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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 28 16:00:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| NikolayM | hi ! | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | hi guys! | 16:00 |
| m4dcoder | hi | 16:01 |
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| dzimine | Hi! | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | hey | 16:01 |
| enykeev | hey! | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | agenda as usually: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda | 16:01 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Review Action Items | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:02 | |
| rakhmerov | 1. Timur: fix issues with pep8 and configure pep8 checks for each commit - now we have some problems with it | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | Timur? | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | there is also another one for Timur | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | 2. Timur: review commits | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | which is kinda funny, I think Timur has done some reviews last week | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | Ok, looks like Timur is not here yet, let's move forward | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | 3. enykeev: working on Mistral Dashboard | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | enykeev, can you please share how it is going? | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | on Dashboard | 16:05 |
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| enykeev | sure. Pushed first take to python-mistralclient repo, now working on authentication. | 16:06 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, I created an etherpad today to capture what we'd like to seen in mistral dashboard poc https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-dashboard-poc | 16:07 |
| enykeev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90316/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90688/ | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | please take a look at it | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | 4. m4dcoder move the instantiation of ScalableEngine to use stevedore and renaming the current ScalableEngine to POC engine | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder, can you please given an update on this? | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | m4dcoder, you here? | 16:10 |
| m4dcoder | yep | 16:10 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:10 |
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| m4dcoder | i'm still working on the ScalableEngine. i'm refactoring it to use stevedore to instantiate the concrete engine. | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | 5. manask will pick up things if they come along my way | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | I believe nothing came along last week for Manas | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | we merged in his commit where he fixed a problem with retry tests | 16:12 |
| m4dcoder | rakhmerov: i submitted a bp for #4. can you approve it? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-engine-plugin | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, I didn't look at it yet | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | but I saw you put it in there | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | I think this week there won't be anything urgent to do so we need to look at all the BPs first and finish all the POC release activities | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | 6. NikolayM fix next bugs with dataflow | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | Nikolay? | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | Not sure what this AI means, can you please describe the bug first? | 16:14 |
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| NikolayM | I fixed evaluating task parameters (this is a part of dataflow) | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, ok | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | now I remember, it's the problem with recursive evaluation yes | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | it is done | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | and the last one | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | 7. Renat prepare the screencast for Mistral | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | I finally did it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN0HSH-5094 | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | I already got some feedback and need to make some changes | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | it's not a final version yet but I'm hoping to deliver a final one tomorrow | 16:16 |
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| rakhmerov | one important thing that is missing is that I didn't mention neither StackStorm nor Intel in the Demo | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, m4dcoder, in what form you would like me to mention your companies? | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | I was thinking about inserting a slide with contributor companies | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | or just inserting logos of you companies in the first slide | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | thoughts? | 16:18 |
| dzimine | Slide will work | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | ok, then can you please send me your logos? | 16:18 |
| dzimine | Ok | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | as for Intel, I'm still not sure if we can mention it with regard to Mistral | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder? | 16:19 |
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| rakhmerov | Can you please find out today if we can do this? | 16:20 |
