| ujuc | :) | 00:00 |
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| gabrielcw | hey! | 00:00 |
| Daisy | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 00:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 16 00:00:26 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Daisy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 00:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 00:00 |
| Daisy | Good morning/evening ! | 00:00 |
| gabrielcw | Hello everyone | 00:00 |
| ujuc | Good moning :)) | 00:00 |
| epico | good morning | 00:01 |
| gabrielcw | good night ;) | 00:01 |
| Daisy | Hello everyone. It's the first time meeting in 2014. | 00:01 |
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| Daisy | I hope you have a good time in new year days. | 00:01 |
| Daisy | Today we will look at the progress of installation guide translation and collect issues if we have. | 00:02 |
| gabrielcw | ok | 00:02 |
| ujuc | ok :) | 00:02 |
| Daisy | #topic Installation guide translation progress and issues | 00:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Installation guide translation progress and issues (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 00:02 | |
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| Daisy | From Transifex, we can see: | 00:03 |
| Daisy | Japanese translation is completed finished. very good work. | 00:03 |
| Daisy | Korean and German have more than 50% completed. Thank you for your hard work, ujuc. | 00:03 |
| ujuc | hu ;) | 00:03 |
| Daisy | Russian, Chinese and Portuguese have certain progress. | 00:04 |
| Daisy | As our plan, we will start to publish translations since today. :) | 00:04 |
| Daisy | It's OK that some teams have not finished. We can publish those who has completed. | 00:04 |
| Daisy | We can publish those translations when complete. | 00:04 |
| gabrielcw | we will have better progress for pt_BR soon, I was short in time | 00:05 |
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| Daisy | Thank you, gabrielcw . | 00:05 |
| Daisy | Our Chinese team will do too. :) | 00:05 |
| Daisy | Since string forzen will start from the beginning of March. I will suggest we complete document translation by the end of February. Or else, the workload in March will become too big. | 00:05 |
| Daisy | I mean, after string frozen, we will move to messages translations. | 00:06 |
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| Daisy | so we'd better to conclude our document translation work in Feb. | 00:06 |
| ujuc | ok :) | 00:06 |
| Daisy | Again, please record the names of conributors. Community should recognize them. I will collect contributors' names from you after we finish this work. Please pay attention too. Thank you. | 00:06 |
| Daisy | ujuc: do you have people to help you in installation guide translation? | 00:07 |
| ujuc | yap | 00:07 |
| Daisy | good. | 00:07 |
| ujuc | :) | 00:07 |
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| Daisy | Community will send free registration codes to those contributors. I know maybe some people won't have chance to fly to US to attend. But it's a kind of recognization. | 00:08 |
| Daisy | #topic translation publish script | 00:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "translation publish script (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 00:09 | |
| Daisy | While the team is translating, we need somebody to take a look at the publish job in Jenkins. | 00:09 |
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| Daisy | We have one to manage operation guide in Japanese's publishing: | 00:10 |
| Daisy | https://jenkins.openstack.org/view/Openstack-manuals/job/openstack-operations-guide-ja/ | 00:10 |
| Daisy | But it doesn't work well now. | 00:10 |
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| Daisy | We need to have the similar jobs for installation guide and for several languages. | 00:10 |
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| Daisy | I'm working it now. I know Tom Fifield is also taking an eye on it too. | 00:11 |
| Daisy | oh. Sorry, forget to mention one important thing in the first topic. | 00:11 |
| Daisy | There are some contents in "installation guide" in the "common" folder. | 00:11 |
| Daisy | https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/openstack-manuals-i18n/resource/common/ | 00:12 |
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| Daisy | Some of the contents of "installation guide" are in the resource of "common" in Transifex. | 00:12 |
| Daisy | some XML files. | 00:12 |
| ujuc | Ummm~~ T.T | 00:13 |
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| Daisy | I will get the name list of XML files and send to ML. So after we translate the strings in "installation guide", we also need to take care of those XMLs in "common". | 00:13 |
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| gabrielcw | right | 00:14 |
| Daisy | #action Daisy to get the name list of XML files in common and send to ML. | 00:14 |
| ujuc | yep | 00:14 |
| ujuc | :) | 00:14 |
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| Daisy | I have finished what I want to talk. :) very quick. | 00:15 |
| Daisy | #topic free discussion | 00:15 |
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| ujuc | :0 hhh | 00:15 |
| Daisy | do you have anything to discussion? | 00:15 |
| gabrielcw | nothing special here, but about the jenkins, i'm no specialist, but I can help maybe | 00:16 |
| ujuc | nothing :) :) | 00:16 |
| Daisy | thank you, gabrielcw . | 00:16 |
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| gabrielcw | i am looking at the code, if I figure it out I'll let you know so I can be useful | 00:17 |
| Daisy | Now the question blocking me is that I don't know how to invoke a script in repository "doc-tools" from our publish Jenkins job. | 00:17 |
| Daisy | We have some scripts called translation tools. | 00:17 |
| Daisy | You know doc team have several repositories for their contents. | 00:18 |
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| Daisy | At the beginning, we put translation tools to every repository. | 00:18 |
| gabrielcw | translation-jobs.yaml? | 00:18 |
| Daisy | Now the translation tools have been moved to a new repository: doc-tools. | 00:19 |
| Daisy | No, gabrielcw | 00:19 |
| Daisy | Let me find a link. | 00:19 |
| ujuc | oh :) | 00:19 |
| gabrielcw | oh, ok | 00:19 |
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| Daisy | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-doc-tools/tree/bin | 00:21 |
| gabrielcw | ok | 00:21 |
| Daisy | You see: generatedocbook and generatepot there? | 00:21 |
| gabrielcw | yes | 00:21 |
| Daisy | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/operations-guide/tree/tools | 00:23 |
| Daisy | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/tools | 00:23 |
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| Daisy | you can also find generatedocbook and generatepot under the above two links to. | 00:24 |
| Daisy | I think, now there should only be one place to put "generatedocbook and generatepot" | 00:24 |
| Daisy | The others should be removed. | 00:24 |
| gabrielcw | I see | 00:24 |
| Daisy | Then I don't know if the others are removed, how to invoke them under operations-guide? | 00:25 |
| Daisy | Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the others should not be removed. :) | 00:25 |
| gabrielcw | but who in fact calls them? | 00:26 |
| Daisy | There is a job in Jenkins. Let me find the link. | 00:26 |
| gabrielcw | that one? | 00:26 |
| gabrielcw | https://jenkins.openstack.org/view/Openstack-manuals/job/openstack-operations-guide-ja/ | 00:26 |
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| Daisy | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/manuals.yaml | 00:28 |
| Daisy | See the end of this file: manuals.yaml | 00:28 |
| Daisy | - job: | 00:28 |
| Daisy | name: openstack-operations-guide-ja | 00:28 |
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| gabrielcw | yes | 00:29 |
| Daisy | We should have similar ones: installation-guide-pt-br, installation-guide-zh-cn | 00:29 |
| gabrielcw | understood | 00:30 |
| Daisy | but at first, we need to have openstack-operations-guide-ja running well. :) | 00:30 |
| gabrielcw | oh, what's wrong? | 00:30 |
| Daisy | I don't know yet, actually. | 00:30 |
| Daisy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1216153 | 00:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1216153 in openstack-i18n "ops guide japanese build fails" [High,Confirmed] | 00:31 |
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| Daisy | There is a bug to track it. | 00:32 |
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| gabrielcw | oh | 00:33 |
| gabrielcw | that's seems a large change | 00:33 |
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| gabrielcw | moving repos around | 00:33 |
| Daisy | I'm going to have a chat with Tom Fifield about it. He can help me to catch the current status. | 00:34 |
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| gabrielcw | nice | 00:34 |
| Daisy | I don't think it's a big problem. But it's a problem that many projects and many people evolved. That's reason why it is complex. | 00:35 |
| gabrielcw | meanwhile I will tinker with the manuals.yaml | 00:35 |
| Daisy | nice. | 00:35 |
| gabrielcw | yes, that`s what I think too | 00:35 |
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| Daisy | thank you, gabrielcw. | 00:36 |
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| Daisy | If we don't have topics, I'm going to close the meeting. | 00:36 |
| ujuc | yes :) | 00:36 |
| gabrielcw | ok! | 00:37 |
| Daisy | I leave 20 minutes to us. You can go back to your work. I can drive to office then. | 00:38 |
| Daisy | :) | 00:38 |
| Daisy | So see you next meeting. | 00:38 |
| Daisy | Thank you. | 00:38 |
| Daisy | Let's keep contact through email. | 00:38 |
| gabrielcw | thanks | 00:38 |
| Daisy | #endmeeting | 00:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 00:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 16 00:38:40 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-01-16-00.00.html | 00:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-01-16-00.00.txt | 00:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-01-16-00.00.log.html | 00:38 |
| ujuc | :) | 00:38 |
| ujuc | Thanks :) | 00:38 |
| epico | thanks | 00:39 |
| gabrielcw | i'm leaving, goodbye! | 00:39 |
| Daisy | epico: thank you. | 00:39 |
| Daisy | Have a nice sleep, gabrielcw . | 00:39 |
| Daisy | bye | 00:39 |
| gabrielcw | thanks :) | 00:39 |
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| enikanorov_ | neutron lbaas meeting in 3 minutes | 13:57 |
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| enikanorov_ | #startmeeting neutron lbaas | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 16 14:00:29 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is enikanorov_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_lbaas' | 14:00 |
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| enikanorov_ | hi | 14:00 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy! | 14:00 |
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| enikanorov_ | who's online for lbaas meeting? | 14:01 |
| enikanorov_ | hi s3wong | 14:01 |
| * sbalukoff will be lurking | 14:01 | |
| s3wong | enikanorov: Hello | 14:01 |
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| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: hi | 14:01 |
| enikanorov_ | avishayb: hi | 14:01 |
| avishayb | hi | 14:02 |
| enikanorov_ | #topic announcements | 14:02 |
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| markmcclain | enikanorov_: hi | 14:02 |
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| enikanorov_ | not so much to announce this week, actually | 14:02 |
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| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: we'll need you to discuss ssl extension proposal | 14:02 |
| markmcclain | ok | 14:02 |
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| samuelbercovici | hi all | 14:03 |
| enikanorov_ | so on announcements, we still expecting basic lbaas scenario test to get merged | 14:03 |
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| enikanorov_ | ithe test is ready, we are currently making sure it runs stable | 14:04 |
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| enikanorov_ | after that i'm going to ping temepest cores until we merge it | 14:04 |
| enikanorov_ | hi Sam | 14:04 |
| samuelbercovici | enikanorov_: what is basic lbaas scenario? how is it different than the existing lbaas tests? | 14:04 |
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| enikanorov_ | samuelbercovici: basic scenario is end-to-end test in tempest | 14:05 |
| samuelbercovici | aren't there already tests in tempest for lbaas? | 14:05 |
| enikanorov_ | it merely starting vm instance, starting web services on it, configurin loadbalancer, adding those members and checking that it all works accessing them with floating ip | 14:05 |
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| enikanorov_ | samuelbercovici: those are API tests, they mainly test neutron server responses | 14:06 |
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| enikanorov_ | and they don't care about if it all works behind the scenes | 14:06 |
| enikanorov_ | our basic scenario represents real-life usage more or less | 14:06 |
| samuelbercovici | so in addition to the existing lbaas tempest etsts, this one adds passing traffic? | 14:07 |
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| enikanorov_ | right. and the results can depend on the provider that is used for lbaas (can, but should not) | 14:08 |
| samuelbercovici | ok. | 14:08 |
| samuelbercovici | please point to the tests so we can try and run it localy | 14:08 |
| enikanorov_ | sure: | 14:08 |
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| enikanorov_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58697 | 14:09 |
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| enikanorov_ | #topic third-party testing | 14:09 |
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| enikanorov_ | that was discussed a number of times in ML, and it looks like we already have a few systems set up properly | 14:10 |
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| enikanorov_ | but i'm not sure we have such for lbaas | 14:10 |
| enikanorov_ | samuelbercovici: any progress from your side on this? | 14:10 |
| avishayb | we are (more or less) in the last mile with 3rd party testing.. | 14:10 |
