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| Daisy | Who's around for I18n meeting? | 08:00 |
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| pleia2 | o/ | 08:00 |
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| Daisy | Hi, pleia2 . Thank you for joining. It's too late for you now. | 08:00 |
| pleia2 | it is quite late, but I can stick around for a few minutes before sleep :) | 08:00 |
| Daisy | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 08:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 3 08:01:08 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Daisy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 08:01 |
| Daisy | Meeting starts. Who's around? | 08:01 |
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| Fdot | hello Daisy :) | 08:01 |
| jpich | Hi! | 08:01 |
| epico | hello | 08:01 |
| pleia2 | hey | 08:01 |
| Daisy | Hi, Fdot, jpich, epico | 08:02 |
| Daisy | pleia2 is from Infrastructure team. | 08:02 |
| Daisy | She is helping us to set up Zanata demo server. | 08:02 |
| AJaeger | Hi Daisy ! pleia2 great that you could make it! | 08:02 |
| Daisy | Now it's too late for her. So we will discuss this topic firstly. | 08:02 |
| pleia2 | thank you Daisy | 08:02 |
| Daisy | #topic: New translation tool and new I18n library update | 08:02 |
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| epico | great! :) | 08:03 |
| Daisy | I have to say, now we are meeting a big issue with Transifex. | 08:03 |
| camunoz | hi Daisy, Carlos here from the Zanata team in case you guys have any questions | 08:03 |
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| Daisy | meeting with a big issue with Transifex. | 08:03 |
| Daisy | thanks, camunoz | 08:03 |
| pleia2 | I recently updated the -infra mailing list with some progress from the Zanata work we're doing: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-July/001471.html | 08:03 |
| Daisy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/608725/comments/6 | 08:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 608725 in openstack-i18n "swift should be internationalized/translated" [High,Confirmed] | 08:03 |
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| pleia2 | most importantly, mordred followed up here with what we'd need to get Zanata going: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-July/001471.html | 08:04 |
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| Daisy | We cannot create any new projects in Transifex now, because openstack organization in Transifex has English team, and Transifex changed its policy suddenly: if the organization have English team, you cannot create project with source language setting as En. | 08:05 |
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| Daisy | The worst thing is that I cannot delete English team from Transifex, so we cannot create any new projects with source language setting as en. | 08:05 |
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| Daisy | The issue is found several weeks ago. | 08:05 |
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| Daisy | AJaeger and I had several email communication with Transifex. | 08:06 |
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| jpich | That's pretty bad :( | 08:06 |
| Daisy | They are supporting us, but not efficient. | 08:06 |
| * pleia2 nods | 08:06 | |
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| Daisy | so I think, from this thing, we definitely want our own instance running on our own infrastructure. | 08:07 |
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| pleia2 | I'd like to acknowledge camunoz's help, he's been great helping us with zanata, but the license issue is outstanding and the free, modern application server isn't quite ready to run it, so we're stalled on some things here | 08:08 |
| Daisy | Pootle and Zanata are two candidates. | 08:08 |
| pleia2 | we do still have the pootle demo running here: http://translate-dev.openstack.org/ | 08:08 |
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| pleia2 | pootle is maintainable and we can run it now, it's just a matter of how the translations team feels about where we stand now and if pootle will work | 08:09 |
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| Daisy | Pootle is a purely open source software. Zanata is a translation platform used and developed by Redhat. | 08:09 |
| Daisy | Zanata has dependencies to JBoss. Zanata runs well with JBoss Enterprise edition, but not with open source edition. | 08:10 |
| hashar | (sneaking in, if you are still looking for potential candidates: Wikimedia uses http://translatewiki.net/ which is fully open source and based on Mediawiki I think I mentioned it a few months ago) | 08:11 |
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| Daisy | We had meeting with Zanata dev team before Atlanta summit. They showed us a demo. The function demonstrated is good. I did a compare of Pootle and Zanata. | 08:12 |
| Daisy | For me, the most attractive things of Zanata is (1) version management (2) strong support. | 08:13 |
| pleia2 | the pootle community has been quite supportive as well from the infra side | 08:13 |
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| Daisy | I don't have relation set up with Pootle community. | 08:14 |
| pleia2 | I've been chatting with some of their devs, we bumped into busy translations time + summit last cycle before I could firm up a demo | 08:14 |
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| pleia2 | I can reach out this week if we still want that | 08:14 |
| Daisy | pleia2: good. I hope the translation tool selection could be a team decision. | 08:15 |
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| pleia2 | Daisy: ok, I'll keep working on the JBoss side of things for Zanata, and contact pootle devs for a demo then | 08:15 |
| Daisy | Thanks, pleia2. | 08:15 |
| pleia2 | hopefully between the two we can get something going for you all soon :) | 08:16 |
| Daisy | pleia2: from your point of view, how do you think if we accept a enterprise license donated from Redhat ? | 08:16 |
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| Daisy | I just want to explore all possibilities. | 08:16 |
| ujuc | sorry, i late. | 08:17 |
| pleia2 | Daisy: as with the rest of the team, I'm uncomfortable with it because it means that portion of our infrastructure isn't reproducable by other projects as we'd like, but I agree with mordred that it may be possible to accept it as a temporary measure until we get the WildFly running | 08:17 |
| AJaeger | Daisy, the license is something that I guess the infra team as a whole needs to comment on - and looking at the mails, this is not the preferred option | 08:17 |
| camunoz | Daisy: I think that someone put out the idea of using an enterprise license to begin with, until Wildfly support is finished | 08:18 |
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| Daisy | ok. | 08:18 |
| Daisy | got the point. | 08:18 |
| camunoz | I thought this might be a good interim solution | 08:18 |
| AJaeger | If it's indeed a temporary thing and there'S a commitment for Wildfly | 08:18 |
| Fdot | Daisy, so why changing a proprietary tool to an another ? | 08:18 |
| fifieldt | ujuc, you can catch up on conversation using http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-meeting/%23openstack-meeting.2014-07-03.log | 08:18 |
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| ujuc | Thanks, fifieldt | 08:18 |
| pleia2 | Fdot: it's open source, just requires enterprise licensing to run on a modern, secure application server | 08:19 |
| Daisy | So let's wait for Pootle's response, and then we do a compare among the whole team. Then we decide. | 08:19 |
| pleia2 | Daisy: sounds great | 08:19 |
| Daisy | pleia2: do you have live Zanata website now? | 08:19 |
| Fdot | pleia : yes we have strong dependence | 08:19 |
| Fdot | with this solution | 08:19 |
| fifieldt | should we also submit bugs to pootle and zanata for the missing features, just to get that process started asap ? :) | 08:19 |
| pleia2 | if you want to poke around, I have one running on my own hpcloud account here: http://15.126.233.162:8080/zanata/ | 08:20 |
| fifieldt | eg query by filename | 08:20 |
| pleia2 | but I make no stability guarantees on that instance :) | 08:20 |
| pleia2 | for a proper demo we'll want to run it out of openstack infra proper | 08:21 |
| Daisy | I'm quite familiar with the pootle instance running on openstack infrastructure now. | 08:21 |
| Daisy | Maybe pootle has new features now. | 08:21 |
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| pleia2 | yeah, we should do a refresh of that pootle instance with the latest software | 08:21 |
| Daisy | Thank you for your work, pleia2 . | 08:21 |
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| pleia2 | adding that to my list too | 08:21 |
| camunoz | jsut fyi, the Zanata team is already working on wildfly compatibility, which would make it completely open source and you'd ve able to replicate it anywhere without any licensing issues... if this is a big must, we can raise the priority on that work | 08:22 |
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| Daisy | Thanks, camunoz . | 08:22 |
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| pleia2 | camunoz: thanks, I think it is pretty important to us | 08:22 |
| AJaeger | camunoz, for me a commitment for WildFly would be important. | 08:22 |
| Daisy | pleia2: do you think if it is an issue that Zanata is using java? | 08:23 |
| camunoz | I understand | 08:23 |
| pleia2 | Daisy: no, both gerrit and jenkins are java as well so we already have it in our infrastructure | 08:23 |
| Daisy | Great. Thanks. | 08:24 |
| Daisy | Could we stop here now, as to this topic? | 08:24 |
| pleia2 | yes, thanks everyone | 08:24 |
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| Daisy | pleia2: you could go back to sleep then. If you need, I could attend infrastructure meeting too. | 08:25 |
| Daisy | Now I will update the status of lib: olso.i18n | 08:25 |
| pleia2 | Daisy: thanks, I'll follow up via email if that's needed | 08:25 |
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| Daisy | olso.i18n will be released too. | 08:26 |
| Daisy | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.i18n/guidelines.html | 08:26 |
| epico | cool | 08:26 |
| AJaeger | Daisy, oslo.i18n was released yesterday | 08:26 |
| Daisy | oh. I missed. | 08:26 |
| Daisy | From here, you could read the guideline. | 08:26 |
| AJaeger | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039217.html | 08:26 |
| Daisy | The goal of this new lib, is to separate log messages from user facing messages. | 08:27 |
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| Daisy | Each translation team has the freedom to decide what kind of messages you want to translate, and which log levels you want to translate. | 08:28 |
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| Daisy | Nova has adopted this new lib, right, AJaeger ? | 08:28 |
| * AJaeger checks... | 08:28 | |
| Daisy | I think we need to update Transifex to reflect the changes. Now we have several message pot files under Nova. | 08:29 |
| AJaeger | Daisy, doesn't look like it | 08:29 |
| AJaeger | The several message pot fiels are correct - that's the log level files | 08:29 |
| * AJaeger double checks | 08:30 | |
| Daisy | AJaeger: I'm quite sure there are several different pot files under Nova. | 08:30 |
| Daisy | I'm not sure whether all of nova log messages are moved into different log level files. | 08:30 |
