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znsFirst Satori (Configuration Discovery) team meeting starting on #openstack-meeting-alt in a few minutes.14:57
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johnthetubaguy1dansmith: lots of −2s on some of the patches for this: what is the story their, I lost track I think15:17
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dansmithjohnthetubaguy1: I see one -215:29
dansmithjohnthetubaguy1: can you shoot me a gerrit link?15:29
johnthetubaguy1dansmith: maybe it was just one, it was about the FFE, I think you said it hadn't been granted one, I don't remember the details, just wondered if you did15:30
johnthetubaguy1dansmith: just wondering if we should −2 the other ones, or un −2 the one you have −2ed15:30
dansmithjohnthetubaguy1: hmm, I don't think I remember discussing instance groups in that conversation15:30
dansmithjohnthetubaguy1: that -2 is from pre-havana :)15:31
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johnthetubaguyoh right, I see now15:32
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johnthetubaguymind you, I will −2 the v3 patch, to be consistent15:33
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dansmithjohnthetubaguy: perhaps we should be discussing in -nova? :)15:34
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johnthetubaguyoops, I thought I was in -nova, my brian is fried15:37
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rakhmerov#startmeeting Mistral16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb 24 16:00:09 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'mistral'16:00
rakhmerovhi guys16:00
rakhmerovhi Dmitry, how are you?16:00
dzimineback n kicking, I was time-constrained last week, but will have more time to be on Mistral this week.16:01
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rakhmerovok, good16:01
rakhmerovis there anyone else here?16:02
rakhmerovcan we start something? :)16:02
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rakhmerovok, let's review action items quickly16:03
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rakhmerov#topic Previous Action Items16:03
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rakhmerov1.  Manas, summarize all ideas on std:repeater ( and start a discussion with the team16:03
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rakhmerov#info here is the etherpad where he's done it16:04
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rakhmerovand he keeps thinking on it as far as I'm aware of16:04
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rakhmerovI also looked at this etherpad carefully and mostly it looks reasonable to me, I left my comments16:05
rakhmerovhi Kirill!16:05
rakhmerovenykeev - is our new member16:05
rakhmerovas of today16:05
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rakhmerovenykeev, welcome to the team!16:06
enykeevthanks =)16:06
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tnurlygayanovHi there )16:06
rakhmerovhi Timur16:06
rakhmerovSo back to the action item. I suggest we postpone the implementation for 2-3 days till we merge ongoing changes in engine16:07
rakhmerovit doesn't make sense to start this task before that since it really affects lots of things in engine16:07
dzimineall implementations, or any specific?16:07
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rakhmerovI mean what Manas is doing16:08
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rakhmerovand one more thing. After the closer look at this I started thinking that it may make sense to introduce keywords representing control flow constructions like this16:09
rakhmerovthe reason is simple: engine must be aware of them so they are not usual tasks and they must be processed in a special way16:09
rakhmerovso we may not want to limit ourselves in how we define them in DSL16:10
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rakhmerovanyway, nmakhotkin, tnurlygayanov pls take a look at this etherpad and let's start the discussion on it.16:10
rakhmerovremember we're not limited by the initial requirements16:11
rakhmerovso you should feel free to propose any ideas16:11
rakhmerovbut at the same time we need to move forward with the implementation so we need to think quickly :)16:12
rakhmerov2.Timur, create a simple web app in python that can serve one request (e.g. calculator)16:12
rakhmerovthis one is waiting to be reviewed16:12
rakhmerovit's a very simple app in Flask that implements "sum" function as an HTTP endpoint16:13
rakhmerovmost likely we will use it for the Demo16:13
rakhmerov3. Renat, check availability of all the team members and make sure we have overlapping hours with people in the US16:14
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tnurlygayanovcan you please share the link?16:14
nmakhotkinI've looked at it16:14
tnurlygayanovok, I can do this )
tnurlygayanovis it correct link?16:14
tnurlygayanovyes, application was created.16:14
tnurlygayanovneed review
rakhmerovooh, something is wrong with my IRC client16:14
rakhmerovI can't see any incoming messages for a couple of minutes and then they arrive in a batch16:15
rakhmerovyes, tnurlygayanov, thanks16:15
rakhmerovso as for availability16:15
rakhmerovthis one is not done since last week was pretty bad for us, I was sick for a couple of days and nmakhotkin was sick too16:16
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rakhmerovso we can figure out our availability right now :)16:16
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tnurlygayanov) ok16:16
rakhmerovok, let's use PST time zone (msk -12)16:17
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rakhmerovtnurlygayanov, what are your usual business hours?16:17
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rakhmerovand can you guys all write yours16:18
tnurlygayanov11-19 by Moscow time16:19
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rakhmerov#info Renat's availability: 6pm - 3am (sometimes longer)16:19
rakhmerov#info Timur's availability: 11pm - 7am16:20
nmakhotkinAs for me - 12 - 20 MSK16:20
enykeevmine is pretty much the same, 5pm - 3am16:20
tnurlygayanovPST: 11:00 PM - 7:00 AM16:20
rakhmerov#info Nikolay's availability: 12am - 8am16:20
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tnurlygayanovок )16:21
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rakhmerov#info Kirill's availability: 5pm - 3am16:21
dzimine#info Dmitri's availability - any  7-23 on request, usual 7-8 am and 16 to 20 pm, but can make till 24 pm when needed.16:21
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rakhmerovyes, I noticed you work 24 hr/day :)16:22
dzimineno, i am "available" 24 hours != "work" :)16:22
rakhmerovok, so guys, please try to be at #openstack-mistral during your work hours please so that we can discuss something16:22
rakhmerovdzimine, sure, just kidding :)16:22
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rakhmerov#topic Current status16:23
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rakhmerovso, as I said we were sick significant time last week16:24
rakhmerovhowever we sent several patches for review16:24
rakhmerovI'm now working on Data Flow prototype and hoping to finish it tomorrow16:24
rakhmerovI already sent two patches related to it last week and the third is on its way16:25
rakhmerovNikolay finished changes related with direct transitions and his patch has landed16:25
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rakhmerovso we're moving forward and hopefully early next week we'll get most of the required things done16:26
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rakhmerovwe are still mostly following this etherpad:
rakhmerovbut not 100% already16:27
rakhmerovwhich is fine16:27
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rakhmerovwe still have lots of things to discuss on DSL and overall design. But we need to do it in parallel with development16:28
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dzimineRenat do we need email task as part of POC?16:28
