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| Vijay_ | Hi, I need help with Neutron LBaaS - I'm trying to understand how LBaaS drivers work and so am attempting to write a dummy driver that does nothing for now.. First, I created a new directory neutron/services/loadbalancer/drivers/dummy/ | 01:24 |
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| Vijay_ | In that directory I put in a new file dummy_driver.py | 01:25 |
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| Vijay_ | which basically has a class class DummyPluginDriver(abstract_driver.LoadBalancerAbstractDriver): | 01:25 |
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| Vijay_ | and has empty __init__(), create_vip(), delete_vip() etc functions | 01:25 |
| Vijay_ | I'm testing using a devstack setup, so I also edited the /etc/neutron/neutron.conf file, commenting out the default loadbalancer driver entry for HAProxy, and added a line for my dummy driver | 01:26 |
| Vijay_ | service_provider=LOADBALANCER:Dummy:neutron.services.loadbalancer.drivers.dummy.dummy_driver.DummyPluginDriver:default | 01:27 |
| Vijay_ | Finally I created a /etc/neutron/services/loadbalancer/dummy/lbaas_agent.ini directory/file | 01:27 |
| Vijay_ | I simply copied over the haproxy's lbaas_agent.ini file and changed [haproxy] to [dummy] | 01:28 |
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| Vijay_ | and then I restarted the q-lbaas service using cd /opt/stack/neutron && python /usr/local/bin/neutron-lbaas-agent --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-file=/etc/neutron/services/loadbalancer/dummy/lbaas_agent.ini | 01:29 |
| Vijay_ | However, I see that the default HAProxyNS driver is still being loaded | 01:29 |
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| Vijay_ | When I put a breakpoint in loadbalancer/agent/agent_manager.py:86, I see this: | 01:32 |
| Vijay_ | (Pdb) self.conf.device_driver ['neutron.services.loadbalancer.drivers.haproxy.namespace_driver.HaproxyNSDriver'] (Pdb) | 01:32 |
| Vijay_ | Am not sure what I'm doing wrong - any help would be much appreciated! | 01:32 |
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| tchaypo | viju/names | 03:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hello | 03:02 |
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| tchaypo | there are a strangely large number of people here given that there's no meeting on | 03:03 |
| Loquacities | #startmeeting docteam | 03:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 2 03:03:23 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | there... should be | 03:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 03:03 |
| Loquacities | tchaypo: or so you thought :P | 03:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | Loquacities: BOOM! | 03:03 |
| tchaypo | oh | 03:03 |
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| tchaypo | and strangely this is probably one I'm interested in lurking in. | 03:03 |
| Loquacities | so was there no US docs meeting last week? | 03:04 |
| * Loquacities can't find minutes | 03:04 | |
| Loquacities | welcome tchaypo ;) | 03:04 |
| * tchaypo settles in | 03:04 | |
| Sam-I-Am | there was a meeting | 03:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | we also had the google hangout | 03:05 |
| Alexandra_ | Was? Past tense? | 03:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | (which you missed!) | 03:05 |
| sld | lol | 03:05 |
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| Loquacities | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 03:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from the last meeting (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:05 | |
| fifieldt | mmmm | 03:05 |
| Loquacities | Sam-I-Am to add the image elements he is using to a wiki page, as the beginnings of an image library | 03:06 |
| Loquacities | Sam-I-Am: hem, i wonder where the minutes are then | 03:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | me too | 03:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | the image elements thing is on hold until post-icehouse release | 03:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | just too much going on | 03:07 |
| Loquacities | yep fair enough | 03:07 |
| Loquacities | we'll just hold it over then | 03:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | but it's on my list! | 03:07 |
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| Loquacities | #action Sam-I-Am to add the image elements he is using to a wiki page, as the beginnings of an image library | 03:07 |
| Loquacities | thanks Sam-I-Am :) | 03:07 |
| Loquacities | i think that's all i have, given that i'm missing the minutes from the last US meeting | 03:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | great :/ | 03:08 |
| Loquacities | #topic Design Summit proposal system now open, doc slots Wed-Fri. morning | 03:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Design Summit proposal system now open, doc slots Wed-Fri. morning (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:08 | |
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| Loquacities | i don't think i have anything to add for that | 03:09 |
| Loquacities | do people know who's going to atlanta yet? | 03:09 |
| * fifieldt raises hand | 03:09 | |
| Loquacities | yay! | 03:09 |
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| tchaypo | o/ | 03:09 |
| tchaypo | but since I'm just a lurker that's not very helpful | 03:09 |
| Loquacities | heh | 03:09 |
| * Sam-I-Am raises hand | 03:10 | |
| Loquacities | neat! | 03:10 |
| * Sam-I-Am gets to see y'all | 03:10 | |
| Loquacities | i'm not going going, sadly | 03:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | i will be wearing my au de -1 | 03:10 |
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| Loquacities | #topic Summit schedule now posted to http://openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org/ | 03:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit schedule now posted to http://openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org/ (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:10 | |
| Loquacities | so there you go ... | 03:11 |
| Loquacities | #topic Installation guide updates for Icehouse | 03:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Installation guide updates for Icehouse (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:11 | |
| Loquacities | Sam-I-Am: wanna give us the lowdown? | 03:11 |
| fifieldt | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IcehouseDocTesting#Install_Guide | 03:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | ahh yes | 03:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | plenty of patches going in | 03:11 |
| fifieldt | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IcehouseDocTesting#Install_Guide | 03:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | i finally got ml2 to work on rhel this weekend | 03:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | turns out it was an obscure database problem | 03:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | that means i can start on the ml2 config docs... which i'm working on as we type | 03:12 |