| AJaeger | Daisy, yes - nova-log-critical-translations, nova-log-error-translations etc are the log level files | 08:30 |
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| AJaeger | Those are correct! | 08:31 |
| Daisy | So nova.pot is the file where all user facing messages are. | 08:31 |
| epico | Daisy, will it support gettext context call and plural forms? | 08:31 |
| AJaeger | Correct. | 08:31 |
| AJaeger | Daisy, see my email from 25th of May - "Openstack-i18n] Translation of log messages" | 08:31 |
| Daisy | and nova-log-error.pot, nova-log-info.pot are files where log messages are. | 08:31 |
| AJaeger | exactly | 08:32 |
| Daisy | If we don't want to translate log messages, we could focus on nova.pot. | 08:32 |
| Daisy | Then we could have a localized command line interface if we want. | 08:33 |
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| AJaeger | fifieldt, should we wait for the common client and translate that one? ;) | 08:34 |
| fifieldt | the common client is a myth :) | 08:34 |
| epico | Daisy, I mean "Use ungettext for pluralisation" and "Use contextual markers on short strings to avoid ambiguousness". | 08:35 |
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| epico | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18n/TranslatableStrings | 08:35 |
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| Daisy | epico: I'm not able to answer your question. You could check the document or the code directly. | 08:35 |
| epico | Daisy, okay | 08:36 |
| Daisy | That's all of my updates. | 08:36 |
| Daisy | Any questions? | 08:36 |
| epico | Daisy, thanks | 08:36 |
| Daisy | any comments? | 08:36 |
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| Daisy | No? let's move on. | 08:37 |
| Daisy | #topic Document translation discussion | 08:37 |
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| Daisy | I checked openstack-manuals in Transifex. | 08:37 |
| Daisy | Korean and Chinese translation have api-quick-start 100% translated now. | 08:38 |
| Daisy | So one thing we could do is to create website for Korean and Chinese. | 08:38 |
| * AJaeger has some infra jobs under review to publish the guides to docs.openstack.org | 08:38 | |
| Daisy | Thanks, AJaeger . | 08:39 |
| AJaeger | Once they're live, I'll add them to http://docs.openstack.org/draft-i18n-manuals.html | 08:39 |
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| Daisy | Then ujuc and I should provide localized main page for documents, right? | 08:39 |
| AJaeger | Yeah | 08:40 |
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| Daisy | If we want more documents translated, we could do more. | 08:40 |
| Daisy | api-quick-start : 1077words | 08:40 |
| Daisy | api-ref-guides: 211words | 08:40 |
| Daisy | cli-reference: 1,672words | 08:40 |
| Daisy | api-ref: 3,358words | 08:40 |
| Daisy | high-availablity-guide: 6,940words | 08:40 |
| Daisy | user-guide-admin: 7,479 | 08:40 |
| Daisy | image-guide:9,704words | 08:40 |
| Daisy | user-guide: 11,498words | 08:40 |
| Daisy | install-guide: 20,201words | 08:40 |
| Daisy | These are the small documents, not big ones. | 08:40 |
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| AJaeger | Note: api-ref-guides uses information from api-ref... | 08:41 |
| Daisy | AJaeger and fifieldt : please help to take a look at these small documents. Among them, are there any frequently changed docs recently or in this release lifecycle? | 08:41 |
| Daisy | If there are, I would remove them from top priority. | 08:42 |
| AJaeger | image-guide changes rarely -so good to translate | 08:42 |
| fifieldt | the HA guide is static, but to be honest the content is quite outdated | 08:42 |
| Fdot | Daisy if we want to prioritize, we could focus more on end users guides. What do you think about this ? | 08:42 |
| AJaeger | cli-reference I would not translate | 08:42 |
| Fdot | AJaeger: +1 | 08:42 |
| Daisy | In the last release, we spend a lot of time on installation guide translation. But it changed a lot during our translation, which make our progress shrinked. | 08:42 |
| AJaeger | and it's currently stil lchanging a lot... | 08:43 |
| fifieldt | translation guide is stable for icehouse now | 08:43 |
| fifieldt | the master is changing towards juno | 08:43 |
| fifieldt | it's changing much more than I expected | 08:43 |
| fifieldt | sorry installation guide | 08:43 |
| fifieldt | I mean | 08:43 |
| fifieldt | :) | 08:43 |
| Daisy | I know, fifieldt | 08:43 |
| fifieldt | I suspect install guide will continue to change | 08:44 |
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| fifieldt | at least for the next few months | 08:44 |
| Daisy | AJaeger: why you don't translate cli-reference? | 08:44 |
| fifieldt | actually, cli-reference is mostly automatically generated from the code | 08:44 |
| Daisy | ok. | 08:45 |
| Daisy | That's interesting. | 08:45 |
| AJaeger | Daisy, once you translate the nova client, we can autotranslate the cli-reference | 08:45 |
| Daisy | So if I want to have translated cli-reference, I should add localized comments to codes. Very interesting, but hard to touch at this time. | 08:45 |
| AJaeger | The cli guide consists basically of the output of "nova --help COMMAND" | 08:46 |
| Daisy | How about user-guide and user-guide-admin? | 08:47 |
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| fifieldt | These will always expand, but probably not contract | 08:47 |
| AJaeger | I suggest to take the user-guide as end user facing | 08:47 |
| Fdot | Daisy, I think there is an important subject about which documents to translate. I think there is too many things that are not relevant to translate. We should focus more on UI and End users guides (API, User guide, ...) and to freeze more the content | 08:48 |
| Fdot | Not usre it is relevant to translate admin guide for example | 08:49 |
| Daisy | So the docs we could easily translate are: api-quick-start, api-ref-guides, api-ref, high-availablity-guide and image-guide. | 08:49 |
| Daisy | Fdot, I understand your point. But there are some people who are beginners to translation work, they want to start from easy translations. | 08:50 |
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| Fdot | daisy : I am agree, end user guide are more easier to translate than the admin guide :) | 08:51 |
| Fdot | daisy : the other problem is the documentation is moving to much | 08:51 |
| Daisy | Which one, do you mean? | 08:51 |
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| Fdot | for exemple api-quick-start is easier to translate than the high-availablity-guide for exemple | 08:53 |
| Daisy | Fdot: I agree, revolution of documents is too quick. | 08:53 |
| Daisy | That's true. | 08:53 |
| Daisy | aui-quick-start is developer facing. ha-guide is admin facing. | 08:54 |
| Fdot | because of the revolution of documents and the amount of strings to translate it is difficult to motivate translators | 08:54 |
| Daisy | Both developers and admin could be regarded as users. | 08:54 |
| Daisy | Yes, Fdot, you catch the point. I cannot agree with you more. | 08:54 |
| Fdot | maybe we could thing about a categorization of the documentation | 08:55 |
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| Daisy | So that's why I prefer to start from small documents. Translators could finish them in 1 week, and then they could see it is published. That could motivate our translators. | 08:55 |
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| Fdot | what has to be translate and what is not | 08:55 |
| Fdot | and the has to be translate don't change too much | 08:55 |
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| Fdot | now when i go into transifex I have 3 pages of ressources which is too much | 08:56 |
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| Daisy | I could try, Fdot. To tell you the truth, it's hard. | 08:57 |
| Fdot | daisy i know :) | 08:57 |
| fifieldt | I also think it's important to comment on this to the docs team | 08:57 |
| Daisy | Firstly, we need the criteria of the category. Then we need to understand docs status. Then we put each doc to a category. | 08:57 |
| fifieldt | they seem to be constantly "restructuring" | 08:57 |
| fifieldt | which is disruptive to translation | 08:58 |
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| Fdot | Daisy: +1 | 08:58 |
| Fdot | fifieldt: +1 too :) | 08:58 |
| Daisy | Fdot: let's try. | 08:59 |
| ujuc | both +1 | 08:59 |
| Fdot | fifieldt: just need to stay to stay on the irc doc chan to see this ;) | 08:59 |
| Fdot | it is changing all the time :/ | 08:59 |
| Daisy | #action Daisy summarize criteria of document categories | 08:59 |
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| Fdot | daisy we can define the goal and the target for each documentations | 09:00 |
| Fdot | daisy maybe some documentations are now useless | 09:00 |
| Daisy | Fdot: I don't want to be strict to translation team. :) | 09:00 |
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| Fdot | Daisy: yes but maybe we should coordinate more the priorites | 09:01 |
| Daisy | I prefer to let translators to make their own decision and plans. | 09:01 |
| Daisy | Yes, we could give a priories suggestion. | 09:01 |
| Daisy | When a translator or a new translation team jump in, they may feel lost before a long document list. | 09:01 |
| Daisy | We could give them suggestions of priorites. | 09:02 |
| Fdot | daisy : we could start with this suggestions | 09:02 |
| Daisy | When they become familiar, they may decide their own work based on their special situations. | 09:02 |
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| Daisy | OK. We have to close the meeting. | 09:02 |
| Daisy | We don't have time to cover the following topics. | 09:02 |
| Fdot | Daisy: yes but i think we need a base | 09:03 |
| Fdot | of documentations which need to be translate | 09:03 |
| Fdot | by default | 09:03 |
| Daisy | Fdot: I will keep my opinion. But we are in the same line that we start from the suggestions. | 09:03 |
| Fdot | we could define what needs to be translate by default and then leave the teams what they want to do after | 09:03 |
| Fdot | Daisy: ok :) | 09:04 |
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| Daisy | Fdot, we could. we could do like suggestions. If Russian team don't have time to work on it, we could not force them to do. | 09:04 |
| Daisy | Documents are not like codes. They don't have specific release time lines. | 09:05 |
| Fdot | daisy i am agree with you we must not force translation teams | 09:05 |
| Daisy | Thanks all for joining. Let's keep contact off line. | 09:05 |
| Fdot | but a priority suggestion list could be very helpful for all the translatores communities | 09:06 |
| Daisy | Agree, Fdot | 09:06 |
| Fdot | sometime alignment is nice :) | 09:06 |
| Daisy | Let's do it together. | 09:06 |
| fifieldt | thanks Daisy :") | 09:06 |
| Fdot | thanks Daisy for this discussion :) | 09:07 |
| Daisy | I will draft the criteria, then you revise it, Fdot. :) | 09:07 |
| Fdot | Daisy: no problem :) | 09:07 |
| Daisy | Thanks. | 09:08 |
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| Daisy | Close the meeting now. | 09:08 |
| Daisy | #endmeeting | 09:08 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 3 09:08:06 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:08 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-07-03-08.01.html | 09:08 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-07-03-08.01.txt | 09:08 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-07-03-08.01.log.html | 09:08 |