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| m4dcoder | i think putting Intel's logo on contributor slide is fine. we don't have any thing to say though. | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | allright | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | then please send me the right logo as well | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | next topic | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current Status | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current Status (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:22 | |
| rakhmerov | let's quickly provide our statuses, roadblocks etc. | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | Renat: fixing small bugs the entire weeks and getting Mistral ready for making a more or less presentable screencast, made a screencast | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | no roadblocks, I'll fix the screencast tomorrow and finish a blog post on Mistral | 16:23 |
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| enykeev | dedicated whole previous week to dashboard and planing to spend more time this week | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | then we'll release Mistral under 'poc' tag in git | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:25 |
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| dzimine | Dzimine: no coding, finished realistic workflows, this week will help Renat prep for Summit - questions/agenda to cover on design session there | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:25 |
| NikolayM | Nikolay: Modifying all readme files, also looking at the dashboard and review it | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, this week we have only 3 business days in Russia due to the holidays | 16:26 |
| NikolayM | and fixing example YAMLs | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | but I'll be able to have a regular syncup with you anyway | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | ok, Nikolay | 16:26 |
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| rakhmerov | so, Dmitri, we'll need to summ up all the question for the summit during our Friday's sync up | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | ok, guys, any issues/roadblocks? | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder, is it going well with you current task? | 16:28 |
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| m4dcoder | yes. i'll should have it submitted for review shortly | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | perfect | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | thanks | 16:29 |
| m4dcoder | btw, i'll not be at meeting next week. | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | ok, np | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | #topic POC readiness and steps that left to finalise it | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "POC readiness and steps that left to finalise it (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:29 | |
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| rakhmerov | I created a couple of etherpads to track all the necessary steps to finalize POC phase: | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-poc-release-materials | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-poc-release-materials | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | sorry, this is the right one: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-poc-readiness | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | the first one is what I'm going to send out in ML once everything is done | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | so I'd like to ask you to review them and add your items or comments | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | like I mentioned before, I'll write a blog post tomorrow, update wiki and we'll release Mistral under 'poc' tag in gerrit | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | I think these are the most important steps left | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | so, do you guys have anything else for today? | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | I actually don't :) | 16:34 |
| dzimine | Not on my side | 16:34 |
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| rakhmerov | I'll ping Timur tomorrow on his action items | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, ok | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | can we finish then? | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, btw | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | did Ivan/Josh reply something about their design? | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | info: openstackstatusNOTICE: Gerrit is unavailable until further notice for a major upgrade. See: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritUpgrade | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | enykeev? | 16:35 |
| enykeev | nope, I haven't seen anything from them | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | I assume they may be busy with summit preparations | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | let's finish for today then | 16:36 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is unavailable until further notice for a major upgrade. See: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritUpgrade | 16:36 | |
| rakhmerov | thanks a lot for everyone! | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | bye! | 16:37 |
| NikolayM | bye! | 16:37 |
| dzimine | By | 16:37 |
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| m4dcoder | bye! | 16:37 |
| enykeev | thanks! Bye. | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | the next meeting will the last one before the summit and I think it makes sense to cancel the one that is on the summit week | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:37 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 28 16:37:59 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-04-28-16.00.html | 16:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-04-28-16.00.txt | 16:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-04-28-16.00.log.html | 16:38 |
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| devananda | hi all! | 18:59 |
| Mikhail_D_ltp | \o | 18:59 |
| JoshNang | o/ | 19:00 |
