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tnurlygayanov | Hi there! :) | 15:59 |
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rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 17 16:00:13 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
NikolayM | hi! | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
m4dcoder | o/ | 16:00 |
tnurlygayanov | so, we can start our meeting | 16:00 |
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tnurlygayanov | Today I will start this meeting and Renat will continue | 16:01 |
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tnurlygayanov | we have the following agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda | 16:01 |
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tnurlygayanov | and we can start from the your statuses and progress | 16:01 |
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dzimine | yes :) | 16:02 |
enykeev | hey | 16:02 |
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tnurlygayanov | enykeev, dzimine: hi! :) | 16:03 |
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tnurlygayanov | ok, dzimine, how it is going? what about your status? ) | 16:03 |
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tnurlygayanov | on this week I have just review several commits... | 16:05 |
dzimine | on my side 1) Manas has posted repeater, mainly for discussion, to decide wether we want it in | 16:05 |
rakhmerov | sorry folks, I'll join in a few... | 16:05 |
dzimine | 2) we discussed alternatives to repeater for POC to keep POC representative | 16:05 |
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tnurlygayanov | ok | 16:06 |
dzimine | and 3) catching up with TaskFlow integration questions | 16:06 |
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enykeev | I spent the week by digging into taskflow. Also, did few reviews. | 16:06 |
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dzimine | Renat can fill up with details. | 16:06 |
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tnurlygayanov | so, and what about the taskflow? | 16:07 |
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tnurlygayanov | we are ready to implement some initial integration with taskflow? | 16:08 |
dzimine | Lets ask Renat; we agreed that we need a prototype of integration to better understand it. | 16:08 |
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tnurlygayanov | ok | 16:09 |
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tnurlygayanov | NikolayM: what about your status? | 16:09 |
m4dcoder | dzimine: any idea what the architecture will be for the taskflow prototype? should we start discussion of that somewhere? | 16:10 |
dzimine | I didn't put up any code last week, did the reviews, and looked at task flow code to understand it and to be able to reason about the prototype. | 16:11 |
NikolayM | we discussed task repeater with Renat and how to implement it better (and also technical details) | 16:11 |
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m4dcoder | i'm still working on implementation of the local executor. investigating how to pass the transport instance into the pecan app at the API layer. | 16:12 |
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ryanpetrello | m4dcoder: talk to me about this (the pecan app issue) | 16:13 |
ryanpetrello | I'm glad to help | 16:13 |
tnurlygayanov | #info m4dcoder still working on implementation of the local executor. investigating how to pass the transport instance into the pecan app at the API layer. | 16:13 |
tnurlygayanov | #info dzimine discussed alternatives to repeater for POC to keep POC representative and catching up with TaskFlow integration questions | 16:14 |
tnurlygayanov | #info enykeev spent the week by digging into taskflow. Also, did few reviews. | 16:14 |
NikolayM | Also I did some records about keystone token - find a way how to get it easier from trust and send it in headers to some Openstack service | 16:14 |
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tnurlygayanov | #info NikolayM did some records about keystone token - find a way how to get it easier from trust and send it in headers to some Openstack service | 16:15 |
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tnurlygayanov | Do we have plans for this week? | 16:16 |
dzimine | yes we need to start the discussion about the prototype. Can we have Renat and enykeev look at it for this week? | 16:16 |
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tnurlygayanov | let's assign the action items for next week | 16:17 |
dzimine | From my chat with Renat and enykeev, enykeev will take a crack at task flow integration prototype. | 16:17 |
tnurlygayanov | I think Renat can do this. | 16:17 |
m4dcoder | ryanpetrello: let me give you the ML entry. it's already explained there. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-March/029707.html | 16:17 |
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tnurlygayanov | ok, enykeev, are you plan to do this on this week? | 16:18 |
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tnurlygayanov | can we assign this action item to you and Renat? | 16:19 |
enykeev | yep | 16:19 |
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dzimine | we need to decide between checking in the repeater for POC vs alternating POC, I saw the thread but didn't catch up yet. | 16:20 |
dzimine | have we decided? | 16:20 |
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tnurlygayanov | #action-item: rakhmerov and enykeev will start the discussion about the prototype | 16:20 |
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tnurlygayanov | *Mistral on top of TaskFlow prototype | 16:21 |
tnurlygayanov | ok | 16:21 |
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tnurlygayanov | we have next item in agenda | 16:22 |
dzimine | aha, Nicolay, looks like you proposed "“repeat” optional parameter". Let's do this? | 16:22 |
tnurlygayanov | Alternatives to std:repeater | 16:22 |
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tnurlygayanov | NikolayM: can you please share the link on this commit? | 16:23 |
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tnurlygayanov | do we have any alternatives to std:repeater? ) | 16:24 |
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NikolayM | not implemented yet | 16:25 |
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tnurlygayanov | I know that we plan to change it, let's to discuss this feature. | 16:25 |
dzimine | the alternative is to make 'repeat' functionality part of any task. | 16:25 |
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tnurlygayanov | hm and how it will work? task will be in progress while we do not finish repeat action? | 16:27 |
rakhmerov | guys, I apologize | 16:27 |
rakhmerov | I'm finally here | 16:27 |
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dzimine | tasks: | 16:27 |
dzimine | task1: | 16:27 |
dzimine | action: ns.whatever | 16:27 |
dzimine | repeat: | 16:27 |
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dzimine | retries: 5 | 16:27 |
dzimine | delay: 3000 | 16:27 |
tnurlygayanov | *happy* | 16:27 |
dzimine | break-on: $.my_data != null | 16:27 |
dzimine | on-success: | 16:27 |
dzimine | task2: $.my_data != null | 16:27 |
dzimine | on-error: task3 | 16:27 |
tnurlygayanov | dzimine: let's share the link to paste.openstack.org or etherpad with examples :) | 16:28 |
NikolayM | Timur, in this approach task is responsible for repeating, not action | 16:28 |
tnurlygayanov | rakhmerov: we update the statuses and now discuss alternatives for releater | 16:29 |
rakhmerov | ok | 16:30 |
rakhmerov | yep | 16:30 |
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rakhmerov | so my suggestion would be that we implement "repeat" property | 16:30 |
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NikolayM | yes :) | 16:31 |
rakhmerov | other options look less attractive to me for a number of reasons | 16:31 |
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rakhmerov | for example, there was an option to implement HTTP_POLL action that would itself keep sending HTTP requests to Nova, for example, and finish it work when ip is ready | 16:32 |
m4dcoder | how will this work with repeating a set of tasks instead of a single task? | 16:32 |
rakhmerov | after some thinking we came to conclusion that we'd better not have logic like this inside an action | 16:32 |
rakhmerov | sec | 16:33 |
rakhmerov | because in a more or less concurrent environment we'll quickly get executor starvation | 16:33 |
rakhmerov | de facto, executors will block for a long time and system go down | 16:33 |
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rakhmerov | m4dcoder, answering your question... | 16:34 |
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dzimine | m4dcoder: the right long term approach to it IMO is enabling enclosing workflows, and making repeater a special flow construct that 1) encloses multiple tasks and 2) has properties on how to repeat the enclosed flow. | 16:35 |
rakhmerov | if we have a task that can be repeated itself multiple times with a configured delay then we can build a simple subgraph consisting of several tasks related to this repeatable task | 16:35 |
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rakhmerov | it'll be possible if we use conditional transitions and are able to define break-on condition | 16:35 |
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rakhmerov | yes, I agree with dzimine | 16:36 |
m4dcoder | i like the idea of the enclosed workflow. | 16:36 |
rakhmerov | yep | 16:36 |
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rakhmerov | btw, we still don't have a BP for this | 16:36 |
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rakhmerov | my fault | 16:36 |
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rakhmerov | #action (assignee?) create a BP that describes grouping tasks by workflows | 16:38 |