rakhmerovwell, I thought it would be cool to have it16:29
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dzimineif so, we'll need 1) add it to mistral extra DSL and 2) run the smtp server somewhere.16:29
rakhmerovit's done, isn't it?16:29
rakhmerovooh, yes, I see what you're saying16:29
dziminee.g., make it part of the 'client' application, so that it receives and logs the email16:30
dzimineas for "done" - not to production, no, but demonstrable.16:30
dzimineSo I can work on this.16:30
rakhmerov#action Add using "email" action into the example and run smtp server (e.g. as a part of the client application)16:31
rakhmerovok, sure16:31
rakhmerovit's your thing16:31
dzimineThis is called as a work item on the blueprint already.16:31
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dzimineThus I don't mark blueprint complete. For details you can always check what is between now and DONE at the blueprint work items.16:32
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rakhmerovbtw, guys, can you please advise when we consider a blueprint done and can mark it correspondingly?16:33
dzimineThe sucky part is we'll need to define a 'service' in DSL for email even though it's a standard task but ok for now16:33
rakhmerovfrom your experience with OpenStack16:33
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rakhmerovdzimine, totally agree with you, it's a sucky part :) I think we discussed before that we can make DSL more flexible in this regard16:34
rakhmerovso that we can skip "service" declaration if it's something simple to configure16:34
dzimineyes we did discuss it let's just postpone this and return past POC.16:35
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rakhmerovso from my side I don't have anything specific left to discuss for now16:35
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dziminediscuss design prior to implementation?16:36
dziminewe / you are sort of doing it already.16:36
dzimineJust wonder how can we do it better.16:36
dzimineCase 1) Renat, your changes - I haven't found any thing on them but assume you and Nicolay have talked about it.16:36
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dziminecase 2) Winson changes: again, hard to review when we don't know where he is going with it.16:37
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dzimineSolution 1) write a spec16:37
dzimineproblem: too slow.16:37
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dzimineSolution 2) have a discussion16:37
rakhmerovwhy is it too slow?16:37
dzimineproblems: exclusive - not everyone can participate, time overlap is a problem16:38
dzimineWriting a spec is not slow, discussing it may be.16:38
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dzimineI am not saying "NO", to it, just calling out the problems :)16:38
rakhmerovI see16:38
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rakhmerovwell, I think we should use ML more intensively16:39
rakhmerovfirst of all16:39
rakhmerovI know you may have gotten sick of these words already (because I keep repeating it all the time)16:39
rakhmerovbut I really mean that16:39
rakhmerovand we already started doing it but it's not enough IMO16:39
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dzimineMy suggestion: 1) do write a spec (any form, etherpad may be ok) and 2) if it's non-trivial, call a meeting to discuss it, in the overlap time, and who wants to join and can join, joins16:40
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dzimineRE: openstack-dev - yes, this is not a replacement for specs, but we can use it to share and point to specs, and discuss it.16:40
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dzimineso what do you think of spec/meeting combo?16:41
rakhmerovI meant that we can use ML to discuss specs16:41
rakhmerovcombo :)16:41
rakhmerovyes, we can try this16:41
dzimineand yes we can and should use openstack-dev to discuss the spec, so it will be 1-2-3 (renat, for you ;-))16:42
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dzimine1) spec 2) meeting 3) summary and follow-up on openstack-dev16:42
rakhmerovbut, Dmitri, I think we can do it not very frequently, we already have tons of meetings every day (life is life)16:42
dziminesure, but big ideas like data flow don't come very frequently either ;)16:43
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dziminewe have one big change a week, we may make time/16:43
rakhmerovso I think 1-2 times a week it may be feasible but not more often16:43
dziminewhat are others think about it?16:43
rakhmerovwell, I agree, let's try this16:43
dzimineyes you're right, renat, it's hard to stick more than 2 extra meetings into the week.16:43
dziminebut again, hopefully not everyone needs to be on each.16:44
dzimineNicolay, Timur, what you say?16:44
rakhmerovdunno, I would like everyone to participate in the most important design decisions16:44
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rakhmerovtnurlygayanov, nmakhotkin?16:45
rakhmerovthey might have gone to bed :)16:46
dzimineyes, and with #3 follow-up on openstack-dev everyone will, even if he/she missed the meeting.16:46
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rakhmerovdzimine, ok16:46
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rakhmerovdzimine, let me discuss that with Nikolay and Timur tomorrow. I believe they left for today (busy with something else)16:47
rakhmerovbut generally yes, we need to do this16:47
rakhmerovfrom my side, I'm ready16:47
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rakhmerovis there anything else to discuss today? I didn't plan anything certain16:48
rakhmerovwe can finish at this point unless you have anything else16:48
rakhmerovooh, btw, enykeev, do you have any questions/comments?16:49
rakhmerovwe only have 10 mins16:49
rakhmerovbut we're in the same timezone so we can chat through the day16:50
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rakhmerovok, let's finish then?16:51
rakhmerovok, thanks to everyone for joining today16:51
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dzimineok, anything else? time to go to bed?16:55
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nmakhotkinLooks good to do one extra meeting, but I don't sure I'll always be on it16:55
dzimineit's not recurrent, but -on-demand.16:55
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dziminenext logical one when Manas will discuss the repeater.16:56
dziminebut if his spec is good we may not need one ;0)16:56
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sarobTraining crew online?17:06
smemon92Hi sarob17:06
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smemon92sarb, I am here for training meeting17:08
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NobodyCam#startmeeting Ironic19:00
NobodyCam#chair devananda19:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb 24 19:00:11 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
NobodyCamWelcome everyone to the Ironic meeting.19:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ironic)"19:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic'19:00
openstackCurrent chairs: NobodyCam devananda19:00
devanandahi all!19:00
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matty_dubsAhoy! o/19:00
NobodyCamWho's here for hte meeting19:00
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NobodyCamOf course the agenda can be found at:19:00
NobodyCam#topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements19:01
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NobodyCamWelcome all!19:01
NobodyCamNova driver is currently blocked19:01
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NobodyCamwe Need to have everything in place for us to graduate, While we are blocked this does not mean we can not graduate19:03
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NobodyCamjust letting us know we are currently not ready to19:03