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| epico | thanks Daisy | 09:08 |
| Fdot | thanks all :) | 09:08 |
| Fdot | Talk you soon | 09:08 |
| ujuc | :) | 09:08 |
| Fdot | have a good day/night :) | 09:08 |
| Daisy | thank you, epico. If you have interests to the olso.i18n code, I could give you some links. | 09:08 |
| Daisy | Thank you for attending, ujuc. :) I think, Korean web page will be ready soon. | 09:09 |
| ujuc | yeb :) | 09:09 |
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| epico | Daisy, thanks, links is useful. But currently I am busy with fedora dev, maybe check it later. | 09:10 |
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| Daisy | ok | 09:13 |
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| jorgem | hello everyone | 13:59 |
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| sballe_ | Morning :-) | 14:00 |
| rm_work | o/ | 14:00 |
| markmcclain | o/ | 14:00 |
| xgerman | morning | 14:00 |
| dlundquist | Good morning | 14:00 |
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| samuelbercovici | hello | 14:01 |
| vjay | Hello | 14:01 |
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| jorgem | markmcclain: How do you start the meeting again? #start-meeting | 14:02 |
| blogan | hello | 14:02 |
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| jorgem | #startmeeting | 14:02 |
| openstack | jorgem: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 14:02 |
| markmcclain | # startmeeting <meeting name> | 14:02 |
| markmcclain | (remove the space) | 14:02 |
| enikanorov | hi | 14:02 |
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| TrevorV_ | o/ | 14:03 |
| dougwig | o/ | 14:03 |
| dougwig | steering from eavesdrop: | 14:03 |
| dougwig | #startmeeting neutron lbaas | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 3 14:03:36 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_lbaas' | 14:03 |
| ptoohill_ | o/ | 14:03 |
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| jorgem | there we go | 14:03 |
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| enikanorov | dougwig: you'll need to #endmeeting afterwards | 14:03 |
| sballe_ | :) | 14:03 |
| jorgem | I was looking for the proper topic name | 14:04 |
| jorgem | lol | 14:04 |
| dougwig | enikanorov: thanks | 14:04 |
| dougwig | stealing, not steering. weird autocorrect. | 14:04 |
| jorgem | Alright so all i have on the agenda is what Brandon put on the ML | 14:04 |
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| xgerman | go blogan! | 14:05 |
| jorgem | 1) Are shim layers really needed for Juno? | 14:05 |
| jorgem | - If the old API and new API will coexist independently, why is a | 14:05 |
| jorgem | shim layer needed? | 14:05 |
| jorgem | - Has the caveat that the pools resource can exist | 14:05 |
| jorgem | independently in both APIs. This can be accomplished by | 14:05 |
| jorgem | renaming new API pools to something different or by doing a | 14:05 |
| jorgem | shim for the pool resource. | 14:05 |
| jorgem | 2) Should the agent refactoring be included in the main object | 14:05 |
| jorgem | object model refactor? The plugin might be able to just call the | 14:05 |
| jorgem | namespace driver directly, with some modification. | 14:05 |
| jorgem | 3) Status of entities that only exist in the database and not in | 14:05 |
| jorgem | a backend (i.e. they are not linked to an existing load balancer) | 14:05 |
| dougwig | #topic shim layers | 14:05 |
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| jorgem | would anyone like to add anything to the agenda before we start? | 14:05 |
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| blogan | update on the nodepools, I've found a decent way to allow both API versions to have pools | 14:06 |
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| vjay | Yes. I want to add one more to it. what about enhancements to drivers | 14:06 |
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| jorgem | So looks like we are trying to decide on a direction here. | 14:07 |
| samuelbercovici | would like to add exepctation for when the "core" code will land in gerrit | 14:07 |
| markmcclain | blogan: cool | 14:07 |
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| jorgem | blogan: Would you like to enlighten us? | 14:08 |
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| blogan | jorgem: it'd be a long conversation and dont want to take up too much time | 14:08 |
| blogan | the code will be up in gerrit soon to review | 14:08 |
| blogan | markmcclain: do you think the shim layer is needed if both api version can live independently at the same time? | 14:09 |
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| blogan | at least is a shim layer needed until the old version is removed? | 14:09 |
| dlundquist | So is the intention to land both persistence layers side by side in Juno? | 14:10 |
| vjay | jorgem: i want to add one item to agenda. Can the existing drivers continue to be enhanced in Juno release? | 14:10 |
| markmcclain | the idea of the shim is that the data model coverges now | 14:10 |
| jorgem | vjay: added | 14:10 |
| dougwig | blogan: how will that mesh with out plan to not update horizon, but instead let it hit the old entry points? | 14:10 |
| markmcclain | s/coverges/converges/ | 14:10 |
| dougwig | s/out/our/ | 14:10 |
| blogan | markmcclain: you mean they converge on just name? | 14:10 |
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| markmcclain | no.. the actual internal representation | 14:11 |
| blogan | dougwig: i dont see that affecting anything, the old api still serves requests like it always has and responds like it always has | 14:11 |
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| jorgem | dougwig: Wouldn't horizon just choose one of the versions? Preferably the new one. | 14:11 |
| blogan | markmcclain: well there are separate models and separate tables for both versions | 14:12 |
| dougwig | right, but which set of drivers? no shim, old entry points, presumably it only ever uses old drivers? | 14:12 |
| dougwig | (w.r.t. horizon) | 14:12 |
| jorgem | dougwig: Or rather, horizon would update eventually and still use v1 which will still work? | 14:12 |
| xgerman | separate data models worry me. We will end up instead of a migration with some merging | 14:12 |
| samuelbercovici | was there a decision not to fix horizon to use the new api? | 14:12 |
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| markmcclain | blogan: so what's the upgrade path is we have separate versions? | 14:13 |
| markmcclain | s/is/if/ | 14:13 |
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| blogan | markmcclain: i would say no upgrade path is needed for juno, but once the old API is actually removed there will need to be a shim of some kind and a data migration script for existing deployments? | 14:14 |
| blogan | markmcclain: i could be totaly missing something so please tell me if I am all wrong | 14:14 |
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| xgerman | so we won't allow running both versions in parallel? | 14:14 |
| samuelbercovici | repeat: was there a decision not to fix horizon to use the new api? | 14:15 |
| blogan | dougwig: the old drivers remain in v1 but the driver maintainers should know that they need to upgrade their drivers to the new version | 14:15 |
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| blogan | samuelbercovici: that hasn't been discussed yet, as I said in the email | 14:15 |
| markmcclain | blogan: we could go that route, but I'd prefer us to not need to support 2 different internal paths for 12-15 mos | 14:15 |
| markmcclain | hence the shim | 14:15 |
| samuelbercovici | blogan:10x | 14:15 |
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| jorgem | xgerman: I was imagining both v1 and v2 would run in parallel with separate drivers. v1 would be marked as deprecated which would give anyone a cycle or two to move to v2 | 14:16 |
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| dougwig | blogan: right, but the old horizon plan as i understood it was to let it call v1, the new model would figure out which driver to call (old or new), and then functionality wouldn't change until horizon was updated. this plan means only old functionality, old drivers, until horizon is updated, which wasn't planned for juno? so new drivers are just api only? | 14:16 |
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| blogan | markmcclain: wouldn't it be akin to having an actual v2 of the API that still works but isn't supported any longer? | 14:16 |
| jorgem | xgerman: thus, no new dev work would be done on v1 during its deprecated life. Only major bug fixes. | 14:16 |
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| markmcclain | we can have side-by-side for now, but after we get working code I'd really like to see a v1 rest api shim | 14:17 |
| xgerman | me, too, writing to two sets of DB tables worries me for the migration | 14:18 |
| sballe_ | markmcclain, +1 | 14:18 |
| blogan | markmcclain: ok that can be done, I'm just worried about thousands of lines of code hitting in one blueprint | 14:18 |
| markmcclain | blogan: understood | 14:18 |
| samuelbercovici | blogan:+1 | 14:18 |
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| jorgem | xgerman: Could you elaborate? I thought we were trying to create interfaces that allowed for v2 to be separated easily? | 14:19 |
| samuelbercovici | markmcclain: would you suggest trying to do both new api + shims in one or have it in two or more steps? | 14:19 |
| TrevorV_ | Just for understanding, an "api shim" is a translation layer between v1 and v2 calls right? | 14:19 |
| blogan | dougwig: are you saying we agreed that horizon would be updated as well for the new API? | 14:19 |
| xgerman | ok, if we have v1->v1 tables in the DB, and v2->v2 tables in the DB we eventually need to merge that | 14:19 |
| xgerman | it's easier to merge into an empty table set | 14:20 |
| blogan | TrevorV_: yes and another shim to translate new model to old model for old drivers to understand | 14:20 |
| dougwig | blogan: i think your suggestion means that either we accelerate juno to use the new api, and we must get all the drivers updated, or new drivers will not be exposed in horizon in juno. | 14:20 |
| markmcclain | samuelbercovici: two steps would be acceptable | 14:20 |
| dougwig | /accelerate juno/accelerate juno horizon/ | 14:20 |
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| samuelbercovici | so can we agree to split in two steps. this will release work dependent on availability of new model and hopefully reduce the review cycle | 14:21 |
| blogan | dougwig: ok I understand now, that is something that should be discussed then | 14:21 |
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| samuelbercovici | fo the 1st step | 14:22 |
| sballe_ | dougwig, My experience with Horizon is that the merge into Horizon cannot be "accelerated". It rakes a lot of time ot get changes accpeted into Horizon :( | 14:22 |
| sballe_ | s/takes | 14:22 |
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| markmcclain | sballe_: amotoki is a core on both Neutron and Horizon | 14:22 |
| samuelbercovici | markmcclain: besides amotoki, is there anyone else in horizon that can assist? | 14:23 |
| sballe_ | markmcclain, Understood that might help | 14:23 |
| markmcclain | sballe_: once we have code ready for horizon he's usually helped us get the needed reviews | 14:23 |
| samuelbercovici | assuming someone else implements | 14:23 |