dzimine | the whole search for alternative came from hesitation of checkin in repeater as is, because if the enclosed flow is a long term direction, the current repeater is not on this path. Thus the simple alternative for POC is to make any task 'repeatable'. | 16:38 |
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rakhmerov | yes | 16:39 |
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rakhmerov | actually, just a note: I don't want Manas to feel like he's doing something useless :) | 16:40 |
rakhmerov | it's definitely giving us useful information | 16:40 |
rakhmerov | and what he's done I think will be useful if we agree on that "repeat" property | 16:40 |
dzimine | agree with rakhmerov: the 'repetition' code can be used, it's just a place where it is right now may not be … 'final'. ;) | 16:41 |
rakhmerov | tnurlygayanov, since you're, in fact, a driver today. Did you want to discuss anything specific according to the meeting plan? | 16:42 |
rakhmerov | is there anything specific left to discuss? | 16:42 |
rakhmerov | I have just one small question but pretty important for my work | 16:43 |
dzimine | the task flow prototype, we touched on it a bit | 16:43 |
m4dcoder | can you clarify current plan for POC and the status of the incubation? | 16:44 |
rakhmerov | ok, two major things that are left for PoC:repeater (in some form) | 16:45 |
rakhmerov | but I think we're already close with it | 16:45 |
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rakhmerov | and Nikolay started doing some things in security (proper use of trusts) that is needed to work with a real OpenStack | 16:46 |
rakhmerov | and there's some work left on actions | 16:46 |
dzimine | Prototype of task flow integration: my proposal is at high level (before we know better) - try to use it as library, use Mistarl as service on top, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-taskflow-prototype | 16:46 |
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dzimine | it's not "how", I tried to describe a scope of a prototype. As for "how", once enykeev gives it a crack, we'll know better. | 16:47 |
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rakhmerov | yes, guys I would suggest we leave it for now since it's a big topic | 16:48 |
rakhmerov | we'll be keeping you posted | 16:48 |
rakhmerov | mostly Kirill will :)) | 16:48 |
enykeev | i do xD | 16:48 |
rakhmerov | and not only posted but we'll be discussing that in an open manner | 16:48 |
rakhmerov | I have a question | 16:49 |
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rakhmerov | last week I created a BP related to design of Actions | 16:49 |
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rakhmerov | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-actions-design | 16:49 |
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rakhmerov | Dmitri already gave his feedback and looks like we're mostly ok on this design | 16:50 |
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rakhmerov | dzimine, I still need to make a couple of changes after our Friday's conversation, I remember that | 16:50 |
rakhmerov | but generally it looks ok to us | 16:51 |
rakhmerov | did you have a chance to look at it? Do you have any suggestions/comments on it? | 16:51 |
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dzimine | it looks ok to me (I left comments on openstack-dev) | 16:51 |
rakhmerov | yes, thank you | 16:51 |
rakhmerov | If that looks ok, I'd like to crack it in PoC phase | 16:51 |
rakhmerov | partially | 16:51 |
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rakhmerov | full implementation may take up to a couple of weeks but I feel like we already need to tackle some parts of it | 16:52 |
rakhmerov | can I start doing this tomorrow? | 16:53 |
rakhmerov | silence means yes? :)) | 16:53 |
dzimine | np :) | 16:54 |
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rakhmerov | or if you need some more time to look at it then it's fine | 16:54 |
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rakhmerov | ok, then I'll start working on it tomorrow | 16:55 |
rakhmerov | anything else for today? | 16:55 |
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rakhmerov | let's finish then | 16:56 |
rakhmerov | thanks for joining guys! | 16:56 |
rakhmerov | bye | 16:56 |
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NikolayM | bye! | 16:56 |
m4dcoder | thanks! bye | 16:56 |
rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 17 16:57:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-03-17-16.00.html | 16:57 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-03-17-16.00.txt | 16:57 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-03-17-16.00.log.html | 16:57 |
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enykeev | thanks | 16:57 |
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jaypipes | #startmeeting third-party-ci | 18:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 17 18:02:18 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jaypipes. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party_ci' | 18:02 |
jaypipes | good afternoon folks. | 18:02 |
jgriffith | hey ya | 18:02 |
luqas | hi | 18:02 |
jaypipes | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/third-party-ci-workshop | 18:02 |
krtaylor | hello all | 18:02 |
jaypipes | I spent some time cleaning up the above etherpad... let's continue to use it. | 18:03 |
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jaypipes | For question #2, mtreinish, jeblair and clarkb have gotten a DEVSTACK_TEMPEST_REGEX env variable into devstack-gate now. | 18:04 |
jaypipes | so I should update that section accordingly. IIRC, lukego has experimented successfully with it. | 18:04 |
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jaypipes | If you're on the etherpad, please do make sure you set your name in the right-hand pane please (click on the little person icon thingee and enter you name) | 18:05 |
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jaypipes | OK, sorry about that. Done cleaning up question 2. | 18:08 |
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jaypipes | Does anyone have questions that we can tackle today on third party CI? | 18:09 |
jaypipes | anyone have any updates about how their CI installation/setup is going? | 18:09 |
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jaypipes | jgriffith: how is Solidfire's going? run into roadbumps we can assist with? | 18:09 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: yes please | 18:10 |
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jgriffith | jaypipes: I'm reproducing the issue now | 18:10 |
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jgriffith | jaypipes: ran into problems just setting up :( | 18:10 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: ok, sounds good. | 18:10 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: perfect, that's what this meeting is all about :) | 18:10 |
jgriffith | Coolness | 18:10 |
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jgriffith | jaypipes: so I spin up a simple 12.04 instance, copy my keys over | 18:11 |
jgriffith | clone my repo and wget the script | 18:11 |
jgriffith | The problem I've been hitting is that I get a couple of errors | 18:11 |
* jgriffith can't find the pastebin so running again | 18:12 | |
jaypipes | no probs | 18:12 |
rfolco | jaypipes, very quick question to confirm... "recheck <3rd-party>" is triggering Jenkins too. recheck-<3rd-party> with dash will do the trick ? | 18:13 |
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jaypipes | rfolco: hmm, I don't think so, but lemme check the regex... | 18:14 |
jaypipes | rfolco: https://github.com/jaypipes/os-ext-testing-data/blob/master/etc/zuul/layout.yaml#L15 | 18:14 |
jaypipes | rfolco: I do not believe a dash will work, no. | 18:15 |
rfolco | jaypipes, we did this: comment_filter: (?i)^\s*recheck myvendor\s*$ | 18:15 |
jaypipes | rfolco: if you really wanted (not recommended because it diverges from upstream), you could change that regex if you wish | 18:15 |
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jaypipes | rfolco: that's a different specific regex, here: https://github.com/jaypipes/os-ext-testing-data/blob/master/etc/zuul/layout.yaml#L20 | 18:16 |
jaypipes | rfolco: you are welcome to change that to whatever you want. | 18:16 |
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jaypipes | rfolco: the first regex, though, is what the upstream system typically uses for recheck bug notifiers. | 18:16 |
jaypipes | rfolco: the second regex is something you can change to have a custom "only recheck on my system" event. | 18:17 |
jaypipes | rfolco: make sense? | 18:17 |
rfolco | jaypipes, yes. We actually added the second one. | 18:17 |
jaypipes | kk | 18:17 |
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rfolco | jaypipes, not sure why its triggering Jenkins too. | 18:17 |
jaypipes | rfolco: are you asking why recheck-$your_vendor is triggering a jenkins job run? | 18:18 |
rfolco | jaypipes, I was asking if a dash is necessary to run our CI ONLY. | 18:19 |
rfolco | example: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79239/ | 18:19 |
jaypipes | no, it should not be at all. | 18:19 |
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jaypipes | rfolco: no, no dash should be necessary if your regex is (?i)^\s*recheck pkvm\s*$ | 18:20 |
rfolco | jaypipes, it has triggered Jenkins too.... I'll double check what happened. Thank you for confirming. | 18:20 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: FWIW I managed to get passed the issue I was seeing before, see if I make it through everything else :) | 18:20 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: do you remember what the old issue was? | 18:20 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: I'll find it | 18:20 |
jaypipes | k | 18:20 |
