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HenryGHi jlibosva salv-orlando akamyshnikova12:59
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HenryGSince Mark is on vacation mestery might want to lurk13:01
HenryG#startmeeting neutron_db13:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul 14 13:01:24 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is HenryG. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_db'13:01
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HenryGI have no specific agenda for today, so we will do status and then open discussion.13:02
HenryG#topic Status13:02
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HenryGAt the mid-cycle sprint Mark McClain agreed that the frozen models module was ugly but probably the least complicated13:03
HenryGSo we are proceeding with that.13:03
HenryGjlibosva: a quick update on what is left there?13:04
jlibosvaI'm rebasing right now and addressing comments from 17th and 15th patchset. I'll send new patchset soon13:04
HenryGjlibosva: Great, thanks!13:04
HenryGAre we confident that it is ready to merge with that patch set?13:05
akamyshnikovaafter testing will last one, I think yes :)13:05
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akamyshnikova*after testing with last one13:06
jlibosvayes, I made some changes like removed comments and docstrings per salv-orlando's comments13:06
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salv-orlandohi people13:07
HenryGYes, I think so too. Great work! It was very tedious to check it for review, so I can image how boring it must have been to do.13:07
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salv-orlandojlibosva: yeah minor stuff. I am doing reviews today. Will soon give another crack at theam.13:07
salv-orlandomarkmcclain is also helping us with reviews. We should be able to merge soon.13:07
jlibosvasalv-orlando: awesome, thanks. I'll send a new patchset soon13:07
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HenryGsalv-orlando: markmcclain is on a beach somewhere this week. Not sure how much reviewing he will do.13:08
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salv-orlandoHenryG: I will pick him up for any beach wehre he could possibly be and force him to de reviews astt gun point13:09
HenryGThanks salv-orlando :)13:10
HenryGakamyshnikova: the healing migration looks ready (after rebasing on jlibosva's model freeze update), right?13:10
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akamyshnikovaHenryG, yes I think so, I tested it with test from oslo.db and manually with different core and service plugins13:12
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salv-orlandoI did some tests too and was happy with them as well.13:12
akamyshnikovabut of course I look forward any comments or suggestions :)13:13
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* mestery lurks13:13
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HenryGGreat stuff everyone. I hope we can merge soon.13:14
akamyshnikovaHenryG, yes I think so :) now everything depends on reviewers :)13:15
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HenryGWe are holding up all reviews that do model updates, so we should give this our priority to get it merged.13:15
HenryGAnything else on the status of freezing and healing?13:17
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* HenryG notes that Jenkins approved the latest healing migration patch set :)13:18
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HenryG#topic Open discussion13:18
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HenryGI have rebased on the healing and it passes Jenkins too.13:19
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HenryGAnother item to do after healing is move all models to a common directory.13:20
jlibosvaAre we going to remove should_run() from mako file?13:21
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jlibosvaand other conditional migrations stuff13:22
akamyshnikovaI'm concentrating on testing that shows sync models with db content. In fact it is almost done.13:22
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salv-orlandoHenryG: for that I would just like to hear akamyshnikova where we still have divergence between models and migrations13:22
salv-orlandoyeah pretty much what Anna just said13:22
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* salv-orlando finds your first name much easier to type than your nick!13:23
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* HenryG thinks salv-orlando should get an IRC client that completes nicks with <tab>13:24
akamyshnikovain fact there is one change on review but it can be fixed with heal migration13:24
akamyshnikovain models everything seems to be fine13:25
salv-orlandoakamyshnikova: great13:25
salv-orlandoHenryG: writing “Anna” is still faster than doing aka -> tab ;)13:26
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HenryGsalv-orlando: :)13:28
HenryGsalv-orlando: Any update on ?13:28
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HenryGI believe akamyshnikova has volunteered to work on it?13:28
salv-orlandoHenryG: yes, I’ve been reviewing mostly other people specs in the past few days. Had little time to look at mines13:29
akamyshnikovaHenryG, yes13:29
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HenryGIt's just that I see the spec is not approved yet, and it would be good to get into Juno.13:30
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HenryGThat's me13:31
salv-orlandoHenryG:  I’m already lobbying wiht other cores to see if there is space for it. It’s going to be tight because there are a lot specs to review13:31
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salv-orlandoacceptance rate is going to be very low (less than 20% I think)13:31
HenryGsalv-orlando: Understood. I guess if it misses Juno then people will have to live with 100's of migrations for a while longer.13:32
salv-orlandoHenryG: 100s of migrations is something I’m little bothered with. What I want to remove is the logic for making migrations configuration specific.13:33
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HenryGThat is rather important, yes.13:35
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HenryGHopefully the additional load of that spec + the coding is low on the cores.13:36
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HenryGAnything else?13:39
salv-orlandonot from me13:40
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HenryGThanks everyone!13:40
akamyshnikovathanks! bye!13:40
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rakhmerov#startmeeting Mistral16:00
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rakhmerovhi Kirill16:01
rakhmerovlet me ask you something16:01
rakhmerovI'm kind of confused what is considered your nick name here? "xazel" or "enykeev"? :)16:01
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rakhmerovhi Winson16:01
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enykeevI'd say both, but enykeev is main one and the one registered16:02
rakhmerovok )16:03
rakhmerovlet's start16:03
rakhmerovthe agenda is at:
rakhmerov#topic Review AIs16:03
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rakhmerov1. rakhmerov, communicate to akuznetsova on devstack gate job configuration problem16:03
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rakhmerov2. rakhmerov plans is to finish with the overall engine structure (taking the new requirements into account like multiple workflows, workflow/action polymorphism, cross references etc.)16:04
rakhmerovthis is not done, I'd say it's probably only 50%16:04
rakhmerovhonestly, I got stuck with some design tasks in the middle of the last week16:04
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rakhmerovon Friday I was able to move forward significantly though16:05
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rakhmerovnothing committed yet, I'll start committing my changes tomorrow16:05
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rakhmerovtoday I had a day off16:05
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rakhmerovso I'll continue to work on this AI16:06
rakhmerov3. xazel, try to finish up with engine-executor protocol16:06
enykeevSince it has two +2, I believe I have finished it =) Although, there might be a problem with premature db session flush, but I'm going to fix it in a next path.16:06
rakhmerovdb session flush?16:07
rakhmerovcould you digg into that quickly?16:07
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rakhmerovif possible16:07
enykeevI spent about four hours today and I plan to finish with it tomorrow16:07
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dziminehi all sorry to be late...16:08
rakhmerovok, I'm probably the best person to talk about db things, flushes and transactions16:08
rakhmerovlet's discuss it tomorrow16:08
rakhmerovhi Dmitri16:08
rakhmerovno problem16:09
rakhmerov4. akuznetsova, cover all client methods and figure out how to configure gate job16:09
rakhmerovakuznetsova, how is that work going?16:09
akuznetsova_i almost implement this blueprint mistral-mistralclient-integration-tests, only one thing left to do is to make one more commit to openstack-infra to turn on gate for client repository16:09
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rakhmerovI saw that you sent 3-4 patches but since I was off today didn't review them yet, sorry16:10
akuznetsova_all my commits on review, so, please take a look its16:10
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rakhmerovok, great16:10
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rakhmerovso from your perspective this AI is finished, right?16:10
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akuznetsova_rakhmerov: yes16:11
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rakhmerovok, thanks16:11
rakhmerovlet's move forward16:11
rakhmerov#topic Current status (quickly by team members)16:11
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rakhmerovI have already told about my status16:11
akuznetsova_my plan is to finish with mistralclient tests and gate job and rakhmerov probable we will need to discuss what is next16:12
rakhmerovI had a long useful discussion with Dmitri on Friday and I think I was able to figure out the overall picture of how engine should work. However, I'm still struggling with details16:13
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enykeevI'm planning to finish up with the bugs I have uncovered while working on the protocol. I also have some ideas on the next steps for the protocol, but I would need to think about that a bit more.16:14
rakhmerovenykeev I believe has also told the most essential things16:14
rakhmerovenykeev, sure16:15
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rakhmerov#topic Further plans16:16
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rakhmerovok, mostly we've already covered our further plans16:16
rakhmerovanything else to add on that?16:17
rakhmerovany roadblocks, needs in additional information?16:17
rakhmerov#topic Open Discussion16:18
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rakhmerovone important note (mostly for Dmitri and Kirill): guys please also take a look at Nastya's commits on testing16:19
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rakhmerovwe need to make sure we're heading in the right direction with our testing approach16:19
rakhmerovother than that looks like I don't have anything from my side16:20
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rakhmerovbtw, I'm hoping to get one more contributor this week )16:20
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rakhmerovand Nikolay will join us pretty soon, on 26th16:21
rakhmerovanything from your side guys?16:22
akuznetsova_not from my side16:22
rakhmerovalright, it was incredibly quick today )16:22
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dziminerakhmerov it is all in your capable hands now :)16:22
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rakhmerovdzimine, I know16:23