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| Loquacities | neat :) | 03:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes! | 03:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | focusing on content rather than making it look pretty | 03:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | need to get people testing the "meat" of the configs | 03:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | hence tom's link | 03:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | need more people installing from the install guide | 03:14 |
| Loquacities | looks like you're starting to get somewhere | 03:14 |
| Loquacities | i promise i'll try and do more reviews this week! | 03:14 |
| fifieldt | we also need testing :) | 03:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anything between the beginning and launching a basic instance (keystone+glance+nova+neutron) ... let me know | 03:14 |
| fifieldt | ask your friends :) | 03:14 |
| sld | that page has changed to be wrong, or something.. i test centos on 'install and configure openstack clients' and it was fine for a +2 (b2 packages) not sure where my +2 went. | 03:14 |
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| fifieldt | feel free to re-edit :) | 03:15 |
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| sld | will do, after i test again, since b3 is out now. | 03:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | i keep saying i'm going to go through and clean up the OSs in there | 03:15 |
| fifieldt | sld, so is rc1 for many things :) | 03:16 |
| sld | right on | 03:16 |
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| Loquacities | #topic Preparation for release - freeze on 1.15.0 in pom.xml files | 03:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Preparation for release - freeze on 1.15.0 in pom.xml files (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:16 | |
| Sam-I-Am | i think we support ubuntu 12.04/14.04, fedora 20, sles 11?, opensuse 13?, rhel 6.5, rh-like 6.5, rhel 7 ??? | 03:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and deb 7 i guess... | 03:17 |
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| annegentle | I've got a Racker testing Ceilometer on Ubuntu | 03:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | its an anne! | 03:17 |
| Loquacities | oh, hi annegentle | 03:17 |
| * annegentle waves | 03:17 | |
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| Loquacities | ok, so that's all that i'm seeing on the meeting page | 03:18 |
| Loquacities | annegentle: since you're here, i haven't found the minutes of the last US meeting | 03:18 |
| Loquacities | so i may be a bit behind the times | 03:18 |
| Loquacities | is there anything you would like to add? | 03:18 |
| annegentle | Loquacities: yeah I realized I hadn't posted them, sorry. Update dnow. | 03:19 |
| annegentle | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2014/docteam.2014-03-26-14.04.html | 03:19 |
| Loquacities | ah, cool, thanks | 03:19 |
| ddomingo_ | summer mentioned something the other day about DocImpact patches | 03:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | for some reason i thought those were automated... | 03:19 |
| annegentle | The one action was for Nick to make a proposal for a new doc contribution system, but I did it for the Cross-Project track | 03:19 |
| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: you still have to copy/paste them to the wiki | 03:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | whoops, guess i should have done that for the meeting during sxsw :/ | 03:19 |
| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: I can figure out the links, no worries | 03:20 |
| Loquacities | anyway, that's all i had on my list | 03:20 |
| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: oh they're there no worries | 03:20 |
| Loquacities | #topic Open discussion | 03:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:21 | |
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| Sam-I-Am | test early, test often. | 03:21 |
| annegentle | There are just 2 Doc track proposals so far, any one else want to talk about doc topics at the Summit? | 03:21 |
| Loquacities | Sam-I-Am: +1 | 03:21 |
| annegentle | One is: Continuous publishing and automation | 03:21 |
| annegentle | Two is: Install Guide Discussion | 03:21 |
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| annegentle | Cross Project is: | 03:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: anything i can help out with? (besides the install guide) | 03:21 |
| annegentle | #link http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/204 | 03:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | "how i became addicted to writing docs" | 03:22 |
| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: config too! That's part of the automation discussion I think. | 03:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's no feeling like git review -v | 03:22 |
| annegentle | heh | 03:22 |
| ddomingo_ | lol | 03:22 |
| Loquacities | lol | 03:22 |
| Loquacities | that talk looks good | 03:22 |
| annegentle | I will write a mailing list post to kick off the discussion, but I want to consider an additional doc writing system | 03:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: oooooo? | 03:23 |
| Loquacities | such as? | 03:23 |
| brucer_ | the more the merrier? | 03:23 |
| annegentle | Well, we know that we need cross-project guides. And I think that we do a good job with Guides. But there's a need for a more article-driven site, such as a support base. Steve Gordon and I talked some about it this week and I definitely want more input | 03:24 |
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| sld | annegentle: like.. a knowledge base of sorts? | 03:24 |
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| annegentle | We haven't yet addressed the Application Developer needs for docs. | 03:24 |
| annegentle | sld: yes - thinking of the support content | 03:25 |
| sld | right on | 03:25 |
| annegentle | sld: and also avoiding getting too boxed in with "books" | 03:25 |
| annegentle | Also, does everyone know we're gathering authors for another book sprint, an architecture design guide? | 03:25 |
| sld | i'd love to be in on that, if possible. | 03:25 |
| annegentle | Not architectures for app dev, but architectures for use cases for OpenStack. | 03:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | i didnt know about that | 03:25 |
| Loquacities | no, i didn't | 03:25 |
| sld | sounds awesome | 03:26 |
| annegentle | okay I need to make sure I post that to the list | 03:26 |
| Loquacities | +1 | 03:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | not sure what i could add... | 03:26 |
| annegentle | Ken Hui is leading it, met with Adam Hyde last week, gathering authors. We need about 5 more authors who have experience designing production clouds. | 03:26 |
| annegentle | Looking at July/Aug timeframe. | 03:26 |
| sld | well, not sure if my experience counts, but i have plenty experience. hehe | 03:26 |
| * Sam-I-Am does not have such experience | 03:26 | |
| Sam-I-Am | i only design install guide clouds | 03:27 |
| sld | production,yes... just... private clouds. ;) | 03:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | over and over and over.... | 03:27 |