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jgriffith | jaypipes: http://paste.openstack.org/show/73667/ | 18:22 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: uncertain why the httpd stuff was having issues | 18:23 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: yeah, that last line meant Jenkins was still starting by the time jenkins-jobs was being executed. | 18:23 |
jgriffith | Oh interesting | 18:23 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: nothing to worry about. might just have been a slow startup initially. | 18:23 |
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jaypipes | either a really fast puppet or a really slow Jenkins :) | 18:24 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: so timing is everything :) | 18:24 |
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jaypipes | jgriffith: well, sometimes services say they are up (jenkins has a nasty habit of this), but they aren't fully up. | 18:24 |
jgriffith | ahh... that's rather annoying | 18:25 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: for example, you can shut down jenkins (service jenkins stop), then wait a second, then do service jenkins start, and then immediately run jenkins-jobs, and it will fail. | 18:25 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: oh, nice | 18:25 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: because jenkins service reported success to init.d, but it's not fully uip. | 18:25 |
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jgriffith | jaypipes: I'll def want to keep that in mind I think | 18:26 |
jaypipes | yeah... especially if you do restarts of jenkins during debugging of the CI env. | 18:26 |
jaypipes | something to keep in mind. | 18:26 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: oh crap | 18:28 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: that was slave (part 2) | 18:28 |
jaypipes | always like to hear that ... | 18:28 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: the issues I was seeing were on master (part 1) | 18:28 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: slave shouldn't install jenkins-jobs, jenkins, or zuul... :( | 18:28 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: did you by accident run install_master.sh on the slave VM? :) | 18:28 |
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jgriffith | jaypipes: so initially I was just doing the master | 18:29 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: I spun up a fresh instance to try again but accidentally ran slave setup | 18:29 |
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jgriffith | jaypipes: I'll need to build another instance for the master which is where I saw that original error | 18:29 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: make sense? | 18:30 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: I see :) yeah, you'll need to redo the master I'm afraid. | 18:30 |
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jaypipes | jgriffith: and if you changed your jenkins SSH keys, you will need to redo the slave as well. | 18:30 |
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jgriffith | jaypipes: k | 18:30 |
jaypipes | luqas: how is your CI going? any issues we can assist with? | 18:32 |
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luqas | jaypipes: hi | 18:33 |
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luqas | well continous work on our CI system | 18:34 |
luqas | always something to do! | 18:34 |
jaypipes | :) indeed. | 18:34 |
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luqas | I have a couple of things done before I get a concrete question, so I'll wait for next week I guess | 18:35 |
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jaypipes | ok, no worries, luqas. you can also email the openstack-infra ML with questions and I will gather for next week's meeting, too. | 18:35 |
luqas | jaypipes: perfect | 18:36 |
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krtaylor | Just fyi, as I have discussed a few times in -infra, I am organizing a 3rd party implementer self-help group to try and offload the infra core folks a little | 18:37 |
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jaypipes | krtaylor: cool, do you want to that group to take over this meeting? | 18:38 |
krtaylor | I created an etherpad to get some ideas down #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/3rdPartyTesting | 18:38 |
krtaylor | jaypipes, well, I think initially this meeting could be a great input to that | 18:39 |
jaypipes | krtaylor: could you link to the etherpad with the Q&A? | 18:39 |
krtaylor | jaypipes, will do | 18:39 |
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jaypipes | cheerio. yes, krtaylor would be great to align efforts and have a single place for 3rd party implementers to meet and help each other. | 18:39 |
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krtaylor | one of the first things I'd like to do is standardize the ML tag, mainly because my mail filter is horrible | 18:40 |
jaypipes | hehe, no crap. agreed ;) | 18:40 |
jaypipes | krtaylor: how about 3PCI? | 18:40 |
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krtaylor | hm, I'll add that, may be too short for beginners though | 18:41 |
jaypipes | possibly, yeah. | 18:41 |
jaypipes | krtaylor: so, my long term goal for all of this was to push pieces of my blog, the os-ext-testing and os-ext-testing-data repos, and all of the Q&A material into ci.openstack.org/third-party-testing | 18:42 |
jaypipes | krtaylor: do you concur with that long-term goal? | 18:42 |
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jaypipes | krtaylor: I've actually been delaying doing any patches to the ci documentation upstream while the os-ext-testing stuff bakes a bit (and even will propose os-ext-testing into a stackforge repo when it's fully baked) | 18:43 |
krtaylor | yes, I see a lot of the same questions over and over internally, the Q&A distilled to a FAQ and links would be a huge help | 18:43 |
jaypipes | great | 18:43 |
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jaypipes | well, how about we make it a goal to, by atlanta, have made good progress on that? | 18:44 |
krtaylor | agreed, this may wind up being a set of doc patches when all done | 18:44 |
krtaylor | yes | 18:44 |
jaypipes | getting all the docs up into ci.openstack.org, and having os-ext-testing turned into a stackforge repo? | 18:44 |
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jgriffith | jaypipes: so not sure how to debug this... the master script finished | 18:45 |
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jgriffith | jaypipes: but can't connect to the jenkins web interface (times out) | 18:46 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: k, can you see jenkins GUI at $HOST_IP:8080? | 18:46 |
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krtaylor | jaypipes, I think that's a good goal | 18:46 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: no, that's what I mean when I say connection times out | 18:46 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: ps -ef shows jenkins running | 18:46 |
jgriffith | but it seems the web portion is still jacked up | 18:47 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: tail -n50 /var/log/jenkins/*.log? | 18:47 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: just did | 18:47 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: to a pastebin... | 18:47 |
jgriffith | says "fully up and running" | 18:47 |
jaypipes | hmm, odd... is there an iptables rule on your main host that is preventing traffic to the master's IP? | 18:48 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: http://paste.openstack.org/show/73685/ | 18:48 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: ahh | 18:48 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: bet that's it | 18:48 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: actually I'll be it's my openstack secgroups | 18:48 |
jaypipes | yup. | 18:49 |
jaypipes | I've not seen this before either: Dependency token-macro (1.5.1) doesn't exist | 18:49 |
jaypipes | not sure if that is important or not, though. | 18:49 |
jgriffith | me neither :) | 18:49 |
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jaypipes | clarkb, fungi: ever seen "Dependency token-macro (1.5.1) doesn't exist" in a jenkins log before? | 18:49 |
jgriffith | yeah, so I've only got 22 | 18:49 |
jgriffith | on TCP | 18:49 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: open that puppy up! | 18:49 |
jaypipes | :P | 18:49 |
jaypipes | 8080 | 18:49 |
clarkb | jaypipes: I have not | 18:50 |
clarkb | but guessing its an interplugin dependency that needs resolving | 18:50 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: yay for me | 18:50 |
jaypipes | :) | 18:50 |
jgriffith | that was it | 18:50 |
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jaypipes | clarkb: prolly, yeah... let's see if opening up the sec groups helped that. | 18:51 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: any other ports off the top of your head while I'm at it? | 18:51 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: re-run install_master.sh | 18:51 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: do I need to clean anything out manually first? | 18:51 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: or just rerun? | 18:51 |
jaypipes | jgriffith: no | 18:51 |
fungi | jaypipes: not familiar looking to me | 18:51 |
jgriffith | k | 18:51 |
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jaypipes | jgriffith: just 80, 8080, 443 and 22 | 18:52 |
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fungi | also, late in responding, but i'm very much in favor of krtaylor's proposal to lighten the load on infra, as long as that group is not afraid to ask us questions (please don't disappear and start coming up with solutions in a vacuum!) | 18:53 |