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| devananda | who's here for the ironic meeting? | 19:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 19:00 |
| matty_dubs | \o | 19:00 |
| mrda | o/ | 19:00 |
| max_lobur | o/ | 19:00 |
| jroll | \o | 19:00 |
| romcheg1 | o/ | 19:00 |
| jgrimm | o/ | 19:00 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 19:00 |
| JayF | o/ | 19:00 |
| lucasagomes | o/ | 19:00 |
| linggao | o/ | 19:00 |
| yuriyz | o/ | 19:00 |
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| devananda | #startmeeting ironic | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 28 19:01:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devananda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:01 |
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| devananda | as usual, the agenda is at | 19:01 |
| devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 19:01 |
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| devananda | #topic announcements | 19:01 |
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| agordeev2 | o/ | 19:01 |
| vkozhukalov | here | 19:01 |
| devananda | first off, this is actually supposed to be the official openstack vacation week | 19:01 |
| adam_g | o/ | 19:02 |
| comstud | o/ | 19:02 |
| gmatefi | o/ | 19:02 |
| comstud | oh | 19:02 |
| devananda | most project's cancelled their meetings - thanks all for sticking around anyway (or not, if you're not here) | 19:02 |
| comstud | well, i'm OUTTA HERE then | 19:02 |
| devananda | please take the rest of the week off :) | 19:02 |
| devananda | hehe | 19:02 |
| rloo | hi | 19:02 |
| devananda | I will be offline thurs-sun | 19:02 |
| comstud | i'm working, i have changes to put up | 19:02 |
| devananda | also: the summit is just two weeks away,a nd most projects have already published their session schedules | 19:02 |
| comstud | i'm about done with taht task_manager refactor for multiple-nodes -> single-node | 19:03 |
| devananda | comstud: awesome! | 19:03 |
| lucasagomes | comstud, w00t! | 19:03 |
| comstud | only tests to fix | 19:03 |
| devananda | if anyone sees a session conflict, please let me know | 19:03 |
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| mrda | looks good so far devananda! | 19:04 |
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| devananda | #link http://junodesignsummit.sched.org/ | 19:04 |
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| devananda | #topic sub-team reports | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "sub-team reports (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:04 | |
| devananda | adam_g: hi! | 19:05 |
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| adam_g | hey! | 19:05 |
| devananda | adam_g: looks like the ironic-virtual test has been mostly passing! | 19:05 |
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| devananda | awesome job on that! | 19:05 |
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| adam_g | yeah, finally! check-tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic. will propose to make it voting next week if it proves stable | 19:05 |
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| romcheg1 | woot! | 19:05 |
| adam_g | if you see it failing in the meantime, please investigate or ping me | 19:05 |
| devananda | adam_g: are you tracking the job's failures somewhere? | 19:06 |
| lucasagomes | adam_g, good stuff, will do | 19:06 |
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| adam_g | devananda, im not, i plan to get some script together to do that. | 19:06 |
| dtantsur | adam_g, great! I think I've seen some strange failure, but can't find while Gerrit is down | 19:06 |
| adam_g | since we'll be running it across many projects | 19:06 |
| devananda | adam_g: logstash might be an easy place to start | 19:07 |
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| devananda | dtantsur: did I see you comment earlier that ironic is passing on F20 now? | 19:08 |
| adam_g | devananda, ah, yeah. good call | 19:08 |
| dtantsur | devananda, yes! At least tempest/scenario/test_baremetal_basic_ops.py | 19:08 |
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| dtantsur | (I am not sure what to try next) | 19:08 |
| dtantsur | I also created a new etherpad for tracking Fedora: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicTestingOnFedora | 19:09 |
| devananda | dtantsur: what's the status of getting F20 tested upstream? | 19:09 |
| adam_g | dtantsur, beside the API tests, there isn't much else ironic specific in tempest. if we can get the agent deployable with devstack we can look at extending the current basic_ops to cover the agent as well | 19:09 |
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| dtantsur | As you see there, 2 patches are still required for devstack | 19:10 |
| devananda | dtantsur: it'd be great to get a non-voting job going | 19:10 |
| jroll | adam_g: we're working on that right now :) | 19:10 |
| devananda | adam_g: what do you think of folks extending the ironic tempest suite? | 19:10 |
| dtantsur | Also, while a lot of work was done with supporting SELinux enforcing and proper firewall, it's less tested, I think | 19:10 |
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| devananda | adam_g: eg, to start validating more interestign functions (partitioning, ephemeral, etc) and integration (neutron floating-ips, for example) | 19:11 |
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| adam_g | devananda, +1 | 19:11 |
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| adam_g | i think that'd be a ironic_advanced_ops test? | 19:11 |
| adam_g | but we should brainstorm about what specifically we want to test | 19:11 |
| adam_g | and what we actually can test | 19:11 |
| adam_g | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicCI would be a good place for that | 19:12 |
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| devananda | adam_g: mind starting that discussion on the list? | 19:13 |
| adam_g | devananda, sure! | 19:14 |
| devananda | thanks! | 19:14 |
| devananda | jroll: hi! any updaets on the agent? | 19:14 |