| jorgem | sballe_: I agree. As long as Horizon doesn't break by adding v2 I think we should be okay. From our dev with our GUI team here that is totally doable. | 14:23 |
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| jorgem | we release features via API all the time and our GUI eventually catches up. | 14:24 |
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| samuelbercovici | jorgem: do you have contirbuturs to horizon? | 14:24 |
| sballe_ | jorgem, +1 | 14:24 |
| dougwig | i'm fine with splitting the review, if the shim or horizon is still targeted for juno. maybe there's precedent for the api/horizon being out of sync for a major release? seems odd to me. | 14:24 |
| markmcclain | jorgem: my guess is horizon will need to have both v1 and v2 support selectable by config, but we should engage the horizon team to understand their preference | 14:24 |
| jorgem | samuelbercovici: I think we do. I can try to hunt some of them down. | 14:24 |
| markmcclain | I think if we can get v2 by juno-2 | 14:24 |
| markmcclain | then we can work on the shim and horizon support in j3 | 14:24 |
| sballe_ | I don't see horizon as crucial for juno. All the new features always start with cli only and then horizon catches up. It is not like v2 is going to be GA anyway by juno. | 14:25 |
| samuelbercovici | jorgem: assuming the api will be very soon available, can you get someone from them to commit to do the ui? | 14:25 |
| blogan | dougwig: you really are just talking about the shim layer that will translate new model to old model for all drivers correct? so I think that is something that can be worked on in a parallel blueprint and make it in juno | 14:25 |
| jorgem | samuelbercovici: I can try. No guarantees though! :) | 14:25 |
| samuelbercovici | jorgem: cool | 14:25 |
| xgerman | bloga - that would be great | 14:25 |
| dougwig | blogan: yes, the backend shim, not the frontend. | 14:25 |
| jorgem | Does anyone else have Horizon devs? | 14:25 |
| TrevorV_ | worst case, jorgem, one of our team can focus some effort into Horizon-related code. | 14:26 |
| sballe_ | jorgem, we have some but they are working on other projects | 14:26 |
| xgerman | same here | 14:26 |
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| jorgem | #action Engage with Horizon devs for feasibility of development | 14:26 |
| jorgem | Shall we move on to next item? | 14:27 |
| blogan | #action create separate blueprint from backend shim | 14:27 |
| samuelbercovici | also should put as action split the work to core and shim | 14:27 |
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| xgerman | +1 | 14:27 |
| blogan | samuelbercovici: i read your mind | 14:27 |
| dougwig | blogan: i'll get with you later today about the shim. | 14:27 |
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| samuelbercovici | blogan: yep..as demonstarted before and faster than light | 14:27 |
| jorgem | okay lets move to next topic. | 14:27 |
| dougwig | #topic Should the agent refactoring be included in the main object object model refactor | 14:27 |
| blogan | dougwig: ok sounds good | 14:27 |
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| jorgem | 2) Should the agent refactoring be included in the main object | 14:27 |
| jorgem | object model refactor? The plugin might be able to just call the | 14:27 |
| jorgem | namespace driver directly, with some modification. | 14:27 |
| jorgem | blogan: What are your thoughts on this? | 14:28 |
| blogan | so this is also related to keeping the review more manageable | 14:28 |
| markmcclain | so I these can be a series of reviews | 14:28 |
| samuelbercovici | well. looking at some vendor's implementation they look like using the agent so this might make sense to have a new agent for the new api | 14:28 |
| markmcclain | s/I// | 14:28 |
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| blogan | markmcclain: do you mean the first review will be the core refactor, the second the shim, the third the agent | 14:29 |
| blogan | or some other order | 14:29 |
| dougwig | (or the second and third in parallel) | 14:30 |
| markmcclain | I'm indifferent on the order of 2 & 3 | 14:30 |
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| blogan | me too | 14:30 |
| samuelbercovici | my only concern is that it will be difficult to get tempest tests working without a reference implementation | 14:30 |
| markmcclain | I think core, agent, shim seems a little more natural given the current work in the pipeline | 14:31 |
| blogan | okay so separate blueprint for agent refactor/new agent | 14:31 |
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| markmcclain | samuelbercovici: +1 | 14:31 |
| dougwig | #action separate blueprint for agent refactor/new agent | 14:31 |
| dougwig | move on, or any other discussion on this point? | 14:32 |
| blogan | samuelbercovici: I think the reference implementation can be modified fairly easily to not use the agent, but I would need to do some more research on that for sure | 14:32 |
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| dougwig | #topic Status of entities that only exist in the database and not in a backend | 14:32 |
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| samuelbercovici | blogan: idealy if we get the first commit to work end to end without major effort, it might be resonable to do so | 14:32 |
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| blogan | #action implement namespace_driver to work with new data model | 14:33 |
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| samuelbercovici | and then fix it with a "new" agent | 14:33 |
| blogan | samuelbercovici: indeed | 14:33 |
| blogan | so this next topic, I know we discussed at the midcycle meetup, but I don't know if we came to a definite decision | 14:33 |
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| blogan | its a question of should an entity that only exists int he database have an initial status of PENDING_CREATE or ACTIVE | 14:34 |
| samuelbercovici | blogan: should such entity even have a status? | 14:34 |
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| xgerman | which entities do you have oin mind? | 14:35 |
| blogan | samuelbercovici: once it is linked to a load balancer it probably does | 14:35 |
| samuelbercovici | ic | 14:35 |
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| blogan | xgerman: for example, a user creates a pool, but since that pool is not linked to a listener yet, should that status be ACTIVE or PENDING_CREATE | 14:35 |
| dougwig | if you have a listener with no LB, and mark it ACTIVE, and then pass the LB and listener to a driver later, and the listener creation fails, it would then go from ACTIVE to ERROR? | 14:35 |
| jorgem | blogan: We might have to make a new status | 14:35 |
| blogan | dougwig: thats what I'm currently doing, but I wanted to make sure everyone agreed | 14:35 |
| jorgem | blogan: Both of those are misleading | 14:36 |
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| samuelbercovici | well. the way the model is shaping is that there is no reuse so entities created should be linked to a living object hence not sure if you can get to such a state | 14:36 |
| xgerman | jorgem +1 | 14:36 |
| sballe_ | jorgem, +1 I agree it looks like this is a new status | 14:36 |
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| TrevorV_ | PENDING_CREATE in the case that it has yet to be driver-created doesn't sound misleading to me... | 14:36 |
| dougwig | if the status is whether it's in the db and backend, pending_update is appropriate. what is the intent of the current state definitions? | 14:36 |
| samuelbercovici | can you create a listener which is not connected to an lb? | 14:36 |
| xgerman | What about "SCHEDULED"? | 14:37 |
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| blogan | samuelbercovici: yes you can | 14:37 |
| dougwig | samuelbercovici: yes, as part of the eventual shift to many-to-many links (which i do not like, but still, if it's headed that way, it has to be a first level object.) | 14:37 |
| sballe_ | SCHEDULED is mis-leading. | 14:37 |
| samuelbercovici | oh, ic | 14:37 |
| TrevorV_ | samuelbercovici: I was under the impression we were supporting the creation of every major object in an isolated fashion... Without the necessity to point it to another object | 14:37 |
| jorgem | So one thing that relates to statuses is locking. We need to lock entities from multiple updates at the same time. The more statuses we have the more complicated the locking mechanism becomes. | 14:38 |
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| sballe_ | I would suggest something more like PENDING_ACTIVE so it is pending further work but the part that is done is ACTIVE | 14:38 |
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| samuelbercovici | TrevorV_: theoreticaly, yes, but i thought there was a decision to not support many to many | 14:38 |
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| blogan | sballe_: what about QUEUED? | 14:38 |
| sballe_ | QUEUED would work. | 14:38 |
| xgerman | +1 | 14:38 |
| xgerman | shorter is better | 14:39 |
| blogan | sameulbercovici: there was a decision that enough people want it then implement it after | 14:39 |
| TrevorV_ | samuelbercovici: initially yes, but the desire for it shows that we'll probably have an update to support that in the future. Don't quote me though :D | 14:39 |
| sballe_ | but it doesn't reflect the fact taht you already have somethign taht has completed | 14:39 |
| dougwig | is pending_create already defined to mean this? by that i mean, are we inferring too much from it's name, but the state really exists to be exactly what we're talking about here? | 14:39 |
| jorgem | sballe_: I vote for QUEUED over SCHEDULED since that is the reality of it. It also tells the user that we actually aren't provisioning yet. | 14:39 |
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| TrevorV_ | I think QUEUED is misleading, since its not in a queue... but its better than SCHEDULED | 14:40 |
| samuelbercovici | can we do the "state" discusion in ML? | 14:40 |
| dougwig | works for me. | 14:40 |
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| samuelbercovici | who will send a proposal? | 14:40 |
| blogan | dougwig: I think its a matter of having two different states so its obvious when a driver is actually provisioning it | 14:40 |
| samuelbercovici | to initiate the discussion | 14:41 |
| markmcclain | yes please send this to the ML | 14:41 |
| dougwig | blogan: I know that's the intent, but is that different from every other neutron object? i.e. are we reinventing the wheel here, because we don't like the flow/name? | 14:41 |
| dougwig | i'm actually fairly neutral on the state name. | 14:41 |
| dougwig | #action move state transition discussion to ML | 14:41 |
| sballe_ | me too as lon gas it is not misleading | 14:41 |
| xgerman | as long as it's explained in our glossary... | 14:41 |
| markmcclain | as there needs to broad community agreement on these terms since it impacts FW, VPN too | 14:41 |
| blogan | dougwig: but i don't think neutron has this same problem | 14:41 |
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| dougwig | #topic update on the nodepools | 14:42 |
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| jorgem | next item was "Can the existing drivers continue to be enhanced in Juno release?" I thought? | 14:42 |
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| jorgem | per vjay | 14:42 |
| dougwig | that's two down on my list, but i can shift it | 14:42 |