devanandaThe nova team has pushed the deprecate-baremetal-driver BP out to Juno, and said that they won't even start reviewing the driver code until we have functional & integration testing with devstack & tempest19:03
k4n0can someone list out the blockers? I can help out19:03
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ifarkask4n0, I think it's this patch:
devanandak4n0: at a high level, we're blocked on devstack support19:04
NobodyCam#link #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements19:04
devanandaifarkas: yep, that's one of them19:05
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devanandaonce we have devstack into a state where it can prepare the environment19:05
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devananda(create a net bridge, some VMs, enroll them in ironic, etc)19:05
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NobodyCamwe have had some really good progress over this last weekend!19:06
NobodyCammax_lobur: and at least one other have gotten neutron work!19:06
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devanandathen I should be able to create an infra job that runs tempest against devstack with nova.virt.ironic.IronicDriver instead of nova.virt.libvirt.LibvirtDriver19:06
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devanandaand run that as an experimental job against the Nova driver patch series ...19:06
devanandaagordeev said in channel this morning taht he had solved the networking issue we've been running into19:07
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NobodyCammax_lobur: did I read you also got it working?19:07
devanandaI haven't seen the changes that make this happen yet, but will test agordeev's patch later today19:08
max_loburyep, I helped to overcome neutron19:08
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devanandamax_lobur: can you summarize what was fixed?19:08
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max_loburvms rolled by devstack now should be able to get IP from neutron dhcp server19:08
devanandaahh! great19:09
max_loburthis was our main problem19:09
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NobodyCammax_lobur: where was the hart of the bug that stopped us b4?19:09
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devanandaPXE driver was correctly settingthe dhcp boot options last week, but in my tests VMs weren't getting IPs. so yea, taht sounds like you guys got it19:09
max_loburthere were a few problems19:10
max_lobur1st - we did not tagged our traffic19:10
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max_lobur2nd we did not registered ports for our vms in neutron19:10
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max_lobur* I mean VLAN tags19:10
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max_loburseems that's all :)19:11
NobodyCamahh will we be seeing a patch for that soon?19:11
NobodyCamand great work !!!!19:11
max_loburI thought agordeev already included this, though I did not look yet19:12
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max_loburand did not test within devstack19:12
devanandalooks like it's there19:12
NobodyCamperfect :) w00t19:12
devanandathough there are a lot of hard-coded IPs and #FIXEM's :(19:12
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NobodyCamwe can fix that19:12
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devanandas/a lot/some/19:13
devanandayea, let's iterate on taht today19:13
lucasagomeswhen i was testing it, I added the ports and all, but the a neutron port-show command showed that port status as DOWN :(19:13
NobodyCamthis leads us to:19:13
lucasagomesit was before the changes today19:13
NobodyCam#topic I-3 Planning19:13
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devanandaanother thing blocking us -- just the length of the review queue itself. there are some large'ish patches up there that we need to merge soon19:13
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devanandalucasagomes: i haven't figured out why the ports are DOWN either yet19:14
max_loburlucasagomes: hmm, I did not even look to the status, I think it's ok with any status. Also I remember some issues in neutron led to incorrect status19:14
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max_loburbut this was in grizzly19:14
lucasagomesright, yeah I will give it a go again tomorrow with the new changes19:14
max_loburmaybe they still there19:14
devanandaso, I3 milestone will be tagged next week19:15
NobodyCamdevananda: lucasagomes does the nova driver need to turn up the Neutron port when it attaches it to the nodes port19:15
devanandawe should be aiming to land any remaining major features this week -- eg, console support, pxe driver timeouts, etc19:15
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devanandaI'd like to land the NodeManager refactoring as well, if folks feel that it's ready19:16
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lucasagomesNobodyCam, I think not the nova driver, it should be part of the _update_neutron() call in Ironic I bet19:16
NobodyCamwe missed our review jam this morning... maybe tomorrow morning?19:16
max_loburneed to rebase my threading patch for vendor passthru19:16
max_loburI'll do these days19:16
devanandaI will toss up a quick patch to finish today19:16
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romchegNobodyCam: +119:16
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devanandathere's already sync_power_state, but instead of just updating the DB, it needs to respect waht's in the DB19:17
NobodyCamlucasagomes: ya that sounds better to me19:17
devanandaand I think we can mark as completed now19:17
devanandasince many of us have confirmed that neutron dhcp-extra-opts are being set19:17
max_loburI'm not sure about tomorrow, but will update review doc with tested patches as match as possible19:17
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max_lobur*as much19:18
NobodyCamdevananda: with agordeev's patch? or with out19:18
devanandaNobodyCam: I'm up for a review jam tmw morning, fwiw19:18
devanandaNobodyCam: with agordeev's devstack patch -- but taht's just setting up the ENV19:18
lucasagomesNobodyCam, yeah review jam tomorrow seems fine for me as well19:18
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devanandaNobodyCam: I meant the the add-neutron-support BP for Ironic is complete19:19
lucasagomesdevananda, before marking it as complete, let's try the devstack patch first19:19
NobodyCamdevananda: ahh ack +119:19
NobodyCamlucasagomes: neutron is getting setup19:20
devanandalucasagomes: what i mean is, ironic is correctly configuring neutron's dhcp opts, if neutron is present19:20
NobodyCamI think we can call it done as this is a env on / off issue19:20
devanandawe probably need to improve handling around errors, etc19:20
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NobodyCamdevananda: +1 in lots of places19:20
devanandaand refactor it so that PXE driver doesn't depend on neutron (eg, add a thin abstraction and allow it to work with other DHCP services)19:20
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NobodyCamdevananda: for graduation or in the J cycle?19:21
NobodyCam^^ for refactor19:21
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devanandaNobodyCam: J19:22
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NobodyCamthen +119:22
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NobodyCamook so that brings me to :19:22
devanandaso we also still have a lot of HIGH bugs marked as Needs Review and targetd to I319:23
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devanandaI'd like to see us focus on those too :)19:23
devananda(i know, focus in a dozen places is not really focusing..)19:23
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NobodyCamdevananda: how about the first 15 - 30 minutes for review jam is also used for bug jamming19:23
devanandaNobodyCam: ++19:24
wanyenI would like to give an update on iLO driver  We submitted a new patch set today, please review and provide comments. Thanks!19:24