| annegentle | sld: I do want the private cloud architectures documented in the community - Rackspace, Mirantis. Mirantis is likely hosting in Mountain View. I think Ken can probably cover the Rackspace archs but let's connect you to him for sure. | 03:27 |
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| annegentle | so many mailing list posts... need to get to posting! Another item I've been working on is increasing docs contributors... sort of in conjunction with the "new doc platform" but kind of separate | 03:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | we need more people :P | 03:28 |
| annegentle | I've run some stats for the last 5-6 months of contributions in OpenStack. There were about 275 RST doc contributions and about 1800 XML (DocBook/WADL) doc contributions. | 03:29 |
| sld | woah | 03:29 |
| sld | thats a lot | 03:29 |
| Loquacities | wow | 03:29 |
| annegentle | I didn't count README contribs. It's probably an unfair comparison, but I'm next going to work on a survey asking key questions -- what's the detractor for doc contrib? git/gerrit? workflow? separate repo? obstacles? That sort of thing. | 03:30 |
| tchaypo | does that include tripleo's clever shell scripts that have built-in RST docs that get extracted as part of the build? | 03:30 |
| annegentle | The 1800 isn't really a great comparison since many many are not really content contribs. | 03:30 |
| annegentle | tchaypo: it includes only the 9 integrated projects, not tripleo | 03:30 |
| annegentle | docs mission is core-only, basically, but I expanded to what I know is integrated release for icehouse | 03:31 |
| * tchaypo nods | 03:31 | |
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| annegentle | Also I want to encourage people to log doc bugs with a lot of detail... people do this already, but I'm not sure everyone knows to do this. Then we find the best location for the info. | 03:31 |
| annegentle | I just sense we need another location for some info. | 03:31 |
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| annegentle | Possibly another workflow. Want to investigate. | 03:32 |
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| annegentle | wow I can type alot even when I'm tired :) | 03:32 |
| brucer_ | annegentle: another as in additional, or different/ | 03:32 |
| annegentle | don't let me go on and on :) | 03:32 |
| annegentle | brucer_: additional | 03:32 |
| brucer_ | ok | 03:33 |
| Loquacities | no, i'm interested, keep going! | 03:33 |
| annegentle | it's hard to measure true doc contribs... because patches aren't a great metric for docs. | 03:33 |
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| sld | I was thinking that instead of additional... now feel free to ignore me here, but... thinking out loud... it might be simpler to consolidate things to one place for documentation... for example - there is the wiki, there is the docs site, etc., etc.. might be easier to have everything in one spot. *shrug* | 03:33 |
| annegentle | like there was a single docs patch for neturon dev docs... I think it got up over 65 reviews... it was gut wrenching to watch. | 03:34 |
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| annegentle | sld: yeah it's pretty much how the world of info works though, we already are pretty strict about "this goes here" yet there are still blog entries, terribad outdated wiki pages, and so on... better to segment by audience purposefully than try to control it all | 03:34 |
| sld | makes sense, just seems some information may end up redundant is all. | 03:35 |
| annegentle | and we seriously haven't addressed sdk users with docs | 03:35 |
| annegentle | sld: yeah for SEO it is a concern, that we don't duplicate horribly | 03:35 |
| Loquacities | it does make a lot of sense | 03:35 |
| annegentle | also as I go to work on DocImpact, I find it really hard to know where to write up something to close the doc bug... sgordon had a better example than I can come up with... | 03:36 |
| annegentle | but basically, he had a libvirt addition that was a doc impact... it needs config docs as well as admin user docs... but an admin user only gets it if it's configure. | 03:36 |
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| Loquacities | hrm | 03:37 |
| annegentle | so one docimpact requires updates in 2 guides, which is fine, but how do we think devs will navigate all this properly? How can we coach them to? | 03:37 |
| Loquacities | can't you then just do the patch in one doc as a partial close? | 03:37 |
| sld | the right entry point and/or seo results? | 03:37 |
| Loquacities | or are we assuming too much there? | 03:37 |
| annegentle | Loquacities: yeah, that's the solution now. We were noodling on "what if there was an article about "This cool thing you can now do with libvirt" | 03:38 |
| ddomingo_ | one other thing to consider here: i've seen cases where the DocImpact was actually already addressed by whoever, but the docs patches aren't actually in the Blueprint | 03:38 |
| annegentle | Then the article is searchable based on the feature, taggable by release, that sort of thing | 03:38 |
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| Loquacities | hem, good point | 03:38 |
| annegentle | ddomingo_: interesting | 03:39 |
| ddomingo_ | i've seen it happen twice, can't quote the exact bp | 03:39 |
| ddomingo_ | and i only found the doc patches by *pure dumb luck* | 03:39 |
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| annegentle | I think user guides and admin guides could go into a support center, possibly. Just thinking aloud. We could do only release docs as "guides" and then migrate content to article-driven-site... | 03:39 |
| annegentle | yeah noodling! :) | 03:39 |
| annegentle | need to be sure it's a site that's correctly motivating (not a junk drawer wiki!) to make good, concise, accurate, updated content. | 03:40 |
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| annegentle | The Foundation is working on a content site for operators, for example, how can we motivate good content there and on a support site? How can this integrate with ask.openstack.org? And on and on. | 03:41 |
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| sld | i like the ask site. | 03:42 |
| Loquacities | there's a lot of noodling to be done here i think, anne :P | 03:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | noodles are tasty | 03:43 |
| Loquacities | i'm thinking that that's a great note to close the meeting on :P | 03:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | heh | 03:44 |
| sld | lol | 03:44 |
| annegentle | sld: me too | 03:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | can you tell i'm tired? | 03:44 |
| annegentle | nice! | 03:44 |
| annegentle | :) | 03:44 |
| Loquacities | #endmeeting | 03:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 2 03:44:20 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2014/docteam.2014-04-02-03.03.html | 03:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2014/docteam.2014-04-02-03.03.txt | 03:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2014/docteam.2014-04-02-03.03.log.html | 03:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | i need to snort one more line of <para> tags... i'll be ok. | 03:44 |
| Loquacities | thanks everyone :) | 03:44 |
| brucer_ | cheers folks | 03:45 |