| Vijay | Eugene: As you might be already aware, NetScaler CI is LIVE now | 14:11 |
| enikanorov_ | cool. one of the important requirements is that you provide a way to check logs | 14:11 |
| avishayb | however - we did some code fix in order to run it against Radware env, | 14:11 |
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| avishayb | I meab in the temest test code. | 14:11 |
| enikanorov_ | Vijay: great | 14:11 |
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| avishayb | *mean | 14:11 |
| enikanorov_ | avishayb: what kind of fix? | 14:11 |
| Vijay | In Addition, we were able to run the scenario test 58697 with ML2 + VLAN and NetScaler providing LBaaS | 14:12 |
| enikanorov_ | it doesn't seem right. you may change devstack configuration, but tempest should be trunk | 14:12 |
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| enikanorov_ | Vijay: super! i'd be interested in knowing detail about configuration | 14:12 |
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| enikanorov_ | Vijay: could you write me a short notice about how did you configured whole env? | 14:13 |
| avishayb | One of the method (not sure about the name) calls the API but does not wait until the entity that was created is ACTIVE. | 14:13 |
| Vijay | sure | 14:13 |
| enikanorov_ | avishayb: then it looks like tempest bug - please file it and propose a fix | 14:13 |
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| avishayb | so the test goes on while the entity is PENDING_CREATE. I will gather the details. | 14:14 |
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| enikanorov_ | i see. also, it might be ok for API test | 14:14 |
| samuelbercovici | to add on avishayb we want to make sure all tsts pass localy and that we pinned all issues . | 14:14 |
| enikanorov_ | so it yet unclear, should it be fixed, or the driver needs to be fixed | 14:14 |
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| samuelbercovici | the next step will be to open bugs on the tempets tests and post the fixes | 14:15 |
| enikanorov_ | ok | 14:15 |
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| enikanorov_ | any questions on 3rd party testing? | 14:15 |
| samuelbercovici | enikanorov_: this should be a fix of the tempest tests | 14:15 |
| enikanorov_ | samuelbercovici: that's possible | 14:16 |
| avishayb | enikanorov_: is there a cetral place where we can store the logs and have a public URL for them? | 14:16 |
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| samuelbercovici | we should revert to being a voting CI until we get this fixed, otherwise we will fail tests for nothing | 14:16 |
| avishayb | *central | 14:16 |
| enikanorov_ | avishayb: i don't know, honestly | 14:16 |
| Vijay | mark: You had marked the NetScaler driver commit on hold till External Testing System is ready. | 14:17 |
| Vijay | Now it is up. | 14:17 |
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| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: do you think you can remove -2 from netscaler driver patch since their CI is up? | 14:17 |
| samuelbercovici | btw - is there going to be review on what the CI system do for testing? | 14:17 |
| Vijay | link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57524/ | 14:18 |
| enikanorov_ | samuelbercovici: i think publicly available logs are the good representation of what CI is doing | 14:18 |
| samuelbercovici | enikanorov_: correct. so are public logs mandatory to approve a CI? | 14:19 |
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| enikanorov_ | yes, this is a requirement. afaik currently new CIs are not given a right to vote in gerrit until infra folks approve it | 14:19 |
| markmcclain | Vijay: ideally I'd like to see a few more votes from the system before merging | 14:20 |
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| enikanorov_ | removing -2 is not giving +2! :) | 14:20 |
| enikanorov_ | but it gives the feeling that patch is not hopeless | 14:21 |
| enikanorov_ | ok, let's move to the next item | 14:22 |
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| enikanorov_ | #topic ssl extension | 14:22 |
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| enikanorov_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63510/ | 14:23 |
| enikanorov_ | the patch itself is in a good shape i would say | 14:23 |
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| enikanorov_ | although we had some confusion on choosing the best implementation approach | 14:23 |
| enikanorov_ | should it be a separate db-plugin | 14:23 |
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| enikanorov_ | or a part of lbaas plugin, e.g. mixin | 14:23 |
| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: hi | 14:24 |
| evgenyf | Yes, I need a review | 14:24 |
| evgenyf | Currently it's undependent extension | 14:24 |
| evgenyf | Not part of the LbaaS plugin | 14:24 |
| evgenyf | I'm working on unit tests implementation for extension | 14:25 |
| enikanorov_ | I have 2 concerns here, one is that this extension is specific to one provider, another one is that we might not be able to implement it for haproxy | 14:25 |
| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: i guess you have something to say on this matter | 14:25 |
| samuelbercovici | to add some context on the decision to implement as an extension and not on LBaaS. | 14:26 |
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| markmcclain | yeah…we can't put ssl as a common ext because haproxy does not support it | 14:26 |
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| markmcclain | hopefully haproxy will finally decide to release instead of carrying a dev branch for 2 yrs | 14:27 |
| samuelbercovici | Discussion with markmcclain have pointed to several chalenges in implementing it immediately in ha proxy | 14:27 |
| samuelbercovici | 1. ha proxy 1.5 is not ga yet, obvisously this can still be implemented with ha proxy 1.4 + stunnel | 14:27 |
| s3wong | haproxy 1.5 is quite ambitious - so it may take some time for all the features to be ready to make it a stable release | 14:28 |
| samuelbercovici | 2. the communication channel of the AMQP is currently not secured and it would not be proper to push certificates to HA proxy via unsecured channel | 14:28 |
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| enikanorov_ | yes, this is understood | 14:28 |
| enikanorov_ | the question would be about how we do it. ssl is desired feature | 14:29 |
| evgenyf | The extension is not limited to provider, technically, but provider which does not implement the ssl API will get "UnsupportedExtensionException" | 14:29 |
| enikanorov_ | but putting it as a common extension is a bit misleading right now | 14:29 |
| markmcclain | I agree that ssl is desires | 14:29 |
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| markmcclain | stunnel+1.4 could be a viable alternative path | 14:29 |
| samuelbercovici | 3. markmclain did not approve of storing the private key in the database. ideally this should wait for babican | 14:30 |
| markmcclain | which then means we've got to solve the 2nd side of the equation | 14:30 |
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| enikanorov_ | ok, the alternative approach could be: | 14:30 |
| enikanorov_ | 1) introduce vendor extension framework | 14:30 |
| markmcclain | how to transmit and store cert | 14:30 |
| enikanorov_ | 2) put ssl ext under /radware | 14:30 |
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| samuelbercovici | all of this lead us to approach this as an extension so we can have the API as "experimental" | 14:31 |
| samuelbercovici | the extension by itself was discussed with community and it should be possible to be used by any vendor | 14:31 |
| enikanorov_ | samuelbercovici: yes, but as i understand that it is a general policy | 14:32 |
| samuelbercovici | the implementation will try to check if this is supported by a driver and if so will call the driver | 14:32 |
| enikanorov_ | to publish the API when it has an opensource backend impl | 14:32 |
| samuelbercovici | well, if you look at the many extension that NVP has some of them do not have opensource extension | 14:32 |
| markmcclain | if stunnel+1.4 proves viable then I'd consider making an experimental community ext | 14:32 |
| samuelbercovici | when we get this implemented with AH proxy, than we can decide to move it as part of the LBaaS api and not an extension | 14:33 |
| markmcclain | but we'd have to release with the caveat that cert mgt likely needs lots of auditing | 14:33 |
| enikanorov_ | yes | 14:33 |
| enikanorov_ | samuelbercovici: to me whole question is how this extension is presented | 14:34 |
| enikanorov_ | and how it is configured | 14:34 |
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| markmcclain | how much interaction have the people here had with the barbican team? | 14:34 |
| enikanorov_ | if it is a vendor extension, that solves pretty much all of the issues | 14:34 |
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| markmcclain | enikanorov_: kind of | 14:34 |
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| markmcclain | CVEs can still be created for vendor extensions | 14:35 |
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| markmcclain | so we don't want to knowingly release something insecure | 14:35 |
| enikanorov_ | i'd like to know more about policies around that | 14:35 |
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| markmcclain | enikanorov_: policies on CVEs or releasing insecure code? | 14:35 |
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| samuelbercovici | pardon for ignorance, what is CVEs? | 14:36 |
| enikanorov_ | yes, so we have vendor stuff and opensource stuff | 14:36 |
| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: and following your words, it looks like responsibility is the same and lays on the team maintaining the project | 14:36 |
| markmcclain | samuelbercovici: see http://cve.mitre.org | 14:37 |
| markmcclain | it does but when there is code in the master neutron tree (even vendor plugins) | 14:37 |
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| markmcclain | the CVE burden is shared by the members of the OpenStack security, neutron security, and release management teams | 14:38 |
| enikanorov_ | in other words, we need to care of vendor code as about other | 14:38 |
| markmcclain | correct… I'll be leaning on the vendors to fix their code | 14:38 |
| markmcclain | but releasing and managing that fix requires many folks | 14:39 |
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| enikanorov_ | i see. i know samuelbercovici doesn't like to depend on other work/patches, but then I'd propose to introduce ssl as vendor extension. I think it will not require major change in already written code. | 14:40 |
| enikanorov_ | I mean, to integrate it via vendor extension framework | 14:40 |
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| evgenyf | enikanorov_: What you mean by "vendor extension framework"? | 14:41 |
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| enikanorov_ | evgenyf: that was the proposal to add another way extension are loaded. for instance, instead of plugin declaring extension aliases that it supports, it also could ask drivers what extensions they support | 14:42 |
| enikanorov_ | and it exports extension itself, and not the alias | 14:43 |
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| enikanorov_ | so your driver can directly inject new resources into API layer | 14:43 |
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| enikanorov_ | and it will be visible only when your driver is configured | 14:43 |
| evgenyf | I c. Is there any info about this proposal? | 14:43 |
| samuelbercovici | enikanorov_: do u have this already implemented? | 14:44 |
| enikanorov_ | I was implementing it behind the scenes but that items had low priority in my list. now i think i'll move it up, so expect me to post the code at the end of the next week | 14:45 |
| samuelbercovici | markmcclain: 10x (about CVEs) | 14:45 |
| enikanorov_ | evgenyf: there is a blueprint on this | 14:45 |
| enikanorov_ | let me find the link | 14:46 |
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| samuelbercovici | enikanorov_: as u already know me ;-) lets work in paralel. we can always fix this | 14:47 |
| samuelbercovici | when urs is ready | 14:47 |
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| enikanorov_ | i agree | 14:47 |
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| samuelbercovici | to return back to the question for markmcclain, is the approach (extension) is acceptable? | 14:48 |
| enikanorov_ | evgenyf: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-extensions | 14:48 |
| evgenyf | enikanorov_: Thanks | 14:48 |
| enikanorov_ | evgenyf: apparently it doesn't have much description | 14:48 |
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| enikanorov_ | evgenyf: lets discuss it offline. anyway the idea was to be able to write extensions in the regular way, so I expect your code mostly unaffected | 14:49 |
| samuelbercovici | markmcclain: (to use the proper irc syntax). is the approach to introduce SSL temination as an extension, declare as experimantal and when we finished "grilling" it and having a complete opensource solution, move it as part of the API? | 14:51 |
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| evgenyf | enikanorov_: Ok | 14:51 |
| enikanorov_ | ok, lets move to l7 rules meanwhile | 14:53 |
| enikanorov_ | #topic l7 rules | 14:53 |
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| enikanorov_ | avishayb: hi | 14:53 |
| avishayb | hi | 14:53 |
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| avishayb | my current work is here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61721/12 | 14:53 |
| avishayb | mainly the DB layer plus some REST | 14:54 |
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| markmcclain | enikanorov_: sorry… pulled into discussion… I'm still a little unsure of having drivers add resource extensions | 14:54 |
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| markmcclain | mainly because that creates an uneven API experience | 14:54 |
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| enikanorov_ | in that case we're stuck | 14:55 |
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| enikanorov_ | :) | 14:55 |
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| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: what would be the way to add ssl extension in J then? | 14:57 |
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| enikanorov_ | we have 2 minutes left | 14:58 |