max_lobur look already fixed for example19:24
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lucasagomesNobodyCam, +119:24
NobodyCamHi wanyen, can you hold that for open Discussion19:24
NobodyCam#toipc code cleanup19:25
NobodyCam"with mock" vs "@mock" & "node['property']" vs ""19:25
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devanandaNobodyCam: typo :p19:25
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devananda#topic code cleanup19:25
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NobodyCam#topic code cleanup19:25
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NobodyCamlucasagomes: was the mock vs @mock yours19:26
devanandaright, so there are some large patches doing code cleanup, and some large patches making functional changes19:26
max_lobur"with mock" vs "@mock" & "node['property']" vs "" - vote up!19:26
lucasagomeswas? not really, I used @mock in the nova ironic volume driver tho19:26
lucasagomesit's useful and cleaner19:26
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lucasagomesI don't see there's a mock vs @mock here19:26
lucasagomesif we want to mock an attribute of a class we still need to use "with mock"19:27
romchegor change mocks inside the test19:27
devanandaI agree, @mock is pretty clean, and the patch changing it looks reasonably small19:27
NobodyCamI like the idea of both of these thing, standardizing code and clean up.. but we are up agenst the wall ATM and I feel these are better addressed post I release19:27
devanandayea... and I didn't follow up from last meeting. sorry about that, guys19:28
devanandai'll do that right after this meeting19:28
lucasagomesNobodyCam, +119:28
k4n0NobodyCam, +119:28
devanandaNobodyCam: want to action me?19:28
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max_lobur+1 for any way to cut the review queue :)19:29
NobodyCamdevananda: same action you where going to -2 some reviews to clean the queue up19:29
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NobodyCamI think we all agreed thats a good thing at this point19:30
NobodyCam#action devananda to -2 reviews that should be held until after IceHouse is cut19:31
lucasagomesabout the node['property'] vs, I suggest we to follow markmc's comments at (Patchset #13)19:31
NobodyCamtoo many windows19:31
devanandaromcheg, max_lobur, NobodyCam, lucasagomes - what about vendor drivers? any of you at this point have time to work on those?19:31
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NobodyCamI have started looking at the Ilo driver but not the SeaMicro yet19:32
devanandalucasagomes: yes - I agree that we need to follow markmc's comment there as far as the object base class goes19:32
devananda#topic vendor drivers19:33
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romchegdevananda: I think ilo driver would be easier to review if it was splited onto smaller patches19:33
romchegbut I also started looking on it19:33
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max_loburdevananda: you mean to review them?19:33
lucasagomesdevananda, I think we should review the vendor drivers, because although we don't need it for graduation they are using our vendor_passthru interface and finding the gaps within it19:33
romchegI left the same comment inline19:33
lucasagomeswhich is good for a design point of view19:33
max_loburI can spend some time if there are no other urgent things19:33
max_loburand will definitely review them this weekend19:34
lucasagomeslike the MultipleVendorInterface19:34
devanandamax_lobur: yea. at least to provide feedback to the developers and, as lucasagomes points out, see what they are needing from the common code19:34
max_loburdevananda: ++19:34
k4n0 and  :)19:34
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NobodyCamdevananda: ++19:34
max_loburlucasagomes: good point19:34
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romchegI would be useful to test them on real hardware19:34
wanyeniLO driver
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devanandaFWIW, i think it's important for us to provide some feedback to vendors on these drivers before the Icehouse release, even if it's not a release-critical item, and even if we don't merge them yet19:35
lucasagomeswanyen, k4n0 thanks! I will take a look as soon as I can19:35
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devanandaas far as testing on real hardware goes -- I sent an email to the -dev list a while back19:35
devanandaoutlining what I think we should expect from Vendors that want to provide a driver19:36
max_loburwell, whether they work or not on the real hardware - I think it's vendor's responsibility hehehe :)19:36
NobodyCamwanyen: is 73790 still needed or are you working with it19:36
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devanandamax_lobur: IMO, it's vendor's responsibility to prove that it works on the hardware they claim it works on19:36
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NobodyCamdevananda: DO we require smoke test to show its working19:37
devanandamax_lobur: and continue to demonstrate that via jenkins test runs triggered by any change to ironic code19:37
romchegWell while we expect vendors to be responsible we should also check everything we accept19:37
devanandaNobodyCam: I proposed that we needed that by Juno release ... lemme find the email19:37
matty_dubsromcheg: I don't disagree, but I'm not sure it's always possible19:37
max_loburdevananda: yea, but that will be possible once we have agreed the approach - e.g. vendor labs etc19:37
matty_dubsi.e., with SeaMicro -- most of us probably don't have one of their machines lying around19:38
max_loburI thought this discussion is planned for summit, right?19:38
romchegmax_lobur: right19:38
NobodyCammax_lobur: ++19:38
wanyenMy udnerstandign is that we changed scp to sftp so we don't need is  But I will double check with the team.19:38
matty_dubsOh, nice.19:38
k4n0SeaMicro is cool with Vendor labs in their premise19:38
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k4n0We can do third party testing for each ironic patch19:38
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lucasagomeswill vendors provide a way to test their hardware right? cause I think it's important, we don't want to have broken code in trunk19:39
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NobodyCamlucasagomes: yes that is the plan see ^^^19:39
NobodyCamthank you devananda19:39
devanandak4n0: fantastic, glad to hear that :)19:39
max_loburyea that's it19:39
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devanandak4n0: obviously, we need a way to test ironic in devstack/tempest upstream first -- that's the patch agordeev has been working on (linked earlier today)19:40
k4n0devananda: Yes19:40
devanandak4n0: my goal would be for the same devstack/tempest job in your lab, just with a different Ironic configuration19:40
k4n0devananda: Ideally only the driver info and confs will change :)19:41
devanandaand instead of running tests for every patchset to related projects (eg nova/glance/etc) it would only run for ones in the ironic queue19:41
NobodyCamk4n0: that how I Sea it (pun intended)19:41
devanandak4n0: some bits in devstack will change too - -instead of generating VMs to enroll with Ironic, you'll pass in a .csv (or something) with hardware info19:41
devanandak4n0: and maybe a bit of network difference, too19:42
k4n0NobodyCam: I Sea micro changes required to agordeev patch to get them working for us19:42
k4n0devananda: correct19:42
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NobodyCamk4n0: :-p19:42
k4n0devananda: Since we have time till J-2 milestone, we can discuss this in detail after Summit?19:42
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devanandak4n0: either at or after -- yes :)19:42
k4n0devananda: Sure, at and after :)19:43
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k4n0devananda: I will get the CI setup done in our env till then19:43
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devanandaNobodyCam: I think that's it for the planned topics... anything else or shall we open the floor?19:43