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| jroll | hi! | 19:14 |
| jroll | so, we've been continuing work on the main patch for the driver | 19:14 |
| jroll | JoshNang is working on a devstack setup | 19:15 |
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| jroll | and enabling us to test in parallel with the pxe driver, do tempest CI, etc | 19:15 |
| devananda | awesome | 19:15 |
| JoshNang | i'm also adding neutron support from the patch that factors it out of pxe | 19:15 |
| jroll | I think that's mostly it | 19:15 |
| adam_g | jroll, how is that going? i remember reading reports last week of chairs being thrown and desks being flipped | 19:15 |
| JoshNang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90233/ <-- factoring | 19:16 |
| jroll | heh | 19:16 |
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| comstud | only 2 injuries sustained | 19:16 |
| vkozhukalov | jroll: JayF: what about approving this bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/ironic-python-agent-partition? are there any objections? | 19:16 |
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| JayF | let me look, I haven't seen an update since my last comment | 19:16 |
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| JayF | ah, I'll leave that tab open for a review after meetinglunch is over | 19:17 |
| vkozhukalov | JayF: ok, thanks | 19:17 |
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| jroll | vkozhukalov: also, devananda needs to approve that, I don't believe we have access to do so | 19:17 |
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| vkozhukalov | devananda: could you please take a look too? | 19:18 |
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| devananda | yes. let me look it over after the meeting. I see a lot more detail than when I last looked | 19:18 |
| agordeev2 | jroll: JayF the same question about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/ipa-discovery-ext | 19:18 |
| JayF | I'll look at that as well after meetinglunch | 19:18 |
| jroll | agordeev2: right. I think JoshNang pinged you about it, but our pluggable hardware manager thing should cover most of that functionality | 19:18 |
| agordeev2 | JayF: jroll TY | 19:18 |
| devananda | as an aside, I want to point folks at the monday morning talk on IPA | 19:18 |
| devananda | #link http://openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org/event/754c3678d31f9f74e020b9a1e6f4dece | 19:18 |
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| jroll | agordeev2: I can leave more detailed notes on the etherpad, though | 19:19 |
| devananda | (should have pasted taht in announcements...) | 19:19 |
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| devananda | #topic vendor passthru | 19:20 |
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| devananda | not much to say on taht topic -- it landed last week | 19:20 |
| jroll | \o/ | 19:20 |
| lucasagomes | :) | 19:20 |
| devananda | #topic allow CLI to trigger a deploy | 19:21 |
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| comstud | hm, hm, OS weeks start on Thursdays... technically vacation week isn't until this Thursday | 19:21 |
| comstud | slackers | 19:21 |
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| devananda | comstud: ahh... well. my vacation starts on thursday too, though somehow I missed that openstack defines a week as starting on thursday | 19:21 |
| lucasagomes | I think the last time we talked about it we decided that the trigger wouldn't exist in the CLI only lib | 19:21 |
| comstud | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule | 19:22 |
| comstud | (sorry to sidebar current topic.. plz continue :) | 19:22 |
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| devananda | comstud: i would point ot that the summit does not start on may 15th | 19:22 |
| comstud | yeah | 19:22 |
| comstud | well, this is open to interpretation I guess.. so this week and next week are vacation weeks | 19:22 |
| comstud | fine by me | 19:22 |
| devananda | comstud: those dates are based on when releases are tagged, not the actual "week" | 19:23 |
| comstud | :) | 19:23 |
| comstud | ok | 19:23 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: right. i still feel that we shouldn't enable the CLI to start/stop deploys | 19:23 |
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| lucasagomes | yeah | 19:23 |
| devananda | i'm not sure who added that to the agenda -- perhaps they're here and can explain the motivation? | 19:23 |
| lucasagomes | anyone thinks it's a good idea to have a way to trigger the deploy directly from the CLI? (w/o proxying through nova) | 19:24 |
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| lucasagomes | I added after commenting on a patch | 19:24 |
| lucasagomes | that is proposing it to be added to the cli | 19:24 |
| devananda | oh | 19:24 |
| devananda | who proposed that change? | 19:24 |
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| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89301/ | 19:24 |
| lucasagomes | Yuiko Takada is his name | 19:25 |
| lucasagomes | idk the IRC name tho | 19:25 |
| devananda | gotcha | 19:25 |
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| devananda | #action devananda to follow up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89301/ and clarify that the CLI should not have set-provision-state | 19:26 |
| devananda | i'm going to skip the partition-api topic because we alraedy covered that | 19:26 |
| devananda | and i need to review the BP | 19:26 |
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| devananda | #topic oslo sync status | 19:26 |
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| GheRivero | that's me | 19:27 |
| devananda | GheRivero: o/ | 19:27 |
| GheRivero | I did some cleaning on the oslo dependencies https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90670/ | 19:27 |
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| GheRivero | regarding oslo.test.... we are not using it at all, althoug it was on the list of the dependencies. Removed ^^ | 19:27 |
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| GheRivero | and oslo.db should be on the way now that gerrit is updated | 19:28 |