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| annegentle | thanks all! | 03:45 |
| martinlopes | thanks | 03:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting XenAPI | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 2 15:00:45 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'xenapi' | 15:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyone got anything to raise this week? | 15:01 |
| BobBall | no | 15:01 |
| BobBall | short meeting! :D | 15:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | quick CI update and quick chat about the summit maybe? | 15:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic CI | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:01 | |
| BobBall | So the CI was horribly broken | 15:01 |
| BobBall | for many reasons | 15:01 |
| BobBall | mostly I blame trove ;) | 15:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | lol | 15:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | and now? | 15:01 |
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| BobBall | was added to devstack but using "localhost" as the service endpoint for nova/swift/smt_else | 15:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh dear | 15:02 |
| BobBall | but localhost didn't work in my RAX image due to some weird IPv6 breakage where it was resolving as IPv6 | 15:02 |
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| BobBall | and trove only supports IPv4 through their use if AF_INET... | 15:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | wow thats what it was, funky | 15:02 |
| BobBall | So... there was a seriously dodgy message for a long time | 15:02 |
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| BobBall | But it only showed up as a couple of tempest failures | 15:02 |
| BobBall | which was very annoying | 15:02 |
| BobBall | hopefully that's fixed now | 15:02 |
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| BobBall | other issues were encountered such as the hypervisor extension being broken | 15:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, crazy, but sounds like that should be fixed with any luck | 15:03 |
| BobBall | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84138/ | 15:03 |
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| BobBall | but I've excluded the test for now, so the CI isn't blocked on it | 15:03 |
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| BobBall | I'm very frustrated with the way the CI is excluding tests | 15:03 |
| BobBall | because it's independent of gerrit | 15:03 |
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| BobBall | which means there is no easy way of trialing re-inclusions | 15:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, yes, thats anoying | 15:04 |
| BobBall | also there is no way for anyone else in OpenStack to say "I want this test, but it's going to break XenAPI so we'll exclude it from that CI" | 15:04 |
| BobBall | no - they just commit the test because it passes gate and then the XenAPI CI gets broken for _everyone_ because not all tests can pass | 15:04 |
| BobBall | See https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81565/ where I proposed that this exclusion list should live in tempest | 15:05 |
| BobBall | but that's not the right way forward | 15:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, tricky | 15:05 |
| BobBall | I just haven't had time to look at the right way forward due to firefighting | 15:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | nothing should break XenAPI of course, or its not a valid test | 15:05 |
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| BobBall | Well, we might be doing things incorrectly | 15:05 |
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| BobBall | For example, we don't list which extensions we support | 15:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | right, its something we should generally fix | 15:06 |
| BobBall | if someone adds an extension to Nova and then the test in Tempest in theory that should be enough information to not run it for XenCI but to run it in gate | 15:06 |
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| BobBall | but as I said - I'm currently on fire patrol, so that's not even been looked at yet | 15:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | right, needs some thought | 15:06 |
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| BobBall | no thought - just code :D | 15:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sure…. | 15:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so... | 15:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Summit | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:08 | |
| johnthetubaguy | any major blueprints for XenAPI in Juno? | 15:09 |
| BobBall | yay | 15:09 |
| BobBall | looking forward to the summit | 15:09 |
| BobBall | Uncertain at this point | 15:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | do we need a XenAPI session? probably not I guess? | 15:09 |
| BobBall | I'm not convinced there would be much value to having one | 15:09 |
| BobBall | but I'm only one person | 15:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we usually over run in that session, but its often not that useful | 15:10 |
| BobBall | I don't know whether others think that it's useful :) | 15:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | the problem is it does reduce the visibility | 15:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | and its good to get everyone in the same room | 15:10 |
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| BobBall | That would be unfortunate - but without a productive agenda I'm not sure that there would be benefit to doing that vs arranging a meetup over a pint | 15:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | right, just need to make sure it happens, can I leave that to you to round people up? | 15:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I can help, just I will probably forget | 15:11 |
| BobBall | Sure - why not. | 15:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 15:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:12 | |
| johnthetubaguy | any more for any more? | 15:12 |
| BobBall | I'm not here next week | 15:12 |
| BobBall | :) | 15:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | going anywhere nice? | 15:12 |
| BobBall | Nah - just on vacation at home | 15:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ah well, that can be cool to | 15:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | enjoy your week off | 15:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | thanks bob | 15:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:13 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 2 15:13:29 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:13 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-04-02-15.00.html | 15:13 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-04-02-15.00.txt | 15:13 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-04-02-15.00.log.html | 15:13 |
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| hartsocks | #startmeeting vmwareapi | 17:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 2 17:04:54 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hartsocks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vmwareapi)" | 17:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vmwareapi' | 17:04 |