k4n0devananda: I am looking at Jay pipes blogs for setting up third party CI19:43
NobodyCamwanyen: has your team looked to to what will be needed to test the Ilo driver?19:43
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NobodyCamone sec devananda19:44
wanyenYou mean tempest and hardware?19:44
jaypipesk4n0: I'm available if you need assistance.19:44
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NobodyCamwanyen: yes so that the ILO driver will be tested with every commit19:44
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NobodyCamwe can talk offline about that19:45
wanyenyes.  We looked into that and have done some tempest test.19:45
k4n0jaypipes: Thanks Jay, will email you for sure19:45
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NobodyCamwanyen: we will need hardware to actually test the driver with19:45
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devanandaNobodyCam: no we won't :)19:46
wanyenHardware in our development lab, yes.19:46
NobodyCamdevananda: are we concerned about different versions19:46
NobodyCamie Ilo1,2,3,419:46
devanandaNobodyCam: the iLO team will need to have the automated smoke tests running in their own hardware env and reporting them back to gerrit19:46
wanyenwe will support ilo4 and beyond.  We have tested on ProLiant gen7 & Gen 8 servers.19:47
NobodyCamyes that is what I tried to say...19:47
NobodyCamok then open the gates:19:47
NobodyCam#topic Open Discussion19:47
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k4n0I want to take inputs about
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max_loburvendor passthru ?19:48
devanandamax_lobur: not exactly19:49
k4n0max_lobur: No, we are exposing drivers via API19:49
devanandamax_lobur: more like what rloo proposed here:
lucasagomesright, we have a /drivers now but it's pretty much list the current active drivers19:49
lucasagomeswe want to expand it?19:49
k4n0Talking specifically about auto discovery using this API, would there be node registrations on discovery?19:49
k4n0lucasagomes: Yes, we need to be able to call driver functions via API19:50
k4n0lucasagomes: Without needing any node object19:50
max_loburI see19:50
devanandathis also raises the issue of request/response for long-lived requests19:50
devanandathere are a few ways we could do that without a Node resource19:51
devananda* return Request-ID in the resposne header, let client poll for that19:51
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devananda* let client pass a callback URI, and have server issue a request to client's API when done19:52
k4n0devananda: Request-id looks good, but we should also have API to list all queued request-id's19:52
NobodyCamk4n0: I see cases where operators may want auto enrollment but there is also a good case for not auto enrollong them.19:52
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k4n0NobodyCam: What is that case?19:52
devanandak4n0: security19:52
max_loburrequest id looks simpler19:52
devanandak4n0: discover then compare results to part #'s19:52
NobodyCamI think we need a conf switch for that type of option19:52
devanandaand yes, that should be configurable19:53
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devanandamax_lobur: request-id is not that simple. it would require a separate scheduling service to queue up requests, track them, etc19:53
devanandaa callback API is actually much simpler on the server side AND much more scalable19:53
max_loburif we don't auto enroll them, what user should poll for?19:53
devanandamax_lobur: or enroll-but-disable19:54
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max_loburah, make sense19:54
k4n0devananda: +1 for enroll-and-disable19:54
devanandak4n0: what do you think of a callback API for drivers?19:54
max_loburenroll -> disable19:54
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devanandaeg, request would include a URL to which Ironic would POST any nodes it discovered19:55
k4n0devananda: API user passes callback url for drivers to callback?19:55
k4n0devananda: cleaner than request-id19:55
NobodyCamfive minute bell19:55
devanandarather than the user polling Ironic to see when their request is complete19:55
devanandawhcih also does not scale with large number of clients19:55
max_loburand less heavy for the api than polling19:55
k4n0devananda: correct, callback sounds good19:55
devanandaa callback would allow Ironic to POST when it's done19:55
NobodyCamdevananda: that also seem a bit beter for ha stuff too?19:56
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devanandathe other wrinkle is that there will be many conductor processes running19:56
devanandanodes are hashed across them19:56
max_loburwhat if that callback failed? lost connection for a moment, etc19:56
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devanandabut drivers may run on 1 or more conductors (or all of them)19:56
devanandashould a driver action be routed to one instance of that driver, or broadcast to all of them?19:57
lucasagomesyeah callback sounds reasonable19:57
lucasagomesmax_lobur, retry?19:57
max_loburretry discovering? and rolling up the nodes..19:57
lucasagomesdevananda, maybe make it optional?19:57
k4n0devananda: drivers can maintain state of current callback19:57
max_loburlooks long19:57
NobodyCamlucasagomes: like unicast?19:58
devanandaRPC layer supports fanout19:58
lucasagomesNobodyCam, yeah, well some actions might need to be done on each condutor that contains that driver19:58
lucasagomesothers not19:58
devanandalucasagomes: right19:58
lucasagomesso it might make sense to make broadcast optional19:59
devanandabut vendor_passthru is not inspected within the API19:59
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NobodyCamone minte19:59
devanandadiscovery will need to be a separate URI outside of vendor_passthru19:59
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max_loburlet's continue in ironic19:59
devananda*I think discovery will ...19:59
lucasagomesdevananda, yeah, we might even thing about putting vendor_passthru at /19:59
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NobodyCamcan we move this back to -ironic?19:59
lucasagomesand making node an parameter19:59
devanandasure :)19:59
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max_loburThanks Everyone20:00
devanandathanks all! see you next seek!20:00
k4n0Thanks :)20:00
lucasagomesthanks all20:00
lucasagomesoh btw20:00
matty_dubsSee ya!20:00
NobodyCamthank you all we are moving back to our home channel20:00
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MrJoshuaI'm here.20:02
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sarobim pinging guillaume20:02
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saroboh way, lets proceed20:04
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sarob#topic bootcamp20:04
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sarobthe bootcamp structure is laid out at the bottom of the gdoc20:06
sarobhave you a look?20:06
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MrJoshuaYes, Is that doc a cut and paste from something else?20:06
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saroball created last week20:08
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MrJoshuaK, so a few questions...20:08
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sarobquestion away20:09
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MrJoshuaThere's  discussion about difficulty level which sounds very general.  Are we talking about a certification system?  I guess I don't understand the relevance.20:10
sarobim running an open source training program20:11
sarobthe training guide we are working on right now20:11
sarobim creating a condensed version of the guide as a bootcamp20:11
sarobto get etc devs up to speed20:12
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sarobthe section Appendix: How To Participate Bootcamp20:13
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sarobwe are going to run through the first revision of that tomorrow20:13
