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| NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | #chair devananda | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | Welcome everyone to the Ironic meeting. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 10 19:00:09 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | Of course the agenda can be found at: | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:00 |
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| devananda | hi all! | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | Who's here for the Ironic Meeting? | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Greetings, roll-call and announcements (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:00 | |
| * matty_dubs is | 19:00 | |
| max_lobur_cell | Here | 19:00 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | hi devananda o/ | 19:00 |
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| jroll | \o just listening in | 19:00 |
| lucasagomes | :D | 19:00 |
| haomeng2 | o/ | 19:00 |
| coolsvap | Swapnil | 19:00 |
| rloo | hi | 19:00 |
| mrda | I'm here (for the first time) | 19:00 |
| devananda | mrda: welcome! :) | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | welcome jroll and mrda | 19:01 |
| jroll | my first as well :) | 19:01 |
| jroll | thanks | 19:01 |
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| mrda | \o/ | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | announcements: | 19:01 |
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| NobodyCam | Next Monday the 17th is a holiday in the US. | 19:01 |
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| haomeng2 | wel mda | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | and I'll prob be gone latter part of friday | 19:01 |
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| matty_dubs | Do you actually get the 17th off? We don't. :'( | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | :-p lol yep | 19:02 |
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| NobodyCam | but I'll be around for the meeting .. Most likly :) | 19:02 |
| devananda | I'll also be around for the meeting next week | 19:02 |
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| NobodyCam | anyone else? | 19:03 |
| jroll | I should be around | 19:03 |
| * matty_dubs will be here; will anyone _not_? | 19:03 | |
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| devananda | two small announcements that I didn't put on the agenda | 19:03 |
| devananda | i'd like to welcome max_lobur_cell and romcheg (who's not in channel??) to ironic-core :) | 19:04 |
| haomeng2 | i will be around | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | w00 h00 :) | 19:04 |
| GheRivero | congrats all! | 19:04 |
| matty_dubs | congrats! | 19:04 |
| max_lobur_cell | Thank everyone for support! | 19:04 |
| haomeng2 | congts | 19:04 |
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| lucasagomes | :) | 19:04 |
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| mrda | congrats max_lobur_cell and romcheg | 19:04 |
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| devananda | and get a quick check of folks who think they will make it to the sprint in CA on march 3 - 7 | 19:04 |
| * NobodyCam is planning on it | 19:05 | |
| lucasagomes | I'm going | 19:05 |
| max_lobur_cell | Not me :-\ | 19:05 |
| matty_dubs | I plan to be there. Any word on venue? | 19:05 |
| jroll | I'm a maybe. sunnyvale, right? | 19:05 |
| * GheRivero will do | 19:05 | |
| lucasagomes | jroll, yes | 19:05 |
| devananda | matty_dubs: venue and stuff is all set up, see the email from Robert Collins (lifeless) last week, iirc | 19:05 |
| mrda | I'll have to decline, even though I would love to, as I spent my travel credits on the nova mcm :( | 19:05 |
| haomeng2 | not me | 19:06 |
| rloo | most likely will be there for part of it | 19:06 |
| devananda | for those who are coming, please coordinate with cody-somerville so he has an accurate head count, etc | 19:06 |
| coolsvap | devananda: any options for remote participation? | 19:06 |
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| max_lobur_cell | + | 19:06 |
| devananda | coolsvap: we'll do etherpads for as much as possible, and doubtless there will be folks in IRC | 19:06 |
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| NobodyCam | humm not sure coolsvap ... I'm sure we can come up with somehting | 19:07 |
| devananda | coolsvap: but setting up video conference etc for everyone to watch is not likely | 19:07 |
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| NobodyCam | awesome! | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | look forward to seeing every one | 19:08 |
| coolsvap | devananda: etherpads are most welcome! | 19:08 |
| devananda | ok, moving on | 19:09 |
| max_lobur_cell | Yup, etherpads are ok | 19:09 |
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| NobodyCam | #topic Call-outs | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Call-outs (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:09 | |
| NobodyCam | Nova driver | 19:09 |
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| NobodyCam | 1st up lucasagomes Awesome job | 19:10 |