| dougwig | #topic Can the existing drivers continue to be enhanced in Juno release | 14:42 |
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| blogan | dougwig: we already discussed the nodepools | 14:42 |
| jorgem | gotcha | 14:42 |
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| dougwig | vjay: want to get this one started? | 14:43 |
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| vjay | Yes. | 14:44 |
| vjay | we want to do some enhancments to the current driver. | 14:44 |
| vjay | like status updates and stats update | 14:44 |
| vjay | can we post these enhancments to gerrit? | 14:44 |
| jorgem | vjay: Current reference driver? | 14:44 |
| vjay | current NS driver | 14:44 |
| ptoohill | vjay, this is ontop of the BP to modify for updated objmodel right | 14:45 |
| sballe_ | vjay, NS? | 14:45 |
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| vjay | oops | 14:45 |
| vjay | sorry NetScaler driver | 14:45 |
| sballe_ | vjay, thx :-) | 14:45 |
| vjay | currently the pool status will be ACTIVE always, it does not reflect the status as the backend sees it. | 14:46 |
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| ptoohill | ah | 14:46 |
| dougwig | this goes back to the shim v1/v2 simultaneous conversation. if we don't support both versions of drivers in some fashion, the transition path gets trickier. (and i'm fine moving this discussion to an offline chat about that new blueprint.) | 14:47 |
| markmcclain | my preference is that we don't enhance v1 drivers | 14:47 |
| sballe_ | markmcclain, +1 | 14:48 |
| jorgem | markmcclain: +1 | 14:48 |
| xgerman | +1 | 14:48 |
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| vjay2 | or for ex. the calls to the backend are becoming Asynchronous. So we have to accomodate this in the current NetScaler driver | 14:49 |
| vjay2 | can we submit such changes? | 14:49 |
| jorgem | Can drivers get deprecated in Neutron LBaaS? | 14:49 |
| jorgem | As in, is there a formal way to do this? | 14:49 |
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| blogan | vjay2: would you be able to modify your driver to support the new object model and driver interface? | 14:49 |
| dougwig | vjay2: i don't think it's getting any more async than it currently is. | 14:49 |
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| blogan | dougwig: i think he is talking about the netscaler backend becoming async | 14:50 |
| vjay2 | no, the call between the driver and backend is async | 14:50 |
| vjay2 | blogan: right | 14:50 |
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| markmcclain | jorgem: yes we can deprecate | 14:50 |
| dougwig | ahh, got it. that would imply a major driver change, which would imply being able to switch to the new interface? | 14:51 |
| markmcclain | and the cycle is much shorter than REST | 14:51 |
| vjay2 | blogan: we are planning for the new object model, but we cannot say for sure. | 14:51 |
| dougwig | vjay2: can we chat offline on this topic in #openstack-lbaas in about 2 hours? | 14:51 |
| dougwig | you, me, blogan, and anyone else interested? | 14:52 |
| vjay2 | that should work | 14:52 |
| blogan | i just got voluntold | 14:52 |
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| dougwig | ok | 14:52 |
| dougwig | #topic when the "core" code will land in gerrit | 14:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "when the "core" code will land in gerrit (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 14:52 | |
| dougwig | i think this one was from sam | 14:53 |
| blogan | this will land soon, we need to get the "db" unit tests finished | 14:53 |
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| blogan | and by soon I mean in the next couple of working days | 14:53 |
| dougwig | samuelbercovici: if you need it sooner, it's in a github fork right now. | 14:53 |
| blogan | of course we have a major holiday coming up here in the states so it may end up being next week | 14:54 |
| dougwig | #topic free play | 14:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "free play (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 14:54 | |
| blogan | but I will try to get it done sooner | 14:54 |
| TrevorV_ | couple of days >= 3 to 5 | 14:54 |
| samuelbercovici | I am asking, as we are trying to work on TLS and L7 in pralel | 14:54 |
| sballe_ | can somebody point me at the github repo | 14:54 |
| jorgem | As devs always say "I'm about 90% complete" lol | 14:55 |
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| dougwig | #link https://github.com/orgs/oslbaas/dashboard | 14:55 |
| sballe_ | dougwig, thx | 14:55 |
| samuelbercovici | so TLS which is simple to modify to the new model is alreadi as WIP in git. Evgeny is on vacation next week so it will be fine if sometime next week the code will land in gerrit | 14:55 |
| ptoohill | would like to bring up the outstanding BP's : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98640/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100931/. This need reviewing | 14:55 |
| TrevorV_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98640/ | 14:56 |
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| blogan | samuelbercovici: ok that sounds good, but I'll still try to get it out by this weekend | 14:56 |
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| TrevorV_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100931/ | 14:56 |
| jorgem | Update from last weeks action items. I updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS. Please add new links there. | 14:56 |
| samuelbercovici | so on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98640/ - mark can you please review? | 14:57 |
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| dlundquist | There are additional blueprints still pending listed here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno_lbaas_mid_cycle_meetup_reviews | 14:57 |
| avishayb | and L7 rst is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99709/10 | 14:57 |
| dougwig | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno_lbaas_mid_cycle_meetup_reviews | 14:58 |
| jorgem | I also added relevant bps to the wiki links section | 14:58 |
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| dougwig | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99709 | 14:58 |
| jorgem | for juno that is | 14:58 |
| dougwig | about a minute left in this meeting. | 14:58 |
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| jorgem | alright looks like we are done. Thanks everybody! | 14:59 |
| dougwig | alright, bye folks. | 14:59 |
| blogan | i like turtles | 14:59 |
| xgerman | ? | 14:59 |
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| rm_work | o/ | 14:59 |
| samuelbercovici | bye! it was a good one! | 14:59 |
| dougwig | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| blogan | bye everyone | 15:00 |
| xgerman | bye | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 3 15:00:03 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-07-03-14.03.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-07-03-14.03.txt | 15:00 |
| ptoohill | take care everyone | 15:00 |
| sballe_ | bye | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-07-03-14.03.log.html | 15:00 |
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| TrevorV_ | o/ | 15:00 |
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| eglynn | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 3 15:00:50 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglynn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:00 |
| * cdent gets comfy | 15:01 | |
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| eglynn | we're mostly at mid-cycle this week so this is gonna be a short meeting I guess | 15:01 |
| llu-laptop | o/ | 15:01 |
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| eglynn | #topic Juno-2 status | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Juno-2 status (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:02 | |
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| eglynn | so one change is that the javelin2 work is now slightly downgraded in terms of priority | 15:02 |
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| eglynn | javelin2 == "new resource-survivability-across-upgrades piece of the grenade harness" | 15:03 |
| llu-laptop | eglynn: just about to ask what javelin2 :) | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | eglynn: cdent and I will work on it together next week. | 15:03 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: so cdent has found some incompleteness in it, and the os-qa have indicated that it's still should be considered WIP | 15:03 |
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| eglynn | but once we shake out the bugs/incompleteness in javelin2 itself, it'll still be a valuable thing | 15:04 |
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| cdent | The main issue at this point is that though it is checked in, it is not actually being used in any official capacity yet. | 15:05 |
| cdent | So the fact it is otherwise broken is hidden. | 15:05 |
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| eglynn | (i.e. to allow for assertions that we have metric collection and ceilo-api queries spanning upgrades) | 15:05 |
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| eglynn | cdent: so we'll organize a g+ hangout / vline thingy next week with EmilienM to talk thru' the issues in detail | 15:05 |
| cdent | yup | 15:06 |
| eglynn | any other changes for juno-2? | 15:06 |
| eglynn | (that anyone wants to call out?) | 15:06 |
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| KurtRao | how about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102713/ | 15:06 |
| eglynn | #topic "Spec proposal & acceptance deadlines are approaching" | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ""Spec proposal & acceptance deadlines are approaching" (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:06 | |
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| eglynn | so main thing here is the deadlines on spec proposal/approval for juno | 15:07 |
| eglynn | see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039201.html | 15:07 |
| eglynn | proposal is to follow the neutron deadlines | 15:08 |
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| jd__ | I still miss the ceilometer/gnocchi spec I think (hint ildikov_) | 15:08 |
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| lsmola__ | hello :-) | 15:08 |
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| eglynn | so June 10 for proposal, Jun 20 for landing the spec for juno | 15:08 |
| ildikov_ | jd__: challenge accepted ;) | 15:08 |
| jd__ | eglynn: s/June/July/ I hope | 15:08 |
| eglynn | jd__: yeap! | 15:08 |
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| eglynn | so Jul 10 for proposal, Jul 20 for landing the spec for juno | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova | hehe, it'll be too cruel otherwise :D | 15:09 |
| jd__ | "June for Juno" would have made sense though | 15:09 |
| jd__ | could be a nice song | 15:09 |
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| eglynn | after that I guess just propose specs in a new k* directory? | 15:09 |
| cdent | k is still unnamed then? | 15:10 |
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| eglynn | my money is on kepler | 15:10 |
| eglynn | cdent: ^^^^ | 15:10 |
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| eglynn | ok, so that's all from me ... end of monologue :) | 15:10 |
| eglynn | #topic "open discussion" | 15:11 |