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rakhmerovI'll do my best16:23
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rakhmerovI just realized I'm trying to solve a little bit more complex task than I thought before16:23
dziminewe’ll eat the elephant spoon by spoon :)16:23
rakhmerovbut that's ok, even more interesting16:24
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rakhmerovyes, exactly16:24
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rakhmeroveveryone have a good and productive week16:24
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rakhmerovbye, thanks for joining16:25
m4dcoderthanks. bye.16:25
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sarob#startmeeting training-manuals17:00
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sarobDguitarbite won't be joining us17:00
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sarobHello all17:00
dguitarbiteim here17:00
sarobOh, hi there17:01
dguitarbiteMumbai traffic has improved a lot17:01
sarob#topic stable update17:01
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dguitarbitewe are working on basic install guide17:01
dguitarbiterough notes are on the Etherpad link17:02
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dguitarbiteto meet the Juno2 deadline, we will be copying the docs install guide content and slowly start re-using them17:02
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dguitarbitefrom install guide17:02
matjazphi guys17:02
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sarobCopy, eh17:03
sarobAre you sure that is wise?17:03
dguitarbiteto meet the dead line17:03
dguitarbiteand I had some time to think about this17:03
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sarobHow will you back reference the original?17:04
dguitarbiteand it would be better for us and docs team to have our content to refer to17:04
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dguitarbiteexact copy of the install guides content17:04
dguitarbiteand break it down as required, then push the changesto docs17:04
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sarobThis is the still that is out of circulation?17:04
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dguitarbiteand fix the url17:04
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dguitarbite*fix the urls and use xi:include17:05
sarobThis material is not currently published?17:05
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dguitarbiteit is not currently published17:05
sarobOkay then I'm good17:05
dguitarbiteto be more precise, install guides have lot of content17:05
sarobSound like a good step17:05
dguitarbitewhich should not be included for basic install guide17:05
dguitarbitethanks, Roger, Matjazp any comments?17:06
sarobWhat else you got for us?17:06
rluethinot for that part.17:06
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matjazphmmm.. not too happy about copying.. but I guess it could work17:06
rluethiI looked into creating PDFs from landslide presentations.17:06
dguitarbitematjazp: we will slowly transition into re-using the copied docs content17:07
dguitarbiteits too much work in multiple direction to try and attempt it at once17:07
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dguitarbiteslowly transition == about a month17:08
dguitarbiterluethi: sorry, continue17:08
sarobSpec bp on this?17:08
rluethidguitarbite: without using princexml (proprietary).17:08
matjazpdguitarbite: will that have effect on translation infra?17:08
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matjazprluethi: did you find anything? I looked a bit around too..17:09
rluethimatjazp: I think I may have a solution. I tested it with the initial import that is17:09
rluethimatjazp: still under review (?).17:09
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dguitarbitematjazp: it should not, openstack bot will automatically fix the translation file *.pot file if I am correct17:10
rluethimatjazp: there is an alternative which seems to work.17:10
sarobRluethi which review17:10
rluethisarob: "initial import of training slides" or something. don't have an url handy.17:10
dguitarbiterluethi: sounds good, I guess you need to push a spec patch and start pushing more patches on it17:10
matjazpsarob: the one you'll clean up ;)17:10
sarobRluethi ah right17:11
dguitarbitewhat exactly do you use for converting it to PDF format?17:11
rluethisarob: this one:
rluethidguitarbite: epicslide and dependencies.17:11
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matjazpdguitarbite: yes, but it will create a lot of duplicate translation strings... copied content== duplicate translations strings?17:12
dguitarbiteinitially yes, but we will push the changes in the original location and delete the duplicate files17:12
dguitarbiteotherwise we will take a few months for the same work17:12
dguitarbiteas we need to convince install guide guys for each patch, instead just show the existing content17:13
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dguitarbitefor smoother and faster transition17:13
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sarobIs this going to create a lot more work than just creating PDFs?17:14
matjazpdguitarbite: well.. sure, lets try that way...17:14
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matjazprluethi: epicslide? you have link?17:15
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sarobWill we need to start supporting it or is it stable?17:17
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sarobLast activity was a year ago?17:17
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dguitarbitealso its a fork of landslide17:18
dguitarbitecan we not reuse landslide or port the pdf features as per our requirements?17:18
rluethisarob: if you are talking about landslide, I was thinking the same. but it seemed to work, which is a plus.17:18
sarobOkay, just asking17:19
sarobAny other stable news?17:19
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dguitarbitethats it for today17:19
matjazpsarob: maybe could we get PrinceXML license from OpneStack Foundation? Like for Oxygen?17:19
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sarob#action sarob rluethi epic slide port as option for dev reed materials17:20
sarobMatjazp worth a look17:20
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rluethimatjazp: I'm not keen on adding more dependencies on proprietary software. we can't hand it out to everybody who wants to help or test.17:21
reedsarob, I looked at xml briefly, I can't make myself like it, sorry...17:21
sarob#action sarob princexml licensing to foundation option17:21
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reedthe more I look at the issue, the more I find it depressing17:21
dguitarbiterluethi: can we not take the pdf feature n push it to landsilde?17:21
matjazprluethi: yes, I agree - but it's also a mora pragmatic approach ... PDFs will be available for free from our site17:21
sarobReed understood we are working on supporting the rst17:21
reedsarob, rst is only slightly less depressing :)17:22
dguitarbitereed: whats the exact issue?17:22
rluethidguitarbite: not sure, I haven't looked at the code yet.17:22
sarobReed rst is at least what everyone knows17:22
dguitarbiterluethi: lets attempt feature addition to landslide17:22
reeddguitarbite, only WYSIWYG for anything involving graphic is not depressing17:22
rluethidguitarbite: go ahead, be my guest :)17:22
sarobRluethi good point17:22
dguitarbiterluethi: definatly17:23
dguitarbitebut only after Junno217:23
reedI have some little hopes for webodf17:23
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sarobReed well we need it to work today17:24
dguitarbitereed: ok, oxygen may be your friend for WYSIWYG17:24
reedsarob, indeed17:24
reedsarob, I also need to pull in Vince from IBM in this (will email you later)17:24
sarobAny other stable news? Or move on?17:24
dguitarbitemove on17:25
sarobReed roger17:25
sarob#topic infra update17:25
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dguitarbiteroger can you update about our chat on friday17:25
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sarobUpdates on tests or something else?17:26
rluethiwe talked about scripts development, ,mostly short term17:26
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rluethiit's documented on etherpad17:26
rluethiplans for script directories and config directories.17:26
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sarobLinked anywhere else?17:26
sarobOff wiki?17:26
dguitarbitealso we are planning to add some tests etc.17:26
rluethiprobably only on the wiki17:27
rluethiit's work in progress17:27
sarobThat's good enuf17:27
dguitarbiterluethi: can you paste etherpad link17:27
sarobWe should get in the habit of either matching to a bug or bp for all work17:27
rluethidguitarbite: I don't have it right now, but I can post it later.17:28
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sarobI can't track via launchpad otherwise17:28
dguitarbitesarob: its initial planning stage, we are just evaluating various possibilities based on our observations17:28
dguitarbitewe will push it once we are certain that our idea works/can be implemented17:28
dguitarbiteand is not too optimistic17:29
sarobSounds good17:29
sarobAny ideas on new lang support?17:29
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sarobJa and fr seem like easy wins17:29
dguitarbiteI dont have much on lang support17:29
dguitarbiterluethi any ideas?17:30
matjazpsarob: what about fransthamura?17:30
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rluethidguitarbite: there was a language patch by andreas jaeger, haven't looked at it yet.17:30
rluethidguitarbite: here's the #link
matjazpsarob: he could start with Indonesian (?) translations...17:31
dguitarbiterluethi: he said that its just temporary and it will transition to openstack-doc-tools17:31
dguitarbiteI am not 100% sure if it will work17:31
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sarob#action Fransthamura tasked with helping infra team on Indonesian lang support17:31
dguitarbitebut we need some expert in the given language which we are targeting for translation17:31
rluethidguitarbite: then I don't want to interfere, let's see how andreas' patch works out.17:31
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dguitarbiteI have no experience or leads when it comes to translation17:32
dguitarbitesarob: do you have any particular time frame for translations?17:32
rluethidguitarbite: I have some experience in Western European languages i18n/l10n, but it's been a while.17:32
sarobI'm targeting jm3 for first lang support17:32
dguitarbite: ok17:33
sarobRather you guys team up with the experts17:33
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saroband feed them lang experts17:33
dguitarbiterluethi: it may be easier for you to check if the French translation is possible and sane enough to publish17:33
sarobOur plates are full already17:34
rluethidguitarbite: So is there one in the pipleline already?17:34
dguitarbitesarob: for me Juno3 will be to update basic-install-guides and other content for Juno17:34
rluethidguitarbite: haven't seen it.17:34
matjazp I'm still not sure, how will XML includes affect translation strings?17:34
dguitarbiteit will be a bit difficult to work on translations esp. when Ill be moving countries soon17:34
dguitarbiterluethi: I guess Tom Fifield will be a good person to ask for translation related queries17:35
sarobI think we need to reassess our bugs and bp this week17:35
rluethidguitarbite: ack17:35
dguitarbitesarob: I concur17:35
dguitarbitealso can we have a sprint next week17:36
sarob#action whole team take a look at bugs and bp for training17:36
sarobIf something is missing or already fixed create/update17:36
sarobI should be locking down features this week for Juno release17:37
dguitarbitesarob: there have been loads of changes in the structure etc. to make many bugs invalid. I guess we have put regressions in our bugs17:37
sarobDguitarbite sprint sounds good if we can rally the troops17:38
sarobI will be at oscon so limited help from me17:38