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| GheRivero | so if there is no week off, should start landing before the summit | 19:28 |
| devananda | we landed lucas' oslo.messaging patch last week too | 19:28 |
| GheRivero | I saw. Thanks lucasagomes | 19:28 |
| lucasagomes | GheRivero, :) np | 19:29 |
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| GheRivero | no more big change in the short term | 19:29 |
| devananda | great | 19:30 |
| devananda | I'd like to take a few minutes for console support | 19:30 |
| devananda | #topic console support | 19:31 |
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| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64100/ | 19:31 |
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| devananda | mostly because this is a very long-lived patch, which is also a really useful feature | 19:31 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit upgrade to 2.8 complete. See: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritUpgrade Some cleanup tasks still ongoing; join #openstack-infra if you have any questions. | 19:31 | |
| devananda | #topic console support | 19:31 |
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| matty_dubs | Also a graduation requirement, no? | 19:32 |
| devananda | matty_dubs: yep | 19:32 |
| yuriyz | I tested this with HP server, works OK | 19:32 |
| linggao | devananda, I am working on it per your comment | 19:32 |
| devananda | yuriyz: awesome. looks like matty_dubs also tested it -- thanks guys! | 19:32 |
| devananda | anyone have questions / concerns about it prior to landing, once the remaining few nits are addressed? | 19:33 |
| devananda | k, well, pls comment on the review if you do -- i just wanted to draw attention to it :) | 19:34 |
| devananda | #topic open discussion | 19:34 |
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| morgabra | hi | 19:35 |
| linggao | denanada, after it gets landed, I'd like to add the console support for ipminative + shellinabox | 19:35 |
| morgabra | I'd like to talk a bit about neutron integration | 19:35 |
| linggao | and ipminative + confluent. | 19:36 |
| comstud | devananda: do we need more cores? i've had a patch up since 4/2 :) | 19:36 |
| yuriyz | linggao, ipmnative is not stable yet | 19:36 |
| devananda | linggao: cool, i think ipminative+shellinabox is great as a separate patch | 19:36 |
| devananda | comstud: yea -- three of our cores are less active than I'd like right now. | 19:36 |
| linggao | devananda yes. | 19:36 |
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| devananda | comstud: I will be reviewing reviewer stats later this week | 19:37 |
| comstud | ok cools | 19:37 |
| devananda | yuriyz: "not stable" -- please clarify | 19:37 |
| linggao | yuriyz, ipminative needs more testing. | 19:37 |
| devananda | morgabra: sure! what's on your mind | 19:37 |
| romcheg1 | devananda: AFAIR there were problems with permissions | 19:37 |
| morgabra | Neutron question #1: Is there functionality that ironic will need from neutron that currently doesn't exist? | 19:37 |
| yuriyz | ipmnative fail in my tests after 5-7 power operations | 19:38 |
| devananda | linggao: what is confluent in this context? I know of the company by that name, not a terminal service ... | 19:38 |
| devananda | morgabra: ooh. a few things come to mind. it'd be great to have some discussions at the summit, too | 19:38 |
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| devananda | morgabra: pluggable dhcp back-ends | 19:38 |
| comstud | +1 | 19:39 |
| comstud | i believe we'd have an interest there:) | 19:39 |
| devananda | morgabra: actually let me prefase all this with "i'm not a neutron dev, so maybe this stuff already exists" :) | 19:39 |
| gmatefi | morgabra: I'm looking for some improved Neutron port integration, currently in thinking level. See https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/access-port-discovery | 19:39 |
| linggao | devananda confluent is a server wrote by jbjohnso that does the communication through http. | 19:39 |
| devananda | morgabra: hw switch config for lockign down traffic on ports | 19:39 |
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| devananda | morgabra: port discovery | 19:39 |
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| lucasagomes | there's also that race condition on the port update | 19:40 |
| morgabra | linggao: devananda: so, I ask because as part of discovery I've already made a plugin that looks very similar to that blueprint | 19:40 |
| linggao | devananda, I'll ask jbjohnso to talk to you about it. | 19:40 |
| morgabra | https://github.com/rackerlabs/ironic-neutron-plugin | 19:40 |
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| matty_dubs | linggao: I was going through the ssh driver, and realized we could possibly implement serial support there at some point, too -- after 64100 merges, of course | 19:40 |
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| morgabra | obviously this isn't suitable to use, but I think I've learned enough to ask the right questions | 19:40 |
| jroll | gmatefi: we were just poking at lldp things in the agent this morning | 19:40 |
| jroll | fwiw | 19:41 |
| linggao | matty_dubs, yes. | 19:41 |
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| morgabra | so getting port discovery into ironic would require a patch to neutron with this extension no? | 19:41 |
| devananda | morgabra: can you clarifythe opening statement from the readme: "neutron plugin that is suitable for managing an ironic deployment" | 19:41 |
| devananda | morgabra: by "managing" do yuou just mean enrolling hardware with ironic? | 19:42 |
| morgabra | devananda: I can explain my specific use case | 19:42 |
| devananda | morgabra: please do :) | 19:42 |
| devananda | linggao: thanks. we also need to talk about test requirements for pyghmi at some point | 19:43 |
| morgabra | in that we have a cab of hardware that is plugged into some number of ToRs (switches) | 19:43 |
| linggao | devananda, sure | 19:43 |
| morgabra | we wanted to be able to configure the physical switchports to allow access to a particular vlan | 19:43 |