| hartsocks | who's around? | 17:05 |
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| vuil | Vui here | 17:07 |
| hartsocks | vuil: if it's just us, this will be short. | 17:07 |
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| hartsocks | syerrapragada: ping | 17:08 |
| hartsocks | whoops… sorry thought you were sreeram. | 17:08 |
| syerrapragada | hartsocks: yes I am | 17:09 |
| syerrapragada | :) | 17:09 |
| hartsocks | syerrapragada: oh. okay. | 17:09 |
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| hartsocks | syerrapragada: mind giving us a Minesweeper update? It's been down for a bit. | 17:09 |
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| syerrapragada | We are still experiencing neutron timeouts in our cloud | 17:10 |
| syerrapragada | Engineering team is working hard to fix them | 17:10 |
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| syerrapragada | as of now minesweeper is down | 17:11 |
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| hartsocks | Will we roll back from Havana to Grizzly if we can't fix the issue? | 17:11 |
| syerrapragada | Not sure if it is upgrade issue | 17:12 |
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| hartsocks | okay. Well, I'm sure lots of folks are heads-down on that and adding more hands will just cause confusion. | 17:13 |
| hartsocks | If that's not the case I can lend a hand as needed. | 17:13 |
| syerrapragada | We will update the status page as soon as we get the updates | 17:13 |
| syerrapragada | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NovaVMware/Minesweeper/Status | 17:13 |
| hartsocks | cool. | 17:13 |
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| hartsocks | I'm getting periodic pings from people asking what's up. I've been pointing them at the page. | 17:14 |
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| hartsocks | Anything else on the Minesweeper we should know/ | 17:15 |
| hartsocks | ? | 17:15 |
| syerrapragada | Nope | 17:15 |
| hartsocks | okay. | 17:15 |
| vuil | I kinda have been on point on issues nova-related for MS. | 17:15 |
| vuil | So far the nova computes are working as expected, I will update the page as well should we see issue there | 17:16 |
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| hartsocks | okay, syerrapragada we're counting on you! | 17:17 |
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| syerrapragada | SG | 17:18 |
| hartsocks | So, last week I took this time as a "soap box" to make the case that we need to do refactors in the driver or else we're endangering forward progress. | 17:18 |
| hartsocks | I promise to avoid doing that ever again. | 17:19 |
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| hartsocks | This week, we have Juno open for commits… but a new blueprint process. | 17:19 |
| hartsocks | #topic blueprints | 17:19 |
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| vuil | yep. | 17:19 |
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| vuil | oslo.vmware integration... | 17:19 |
| hartsocks | So… I'm babysitting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84307/ trying to get it approved. | 17:20 |
| vuil | I am in the process of drafting one, mostly to cover https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70175/ | 17:20 |
| hartsocks | vuil: and I wanted to bring up what should go next. | 17:20 |
| vuil | I saw john g has suggestion of combining into a bigger bp or something. | 17:20 |
| vuil | do I still go ahead then? | 17:20 |
| hartsocks | vuil: based on that feedback I think we need to write an over-arching "refactor blueprint" | 17:21 |
| vuil | (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70175/ was kinda hiding behind some vSAN-related patches because it was the first time where we _absolutely_ needed the oslo.vmware lib) | 17:21 |
| hartsocks | vuil: then break that down into smaller BP/work items. | 17:21 |
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| hartsocks | One of the things we need to work out is how we move code between oslo.vmware and Nova … | 17:22 |
| hartsocks | … I'm not 100% on how this should go. | 17:22 |
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| dhellmann | move code between? | 17:22 |
| hartsocks | But one of the processes that made sense to me was to work out details in Nova then port them to oslo.vmware | 17:22 |
| vuil | the over-arching bp sounds more like high level consolidation of 'here are the actual things we are doing", sounds about right? | 17:22 |
| dhellmann | ah, from nova into the lib, ok :-) | 17:23 |
| hartsocks | vuil: yeah, that's what I think. | 17:23 |
| vuil | moving common code to oslo.vmware is an ongoing process. | 17:23 |
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| hartsocks | dhellmann: yeah. More or less. As we define things in Nova that work well and generically then migrate them up to oslo.vmware for later consumption. | 17:23 |
| vuil | I think step 1 with the oslo.vmware integration is convert stuff in nova to use the stuff that is _already_ in oslo.vmware | 17:24 |
| hartsocks | vuil: like this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70175/18/nova/virt/vmwareapi/error_util.py … which is mostly removes | 17:25 |
| vuil | the ongoing process part is taking a holistic view and see if there is other code that has cross-project benefits and promote it to oslo.vmware if so. | 17:25 |
| vuil | and pretty much all of vmware_images.py | 17:25 |
| vuil | api.py | 17:25 |
| vuil | etc | 17:25 |
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| vuil | they have much better test coverage in the oslo equivalent, and it's painful to have to modify similar stuff in >1 place | 17:26 |
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| hartsocks | This is that common "dual maintenance" problem other libs have to deal with. | 17:27 |
| vuil | is this part of the conversion what john g wants described in the overarching bp? | 17:27 |
| hartsocks | vuil: yeah, I think it is actually. | 17:27 |
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| hartsocks | I'm also trying to figure out when the "you should do this in oslo.vmware" statements are spurious or really sharp points. :-) | 17:28 |
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| vuil | okay, would be good if the 'ongoing process', well, being ongoing (™), can be taken out of the scope of the bp | 17:28 |
| hartsocks | There's "ongoing" and then there's "ongoing" ... | 17:29 |
| hartsocks | … I mean the oslo.vmware library has discrete releases. | 17:29 |
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| hartsocks | So you integrate release 1. | 17:29 |
| hartsocks | When release 2 shows up, you use that. | 17:29 |
| hartsocks | Is each one a full blown BP? It seems like that's how they want us to do business now. | 17:30 |
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| hartsocks | Make sense? | 17:31 |
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| dhellmann | fwiw, during juno I anticipate us doing regular alpha releases with a targeted 1.x release at the end of the cycle | 17:31 |
| vuil | first part I think so. | 17:31 |