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krtaylor | fungi, agreed, we'll have to keep you all in the loop somehow | 18:54 |
jaypipes | fungi: ++ | 18:54 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: reran, don't see any errors in the new run | 18:54 |
jgriffith | jaypipes: think I'll proceed | 18:54 |
jaypipes | coo | 18:55 |
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fungi | always happy to help when there are questions, but an faq would be a great start (something deeper than the current third-party ci doc we have--it desperately wants to be improved) | 18:55 |
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jaypipes | gonna end this meeting since infra is up next for their weekly meeting... see you all next week. | 18:57 |
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jaypipes | #endmeeting | 18:57 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 17 18:57:20 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:57 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party_ci/2014/third_party_ci.2014-03-17-18.02.html | 18:57 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party_ci/2014/third_party_ci.2014-03-17-18.02.txt | 18:57 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party_ci/2014/third_party_ci.2014-03-17-18.02.log.html | 18:57 |
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NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | #chair devananda | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | Welcome everyone to the Ironic meeting. | 19:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 17 19:00:03 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:00 |
openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | Of course the agenda can be found at: | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | Who's here for the Ironic Meeting? | 19:00 |
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jroll | \o | 19:00 |
Shrews | \o | 19:00 |
mrda | \o | 19:00 |
rloo | \o | 19:00 |
linggao | o/ | 19:00 |
agordeev2 | o/ | 19:00 |
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NobodyCam | phew thought it was going to be a quicker meeting then I had thought | 19:01 |
adam_g | o/ | 19:01 |
dwalleck | 0/ | 19:01 |
NobodyCam | hello all | 19:01 |
NobodyCam | and welcome | 19:01 |
NobodyCam | announcements: | 19:01 |
NobodyCam | Happy Saint Patrick's Day | 19:01 |
GheRivero | o/ | 19:01 |
NobodyCam | oh ya another announcement | 19:02 |
NobodyCam | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70348 -- LANDED!!!!! | 19:02 |
rloo | awesome! | 19:03 |
adam_g | \o/ | 19:03 |
mrda | woohoo! | 19:03 |
NobodyCam | we are getting there | 19:03 |
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NobodyCam | any one else have any announcements | 19:03 |
adam_g | should we update developer docs with instructions on how to bootstrap devstack+ironic? | 19:03 |
agordeev2 | NobodyCam: many thanks for applying a lof effort. Shrews, adam_g, devananda, and other guys. Thanks!! | 19:03 |
NobodyCam | Yes and the etheroad too | 19:03 |
agordeev2 | a lot of * | 19:03 |
dwalleck | yes please! | 19:03 |
JayF | o/ | 19:03 |
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NobodyCam | :) *(BLUSH)* | 19:04 |
NobodyCam | adam_g: can that be a action item for you?? | 19:04 |
adam_g | yea | 19:04 |
NobodyCam | #action adam_g to update instructions on how to bootstrap devstack+ironic | 19:04 |
NobodyCam | awesome thank you adam_g | 19:05 |
adam_g | np | 19:05 |
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NobodyCam | ok we have a light agenda today | 19:05 |
NobodyCam | so we'll jump right in to : | 19:05 |
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NobodyCam | #topic Ongoing integration & testing work | 19:05 |
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devananda | hi! sorry I'm late | 19:06 |
NobodyCam | so the main devstack patch landed that is a hugh step for us | 19:06 |
NobodyCam | Welcome devananda Glade you could make it | 19:06 |
devananda | NobodyCam: please carry on :) this machine's a bit ... slow ... | 19:06 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:06 |
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NobodyCam | I wanted to give a quick up date on the TripleO work | 19:06 |
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NobodyCam | as of friday I was able to deploy a workload from the undercloud with ironic | 19:07 |
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NobodyCam | all but two of the patches for that landed over the weekend | 19:07 |
mrda | more good news! Great! | 19:08 |
NobodyCam | I am working the two left now. and will be starting to integrate with seed vm this week | 19:08 |
max_lobur1 | o/ | 19:08 |
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NobodyCam | once we have that over cloud will be last up if that fits with the OoO story | 19:09 |
linggao | NobodyCan, can the procedure be put on somewhere? We are not good at using TripleO | 19:09 |
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NobodyCam | #action NobodyCam to update Ironic TripleO use docs | 19:09 |
NobodyCam | linggao: ^^^ | 19:09 |
linggao | thanks ^_^ | 19:10 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:10 |
NobodyCam | any question on TripleO work? | 19:10 |
NobodyCam | oh | 19:10 |
NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80725 | 19:10 |
NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72969 | 19:11 |
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devananda | NobodyCam: linggao: that info should live here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic/TripleO | 19:11 |
devananda | (and yes, itneeds to be updated) | 19:11 |
NobodyCam | :) there is also a etherpad too I think | 19:11 |
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devananda | NobodyCam: on second thought, eventually it should move into tripleo-incubator's autogenerated docs | 19:12 |
linggao | devananda, thanks for the urls. | 19:12 |
NobodyCam | any other questions/ comments? | 19:12 |
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NobodyCam | devananda: wont they be part of OoO's docs | 19:12 |
NobodyCam | in the end I hoping for just set USE_IROIC | 19:13 |
NobodyCam | USE_IRONIC even | 19:13 |
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devananda | NobodyCam: yes | 19:13 |
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NobodyCam | any one have anything on / about the devstack work? | 19:14 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:14 |
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NobodyCam | are we good to move on? | 19:15 |
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NobodyCam | ok we can come back if needed. we have a very light agenda today | 19:16 |
NobodyCam | so that brings us to: | 19:16 |
NobodyCam | #topic Food for Thought / Open Discussion | 19:16 |
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agordeev2 | NobodyCam: just few tiny improvements for devstack. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80958/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80977/ if they count | 19:16 |
NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80958 | 19:16 |
NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80977 | 19:16 |
NobodyCam | agordeev2: awesome TY | 19:16 |
NobodyCam | o we have only two FFT items: | 19:17 |
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NobodyCam | Functional/Integration testing of vendor drivers & Driver architecture for Chassis object | 19:18 |
NobodyCam | has anyone put anythough behind the Chassis | 19:18 |
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jroll | have not | 19:19 |
NobodyCam | I love to see a blue print to allow the chassis to act a holding place for node options, | 19:19 |
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NobodyCam | ie all the power manager type options | 19:20 |
adam_g | devananda, how far did you manage to get on friday /w integrating ironic+devstack into the gate? | 19:20 |
NobodyCam | thou Not sure how that fits | 19:20 |
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NobodyCam | devananda: thoughts on ^^^ | 19:20 |
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linggao | There should be operations like power on/off the chassis, right? | 19:21 |
NobodyCam | oh so like power off a whole group | 19:22 |
NobodyCam | that would be neat | 19:22 |
NobodyCam | deploy a whole grooup | 19:22 |
devananda | adam_g: two patches still in flight to finish that, i think | 19:22 |
NobodyCam | devananda: you have links we can #lnk here? | 19:22 |
devananda | NobodyCam, linggao - nope. doing group operations within ironic is not in scope for the near future | 19:22 |
wanyen | discover hardware for the whole chassis as another example | 19:23 |
devananda | group operations touches on scheduling too closely | 19:23 |
NobodyCam | ahh sounded really neat | 19:23 |
devananda | which is the scheduler's responsibility | 19:23 |
NobodyCam | :-p | 19:23 |
linggao | node grouping should be introduced some time for performance | 19:23 |
devananda | ironic would expose group information, and the scheduler should be able to make group-aware decisions | 19:23 |
linggao | For power actions againg chasis, I meant powering on/off the chasis itself. | 19:24 |
devananda | but until there is such awareness in the scheduler, it's premature to add it to ironic | 19:24 |
devananda | linggao: ah. so. THAT is more in-scope :) | 19:24 |
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NobodyCam | lol I want a single command to deploy my seti farm ...lol... j/k | 19:24 |
devananda | NobodyCam: yes -- use Heat for that | 19:25 |
NobodyCam | hhehehe ya | 19:25 |
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NobodyCam | this is open floor any one want to jump in | 19:25 |
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NobodyCam | questions / comments / rants :-p | 19:25 |