| jroll | devananda: morgabra is part of our team, btw, if that clarifies anything :) | 19:43 |
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| morgabra | of which there didn't seem to be any mechanism build into neutron to do so | 19:43 |
| devananda | jroll: thanks. that helps | 19:44 |
| morgabra | which obviously requires mapping chassis (hosts?) to said switchports | 19:44 |
| morgabra | and I apologize my thoughts aren't well formed | 19:44 |
| gmatefi | what I am looking for is to signal binding:vnic_type = VNIC_DIRECT to Neutron for a NIC id | 19:45 |
| gmatefi | and then support Neutron ML2 plugin to resolve NIC ID directly for TOR port if direct NIC is requested | 19:45 |
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| gmatefi | the access port discovery BP could be a tool to support the DB build-up | 19:45 |
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| devananda | morgabra: i think you mean "mapping node and its ports to said switch's ports" | 19:46 |
| devananda | there is support in tripleo today for the undercloud instances to get VLAN tag data via heat / cloud-init | 19:46 |
| morgabra | devananda: correct | 19:46 |
| devananda | obviously this is soft -- and only suitable for trusted tenant, which the undercloud is | 19:47 |
| devananda | for multitenancy, yea, we need ToRs to do the VLAN tagging, not the host | 19:47 |
| JayF | I wouldn't neccessarily assert that sending tagged vlans down to an untrusted tenant is a bad idea | 19:48 |
| gmatefi | also in some cases for trusted ones, to protect from unwanted / DoS traffic | 19:48 |
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| devananda | JayF: sending tagged vlan membership to an untrusted tenant may be fine -- but the ToR still needs to not trust the traffic coming from that node after it boots into the user's instance | 19:49 |
| devananda | anyway ,the integration point here is not just neutron<->ironic | 19:49 |
| devananda | it also involves Nova | 19:49 |
| devananda | since that is "coordinating" placing a tenant / instance onto the node | 19:49 |
| jroll | right | 19:50 |
| devananda | Nova gathers the node's metadata, including its NIC MAC addresses, and passes that to Neutron | 19:50 |
| devananda | the only interaction from ironic -> neutron today is setting the DHCP BOOT options | 19:50 |
| gmatefi | JayF: in some cases, sending tagged traffic is a must-have. I.e. in contrast to virtual cases, where (theoretically) multiple vNICs could be cretated, here we are limited by the physical NIC and VLAN support might be needed | 19:50 |
| devananda | I would also like to see port-mac filtering in ToRs | 19:50 |
| devananda | to prevent spoofing | 19:50 |
| devananda | and other bad-tenant-behaviors | 19:51 |
| JayF | gmatefi: I completely agree. For instance, if you want the user to have both an 'internal' and 'public' network available in a situation with only one physical (or logical, in the case of teaming/bonding) interface. | 19:51 |
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| jroll | devananda: where does nova hit neutron today? I don't see it in our virt driver | 19:51 |
| devananda | and offhand, the only neutron-to-ironic information flow that I see is for discovery | 19:51 |
| devananda | jroll: it's not in the virt driver, it's in compute.manager | 19:51 |
| jroll | ah | 19:52 |
| gmatefi | devananda: as long as ironic needs a dedicated VLAN for agent operation, some interaction might be needed | 19:52 |
| devananda | jroll: happens before .spawn() is called IIRC | 19:52 |
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| devananda | gmatefi: ahhh. you're right. | 19:52 |
| devananda | gmatefi: well. we need at least a "default VLAN" where the agent(s) and ironic-conductor and glance can talk to eachother | 19:52 |
| jroll | devananda: right. we're trying to figure out where these integration points should happen | 19:53 |
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| jroll | like, morgabra's thing tells neutron to link a port to a vlan or whatever | 19:53 |
| jroll | or unlink | 19:53 |
| devananda | gmatefi: if that is untagged, then it should be fairly simple: when deleting an instance, remove that port's VLAN tag | 19:53 |
| jroll | where should that call happen? nova side or ironic side? | 19:53 |
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| devananda | nova | 19:53 |
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| devananda | well | 19:53 |
| devananda | heh | 19:53 |
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| devananda | i should refresh my memory of compute.manager before answering that so hastily | 19:54 |
| devananda | all the deploy/agent operations are kinda outside of nova's usual view of the world | 19:54 |
| morgabra | so the only kicker is the host <-> switch port discovery and/or mapping | 19:55 |
| morgabra | there's a neutron blueprint for it | 19:55 |
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| morgabra | but should we use that extension in ironic? | 19:55 |
| devananda | discovery to me means: new hw is racked and cabled, and something enrolls it with ironic | 19:55 |
| morgabra | or make that part pluggable? | 19:55 |
| morgabra | devananda: we were thinking of using LLDP on the agent | 19:56 |
| gmatefi | devananda: yes, I am also looking for some "default VLAN" or similar concept for ironic ports, needs to be aligned somehow with neutron model | 19:56 |
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| devananda | morgabra: i assume you mean on the neutron agent | 19:56 |
| devananda | (not IPA) | 19:56 |
| JayF | no, in IPA | 19:56 |
| morgabra | devananda: there is no neutron agent right? | 19:56 |
| morgabra | in this case? | 19:57 |
| devananda | hmm | 19:57 |
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| JayF | Basically we have to know what physical port on the switch the node IPA is running on is plugged into | 19:57 |
| JayF | and there's no way to make that connected except LLDP or external metadata | 19:57 |