| NobodyCam | driver is starting to get split up in to small (more easly landed patched) | 19:10 |
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| * lucasagomes getting the links | 19:10 | |
| devananda | great job, guys! | 19:10 |
| devananda | one question i have on that work | 19:11 |
| NobodyCam | all current patches are linked on the agenda | 19:11 |
| NobodyCam | sure .... /me thinks he knows hte question | 19:11 |
| devananda | with the code getting split up, how should we faciliate folks who want to assemble it | 19:11 |
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| devananda | to test / track / continue work on it | 19:11 |
| NobodyCam | lol yup /me did | 19:11 |
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| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51328/ | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71026/ | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71429 | 19:11 |
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| devananda | ideas i have -- and please toss others out there too | 19:11 |
| NobodyCam | it a ton of git foo it keep up to date | 19:12 |
| devananda | section on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard with instructions to cherry-pick them in the right order | 19:12 |
| devananda | or a branch on github that anyone can pull | 19:12 |
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| NobodyCam | I can do the ether pad update | 19:12 |
| devananda | or we have a linear series of patches in gerrit and, to test it, one checks out the tail patchset | 19:12 |
| devananda | for folks using tripleo to test, the last one is the only viable one. You can export a branch ref to build images with, but not multple revisions | 19:13 |
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| lucasagomes | if you checkout a patch, it checks the dependecies as well | 19:13 |
| NobodyCam | git needs the idea of a meta patch | 19:14 |
| lucasagomes | so if u check the 51328 (main driver) as it depends on the host manager patch (71429) it's going to be checked | 19:14 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: right -- so if we keep all the patches in gerrit in a single dependency line, then it works | 19:15 |
| lucasagomes | yup | 19:15 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: the hostmanager patch and the iscsi patch were originally posted independently | 19:15 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yea... hmm that needs to be fixed | 19:15 |
| lucasagomes | the hostmaneger should depend on the iscsi patch | 19:15 |
| devananda | they're functionally independent, AIUI | 19:16 |
| NobodyCam | ++ my bad | 19:16 |
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| devananda | but if we keep them all ordered as a dependent chain, then ya, it makes testing easier | 19:17 |
| devananda | any objections to that? | 19:17 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, kinda, the hostmanager needs a function to get the iscsi initiation, if not depending on the patch which adds that function to a common place we are going to need to depende on the libvirt module | 19:17 |
| lucasagomes | so I think that the hostmanager one have to dependend on the iscsi yes | 19:17 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71429/7/nova/scheduler/ironic_host_manager.py | 19:17 |
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| devananda | how does taht depend on iscsi? | 19:18 |
| lucasagomes | ohh my bad! I confused that with the volume manager | 19:18 |
| lucasagomes | volume driver* | 19:18 |
| devananda | ahh yes :) | 19:18 |
| lucasagomes | the volume driver needs to depend on the iscsi | 19:18 |
| devananda | yep | 19:19 |
| lucasagomes | hmm | 19:19 |
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| devananda | I dealt with this when I worked on landing the original nova-baremetal driver | 19:19 |
| NobodyCam | I could put up a hack nova-ironic element in my repo that cherry picks the patches in order.. | 19:19 |
| devananda | it can be tricky to manage ~ 10 patch sets with non-linear dependency and >1 person working on them | 19:19 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: that's basically what I did for baremetal | 19:20 |
| lucasagomes | indeed :/ it's messy | 19:20 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: it is a bit of a pain to maintain it; it makes it easy for others to consume; and it hides the real complexity of pulling from gerrit | 19:20 |
| NobodyCam | we already had this : https://github.com/NoBodyCam/ironic-element/blob/master/nova-ironic/install.d/89-nova-ironic-services | 19:20 |
| devananda | a similar idea might be to maintain a bash script that pulls the right patches | 19:20 |
| devananda | eg, it pulls trunk and then cherry-picks in the right order | 19:21 |
| lucasagomes | yea | 19:21 |
| NobodyCam | bash script is right out there for all to see... | 19:21 |
| haomeng2 | + | 19:22 |
| NobodyCam | we could stach it in ironic/tools | 19:22 |
| devananda | ++ | 19:22 |
| lucasagomes | yea that would work | 19:22 |
| NobodyCam | easy for us all to keep updated too | 19:23 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:23 |
| NobodyCam | ++ for bash script to cherry pick | 19:23 |