sarobLet's move on17:38
sarobUnless something else?17:39
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dguitarbitemove on17:39
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sarob#topic testing update17:39
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sarobMatjazp how17:40
matjazpunfortunately...nothing new this week... we were moving our Lab to our new building...17:40
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sarobGoes it?17:40
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sarobOkay, no17:40
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dguitarbitematjazp: hmm, it must be painful process17:40
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matjazpdguitarbite: yes... we were offline for whole weekend... our private cloud and all other stuff from our lab17:41
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sarob#topic dev update17:41
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sarobI need work on the reed materials, still outstanding17:42
matjazpsarob: at oscon, will you speak with M. Rice from LPI?17:42
sarobHaven't got any new feedback17:43
dguitarbiteis reed Stefano?17:43
reedsarob, I should publish the raw odp files somewhere17:43
reeddguitarbite, yes17:43
sarobMatjazp maybe. Not sure he will be there17:43
dguitarbitereed: :)17:43
matjazpsarob: I think he will... he was mentioning it on Skype17:43
sarobReed another patch to training is good for that17:43
reedsarob, binaries in git? I thought people didn't like that17:44
sarobMatjazp anything you want from rice?17:44
dguitarbitereed: can you push it to your github repo instead then?17:44
dguitarbitehow big are the binaries?17:44
* reed checks17:44
matjazpsarob: well it would be nice if we knew if the contract went through17:44
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sarobMatjazp hmm, right17:44
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reeddguitarbite, ~9Mb17:45
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dguitarbiteok, i think its not too big, would it be possible to link them via. dropbox/gdrive or aws s3 container?17:46
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sarobReed gdrive is pref17:47
reedi'll drop them on my rackspace account17:47
reedcome on, we make openstack :)17:47
sarobReed are17:47
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sarobReed are you planning training for oscon?17:47
sarobReed I didn't hear17:47
sarobAbout it17:47
reedI'll be in Portland17:48
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reedno training sessions there17:48
dguitarbitereed: haha, sure :)17:48
reedParis is the next one17:48
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sarobReed okay. Cloud files to17:48
sarobParis right then17:48
sarobAny other dev info?17:49
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sarob#topic any other business17:50
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dguitarbiteI got something17:50
dguitarbiteI would like all the sub-team leads to attend our design sessions17:50
dguitarbitedoes that sound reasonable ?17:50
sarobI say yes17:50
rluethidguitarbite: not sure I can make it.17:51
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dguitarbitesure, we can have you over video chat17:51
sarob#action training core reviewers /leads attend all training Juno design sessions17:51
sarobAnd thus it be so17:51
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* dguitarbite amen17:52
sarobIf that is it , I call this meeting concluded17:52
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sarob8 mins back to y'all17:52
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MeganR1Thank you!17:53
rluethibye all.17:53
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krtaylor#startmeeting third-party18:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul 14 18:00:45 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is krtaylor. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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krtaylorWho is here for third-party meeting? Anyone?18:01
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krtaylorwow, great!18:01
krtaylorlooks like biggest group yet18:02
daya_khi, first time for me, i am handling the ibm sdnve 3rd party setup18:02
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krtaylorwelcome all!18:02
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krtaylorhere is the agenda for today's meeting:18:02
vjayhi all18:02
pmanurHi . all18:02
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krtaylor#topic Welcome & Reminder of OpenStack Mission18:03
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krtaylor#info The OpenStack Open Source Cloud Mission: to produce the ubiquitous Open Source Cloud Computing platform that will meet the needs of public and private clouds regardless of size, by being simple to implement and massively scalable.18:03
krtaylorok, review of last week18:03
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krtaylor#topic Review of previous week's open action items18:03
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krtaylorI recorded 2 actions, the first was to make sure timelines got communicated to neutron and cinder18:04
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krtaylorsweston and I were going to check on that18:04
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swestonyes, so I believe the timelines are fairly clear18:04
krtaylorI think that was taken care of since we have neutron here today18:04
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mesterykrtaylor: I sent a reminder email out with a summary of Neutron 3rd party CI last Friday.18:05
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krtayloryes, it was very good18:05
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krtaylorand I have got a status from cinder core that we can build on for next week18:05
mesterykrtaylor: cool, thanks!18:05
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vjaymestery: vjay from citrix. NetScaler CI has been voting for a while.18:06
krtaylorok, the second was sweston starting a terms discussion, documenting the email thread18:06
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krtaylorand that has made quick progress18:06
vjayit votes only on LBaaS changes though18:06
sweston:-) thanks, krtaylor18:07
krtaylorsweston posted email and link to etherpad18:07
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mesteryvjay: I don't think we're at that agenda item yet, please wait until we get there.18:07
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krtayloryes, please, hang on just a min18:07
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vjaymestery: my apologies. will wait18:08
krtaylorsweston, anything you want to add?18:08
krtaylorvjay, no worries18:08
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mesteryNot a problem vjay, just helping to keep things on track :)18:08
swestonI think the terms and definitions are very fair.   if anyone has anything they'd like to contribute, I'd say please do it quickly.18:08
krtayloryes, I encourage everyone to get involved18:09
swestonthat would be it, krtaylor, thanks :-)18:09
krtaylorsweston, you will roll that up into a patch soon?18:09
swestonkrtaylor: If you would like to set a date, I will put it on the calendar18:09
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krtaylor#action discuss timeline for terms patch to third_party.rst  sweston krtaylor18:10
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krtaylorso last, I'd like to beg everyone to get involved and review the existing patchsets, we ard backed up on them and need to close them out18:11
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krtaylorfollowing this topic would allow any new patches to be followed by this link18:12
mesterykrtaylor: Will do, they are in my queue.18:12
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krtaylorso topic any patches third-party18:12
krtaylordid I miss anything from previous week?18:13
krtayloronward then18:13
krtaylor#topic Announcements18:13
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krtaylordoes anyone have any announcements?18:14
krtaylornope, ok next18:14
krtaylor#topic OpenStack Program Items18:14
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krtaylorwell, I jumped in too quick on the reviews, it should go here18:14
krtaylorbut, its worth saying twice18:15
krtaylorany discussion on the existing patchsets?18:15
mesterykrtaylor: Just to make sure people review them :)18:16
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* krtaylor thinks everyone is just waiting to talk about neutron18:16
krtaylornext then18:16
krtaylor#topic Deadlines & Deprecations18:16
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krtaylorany new deadlines to communicate?18:16
krtaylorI havent seen any18:16
krtaylorgood enough18:17
krtaylor#topic Highlighting a Program or Gerrit Account18:17
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krtaylorok, mestery your up18:17
mesterykrtaylor: Is this my slot?18:17
krtaylorwant to summarize first?18:18
mesterySo, I'd like some order here.18:18
mesterykrtaylor: Sure.18:18
mesteryThat's the link I'm going to walk through.18:18
mesteryThe background is this:18:18
mesteryAbout 6 weeks ago I sent email on a "state of third-party CI in Neutron"18:18
mesteryThis is the followup discussion as we approach the Juno-2 deadline for all plugins and drivers to ahve this working18:18
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mesteryLets walk through each CI system which has trouble now, and we can see where people are at.18:18
mesteryThe first one on the list is the Cisco CI.18:19
mesterydane_leblanc: I see you here. Hi!18:19
dane_leblancWe're missing logging for screen logs...18:19
mesterydane_leblanc: OK.18:19
mesteryAny issues getting that implemented?18:19
dane_leblancShouldn't be an issue18:20
mesterydane_leblanc: Great!18:20
dane_leblancBut disk space is something to think about18:20
dane_leblancWe have 5 plugins, with 3 more on the way18:20
mesterydane_leblanc: Yes, that was the other issue with the Cisco CI.18:20
mesteryLog retention18:20
dane_leblancSo for 30 days retention, I'm gussing about 80 GB needed for logs18:20
mesterydane_leblanc: Do you think you can solve these before Juno-2? Do you need help?18:20
mesterydane_leblanc: ++18:20
dane_leblancWe should have it covered.18:21
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mesterydane_leblanc: Great!18:21
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mesterydane_leblanc: Thanks for the update!18:21
dane_leblancFixing it in a side system, which we'll switch to soon.18:21
dane_leblancThank you.18:21
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mesterydane_leblanc: Perfect.18:21
mesteryNext up: Citrix. vjay, hi!18:21
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YoucefVjay is just distracted for a second :)18:21
pmanurparikshit from citrix. Hi18:21
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mesteryYoucef: hi there!18:21
mesterypmanur: Hi as well!18:22
vjayNetScaler CI has been voting18:22
mesterySo, your plugin is running for LBaaS only commits? Maybe that's why I missed it's reporting.18:22
mesteryCan you folks paste a recent link to a succesful run?18:22
mesteryvjay: thanks!18:22
mesteryvjay: OK, please put a link to a succesful run in the etherpad.18:23
mesteryWe'll move on to the next one.18:23
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mesteryvjay: Perfect timing!18:23
* mestery looks18:23
vjaycan you please give the link to the etherpad18:23
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mesterythanks fawadkhaliq18:24
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mesteryvjay: There are a few issues with your CI based on that link:18:24
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mesteryIt's not saving enough info (logs, including screen captures).18:24
mesteryvjay: I'll add that as a requirement in the etherpad.18:24
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mesteryvjay: That should be straightforward, and you can work with people in this meeting each week for help. Also, #openstack-infra.18:25