| devananda | have the agent (which would boot because the hardware MAC is unknown) use LLDP to determine whcih switch port it's cabled to | 19:57 |
| JayF | exactly | 19:57 |
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| devananda | right | 19:57 |
| devananda | where would the node port <-> switch port assoc be stored? | 19:58 |
| devananda | neutron or ironic? | 19:58 |
| jroll | ironic | 19:58 |
| morgabra | devananda: well, that's part of what I'm trying to figure out. It has to be in neutron | 19:58 |
| devananda | right | 19:58 |
| gmatefi | in my view, it needs to be supplied to Neutron plugin in some way | 19:58 |
| jroll | hm... | 19:58 |
| devananda | neutron switchport -> MAC | 19:58 |
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| devananda | and MAC -> ironic port -> ironic node | 19:59 |
| gmatefi | mac is already forwarded by nova to neutron on port create | 19:59 |
| devananda | ironic doesn' thave a concept of switchport. and neutron doesn't have a concept of physical node | 19:59 |
| devananda | MAC is the common ground | 19:59 |
| JayF | I don't like codifying mac at the common ground | 19:59 |
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| gmatefi | so, if Neutron can resolve mac->switch port, then the concept works | 19:59 |
| JayF | because it can change over the life of a node | 19:59 |
| JayF | if a NIC is replaced, as the obvious case | 19:59 |
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| devananda | JayF: so can the swichport a MAC is pluggd in to | 20:00 |
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| gmatefi | actually, not the mac is the critical, but to forward a unique NIC identifier | 20:00 |
| devananda | time's up -- | 20:00 |
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| yuriyz | python-agent does not have any authorization for commands, is this good? | 20:00 |
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| devananda | let's continue in channel - -this is pretty interesting :) | 20:00 |
| jroll | let's take this to #openstack-ironic | 20:00 |
| devananda | thanks everyone! see you in two weeks! | 20:01 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 28 20:01:08 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-04-28-19.01.html | 20:01 |
| matty_dubs | Adios amigos! | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-04-28-19.01.txt | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-04-28-19.01.log.html | 20:01 |
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| sarob | #startmeeting milk | 20:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 28 20:02:31 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'milk' | 20:02 |
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| sarob | roll call | 20:02 |
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| sarob | roll call | 20:04 |
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| sarob | milk team roll call | 20:25 |
| sarob | sing out | 20:25 |
| sarob | MyJoshua, ping! | 20:25 |
| MrJoshua | here | 20:25 |
| sarob | MrJoshua, ping! | 20:25 |
| sarob | hey | 20:25 |
| MrJoshua | Just recovered from computer crash | 20:25 |
| sarob | sad panda | 20:26 |
| MrJoshua | ha | 20:26 |
| MrJoshua | Do you have Kevons (sp) email address? | 20:26 |
| sarob | i believe so | 20:26 |
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| MrJoshua | Send it to me if you would please. | 20:27 |
| sarob | i think we need to get a few of us to set aside a half day to make some progress | 20:27 |
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| MrJoshua | So we’re suposed to have a bunch of interns now. | 20:27 |
| MrJoshua | I agree | 20:27 |
| sarob | we can collab | 20:27 |
| sarob | over irc | 20:27 |
| sarob | interns, through erik? | 20:27 |
| MrJoshua | yes, and yes | 20:27 |
| sarob | yup | 20:27 |
| MrJoshua | I’m much more open to do that now. | 20:28 |
| sarob | so lets drop back to square one | 20:28 |
| sarob | build out about 10 sprints | 20:28 |
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| sarob | 2 weeks apiece | 20:28 |
| sarob | min goals | 20:28 |
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| sarob | sprint 1: define API model | 20:29 |
| sarob | sprint 2: apiaryIO frame | 20:29 |
| sarob | sprint 3... | 20:29 |
| sarob | with sprint 10 being web services, clients, and API with scripted build | 20:30 |
| sarob | we can start breaking up work | 20:31 |
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| sarob | mrjoshua | 20:31 |
| MrJoshua | Ok, well the fist step I think is that inital meeting and see who we have from erik. | 20:31 |
| MrJoshua | I prefer having a working thing at the end of each effort. | 20:32 |
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| sarob | hey im all for that | 20:32 |
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| sarob | we small bits of success to build on | 20:32 |
| MrJoshua | Then we can point to something and meausre it’s usefulness over time. | 20:32 |
| sarob | right | 20:32 |
| MrJoshua | yes | 20:32 |
| sarob | with the end of summer as the timeline | 20:33 |
| sarob | 2 week sprints | 20:33 |
| sarob | your thoughts on objectives | 20:33 |
| sarob | for each sprint | 20:33 |
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| sarob | we have 3-5 people with 5-10 hours per week is my guess | 20:34 |
| MrJoshua | I have new insights on archtecture now that the C4 project is in place. | 20:34 |
| sarob | sweet | 20:34 |
| sarob | lay it on me | 20:34 |
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| MrJoshua | I think I understand better how we can build a new `type` of OpenStack element that applies a structure to an OpenStack deployment perhaps a bit like OpsWorks at AWS but focused on production. This is a practical application then. | 20:36 |
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| sarob | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK50So-yYRU | 20:36 |
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| sarob | hmm okay | 20:37 |
| MrJoshua | The api componants are, storage, db (metadata), transport channels (ill come back to this), and crypto / security | 20:38 |
| MrJoshua | Storage is arcive, active, local and other domains. | 20:39 |