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| jd__ | oh I thought we were at that topic already | 15:11 |
| jd__ | :D | 15:11 |
| asvechnikov | Hi. I'm writing scenario test for events and I have a questions. | 15:11 |
| asvechnikov | 1. Events are disabled in ceilometer by default, is it better to enable them in ceilometer config or in devstack? | 15:11 |
| asvechnikov | 2. Making one action from some service is enough for event testing. But additionally I can test notification from different services by testing event from this service. Which is the best way? | 15:11 |
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| eglynn | asvechnikov: yep, events would have to be enabled ... however it would be best to delay landing that test until events are supported in mongodb | 15:12 |
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| KurtRao | Hi. I found that "cpu time used" meter will be set to zero after VM restart, and that doesn't seem make sense to me. Is it designed so? | 15:13 |
| eglynn | asvechnikov: so I guess you'll need to assert that the event is persisted *and* the expected traits also? | 15:13 |
| idegtiarov | events are almost in mongodb https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101558/ | 15:13 |
| eglynn | KurtRao: that's a "feature" of libvirt | 15:13 |
| eglynn | idegtiarov: on my list :) | 15:13 |
| KurtRao | which means vsphere doesn't have this problem, right? | 15:13 |
| jd__ | no idea | 15:14 |
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| eglynn | KurtRao: the cumulative CPU time is not a monotonic sequeunce in as reported libvirt, dunno about vSphere | 15:14 |
| eglynn | KurtRao: can you test that and report back? | 15:14 |
| asvechnikov | eglynn, yes traits too. | 15:15 |
| KurtRao | Sure. Actually I asked this because I cannot obtain a vSphere environment right now, but yes, I'll try :) | 15:15 |
| eglynn | asvechnikov: cool, thanks! ... hopefully we'll get the mongodb patch landed soon also to unblock the tempest test | 15:15 |
| eglynn | KurtRao: thank you sir! (... /me doesn't have access to a vsphere deployment either) | 15:16 |
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| shengjiemin | KurtRao: we can just try the mailing list :) first | 15:16 |
| shengjiemin | KurtRao: there might be someone with some vsphere exp | 15:17 |
| shengjiemin | ^_^ | 15:17 |
| eglynn | shengjiemin: who not just reach out to the folks who wrote the vsphere inspector? | 15:17 |
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| KurtRao | sure | 15:17 |
| eglynn | shengjiemin: ... the git log knows all :) | 15:17 |
| shengjiemin | eglynn: ^_^ | 15:17 |
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| shengjiemin | right | 15:17 |
| eglynn | cool :) | 15:18 |
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| eglynn | shengjiemin: we were talking about your Zabbix patch earlier | 15:18 |
| eglynn | shengjiemin: ... can you clarify one point? | 15:18 |
| shengjiemin | eglynn: sure | 15:18 |
| eglynn | shengjiemin: ... does Zabbix have a native store for metrics? | 15:18 |
| shengjiemin | eglynn: sry being late today | 15:18 |
| asvechnikov | eglynn: Is better to enable events in default ceilometer.conf? | 15:19 |
| eglynn | shengjiemin: ... or is it all based on in-memory thresholding? | 15:19 |
| shengjiemin | eglynn: yeah, it has a mysql db, it's meant for shor term real-time H/W monitoring | 15:19 |
| eglynn | asvechnikov: we will probably do so when we switch to v3/gnocchi | 15:19 |
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| eglynn | shengjiemin: so "short-term" == "short retention of metric data"? | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, and now to have all events tests passing? | 15:20 |
| shengjiemin | eglynn: it's designed to wipe out the older data periodically | 15:20 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova: are they failing now? | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova | do we need to switch this on in the devstack? | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova | well, they are not turned on :) | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 15:20 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: we will if there are tests requiring it | 15:20 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... but the default can still be to disable | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova | asvechnikov is inplementing events tests | 15:20 |
| shengjiemin | eglynn: yes to your question | 15:21 |
| DinaBelova | scenario ones | 15:21 |
| DinaBelova | so to test them we need them to be enabled in the testing env | 15:21 |
| eglynn | shengjiemin: so the main point of your proposal is to gain longer-term retention? | 15:21 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn - by default in ceilo config or in the devstack.. | 15:21 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova: sure, that tempest test config can override the default config though, right? | 15:21 |
| DinaBelova | asvechnikov, can it? ^_^ ^^^^ | 15:22 |
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| shengjiemin | eglynn: well, it's one part, it's more to get the existing zabbix metics not wasted there. Using Ceilo as the centralized place to store all the metrics | 15:23 |
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| eglynn | shengjiemin: so just to give you a flavour of some of the discussion on Zabbix ... the question of why burden the central agent with this additional polling was raised | 15:23 |
| eglynn | shengjiemin: ... when the ceilometer central agent is still a SPoF | 15:23 |
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| eglynn | shengjiemin: (... i.e. can't be scaled out horizontally) | 15:23 |
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| eglynn | shengjiemin: ... anyhoo, probably best to continue the discussion on gerrit for posterity | 15:24 |
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| shengjiemin | eglynn: got your point, it doesn't need to go through central agent, does it? any suggestions? | 15:24 |
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| eglynn | shengjiemin: ... some of the folks here at mid-cyclewill leave further questions etc. on the review | 15:24 |
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| shengjiemin | eglynn: sure, i will take a look | 15:25 |
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| eglynn | shengjiemin: any suggestions ==> well you could just write a new custom agent specifically for this polling (that doesn't necesssarily need to live in-tree in the ceilometer repo) | 15:26 |
| eglynn | but yeah, let's continue on gerrit | 15:26 |
| eglynn | any other topics for open discussion? | 15:26 |
| * eglynn 's finger hovers over the endmeeting button ;) | 15:26 | |
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| eglynn | right-o, thanks as always for the productive meeting ... | 15:27 |
| eglynn | #endmeeting ceilometer | 15:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 3 15:27:43 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-07-03-15.00.html | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-07-03-15.00.txt | 15:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-07-03-15.00.log.html | 15:27 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 3 17:00:34 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
| mtreinish | Hi who's here today? | 17:00 |
| k4n0 | o/ | 17:00 |
| asselin | hi | 17:00 |
| mkoderer | o/ | 17:00 |
| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_July_3_2014_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:00 |
| salv-orlando | aloha | 17:00 |
| mtreinish | ^^^ Today's agenda | 17:01 |
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| dkranz | o/ | 17:01 |
| jlanoux | hi | 17:01 |
| mtreinish | ok let's get started | 17:01 |
| mtreinish | #topic Spec review day July 9th | 17:02 |
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| mtreinish | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039105.html | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | so I'm not sure everyone saw that ML post | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | but next Wed. we're going to have a spec review day | 17:02 |
| mkoderer | ok | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | the goal is to go through the backlog on the qa-specs repo | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | which has been a pretty slow process | 17:02 |
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| mtreinish | so if everyone could concentrate on specs reviews then that would be awesome | 17:03 |
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| mtreinish | that's all I had on this topic. So unless someone has something else to add we can move on | 17:03 |
| asselin | added to my calendar | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | #topic Mid-cycle Meet-up full, registration closed | 17:04 |
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| mtreinish | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039209.html | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | so just another announcement that we have no more space available for the midcycle meetup | 17:05 |
| mkoderer | mtreinish: there was one registration after you closed it ;) | 17:05 |
| mtreinish | mkoderer: heh, yeah I noticed | 17:05 |
| mtreinish | I'll talk to cody-somerville... | 17:05 |
| dkranz | eventual consistency | 17:05 |
| mkoderer | I put him on the list anyway | 17:05 |
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| mtreinish | yeah we actually had 1 free slot so it's ok | 17:05 |
| mtreinish | so anyway now we really are full | 17:05 |
| mtreinish | so if you're name's not on the list unfortunately there isn't any room | 17:06 |
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| mtreinish | sorry if you're unable to attend | 17:06 |
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| mkoderer | next time we have to plan with more ppl ;) | 17:07 |
| mtreinish | honestly I wasn't expecting to hit 30 | 17:07 |
| mtreinish | so I'm a bit surprised | 17:07 |
| mkoderer | sure but it's a good sign :) | 17:07 |
| mtreinish | mkoderer: no disagreement from me :) | 17:08 |
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| mtreinish | that's all I had for this topic. So unless someone has something else we can move on | 17:08 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Specs Review | 17:08 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104576/ | 17:08 |
| andreaf | hi - sorry I'm late | 17:09 |
| mtreinish | so I pushed this out this morning to drop a spec that was superseeded | 17:09 |
| mtreinish | but andreaf brought up the point do we really want to just rm the rst files if a spec is abandonded | 17:09 |
| mtreinish | or archive them somewhere in tree | 17:09 |
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| mtreinish | so we have a record of them if they ever need to be restored | 17:10 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: Can't hurt much to move them to some abandoned dir | 17:10 |
| mtreinish | yeah, I don't have a strong opinion either way, rm just seemed simpler | 17:10 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I doubt there will be a large number, at least I hope not | 17:10 |
| mtreinish | yeah hopefully not | 17:10 |
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| dkranz | It can also be recovered from git though, right? | 17:10 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: yeah getting it from git is as simple as a revert | 17:11 |