| dhellmann | of all oslo libs | 17:31 |
| hartsocks | dhellmann: so… does that mean we do an integration effort on each alpha release? | 17:32 |
| hartsocks | dhellmann: and are those typically bugs or blueprints? | 17:32 |
| hartsocks | dhellmann: or free floating patches (which I've seen a few on Nova) | 17:32 |
| vuil | doug can you comment on whether you think each hunk of coversion of existing code to oslo.vmware will warrant a BP? Maybe a new work item in a bp or something? | 17:32 |
| dhellmann | hartsocks: the devstack gate integration already pulls from master, and we are going to add similar integration jobs to run unit tests for consuming projects | 17:32 |
| dhellmann | so for oslo.vmware, we might have nova and cinder unit tests gate changes to oslo.vmware for example | 17:32 |
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| dhellmann | vuil: I'm not sure it needs a separate blueprint in oslo, although if they are large chunks it would make tracking simpler | 17:33 |
| dhellmann | I can't really comment on what other projects are going to want | 17:33 |
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| dhellmann | and I would think blueprints, not bugs | 17:34 |
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| hartsocks | dhellmann: that makes the imported version of the library up-to date. Which underscores that any interfaces we define need to stay stable. | 17:34 |
| dhellmann | that's right | 17:35 |
| hartsocks | dhellmann: and I suppose depending on the project's PTL and core team you have to have a blueprint to make the project use new methods and classes in your library. | 17:35 |
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| dhellmann | that's likely, but as you say it would depend on how the project runs | 17:35 |
| hartsocks | okay. | 17:35 |
| dhellmann | keep in mind, stable doesn't mean the API can't change, just that the old API needs to keep working in parallel | 17:36 |
| hartsocks | in general, that means deprecate API you don't want to use, add new API and get people moving to the new API. | 17:37 |
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| hartsocks | So. How do you deprecate an API in OSLO? | 17:37 |
| hartsocks | Is there a decorator? | 17:37 |
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| dhellmann | yes, there's a decorator in one of the incubator libs | 17:38 |
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| hartsocks | okay. | 17:38 |
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| hartsocks | I bring it up because of issues like: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-vm-ref-refactor | 17:39 |
| hartsocks | Where I'm convinced the issue is with the definition of the API. | 17:39 |
| hartsocks | AFAIK we avoided moving that up to oslo.vmware but if we had mistakenly I wanted to know how to get out of the situation. | 17:40 |
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| dhellmann | hartsocks: you could leave the old code in place, create the new classes in separate (or the same) modules, deprecate the old way, update the consumers, and eventually remove it from the lib following a deprecation period | 17:41 |
| dhellmann | we're still working out the details on "deprecation period" :-) | 17:41 |
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| dhellmann | we have to be careful that new releases of an oslo lib don't break old versions of apps while they are under stable maint, for example | 17:41 |
| * hartsocks wonders how long Java had deprecated date classes | 17:41 | |
| dhellmann | that probably means we need a 3 cycle deprecation, but that's just off-the-cuff and not a real policy | 17:42 |
| hartsocks | okay, so it's a moving target. | 17:43 |
| hartsocks | In some projects the level of VMware code is very shallow. | 17:44 |
| hartsocks | vmware code integration | 17:44 |
| hartsocks | so that means deprecation won't have to go on for very long. | 17:44 |
| dhellmann | do you anticipate supporting users of this library other than the openstack projects? | 17:44 |
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| hartsocks | if it's oslo.vmware then it should be open stack only | 17:45 |
| sdague | fungi: so https://jenkins03.openstack.org/job/check-tempest-dsvm-full-havana/59/console didn't do the right thing | 17:45 |
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| hartsocks | dhellmann, I happen to have been given a project to create a separate open source library in python that I anticipate moving anything really general out to | 17:46 |
| fungi | oh no | 17:46 |
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| dhellmann | hartsocks: cool | 17:46 |
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| hartsocks | dhellmann: fyi … https://github.com/vmware/pyvmomi | 17:47 |
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| sdague | oops, sorry folks, tab placement challenges | 17:47 |
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| hartsocks | sdague: :-) I figured. | 17:47 |
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| hartsocks | okay, so we had a light turn out this week. | 17:49 |
| hartsocks | I wanted to get to Juno planning but there's not enough folks around. | 17:49 |
| hartsocks | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware-subteam-juno | 17:50 |
| hartsocks | I think we should do some data collection on everything we want targeted for Juno | 17:50 |
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| hartsocks | … and we should do some sort of vote for priority order of things. | 17:50 |
| hartsocks | (when coordination is needed) | 17:50 |
| hartsocks | What do people think of that? Too much process? Too little? Let tjones decide? | 17:51 |
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| hartsocks | #topic open discussion | 17:53 |
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| hartsocks | going once... | 17:55 |
| hartsocks | going twice… | 17:56 |
| hartsocks | okay, see you next week | 17:58 |
| hartsocks | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 2 17:58:29 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2014/vmwareapi.2014-04-02-17.04.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2014/vmwareapi.2014-04-02-17.04.txt | 17:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2014/vmwareapi.2014-04-02-17.04.log.html | 17:58 |
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| notmyname | swift meeting time | 19:00 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 2 19:01:02 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 19:01 |
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| creiht | howdy | 19:01 |
| portante | o/ | 19:01 |
| notmyname | welcome to the weekly fun times! | 19:01 |
| cschwede_ | Hello :) | 19:01 |
| notmyname | who's here? | 19:01 |
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| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 19:01 |
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| notmyname | sorry, just catching up. and going slow. | 19:02 |
| acoles | here | 19:02 |
| notmyname | just got to my desk about 3 minutes before the meeting :-) | 19:02 |
| notmyname | ok, status updates on icehouse | 19:02 |