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devananda | adam_g: re devstack support in the gate -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80652/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80653/ | 19:26 |
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adam_g | devananda, cool, thanks | 19:26 |
NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80652 | 19:26 |
NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80653 | 19:26 |
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linggao | I'll write a blueprint for chassis operations, is there one already? | 19:26 |
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dwalleck | I'm really interested in the ironic + devstack testing/gating process. I used to work on Tempest and I work on another third party testing system also. Who/how is the best way to get involved? | 19:27 |
NobodyCam | linggao: porb a good topic for summit.. may better there in the open form? | 19:27 |
devananda | linggao: let's discuss it at the summit in the larger context of scheduling operations | 19:27 |
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devananda | linggao: tuskar already has a need for multiple types of logical groupings to model failure domains | 19:28 |
devananda | linggao: eg, power, network, and storage -- 3 different failure domains, and a node may belong to more than one | 19:28 |
devananda | linggao: so chassis is not the complete answer | 19:28 |
adam_g | dwalleck, hit me up. now that we have initial support in devstack, id like to spend time this week with tempest-against-ironic and getting some basic ironic exercise tests in devstack | 19:29 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:29 |
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devananda | dwalleck: best way to get involved -- ask in channel. adam_g has expressed an interest in looking at the tempest suite as soon as we get the tests going in the gate | 19:29 |
devananda | heh | 19:29 |
dwalleck | sounds good. Thanks! | 19:29 |
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linggao | devananda, I meant the hareware opentations on chassis itself. | 19:29 |
agordeev2 | i'm excited about ironic python agent. What's the current status? Anyone interested? | 19:30 |
linggao | grouping is a different idea, | 19:30 |
jroll | agordeev2: hey | 19:30 |
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linggao | I do not think chassis object should be used as a node grouping tool. | 19:30 |
NobodyCam | agordeev2: the python-ironicclient | 19:30 |
devananda | agordeev2: jroll and JayF are working on that | 19:30 |
jroll | I can briefly talk about the agent | 19:30 |
NobodyCam | oh the deploy agent | 19:31 |
jroll | we have a patch in to infra to make the agent an openstack project | 19:31 |
JayF | agordeev2: the merge request for infra is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79088/4 | 19:31 |
JayF | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79088 | 19:31 |
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NobodyCam | do we have links for the teeth stuff we can link here? | 19:31 |
NobodyCam | awesome :) | 19:31 |
jroll | we are currently ripping out dependencies not approved by openstack, and changing our test suite to use testr and use more environments | 19:31 |
agordeev2 | jroll: are you planning to introduce driver that support custom plugins/extentions? | 19:31 |
jroll | #link https://github.com/rackerlabs/teeth-agent | 19:31 |
JayF | #link https://github.com/rackerlabs/teeth-agent | 19:32 |
JoshNang | agordeev2: in the agent? | 19:32 |
jroll | #link https://github.com/rackerlabs/ironic-teeth-driver | 19:32 |
devananda | linggao: ah, gotcha. please propose a summit session about what your specific interest in chassis operations is, and include a note that it is not related to grouping (folks will probably assume it is, if this is not explicit) | 19:32 |
jroll | agordeev2: what kind of plugins/extensions do you have in mind | 19:32 |
agordeev2 | JoshNang: yup. In the agent. Eg. 3rd party plugins for harware configuration and so on | 19:32 |
jroll | agordeev2: yes, that already exists for hardware | 19:32 |
jroll | our hardware detection/configuration stuff is pluggable | 19:32 |
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jroll | our current plan is to work hard and get a demo working before the summit | 19:33 |
jroll | I've already proposed a summit session on the agent | 19:33 |
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NobodyCam | would it good to add a teeth-agent topic to the next meeting? | 19:33 |
linggao | devananda, sure. I'll. thanks | 19:33 |
jroll | NobodyCam: if people would like to talk about it, sure :) | 19:33 |
NobodyCam | jroll: I'd like to get people talking about it | 19:34 |
jroll | I hope by next meeting, infra will merge that patch | 19:34 |
jroll | got it | 19:34 |
agordeev2 | jroll: great. How i can get involved too? I'm in a need of comprehensive data-driven disk partitioning at least (and have some stuff for it) | 19:34 |
JayF | So for the patch | 19:34 |
JayF | Infra has "new project Fridays" | 19:34 |
JayF | if we get the agent ready to merge before friday, we should be able to merge on Friday | 19:34 |
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jroll | agordeev2: start sending patches :) | 19:34 |
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NobodyCam | #action NobodyCam to add teeth-agent topic to agenda | 19:35 |
devananda | jroll: if you guys re blocked on anything, don't hsitate to ping me | 19:35 |
jroll | agordeev2: patches can go via PR on github for now, and through gerrit after that | 19:35 |
agordeev2 | jroll: GH pull request? ok | 19:35 |
agordeev2 | jroll: TY | 19:35 |
jroll | devananda: sure, thanks. I'm trying to respect the feature freeze and just pull our patches in when needed :) | 19:35 |
JayF | agordeev2: we're all in #openstack-ironic and will give responsive reviews :D | 19:35 |
jroll | ^ | 19:35 |
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jroll | anything else about the agent? | 19:36 |
agordeev2 | JayF: jroll okay guys. I'll ping you someday :) | 19:36 |
linggao | devananda, we also have some ideas on node hardware operations like resetting BMC, getting beacon status etc. Should I also propose it together in the same summit sesssion? | 19:36 |
NobodyCam | anything about anything else | 19:36 |
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NobodyCam | linggao: that sounds like two sessions | 19:37 |
devananda | linggao: yep. as proposals come in, i may move some topics around | 19:37 |
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linggao | ok, I'll put them in 2 sessions first, the you guys decide if merge them or not. | 19:38 |
NobodyCam | linggao: awesome TY | 19:38 |
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linggao | :) | 19:38 |
NobodyCam | anything else, or is that it for today? | 19:39 |
devananda | fyi, we will probably be limited to 5 pr 6 sessions. last summit, i think we spent about half the time talking about features we hjaven't gotten around to implementing yet | 19:39 |
NobodyCam | devananda: ++ | 19:39 |
devananda | so i'd like us to learn from that and will be trying to keep the sessions focused on what we can achieve in the following 6mo | 19:39 |
NobodyCam | lets talk about what we are going to actually be working on | 19:40 |
NobodyCam | :-p | 19:40 |
devananda | :) | 19:40 |
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devananda | no other topics from me this week | 19:40 |
NobodyCam | if we are done we can get 20 minutes back | 19:40 |
devananda | we can end early if no one else has things | 19:40 |
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NobodyCam | awesome Thank you everyone | 19:41 |
jroll | thank you! | 19:41 |
mrda | thanks NobodyCam | 19:41 |
JoshNang | no complaints on ending early :) | 19:41 |
NobodyCam | :) ok then lets call it | 19:41 |
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NobodyCam | last chance | 19:42 |
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NobodyCam | Thak you all | 19:42 |
NobodyCam | #endmeeting | 19:42 |
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agordeev2 | thanks for your time! | 19:42 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-03-17-19.00.html | 19:42 |
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MrJoshua | Anyone here for the milk-dev meething? | 20:01 |
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sarob_ | here | 20:02 |
sarob_ | #startmeeting milk | 20:02 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:02 |
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sarob_ | roll call | 20:02 |
MrJoshua | I'm here. | 20:03 |
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MrJoshua | I think that's it though. | 20:03 |
sarob_ | good enough for me | 20:03 |
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MrJoshua | I did some work last week and checked it in, but I haven't seen it on git hub. | 20:03 |
sarob_ | let me check | 20:04 |
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sarob_ | strange | 20:06 |
sarob_ | oh | 20:06 |
sarob_ | you went through the check pipe | 20:07 |
sarob_ | once its completed check tests | 20:07 |
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sarob_ | then it needs to be +2 for the gate pipe | 20:08 |
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sarob_ | you need to select review on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80402/ | 20:08 |
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sarob_ | then +2 and approve | 20:08 |
MrJoshua | Hmm, ok I thought Approved would be enough. | 20:08 |
MrJoshua | So cancel the one I have there now? There doesn't seem to be a way to +2 now. So cancel and do it again? | 20:09 |
MrJoshua | Under "Reviewer" | 20:09 |
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sarob_ | see what I just did | 20:10 |