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krtaylorvjay, also the link points to the job, not the log18:25
mesteryvjay: Does that sound ok?18:26
vjaycan you see the latest patchet 2418:26
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vjaythe logs are present in
vjayit has all the screen captures18:26
pmanurhttp:// is the full path for screen logs18:26
mesteryvjay: I see that now.18:27
krtaylorvjay, I see, you are using the build to index the logs18:27
mesteryvjay: I'll defer to krtaylor, but the links in the Jenkins voting look odd to me, but you are right, the logs are there.18:27
mesterykrtaylor: Thoughts?18:27
krtaylorvjay, also, its a good idea to not use a specific IP address, it makes links break in the future if the ip changes18:28
vjayok. we are working on changing to a dns name18:28
mesteryOK, lets move on to the next one.18:29
mesteryThanks vjay!18:29
krtaylormestery, not sure I am looking at the right thing, the last report is not a vote, just comment18:29
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mesterykrtaylor: Looks here at the netscaler commeont on patchset 24:
mesterykrtaylor: My comment was it's somewhat hard to parse that, thats all.18:30
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krtaylormestery, yes, I was looking at the wrong review18:30
mesteryOK, now moving on.18:30
mesterykrtaylor: :)18:30
mesteryNext up: Embrane.18:30
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mesteryignacio-Embrane: Hi!18:30
mesteryPer the etherpad, there are two issues: 1) Logs are tarred up and not viewable in the browser, and the CI runs seem inconsistent.18:31
ignacio-EmbraneI can change the script to not compress the logs before uploading18:31
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mesteryignacio-Embrane: Perfect!18:31
ignacio-Embranebut what do yopu meet with inconsistent runs?18:31
ignacio-Embrane*you mean18:31
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mesteryIn looking at it, it wasn't clear what it was running against, and if hte results were consistent.18:32
mesteryI may be wrong18:32
krtaylordane_leblanc, is the last review on that netscaler patchset (24) yours? if so, same ip address comment applies18:32
ignacio-Embraneit has been running for a while, latest is against this patchset18:32
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dane_leblanckrtaylor: Not sure, but I know we have the same problem.18:33
mesteryignacio-Embrane: that's what I mean: It only ran against patch sets 2 and 6 from that review.18:33
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mesteryignacio-Embrane: Sorry, 2, 4, 5 and 6.18:33
mesteryignacio-Embrane: Did it skip 1 and 3 for some reasons?18:33
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ignacio-EmbraneSome days ago I had to cut some accumulated jobs to make some changes18:34
ignacio-Embranesince it had a bit of a backlog of patches to test18:34
mesteryignacio-Embrane: OK, this could explain what I saw when looking at a few other patches as well.18:34
ignacio-EmbraneI wanted to ask what is the best way to run the minumum subset of tests18:34
ignacio-Embraneto speed it up a bit18:34
mesteryignacio-Embrane: This may be a broader problem which shoudl be discussed here though, and there is a mailing list thread on this as well from kevinbenton.18:35
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mesteryignacio-Embrane: It seems like the issues noted in the etherpad for embrane are easily solvable though.18:35
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mesteryignacio-Embrane: Thanks for the discussion here!18:35
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mesteryLets move on to the next one.18:35
mesteryIBM SDN-VE18:36
ignacio-Embraneok thanks18:36
mesteryIs banix or someone else here?18:36
mesterydaya_k: Hi!18:36
mesteryHi banix and daya_k!18:36
mesterybanix: We had spoken last week, but it's good to document it here.18:36
mesteryThe IBM CI is moving to a new group and setup, right?18:36
daya_kwe are moving to a zuul based system, in the works18:36
mesterydaya_k: ++18:36
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daya_kthanks, facing some issues, with triggers not starting a job, but manual runs on sandbox env running18:37
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krtayloralso, just be clear on what is being tested, IBM has several CI systems reporting18:37
mesterydaya_k: Cool! If you hit issues, the ML and #openstack-infra are your friends, as well as this meeting.18:37
daya_kyes, thanks.18:38
banixyes this is the CI for IBM SDN-VE Neutron plugin18:38
krtaylorright, and that goes back to the system naming discussion18:38
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krtayloralso in the ML and patch comments18:39
daya_ki can add the 'SDN-VE' in the vote. currently its  'IBM Neutron Testing'18:39
krtaylordaya_k, yes, that was what I was getting at, something like ibm-sdnve-ci18:40
banixkrtaylor: daya_k we are given a new name; specific to sdn-ve18:40
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banixgot the new name from anteaya; will double check to get ithe exact name18:41
mesterybanix daya_k: Sounds fine to me18:41
daya_ki had one Q for the codes earlier, sorry to bring it back up, havent seen if any specific code is defined for 'passed' and will you be adding it to the openstack ci system itself18:41
krtaylordaya_k, if you are referring to the terms discussion, it is just for discussion at this point18:42
daya_kok, so not part of the deadline18:42
mesteryOK, looking at time, I'd like to move on.18:43
krtaylordaya_k, right18:43
mesteryThanks daya_k and banix, seems like things are under control here!18:43
mesteryNext up: One Convergence.18:43
mesteryis anyeone here from One Convergence?18:43
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mesteryOK, moving on.18:44
mesteryNext up is OpenDaylight.18:44
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mesteryI spoke to dave_tucker (who is in the UK) last week.18:44
mesteryODL is moving to a new zuul based setup in the RAX cloud.18:44
mesteryIt's a work in progress.18:44
mesteryI'll follow up with dave_tucker and the ODL team this week as well.18:44
mesteryNext up: PLUMgrid.18:45
mesteryfawadkhaliq: Hi!18:45
fawadkhaliqPLUMgrid CI looks good now. Finally, it has been updated to store all the required logs in the correct format as per Example against latest neutron patch:
mesteryfawadkhaliq: Yes, it looks good to me too!18:45
mesteryfawadkhaliq: thanks for working to correct the issues around hte logs.18:45
mesteryOK, that one was quick. Next up: Radware.18:46
mesteryIs anyone here from Radware?18:46
emaganafawadkhaliq: well done!18:46
mesteryThe main issue with the Radware plugin is the fact the logs aren't viewable from the browser.18:46
fawadkhaliqemagana: mestery: thank you18:46
* mestery waits for 30 more seconds.18:46
mesteryOK, next up: Tail-F.18:47
mesterylukego: Hi there!18:47
lukegoTail-f NCS Jenkins: I brought this online again early in June and it has run around 400 tests since then. I'm monitoring daily during the week and sanity-checking the results, particularly negative ones, and retriggering tests that failed due to operational issues (happens occasionally). Example successful run:
mesteryAny updates on your CI?18:47
lukegoI have two known-to-me issues that I'd like help with. One is how to run more than the API tests, which is a requirement that I don't meet yet. The other is to look at a couple of suspicious failures and help see if they are due to some setup issue on my side e.g.
lukegoThere are perhaps also unknown-to-me issues that will come to light now :).18:47
mesterylukego: Looks good! For the first one, it's just a matter of running the basic and advanced networking ops tests in tempest in addition to the tempest API tests.18:48
lukegoI tried just doing that with testr, but they all failed for some strange reason, so I suspect by devstack and/or tempest conf is dodgy18:49
krtaylorlukego, same ip address in the link comment18:49
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krtaylorlukego, I am looking, but also jump in #openstack-infra and we can help you through setup issues18:50
mesteryOK, thanks lukego, lets move on to the next one.18:50
mesterylukego: I think you can solve these issues with some help.18:50
lukego*nod*. will follow up in openstack-infra18:50
mesteryThe last one is the vAmour FWaaS driver.18:50
mesteryIs someone from vAmour here?18:50
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mesteryThe issues with this one are the fact we can't view logs from runs, and some runs appear inconsistent.18:51
* mestery waits for 60 seconds.18:51
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mesterykrtaylor: That's all I've got, thanks for the time in your meeting!18:52
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krtaylorvArmour CI has the same IP addr issue18:52
mesterykrtaylor: #sadpanda18:52
krtaylormestery, thanks for bringing this to the meeting and driving the discussion18:52
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mesterykrtaylor: Sure, anytime!18:53
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krtaylorwe are almost out of time18:53
krtaylor#topic Open Discussion18:53
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krtaylordoes anyone have anything to discuss?18:53
krtaylorI'll see if I can get cinder to come and discuss where they are next week18:54
mesterykrtaylor: ++18:54
krtaylor#action krtaylor to contact cinder for status/help meeting18:55
krtayloranything else?18:55
luqasmestery: just to make sure, the rest of the CIs we can assume we are not in a risky situation?18:55
mesteryluqas: From my analysis, correct. :)18:55
* mestery hopes he didn't miss anything, but he spent a good amount of time last week checking ...18:55
luqasmestery: cool :) thanks18:55
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mesteryCertainly, people can feel free to correct me. :)18:56
krtaylormestery, and it has been well communicated18:56
mesterykrtaylor: ++18:56
krtaylorI guess we can call it quits a bit early then18:56
krtaylorthanks everyone, come back next week18:56
swestonkrtaylor, mestery thanks!!18:56
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fawadkhaliqthanks! ciao18:57
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jrollshall we?19:00
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NobodyCamwho here for the Ironic meeting19:00
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devanandahi all!19:00
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devanandaas usual, our agenda is available up here:19:01
devananda#chair NobodyCam19:01
openstackCurrent chairs: NobodyCam devananda19:01
devananda#topic announcements19:01
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devanandaquick call out again for our mid cycle meetup coming in just two weeks!19:02
devanandaI'd like to organize a small pre-meetup pizza outing on Sunday - sign up on the etherpad if you're interested19:02
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lucasagomeshah nice19:02
matty_dubsMy flight gets in super-late so I won't be able to make it for pizza :'(19:02
devanandawe should start thinking about what our goals for the midcycle are -- not in this meeting, but on the etherpad above :)19:03
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devanandalooks like there are some up there already, in fact19:03
NobodyCamI will not be able to make the next meeting due to TripleO mid cycle19:03
devanandayep - next week is the tripleo mid cycle in Raleigh19:03
devanandaI know some of us (myself included) will be there19:04
romcheg_ltpSo who will be the chair?19:04
* NobodyCam is htere monday and tuesday only19:04
* jroll votes lucasagomes for chair next week19:04
romcheg_ltp+1 for lucasagomes!19:04
ShrewsNobodyCam: coming to the tripleo meetup? excellent19:04
devanandalucasagomes: want to? I'm fine with that19:05
jrollnice looking bus I have, eh lucasagomes ? :)19:05