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| markmcclain | enikanorov_: hopefully haproxy will be available then | 14:59 |
| markmcclain | and we can just make it core | 14:59 |
| samuelbercovici | but untill then.... | 14:59 |
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| enikanorov_ | so will you propose to implement correspoding code for haproxy meanwhile? | 15:00 |
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| samuelbercovici | also, as said, this can be done with stunnel + 1.4 | 15:00 |
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| enikanorov_ | ok. we need to wrap up, we can continue discussion on neutron channel | 15:00 |
| enikanorov_ | thanks everyone for joining | 15:00 |
| enikanorov_ | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| markmcclain | I'd be interested to see what the stunnel solution looks like | 15:00 |
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| ttx | anyone here for the storyboard meeting ? | 16:03 |
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| ruhe_away | o/ | 16:04 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | o/ | 16:05 |
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| ttx | let's see if anyone else joins | 16:05 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | I'm partially here, should prepare slides for ptl webinar | 16:05 |
| krotscheck | o/ | 16:05 |
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| ttx | ok, let's get started | 16:06 |
| ttx | #startmeeting storyboard | 16:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 16 16:06:22 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:06 |
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| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard | 16:06 |
| ttx | Agenda is pretty empty, feel free to add to it | 16:06 |
| ttx | #topic Storyboard sprint | 16:07 |
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| ttx | Details have been published at: | 16:07 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard/Brussels_Sprint | 16:07 |
| ttx | Russian folks: how are the visas coming along ? | 16:07 |
| ruhe | still in progress, but things seem to be ok there | 16:08 |
| ttx | Please add your arrival/departure times on the "Attendees" section of that wikipage | 16:08 |
| ruhe | ttx: ok | 16:08 |
| ttx | will help plan any extra-curricular activities | 16:08 |
| ttx | krotscheck: there will be coffee. | 16:08 |
| krotscheck | ttx: Thank goodness. | 16:08 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx - I spoke with Cody a little bit about whipping up a super basic agenda for both days. | 16:09 |
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| gothicmindfood | I have that on my to-dos for today | 16:09 |
| ttx | krotscheck: nespresso crap, but at least it's espressos | 16:09 |
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| ttx | gothicmindfood: sounds good | 16:09 |
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| gothicmindfood | I'll probably just start with "here are, realistically, the hours we can work, and the basic themes we need to cover in those hours" | 16:10 |
| ttx | gothicmindfood: do the workgroups I put in the wiki make sense ? | 16:10 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: I think so, but I also believe we're just in one room, right? | 16:10 |
| ttx | gothicmindfood: we can start with a basic intro to the root of the project and introduce everyone and then fly | 16:10 |
| ruhe | ttx: i've added myself to the CI/CD group. i hope it's ok because i'm working on Puppet scripts for installation of Storyboard | 16:10 |
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| ttx | gothicmindfood: it's more a way to organize within the room than /separate/ workgroups | 16:11 |
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| gothicmindfood | ttx: understood | 16:11 |
| ttx | also to try to predict who is interested by what | 16:11 |
| krotscheck | It's not like we can't reshuffle when we're there. Chances are some teams will have less to do than others. | 16:12 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: I think some things will lead into others (a basic product plan/model, for example, needs input from everyone, and will lead to Code and Infra work prioritizations for the sprint) | 16:12 |
| ttx | gothicmindfood: agreed. It's more general themes and the people who we expect to drive each | 16:12 |
| gothicmindfood | ok cool - definitely understood. :) | 16:13 |
| ttx | any question on that sprint ? Everyone booked hotels already ? | 16:13 |
| ruhe | russian folks booked hotels | 16:13 |
| gothicmindfood | I believe everyone in HP is booked, but I'm not 100% on mordred | 16:14 |
| ttx | ok then, no question, let's move on | 16:14 |
| mordred | what did I do? | 16:14 |
| ttx | gothicmindfood: he is having problems finding a decent Starwood option, I guess | 16:14 |
| mordred | oh - no, I'm booked | 16:15 |
| gothicmindfood | oh godo! | 16:15 |
| mordred | I'm not staying where you are - but whatevs | 16:15 |
| gothicmindfood | good! | 16:15 |
| gothicmindfood | mordred - you aren't at the 4 points? | 16:15 |
| mordred | nope | 16:15 |
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| ttx | The 4 points is.. not so great. been there last year | 16:15 |
| krotscheck | gothicmindfood: He's probably at the luxury collection downtown ;) | 16:15 |
| ttx | brussels has a decent selection of nice "boutique" hotels that are not more expensive :) | 16:16 |
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| ttx | anyway, moving on | 16:16 |
| ttx | #topic storyboard-webclient current state | 16:16 |
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| ttx | This was added by me, trying to catch up on you all | 16:17 |
| ttx | since you run so fast | 16:17 |
| krotscheck | Righto, so the webclient build went into infra yesterday | 16:17 |
| ttx | could anyone explain where we currently are, and how to test that state (if possible) ? | 16:17 |
| ttx | krotscheck: ok | 16:17 |
| krotscheck | And after a minor hiccup (some of the test results weren't being uploaded) that all seems to be working now. | 16:17 |
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| * ttx is already missing ./manager.py runserver | 16:17 | |
| ttx | manage* | 16:17 |
| krotscheck | The build takes a bit, because infra's making us recompile node from scratch every time. | 16:17 |
| krotscheck | Next steps: | 16:18 |
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| krotscheck | 1- Get the storyboard API spun up so we can do real integration/functional tests. | 16:18 |
| krotscheck | (rather than mocking it) | 16:18 |
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| krotscheck | 2- Get the whole shebang onto a server. ruhe's currently working on that. | 16:19 |
| ttx | so the webclient is currently diplaying mocked data ? How feature-y is it compared to the Django poc ? | 16:19 |
| krotscheck | ttx: Well, the copy that's up there matches the UI. | 16:19 |
| ttx | (I should test that but all those new words (grunt) scare me | 16:19 |
| ttx | ) | 16:19 |
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| krotscheck | I'm currently working on mocking all the data bits, ETA sometime... todayish? | 16:20 |
| ttx | krotscheck: is there some "how to test" instructions that end up mostly usable on a Linux distro (ubuntu/debian) ? | 16:20 |
| krotscheck | (note: Mocks in angular intercept at the request level, so once we have an API we can rip that out and it _should_ work magically) | 16:20 |
| krotscheck | ttx:... like "how do you run it?" | 16:21 |
| ttx | (one never knows, I might have some time to play tomorrow) | 16:21 |
| ttx | krotscheck: yes, run from code | 16:21 |
| mordred | ttx: the grunt stuff is actually quite nice | 16:21 |
| mordred | once you step through it the first time and get past the fear | 16:21 |
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| ttx | mordred: i don't doubt it. I'm just being realistic on my ability to free up time this week | 16:21 |
| mordred | in fact, it makes it all feel very much like normal dev instead of scary web things | 16:21 |
| krotscheck | ttx: There's some instructions in the readme, I can elabroate on those. | 16:21 |
| mordred | ttx: like, with unittests and stuff | 16:22 |
| ttx | krotscheck: taht would be nice, but if I'm the only one behind I could also take the high road | 16:22 |
| mordred | ttx: I was able to run grunt things on basically the first try by following the instructions - and I enjoyed the experience | 16:22 |
| ttx | mordred: ok, I'll try that | 16:22 |
| krotscheck | ttx: Take a look at bin/bootstrap.sh | 16:22 |
| krotscheck | That's a script that'll install everything into a locally configured path | 16:23 |
| krotscheck | You can adjust that script to do sudo thing | 16:23 |
| krotscheck | *things | 16:23 |
| ttx | krotscheck: don't lose time on me. If mordred could run JS things, so could I. | 16:23 |
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| ttx | (previous sentence not true for C++) | 16:23 |
| mordred | ttx: they've even got pep8 like things and stuff! | 16:23 |
| ttx | mordred: who could have expected that | 16:24 |
| mordred | I know, right? | 16:24 |
| ttx | I mean, everyone knows Python is the only language with decent... wait | 16:24 |
| mordred | hahahahahaha | 16:24 |
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| ttx | krotscheck: is the UI a completely new thing ? Or based on the Bootstrap POC ? | 16:25 |
| ttx | krotscheck: FWIW my preference for semantic-UI is based on the cleaner aspect of the syntax, and the fact that it doesn't look like the 1000s of sites using bootstrap. | 16:26 |
| krotscheck | Right, so next step is "Let's get a server" | 16:26 |
| krotscheck | (Might be a good new agenda item) | 16:26 |
| ttx | so it's a bit of a hipster thing | 16:26 |
| ttx | cody-somerville has much stronger and reasonable reasons | 16:26 |
| krotscheck | ttx: It's almost a verbatim copy fo the PoC | 16:26 |
| krotscheck | There are some kittens | 16:26 |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck: no unicorns?!? | 16:26 |
| krotscheck | ttx: I did want to take the time to see how semantic UI stacks up by doing a full replacement. | 16:27 |
| ttx | I'm ok to defer decision to the people who will end up writing the most code. My preference being purely aesthetic | 16:27 |
| krotscheck | ttx: I also don't like the "Everyone's using the same UI" thing, but thankfully all the colors/variables are injectable. | 16:27 |
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| krotscheck | ttx: Though that is true for all the layout frameworks out there. | 16:28 |
| ttx | krotscheck: did you look up semantic-ui yet ? any reason for not loving it ? | 16:28 |
| mordred | ttx: also, fwiw, have spoken with david-lyle recently and horizon is also interested in moving a bit more in a direction similar to this stuff from krotscheck - so we may actually wind up staying somewhat in alignment | 16:28 |
| * krotscheck is personally not a big fan of how much padding they use. | 16:28 | |
| ttx | krotscheck: the fact that it's not bootstrap, so not so much used ? | 16:28 |
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| krotscheck | ttx: I have two not-very-good-reasons for preferring bootstrap. | 16:29 |
| krotscheck | First: I know it. | 16:29 |
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| ttx | krotscheck: anyway, I think that's a great topic to finally sort out at the sprint | 16:29 |
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| krotscheck | Second: Semantic UI's markup actually makes assumptions about how you want your UI to look on different browser sizes, instead of giving you direct control. | 16:29 |
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| ttx | and then have everyone aligned | 16:29 |
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| krotscheck | ttx: I agree. | 16:29 |
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| krotscheck | ttx: And that gives me a deadline. | 16:29 |
| ttx | yeah, I think things are aligning well, timing-wise | 16:30 |
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| ttx | #topic "Let's get a server" | 16:31 |
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| ttx | krotscheck: I'll let you introduce topic | 16:31 |
| krotscheck | Having said that: Both bootstrap and semantic live in the world of "We don't want to bother with doing too much UI work". If we're going to get super custom on the UI we might want skeleton | 16:31 |
| krotscheck | Ok | 16:31 |
| krotscheck | So, the basic pieces of the project are this: | 16:31 |
| krotscheck | 1- A Javascript webclient that can be served statically and will (once we get our first gate) live in a tarball on tarballs.o.o | 16:32 |
| ttx | gothicmindfood: could you draft your sprint agenda on the wiki ? And include "final discussion/decision on bootstrap vs. semantic-ui" in there ? | 16:32 |
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| krotscheck | 2- A wsgi enabled set of API's hosted by apache | 16:33 |
| krotscheck | (via mod_wsgi) | 16:33 |
| krotscheck | 3- A database. | 16:33 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: certainly! | 16:33 |
| mordred | I agree with those | 16:33 |
| krotscheck | The caveat on 2 is that right now there's still django, but there won't be for long. | 16:33 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | krotscheck, there is a change by ruhe removing it afaik | 16:34 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | let me find a link | 16:34 |
| krotscheck | THere's an additional assumption that we're going to put this on storyboard-dev.o.o and storyboard.o.o | 16:34 |
| ruhe | i moved it to WIP until we get something working with new REST API | 16:34 |
| ruhe | i guess all these bits (webclient, mod_wsgi and DB) are covered with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65017 | 16:34 |
| krotscheck | Now ruhe's done a bunch of work to get the server/pecan stuff set up. | 16:34 |
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| ttx | mordred: about urls: did we say stories vs. storyboard ? | 16:35 |
| krotscheck | (plus all the other holy-shit-productive things he's done) | 16:35 |
| mordred | I think we said stories - with cnames for bugs, blueprints and issues :) | 16:35 |
| ruhe | i discuss with fungi and he said that it's not a problem to spin up a server | 16:35 |
| ruhe | err, * i discussed this with * | 16:35 |
| ttx | mordred: that said, the storyboard name is both a codename and a function. And it looks better | 16:35 |