sarob_ | i gave it a +2 and approved | 20:10 |
MrJoshua | It just shows checkmarks in both columns. I have +1 in both columns. | 20:10 |
MrJoshua | But anyway, I think I get it. Next time I'll do +2 | 20:10 |
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sarob_ | infra guys can correct me, but i believe we can set the queue to accept +2 as min | 20:11 |
sarob_ | default is to ask for both approved and +2 | 20:11 |
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MrJoshua | That's fine. I just didn't do that the first time, and then it doesn't give me the option. | 20:12 |
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sarob_ | i was slammed last week. I read the wiki contribution steps, but didnt go through them | 20:13 |
MrJoshua | (In that case I guess I'd cancel my review, and do it again with +2) | 20:13 |
sarob_ | they seem okay | 20:13 |
sarob_ | ? | 20:13 |
MrJoshua | It the case that I set the wrong review +1 or not approved etc. | 20:14 |
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MrJoshua | It = In | 20:14 |
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sarob_ | MrJoshua: hmm, i think you just didnt add up to +2 | 20:14 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: and approved | 20:14 |
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MrJoshua | Yes, I get that, but I'm talking about changing it once it's entered inccorectly. | 20:14 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: i think we can set it to just +2 | 20:14 |
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MrJoshua | I think I've got it, now. So no worries. | 20:15 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: right | 20:15 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: zuul believes all is well | 20:15 |
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sarob_ | MrJoshua: the gatekeeper is never wrong | 20:16 |
MrJoshua | haha | 20:16 |
MrJoshua | Other than that, nothing new on my end. | 20:16 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: so what we do with the apiary in the repo | 20:17 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: use the apiary spec with python service to respond to requests? | 20:18 |
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MrJoshua | It's editable and testable, and anyone can build a server that delivers that API. On the apiary site is a moch server that delivers the static data form the doc for testing. | 20:18 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: so how now brown cow? | 20:18 |
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MrJoshua | http://milk.apiary.io | 20:19 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: start with a few to discuss apiary mock server | 20:19 |
MrJoshua | http://docs.milk.apiary.io | 20:19 |
MrJoshua | Changes to the github repo will not automatically get updated at apiary. For that someone has to have access to the apiary project, which you and I have and I think either of us can share. | 20:21 |
MrJoshua | I also have the C4 API which is much more complete, but had to pull it out because of some syntax error I didn't have time to fix. I'll put that in this week some time too. | 20:22 |
MrJoshua | Although this should be enough to get anyone starting as a django implementation requirement, I'm hoping to have the test framework incorporated this week as well. | 20:23 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: we need to add get /ServiceRegistry/{service}/metadata | 20:24 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: or would the metadata be returned by a get by defualt | 20:24 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: default | 20:24 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: then i believe first round of API is complete | 20:25 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: design | 20:25 |
MrJoshua | If you click on the GET it shows you what is returned. Yes I don't think I have medtadata there so I can fix that. | 20:26 |
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sarob_ | MrJoshua: im good with a separate call to return metadata | 20:27 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: we dont need to start overloading calls from the get go | 20:27 |
MrJoshua | Cool, but it's not there at all at the moment, so I'll add that path and return metadata. | 20:27 |
sarob_ | cool | 20:28 |
MrJoshua | Oh, I have metadata under "AssetsServices" and it's included. | 20:28 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: ill start thread on ml to get the discussion going | 20:28 |
MrJoshua | cool | 20:29 |
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sarob_ | MrJoshua: #action MrJoshua will add separate GET for returning object metadata | 20:30 |
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sarob_ | #action sarob will ping ML on #link http://docs.milk.apiary.io/ as first revision of milk api | 20:31 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: so i resigned to promote the work so far and the work planned at NAB | 20:32 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: rather than demo anything | 20:32 |
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MrJoshua | k | 20:33 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: id like to focus on creating project phases | 20:33 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: in the wiki | 20:33 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: without dates | 20:33 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: until we have at least one full time dev working on this | 20:34 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: we wont be able to commit to any dates | 20:34 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: and no reason to beat ourselves up on it | 20:34 |
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MrJoshua | true | 20:35 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: my end state is support for various APIs | 20:35 |
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sarob_ | MrJoshua: does like still seem like the goal for you too? | 20:35 |
MrJoshua | I'm not sure what you mean by various APIs? | 20:36 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: cineglass, fims, openstack, 5thKind, etc | 20:36 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: aws, gce | 20:36 |
MrJoshua | Ah, yes. | 20:37 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: my vision is that the etcc api is glue | 20:37 |
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sarob_ | MrJoshua: for all the other stuff to get workflows through | 20:37 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: from beginning state to end state | 20:38 |
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sarob_ | MrJoshua: so one of the framework/etcc tools will likely be state management | 20:39 |
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sarob_ | MrJoshua: but i jump ahead | 20:39 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: baby steps here | 20:39 |
MrJoshua | Haha, yeah, but sounds good. | 20:39 |
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sarob_ | MrJoshua: im good with today | 20:40 |
sarob_ | MrJoshua: anything else sir? | 20:40 |
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MrJoshua | Good for me. | 20:41 |
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sarob_ | MrJoshua: then i call a wrap | 20:41 |
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sarob_ | MrJoshua: or cut or whatever | 20:41 |
MrJoshua | k | 20:41 |
sarob_ | #endmeeting | 20:41 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 17 20:41:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:41 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/milk/2014/milk.2014-03-17-20.02.html | 20:41 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/milk/2014/milk.2014-03-17-20.02.txt | 20:41 |
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emagana | hi | 20:57 |
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mestery | howdy emagana! | 20:58 |
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emagana | mestery: doing well, what about you? I heard you were in PTO | 20:58 |
beagles | o/ | 20:58 |
mestery | PTO was good! | 20:58 |
rkukura | hi | 20:58 |
fawadkhaliq | Hi guys; new on neutron. | 20:58 |
marun | hi | 20:58 |
armax | yello | 20:59 |
emagana | fawadkhaliq: Welcome to the jungle! | 20:59 |
Swami | Hi all | 20:59 |
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yamahata | hi | 20:59 |
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sweston | greetings!! | 20:59 |
fawadkhaliq | emagana: :) | 20:59 |
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banix | hi | 21:00 |
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markmcclain | hi | 21:00 |
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claudiub | hello | 21:00 |
jlibosva | hi | 21:00 |
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SumitNaiksatam | hi all! | 21:00 |
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markmcclain | arosen, amotoki, salv-orlando, nati_ueno,: ping | 21:01 |
salv-orlando | aloha | 21:01 |
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obondarev | Hi | 21:01 |
markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 17 21:01:29 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:01 |
markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings agenda | 21:01 |
sc68cal | hello | 21:01 |
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markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:02 |
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markmcclain | We're in the release stability phase of the project | 21:02 |
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gongysh | hi | 21:02 |
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markmcclain | so while it is good to start talking about features for Juno there is still work to be done to make sure Icehouse is ready for release | 21:02 |