sarobdoes that make more sense?20:14
MrJoshuaOk got it.  So as far as this doc is concerned we're focusing just on "how to participate"?20:14
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MrJoshuafor tomorrow20:14
sarobjust the last section20:14
sarobthe developer training as a whole is meant to take two weeks20:15
sarobwe doing the condensed version20:15
sarob6 hours20:15
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MrJoshuaOk good, makes sense.  I was concerned that we'd be burning time going over how to program in Python, TDD, or Agile etc.20:16
MrJoshuaI'm looking forward to it.20:16
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sarobnope, not enough time20:17
sarobi working out the materials today20:17
sarobill be patching them to #link
MrJoshuaSo I'm thinking this is 100% the focus for tomorrow, so I won't worry about discussing framework er... work.20:19
sarobmy intent is to get the team up to speed on how to contribute20:19
sarobthen our framework contributions will be less difficult20:20
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MrJoshuaYep, great.  Much needed.20:20
MrJoshuaDid Erik get you a head count yet?  Any idea how many we have?20:21
sarobright now its you, me, and guillaume20:21
sarobwhich is fine as a first run at this20:21
sarobnext time you guys can help teach the next batch20:22
MrJoshuaSure, and makes sense if we're reviewing.20:22
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MrJoshuaSo how are we doing it, online, at ETC, irc, phone ?20:23
sarobat ETC20:23
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MrJoshuak, starting 9am?20:24
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sarobi planned on 10am20:26
sarobim flying in tomorrow morning20:26
MrJoshuaok, all good then.20:26
saroblets change topics20:27
sarob#topic milk api20:27
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MrJoshuaOk, so I've done some work with this, more or less in a vacuum.20:28
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sarobhit me with what you have20:28
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MrJoshuaI've been putting together a Apiary 'blueprint'.20:30
sarobthis one #link
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sarobi agree with the approach20:31
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sarobdefine verbs, methods20:32
sarobprototype in apiary20:32
MrJoshuaIn it i've put a number of components there from our work on C4 that I think generalize well.20:32
MrJoshuathat one20:32
MrJoshuabut I haven't published there yet20:32
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sarobah okay20:32
MrJoshuaI'd like to integrate with Guillaume's work20:32
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sarobcan you  push your text to the milk wiki page?20:33
sarobwe should be communicating through the wiki, mailing list20:33
MrJoshuaAnd I was waiting to understand how to link it properly with OpenStack submission process .20:33
MrJoshuaWhich I will learn how to do tomorrow. ;)20:34
sarobthat way we can get the rest of the group involvved20:34
sarobdump what you are working on into the wiki20:34
MrJoshuaYep, will do.20:34
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sarobI created a starting spot for you in the wiki design section20:36
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sarobsee it?20:36
MrJoshuaAh, yes good.20:36
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sarobthe wiki syntax is a bit primitive but works20:36
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MrJoshuaK, I'll manage I'm more a markdown person anyway.20:37
sarobwe just need to define some verbs, methods20:37
sarobwrite up what you have20:37
sarobonce we decide on a few20:37
MrJoshuaShould I put the architecture notes from my email there too?20:38
sarobwe can get some thing pushed to the repo pretty quick20:38
sarobwe can worry about cleaning up the structure20:38
sarobafter the fact20:38
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sarobbetter to get stuff on paper20:39
sarobready, shoot, aim20:39
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MrJoshuaI never got any comments on that one way or another.20:40
MrJoshualaunchpad is strange.  I used the wrong email address, changed it, but now it still wants to use the one I started with.20:40
MrJoshuasure, sounds good.20:40
sarobit creates an openid account20:41
sarobis mine20:42
MrJoshuaI'll try to dump as much as I can today, and over the next few days.20:42
sarobwe could be done with the milk project in a few days20:42
sarobits pretty simple concept20:42
sarobits the collaboration that is the important bit20:43
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MrJoshuayes, always hard that.20:43
sarobwell we two20:43
MrJoshuaOk sorted launch pad, odd UX, I'm easily confused.20:43
sarobno prob20:44
sarobthats what tomorrow is for20:44
sarobto explain the contribution tools and workflow20:44
sarobcompanies have failed because they couldnt figure it out20:45
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sarobits part of the reason openstack community work20:45
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sarobsee you on the mailing list and wiki before tomorrow?20:46
sarobill be posting the link to the materials20:46
MrJoshuaYep, I'll do my best.  Bit of a tight schedule today to open up tomorrow, but I'll try to get out what I can.20:47
sarobthanks for joining20:47
sarobsigning off20:47
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MrJoshuak later20:47
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Swamihi all21:00
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SumitNaiksatamhi all!21:00
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mesteryHi there!21:00
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markmcclainarosenm amotoki, obondarev: ping21:01
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markmcclainarosen: ping21:01
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markmcclainemagana_: I thought you were traveling?21:02
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markmcclain#startmeeting Networking21:02
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb 24 21:02:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'21:02
markmcclain#link Agenda21:02
emagana_markmcclain: last minute changes21:02
markmcclainMostly the standard agenda with one special item this week21:02
markmcclain#topic Announcements21:03
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markmcclain#info Icehouse-3 merge window closes at the end of the day on March 4th21:03
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markmcclainWe have lots of in progress reviews and many will need to several iterations to ready for merging21:04
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markmcclainit is important both the proposers and reviewers be responsive this week21:04
markmcclainReview for blueprints not in Icehouse-3 are being deferred to Juno21:05
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markmcclain#topic Bugs21:06
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markmcclainWe have 4 open critical bugs.  Most of these we have been carrying for some time21:07
markmcclainThe incident rate of
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salv-orlandomarkmcclain: I think we should reduce its criticality to high.21:08
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markmcclainsalv-orlando: that's my thinking as weel21:09
salv-orlandosame for bug 1273386 (not sure what to with it since the bug is actually still there)21:09
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salv-orlandobut now we know it's not critical at least21:09
markmcclainyeah… for 1273386 reducing makes sense too21:09
salv-orlandoSorry for keeping posting on this topic, but also 1112912 an 1230407 should be retriaged21:10
salv-orlandoI think the first can be closed, and the latter perhaps is not anymore valid now21:10