| mordred | I'm fine with any of it | 16:36 |
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| fungi | yes, i can try to apply the puppet change in a dev environment to spin up a server | 16:36 |
| ruhe | fungi: i'll setup a repo on github which will be installable by these scripts | 16:37 |
| ruhe | because some required bits are still on review | 16:37 |
| krotscheck | Ok, in the meantime, ttx - can you look at the patch on webclient and get it through? That'll generate a real live tarball for them to work with. | 16:37 |
| ttx | krotscheck: link | 16:38 |
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| krotscheck | ttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66911/ | 16:38 |
| * ttx thinks krotscheck should have +2, at the very least on the webclient part | 16:38 | |
| mordred | ++ | 16:38 |
| * mordred will get that done | 16:38 | |
| krotscheck | Woo, I feel all official and stuff | 16:39 |
| ttx | I mean, we are way past my Django skills here | 16:39 |
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| krotscheck | ttx: Well, hopefully looking at that patch will show you how easy and awesome and wonderful functional testing in javascript is :) | 16:39 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: you are now in storyboard-core - I'm not going to bother splitting it in to two core teams right now | 16:39 |
| ttx | mordred: you can second+2/aprv https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66911/ | 16:40 |
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| krotscheck | Any other comments on getting a server? | 16:42 |
| krotscheck | mordred: Thanks | 16:42 |
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| krotscheck | I'll keep my dirty fingers off the python | 16:42 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: nope. we'll get that and a db spun up | 16:43 |
| mordred | we'll use a trove db for the database, which is already how ruhe has organized the puppet | 16:44 |
| mordred | do we need storyboard-dev/ | 16:44 |
| mordred | ? | 16:44 |
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| mordred | I believe the intent was that we'd just run pure CD, no? | 16:44 |
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| mordred | (kinda like we do with zuul and nodepool and friends) | 16:44 |
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| krotscheck | Open discussion? | 16:45 |
| ruhe | the only problem we might hit with pure CD is a broken DB schema. it'll require manual reset of DB and migration | 16:46 |
| mordred | shouldn't we hit that in gating tests though? | 16:46 |
| mordred | krotscheck: auth discussion/ | 16:46 |
| mordred | ? | 16:46 |
| ruhe | we should, but things happen :) | 16:46 |
| krotscheck | mordred: Good point | 16:47 |
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| krotscheck | Hrm. Not that laggy | 16:48 |
| krotscheck | So re: Auth | 16:48 |
| krotscheck | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/M6G4iKRZZX | 16:48 |
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| ttx | oops sorry | 16:50 |
| ttx | #topic Open Discussion | 16:50 |
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| ruhe | krotscheck: sorry, haven't yet a chance to go through your doc; neither i have any experience in this area | 16:50 |
| krotscheck | Given that at some point we'll need auth via SSH/Login/OpenID, mordred and ruhe proposed that we make our auth system pluggable | 16:50 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | does that mean there should be a plugin mechanizm on a rest side? | 16:51 |
| ttx | why SSH/Login ? | 16:51 |
| krotscheck | Since all we really need the plugability for is figuring out who we are, I proposed that we separate the ideas of "authentication" (who are you) and "authorization" (what can you do) | 16:51 |
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| krotscheck | ttx: SSH Pub Key | 16:52 |
| krotscheck | Login for... beats me, actually | 16:52 |
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| mordred | I'm not 100% sold that we'll need ssh - I think if we have oauth for api access that should be fine | 16:52 |
| ttx | right, was just trying to understand the use case | 16:52 |
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| krotscheck | Ok, so use case: CLI client. OAuth will work? | 16:52 |
| mordred | I was mainly bringing up that I know of a deployment that's going to want to hook up user accoutns to ldap | 16:52 |
| ttx | oauth sounds enough for auth.*ing between apps | 16:52 |
| krotscheck | mordred: Righto, well, as long as we make authentication pluggable, they can build their own adapter. | 16:52 |
| mordred | yah. launchpadlib uses oauth | 16:53 |
| ttx | I'm fine with it as long as the indirection is not costing us too much | 16:53 |
| ttx | i suspect it doesn't | 16:53 |
| mordred | I think the only thing _we_ need to care about is openid for web and oauth for api | 16:53 |
| krotscheck | NikitaKonovalov: Plugin mechanisms sound complicated.... | 16:53 |
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| krotscheck | At the end of the whole auth process, each user (CLI or LDAP or Web) Will have an OAuth2 token with which they authorize. | 16:54 |
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| mordred | any idea, with an external openid source, how we disable users? | 16:54 |
| mordred | (from their oauth stuff) | 16:55 |
| krotscheck | mordred: managing users should be internal to storyboard, no? | 16:55 |
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| * mordred headsmacks | 16:55 | |
| mordred | thanks | 16:55 |
| krotscheck | In the end we still have to keep track of user records anyway, so adding an admin blacklist flag... | 16:55 |
| ttx | ok, anything else ? | 16:56 |
| krotscheck | There are some implementation detail questions we can talk about - how long does the token expire, do we allow refreshes, etc... | 16:56 |
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| krotscheck | but that's details. | 16:56 |
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| ttx | oh. Any vegetarian/vegan in the sprint group ? | 16:56 |
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| ttx | because you know... Brussels. | 16:56 |
| krotscheck | ttx: Might want to ask about celiacs, too. Because, you know, Brussles :) | 16:57 |
| krotscheck | (not me) | 16:57 |
| ttx | same category as Paris in veggie-friendliness | 16:57 |
| ttx | ok. | 16:58 |
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| ttx | last minute thoughts ? | 16:58 |
| ttx | Oh. i'll miss next week meeting | 16:58 |
| ttx | I shall be snowboarding somewhere if evrything goes according to plan | 16:58 |
| ttx | alrighty | 16:59 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 16 16:59:17 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-01-16-16.06.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-01-16-16.06.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-01-16-16.06.log.html | 16:59 |
| krotscheck | ttx: Nice! Chamonix? | 16:59 |
| ttx | krotscheck: heh, no. Utah. | 16:59 |
| krotscheck | ttx: Nice :) | 17:00 |
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| dkranz | #startmeeting qa | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 16 17:03:48 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkranz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:03 |
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| mkoderer | aha dkranz you run the meeting | 17:04 |
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| dkranz | Yes, Matt wasn't sure he could make it. | 17:04 |
| dkranz | So who is here today? | 17:04 |
| malini | o/ | 17:04 |
| mkoderer | o/ | 17:05 |
| giulivo | me too | 17:05 |
| andreaf | Hi I'm here but I may have to leave soon | 17:05 |
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| agordeev1 | o/ | 17:05 |
| dkranz | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting | 17:05 |
| dkranz | Agenda | 17:05 |
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| dkranz | So blueprints is first | 17:06 |
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| dkranz | andreaf: Since you need to leave, is there anything specific from you? | 17:06 |
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| dkranz | ok, next up is negative tests | 17:07 |
| giulivo | dkranz, on the blueprints, to avoid them growing again out of control, I propose everyone to approve those which have been already discussed | 17:07 |
| dkranz | mkoderer: Do you want to give an update? | 17:07 |
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| mkoderer | dkranz: yes y not | 17:08 |
| dkranz | giulivo: ok | 17:08 |
| dkranz | giulivo: I think sdague would say we just want to approve those that will actually be worked on now. | 17:08 |
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| mkoderer | the first patch for the negative test blueprint will be ready for review tomorrow | 17:09 |
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| mkoderer | IMHO we have all the necessary features in there | 17:09 |
| dkranz | mkoderer: I agree | 17:09 |
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| dkranz | mkoderer: We don't want feature creep before the first real submission | 17:09 |
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| dkranz | mkoderer: I think it strikes the right balance now | 17:10 |
| dkranz | So we can send an email to the qa list when it is ready | 17:10 |
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| mkoderer | ok let's do it that way | 17:10 |
| dkranz | Any comments about negative test strategy? | 17:10 |
| afazekas | positive nagetive tests? :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65626/1/tempest/api/compute/admin/test_flavors.py | 17:11 |
| mkoderer | positive negative test? what? ;) | 17:11 |
| dkranz | afazekas: I'm missing something that you meant by pointing to that review ? | 17:12 |
| afazekas | I saw sever patches which uses different type than we normally use. | 17:12 |
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| dkranz | afazekas: I think that is testing that both int and string work as flavors | 17:12 |
| afazekas | Lot of new test case can be created If we really want to test thease int string things | 17:12 |
| dkranz | afazekas: Let's not then. | 17:13 |
| mkoderer | I mean the framework the we build could be used for positive tests as well.. | 17:13 |
| dkranz | mkoderer: Yes, but only a limited kind | 17:14 |
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| dkranz | But I don't think we should go there right now. | 17:14 |
| dkranz | Anything else on negative? | 17:14 |
| mkoderer | dkranz: that right.. and for me this is something that we can do later | 17:14 |
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| mkoderer | no not from me | 17:14 |
| dkranz | rahmu: Config verification status/discussion | 17:15 |
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| dkranz | rahmu: We may need to push this til next week because mtreinish is not here. Or is this a different issue? | 17:15 |
| dkranz | rahmu: You there? | 17:16 |
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| dkranz | rahmu also has the "six" issue so I guess we need to wait for him (her?) | 17:17 |
| dkranz | #topic Critical / High bug review | 17:17 |
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| dkranz | Any bugs we need to deal with? | 17:17 |
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| dkranz | We are back to 20 or so New bugs | 17:18 |
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| dkranz | malini: marconi? | 17:19 |
| malini | sure | 17:19 |
| dkranz | #topic marconi testing | 17:19 |
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| malini | Just to give everybody some background, Marconi (a.k.a Queueing) is currently in incubation & we are steadily moving towards completing our graduation requirements. | 17:19 |
| malini | I am working on adding Tempest tests & have some patches already | 17:20 |
| malini | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/add-basic-marconi-tests,n,z | 17:20 |
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| malini | I would like some reviews on these | 17:20 |
| dkranz | afazekas: You gave a +1 to the tempest patch | 17:20 |
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| malini | & Also feedback on stuff that we need to get done to graduate | 17:20 |
| malini | yess..Thanks afazekas again :) | 17:20 |
| mkoderer | malini: I can have look, could you simply add me to the reviewers list? | 17:21 |
| malini | sure ! | 17:21 |
| mkoderer | easier for me to find them | 17:21 |
| afazekas | dkranz: it will +2, when the other parts are merged | 17:21 |
| malini | thanks mkoderer | 17:21 |
| dkranz | afazekas: ok, great | 17:21 |
| malini | afazekas: anything I can do to get the other parts merged? | 17:21 |
| dkranz | malini: You need to talk to the folks who have approval rights on those projects | 17:22 |
| dkranz | malini: which is basically the infra team | 17:22 |
| malini | dkranz: thanks! I'll ping in #openstack-infra | 17:22 |
| afazekas | malini: try to ping core reviews on the other projects at he #openstack-infra | 17:22 |
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| dkranz | malini: Great | 17:23 |
| malini | I am planning to add the basic api tests to tempest | 17:23 |
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| malini | Is that sufficient to graduate? | 17:23 |
| dkranz | malini: No | 17:23 |
| dkranz | malini: THere are a whole bunch of other issues | 17:23 |
| malini | dkranz: can I get some pointers on the other stuff? | 17:24 |
| mkoderer | dkranz: do we have it somewhere documented what is needed? | 17:24 |
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| dkranz | malini: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/IncubationUpdate2013 | 17:24 |
| dkranz | malini: I am not sure that is completely up to date | 17:24 |
| malini | This is our current plan https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/graduation | 17:25 |
| malini | But I am looking specifically for tempest specific stuff | 17:25 |
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| malini | Did I sacre everybody away? | 17:26 |
| dkranz | malini: I think having tempest tests that actually run somehow is all that is needed but I don't know about how comprehensive they have to be | 17:26 |
| malini | scare* | 17:26 |
| dkranz | malini: You need to take that up with the technical committee I think | 17:27 |
| malini | dkranz: ok..I was under the impression that somebidy here would have a say on the tempest part of it | 17:27 |