| devananda | who wants to take that on? | 19:23 |
| NobodyCam | I can give it a stab | 19:23 |
| devananda | graet, thanks! | 19:23 |
| NobodyCam | #action Nobodyca come up with bash script to cherry pick needed reviews | 19:24 |
| devananda | #action NobodyCam to add a bash script in ironic/tools/ to pull necessary ironic patches in Nova tree | 19:24 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:24 |
| devananda | I'm going to skip the call outs for testing things | 19:24 |
| NobodyCam | ack | 19:25 |
| devananda | and go to i3 status / etc. we can come back to testing if there's time | 19:25 |
| devananda | #topic Icehouse Planning | 19:25 |
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| devananda | so there's several bits here taht folks should be aware of | 19:25 |
| devananda | hopefully most are :) | 19:25 |
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| devananda | some projects have adopted a Feb-18 deadline for new major code submissions | 19:25 |
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| devananda | to try to give reviewers time to digest things before I3 closes | 19:26 |
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| devananda | our review queue has been really slow... but, we just added 2 more folks to core -- so hopefully it'll speed up | 19:26 |
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| devananda | how do folks feel about that feb 18 "no new big patches" deadline? | 19:27 |
| lucasagomes | tight :P | 19:27 |
| max_lobur | it will | 19:27 |
| mrda | how does that mesh with the meetup being in the first week of march? | 19:27 |
| NobodyCam | I know there are some folks pushing hard to get some patches in | 19:27 |
| devananda | mrda: not at all :) | 19:27 |
| mrda | good :) | 19:27 |
| rloo | what is a major code submission? | 19:28 |
| devananda | rloo: also a good question | 19:28 |
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| matty_dubs | i3 is early March? | 19:29 |
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| NobodyCam | rloo: anything "new" / "are not doing now"???? | 19:29 |
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| devananda | matty_dubs: march 6 | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | 18 is tuesday | 19:30 |
| NobodyCam | after next | 19:30 |
| rloo | so 8 days away | 19:30 |
| devananda | rloo: for example, a whole new power driver | 19:30 |
| NobodyCam | I would vote for the 21 -- friday of that week | 19:30 |
| matty_dubs | So the 18th seems pretty conservative. >2 weeks? | 19:30 |
| matty_dubs | NobodyCam++ | 19:30 |
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| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, +1 | 19:31 |
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| NobodyCam | 17 is holiday too | 19:31 |
| GheRivero | +1 | 19:31 |
| haomeng2 | + | 19:31 |
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| devananda | how about phrased this way -- no new major features. but we'll continue to accept improvements (and particularly bug fixes) to existing features | 19:31 |
| devananda | and to look at any code taht's already been proposed | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: for 21st ? | 19:32 |
| devananda | eg, the work max_lobur has been doing on resolving a race condition. it's goign to be a substantial change (not just the one that's up there but the ones taht will follow it) | 19:32 |
| devananda | that needs to continue as it's fixing a serious bug | 19:32 |
| NobodyCam | ya | 19:32 |
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| NobodyCam | + 1 on wording | 19:32 |
| lucasagomes | seems reasonable +1 | 19:33 |
| devananda | great. | 19:33 |
| devananda | which leads me to ask... | 19:33 |
| devananda | what bugs and BPs should we be prioritizing for I3? | 19:33 |
| devananda | what can we postpone to the post-featurefreeze fix-all-the-bugs cycle? | 19:34 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/windows-disk-image-support posponed | 19:34 |
| rloo | i thought no bps were accepted after I3. | 19:34 |
| devananda | right, so that's a good example of why I'm raising this discussion | 19:34 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: their are folks working hard on that one | 19:34 |
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| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, right, I haven't seem any code yet | 19:35 |
| max_lobur | devananda: task cancellation is for I3? it looks huge | 19:35 |
| lucasagomes | and the implementation is not marked as "started" or anything | 19:35 |
| devananda | both the HP and SeaMicro folks would like to land drivers and features, but some of the code isn't even up at all yet | 19:35 |
| devananda | at least SeaMicro put code up two weeks ago :) | 19:36 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: see pm | 19:36 |
| rloo | lucasagomes: if you're referring to the windows one, there's a comment that they'll have initial code for reivew by feb 12. | 19:36 |
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| Wanyen | HP code is under internal review. We plan toupload it this week. | 19:37 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, NobodyCam ack | 19:37 |