markmcclainI'm planning on including in the release notes that running an network node and nova-compute on same host when key injection is enabled should be avoided on 12.0421:10
salv-orlandoon the other hand, I would like to raise to critical the two top offenders for the full neutron tempest job21:10
salv-orlandoplus one bug which was filed by lifeless21:11
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markmcclainI missed the merge on #111291221:11
markmcclainI've updated the status21:11
salv-orlandoThe bug I am talking about are:21:11
salv-orlando1) bug 128352221:11
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salv-orlandocan't find the one lifeless filed now...21:12
arosenHiya sorry running late.21:12
lifelesssalv-orlando: is it in this list - ?21:13
markmcclainok looks like enikanorov_ is looking into 128352221:13
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salv-orlandolifeless… the one about "queue pool limit x of y"...21:13
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salv-orlandobug 1282482 I think21:14
markmcclainI pushed back to critical21:14
armaxbug #1282421 might need attention too as it may add instability to the gate21:14
armaxI have a fix, but I am working on UT's21:14
markmcclainarmax: great21:15
armaxlooks line the bot is not working today?21:16
salv-orlandothe bot appears to not be running. Hey openstack are you there?21:16
salv-orlandolooks like it's not21:16
markmcclainyeah not sure what is going on with linking bugs21:17
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markmcclainre 1273386 looks like we still have don't have full crash dump for the kernel team to use21:18
markmcclainbut I agree that moving high makes sense now that we have reasonable workaround for the upstream issue21:18
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salv-orlandoyeah I got pinged for providing a repro21:18
markmcclainAny other bugs to discuss?21:19
salv-orlandobut I had other things to tend to last week unfortunately21:19
salv-orlandoI don't think there is any other bugs which deserves the team's attention here.21:19
salv-orlandoFor a full list of bugs to fix for having the full jobs working decently, see the mailing listy21:19
markmcclainyeah.. I include a full tempest further down the agenda21:21
markmcclain#topic Docs21:21
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markmcclainemagana_: hi21:21
emagana_markmcclain: Hi there!21:21
emagana_Basically, want to share with the team the work that some folks are doing for improving and cleaning the Installation Guide21:21
markmcclainnow that we're getting close to the feature freeze have we begun make sure any changes with DocImpact have a corresponding doc bug?21:22
emagana_There was some feedback (complains) about Installation Guide, therefore some work is in progress to make it very EASY to follow21:22
emagana_markmcclain: let me take that in a minute21:23
emagana_So, for the new installation guide: we have decided to only post information for OpenSource components21:23
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emagana_Any vendor specific will be move to the Apendix section!21:24
markmcclainok.. makes sense21:24
emagana_There are some tickets opened agains the installation guide to add vendor-specific info, please do not work on this ticket becasue installation guide will change21:24
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emagana_I would encourage all vendors to have their own documentation in a public place that we can include in the guide21:25
emagana_markmcclain: about your previous question. Yes, this is the time were we start mapping features with Docs.. WIll be sure we are covering anything new!21:26
salv-orlandoemagana_: I think it might be better to mark them as invalid. Many people working on vendor specific docs are not in this room21:26
markmcclainsalv-orlando: good point21:26
salv-orlandoand I would for sure forget to pass on the information to the rest of my team ;)21:26
Sukhdevemagana_: will you provide some guidelines for the vendors to follow?21:26
emagana_salv-orlando: good point, thanks!21:27
emagana_Sukhdev: The wiki above will be the main point of reference21:27
emagana_It hasn't been decided how the communication with the vendor will be done!21:28
emagana_I will bring it to the docs meeting21:28
emagana_markmcclain: I am done!21:28
Sukhdevemagana_: so, if I want to add anything vendor specific, can I go and update this wiki? will that be OK?21:29
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markmcclainemagana_: I think you'll probably want to send out a message tagged for Neutron to the ML since many have strict filtering in place21:30
emagana_Sukhdev: Installation Guide should not contain vendor specific information in main section but the Apendix will be available for that. Yes, please add in the Wiki anything that you want to be covered21:30
markmcclainemagana_: thanks for the update21:30
emagana_markmcclain: Good idea, I will do that!21:30
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markmcclain#topic Nova Parity21:30
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markmcclainbeagles updated the agenda21:31
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markmcclainhe had a conflict and could not make the meeting today21:31
markmcclain#topic Tempest21:31
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markmcclainsdague started a thread on making the final push for full tempest testing by Icehouse-321:32
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markmcclainsalv-orlando dug further into the gap21:32
markmcclainsalv-orlando: want to share more on what you found?21:33
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salv-orlandobasically the two bugs I want to be moved to critical are the ones we *must* fix21:33
salv-orlandothen there are a plethora of minor bugs both in tempest and/or neutron, which appear to have less frequency21:33
salv-orlandobut I think we have enough people on the team and we should be able to fix all of them21:34
salv-orlandoin particular I think the one enikanorov assigned to himself might be due to agents reporting while api requests are being processed21:34
markmcclainyeah I was wondering the same thing myself21:34
salv-orlandoso I was wondering if we should still think about separating API and RPC server21:34
markmcclainI'm leaning that direction21:35
markmcclainarosen and carl_baldwin have both done work to make this easier21:35
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maruncarl_baldwin has a patch that will give us that capability:
markmcclainright this will enable multiple processes21:36
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carl_baldwinDoesn't totally separate RPC and API yet.21:36
marunif it's running in a different process, how is it now separating it?21:36
markmcclainbut there is still one process that is potentially doing both21:36
salv-orlandothat patch will allow to have some processes which only process APIs and others which only process RPC requests from the message bug?21:36
carl_baldwinThey are still run under the same parent process.21:36
marunwhat does that have to do with ti?21:36
marunin the case of the api_workers = 1, that would mean the only task of the parent process would be making sure there is a live process handling api requests.21:37
marunother than that, it would be handling rpc21:37
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salv-orlandook, let's move that to review then. No need to keep using the meeting's time21:38
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markmcclainyeah.. let's see what implementing this will do to address the testing issue21:38
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markmcclainmight get a win by running more than one RPC process in the gate… other services do this21:39
markmcclainsalv-orlando: Anything else on the full run?21:39
salv-orlandonothing which is not already on the mailing list.21:39