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| dkranz | malini: An opinion perhaps | 17:27 |
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| malini | sure dkranz! | 17:28 |
| dkranz | malini: You should look at the coverage of the other projects to get an idea | 17:28 |
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| malini | I am looking for all the opinions I can get | 17:28 |
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| dkranz | malini: But dont look at heat of ceilometer | 17:28 |
| malini | ok :) | 17:28 |
| dkranz | malini: They were graduated before there was a tempest requirement | 17:28 |
| malini | which would be a good one ? | 17:29 |
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| dkranz | malini: Perhaps glance | 17:29 |
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| dkranz | malini: Since it is relatively small | 17:29 |
| malini | ok.. | 17:29 |
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| dkranz | agordeev1: ironic testing | 17:29 |
| dkranz | #topic ironic testing | 17:30 |
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| agordeev1 | hi | 17:30 |
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| agordeev1 | just want to highlight the theme of ironic functional testing | 17:30 |
| dkranz | agordeev1: ok, go ahead | 17:30 |
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| dkranz | agordeev1: You there? | 17:31 |
| agordeev1 | the infra/qa guys suggested the way of testing. But i'm not sure if it is the best way to do that | 17:31 |
| agordeev1 | so, we introduced the alternative way | 17:32 |
| agordeev1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64420/ and partially implemented it | 17:32 |
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| agordeev1 | also started a discussion on mailing list | 17:32 |
| dkranz | agordeev1: I saw that discussion | 17:32 |
| dkranz | agordeev1: I didn't see a negative response to your suggestion | 17:33 |
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| agordeev1 | thanks for paying attention to it | 17:35 |
| dkranz | agordeev1: I guess that patch will get reviewed | 17:35 |
| dkranz | agordeev1: Have you gotten any negative feed back? | 17:35 |
| agordeev1 | i hope for now we have a time to disccuss the solution and choose the right way | 17:35 |
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| agordeev1 | dkranz: no, there is no feedback at all. Only a comment from devananda | 17:36 |
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| dkranz | afazekas: Do you have any comment about this? | 17:36 |
| * afazekas reading the patch | 17:37 | |
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| dkranz | I don't have a strong opinion about this | 17:37 |
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| vponomaryov | git status | 17:39 |
| vponomaryov | sorry, missed | 17:39 |
| dkranz | vponomaryov: ?? | 17:39 |
| agordeev1 | i'm hoping of getting more feedback/comments for the next meeting. For now, thank you for letting me to highlight this topic here :) | 17:41 |
| * afazekas may be the driver calls could be config option .. | 17:41 | |
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| dkranz | agordeev1: ok, there are a lot of people not here today due to neutron/tempest Montreal thing | 17:42 |
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| dkranz | #topic Criical reviews | 17:43 |
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| dkranz | Critical | 17:43 |
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| dkranz | We should continue to watch for heat and ceilometer patches though I don't believe there are any in need of attention right now | 17:43 |
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| dkranz | #topic Open Discussion | 17:44 |
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| dkranz | Any one have anything else to discuss? | 17:44 |
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| vponomaryov | dkranz: one thing | 17:45 |
| dkranz | vponomaryov: Yes | 17:45 |
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| vponomaryov | On previous meeting, we have discussed refactoring of rest-client https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62923/ | 17:46 |
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| vponomaryov | and we came to the next: add unittests and only one patch | 17:46 |
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| vponomaryov | unittests has been added, and its waiting for review | 17:47 |
| dkranz | vponomaryov: ok, we should review that | 17:47 |
| dkranz | vponomaryov: Thanks | 17:47 |
| vponomaryov | dkranz: ok, thanks | 17:47 |
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| dkranz | Anything else? | 17:48 |
| rahmu | dkranz: hey, sorry I was in a work meeting | 17:48 |
| rahmu | is there still time to talk about the use-six blueprint? | 17:48 |
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| dkranz | rahmu: ok, you had two issues | 17:48 |
| dkranz | rahmu: Go ahea | 17:48 |
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| rahmu | I thought we could start preparing for an eventual python 3 migration | 17:49 |
| rahmu | by including the Six library as much as we can | 17:49 |
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| rahmu | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/six/1.1.0 | 17:49 |
| rahmu | other projects are already doing that | 17:50 |
| rahmu | I wrote a blueprint to track this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/use-six | 17:50 |
| rahmu | I don't know if the topic has already been discussed in the QA team | 17:50 |
| rahmu | what do you guys think about it? | 17:50 |
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| dkranz | rahmu: We need to look at that. I am not familiar with it and am not sure how much code would need to change. | 17:51 |
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| rahmu | okay | 17:52 |
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| rahmu | briefly, six will do runtime detection of the python version | 17:52 |
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| rahmu | and will replace something like six.iteritems(mydict) with mydict.iteritems() in python 2 and mydict.items() in python 3 | 17:52 |
| rahmu | this is how the lib works for the most part | 17:53 |
| rahmu | we can see here the other projects tracking this effort: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3 | 17:53 |
| rahmu | dkranz: any idea when would be the best time to bring this idea up? | 17:54 |
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| dkranz | rahmu: I suggest a mailing list discussion | 17:54 |
| rahmu | dkranz: okay will do | 17:54 |
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| mkoderer | rahmu: otherwise we can discuss it on the next summit | 17:55 |
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| mkoderer | I have doubts that we get py3 support for this release | 17:55 |
| dkranz | Yes, you can propose it as a session when the session website comes up | 17:55 |
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| rahmu | mkoderer: yeah sure. | 17:56 |
| dkranz | mkoderer: I agree, but have no doubt that we won't | 17:56 |
| dkranz | Anything else before we run out of time? | 17:56 |
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| dkranz | ok, our next meeting will be at 22:00 | 17:57 |
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| dkranz | Thanks, all | 17:57 |
| dkranz | #endmeeting | 17:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 16 17:57:16 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-01-16-17.03.html | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-01-16-17.03.txt | 17:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-01-16-17.03.log.html | 17:57 |
| rahmu | thanks all, bye | 17:57 |
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| agordeev1 | thanks for your time, bye! | 17:59 |
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| bdpayne | #startmeeting OpenStack Security Group | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 16 18:00:05 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bdpayne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 18:00 |
| bdpayne | Greetings everyone | 18:00 |
| bknudson | hi | 18:00 |
| bdpayne | #topic Rollcall | 18:00 |
| hyakuhei | I'm here but I'm currently in a voice meeting. | 18:00 |
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| bdpayne | who else is joining today? | 18:00 |
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| nkinder | o/ | 18:01 |
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| bdpayne | ok, sounds good | 18:01 |
| bdpayne | let's start by reviewing action items from last week | 18:01 |
| bdpayne | #topic Action Items | 18:02 |
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| paulmo | Paul Montgomery is here | 18:02 |
| bdpayne | Anyone have anything to report back? | 18:02 |
| bdpayne | List of action items is here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-01-09-18.02.html | 18:02 |
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| nkinder | I started a OSSN process wiki page | 18:02 |
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| malini1 | Malini here | 18:02 |
| paulmo | I edited the Solum security guidelines page to point to the OSSG guidelines. I will remove the content from the Solum side completely when I get a chance. :) | 18:02 |
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| nkinder | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Security_Note_Process | 18:03 |
| bdpayne | nkinder hyakuhei paulmo ewindisch malini1 All took on tasks last week | 18:03 |
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| bdpayne | paulmo sounds good | 18:03 |
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| malini1 | nkinder: thank you for the process linke | 18:03 |
| malini | malini1: nice to meet you :D But I am getting out of here so fols dont get confused | 18:03 |
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| nkinder | There has been some discussion on-list about OSSN naming. | 18:04 |
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| malini1 | malini: hah hah, would like to meet you in person | 18:04 |
| hyakuhei | There has? How exciting! | 18:04 |
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| bdpayne | nkinder where does the naming discussion stand? | 18:04 |
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| nkinder | There are a few different views on naming... | 18:05 |
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| hyakuhei | Unresolved by the looks of things | 18:05 |
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| nkinder | There are concerns about confusion between OSSAs and OSSNs if we use a similar naming style | 18:05 |
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| nkinder | I was initially thinking of something like OSSN-2014-001 | 18:05 |
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| malini1 | nkinder: glad I am not the only confused entity | 18:06 |
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| nkinder | That looks similar to OSSA-2014-001 though. | 18:06 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: +1 on <date><issue> | 18:06 |
| hyakuhei | So we _can_ do whatever we want... | 18:06 |
| hyakuhei | but we should take the concerns of the VMT into account | 18:06 |
| hyakuhei | There will be many more OSSNs than OSSAs, the OSSAs may get lots in the noise. | 18:07 |
| hyakuhei | *lost | 18:07 |
| hyakuhei | and they're arguably more important | 18:07 |
| malini1 | hyakuhei: good to have date stuff, but may be expanding the "A" and "N" would be adequate? | 18:07 |
| nkinder | Thierry is thinking of OSSNs as living docs that are more like knowledge base documents that will be updated over time, so he doesn't see a strong need for the name to refer to the date/order of publishing. | 18:07 |
| nkinder | I can see both sides of it honestly. | 18:07 |
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| hyakuhei | A short handle is very useful | 18:08 |
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| bknudson | are OSSNs published like OSSAs are? | 18:08 |
| hyakuhei | Yup | 18:08 |
| bknudson | if they're living docs then that would be a wiki page or something. | 18:08 |
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| bknudson | or could be in git repo | 18:08 |
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| nkinder | We have them on the wiki too now. | 18:08 |
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| nkinder | I've outlined publishing in the process doc, but to summarize it's via e-mail lists and wiki. | 18:08 |
| bknudson | if it's a living doc then are we going to send an email on every update? | 18:09 |
| nkinder | Right now, naming is just the launchpad #. | 18:09 |
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| hyakuhei | I suggest we continue to discuss this on the email thread | 18:09 |
| bdpayne | my take is that the particulars of the numbering scheme is not too important, but it is important that we have a consistent numbering scheme to easily refer to these things | 18:09 |
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| nkinder | hyakuhei: +1 | 18:09 |
| hyakuhei | as the VMT have some stakeholderyness | 18:09 |
| hyakuhei | and aren't here | 18:09 |
| nkinder | bdpayne: +1 also :) | 18:09 |
| bdpayne | yeah, email thread discussion sounds good | 18:09 |
| bdpayne | appreciate the update here | 18:09 |
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| bdpayne | any other updates on action items from last week? | 18:10 |
| nkinder | One other action item of mine was to wrap up the keystone OSSN | 18:10 |
| hyakuhei | I've done 2 of the guidelines, will try to do a lot more this week | 18:10 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: I dropped some comments on your ossn last night | 18:10 |
| ewindisch | bdpayne: no - not yet :( | 18:10 |
| nkinder | It's reviewed by dolph and hyakuhei, but there was one response I wanted hyakuhei to see. | 18:10 |
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| bdpayne | ok, sounds good | 18:11 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: ..so the "in Apache" vs. "behind Apache" comment... | 18:11 |
| nkinder | I think "in Apache" is correct since Keystone is run via mod_wsgi. | 18:11 |
| bdpayne | ewindisch we should probably plan something soonish to get it in before the next summit | 18:11 |