| devananda | so if a new feature (eg, windows support in the pxe driver) is posted on feb 12, is that enough time for us to test it, review it, etc, by I3 -- given the existing backlog of bug fixes, and the work on the nova driver? | 19:37 |
| NobodyCam | welcome Wanyen | 19:37 |
| Wanyen | Thanks! | 19:37 |
| NobodyCam | did we set our freze date as 21st or 18th? | 19:38 |
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| matty_dubs | Is there ever really a _guarantee_ that things will be reviewed by a given time? | 19:38 |
| matty_dubs | vs. "get your patch in soon if you want it to land in i3"? | 19:38 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: i haven't responded to the thread yet, so we dont officially have a freeze date, but 18th is the common "stop submitting new features" deadline | 19:39 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: ack! | 19:39 |
| devananda | matty_dubs: correct. there's no guarantee, but most projects are telling folks to stop submitting new major features about 2 weeks ahead of I3 cut | 19:39 |
| devananda | matty_dubs: so that there is at least a chance they'll get reviewed in time :) | 19:39 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: erm, sorry, in my speed-typing i mistyped -- not a freeze date | 19:41 |
| devananda | freeze is I3. no new features land after that, just bug fixes | 19:41 |
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| NobodyCam | ya | 19:41 |
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| * NobodyCam recalls some nova bm bugs that may have been questionable when landing that code | 19:42 | |
| matty_dubs | So maybe it's just me (and note that I'm not tackling anything major so I don't have a strong opinion), but it seems like "We're reluctant to accept patches adding new features after the 21st, but to be sure your patch has time to be reviewed, you should look at posting it by the 18th" or something is reasonable, without needing a lot of thought on hard deadlines. | 19:42 |
| devananda | matty_dubs: s/21st/march 6th/ | 19:43 |
| * NobodyCam lost the agenda :-p | 19:44 | |
| rloo | devananda: i thought after march 6, no new features. | 19:44 |
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| devananda | rloo: right :) | 19:44 |
| devananda | rloo: so new features should be posted by 2/18 to give us time to review | 19:44 |
| rloo | so matty_dubs comment 'We're reluctant to accept patches adding new features after March 6' isn't right? | 19:44 |
| matty_dubs | Oh, I just meant a soft deadline, as discussed above -- 18th as the "do yourself a favor and get your patches in" mark, the 21st as a "we'll frown upon feature submissions after this because it's cutting it close", and March 6 as the "Nope!" hard deadline. | 19:45 |
| devananda | ahh | 19:45 |
| rloo | matty_dubs. no 21 I don't think? Seems like there are two dates, Feb 18 and March 6? | 19:45 |
| devananda | matty_dubs: i guess i dont see much difference between "d oyourself a favor" and "we'll frown" :) | 19:45 |
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| matty_dubs | Sure, that works. My point was really just that I think we've spent a lot of time debating 18th vs. 21st but if it's not a hard cutoff, I'm not sure there's a huge difference between them. | 19:46 |
| rloo | and just a nit, but I don't think it is March 6. Isn't there a code freeze 2 days before? | 19:46 |
| lucasagomes | ok folks... so priorities (what is needed for us to get out of incubation): nova bm migration, neutron integration for pxe and console access (something else?) | 19:46 |
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| lucasagomes | and the ironic driver for nova | 19:46 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/icehouse-3 | 19:47 |
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| devananda | rloo: ah, you're right -- https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule. I got 3/6 from launchpad as the date it's released, but the branch is tagged 2 days ahead | 19:47 |
| NobodyCam | nova isn't actually graduation requirment is it? | 19:47 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: correct | 19:48 |
| lucasagomes | ack | 19:48 |
| NobodyCam | but nice to have! | 19:48 |
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| devananda | for one, we can't control whether nova accepts our driver. for another, as an incubated project, it's quite reasonable for nova not to accpet it before we graduate | 19:48 |
| NobodyCam | that beggs the question is the nova bm migration path / script a requirment then? | 19:49 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: good point -- that may be a more reasonable requirement for the Juno release, then | 19:49 |
| devananda | I'll bring that up tomorrow | 19:50 |
| rloo | what does it mean to 'graduate' then? | 19:50 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yea, cause that bp is marked as essential, maybe it should go for high or medium then | 19:50 |
| devananda | rloo: to become part of the integrated development cycle | 19:50 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: yea. i'll update it after I confirm | 19:50 |
| lucasagomes | ack | 19:50 |
| rloo | devananda. ah, thx for clarifying. | 19:50 |
| lucasagomes | neutron integration any news? | 19:50 |