| andreaf | andreaf: mtreinish dkranz yes it can also be recovered by git - it's just a folder is more visible / accessible | 17:11 |
| dkranz | andreaf: But realistically who will want to see it? | 17:11 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: yeah that's what I was thinking | 17:11 |
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| dkranz | andreaf: Anyway, I dont have a strong opinion either | 17:11 |
| mtreinish | if it's abandonded it means it's not going to be implemented | 17:11 |
| mtreinish | and why do we want to archive it | 17:12 |
| mkoderer | and the reason why it's abandonded is in gerrit? | 17:12 |
| mtreinish | the implemented dir is different because it's pseudo documentation of features | 17:12 |
| andreaf | dkranz mtreinish so can a spec stay in review forever? | 17:12 |
| dkranz | And it will bitrot anyway as things change. | 17:12 |
| mkoderer | I would simply remove it... | 17:12 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: yes, I'm not sure cores can force an abandon, just -2 | 17:12 |
| andreaf | I was thinking about specs which are interesting but abandoned because no one has time to work on them atm | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: that's the TODO thing again | 17:13 |
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| mkoderer | andreaf: ah, ok that can be useful | 17:13 |
| mkoderer | like a backlog of specs | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: so there is probably a class of things like that specs without owners | 17:13 |
| dkranz | +1 | 17:13 |
| k4n0 | I have a question on specs, do new tests have to be proposed via a spec or a bug? | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | but that's different and it hasn't come up yet | 17:14 |
| dkranz | k4n0: Not by bug | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | k4n0: can we discuss that after the meeting in openstack-qa? | 17:14 |
| k4n0 | ok | 17:14 |
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| k4n0 | thanks | 17:14 |
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| mtreinish | ok so I'm thinking the direction we should take with this case and others like it when the spec is superseeded is to just rm the file | 17:15 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: so I don't have a very strong opinion on an abandoned folder, I thought it could be useful for new people to look into that folder to pick specs | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | and if there is a case where the owner can't continue the work we can revisit archiving them somewhere else | 17:15 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: ok sounds good | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | ok then let's move on the next spec on the agenda | 17:15 |
| dkranz | andreaf: There is a difference between abandoned and no one has done it yet. | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101232/ | 17:16 |
| mtreinish | I'm assuming yfried put this on the agenda | 17:16 |
| mtreinish | but I'm not sure what he wanted to discuss | 17:16 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: Yes | 17:16 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: He wants another core to review it | 17:16 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: You disqualified yourself as a co-author | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: this is a spec, not the addcleanup patch :) | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | that bounced on merge conflict after the +A | 17:17 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: Oh, sorry | 17:17 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I guess he wanted some feedback, even if not a formal review | 17:18 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I think he is eager to get going but thinks it might be controversial | 17:18 |
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| mtreinish | ok, well I'll take a look at it. It sounds controversial from the commit summary | 17:18 |
| andreaf | dkranz: I'll add it to my review list | 17:18 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: thanks | 17:19 |
| mtreinish | especially given how much work is involved in a major organizational refactor | 17:19 |
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| mtreinish | ok are there any other specs that people would like to discuss? | 17:19 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: We have some movement on the tempest config script | 17:19 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: I left two more comments but am almost ready to give my +2 | 17:20 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: yeah I saw, I need to take another pass at it too | 17:20 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I am going to also add that the discovery part should be its own module that can be shared with the verify script or anything else that needs it | 17:21 |
| andreaf | dkranz: +1 | 17:21 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: that makes sense to me, you can just break it out of what's in the verify script | 17:21 |
| mtreinish | and go from there | 17:21 |
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| mtreinish | but that should be an explicit work item then | 17:22 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: right, that was going to be my additional comment which I will make right after meeting | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | ok, cool | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | are there any other specs, otherwise lets move on | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | #topic Blueprints | 17:23 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/ | 17:23 |
| mtreinish | does anyone who has an inprogress BP have a status update | 17:23 |
| mtreinish | we're down 2 from last week, we marked branchless tempest as complete, although one work item was spun off as a separate spec | 17:24 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: The ui would not let me change https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/client-checks-success to Started | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | and the nova v3 test refactor was dropped | 17:24 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: Not sure why | 17:24 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: At least I could not figure out how to do it | 17:24 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: hmm, I just did it for you | 17:24 |
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| mtreinish | didn't seem to complain | 17:24 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: weird | 17:25 |
| mtreinish | but lp is weird | 17:25 |
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| mtreinish | it still drives me crazy that I can't get new bp notifications | 17:25 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: anyway I would appreciate a review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104290/ because it touches a lot of files | 17:25 |
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| dkranz | though in a simple way | 17:25 |
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| dkranz | and I nope to avoid rebase issues :) | 17:26 |
| andreaf | dkranz: I'll have a look | 17:26 |
| dkranz | That is most of the identity portion of client checking | 17:26 |
| dkranz | andreaf: Thanks | 17:26 |
| jlanoux | dkranz: me too | 17:26 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: ok, I'll take a look. That's just to move the resp code checks into the clients right? | 17:26 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: Right, along with a bug fix in the same code | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | ok, are there any other BPs to discuss? | 17:28 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: hmm, what happened to one logical change per commit :) | 17:28 |
| mtreinish | ok, let's move on | 17:29 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: The problem was that the fix for the bug and the client check change overwrite exactly the same code. You will see. | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | ok, I was just giving you a hard time | 17:29 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: :) | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | #topic Grenade | 17:29 |
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| mtreinish | so I don't think sdague is around right now | 17:30 |
| mtreinish | but there was a discussion of javelin2 on the ML | 17:30 |
| mtreinish | and I suggested that we should avoid adding new features to javelin2 until we get it working in the grenade job | 17:30 |
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| mtreinish | I also know that EmilienM has been doing a bunch of work on adding other services to grenade | 17:31 |
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| mtreinish | but I haven't been following things that closely | 17:31 |
| mtreinish | so unless anyone has something to add here we can just move on | 17:31 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Neutron testing | 17:32 |
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| mtreinish | salv-orlando: I'm sure you've got something for this topic :) | 17:32 |
| salv-orlando | yes. Basically we have made some progress in making the full job voting. | 17:33 |
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| salv-orlando | in a nutshell the problem is not the job being “full” but rather being “parallel" | 17:33 |
| salv-orlando | anyway, the top offenders have been identified, and we have patches for it. | 17:33 |
| salv-orlando | However, I made a mess in one of them, as I ddi not identify correctly the root cause | 17:34 |
| salv-orlando | that’s the bad patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99182/ | 17:34 |
| mtreinish | heh, well parallel is always the trouble spot... | 17:34 |
| salv-orlando | I know have the correct root cause and will push a patch soon. | 17:34 |
| salv-orlando | needless to say, these failure are related to the neutron/nova event mechanism which is the biggest feature introduced since we ‘fixed’ parallel testing back in february | 17:35 |
| salv-orlando | beyond these failures we have a few remaining issues, mostly around ‘lock wait timeouts' | 17:35 |
| salv-orlando | these issues affect both smoke and full jobs, but parallelism make their frequency slightly higher. | 17:36 |
| salv-orlando | We have people working on the ‘lock wait timeout’ issues, but I don’t have a timeline for that. | 17:36 |
| mtreinish | salv-orlando: ok, so do you think after the bugginess around the event mechanism is resolved it's time to flip the switch? | 17:37 |
| mtreinish | and live with the lock wait timeouts for a while | 17:37 |
| salv-orlando | mtreinish: in a nutshell, yes. | 17:37 |
| mtreinish | ok sounds sane to me | 17:37 |
| salv-orlando | also because the lock wait timeout error is not always crticial, from a job success perspective | 17:37 |
| * afazekas hopes just fixing the #1329546 will be enough for voting | 17:37 | |
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| salv-orlando | afazekas: 1329546 is where I made the mistake in finding the root cause | 17:38 |
| salv-orlando | There is a nova issue where in some cases the VM just boots and does not wait for an event, and I thought it was also happening the opposite: the compute node waiting for an event that would never come | 17:39 |