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| hyakuhei | I'm happy for you to write it either way, just wanted to point it out and make sure you were happy. | 18:11 |
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| nkinder | bknudson should be able to weigh in since he's on the keystone team. | 18:11 |
| hyakuhei | because later its referred to as an external entity but yeah, happy either way :) | 18:12 |
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| bknudson | you can do remote user even without apache, by putting middleware in the paste pipeline. | 18:12 |
| ewindisch | bdpayne: I agree. I've been sorting out my travel plans this week. Until that was settled, it was hard for me to figure out a schedule. | 18:12 |
| malini1 | My AR was to review some OSSNs, get my feet wet. I checked out #1227575 -- group deletion deletes all user tokens associated with group and looked at the noVNC advisory | 18:12 |
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| bdpayne | ewindisch yeah, no pressure, just an observation :-) | 18:12 |
| malini1 | wil look at nkinder process doc and see what next | 18:12 |
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| bknudson | I prefer "in Apache" rather than "behind Apache" ... people might think you're using Apache as a proxy. | 18:12 |
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| nkinder | bknudson: ok, then I'll add "such as running in Apache" to serve as an example | 18:13 |
| nkinder | I'll get this published today then. | 18:13 |
| nkinder | malini1: thanks! | 18:13 |
| ewindisch | bdpayne: TBH, March works best for me, although it's fairly late. | 18:13 |
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| bdpayne | March could be ok | 18:14 |
| bdpayne | if it's planned in advance | 18:14 |
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| bdpayne | I just don't want to be planning it in March | 18:14 |
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| ewindisch | bdpayne: obviously. | 18:14 |
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| bdpayne | ok, so topics of discussion for today? | 18:14 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: What about your action item to set up a discussion around security review process for ironic? | 18:14 |
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| hyakuhei | nkinder: pending... | 18:15 |
| nkinder | ok | 18:15 |
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| nkinder | bdpayne: What about summit talks out of our group? Submissions are open until 2/14. | 18:15 |
| bdpayne | #topcis Today's Agenda | 18:15 |
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| bdpayne | summit talks... good topic | 18:15 |
| bdpayne | anything else? | 18:15 |
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| nkinder | I wanted to check in on the noVNC OSSN status, but sriram isn't here. | 18:16 |
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| nkinder | It would be nice to wrap it up. | 18:16 |
| bdpayne | yeah, there's a few things I'd like to get updates on but people are missing | 18:16 |
| bdpayne | I'll try to ping people during the week to ensure that they come to the next meeting so we can get updates | 18:17 |
| malini1 | bdpayne: months back we had glossary infrastructure set up for the security guide book, need to weave in references to glossary in the text | 18:17 |
| bdpayne | #action bdpayne to encourage people working on OSSG tasks to attend the next meeting for updates | 18:17 |
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| bdpayne | malini1 Yes that should be coordinated with the book editors | 18:17 |
| bdpayne | @topic Summit Talks | 18:18 |
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| bdpayne | #topic Summit Talks | 18:18 |
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| bdpayne | Anyone planning to submit a talk to the summit? | 18:18 |
| malini1 | noVNC had some rtaction for back porting, restricting number of connections, and there was one wrinkle, where conn count would not work | 18:18 |
| hyakuhei | Yes, no real idea what | 18:18 |
| hyakuhei | Some OSSG talk would be good | 18:18 |
| bdpayne | http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-atlanta-2014/call-for-speakers/ | 18:18 |
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| bdpayne | Do we have any insight into if the selection process will be like in the past? | 18:19 |
| bdpayne | Community voting and such? | 18:19 |
| hyakuhei | So anyone who's happy that security is back on the agenda, feel free to send scotch | 18:19 |
| ewindisch | bdpayne: pretty early yet, but at least planning one around docker, considering they foot my bills ;-) | 18:19 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: should be | 18:19 |
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| ewindisch | Probably "Best Practices for Docker on OpenStack" -- which would include things like securing the registry | 18:19 |
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| hyakuhei | bdpayne: It'd be good if we got this security review done and present on that | 18:20 |
| ewindisch | otherwise, still TBD | 18:20 |
| bdpayne | +1 to a talk on the security review | 18:20 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: That's a good idea. | 18:20 |
| bdpayne | I also like the idea of trying for an OSSG update talk again... | 18:20 |
| bdpayne | Nice to share with the community what's going on | 18:20 |
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| bdpayne | so let's push ahead with the Ironic review hyakuhei and then we can think about a talk submission once we have more meat | 18:21 |
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| bdpayne | as for the OSSG talk submission, who'd like to help me with that? | 18:21 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: +1 for an OSSG talk | 18:21 |
| hyakuhei | :) | 18:21 |
| bdpayne | we could potentially do a small panel too | 18:21 |
| nkinder | bdpayne: I can help with a basic OSSG update submission | 18:21 |
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| bdpayne | as in, the OSSG talk could be a panel | 18:22 |
| nkinder | I like the panel approach | 18:22 |
| malini1 | bdpayne how about covering issues OSSG spotted, i saw you had input on the key manager | 18:22 |
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| hyakuhei | I'm submitting a historical review of OpenStack Security | 18:22 |
| hyakuhei | Going through all the OSSNs, OSSAs and the stuff that happened before OSSA was a thing | 18:23 |
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| malini1 | bdpayne: keystone folks go back and forth on the lifetime of their tokens, and i honestly do not understand why they have so many tokens floating around, why not one user, one token kind of thing, and how to memcache them | 18:23 |
| hyakuhei | doing RCA in places and discussing how to move forward | 18:23 |
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| malini1 | think we should understand issues and help it become secure and performant | 18:23 |
| bdpayne | malini1 I agree, that's a rather big separate issue though | 18:24 |
| bdpayne | #action bdpayne to coordinate with nkinder and hyakuhei for an OSSG talk and/or panel discussion | 18:24 |
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| bdpayne | I'm leaning towards doing something on the security issues specific to private clouds | 18:25 |
| bdpayne | but... no guarentees on that just yet ;-) | 18:25 |
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| bdpayne | #topic Open Discussion | 18:25 |
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| bdpayne | ok that's all I have for today | 18:25 |
| bdpayne | anything else on people's minds? | 18:25 |
| malini1 | bdpayne: mentioned keystone in the context of the keystone group delete, their revoke list etc hard because of number of toekns floating | 18:26 |
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| malini1 | bdpayne: in my humble opinion panel on OSSG may not get traction | 18:26 |
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| bknudson | malini1: revocation list should be helped by https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/revocation-events | 18:27 |
| malini1 | bdpayne: we may get ++ for bringing in some security best practice, even a focused aspect | 18:27 |
| hyakuhei | malini1: it may not but we do have the security track back again this summit | 18:27 |
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| nkinder | malini1: I think it will depend on what we have in the submission | 18:27 |
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| hyakuhei | The more submissions the better btw | 18:28 |
| bknudson | design summit discussions are typically best when they involve a decision to be made. | 18:28 |
| hyakuhei | I lobbied hard for the security track to return, it'd be good to have plenty to choose from | 18:28 |
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| malini1 | hyskuhei: nice to have security track back! nkinder: a talk on OSSNs and OSSAs and how to leverage them, generate them etc, educating the community | 18:28 |
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| bknudson | let's be FIPS 140-2 compliant | 18:28 |
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| bknudson | and NIST 800-131 | 18:29 |
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| bdpayne_ | sorry guys, I got disconnected | 18:29 |
| bdpayne_ | oh boy | 18:29 |
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| malini1 | hyakuhei: will tickle my noodles and comme up with a talk, in appreciation of you winning the security track back | 18:30 |
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| malini1 | bknudson: thank you, will dig in on the revoc evnt | 18:30 |
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| malini1 | malini1 also having a bad type day | 18:31 |
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| bdpayne_ | ok, that's all we have time for today | 18:31 |
| bdpayne_ | #endmeeting | 18:31 |
| nkinder | Thanks all! | 18:31 |
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| bknudson | thanks | 18:31 |
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| bdpayne | #endmeeting | 18:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 16 18:33:31 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-01-16-18.00.html | 18:33 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-01-16-18.00.txt | 18:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-01-16-18.00.log.html | 18:33 |
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| harlowja | #startmeeting openstack-state-management | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 16 20:00:05 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is harlowja. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-state-management)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_state_management' | 20:00 |
| harlowja | howdy folks! | 20:00 |
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| harlowja | anyone around, if not short meeting :) | 20:01 |
| harlowja | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-January/024477.html | 20:01 |
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| harlowja | maybe everyone just busy working :) | 20:01 |
| harlowja | which is fine | 20:01 |
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| harlowja | will wait a few | 20:02 |
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| harlowja | zzzz | 20:04 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:04 |
| harlowja | anyways, i'll update my own status! | 20:05 |
| harlowja | #topic status | 20:05 |
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| * harlowja doing reviews, working on scoping | 20:05 | |
| harlowja | flushed out some of the previous action items i had to do | 20:05 |
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| harlowja | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/state_management/2014/state_management.2014-01-09-20.00.html | 20:06 |
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| harlowja | wrote up https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TaskFlow#Workflow_ownership_transfer | 20:06 |
| harlowja | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TaskFlow#Workflow_ownership_transfer | 20:06 |
| harlowja | hopefully explains the general idea | 20:06 |
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| harlowja | wrote up some of the cinder persistence ideas | 20:07 |
| harlowja | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-taskflow-persistence | 20:07 |
| harlowja | and started the pros/cons of oslo joining | 20:07 |
| harlowja | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-taskflow | 20:07 |
| harlowja | working with doug on some of this, seeing if i can flush those out | 20:07 |
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| changbl | hi, | 20:08 |
| harlowja | hi changbl | 20:09 |
| harlowja | one sec, need to move rooms, in a meeting room with lots of people :-P | 20:09 |
| changbl | ok... | 20:09 |
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| harlowja | kk | 20:10 |
| harlowja | moved to couch, haha | 20:10 |
| changbl | reading your status update | 20:11 |
| harlowja | kk | 20:11 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:11 |
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| harlowja | didn't get around to documenting *real* zookeeper usage yet | 20:11 |
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| harlowja | will connect with tooz people on some of this | 20:11 |
| changbl | tooz? | 20:11 |
| harlowja | #link https://github.com/stackforge/tooz | 20:12 |
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| harlowja | they are also doing zookeeper stuffs changbl | 20:12 |
| changbl | "The Tooz project aims at centralizing the most common distributed primitives like group membership protocol, lock service and leader election by providing a coordination API helping developers to build distributed applications." | 20:12 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/stackforge/tooz/tree/master/tooz/drivers | 20:12 |
| harlowja | yup | 20:12 |
| harlowja | i wanna use it for locking eventually in taskflow | 20:13 |
| changbl | did not zookeeper/kazoo already provide coordination apis? | 20:13 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:13 |
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| harlowja | i think they are more of the api ontop of those services/apis | 20:13 |
| harlowja | not reinventing zookeeper | 20:13 |
| changbl | man... | 20:13 |
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| changbl | i think zookeeper is good enough... :) | 20:14 |
