the idea of the 3 goals23:42
sarobkeyvan: excellent23:42
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keyvani wrote them in a piratepad for my own benefit23:42
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keyvanas i know these 3 are like bullet points with many subpoints and discussions that can happen beneath them23:43
keyvani know we wont get to them now, but i like the idea of these as the starting point23:43
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keyvannow the 1st goal, ingesting data etc , is definitely what we were trying to do... any vendor could send us any data23:43
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keyvanthen metadata and pipeline, to me, sounds like the next step we were to undertake which was to have workers try ot decipher/organize/structure the data23:44
GAUBUCHONSo I guess we need to know what the devision of labor is going to be and how we want to proceed23:44
sarobso we prototype a couple of simple ones23:44
keyvanand the URL/URN sounds like the basic request of giving everything a UUID23:44
MrJoshuaIt seems to be where talking mostly about a database gateway, with some interface standardization.  Perhaps tied in with karma so that it can interface with any vender database?23:44
sarobkeyvan: yup you got it23:44
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keyvanMrJoshua: ya karma is cool, were you at the ETC meeting when they demo'd it ?23:45
GAUBUCHONSo if we break that down we already have basic ingest, we already have code that assigns a UUID, let's put that all together to prototype quickly23:45
sarobnope but i have heard some23:45
keyvanMrJoshua: i was the loudmouth at the back being overly appreciative of it :P23:45
MrJoshuahaha, it is cool and seems like what we need.23:46
sarobso you guys want to take a stab at the milk wiki23:46
sarobedit freely brother23:46
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GAUBUCHONI have to jet to antoher call, but we will take a hack through the wiki this week.23:46
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MrJoshuahere's my proposal for uuid: `openssl dgst -sha256 ingestfile`  ;)23:46
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sarob#topic two additional core reviewers23:47
keyvanlol yeah for these insanely large files23:47
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sarobsarob (me) as core reviewer, who else wants the responsibility?23:48
sarobto share23:48
keyvani volunteer Gullaume23:48
keyvanhe accepts23:48
sarobhe left early so its his23:48
MrJoshuaI'm happy to help, as I we talked about on the phone.23:48
keyvanwhen do you think we get to the writing code part ? im a bit excited to take a break from ruby and node.js and learn pro python with unit tests, etc23:49
sarob#action gaubuchon mrjoshua are nominated to core reviewers23:49
sarobfireworks and popcorn fiies23:50
MrJoshuakeyvan: haha.  You can just start writing anything you like.23:50
keyvanwell, i want to know how to write in the style of openstack developers23:50
sarobwellllll, wsme and pecan need to be integrated into milk23:50
MrJoshuaOne thing, however, is I strongly encourage us to develop in a TDD style.23:50
keyvani feel like a bit of an outsider since i dont prefer python23:50
keyvanand i dont know the tools around doing it properly with tests23:51
keyvanyeah MrJoshua definitely23:51
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keyvansarob these hash commands are going into some doc that we'll get at the end of the meeting?23:52
sarobmeetbot tracks them23:52
keyvanand thanks i didnt know about wsme, i would have gone and used CherryPy which is the last tool i used; no tests on that particular app either :P ended up porting it to ruby/sinatra23:52
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sarobkeyvan: you up for checking these out?23:53
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keyvanyea definitly23:53
sarobthey are potential web services creation standards for openstack23:53
sarobthe ceilometer project worked on them23:53
sarobyou could whack the code and post a patch with dummy para23:54
sarobwould get you used to the gerrit review process23:54
sarobi wrote this up for the openstack contribution process23:55
keyvanah ok perfect. yeah that owuld be cool to make use of the gerrit thing23:55
sarob#topic timeline23:55
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keyvando we have a CI infrastructure?23:56
sarobyes sir, we do23:56
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sarobwe are using the stackforge subset of openstack ci23:56
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keyvanhm so its something im unfamiliar with -- well if i get a project up and going i'll ping the group on Google Groups23:57
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keyvanah, wicked23:58
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sarobwe already have everything setup23:58
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sarobmilk repo is under the stackforge parent on githb23:58
keyvanoh yeah i just found it23:59
MrJoshuaI need to get up to speed on it too.23:59
keyvanso i guess it just needs some general direction, and then some code ...23:59
sarobmarch 2014 is our target r2 release23:59
keyvanMrJoshua: empty repo basically

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