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| notmyname | #topic icehouse final things | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "icehouse final things (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:03 | |
| notmyname | by my count, there are 2 patches that should land today | 19:03 |
| notmyname | and then we can safely do an RC tomorrow am (california time) | 19:03 |
| notmyname | if-none-match https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81646/ | 19:04 |
| portante | I am still hoping the in-process tests will land | 19:04 |
| portante | maybe that is too much to expect | 19:04 |
| notmyname | which creiht and acoles and myself are looking at | 19:04 |
| portante | I am almost done | 19:04 |
| notmyname | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84456/ about swift-{account,container}-info | 19:04 |
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| notmyname | the 2nd there is important because we haven't realeased with those tools yet, and they are currently out of sync on master | 19:05 |
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| notmyname | ie different outputs etc | 19:05 |
| notmyname | and unifying it before the release means less migration pains | 19:05 |
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| notmyname | the if-none-match patch is a nice feature and close | 19:06 |
| notmyname | portante: if the func tests can get finished and reviewed today, that's great to include. but is that likely? | 19:06 |
| portante | dunno. :) | 19:06 |
| portante | just hopeful | 19:06 |
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| notmyname | ok | 19:06 |
| portante | perhaps unfounded | 19:06 |
| zaitcev | I'll look at if-none-match | 19:07 |
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| notmyname | zaitcev: thanks | 19:07 |
| cschwede_ | notmyname: i'm also looking :) | 19:07 |
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| creiht | right now I'm trying to figure out why the if-none-match stuff isn't getting test coverage | 19:07 |
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| notmyname | anything else on icehouse patches? | 19:08 |
| cschwede_ | creiht: me too, but i start thinking that the problem is coverage report, not the coverage itself | 19:08 |
| peluse | fyi, here. (WFH and having some VPN issues though) | 19:08 |
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| clayg | ohai! | 19:08 |
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| notmyname | ok, if nothing else for icehouse rc, let's move on | 19:09 |
| notmyname | #topic tempest fyi | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tempest fyi (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:09 | |
| notmyname | this is really just to make sure people know what's going on | 19:09 |
| notmyname | a couple of things here | 19:09 |
| notmyname | first, I've put some swift-related patches for tempest on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 19:10 |
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| notmyname | so taking a look there would be good | 19:10 |
| notmyname | second, and the bigger thing, is that tempest is going to get a lot more important to us in the future | 19:10 |
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| notmyname | the current discussions in the openstack board of directors is that the tempest tests will actually be what determine what can be called "openstack" | 19:11 |
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| notmyname | ie if it's tested by tempest and passes in most installs, then that can be openstack | 19:11 |
| notmyname | if it's not tested in tempest, then it can't be called openstack | 19:11 |
| creiht | heh | 19:11 |
| clayg | lol @ creiht | 19:11 |
| * creiht goes to write minimal-stack | 19:11 | |
| notmyname | (there are a few other things, but the tempest part is most relevant to us now) | 19:11 |
| notmyname | I don't really have much to add there. this is an FYI about the openstack steamroller process that is underway | 19:12 |
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| notmyname | any questions? | 19:12 |
| cschwede_ | notmyname: but tempest will only work with keystone? | 19:12 |
| cschwede_ | s/will/is/ | 19:12 |
| creiht | cschwede_: that may be on purpose | 19:13 |
| zaitcev | keystone is not that bad | 19:13 |
| creiht | not sure what the keystone requirements will be | 19:13 |
| notmyname | ya. that's the way it is today | 19:13 |
| portante | cschwede_: I think openstack wants to test how swift will be used in a full openstack setup | 19:13 |
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| creiht | zaitcev: but a *lot* of swift providers do not use keystone | 19:13 |
| notmyname | portante: "openstack" thinks there is only a "full openstack setup" | 19:13 |
| portante | sure | 19:14 |
| clayg | notmyname: well that's the setup they're most concerened with | 19:14 |
| creiht | notmyname: except for those clouds that don't run swift that will still be called openstack | 19:14 |
| portante | and they leave individual testing to the respective projects | 19:14 |
| notmyname | right. I'm not (currently) complaining about that. just acknowledging it | 19:14 |
| creiht | hehe | 19:14 |
| peluse | can we propose its not openstack w/o swift? | 19:14 |
| creiht | yeah we don't need to beat the dead horse here | 19:14 |
| peluse | :) | 19:14 |
| cschwede_ | that said afaik tempest tests for swift are in a (very) good shape | 19:14 |
| notmyname | portante: actually, ya. but that's dependent on tempest testing | 19:14 |
| notmyname | err peluse^ | 19:14 |
| notmyname | cschwede_: that's good :-) | 19:15 |
| cschwede_ | good coverage for most functionalities | 19:15 |
| notmyname | they didnt' used to be, but I know there has been some efforr to improve things | 19:15 |
| notmyname | although they aren't using /info, which I discovered last night | 19:15 |
| peluse | who maintains the tempest tests for swift? | 19:15 |
| cschwede_ | notmyname: but the plan is to use /info, might even be a patch for it | 19:15 |
| notmyname | cschwede_: great! | 19:15 |
| portante | are not unit tests per-project enough? | 19:16 |
| portante | ;) | 19:16 |
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| notmyname | peluse: the tempest team. there's a PTL and core and everything | 19:16 |
| peluse | so do they keep in pretty clsoe contact with the various projects to assure decent coverage? | 19:16 |
| notmyname | peluse: I think everyone wants the current state of things to get better | 19:17 |
| peluse | like... for example... do we need to do anything there wrt policies? | 19:17 |
| notmyname | (dodge, dodge, political answer) | 19:17 |
| notmyname | peluse: yes, probably. I don't know what yet | 19:17 |
| peluse | its almost like you're running for some office or something :) | 19:17 |
| notmyname | any other questions about tempest? I don't think there's actually much to do in here today about it, other than "don't ignore it, please" | 19:18 |
| zaitcev | I'll try. If-none-match first though | 19:19 |
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| notmyname | zaitcev: thanks :-) | 19:19 |
| notmyname | #topic storage policy update | 19:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "storage policy update (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:19 | |