| sarob | does this line of thinking still apply to using paas like cloudfoundry dea to build,deploy | 20:39 |
| MrJoshua | yes | 20:39 |
| sarob | okey dokey | 20:39 |
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| sarob | so do have a design recommendation based on opsworks? | 20:40 |
| MrJoshua | db (metadata) can be abstract like Karma, but if we make some concrete examples than I think it’ll be better. To this end there are some standared columns that we’ll need to define, I have a list. | 20:40 |
| sarob | sarob like list | 20:40 |
| MrJoshua | No this is based on my work with C4, and it’s deployment. | 20:40 |
| sarob | deployment configuration | 20:41 |
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| sarob | yeeess | 20:41 |
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| sarob | ? | 20:41 |
| MrJoshua | yes | 20:41 |
| sarob | sarob understand | 20:41 |
| * sarob sarob thinking of thinking | 20:42 | |
| MrJoshua | db / metadata has some syncronization modles that we need to look at. | 20:42 |
| sarob | hmm, okay | 20:42 |
| sarob | example? | 20:42 |
| sarob | i have a hard stop at :55 | 20:42 |
| sarob | btw | 20:42 |
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| MrJoshua | one example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_clock but I think we have better. | 20:43 |
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| MrJoshua | transport should have spacificly defined modes/channels. Along the lines of automatic pre-proxying of asset data, streaming, or only for archinve etc. | 20:45 |
| sarob | so breaking down synchronous into smaller asynchronous events? | 20:45 |
| MrJoshua | yes | 20:45 |
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| sarob | okay | 20:45 |
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| sarob | im eager to see your list | 20:45 |
| sarob | id guess that FIMS effort has taken some of these into account | 20:46 |
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| MrJoshua | Yes, within the general model that I’m putting forward and we can all revew, we can see what part FIMS ocupies already. | 20:46 |
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| sarob | nice | 20:47 |
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| MrJoshua | Finally security in addition to general accout/access managment we will want to have asset incryption with spacific proporites, such as sending assets to a spacific person or group, etc. | 20:48 |
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| MrJoshua | Also, sighing features etc. | 20:48 |
| MrJoshua | er signing | 20:48 |
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| MrJoshua | So when do we want to setup a meeting and I can prespent this stuff? And we can start editing it for an initial sprint schedule. | 20:49 |
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| sarob | sounds good to me | 20:51 |
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| MrJoshua | So do you want to talk to erik about setting up some time for this half day think you’re talking about and I can present this for everyone then? Or setup something seperate? | 20:53 |
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| sarob | half day engineering prep sounds great | 20:53 |
| sarob | lets talk via email | 20:53 |
| sarob | i have to run | 20:53 |
| MrJoshua | k | 20:53 |
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| sarob | #endmeeting | 20:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 28 20:53:59 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/milk/2014/milk.2014-04-28-20.02.html | 20:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/milk/2014/milk.2014-04-28-20.02.txt | 20:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/milk/2014/milk.2014-04-28-20.02.log.html | 20:54 |
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| mestery | Folks, FYI, the Neutron meeting is canceled today: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-April/033848.html | 21:00 |
| jlibosva | mestery: thanks, I should more read emails :) | 21:00 |
| arosen1 | ditto :) | 21:00 |
| mestery | Heh. :) | 21:00 |
| mestery | It's the off-week, thus the cancellation. | 21:01 |
| mestery | Figured there may be a few who missed that. ;) | 21:01 |
| Sukhdev | Hi everybody | 21:01 |
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| enikanorov__ | cool | 21:01 |
| enikanorov__ | i can sleeeep | 21:01 |
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| Sukhdev | Ok - I go into hybernarnation as well :-) | 21:02 |
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| Swami | thanks bye | 21:03 |
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| Sukhdev | mestery: I just looked at the session schedule - I do not see http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/417 | 21:05 |
| Sukhdev | mestery: did it miss something? | 21:06 |
| mestery | Sukhdev: It was combined into something else, looking. | 21:06 |
| Sukhdev | mestery: me too - I am looking as well :-) | 21:06 |
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| mestery | Sukhdev: http://junodesignsummit.sched.org/event/685fded37958784c0337681aa120568c#.U17C8-ZdU9k | 21:07 |
| mestery | Sukhdev: ML2 Juno Roadmap | 21:07 |
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| Sukhdev | mestery: I am reading it - it is worded in a bit weird way - under this session includes the following: both bullets are same :-) | 21:09 |
| mestery | :) | 21:09 |
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| Sukhdev | mestery: I do not know how to fix it - can you do it? | 21:10 |
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| mestery | Sukhdev: rkukura is leading that one, so he knows it's in there. Can you ping him to make sure? I can adjust it, but as long as he will cover it we're good. | 21:11 |
| Sukhdev | Sukhdev: both bullets are same - one should be extension support, the second bullet should be error handling | 21:11 |
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| Sukhdev | mestery: OK - will bring to his attention as well. | 21:11 |
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