| changbl | anyway | 20:14 |
| changbl | move on | 20:14 |
| harlowja | u won't get much disagreement from me (i'm biased, ha) | 20:14 |
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| harlowja | kk, where was i | 20:14 |
| harlowja | so ya, just doing that writeup, trying to figure out how scopes should work, and what the restrictions are | 20:15 |
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| harlowja | and working in reviews when i can :) | 20:15 |
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| harlowja | changbl any status u have, just working on that review, looks like its pretty close :) | 20:15 |
| harlowja | might just be u and me here, not sure where others are, haha | 20:16 |
| changbl | yes, saw you comments of wanting more :) | 20:16 |
| changbl | will work on sometime this week | 20:16 |
| changbl | got diverted to other things | 20:16 |
| harlowja | kk, np | 20:16 |
| harlowja | hopefully not to bad, the exception translating should be easy | 20:16 |
| changbl | ok... | 20:16 |
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| harlowja | thx changbl :) | 20:17 |
| changbl | there are other things in my queue for zk | 20:17 |
| harlowja | hmmmm | 20:17 |
| changbl | like locking, an example, and ACLs | 20:17 |
| harlowja | for taskflow or just in general? | 20:17 |
| changbl | for taskflow, sir | 20:17 |
| harlowja | ah, neat, we should connect with jd__ and the tooz folks | 20:17 |
| harlowja | see where things should land | 20:18 |
| changbl | tooz, hmm... | 20:18 |
| harlowja | and least discuss i think :) | 20:18 |
| harlowja | *at least | 20:18 |
| changbl | sure... | 20:18 |
| changbl | kazoo, zookeeper, tooz, zake... | 20:18 |
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| harlowja | :-P | 20:18 |
| changbl | look at these funny names... | 20:18 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:18 |
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| changbl | you will give me the write up on how to tesk zookeper with jenkins right? | 20:19 |
| harlowja | sure | 20:19 |
| changbl | great | 20:19 |
| harlowja | the basic idea i see, at least how tooz is doing it | 20:20 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/stackforge/tooz/blob/master/tox.ini#L11 | 20:20 |
| harlowja | in that run_tests.sh they setup zookeeper | 20:20 |
| harlowja | so we could do something similar | 20:20 |
| changbl | oh, nice | 20:20 |
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| changbl | you have a run_test.sh | 20:20 |
| harlowja | but will bug infra about how we can just have zookeeper running automatically (this is how there mysql/postgres works) | 20:21 |
| changbl | ok | 20:21 |
| harlowja | seems odd that we should have to start much, but maybe we have to, idk | 20:21 |
| harlowja | #action harlowja bug infra about zookeeper usage (perhaps not having to start it ourselves...) | 20:22 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/stackforge/tooz/blob/master/run_tests.sh#L22 and all that changbl , but gotta be an easier way i hope | 20:22 |
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| harlowja | will do that soon, i hope :) | 20:23 |
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| changbl | only one zookeeper instance? | 20:24 |
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| harlowja | seems like it, its not a full quorum and all that | 20:24 |
| changbl | ok, i guess it is fine for testing | 20:25 |
| harlowja | be nice to have infra have a zookeeper server quorum that can just be used | 20:25 |
| changbl | though i use 3 for my testing | 20:25 |
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| harlowja | ya, thats more typical | 20:25 |
| harlowja | #topic help-needed-reviews-integration-other | 20:26 |
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| harlowja | not sure if anyone around doing much integration, i havent done as much as i want recently | 20:26 |
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| harlowja | some cinder reviews are getting farther along, i know a nova-snapshot one is also, slowly but surely | 20:27 |
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| harlowja | so i guess we skip this week, since those people aren't around (or are ok/doing fine) | 20:28 |
| changbl | yes | 20:28 |
| harlowja | #topic checkpointing | 20:28 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "checkpointing (Meeting topic: openstack-state-management)" | 20:28 | |
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| harlowja | so those people aren't online either, so i guess we can skip that, reviews are up, so feel free to jump on looking at those | 20:29 |
| changbl | what is checkpointing and why is it needed? | 20:29 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:30 |
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| harlowja | so thats a good question, part of its usage is to revert to a single 'point' instead of full reversion | 20:30 |
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| harlowja | *revert to last checkpoint | 20:30 |
| changbl | when reaching a checkpoint, what does taskflow do? | 20:31 |
| harlowja | right, need anatatasia / ivan for that question :) | 20:31 |
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| harlowja | but my understanding is that acts as a save point | 20:32 |
| changbl | :) | 20:32 |
| changbl | save data into backend? | 20:32 |
| harlowja | ya, right now we save alot of indivudal data | 20:32 |
| harlowja | which is fine, but a checkpoint allows us to save less (if its desired) | 20:32 |
| harlowja | and to also allow for discarding data before the checkpoint | 20:32 |
| changbl | still confused why checkpoint can save less, but i can save my questions for next meeting | 20:33 |
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| harlowja | k, maybe save less is a bad word, but it can collapse the previous tasks that have executed, and discard some of there data | 20:33 |
| harlowja | say X task produces Y output used by Z task, Z task produces A output, then checkpoint *here*, at this point u can discard Y output | 20:34 |
| changbl | wonder how much data can be saved .... it is just one output... | 20:34 |
| harlowja | *that was a made up example ;) | 20:34 |
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| changbl | yes... | 20:35 |
| harlowja | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TaskFlow/Checkpointing | 20:35 |
| harlowja | other ideas i think are on there | 20:35 |
| harlowja | but lets grab those 2 folks and we can get them to dive deeper | 20:35 |
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| changbl | sure | 20:36 |
| changbl | will read it | 20:36 |
| harlowja | kk | 20:36 |
| harlowja | but good questions changbl | 20:36 |
| changbl | :) | 20:36 |
| harlowja | #topic scoping | 20:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "scoping (Meeting topic: openstack-state-management)" | 20:37 | |
| harlowja | harlowja what is scoping and why is it needed? | 20:37 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:37 |
| changbl | yes :) | 20:37 |
| harlowja | ha | 20:37 |
| changbl | save me some typing:) | 20:38 |
| harlowja | ;) | 20:38 |
| harlowja | so a flaw that i think currently exists in taskflow is that when u construct flows and organize them in a hierachy, and then u submit it to an engine, u don't actually retain that structure when saving (only the root saves all the information) | 20:39 |
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| harlowja | so u have a hierachy of X flow (which contains Y flow which contains Z flow) | 20:39 |
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| harlowja | all the details are stored under X (not into there corresponding flow) | 20:39 |
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| harlowja | so this seems a little confusing to users that expect to examine a logbook and find the details for the given flow Y or Z | 20:40 |
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| harlowja | so the basic concept is to save it under the corresponding flow instead (which then does retain that connection) | 20:40 |
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| harlowja | it also affects the lookup of requirements for a task (to retain the correct ordering and all that) | 20:41 |
| harlowja | make more sense? | 20:41 |
| changbl | like ACLs? | 20:41 |
| harlowja | ummm, maybe | 20:41 |
| harlowja | also like scoping rules in a programming language (in a way) | 20:41 |
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| harlowja | *so thats why i called it scoping | 20:42 |
| changbl | oh, you mean the relation (Z is Y and Y is in X) is also retained when they are stored in logbook? | 20:43 |
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| harlowja | so a task exists in one of X or Y right | 20:43 |
| harlowja | so it would lookup it its local X or Y first (as well as save data there directly) | 20:44 |
| harlowja | and it would continue up the chain of its visible scopes to find requirements | 20:44 |
| harlowja | this then retains the correct logbook format, u now find the task results in the flow that u created it in | 20:44 |
| harlowja | instead of just the root flow | 20:44 |
| harlowja | *which in logbook terms is a flowdetail | 20:45 |
| changbl | ok, i kind of get what you mean | 20:45 |
| changbl | will this involve changing a lot of code? | 20:45 |
| harlowja | it mainly alters the engine lookup (where these lookups recide, and tracking that scope) | 20:46 |
| harlowja | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64895/19/taskflow/tests/unit/test_scoping.py (some examples there) | 20:46 |
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| changbl | k. seems no change to api, which is good | 20:47 |
| AmriUnix | hello guys !!! | 20:47 |
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| harlowja | changbl only major change is the engine helpers api, which previously just took in the root flow_detail, which now doesn't make sense to just take that in (but it should take in the full logbook instead) | 20:48 |
| harlowja | AmriUnix hi | 20:48 |
| changbl | i think AmrUnix just went in to say hi.... :) | 20:49 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:49 |
| changbl | and then left | 20:49 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:49 |
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| harlowja | changbl so does that sorta make sense? | 20:51 |
| harlowja | its a little complicated, i know | 20:51 |
| * harlowja working on test cases to fully make sure that its ok | 20:51 | |
| changbl | i think i got what it means | 20:51 |
| harlowja | kk | 20:51 |
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| harlowja | :) | 20:53 |
| harlowja | so ya, i'll keep on adding more tests and stuff | 20:53 |
| changbl | thx | 20:53 |
| harlowja | #topic other-work-going-on | 20:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "other-work-going-on (Meeting topic: openstack-state-management)" | 20:53 | |
| changbl | just wonder, where are other folks today? we used to have many people in this meeting | 20:55 |
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| harlowja | not quite sure :-/ | 20:55 |
| harlowja | i pinged some of them | 20:55 |
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| harlowja | any other work that people want to bring up / questions? | 20:55 |
| changbl | where are rackspace folks? did not see them for a while | 20:55 |
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| harlowja | busy with whatever they are doing i guess, never quite know :-P | 20:56 |
| changbl | :-P | 20:56 |
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| harlowja | kk, open discuss for leftover time | 20:57 |
| harlowja | #topic open-discuss | 20:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open-discuss (Meeting topic: openstack-state-management)" | 20:57 | |
| harlowja | 3 minutes! | 20:57 |
| changbl | no more questions from me, I guess we just need to make openstack use taskflow as much as possible | 20:57 |
| harlowja | *make* is a hard one, ha | 20:58 |
| changbl | a better word? | 20:58 |
| harlowja | work with, haha | 20:58 |
| changbl | :) | 20:58 |
| harlowja | alright, guess it was just me and changbl | 20:59 |
| harlowja | thx changbl for showing up :) | 20:59 |
| changbl | :) | 20:59 |
| harlowja | maybe more people next time, haha | 20:59 |
| changbl | :) | 20:59 |
| changbl | this concludes all my meeting this week | 20:59 |
| changbl | gonna focus on real work now | 20:59 |
| harlowja | sweet! | 20:59 |
| harlowja | for others #openstack-state-management if u need more :) | 20:59 |
| harlowja | #end-meeting | 20:59 |
| harlowja | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 16 21:00:03 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_state_management/2014/openstack_state_management.2014-01-16-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_state_management/2014/openstack_state_management.2014-01-16-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_state_management/2014/openstack_state_management.2014-01-16-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
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| russellb | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 16 21:00:52 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is russellb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| russellb | hello, everyone! | 21:01 |
| n0ano | o/ | 21:01 |
| melwitt | hi | 21:01 |
| dripton | hi | 21:01 |
| geekinutah | ola! | 21:01 |
| hartsocks | \o | 21:01 |
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| russellb | #topic general | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "general (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| russellb | nova meetup coming up soon! | 21:01 |
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| russellb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/IcehouseCycleMeetup | 21:01 |
| russellb | details on that page | 21:01 |
| russellb | a more recent addition was the etherpad where we'll collect some discussion ideas: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-icehouse-mid-cycle-meetup-items | 21:02 |
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| russellb | general idea for the format right now is ... reserve some time for group discussion/presentation, unconference style ... and at least half the time reserved for just working on things together | 21:02 |
| russellb | whether that's hacking code, reviewing code, reviewing blueprints, talking through tough problems, etc ... | 21:03 |