markmcclainsalv-orlando: Thanks for looking into the final gaps and id'ing the bugs21:40
markmcclainmlavalle: hi21:40
mlavallewe have continue making steady progress with api testing21:40
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mlavalleafter the message I sent to the ML last week, Tempest core are doing more reviews of api patches21:41
mlavallein fact, 4 were merged over the pat 7 days21:41
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markmcclaingood news21:41
mesteryGreat news mlavalle!21:41
mlavalleI updated the agenda with the pointers21:42
mlavalleso I still feel condindent that by the end of icehouse, we will be done21:42
markmcclainyeah same here21:42
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markmcclainthanks for updating the agenda21:42
mlavallethat's all I have, unless there are questions21:43
mlavallemestery: thanks :-)21:43
markmcclainmlavalle: thanks for the report21:43
markmcclain#topic L321:43
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markmcclaincarl_baldwin: hi21:43
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markmcclainLooks like he's no longer around… moving on since we're running short on time21:44
markmcclain#topic IPv621:45
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markmcclainsc68cal:  hi21:45
sc68calI'd like to thank salv-orlando for his comments on some of the IPv6 reviews21:45
sc68calvery helpful21:45
sc68calbear with me - i have prepared remarks21:45
salv-orlandoWe might use another core reviewer there. The patches are fairly mature and I think once the comments are addressed they should be good to go.21:45
sc68cali can wait if we want to go back to l321:46
markmcclainlet's continue with v621:46
sc68calWe have one high priority fix that I'd like to see get merged by the merge window, IPv6 allow RAs from certain routers . My concern is that one reviewer has identified a larger issue with how neutron creates routers for IPv6 subnets, that is not addressed by the aforementioned review. I've attempted to get him to clear his -1 on the patch and file a bug for the issue he has identified, because it is21:46
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sc68calThe hairpin bug is looking pretty good - thanks to mestery for +1'ing the review21:47
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sc68caljust need one more nova core to sign off21:47
markmcclainI'll look at 7225221:47
mesterysc68cal: No worries :)21:47
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markmcclainyeah we're close on the hairpin review21:48
sc68calyes- we've been here before though, so I will have toes and fingers crossed for the verify step21:48
sc68calfind a couple rabbits feet too21:48
sc68calotherwise I have a new patch that addresses the suggestions that salv-orlando made - - I will probably post tomorrow21:48
sc68calagain - thanks to salv-orlando for looking closely at the attributes - catching the allow_put = false21:49
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sc68caland the alembic rebaes.21:49
sc68calthat's it - I yield the rest of my time21:49
markmcclainyeah.. alembic rebases are not so fun this time of year21:50
markmcclainI'll do the same thing I did during Havana and make sure they get sequenced correctly after approval21:50
markmcclainsc68cal: thanks for the udpate21:50
markmcclain#topic L321:50
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carl_baldwinmarkmcclain: hi21:50
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carl_baldwinFirst meeting this Thursday at 1500.21:51
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carl_baldwinDVR:  Documentation on agent design for changes to L2 (ML2) and L3 is forthcoming21:51
carl_baldwinWatch for that from Swami21:51
carl_baldwinHA Routers: patches in review21:51
SwamiWill send an update to ML when the docs are ready21:51
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carl_baldwinmarkmcclain: That is all I have.21:52
markmcclainSwami: will be on the lookout for them21:52
markmcclaincarl_baldwin: thanks for the update21:52
markmcclain#topic ML221:52
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markmcclainmestery and rkukura: hi21:52
Swamimarkmcclain: Sure will be there21:52
rkukurahi (I'll let mestery go 1st)21:53
mesterySo, a high priority item is the DB migration work addressed here:
markmcclainmarun is active on that one21:53
mesterymarun and rkukura started looking into this today and marun is going to drive this one21:53
mesteryThat's our highest priority item given it lets us deprecate LB and OVS plugins21:53
mesteryOutside of that, 2 of our SR-IOV patches merged, we have one left:
mesteryWe have two port binding bugs being worked as well:
mesteryrkukura has proposed a detailed summary of the issues which those address here:
markmcclainare they bugs that would block I-3 or something that would block the final release?21:54
mesteryOther than that, we're focused on getting new MDs upstream as well.21:54
mesterymarkmcclain: I'm not sure, let me ponder that.21:55
mesteryThat's all for ML2 given the time left here.21:55
rkukuramarkmcclain: They are needed by many of the existing and new MDs21:55
markmcclainok we can figure out that out over the next day or so21:55
markmcclainrkukura: good to know21:56
mesterythanks rkukura21:56
rkukurahope to have a patch for 1276395 toay or tomorrow, and the other soon after21:56
markmcclainmestery, rkukura: thanks for the update21:56
markmcclain#topic SSL related blueprints21:56
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markmcclainSo this is the special topic that was added to agenda21:56
nati_uenoIncluding VPN?21:56
markmcclainnati_ueno: yes21:56
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salv-orlandowoo the bonus track!21:57
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markmcclainin three minutes or less :)21:57
nati_uenoCan we do discussion in the #openstack-neutron?21:57
markmcclainIn general I've got significant security concerns on the current SSL work21:57
markmcclainsensitive pieces of data are either transmitted or stored in the clear21:58
enikanorov_same as for lbaas i guess21:58
markmcclainnati_ueno: I think the ML is better forum21:58
nati_uenomarkmcclain: gotcha21:58
markmcclainSo I wanted to give a heads up that I'll be starting a thread about delaying both to Juno21:58
markmcclainboth teams have done a lot of work on design and code21:58
markmcclainbut I'd rather delay and ensure we're secure over releasing something even marked experimental21:59
markmcclainenikanorov_: yes this applies to both subteams22:00
nati_uenoLet's discuss on ML about this. If current design is issue, let's delay it to the Juno22:00
enikanorov_nati_ueno: that seems to be the issue with the lack of security store and secure messaging22:01
nati_uenoSame discussion will be applied to the IPsec because we are saving password on the db22:01
nati_uenoI thought db is a kind of secure storeage22:01
nati_uenobut if this assumption is wrong, we should if the ipsec too22:01
markmcclainnati_ueno: that's part of the discussion22:01
nati_uenomarkmcclain: gotcha22:02
nati_uenoI wrote discussion paper
nati_uenoI'll send this for the openstack-dev22:02
nati_uenoso let's discussion on the thread22:02
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markmcclainyeah.. I'll kick if off with a big explanation on what I'm thinking and then we can go from there22:03
markmcclainWe've hit the time limit for this week22:03
markmcclainThanks to everyone for stopping in.. talk to everyone on IRC or the mailing list22:03
salv-orlandoI ok for the sake of the meeting… any decision related to SSL blueprint is then deferred to the Mailing list?22:03
markmcclainsalv-orlando: yes22:03
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nati_uenomarkmcclain: so you will send mail for the dev?22:04
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markmcclainnati_ueno: yes22:06
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nati_uenomarkmcclain: gothca22:06
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