devananda#info lucasagomes will run the next weekly ironic meeting, since devananda and NobodyCam will be at the TripleO midcycle19:05
devanandaalso, the followign week being our meetup, I would like to suggest taht we don't haev an IRC meeting taht monday19:05
NobodyCamdevananda: +119:06
lucasagomesyeah makes sense19:06
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devananda#info no weekly meeting on July 28, due to Ironic midcycle meetup19:06
romcheg_ltpBut will you post updates so the guys who don't go to the meetup can read that?19:06
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Shrewsdevananda: since adam_g and myself will be in raleigh too, i suggest talking testing strategy while there at some point19:07
devanandaromcheg_ltp: yep19:07
devanandaShrews: good point.19:07
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devanandaother announcements -- I reviewed our review stats on Friday and sent a few nominations out19:07
devanandaI'll make those official later today19:08
devanandaa huge thanks to everyone who's been helping with reviews (and spec reviews)!19:08
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devanandaour pace has gotten about 50% faster, in terms of # of patches landed, in June compared to May19:09
devanandaand I think it'll keep improving with a few mroe cores :)19:09
devanandathat's all for my announcements, I think19:09
wanyenDeva:  we uploaded the new ilo deploy spec, can you and otehr reviewers take a look?19:09
devanandawanyen: please wait until the open discussion to bring up questiosn which aren't on the agenda19:10
devananda#topic release cycle progress report19:10
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devanandaI noticed this morning taht three more specs were approved recently -- good job!19:10
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devanandaagain, a huge thanks to those workign on spec revies, and to the proposers for having patience19:10
devanandawe (and a lot of other projects, too) are still finding what the "right" balance is19:11
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devanandabetween beign too process heavy vs. not thinking things through clearly19:11
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jroll/b 7619:11
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matty_dubsClose some of those tabs! ;)19:11
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devanandaalso a reminder, we're past the new-spec cut off -- but we can (and should) continue to iterate on existing specs until August 1319:12
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devanandathe nova driver is making progress. we landed several more clean up patches last week19:12
devanandamrda has one in flight still to add auth token caching to the client inside the nova driver19:12
NobodyCamso no new specs for J at this point K is open?19:13
devanandawhich should help with some of the performance19:13
devanandaNobodyCam: correct. no NEW specs. but revisions to existing specs are fine19:13
mrdadevananda: hoping to get an updated patch uploaded today for further review19:13
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devanandamrda: fantastic19:13
rloodevananda: if someone proposes a new spec, do you -2 it?19:13
devanandaI'm going to try to squash all the ones that landed into my proposal to nova19:13
devanandarloo: yep19:13
devanandaand take the feedback i've gotten from nova on taht review and push it back to ironic19:14
rloothx devananda. you = you ;)19:14
NobodyCamrloo: with a nice note that we'll unblock it after k officaily opens19:14
devanandaFWIW, this is painful. I would really like us to stop making any more changes to the nova virt driver19:14
lucasagomeswe can talk about it on the open discussion, but what if the specs are submitted to the k/ directory instead of juno/?19:14
devanandamrda: so the sooner you can work on that, and we can land it, the better -- I think it's important enough to land it today if we can19:15
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rloodevananda: if we don't make the changes to the nova virt driver now, then when? would it be less painful later?19:15
wanyendeva: Did faizan workwith you on teh Nova driver changes for URFI boot?19:15
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devanandawanyen: the spec for those is not approved yet, in either nova or ironic. I suspect taht work will have to wait until after we land the nova virt driver (assuming we are able to land it this cycle)19:15
lucasagomesrloo, after it's merged in nova19:16
jrolldevananda: perhaps nova driver changes should be submitted to nova with your patch as a dep19:16
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lucasagomesrloo, not less painful, but keep updating the patch all the time adding new features makes the review in nova more difficult19:16
devanandajroll: except we can't test them like that yet19:16
devanandauntil the driver merges into nova, we can't flip the tempest switch to test it there19:16
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devanandaso we can't test dependent patches right now if they're proposed on top of mine19:17
rloolucasagomes: yeah, I hear you. Pain is in our future...19:17
jrolldevananda: sure, but we can't land them like that either...19:17
jrollI'm just thinking it's a better place to put them, and they'll land eventually19:17
devanandajroll: we can test and land them in Ironic for now. it jus tmeans I need to do a lot of manual merging and fixing of things19:17
jroll"I would really like us to stop making any more changes to the nova virt driver"19:17
jrollbugfixes should be in the ironic tree, yes, but adding features probably not19:18
devanandawhich is why I'm asking that everyone hold off approving any changes to the nova virt driver in our tree19:18
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jrollright... which doesn't jive with "test and land in ironic for now"19:18
devanandalet's move on, we can talk about the details of that process for a while later :)19:18
jrollwe can discuss later19:18
NobodyCamdevananda: I have +2 some changes but I am not +a'ing any in the nova tree19:18
devanandalucasagomes: hi! any updates on the general cleanup?19:19
devanandacomstud: ^ ?19:19
devanandaNobodyCam: thanks. that's perfect.19:19
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comstuddevananda: I haven't been doing any cleanup...19:19
lucasagomeswell not on the clean ups, pretty much all the instance_info stuff is now merged, but the migration script... I will update the patch of the migration to include some documentation about how to use and what is that migration script about19:19
comstudbut, I have a that one bug fix for build + delete races (when you happen to configure 2 nova-computes the way nova does not like :)19:20
comstudI need to update it with an issue I found with my fix tho19:20
devanandacomstud: thought you had some more object code cleanups in the pipe?19:20
lucasagomesnot a clean up... but a refactor-like patch. There's the management interface, I put a new spec up today its already +219:20
comstuddevananda: Gosh, well, I wish.. but they are not for the virt driver, anyway..19:21
lucasagomesif I could get more eyes on that would be great because there's other specs depending on that one19:21
devanandalucasagomes: got a link?19:21
NobodyCamlucasagomes: link19:21
lucasagomesheh perfect timing19:21
lucasagomeswas grabbing it19:21
devananda#info more reviews requested for the change to ManagementInterface (see prior link)19:21
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devanandalucasagomes: anything else before we move on?19:22
lucasagomesnot from me19:22
devananda#topic subteam status reports19:22
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devanandaadam_g: hi! care to summarize the tempest work from last week?19:22
adam_gnothing too major from the tempest side of things. Shrews and i have been busy trying to push through some new feature flags, the devstack slaves RAM requirements should get bumped to 512 soon paving the way for concurrent testing + parallel ironic instance spawns19:23
Shrewsdevananda: Not sure adam_g is available, but I did make some progress with submitting some tempest reviews to fix some more API tests for us (some after lengthy discussions).19:23
devanandagood stuff19:24
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devanandafor those not following the CI stuff closely, the short version is that the -qa team wants to enable all the compute/api tests with the ironic driver (instead of with libvirt)19:25
adam_gShrews, was consensus reached regarding what to do about cinder tests?19:25
devanandarather than us having just one or two scenario tests for ironic, that would mean running all the nova tests (on the order of 100 or some such)19:25
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Shrewsadam_g: we're going with a feature flag19:26
adam_gShrews, ah, cool19:26
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devanandaNobodyCam: any updates on tripleo testing of Ironic?19:26
NobodyCamnot from me today, maybe lifeless has one?19:27
NobodyCamif he's around19:27
devanandaNobodyCam: ok. it looks like the tripleo-undercloud-ironic job has been mostly stable lately, so perhaps no news is good news19:27
devanandadtantsur: hi! I know you just got back from PTO (welcome back!) -- anything to share regaring bug status today? If not, that's fine.19:28
dtantsursomething :)19:28
dtantsurand hello everyone19:28
devanandadtantsur: or regarding fedora support, if anything's changed there19:28
NobodyCamya :)19:28
dtantsurpeople like numbers, here are the numbers: 11 New bugs (+9); 151 Open bugs (+28); 35 In-progress bugs (-1); 1 Critical bug (0); 26 High importance bugs (0); 5 Incomplete bugs (-1)19:28
devanandaouch, 151 open bugs... I think it was just barely over 100 a few weeks ago19:28
dtantsurAs you see, we have seriously increased number of opened bugs (and I didn;t have time to sort out new ones)19:28
dtantsur123 2 weeks ago19:29
dtantsur(+- numbers are differences since last measurement)19:29
dtantsurOne of the reasons is that Nova folks start retargeting bm bugs to us19:29
dtantsursome without even seriously looking into, some quite valid19:29
devananda#info Bug stats: 11 New bugs (+9); 151 Open bugs (+28); 35 In-progress bugs (-1); 1 Critical bug (0); 26 High importance bugs (0); 5 Incomplete bugs (-1)19:29
dtantsurso we can expect even more bugs from them19:30
devanandadtantsur: yep. jogo poked me after the fact on that, but I haven't had time to triage all of them.19:30
dtantsurbugs for nova-bm are being closed19:30
NobodyCamdtantsur: can we close some of the bugs,19:30
dtantsurdevananda, I'll ask you to triage some, because not everything is clear to me19:30
NobodyCamthe one critical has a fix committed19:30
devanandasome of them may be valid, but they should all have the "baremetal" tag19:30
devanandaso at least they are easy to spot19:30
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NobodyCamas I suspect many others do too19:31
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dtantsurNobodyCam, I didn't have time to create a script, measuring proper numbers, so this is still what LP reports19:31
NobodyCamahh :) Np19:31
dtantsurthis is it for bugs, I'm in the middle of sorting them19:31
NobodyCamwhat do we need to do to remove them frm LP?19:31
devanandaNobodyCam: nothing19:32
dtantsurand no updates on Fedora - didn't have time19:32
devanandaNobodyCam: they will be hidden from the default status view on LP once they are released19:32
NobodyCamack :)19:32
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devanandaI'd prefer our weekly stats to indicate those bugs taht don't even have a fix committed yet -- but LP doesn't do that for us, so we will need a custom script at some point19:32
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1341643 in launchpad "No way of closing some bugs" [Undecided,New]19:32
dtantsurthat is about non-closing bugs in LP :)19:32
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devanandathat's something else too ...19:33