markmcclain | #topic Bugs | 21:02 |
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markmcclain | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=Critical&field.status=New&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress | 21:03 |
arosen | Hiya | 21:03 |
markmcclain | wanted to highlight a few critical bugs | 21:03 |
markmcclain | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1253896 | 21:03 |
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markmcclain | I think after many months and hard work by many folks we're nearly ready to close this one out | 21:04 |
markmcclain | unfortunately, that top bug has been replaced by a new one | 21:04 |
markmcclain | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1283522 | 21:05 |
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salv-orlando | I think we should close 1253896 anyway - and file more detailed bugs for the remaining connectivity issues | 21:05 |
salv-orlando | 1253896 is just way too wide | 21:05 |
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markmcclain | agreed | 21:05 |
marun | I wonder if the bug in question is related to holding locks on port deletion.... | 21:06 |
marun | markmcclain: I'm working on resolving that - need to ensure sqlite still works without manual deletion. | 21:06 |
salv-orlando | marun: ok thanks… can I stop working on it then? | 21:06 |
markmcclain | marun we don't sqlite in production | 21:07 |
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markmcclain | or is this a sqlite unit test issue? | 21:07 |
marun | markmcclain: we use it in unit tests, though | 21:07 |
marun | markmcclain: yeah. | 21:07 |
marun | i will look into that today. | 21:07 |
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marun | salv-orlando: you can probably pause until a port deletion patch lands. | 21:07 |
salv-orlando | marun: which is a nice way to say abandon ;) | 21:08 |
marun | salv-orlando: well, looking at the pastes they might be unrelated | 21:08 |
salv-orlando | no problem, I just spent probably 20 minutes on that patch, so it's ok | 21:08 |
marun | salv-orlando: i'll give it a look and follow up with you offline. | 21:08 |
markmcclain | those are the main two bugs I wanted to highlight | 21:08 |
salv-orlando | all the errors generating gate failures occurred because of locks between port delete and update port status | 21:09 |
salv-orlando | 100% of them | 21:09 |
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marun | salv-orlando: ok. | 21:09 |
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marun | markmcclain: btw, has there been any change in occurrence of the first bug since the notification patches landed? | 21:09 |
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marun | markmcclain: I would assume that would have an impact if racing were the cause. | 21:10 |
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markmcclain | marun: the '96 bug or '522 bug? | 21:10 |
marun | 96 | 21:10 |
marun | we still might be racing with dhcp, mind you. but I'd expect a decrease in incidence of nova winning races at least. | 21:11 |
markmcclain | so the '96 bug was a combination of two things | 21:11 |
markmcclain | we also had a wiring race if a port unplugged/plugged in the polling interval that went undetected | 21:11 |
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arosen | markmcclain: where's the bug report for that one? | 21:12 |
arosen | is that related to the nova event stuff? | 21:12 |
markmcclain | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66375/ | 21:12 |
arosen | thx | 21:12 |
arosen | ah i see. | 21:13 |
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markmcclain | we always knew there were multiple causes for it, so happy to see that both fixes have worked to close it out | 21:14 |
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markmcclain | Are there any other critical/high bugs the team should discuss? | 21:14 |
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markmcclain | Any items that are potential release blockers that are not rated high or above? | 21:14 |
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beagles | mm | 21:15 |
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beagles | what's the story with that security group related issue | 21:16 |
beagles | there was a nova side and a neutron side | 21:16 |
* beagles scrambles for numbers | 21:16 | |
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sweston | beagles: do you mean this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1163569 | 21:17 |
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markmcclain | beagles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44596/ ? | 21:17 |
markmcclain | sweston: that is a different bug | 21:17 |
beagles | markmcclain, yup that's the one | 21:17 |
Swami | ls | 21:17 |
sweston | markmcclain: ok | 21:18 |
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markmcclain | looks like there are still items to be worked out 44596 and I was hoping Nachi would be here today | 21:19 |
beagles | markmcclain,nachi isn't online so we'll have to ping him soonest | 21:19 |
beagles | yeah, what you said | 21:19 |
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markmcclain | Any other bugs to discuss? | 21:20 |
sweston | markmcclain: I can take point on that one, as far as ping Nachi ... I've already reviewed it as it's a bit related to 1163569 | 21:20 |
sweston | as far as *pinging* him | 21:20 |
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markmcclain | sweston:ok.. it is sort of related but different too as the LBaaS plugin does not plug the vip port in the same manner as the nova does | 21:22 |
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sweston | markmcclain: yup. understood ;-) | 21:22 |
markmcclain | #topic Docs | 21:23 |
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markmcclain | emagana: hi | 21:23 |
emagana | markmcclain: Hi There! | 21:23 |
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markmcclain | I've noticed you've been contacting everyone to help with docs. | 21:23 |
emagana | wuick update | 21:23 |
emagana | quick* | 21:23 |
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emagana | yes, trying to get all bugs assigned.. so good response from almost everybody | 21:23 |
emagana | so are covered | 21:23 |
markmcclain | awesome | 21:23 |
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marun | emagana: rats, I just realized i missed that meeting on friday. | 21:24 |
emagana | we have some "old" bugs that are not valid anymore with the latest restructure of the cloud guide | 21:24 |
marun | emagana: I'll talk with you offline. | 21:24 |
emagana | marun: Thanks! We really need your input! | 21:24 |
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emagana | so, everything is moving properly, wiki is updated with all High and Medium bugs | 21:25 |
emagana | will continue updating the wiki | 21:25 |
markmcclain | emagana: perfect thanks for keeping it updated | 21:25 |
emagana | markmcclain: n.p. I am done! | 21:25 |
markmcclain | emagana: thanks for the update | 21:25 |
markmcclain | #topic Nova Parity | 21:25 |
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markmcclain | beagles: hi | 21:25 |
beagles | Hi! | 21:25 |
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beagles | So .. whilst reviewing I came across some "conflicting information" about some of the bzs that were judged irrelevant | 21:26 |
beagles | these were the ones about unimplemented methods in neutronv2/api.py | 21:26 |
markmcclain | ok | 21:27 |
beagles | turns out they are pretty relevant and need to be revisited... which I'm going to be doing over the next few days | 21:27 |
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markmcclain | cool | 21:27 |
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beagles | I've started on some planning for juno | 21:28 |
beagles | link in the minutes | 21:28 |
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beagles | so not critical for now.. | 21:29 |
beagles | that's about it. | 21:29 |
markmcclain | just saw that… I'll add it to my reading list | 21:29 |
markmcclain | thanks for updating | 21:29 |
markmcclain | #topic Tempest | 21:29 |
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markmcclain | mlavalle: hi | 21:29 |
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mlavalle | Hi | 21:29 |
beagles | I know folks are pretty busy, but if you are interested in contributing to parity pls have a look | 21:29 |
beagles | all done | 21:30 |
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mlavalle | api tests patch sets have continued to merge. In total we have merged 12 patch sets. There are another 4 that require just one more +2 from tempest core reviewers to merge | 21:30 |
mlavalle | After that,we have 5 still being developed and 5 abandoned | 21:30 |
mlavalle | I am contacting the authors of the 5 abandoned and reassigning them | 21:31 |
markmcclain | ok | 21:31 |
mlavalle | all in all, good progress thanks to a committed group of code contrinutords | 21:31 |
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mlavalle | contributors^^^^ | 21:31 |
mlavalle | with all those patch sets we will be covering the gap analysis developed at the end of 2013 | 21:32 |
mlavalle | 100% | 21:32 |
markmcclain | that's great | 21:32 |
mlavalle | that's all I have | 21:32 |
markmcclain | mlavalle: thanks for the update | 21:32 |
markmcclain | #topic L3 | 21:33 |
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markmcclain | carl_baldwin: hi | 21:33 |
carl_baldwin | hi | 21:33 |
carl_baldwin | Just want to highlight a couple of things. | 21:33 |
markmcclain | Any Icehouse items or is everything mostly Juno? | 21:33 |
carl_baldwin | The only thing is the discussion about wrapper overhead when running system commands | 21:33 |