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| devananda | rloo: some of the details around graduation have only recently really been hashed out by the TC and codified | 19:51 |
| NobodyCam | TEN MINUTE BELL | 19:51 |
| lucasagomes | I tried it last week on friday, but didn't get it to work | 19:51 |
| rloo | devananda. so that is diff from the goal of ironic being able to 'replace' baremetal. | 19:51 |
| lucasagomes | I'll give it another shot tomorrow, any one has any tips? | 19:51 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: hmm... ok. i was about to ask what's stopping that from landing | 19:51 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: i need to give it a whirl soon too | 19:51 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: did you get the PXE->neutron patch working? | 19:51 |
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| lucasagomes | all I did was cherry picking #70468 on top of my ironic and tested | 19:52 |
| NobodyCam | no.. but did not do any work over hte weekend | 19:52 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, ack | 19:52 |
| lucasagomes | maybe it's my env as well, cause it's a bit messy I will retry tomorrow with a new env and all | 19:52 |
| lucasagomes | I let u know | 19:52 |
| lucasagomes | console access, anyone has any updates on it? | 19:52 |
| devananda | none here | 19:53 |
| lucasagomes | we need a trigger on the API to start/stop the console | 19:53 |
| lucasagomes | I will try to add that soon | 19:53 |
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| lucasagomes | but we also need to test sun jings patchs | 19:53 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: and we'll need to expose some info back to the client | 19:53 |
| devananda | about how to access the console itself | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | I have not seen linaggo on | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | has anyone?^^ | 19:53 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, nop :( | 19:54 |
| devananda | not i | 19:54 |
| devananda | neither sunjing nor linggao | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, ack, I will see how nova does it | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | and make something similar for ironic | 19:54 |
| Wanyen | Has console code been merged yet? | 19:54 |
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| devananda | Wanyen: no. IBM put patches up | 19:54 |
| devananda | Wanyen: but they were not updated after receiving feedback | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64100/ | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | that's the console patch | 19:55 |
| lucasagomes | it's abandoned :/ | 19:55 |
| Wanyen | Thanks! | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | Ty lucasagomes | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | 5 minutes | 19:55 |
| max_lobur | lifeless: r u around? | 19:55 |
| devananda | going to toss up a few actions from all that... | 19:55 |
| devananda | #action devananda to check with TC regarding graduation requirement for the nova driver and nova_bm db migrations | 19:56 |
| Wanyen | Imeant thanks for providig the link for console code. | 19:56 |
| lucasagomes | haomeng2, any news on the sending ipmi data back to ceilometer? | 19:56 |
| devananda | #action lucasagomes to add API for start/stop console && GET console endpoint info (how does nova expose this?) | 19:57 |
| devananda | #action people to test the PXE driver -> Neutron integration patch and figure out if/why it's not working | 19:57 |
| lucasagomes | Wanyen, you welcome | 19:57 |
| devananda | ok... last 2 minutes .... | 19:57 |
| devananda | #topic open discussion | 19:57 |
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| lucasagomes | quick topic on the open discussion | 19:57 |
| lucasagomes | about the objects/base.py | 19:57 |
| lucasagomes | there's a couple of patches changing it slightly (it means diverging from nova) | 19:58 |
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| lucasagomes | should we go for it in Ironic? | 19:58 |
| lucasagomes | I'm always confusing when reviewing such patches | 19:58 |
| lucasagomes | confused* | 19:58 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: that hasn't made it into oslo afaik | 19:58 |
| lucasagomes | yea not yet | 19:58 |
| max_lobur | for instance? | 19:58 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: what are the changes? do we need them? | 19:58 |
| max_lobur | get rid of dict iface? | 19:59 |
| lucasagomes | max_lobur, e.g https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60025/ | 19:59 |
| devananda | ahh | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | ONE minute | 19:59 |
| max_lobur | ah yup | 19:59 |
| lucasagomes | well, we don't "need" it | 19:59 |
| max_lobur | let's continue in ironic | 19:59 |
| lucasagomes | ack | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | ++ | 19:59 |
| Haomeng | :) | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | great meeting every one | 19:59 |
| Wanyen | when is the ronic channel? | 19:59 |
| devananda | thanks all! | 19:59 |