dtantsurdevananda, that's on my plans, didn't have time though19:33
devanandajroll: hi! any updates on IPA?19:33
devanandadtantsur: thanks for the updates :) again, welcome back!19:33
jrollas always, people can check the latest status here:
dtantsurthanks :)19:33
jrollI'm still figuring out some devstack things... agent is booting and getting the deploy command, but can't talk to glance19:34
jrollI have some ideas... patches and testing etherpad soon19:34
* NobodyCam has to step away from computer... I will catch up / read the log when I return.. Thank you all... 19:34
jrollJoshNang has been working on / testing decom... that's very close as well19:34
dtantsurjroll, do you have some instructions on testing IPA locally?19:34
dtantsurmaybe I missed them...19:34
jrolland don't forget we still need the spec to land:
JayFjroll: should we mention the builds of ipa-coreos image?19:35
jrolldtantsur: not yet, coming soon. this is what I meant by "testing etherpad"19:35
dtantsurvery good19:35
jrollJayF: yes, thanks :)19:35
JayFI will talk about it then :)19:35
JayFWe have a job running, in openstack infra, that's generating this: every agent commit19:35
JayFthis is a tarball that includes the ramdisk and kernel neccessary to run IPA in the CoreOS ramdisk, just like we do at Rackspace19:36
wanyenis IPA going to support OS othere than CoreOS?19:36
JayFWe welcome patches to add support for other distribution methods, including DIB :)19:36
yuriyzI started some work
jrollIPA will run on any OS, fwiw, we just don't have builders for others19:36
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jrollyuriyz: awesome! should ping us for reviews when that's no longer WIP :)19:37
devananda#info ironic-python-agent now generating tarballs of a CoreOS-based agent image on every commit, available at
dtantsuryuriyz, cool, I'd also be glad to review19:37
devanandayuriyz: nice!19:37
JayFyuriyz: I'd also suggest you add a builder for it to -infra once we get it merged as well. If it's going to be supported, it needs to be built and tested regularly to make sure it doesn't atrophy :)19:38
JayFand while we still need better testing, we can at least build and upload working images :)19:38
devanandajroll: keep up the good work. I'm looking forward to digging into IPA at the sprint in two weeks :)19:38
jrolldevananda: thanks, we're excited to land it19:39
jrollbut seriously need spec reviews19:39
jrollso that the spec lands before the sprint19:39
devananda#info IPA spec needs reviews --
* dtantsur will look19:40
jrollwoot :)19:40
devanandaGheRivero: hi! any updates on Oslo for us?19:40
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devanandaok, we'll come back to Ghe if he is around later.19:41
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devanandaromcheg_ltp: hi! any updates on the nova db -> ironic db migration script?19:41
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romcheg_ltpMorning again!19:42
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romcheg_ltpSo I made a few minor updates to the data migration tool19:42
romcheg_ltpAnd was sticking to the Grenade testing19:43
devanandait looks like there are reviews up for them, but they haven't gotten any nova attention yet19:43
romcheg_ltpI don't know how that d**n think works on gates but in a week I didn't manage that to run19:43
romcheg_ltpWho is the best guys to talk about grenade?19:44
devanandaromcheg_ltp: so at the atlanta summit, sdague volunteered to give some guidance on how we can use grenade to test this upgrade path19:44
romcheg_ltpSo I will poke Sean then19:44
romcheg_ltpAlso I have a question19:44
devanandaI'll poke the nova team regarding the upgrade spec and your two reviews for a migration tool in the meantime, and at the midcycle in two weeks19:45
romcheg_ltpShould I create console endpoints for migration tools in nova?19:45
devanandaI dont have confidence that console support worked in nova-baremetal19:45
romcheg_ltpI can also post that to the mailing list but there's no need for that if you know the quick answer19:45
devanandait certainly wasn't tested, and none of the deployments I know of used it19:45
romcheg_ltpdevananda: No, not that console :)19:46
devanandaI think posting to the ML would be good, just in case someone is out there who needs it19:46
devanandawhich console then19:46
romcheg_ltpI mean cli endpoints19:46
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devanandawhat's a CLI endpoint?19:46
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romcheg_ltpconsole_script in setup.py19:47
devanandaoh - you mean install them into $PATH somewhere19:47
romcheg_ltpThat's what I mean19:47
devanandadefinitely :)19:47
devanandaromcheg_ltp: thanks!19:48
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devanandathanks to all the subteams - great reports, folks :)19:48
romcheg_ltpI have no questions then :)19:48
devananda#topic discussion: how to clearly indicate that Ironic is not a CMDB19:48
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devanandaso this came up (again) today19:48
devanandaI feel strongly that Ironic is not suited to be a CMDB19:48
devanandaand we're dancing close to a slippery slope19:49
devanandaand some of the spec proposals go too far, IMO, over that edge19:49
JayFWhat are a few examples?19:49
devanandaso I pointed out the mission statement19:49
devanandaand am wondering if others feel that is good, or if that is somehow indicating that a CMDB is or might be in scope ...19:50
Shrewsdevananda: it does invite some vagueness19:50
dtantsuras I already stated, "managing" is too vague19:50
matty_dubsTo be honest (and maybe this is just me), I'm not sure I have ever seen that mission statement before.19:50
dtantsursuccess story ^^^19:51
devanandamatty_dubs: it's part of the governance docs which the TC produces19:51
devanandabut that ya'll haven't seen them indicates also that the impression that Ironic might be a CMDB isn't coming from there19:51
devanandaso just changing that won't address it (but might help)19:51
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jrollright, I don't think it's coming from there19:51
JayFdevananda: I'm very curious as to hear your impression as to what is over the line or not?19:51
jrollbut if you change it, you can at least point at that when needed19:52
matty_dubsIt may be the canonically correct place to clarify this, but I'm not sure if it'll be widely read19:52
devanandaJayF: storing a full inventory of discovered hardware information19:52
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jrolldevananda: btw, I think the mission statement should be here:
dtantsuroh, we had this dicsussion today again19:52
devanandaJayF: in and of itself isn't over the line. but as soon as that's there, someone will want to search through it, or audit it, or ask for a delta -- what changed when I re-inventoried this server?19:52
jroll(and perhaps a thing about 'not a cmdb')19:52
lucasagomesjroll, +119:52
devanandaand *that* is all CMDB territory19:52
Shrewsdevananda: perhaps adding an "Ironic Manifesto" to the ironic wiki page would help?19:52
lucasagomesit's a wiki so we can update that19:52
dtantsurdevananda, someone already wanted in comments to my spec >_<19:53
Shrewsoh, yeah, what jroll said   :)19:53
JayFdevananda: that's sorta what I was thinking the line was too: storing what exists (ok), modifying or updating what exists (not ok)19:53
dtantsuryeah, if we want to avoid it, we may just be clear and say it19:53
JayFdevananda: the path for #2 is 'old server gone, here's a new server that looks suspiciously similar except now has new ram'19:53
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jrollJayF: I think updating is ok... but using it as a data source is what makes it a cmdb19:54
devanandaand of course, if ya'll think I"m wrong (and Ironic should be a CMDB) I expect everyone to tell me that19:54
devananda(but so far no one has)19:54
wanyenhw inventory related to scheduling would be relevant to proviisoning19:54
jrolldevananda: they're all scared of you :)19:54
devanandajroll: :-/19:54
jroll(I'm joking)19:54
jrollwanyen: there are other methods of doing that19:54
devanandajroll: i swear, i'm not scary ..... :)19:55
matty_dubsTo me, the line is kind of blurry. I have no issue with where it's drawn, but I think it's very easy to come along and say, "As long as we're doing x, it'd be nice to do x++...."19:55
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wanyenJroll: for example?19:55
devanandamatty_dubs: exactly the situation we're in.19:55
jrollwanyen: example:
dtantsur5 minutes left19:55
JayFDoesn't that just mean that spec reviewers need a good idea of where the line is and to enforce it there?19:55
wanyenNot to store all hw inventory but only teh hw properties taht assist scheduling19:55
devanandai sort of had this discussion with folks offline about a year ago, but it was hypothetical. now, it's practical.19:56
devanandaand I think I'm doing a disservice to all of you if I don't try to help clarify where the line is19:56
jrollwanyen: scheduler doesn't need to know that "this machine has 512kb L2 cache and an nvidia m1234 gpu with 2048MB video ram", that's far too fine-grained19:56
JayFdevananda: maybe something good to discuss at the mid-cycle is things explicitly in and out of scope19:56
JayFdevananda: to put into the wiki to clear it up19:56
devanandaJayF: ++19:56
* devananda adds to agenda19:56
lucasagomes+1 sounds good19:57
dtantsurCan we have a quick chat on discovery specs?19:57
devananda#topic open discussion19:57
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jrolltype fast :)19:57
wanyenjroll: I agree.  So only the proerpties taht assist scheduling19:57
jrollNisha: around?19:57
jrollwanyen: yep :)19:57
dtantsurwe had a long discussion with Nisha and I guess we came to sort of agreement19:57
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dtantsurwe don't see our specs as overlapping too much, Nisha's spec is one particular implementation that can be built on top of what I'm suggestings19:58
dtantsurwe've discussed ways of doing it, I left comment on the spec19:58
dtantsurso I don't see reasons not to consider both specs19:58
wanyenJroll: we need toallow shceudling for with basic properties: #of CPus, Ram sz,  etc.   Some vendor maight want to support schedulling based on server model taht should be allowed.19:58
devanandai think this isn't the first time we've seen a need19:58
devanandafor a generic spec + a specific implementation spec on top of it19:59
devanandaso I'm fine with that19:59
dtantsursure :)19:59
devanandaif it helps the discussion19:59
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Nishajroll: yes19:59
devanandaif both authors agree, and gerrit represents taht dependency, i think that's great19:59
dtantsurAnd I would actually ask cores to consider my spec, because it's around for some time, people come and ask for some new details, for proper hw inventory and so on19:59
jrolldtantsur: indeed, I think Nisha's should depend on yours :)19:59
jrollwanyen: indeed19:59
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dtantsurNisha, are you ok with what I suggest?20:00
devanandaany objections to using a generic + specific spec approach in this case, or in general?20:00
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Shrewstime is up, folks20:00
devananda(waiting for Nisha's answer before ending the meeting)20:00
dtantsurlinks: mine, Nisha's
Nishadtantsur: Yes it looks ok20:01
NishaI will update20:01
dtantsurthanks a lot :)20:01
wanyenso nisah spec is pretty geenric in terms of management interface20:01
devananda#agreed using a generic spec + one or more implementation-specific specs, which are gerrit dependencies, seems to be an accepted approach when that helps facilitate a discussion about new driver features20:02
devanandathanks all! great meeting, as usual20:02
devanandasee some of you next week, and some the week after that!20:02
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wanyenI think both node discovery and node property discovery managmeent interfacea re needed for different deploy scenaio20:02