| russellb | should be good. | 21:03 |
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| russellb | #topic sub-teams | 21:03 |
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| * hartsocks waves | 21:03 | |
| * n0ano gantt | 21:03 | |
| russellb | who wants to give a report and discuss work in sub-teams? raise hand | 21:03 |
| russellb | hartsocks: you're up first | 21:03 |
| * melwitt novaclient | 21:03 | |
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| russellb | actually real quick | 21:04 |
| russellb | i should have mentioned in general a quick schedule note ... | 21:04 |
| russellb | icehosue-2 is next week | 21:04 |
| russellb | code freeze for that is tueseday | 21:04 |
| russellb | so you have < 1 week to get code merged for icehouse-2 | 21:04 |
| russellb | that is all on that | 21:04 |
| russellb | hartsocks: ok now you can go | 21:04 |
| hartsocks | Okay, so we're dealing with performance issues on Minesweeper. There's several BP and bugs in flight now on how to get the Minesweeper to sweep faster. | 21:04 |
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| hartsocks | That's our big deal. | 21:04 |
| russellb | so what kind of performance | 21:05 |
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| russellb | how long test runs are taking basically? | 21:05 |
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| hartsocks | okay. | 21:05 |
| hartsocks | so we're seeing 4 hours w/o parallel | 21:06 |
| hartsocks | and 2 hours with | 21:06 |
| russellb | parallel with what concurrency | 21:06 |
| hartsocks | the parallelization stuff causes problems but we're working on it. | 21:06 |
| russellb | cool, sounds like it's helping improve quality :) | 21:06 |
| russellb | the goal after all | 21:06 |
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| hartsocks | IIRC: we're looking at 4 … but that might have changed since my last look. | 21:07 |
| russellb | OK, just curious | 21:07 |
| russellb | devstack-gate jobs currently run with 4 | 21:07 |
| russellb | (but it's a bit too high, we'll talk about that later) | 21:07 |
| hartsocks | so that's the big news for us. | 21:07 |
| russellb | thanks for the updates! | 21:08 |
| hartsocks | I spammed the ML with more details on reveiws | 21:08 |
| russellb | OK, if you #link it in the meeting itll be in the minutes | 21:08 |
| russellb | but we'll move on for now | 21:08 |
| hartsocks | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware-subteam-icehouse-2 | 21:08 |
| russellb | perfect | 21:08 |
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| russellb | will have to check later to make sure it shows up if you do it and not me ... | 21:09 |
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| russellb | n0ano: hi! | 21:09 |
| russellb | so, scheduler stuff. | 21:09 |
| n0ano | scheduler - never heard of it :-) | 21:09 |
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| russellb | sounds like the plan isn't too clear or agreed upon this week | 21:09 |
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| n0ano | flurry of emails on that but I think we can bottom out | 21:09 |
| russellb | few different ways we can improve it i think ... | 21:10 |
| russellb | what are your thoughts? | 21:10 |
| n0ano | looks like the idea of continuous update vs. the nova tree is not in favor, which is OK | 21:10 |
| n0ano | the top idea now is we use the current gantt snapshot and get it working, unit tests and full integration... | 21:10 |
| russellb | OK, that sounds pretty good to me | 21:11 |
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| russellb | though depending on timing, integration may not work | 21:11 |
| russellb | if it's too far behind nova | 21:11 |
| n0ano | after that we get all the patches that were needed, re-create the gantt tree from the current nova tree and then update the gantt tree to work again | 21:11 |
| russellb | ok, sounds perfect | 21:11 |
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| russellb | if we know we have a path to a gantt that works quite quickly | 21:11 |
| russellb | then i'm much more open to freezing nova-scheduler at that point | 21:12 |
| n0ano | we should be OK, the current snapshot was a working nova tree so getting it to pass integration test should be possible | 21:12 |
| n0ano | agreed, I don't want to freeze anything until we have a working gantt, no point in stopping development | 21:12 |
| n0ano | I'll send out an email that details this new plan and make sure everyone agrees to it | 21:12 |
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| russellb | sounds good | 21:13 |
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| russellb | depending on how that comes along, it's also worth considering planning the re-sync after feature freeze | 21:13 |
| russellb | that timing would work nicely, i think | 21:13 |
| russellb | then starting with juno dev, all features go to gantt instead of nova | 21:13 |
| n0ano | probably a good idea, I think it's going to take longer than we wanted to get gantt working but we'll see | 21:13 |
| russellb | a clean switch point | 21:13 |
| russellb | yeah | 21:13 |
| russellb | let's see how long it takes | 21:14 |
| russellb | but if it takes until then, i think that's actually OK because the timing is nice | 21:14 |
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| n0ano | for sure, I can's see gantt being a default until after Icehouse | 21:14 |
| russellb | agree | 21:14 |
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| n0ano | others - no db work is ongoing, there are patches out under review, hopefully they'll go in soon | 21:15 |
| russellb | ok, don't think we have that targeted for icehouse-2 | 21:15 |
| russellb | must be on icehouse-3 ... | 21:15 |
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| russellb | indeed, icehouse-3 it is | 21:15 |
| russellb | alright, thanks for the updates! | 21:15 |
| n0ano | one other... | 21:15 |
| russellb | sure | 21:15 |
| n0ano | glikson wants reviews for https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/multiple-scheduler-drivers,n,z if people can find the time | 21:16 |
| n0ano | just a gentle reminder | 21:16 |
| n0ano | that's about it for now. | 21:16 |
| russellb | cool, that's one of the ones on the blueprint list for icehouse-2 | 21:16 |
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| n0ano | codes there, just needs to be reviewed | 21:17 |
| russellb | sounds good | 21:17 |
| russellb | seems we've been struggling a bit to catch back up on the review queue since the holidays | 21:17 |
| russellb | very slowly improving based on stats | 21:17 |
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| russellb | melwitt: ok, novaclient! | 21:18 |
| melwitt | the weekly novaclient report 2014/1/16: | 21:18 |
| melwitt | open bugs, 139 !fix released, 90 !fix released and !fix committed | 21:18 |
| melwitt | 24 new bugs, 0 high bugs | 21:18 |
| melwitt | 33 patches up, 2 are WIP, good activity on reviews (as usual) | 21:18 |
| melwitt | I need to catch up on the bug queue, got behind on it because of holiday etc | 21:18 |
| melwitt | that's about it! | 21:18 |
| russellb | cool, status seems stable | 21:19 |
| russellb | new bug count isn't much higher at all than before holidays, so not bad at all | 21:19 |
| melwitt | yeah | 21:19 |
| russellb | thanks! | 21:20 |
| russellb | #topic bugs | 21:20 |
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| russellb | sooo, nova bugs | 21:20 |
| russellb | 207 new | 21:20 |
| russellb | could use plenty of triage help as usual :-) | 21:20 |
| russellb | some process notes on that if you want to help triage a few bugs: | 21:20 |
| russellb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage | 21:20 |
| russellb | and | 21:21 |
| russellb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage | 21:21 |
| russellb | we've got 8 critical bugs right now | 21:21 |
| russellb | all gate affecting test failures pretty sure. | 21:21 |
| russellb | which i wanted to talk a bit about | 21:21 |
| russellb | because there has been some good progress lately | 21:21 |
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| russellb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-January/024052.html | 21:21 |
| russellb | that link covers some gate failure analysis from last week, and some actions as a result | 21:22 |
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| jog0 | russellb: there is also the libvirt gate issues, which running libvirt 1.x *may* fix. | 21:22 |
| russellb | jog0: yes | 21:22 |
| jog0 | but we don't even know of nova works with libvirt 1.x | 21:22 |
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| russellb | my feeling is that the biggest improvement would be seen by merging: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65805/ | 21:22 |
| russellb | but it hasn't had much attention, unfortunately | 21:22 |
| jog0 | so nova-network was only hurting large-ops which hasn't been faling lately | 21:23 |
| russellb | that's not true | 21:23 |
| jog0 | link? | 21:23 |
| russellb | it was causing most of the failures i was seeing in the "timed out waiting for thing" bug too | 21:23 |
| russellb | which was the #2 gate bug | 21:23 |
| russellb | further, it's also going to help the #1 gate bug, the ssh timeout thing | 21:23 |
| russellb | because it seems even that is largely performance related | 21:24 |
| russellb | (they had some bugs too) | 21:24 |
| russellb | note the neutron guy's comment on the review, as well | 21:24 |
| russellb | the vast majority of the top failures are performance related due to the tests overloading nova+nova-network or nova+neutron | 21:24 |
| russellb | was my conclusion from last week | 21:24 |
| jog0 | russellb: hmm lets talk after | 21:25 |
| russellb | regarding nova-network, we've landed a few small changes | 21:25 |
| russellb | and we also have this patch series that dan and I have been doing this week ... https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/nova-network-objects,n,z | 21:25 |
| russellb | which will speed up nova-network quite a bit | 21:25 |
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| russellb | we've been busting our tails on that this week, largely as a response to realizing that the performance was a root cause (and that the mitigating patch is being ignored :-( ) | 21:25 |
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| russellb | anyone else have some bug related topics for today? | 21:26 |
| jog0 | russellb: FWIW jeblair is on vacation this week and infra is barebones right now | 21:26 |
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| jog0 | and dealing with many issues | 21:26 |
| russellb | OK, guess I didn't really have insight into issues they're fighting | 21:27 |
| dripton | It would be good if all the good reviews that fix real bugs got reviewed in time for Icehouse-2. The slow review queue hurts. | 21:27 |
| russellb | yeah, hard to make that process go much faster | 21:27 |
| russellb | we have a lot of icehouse-2 targeted bugs - https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 21:27 |
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| russellb | #topic blueprints | 21:28 |
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| russellb | speaking of icehouse-2 ... | 21:28 |
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| russellb | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 21:28 |
| russellb | we've merged 8 blueprints so far for icehouse-2 | 21:28 |
| russellb | our velocity is down a good bit compared to last cycle | 21:28 |
| russellb | some of that is holidays, some of it is gate issues, some of it is just lower availability of the core team it seems | 21:28 |
| russellb | but if the core team could help out in the next few days doing a review push for icehouse-2, that'd be great | 21:29 |
| jog0 | russellb: FWIW I would prefer to see a push on fixing gate issues first, that will improve general velocity | 21:29 |
| russellb | i used to have an easy way to email that group directly, but don't anymore :( | 21:29 |
| jog0 | but thast not really an xor issue | 21:29 |
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| russellb | jog0: sure, been trying | 21:30 |
| russellb | that's where all the nova-network performance work came from this week | 21:30 |
| russellb | would love help from more people | 21:30 |
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| jog0 | russellb: maybe this week can be libvirt | 21:30 |
| jog0 | russellb: ++ | 21:30 |
| russellb | trying to track current status here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-gate-issue-tracking | 21:30 |
| russellb | jog0: yeah, that can be next after this nova-network series lands i think | 21:30 |
| jog0 | russellb: woot | 21:30 |
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| russellb | any blueprint topics? | 21:31 |
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| russellb | note that we've completed 21 blueprints so far out of about 150 icehouse blueprints, heh | 21:31 |
| russellb | 118 targeted at icehouse-3 right now | 21:32 |
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| mikal | Yay! | 21:32 |
| russellb | so if you own one or more of those ... be prepared for some sort of major adjustment soon after icehouse-2 | 21:32 |
| russellb | perhaps an early code proposal deadline | 21:32 |
| russellb | because there's absolutely no way all of that can make it in 1 milestone | 21:32 |
| russellb | so we'll have to start doing a reality check and cutting it early | 21:32 |
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| russellb | icehouse is flying by ... | 21:32 |
| russellb | for reference: | 21:33 |
| russellb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule | 21:33 |
| russellb | #topic open discussion | 21:33 |
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| russellb | any other topics for today? | 21:33 |
| russellb | alrighty then | 21:35 |
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| russellb | as usual, #openstack-nova open for discussion throughout the week | 21:35 |
| russellb | thanks, everyone! | 21:35 |
| russellb | #endmeeting | 21:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:35 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 16 21:35:45 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-01-16-21.00.html | 21:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-01-16-21.00.txt | 21:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-01-16-21.00.log.html | 21:35 |
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