| max_lobur | thanks everyone | 20:00 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 10 20:00:03 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-02-10-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-02-10-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-02-10-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
| devananda | Wanyen: join #openstack-ironic | 20:00 |
| lucasagomes | Wanyen, heh now at #openstack-ironic | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | Wanyen: #openstack-ironic | 20:00 |
| devananda | we're there all the time :) | 20:00 |
| Haomeng | Wanyen: #openstack-ironic | 20:00 |
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| lucasagomes | heh devananda +! | 20:00 |
| lucasagomes | +1* | 20:00 |
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| markmcclain | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/026574.html | 21:33 |
| carl_baldwin | The rest is in my report on the agenda. | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | carl_baldwin: thanks for the udpate | 21:33 |
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| carl_baldwin | Thank you for that link. | 21:33 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'll post on the agenda. | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | #topic IPv6 | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | sc68cal: hi | 21:33 |
| sc68cal | hello | 21:33 |
| sc68cal | We're still looking for core reviewers from Nova to circle back to the VIF hairpinning fix. In the meantime, we did get a fix for the threading issue. So nobody will get ground up by the gate for using utils.is_neutron() | 21:34 |
| sc68cal | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56381/ IPv6 - Nova Hairpin Bug | 21:34 |
| sc68cal | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1274992 is_neutron race fix | 21:34 |
| sc68cal | +1's are appreciated. :) | 21:34 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1274992 in nova "Utils.is_neutron can create race conditions" [Medium,In progress] | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | sc68cal: ok.. I'm at the Nova mid-cycle meetup this week | 21:34 |
| sc68cal | very cool | 21:34 |
| sc68cal | In addition - we have a big writeup from Anthony Veiga about how to validate the two ipv6 attributes we're adding to Neutron. | 21:34 |
| sc68cal | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/026792.html Anthony Veiga - Validating Adressing and Routing Configuration | 21:34 |
| sc68cal | feedback is always appreciated | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:35 |
| sc68cal | We've got two patches, one adding the attributes to the API and DB, and a patch from shshang that drives Dnsmasq with the new attributes | 21:35 |
| sc68cal | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/ipv6-two-attributes,n,z | 21:35 |
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| sc68cal | I have to rebase the alembic scripts to make jenkins happy again | 21:36 |
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| sc68cal | that's all for me. | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | yeah…chasing alembic this time of year is always a challenge | 21:36 |
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| markmcclain | I'll take a look at the reviews | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | thanks for the update | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | #topic ML2 | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | mestery, rkukura: hi | 21:36 |
| rkukura | hi | 21:36 |
| mestery | hi | 21:37 |
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| rkukura | one high priority BP for which we have no patch yet: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ml2-deprecated-plugin-migration | 21:37 |
| rkukura | Is Prakash Ramchandran around? | 21:37 |
| markmcclain | I guess he's not here | 21:38 |
| rkukura | Seems we may need a volunteer to help out on or take over implementing a simple DB migration tool. | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | I forgot what's the plan for ovs and lb for icehouse? deprecation or elimination? | 21:38 |
| mestery | Lets reach out to him on the mailing list and give him a chance maybe rkukura? | 21:39 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: deprecated I believe | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | both the linuxbridge and OVS plugins are deprecation | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | but we cannot eliminate them until we have a solid migration plan | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: thanks. That's just because this blueprint is a requirement towards elimination and appears to be a bit at risk now. | 21:40 |
| rkukura | mestery: Lets get this on Wednesdays agenda and try to get Prakash to attend. | 21:40 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Yup, agreed. | 21:40 |
| mestery | rkukura: OK, lets do that. | 21:40 |
| mestery | If we don't get a response, we'll need to reassign this one ASAP. | 21:40 |
| rkukura | Quite a bit of work is going on in ML2 to support SR-IOV PCI passthrough | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | if we don't have significant movement by the end of this week we'll need to discuss how to get this done | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | I'd prefer not to do this during the feature-freeze since we will not get enough testing | 21:41 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: I'd say by Wednesday, not end of this week | 21:41 |