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banix_Hi mestery , all20:59
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regXboiin the great IRC tradition, moo21:00
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Swamihi everyone21:01
* mestery shivers at the cold rain coming down and wishes he was at the beach like markmcclain.21:01
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mesteryI think we can get started now.21:02
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mestery#startmeeting networking21:02
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul 14 21:02:12 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:02
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mestery#link Agenda21:02
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mestery#topic Announcements21:02
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mestery#info SAD (Spec Approval Deadline) is fast approaching21:02
mesteryI've begun deferring items to "K" release already, more will likely come.21:03
mesteryThanks to salv-orlando for his carpet bombing of the specs reviews today with comments. :)21:03
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mestery#info SAD is July 20.21:03
mesteryAny questions on SAD by anyone?21:03
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* markmcclain thinks sad might be the best way to describe proposers negatively affected21:03
mesterymarkmcclain: Heh :)21:04
salv-orlandomestery: meh no carpet bombing. Comments were as accurate as possible. No reports of civilian casualties.21:04
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mesterysalv-orlando: Seriously, I appreciated your reviews, they were almost identical to my and markmcclain's thoughts on specs as well.21:04
mesteryOK, next announcement topic.21:04
mesteryThird Party Meeting CI updates21:05
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mestery#info Went over Neutron 3rd Party CI with issues today, hopefully provided a way forward for those affected21:05
salv-orlandomestery: still on the SAD topic we should quickly define a process for SAD exceptions, if any. People will want to know if exceptions might be granted.21:05
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mesteryMost CI systems are in good shape.21:05
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mesterysalv-orlando: I will take that as an action item.21:06
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mestery#action mestery to define SAD exception process21:06
hemanthravimestery: one convergence is failing due to
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1337698 in neutron "q-dhcp agent fails to start on Ubuntu 12.04" [High,Incomplete]21:06
ijwWould be nice to be clear what makes some specs candidates for deferral before the SAD, too.21:06
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nati_uenohi sorry late21:07
mesteryijw: Mostly it's notalready being a part of the Juno Project Plan:
sc68calI have a bone to pick with one convergence - we've been having to add lots of skips to the one convergence unit tests due to no ipv6 support21:07
mesterynati_ueno: no worries21:07
sc68calperhaps we can discuss in my segment :)21:07
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mesteryhemanthravi: Can you try to attend the third party meeting on Monday's to discuss the issues? Also, the ML and #openstack-infra are filled with helpful people.21:07
* salv-orlando wonder’s what’s the difference between having a bone and having a beef21:07
mesterysc68cal: OK, lets do that.21:07
hemanthravimestery: ok21:07
mesteryhemanthravi: thanks!21:07
mesterysc68cal: thanks to you too.21:07
mesteryOne last announcement:21:08
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mesteryWanted to remind folks the Open vSwitch and Linuxbridge plugins are leaving the tree after Juno-2 is cut next week.21:08
mesteryJust a heads up, more or less, this is not new information.21:08
mesteryAny other announcements from anyone?21:08
nati_uenobye bye two plugins..21:08
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mestery#info Open vSwitch and Linuxbridge plugins will be removed from the tree after Juno-2 releases.21:08
regXboimestery: have the doc folks been told?21:09
* regXboi wonder if doc generation will suddenly break21:09
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mesteryregXboi: I hope not, but we'll soon find out.21:09
sc68calHow good is our grenade testing - we've had issues with the OVS->ML2 migrations due to a bug.....21:09
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mesteryregXboi: And emagana is out for today's meeting as well, we'll have to ask him in-channel later.21:09
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markmcclainsc68cal: grenade is non functional due to the db migration21:10
mesterysc68cal: Once we get the DB stuff merged, grenade testing shoudl be full steam ahead.21:10
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mesterysc68cal: But as markmcclain says, it's not good ATM.21:10
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phil_hdoc team is aware the OVS and linuxbridge is being removed21:10
salv-orlandomestery: uhm about removing plugins.. just not forget to move away the agents first ;)21:10
markmcclainsc68cal: so it masks other problems.. also grenade does no test OVS > ml2 path21:10
salv-orlandowe need the agents for ML221:10
mesterysalv-orlando: ++21:10
ivar-lazzarowhat about plugins depending from OVS and LB?21:11
markmcclainivar-lazzaro: those plugins will break21:11
ivar-lazzaroshould they solve the dependency via bug?21:11
mestery#info The agents for the Open vSwitch and Linuxbridge plugins will be moved to a new, safer home in the source tree.21:11
sc68calmarkmcclain: ah - what can be used to test the ovs > ml2 migration?21:11
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salv-orlandore: grenade and migrations. akamyshnikova has asked to delay until tomorrow morning Moscow time - she has to do some additional checks21:11
markmcclainsc68cal: we can look at implementing another grenade scenario21:11
mesterymarkmcclain: ++21:12
ivar-lazzaromarkmcclain: I thought so, just wondering how much time do they have to fix this, and what's the expected process21:12
sc68calmarkmcclain: oK - i'll contact you later since Comcast is doing that manually, we'd like to help21:12
markmcclainsc68cal: awsome21:12
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marunsc68cal: the reason there wasn't testing is that the migration script doesn't automate configuration migration, since that's a deployment step21:12
sc68caland by manually, meaning we're just stepping on the landmines as we go21:13
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yamamotoare they going to be moved out of plugins directory?21:13
shivharisany idea which specific file will be removed. Since the respective agents will not be removed...21:13
mesteryivar-lazzaro: We've publically indicated the removal of these plugins for a long time now, so hopefully dependent plugins have their plans while underway. :)21:13
* mestery didn't think LB and OVS plugin removal would engender so much discourse.21:14
mesteryOK, lets move on now.21:14
mestery#topic Bugs21:14
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mesteryOur bug czar could not make it, but his report to me included the fact that Ihar's patch has helped with some lock timeout issues.21:15
mesteryThere are some occasional lock timeouts in the gate, but nothing hugely causing problems.21:15
mesteryihrachyshka: Thank you!21:15
ihrachyshkasome? sounds disappointing ;)21:15
mesteryihrachyshka: Without bugs, what would we do? ;)21:15
ajosome hiden deadlock yet..21:15
mesteryAny other bugs the team should be aware of?21:15
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ihrachyshkamestery: if someone shows me remaining locks, I may investigate them separately21:16
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otherwiseguymestery: I added a patch for the ofport 'not yet assigned' being treated as a failure bug:
mesteryihrachyshka: Please sync with enikanorov tomorrow.21:16
mesteryotherwiseguy: saw that one, thanks!21:16
salv-orlandoihrachyshka: enikanorov did that already… search for bug submitted by him.21:16
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mesterysalv-orlando: thanks!21:16
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salv-orlandoenikanorov filed a bunch of bug.21:16
otherwiseguyjust seemed like it could possibly cause some intermittent test failures.21:17
mesteryOK, lets move on then.21:18
mestery#topic Team Discussion Topics21:18
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mesteryFirst one: networks without subnets.21:18
* mestery doesn't see beagles here. :(21:18
* mestery does see ijw here. :(21:18
mesteryijw: Just kidding. :)21:18
otherwiseguymestery: beagles is unfortunately on vacation.21:18
salv-orlandoI have a simple comment here. Either we make them work properly or we disallow them.21:18
ijwCharmed, I'm sure21:18
* otherwiseguy votes for 'make them work'21:19
* salv-orlando definition of properly is left to community consensus.21:19
mesterysalv-orlando: ++21:19
mesteryijw: Work for you?21:19
ijwI don't know what beagles' use case is.  Mine is the standard NFV 'let me send stuff' one, where I'm equally willing to ignore a port address.21:19
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ijwI have opinions about which way we should do that but overriding issue here is 'let me send stuff' and I'll take anything that does that21:20
regXboiwell now, that is .... *embarrassing*21:20
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s3wonglost our chair21:20
salv-orlandoijw: “let me send stuff” pretty much means: give me just a l2 transport and get out of the way?21:20
ijwYeah, basically.21:20
sgordonijw, beagles is basically the same21:20
mesteryMy IRC lcient just crashed21:20
ijwThe presence or absence of subnet is a little bit of a red herring, though it is a bug and it is embarrassing.21:20
regXboimestery: you only missed one line21:21
rkukurais provider network with external DHCP a use case?21:21
thorstour team also has a use case where we need L2 transport only.21:21
sgordonijw, red herring or not, it worked with nova-net21:21
ijwAlso we confuse antispoof and secgroups, but that's a fine grained issue we can discuss offline.21:21
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sgordonijw, and is what initially ticked them off21:21
ijwOK, I hadn't realised that's where beagles was coming from21:21
mesterysgordon: If this is a nova parity item, then I suspect we have to support it.21:21
sgordonijw, i think part of beagles' concern is that the net w/o subnet case may slip by the wayside21:21
mesteryI think it makes sense regardless of that, to be honest.21:21
sgordonijw, as it's a side effect of the current proposals21:21
ijwsgordon: The issue is that users rarely intend to do it ime21:21
sgordonijw, rather than part of the intent21:21
ijwcreate net, create vm, oh look I can talk to *everybody*... once I get an address from somewhere...21:22
ijwBut let's take this up on the ML.  Sorry to go on, but here's probably not the place for detailed discussion.21:23
mesteryijw: ++21:23
* markmcclain adds parity item to track21:23
regXboiI will point out mestery's point21:23
mesteryCan we use Brent's thread for this discussion?21:23
regXboiif this is a parity item....21:23
sgordonmestery, i hope so21:23
* mestery thanks markmcclain for tracking this.21:23
mesterysgordon: Lets continue the discussion there. /cc ijw21:23
sgordonmestery, part of it was just trying to bring together all the competing proposals in this area21:23
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mesterysgordon: There are a lot of them, yes.21:24
* mestery suspects this could be the first user of the SPD/SAD exception process ...21:24
mesteryBut I digress.21:24
mesteryOK, next item is multinode deployment.21:24
mesteryI am not sure who added this item.21:24
emaganamestery: me21:25
mesteryAh, looks like emagana.21:25
mesteryemagana: Hi! :)21:25
emaganasorry, in and out of the meeting21:25