markmcclain | ah.. ok | 21:33 |
carl_baldwin | There is a section on the ether pad with action items for Icehouse. | 21:33 |
carl_baldwin | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-agent-exec-performance | 21:34 |
markmcclain | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-agent-exec-performance | 21:34 |
carl_baldwin | The rest of for Juno. | 21:34 |
carl_baldwin | Good progress on DVR. L3 agent proposed changes doc is up for review. | 21:34 |
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carl_baldwin | If anyone has any other ideas for root wrap perf issue for Icehouse.... | 21:35 |
carl_baldwin | That is all I have. | 21:35 |
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markmcclain | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jCmraZGirmXq5V1MtRqhjdZCbUfiwBhRkUjDXGt5QUQ/edit?pli=1 L3 | 21:35 |
markmcclain | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1depasJSnGZPOnRLxEC_PYsVLcGVFXZLqP52RFTe21BE/edit?pli=1#heading=h.5w7clq272tji L2 | 21:35 |
markmcclain | carl_baldwin: thanks for the update | 21:36 |
markmcclain | #topic IPv6 | 21:36 |
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sc68cal | hello | 21:36 |
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sc68cal | working mostly on getting patches merged for the FFE | 21:36 |
sc68cal | not much else to report | 21:37 |
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* sc68cal is on a tablet | 21:37 | |
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markmcclain | sc68cal: ok.. looks like we've got 2 items in the merge gate now | 21:38 |
markmcclain | sc68cal: thanks for updating | 21:38 |
markmcclain | #topic ML2 | 21:38 |
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rkukura | hi | 21:38 |
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markmcclain | mestery, rkukura: hi | 21:38 |
rkukura | Our only FFE is marun's plugin migration tool | 21:39 |
rkukura | its in review at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76533/ | 21:39 |
markmcclain | armax has given a +2 | 21:39 |
mestery | That tool is on my list of things to test out rkukura. I hope to run it tomorrow. | 21:39 |
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rkukura | I'm reviewing it too, but am not a sqlalchemy wizard | 21:40 |
marun | I'll submit a patch removing the explicit sys.exit (as per markmcclain's comment), but otherwise I've addressed reviewer comments. | 21:40 |
rkukura | marun: Updating the current review? | 21:40 |
marun | rkukura: testing > reviewing in this case :) | 21:40 |
marun | rkukura: yes | 21:40 |
rkukura | OK - I'll review at least regarding the table content, etc. | 21:40 |
markmcclain | ok | 21:40 |
rkukura | We've got a couple of bug fixes in the works for RC1 | 21:41 |
marun | rkukura: yes, if something has changed wrt ml2 tables in the past week, please make sure I've kept in sync. | 21:41 |
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rkukura | marun: I'll check to make sure you've got the latest stuff - but schema shouldn't be changing at this point | 21:41 |
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markmcclain | rkukura: ok.. make sure the priority levels are set correctly | 21:42 |
rkukura | need one more core on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79511 | 21:42 |
rkukura | That closes one bug and partially resolves another. | 21:42 |
mestery | Yes, that one would be great to get in! | 21:42 |
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rkukura | I expect the have the remainder of the other bug in review tomorrow. | 21:43 |
markmcclain | ok | 21:43 |
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markmcclain | wanted to return back to maru's patch | 21:43 |
markmcclain | I'm ok with it merging now | 21:43 |
markmcclain | and then if anything else pops up we'll address with a small bug fix | 21:43 |
rkukura | markmcclain: I'd be happy to do the +A after my review | 21:44 |
salv-orlando | agreed | 21:44 |
markmcclain | any objections? | 21:44 |
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mestery | None here, that sounds good to me. | 21:44 |
salv-orlando | no objection. If two cores have tested it (unfortunately this is not gated) I'm fine | 21:44 |
salv-orlando | btw, do we need to add a gate test? is that even possible? | 21:45 |
mestery | I'm on the hook to test it out ASAP if we need another core. | 21:45 |
markmcclain | salv-orlando: grenade would be our only avenue, but that work is still ongoing | 21:45 |
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rkukura | mestery: would be great if you could test, but I'd still like to finish looking over the table translation logic. | 21:46 |
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mestery | rkukura: Lets do both in parallel. | 21:46 |
rkukura | +1 | 21:46 |
markmcclain | rkukura: will you be able to look at it post meeting? | 21:46 |
rkukura | If not immediately, I will tonight | 21:46 |
markmcclain | ok that works | 21:46 |
markmcclain | Any other ML2 items? | 21:47 |
mestery | Nothing else from me | 21:47 |
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rkukura | not from me - anyone else? | 21:47 |
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markmcclain | Thanks for the update and the reviews | 21:47 |
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markmcclain | #topic Open Discussion | 21:47 |
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markmcclain | I don't think the remaining teams have any major open items for Icehouse. If I've missed something feel free to raise it now. | 21:48 |
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rkukura | markmcclain: Is there a target date for spinning RC1? | 21:49 |
markmcclain | rkukura: so the first cut of the RC is a function of our bug list being closed out | 21:49 |
SumitNaiksatam | there is a high priority bug for FWaaS: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80715 | 21:49 |
SumitNaiksatam | looking for another core | 21:50 |
markmcclain | SumitNaiksatam: I'll take another loko at that one | 21:50 |
SumitNaiksatam | we also some test clean up: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78457/ | 21:50 |
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SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: thanks | 21:50 |
rkukura | markmcclain: No more critical or high bugs, or just critical? | 21:50 |
markmcclain | Ideally only critical and high | 21:50 |
markmcclain | anything below medium will likely be deferred | 21:51 |
rkukura | markmcclain: thanks | 21:51 |
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markmcclain | so feel free to PM me or raise any bugs with too low of priority in the IRC channel | 21:51 |
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enikanorov_ | can we discuss admin_state vs status? | 21:52 |
markmcclain | enikanorov_: for Icehouse or Juno? | 21:53 |
enikanorov_ | Juno | 21:53 |
enikanorov_ | I see recent proposal from salv-orlando to remove admin_state_up attribute | 21:54 |
enikanorov_ | did i get the idea correctly? | 21:54 |
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markmcclain | salv-orlando: ^ | 21:55 |
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enikanorov_ | i guess we may have lost salv-orlando sleeping :) | 21:56 |
enikanorov_ | anyway, we can continue on ML | 21:56 |
enikanorov_ | there's an ongoing thread. please share your opinion everyone | 21:56 |
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markmcclain | enikanorov_: yeah | 21:57 |
markmcclain | #topic Design Summit | 21:57 |
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markmcclain | #link http://summit.openstack.org | 21:57 |
markmcclain | Some folks might have missed it, but design summit sessions are open the Atlanta summit. | 21:57 |
salv-orlando | enikanorov_: we can keep the discussion on the ML | 21:58 |
salv-orlando | It's just an idea I am gaming, not proposing anything | 21:58 |
enikanorov_ | sure | 21:58 |
markmcclain | Like last summit we will be expect that the sessions have a blueprint associate with them | 21:58 |
salv-orlando | s/gaming/gauging/ | 21:58 |
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markmcclain | The deadline for the design summit sessions is April 20th. | 21:59 |
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enikanorov_ | markmcclain: what about general sessions like 'update on **aaS' ? | 22:00 |
markmcclain | Remember it is not first to file, so if you have an overlapping topic feel free to file again as we likely to combine as in the past | 22:00 |
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marun | i think we need to have a broader session that raises the possibility of more granular status | 22:00 |
marun | yes/no is not sufficient to communicate problems | 22:00 |
marun | yes/no/maybe is also not enough | 22:01 |
markmcclain | enikanorov_: Update sessions typically do not make good design summit sessions as the discussion should actionable items | 22:01 |
enikanorov_ | ok, understood | 22:01 |
markmcclain | marun: yes I expect there will be 1-2 filed on better status/workflows | 22:01 |
marun | +1 | 22:01 |
markmcclain | Ok we've hit out time limit for the week… thanks to everyone who's been testing the Icehouse-3 milestone and reporting/addressing bugs | 22:02 |
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markmcclain | Talk to everyone on IRC and mailing list | 22:02 |
markmcclain | Have a good week | 22:02 |
markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:02 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 17 22:02:44 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:02 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-03-17-21.01.html | 22:02 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-03-17-21.01.txt | 22:02 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-03-17-21.01.log.html | 22:02 |
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