| mestery | markmcclain: Agreed. | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | ok.. the subteam can sort it out | 21:41 |
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| markmcclain | rkukura: we a patch in flight for SR-IOV right? | 21:42 |
| rkukura | Initial patches for two SR-IOV related BPs are in review | 21:42 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:42 |
| rkukura | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72334/ is for a new binding:vnic_type attribute on port to specify the kind of NIC the VM wants | 21:43 |
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| rkukura | And https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72452/ is for sending data from the bound MechanismDriver to nova's VIF driver | 21:44 |
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| mestery | rkukura: I am inclined to approve the second one, that one has gone through lots of discussions. | 21:44 |
| rkukura | The 2nd is also intended for use for VIF security details | 21:45 |
| mestery | rkukura: Another reason to approve it frankly, we need that one. | 21:45 |
| rkukura | One more patch coming soon will implement binding:profile for ML2 | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: can you help review 72452? | 21:45 |
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| salv-orlando | yeah I can. What should I say if I find the change to be backward incompatible? | 21:46 |
| salv-orlando | has that been agreed to be ok? | 21:46 |
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| salv-orlando | so we save a review cycle ;) | 21:46 |
| nati_uen_ | binding:capabilities isn't used anywhere | 21:46 |
| rkukura | The other significant change for driver writes is being discussed in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/026344.html | 21:46 |
| nati_uen_ | so backward incompatible should be ok | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | we just need to make sure how we document how rolling updates should work | 21:47 |
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| markmcclain | Anything else to discuss about ML2? | 21:48 |
| rkukura | There are quite a few more BPs and bug fixes in the works for the ML2 plugin itself, as well as new mechanism drivers | 21:48 |
| rkukura | These are being actively discussed/tracked at the Wednesday meetings | 21:48 |
| rkukura | That's it for me | 21:48 |
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| mestery | It would be great to get a representative from each one to attend the weekly meeting! | 21:48 |
| mestery | ML2 meeting that is. | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | agreed driver reps should attend the ml2 meetings | 21:49 |
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| markmcclain | rkukura, mestery: thanks for updating | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | #topic Group Policy | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | mestery: want to update real quick? | 21:49 |
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| mestery | Hi. I will be brief here given the time remaining today. | 21:50 |
| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy Group Policy Meeting | 21:50 |
| mestery | I want to point out we have weekly meetings on this, and are proceeding with a PoC implementation now. | 21:50 |
| mestery | We hope to have the APIs done by later this week. | 21:50 |
| mestery | markmcclain: Yes | 21:50 |
| mestery | One more thing: | 21:50 |
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| mestery | I wanted to point out this work is meant to align closely with the matching Policy work in OpenDaylight. | 21:50 |
| mestery | Please attend our meeting for me info. | 21:50 |
| mestery | That's it markmcclain. | 21:50 |
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| markmcclain | mestery: this is interesting work…thanks for updating | 21:51 |
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| markmcclain | I think both VPN and FW are the same as last week | 21:51 |
| enikanorov | i'd like to update on lbaas | 21:51 |
| nati_uen_ | markmcclain: yes. We will have agent patch till 2/17 | 21:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: yes on FWaaS | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | #topic LBaaS | 21:52 |
| enikanorov | hi | 21:52 |
| enikanorov | lbaas subteam has 3 major items we work on: loadbalancer instance, l7 rules, ssl | 21:52 |
| enikanorov | the first item (lb instance) has a line of patches: introducing API/DB and adoption for haproxy provider. | 21:52 |
| enikanorov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60207 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71472/ | 21:52 |
| enikanorov | Support in horizon and API test coverage in tempest are on the way. | 21:52 |
| enikanorov | Also it's a baseline for l7 work. So core team, please take a look at lbaas instance patches. | 21:53 |