| notmyname | clayg: peluse: can you give us a quick status update? | 19:19 |
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| peluse | I've got a small refactor and a bug fix ready for eyes. Have a 3rd that depends on clayg's update on reconclier. | 19:20 |
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| clayg | aside from some polish the primary code paths are all complete | 19:20 |
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| peluse | next steps? | 19:20 |
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| clayg | there is work remaining for the reconciler, and particularlly with container replication - working through probetests and manual functional testing | 19:21 |
| clayg | we'll need docs and some rebase'ing to prepare the full set of changes for merge on master | 19:21 |
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| peluse | OK, can we get some more folks to get the other lower hanging fruit ready-to-reivew patches pushed through so all that's remaining is clayg's reconciler? | 19:22 |
| peluse | ...and docs | 19:22 |
| notmyname | clayg: you've taken over torgomatic's branch, right? | 19:22 |
| peluse | reminds me, notmyname, do you ahve someone good/at planninng on doing a doc section for SP or want me to take a stab? | 19:22 |
| notmyname | ie, you'll be the one proposing those to master? | 19:22 |
| clayg | notmyname: yeah i'm still poking holes in the cleanup_table approach and trying to hybridize his approach with the queue based reconciler | 19:23 |
| notmyname | peluse: we're it. I'll be happy to help write those with you | 19:23 |
| peluse | notmyname: cool, let me know if you want me to start it if you want want to | 19:23 |
| notmyname | clayg: great! | 19:23 |
| notmyname | peluse: go ahead :-) | 19:23 |
| clayg | peluse: I'd like to go over the unified diff and look for drive by refactorings and particularlly cleanup in tests that could be brought over to master before the storage policy patches | 19:24 |
| peluse | so next steps: (1) someone please rview the 2 patches I have that are small/ready (2) clayg to continue wrapping reconciler (3) clayg to udpate github patch set once those are done (4) me/notnmyane on docs (5) core folks review github patch set (6) clayg start to porse to master. Yes? | 19:24 |
| clayg | peluse: I think we've been doing that quite a bit as we go but there may be some stuff that would look find on master as it and simplify the final change line | 19:24 |
| clayg | peluse: somewhere in there is an icehouse release | 19:25 |
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| peluse | well, yeah, I didn't mean to imply an urgnecy ... | 19:25 |
| peluse | but we are on the sp topic :) | 19:25 |
| notmyname | clayg: tomorrow am the branch will be cut, then we're free to do whatever on master | 19:25 |
| clayg | whoo | 19:25 |
| notmyname | clayg: so you'll start proposing sp to master at lunch tomorrow? ;-) | 19:26 |
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| notmyname | it's done, right? | 19:26 |
| peluse | 2 patches I mentioned above: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83252/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83840/ | 19:26 |
| clayg | heh, maybe | 19:26 |
| notmyname | peluse: thanks | 19:26 |
| peluse | maybe eat lunch first :) | 19:26 |
| notmyname | any other questions or updates on storage policies? | 19:27 |
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| peluse | just a huge thanks to clayg for the exyta effort w/torgomatic's abse3nce | 19:27 |
| clayg | it's probably best to get the first changes up and get some fresh eyes on them to see where we might want to add comments/logging rephrase this way or that, why this approach or that | 19:27 |
| notmyname | yup | 19:28 |
| peluse | you mean up on github or up in gerrit? | 19:28 |
| notmyname | gerrit IMO | 19:28 |
| clayg | ... unittest coverage, do we recommend multiple policies on a saio, should functional tests look for multiple policies. | 19:28 |
| peluse | yup, agreed | 19:28 |
| clayg | eah i ment gerrit | 19:28 |
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| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 19:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:29 | |
| notmyname | anything else to bring up today? | 19:29 |
| notmyname | creiht: everything ok in RAX-landia? | 19:29 |
| notmyname | oh, the hackathon! | 19:29 |
| creiht | notmyname: as far as I know things are fine | 19:29 |
| notmyname | cool | 19:30 |
| zaitcev | I'm against recommending multiply SP on SAIO. The install is intimidating enough as it is, and we love new adopters. Functests are different, they are free to say "install SAIO and post-configure it to add SPs like so" | 19:30 |
| notmyname | hackathon link is public at https://www.eventbrite.com/e/openstack-swift-june-hackathon-tickets-8309569145 | 19:30 |
| zaitcev | IMHO | 19:30 |
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| clayg | zaitcev: that's reasonable, although it's really just changing the example swift.conf | 19:30 |
| peluse | zaitcev: agree, not sure I'd see value in a deault multiple policy install on SAIO but back to clayg's comment - I do think functinoal test coverage needs to at least run on a non-default policy | 19:30 |
| zaitcev | clayg: what does it do in absense of multiply rings, then? | 19:30 |
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| clayg | zaitcev: heh fair point, but you can cp object.ring.gz to object-1.ring.gz | 19:31 |
| peluse | yup, that's mostly how I test | 19:31 |
| clayg | zaitcev: but I think keeping the saio simple is reasonable | 19:31 |
| peluse | and if you change swift.cnf and don't make another ring file you'll get puked on | 19:31 |
| peluse | same as if you forget to make the regualr obj ring | 19:32 |
| clayg | zaitcev: the only reason I find it particularlly interesting is probetests which are targeted at multiple policies | 19:32 |
| zaitcev | hmm | 19:32 |
| peluse | double hmm | 19:32 |
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| zaitcev | yeah, we do run probetests in the end of SAIO document | 19:32 |
| notmyname | but that question doesn't need to be solved right here right now, does it? | 19:32 |
| peluse | don't think so | 19:33 |
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| notmyname | anything else to discuss in the meeting today? | 19:34 |
| donagh | notmyname: do you know which *day* swift has at the design summit? (planning travel) | 19:34 |
| notmyname | donagh: there is a tentative schedule that has us split across thursday and friday. it's not a final schedule, though | 19:34 |
| donagh | ok, that;s good enough for now | 19:35 |
| notmyname | k | 19:35 |
| notmyname | thanks for all your work. you're what makes swift awesome! | 19:35 |
| notmyname | thanks for coming | 19:35 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 19:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 2 19:36:00 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2014/swift.2014-04-02-19.01.html | 19:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2014/swift.2014-04-02-19.01.txt | 19:36 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2014/swift.2014-04-02-19.01.log.html | 19:36 |
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