mesteryemagana: No worries, and thanks for highlighting this infra spec here.21:25
emaganamestery: I just want guys to comment on the BP.. is WIP and early work21:25
mesteryI think everyone should review this.21:25
mesteryemagana: ++21:25
carl_baldwincarl_baldwin: will review it.21:25
mesteryThanks emagana!21:26
mestery#topic Nova Parity21:26
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mesterymarkmcclain: Hi!21:26
markmcclainlots of work completed last week21:26
markmcclainhopefully once we can clear anna's hold we can merge the healing migration21:26
mesteryIt was a good week of working on nova parity indeed.21:27
mesterymarkmcclain: ++!!!21:27
markmcclainthis will unblock work on enabling grenade21:27
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markmcclainthe dvr folks made good progress and oleg made progress migration21:27
markmcclainit was great to get everyone in the same room for heads down hacking21:28
mesteryIt was a great experience for sure!21:28
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* mestery notes everyone left before the weather turned in Minnesota as well.21:28
mesteryThanks for the update markmcclain!21:28
mestery#topic Docs21:29
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mesteryregXboi: Hi there!21:29
mesteryregXboi: Are you covering this today?21:29
regXboimestery: yo21:29
regXboiWhile I wasn't in MN, I spent part of the week working up from the bottom on the open doc bugs21:29
regXboiI've added thoughts/comments/status on them to the wiki page21:29
regXboifolks can look and react on the ML21:29
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mesteryregXboi: Thanks!21:30
regXboiI plan on continuing up the page as I have time as well21:30
mesteryI encourage folks to read regXboi's notes in detail in the meeting minutes.21:31
mesteryThanks for the update regXboi!21:31
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mestery#topic Tempest21:31
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mesterymlavalle: Hi!21:31
mlavallemestery: hi21:31
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mlavallemy report today is really a summary of what we acomplished last week during the sprint21:32
mlavallewe trained two new developers, ohara and Simeon21:32
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mlavallewith those two developers we were able to write tests for the new LBaaS:21:33
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mlavalleSimeon developed a FWaaS / VPNaaS scenario test:21:33
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mlavalleI also had conversations to make sure we are covering DVR and keeping track of the extensions to the API for nova parity21:35
mlavallethat's what I have this week21:35
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mesteryThanks mlavalle!21:36
mestery#topic L321:36
mesterycarl_baldwin: hi!21:36
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carl_baldwinLot’s of great work on DVR last week.  Thanks to those who pitched in.21:36
carl_baldwinWe worked out some outstanding issues with the patches.21:36
carl_baldwinWe have a devstack patch that should allow anyone to get a DVR enabled devsatck.21:36
carl_baldwinWe’ve almost got a Jenkins running tests on DVR enabled code for before merge.  Looking in to making that a gate job (non-voting) for after.21:37
carl_baldwinWe’re can’t merge until after db migration.21:38
carl_baldwiner healing.21:38
armaxcarl_baldwin: I explicitely -2 the dvr patches that have db migrations21:38
mesterycarl_baldwin: Yes, hopefully that merges soon!21:38
mesteryarmax: thanks!21:38
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armaxcarl_baldwin: only one is affected by it21:38
armaxcarl_baldwin, mestery: as we need to change the migration_for_plugins variable21:39
carl_baldwinAfter that merges, I think we’re about ready to start merging the first DVR patches.21:39
carl_baldwinarmax: Thanks.21:39
armaxbut we’ve been seeing quite a turnout of reviews, so I am getting confident that the first set of patches should be ready to land21:39
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mesterycarl_baldwin armax: ++21:39
carl_baldwinI’m also starting a list of smaller follow up items to work out during Juno-2 - 3.21:40
carl_baldwinHA routing spec merged.21:40
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mesterycarl_baldwin: There was an issue with port binding which rkukura noted, did you two get a chance to talk with armax about that?21:40
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carl_baldwinmestery: Not yet.  Will soon.21:40
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armaxmestery, carl_baldwin I think there was this patch
carl_baldwinOh, right.21:40
mesteryarmax: That's the one21:40
rkukuramestery, armax: I’ll start with comments in the review, then we can discuss.21:41
mesteryrkukura: Is that one ready to merge before DVR? I think that was the plan, right?21:41
carl_baldwinYes, armax had originally brought that to my attention.21:41
mesteryrkukura: ^^^21:41
armaxmestery: if we want to let that one in first then we need to review one of the dvr patches21:41
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rkukuraI think that one is ready - just updated today with resolutions to latest comments21:41
mesteryarmax: Yes, that was what rkukura was suggesting I thnk.21:41
armaxor viceversa, but it shouldn’t be diffcult21:41
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mesteryarmax: Thoughts?21:41
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armaxmestery: we could let that one in first21:42
carl_baldwinI’ll review that one.  If it is ready then I think we can deal with it.  Otherwise, it has to get behind db healing, dvr, etc.  armax: what do you think?21:42
armaxcarl_baldwin: I’d say db healing first21:42
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mesterycarl_baldwin armax rkukura: OK, lets merge rkukura's before DVR then.21:42
armaxthen between the first set of dvr patches and rkukura’s patch there’s no priority21:43
rkukurathe ml2 port binding patch doesn’t touch any DB models, so it should be able to get in any time21:43
mestery#info Team to try and merge rkukura's patch ( before DVR patch.21:43
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carl_baldwinmestery: rkukura: agreed21:43
rkukuramestery: thanks!21:43
mesterycarl_baldwin: One other thing: The BGP BP was approved today and marked for Juno-3.21:43
armaxthe order is between and
zhhuabjmestery: sound good21:43
carl_baldwinmestery: Great.21:43
mesterycarl_baldwin: Also, the route order BP.21:44
carl_baldwinmestery: Mine?21:44
* mestery looks21:44
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mesteryI think that was Zang's21:44
carl_baldwinOh.  Right.21:44
salv-orlandoI +2’ed router order bp a while ago. I think it is a low impact one?21:44
mesterysalv-orlando: Yes, I think so too.21:45
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carl_baldwinGreat.  Should be low impact.21:45
mesterycarl_baldwin: Lots happening on L3!21:45
carl_baldwinYes, there is.21:45
mesterycarl_baldwin: Thanks for driving this stuff and leading it!21:45
carl_baldwinGlad to help.  That is all I have.21:46
carl_baldwinOne more:
carl_baldwin^ That merged and the code is ready.21:46
carl_baldwinThat is really all I have.21:46
mesterycarl_baldwin: Excellent!21:46
mesterythanks carl_baldwin!21:46
mestery#topic IPv621:46
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mesterysc68cal: Hi!21:46
sc68calMost work is currently relying on the radvd patch to land, which needs unit test coverage (
mesterysc68cal: ++ to that.21:47
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sc68calThe other thing I wanted to bring up, is at some point in the future we're going to need to look at 3rd party CI systems and plugins that don't support IPV621:48
mesterysc68cal: Is that something we need to do in Juno, or can we do it in K?21:48
markmcclainsc68cal: I think that v6 support should be a must in K21:48
mesterymarkmcclain: ++21:48
sc68calI believe the radvd patch will add another unit test that will need to be skipped in one convergence, since they fail on creating a v6 subnet21:48
mesteryI think deferring to K is the right thing.21:48
sc68calagree on K deferral, but something to keep in mind, obviously we need to get our house in order first, but it should be shortly21:49
* markmcclain wishes we had declared v6 required for J21:49
mesterymarkmcclain: ++21:49
sc68calI'll be glad to stand up declare it during the summit :)21:49
mesterysc68cal: :P21:49
sc68calthat's all for me21:49
ijw_I think you'd have to define what 'ipv6' was before you could do that - we still keep finding the odd shortcoming21:49
marunsounds like something that could benefit from functional coverage, too21:50
sc68calI think we can at least say, you need to allow the creation of an ipv6 subnet21:50
sc68calit may not work, but hey you'll have parity with where we were in Havana and Icehouse21:50
sc68calwhere it is created then doesn't work ;)21:50
mesterymarun: ++21:50
mesteryOK, thanks sc68cal!21:50
mestery#info IPV6 support will be required for all plugins in K release.21:51
mestery#topic ML221:51
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mesteryrkukura Sukhdev: Hi!21:51
Sukhdevmestery: Hi21:51
rkukurago ahead Sukhdev21:51
SukhdevWe cancelled the ML2 meeting this week21:51
SukhdevBoth rkukura and I were in MN21:51
rkukuralast week, not this ;)21:51
SukhdevOpps - yes :-)21:51
SukhdevI see few ML2 specs merged this week - thanks to the cores21:52
SukhdevJust as an Info -21:52
Sukhdev is the wiki for what we did in MN21:52
SukhdevFor the benefit of wider audiance, we had live migration of the VMs from Nova network to Neutron21:53
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Sukhdevwith a 1 sec or outage21:53
SukhdevThanks to Oleg and Mohammand for their support21:53
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ijw_Sukhdev: sexy21:53
Sukhdevmestery: that is all I have21:54
Sukhdevrkukura: want to add anything21:54
mesterySukhdev: Thanks!21:54
mestery#topic Open Discussion21:54
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rkukuranope - we will be meeting this week21:54
Sukhdevijw_: yes, indeed21:54
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nlahoutia question regarding reviewing code for approved BPs targeted for juno-2. Does it mean all the review should be done by 7/24?21:55
markmcclainfor those that missed it… the K name poll is still available21:55
mesterymarkmcclain: link?21:55
mesterynlahouti: 7/24 is when Juno-2 will be cut.21:55
ijw_NFV: we still have an unapproved but high impact VLAN transparent network spec, and I would - if remotely possible - like to get an MTU spec approved.21:55
mesteryijw_: Is the MTU spec filed already?21:55
mesterythanks markmcclain!21:56
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ijw_Even if only the first patches of it get in I'd like to make a try21:56
mesteryijw_: I mean, a spec in neutron specs. :)21:56
* marun fires up a botnet to win the unsecured naming poll 21:57
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mesteryOK, thanks everyone!21:57
mesteryJust a note, I'll be pruning some things out of Juno-2 tonight/tomorrow as well.21:58
salv-orlandomarun that’s the sequence of words that over irc will be detected by another botnet which will bring the police to your door21:58
mesteryWe have a lot left to land and not much time.21:58
mesteryJust a heads up if your BP moves to the right a bit.21:58
marunsalv-orlando: i mean, what's not to like about kleber?21:58
ijw_I'm fairly sure you can always find surprising corner cases with MTUs until we do something to fix it properly, and I notice that in small print in the Redhat docs is something saying 'set your guest MTUs to 1400' - which is (a) a copout and (b) also not going to work in certain cases anyway21:58
salv-orlandoI remember a brazilian footballer by that name21:58
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mesterySee you all on the ML and IRC's. :)21:59
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