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| enikanorov | i'm also planning to to push 'multiple vips per pool' blueprint implementation soon, since it was approved long ago, | 21:53 |
| enikanorov | that one also based on lb instance work | 21:53 |
| enikanorov | on other items | 21:53 |
| enikanorov | work on L7 is in progress. | 21:53 |
| enikanorov | SSL is progressing as well. I would like more folks to look at the spec https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/SSL | 21:53 |
| enikanorov | According to the spec it's a quite big feature (complex workflow), so if someone has ideas on how to split implementation to consistent steps I'd appreciate that. | 21:54 |
| enikanorov | nati_uen_: would you be interested? | 21:54 |
| enikanorov | in looking into ssl | 21:54 |
| nati_uen_ | enikanorov: sure | 21:54 |
| enikanorov | thanks | 21:54 |
| enikanorov | that's it from my side | 21:54 |
| pcm_ | Would like to see core reviews of Service Type Framework for VPN (sorry for nagging) | 21:54 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov: we can chat in the subteam meeting this week, but based on reviews and mailing list chatter I'm not sure there is solid support for the loadbalancer instance | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov: also aren't we a bit late in the cycle to be throwing together code for SSL? | 21:55 |
| enikanorov | markmcclain: sure. I'll be happy to discuss it once again! | 21:55 |
| enikanorov | markmcclain: yes, i don't think we'll be pushing it for I-3 | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | the deadline is 8 days away and I think everyone agreed there are security considerations which must be done properly | 21:56 |
| enikanorov | markmcclain: agree | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | tight deadlines and security don't mix very well | 21:56 |
| enikanorov | so it's work in no rush for the next release | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | pcm_: | 21:57 |
| pcm_ | markmcclain: yes | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | pcm_: we'll see if we can get more reviews on the proposal | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | in the final 3 minutes | 21:57 |
| pcm_ | markmcclain: thanks! | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | #topic 3rd Party testing | 21:57 |
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| markmcclain | A few you have had you test system's right to vote revoked by the infra team | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | they will re-enable will when they get the ok from me | 21:58 |
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| markmcclain | in general once the right gets revoked, I prefer to see the system comment | 21:58 |
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| markmcclain | and produce a reliable track of good commenting before voting is enabled | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | *re-enabled | 21:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmacclain: i thought we were not supposed to vote -1? | 21:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | only +1? | 21:59 |
| markmcclain | SumitNaiksatam: that is preferred | 21:59 |
| markmcclain | but some systems were commenting hundreds of times | 21:59 |
| markmcclain | or voting incorrectly | 21:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: ah ok | 21:59 |
| enikanorov | these 3rd party testing systems basically killed meaningfull notifications from gerrit :\ (even if they vote correctly) | 22:00 |
| mestery | The increase in gerrit email is pretty amazing frankly. | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | yes in general the systems should not be commenting that they are starting runs | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | that generates comment noise | 22:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov: i agree, there is a deluge of messages, if we have separate tabs that will be better (in gerrit) | 22:01 |
| anteaya | new systems will not have voting enabled by default: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/commit/?id=38a3113027cebc1d8b63e2a9991ff3572f74492c | 22:01 |
| salv-orlando | I think vmware minesweeper had a problem too on friday, but it's sorted now. | 22:01 |
| anteaya | they have to earn it | 22:01 |
| enikanorov | i'm mostly concerned about email threads and filtering... | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | anteaya: right but there were several that were given account under the old rules | 22:01 |
| anteaya | yes | 22:01 |
| armax | the failure was affecting other openstack projects | 22:02 |
| anteaya | just identifying the change | 22:02 |
| armax | that did not used a pip cache | 22:02 |
| markmcclain | Ok… we're over time for this week | 22:02 |
| armax | sorry about that | 22:02 |
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| markmcclain | talk to everyone on IRC and mailing list | 22:02 |
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| markmcclain | Thanks for stopping in | 22:02 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:02 |
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| nati_uen_ | bye! | 22:03 |
| mestery | bye folks! | 22:03 |
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