| salv-orlando | as you saw, this was not the case. | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | salv-orlando: and on the full everywhere vs asymmetrical thing I'm fine either way. I'll bring it up during the project meeting next week | 17:39 |
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| salv-orlando | mtreinish: cool, so I’ll change the config patch to make the job full everywhere | 17:39 |
| salv-orlando | so I guess we’ll put it directly on the integrated gate? | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | just to see if there is a strong opinion either way | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | salv-orlando: yeah if we go with it everywhere that'd be the best way to do it | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | although I don't think all the projects are using the integrated-gate template | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | so you might have to update it manually for a couple of projects | 17:40 |
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| salv-orlando | that’s all for the neutron full job side from em. If we’re lucky we can get these patches merged this week so the folks at the nuetron code sprint next week will deal with the increased failure rate! | 17:40 |
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| afazekas | #link http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJmaWVsZHMiOltdLCJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOlwiZmFpbGVkIHRvIHJlYWNoIFZFUklGWV9SRVNJWkUgc3RhdHVzXCIgQU5EIG1lc3NhZ2U6XCJDdXJyZW50IHRhc2sgc3RhdGVcXDogcmVzaXplX2ZpbmlzaFwiIEFORCB0YWdzOlwiY29uc29sZS5odG1sXCIiLCJ0aW1lZnJhbWUiOiI2MDQ4MDAiLCJncmFwaG1vZGUiOiJjb3VudCIsIm9mZnNldCI6MCwidGltZSI6eyJ1c2VyX2ludGVydmFsIjowfSwic3RhbXAiOjE0MDQyODA3NTYxNDN9 This is one of the issue type which happens significantly more f | 17:41 |
| afazekas | requently in the full job | 17:41 |
| marun | I have a topic for discussion before we move on from Neutron, if there's time. | 17:41 |
| afazekas | Solving this issue might be enough for voting | 17:41 |
| mtreinish | marun: sure | 17:41 |
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| salv-orlando | afazekas: that signature includes both bug 1329546 and 1333654 | 17:42 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1329546 in nova "Upon rebuild instances might never get to Active state" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1329546 | 17:42 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1333654 in nova "Timeout waiting for vif plugging callback for instance" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1333654 | 17:42 |
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| salv-orlando | afazekas: you’ll have to dig into logs to see if the action fails because of an error while posting to instance_external_event | 17:43 |
| salv-orlando | or because of a timeout | 17:43 |
| salv-orlando | marun: go ahead. I’m done if nobody has anythign to add on the full job. | 17:43 |
| marun | ok | 17:44 |
| marun | As you all know, nova network/neutron parity is mandated by the TC, and validating the work items requires multi-node testing | 17:44 |
| marun | We know that it's not going to be possible to do multi-node in the gate in the near term, so we're left with 3rd party testing. | 17:44 |
| marun | We still have to hash out who's going to provide the resources for 3rd party testing, but that's a separate concern. | 17:44 |
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| marun | I'd like to see Tempest accept multinode-requiring tests, with the provisio (as nova and neutron already require) that such tests are run by 3rd party jobs. | 17:45 |
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| mtreinish | marun: awesome if there is someone running a ci with multinode | 17:45 |
| clarkb | marun: why is it not possible in the gate near term? | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | that opens up all sorts of new testing | 17:46 |
| marun | Failing that, we'll have to put multi-node scenario tests in the Neutron tree, and it will be harder to get good oversight from the tempest team. | 17:46 |
| marun | clarkb: near-term -> in the next month? | 17:46 |
| clarkb | marun: I mean we support multinode testing now | 17:46 |
| marun | clarkb: I'm happy to be wrong :) | 17:46 |
| clarkb | no one is using it | 17:46 |
| marun | clarkb: wow, news to me. | 17:46 |
| dkranz | clarkb: news to me too | 17:46 |
| mtreinish | marun: the only requirement related to this for tempest is that code in new tests gets executed in a ci system | 17:46 |
| mtreinish | because tempest is mostly self verifying | 17:46 |
| sdague | marun: honestly, it's probably a week's worth of work for someone to make it do multinode devstack testing | 17:46 |
| dkranz | clarkb: Is there a wiki page or something about it? | 17:47 |
| sdague | but no volunteers | 17:47 |
| clarkb | dkranz: no. no one has done anything with it so nothing to wiki | 17:47 |
| marun | mtreinish: awesome. so whether we can take advantage of upstream or 3rd party, so long as we are running it, the tests can go in. | 17:47 |
| marun | sdague: we'll have volunteers ;) | 17:47 |
| dkranz | sdague: I will try to find a volunteer. | 17:47 |
| mtreinish | marun: yep, we just don't want to land code that hasn't been run. Which is why we've been blocking things that require a multi-node env | 17:47 |
| afazekas | How many nodes we could use in multonede job ? | 17:47 |
| clarkb | afazekas: its technically arbitrary but starting with 2 is probably easiest | 17:48 |
| sdague | afazekas: honestly, start with 2 | 17:48 |
| andreaf | sdague, mtreinish: there are things that may not work in multinode, one that comes to mind it the log parsing - unless multinode uses some rsyslog server or so | 17:48 |
| marun | mtreinish: totally understand, wouldn't have it any other way. | 17:48 |
| sdague | andreaf: there are definitely things that have to be sorted | 17:48 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: well that's something for whoever implements it to solve :) | 17:48 |
| sdague | but the real issue is just no one is taking advantage of the nodepool facility yet | 17:49 |
| afazekas | sdague: I can configure devstack to work in multi-node, but I do not know how it could be added to the gate | 17:49 |
| andreaf | marun: so do you need 1 node as now +1 compute or do you need to split neutron control plane as well? | 17:49 |
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| dkranz | sdague: sounds like afazekas is a volunteer perhaps | 17:49 |
| sdague | afazekas: right, that's where we need a person to dive into that | 17:49 |
| marun | andreaf: more than 1 compute node | 17:49 |
| afazekas | sdague: can we discuss it on the met up ? | 17:49 |
| marun | andreaf: so that we can validate connectivity between vm's on multiple nodes and test nova ha/neutron dvr | 17:49 |
| andreaf | marun: ok that's great - it would allow also to run migration tests | 17:49 |
| sdague | initial multinode configurations should be all services (including compute) on 1 node, and compute only on 2nd node | 17:50 |
| marun | andreaf: great! | 17:50 |
| sdague | so you'll have 2 computes | 17:50 |
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| sdague | afazekas: sure, we should have all the right people there | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | yeah it's probably a good topic for the meetup | 17:51 |
| afazekas | ok | 17:51 |
| mtreinish | I'll add it to the potetial topic list | 17:51 |
| clarkb | I think someone could start working on it now though | 17:51 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: yes good idea :) | 17:51 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: very true | 17:51 |
| clarkb | I am not convinced meetup is necessary to start the work | 17:51 |
| clarkb | might be good to take the hard bits to the meetup | 17:51 |
| afazekas | psedlak: ^ | 17:51 |
| dkranz | clarkb: Can you give enough info for some one to get started before then? | 17:52 |
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| andreaf | clarkb: so does nodepool already understand the concept of having more than one node associated to a job? | 17:52 |
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| clarkb | andreaf: yes | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | ok well we're at < 8min left so can you guys can take the multinode coversation to -infra or -qa after the meeting | 17:53 |
| clarkb | yes please to -infra | 17:53 |
| andreaf | does it make sense to have a qa-spec or infra-spec of this? | 17:53 |
| afazekas | clarkb: Is all test node on the same network ? | 17:53 |
| clarkb | afazekas: we can talk about it in -infra | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | ok let's move on | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | #topic Critical Reviews | 17:53 |
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| mtreinish | so does anyone have any reviews that they'd like to get extra eyes on | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | wow this must be a first no one has any reviews that need extra attention :) | 17:54 |
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| adam_g | ive got a few up that add new compute feature flags, helpful for getting our ironic testing rolling in a more vanilla fashion | 17:55 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: links? | 17:55 |
| adam_g | sec | 17:55 |
| mtreinish | oops stupid tab complete | 17:55 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I already mentioned mine :) | 17:55 |
| adam_g | https://review.openstack.org/102628 https://review.openstack.org/101381 actually, i guess its only one at this point but there will be more coming | 17:55 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/102628 | 17:56 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101381/ | 17:56 |
| adam_g | thanks :) | 17:56 |
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| mtreinish | ok if there aren't any other reviews I guess we can move on to a brief open discussion... | 17:57 |
| mtreinish | #topic Open Discussion | 17:57 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: we said at some point we would discuss about how to use topics in reviews | 17:58 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: but we never did until now | 17:58 |
| mtreinish | we did? I don't recall that | 17:58 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: I still think it would be helpful to have a way of filtering reviews based on the service | 17:58 |
| andreaf | at the summit | 17:58 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: well that's part of the point of having only one bp for a testing effort | 17:59 |
| mtreinish | to group reviews by an effort | 17:59 |
| mtreinish | the problem is that the burden is on the submitter | 17:59 |
| mtreinish | and I'm not sure forcing a specific topic is something we want to nit pick on | 17:59 |
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| mtreinish | although I guess we do nitpick on the commit msg mentioning the bp | 18:00 |
| mtreinish | anyway that's time | 18:00 |
| mtreinish | thanks everyone | 18:00 |
| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 3 18:00:30 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-07-03-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-07-03-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-07-03-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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